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2014 Mazda 3 part 3

  • 08 May 2014 - 10:19 AM
    Pinobii
    Going to view too
  • 08 May 2014 - 03:11 PM
    Notsogoodman


    bro, those are not problem, those are wear and tear.. [laugh]


    See my pt ;)
  • 08 May 2014 - 04:06 PM
    Notsogoodman

    On a more serious note, it makes more sense to talk about mileage than age.....

    Like one of the bros pointed out, a lot of things are wear and tear... problems are those things that happen out of the blue, breakdowns that the experts can't solve.... problems are the same thing that could keep coming back.... Here are some of my own examples

    1. Mazda 3 - 105k km mileage when I sold it after 3.5yrs,

    "problems encountered" - had a leaking left front shock absorber and a warped flywheel just before the 100k km mark, a leaking head light cover...

    Problem? maybe, but there's a reason......

    Mazda is a good handler and I tend to corner real hard (so maybe my left front kaput).....

    Flywheel I changed to a aftermarket lightweight type (prob y it didn't last)

    Leaking head light cover (I modded it with angle eye and the first installer left a slab of silicone in there, and i got a 2nd guy to reopen and clean it up.... so prob 2nd guy didn't seal it back properly)

    At the end of the day, I don't really think these are problems, more like karma

    2. French MPV - 20k mileage when I sold it after 1 yr...

    problems encountered - folding seat mechanism that couldn't work, LCD screen that turned patchy, gearbox that keep getting stuck, turbocharger that failed once

    1st 20k mileage of ownership and I definitely think these are problems

    Fold seat mechanism - couldn't work the day i collected my car, they blame it on the leather seat installer

    LCD screen that turned patchy - no explanation give, except they told me I am not alone

    Gearbox that keep getting stuck - there were quite a few cases, but I think mine was the most frequent (i had multiple visits, once every 3-4 weeks and they couldn't solve it)..... eventually they solve it by writing to France for help.... not giving us much confidence abt the AD right....

    Turbocharger that failed - the mechanic did not bolt back properly......

    Some are genuine problems, some are human errors... but we are talking about a brand new car right out of factory(0-20k km mileage) and covered by warranty, i suppose we wouldn't expect all these isn't it?

    3. Mazda 6 - 160k km and still going strong....

    "problems encountered" - car vibrating when stationary, aircon not cold, funny noises when going over hump, wheel not straight when steering dead centre, folding mirror that is a bit erratic,

    vibration - engine mounting gone.... changed twice (2nd time 1 piece kaput, 1st time i dunno how many pieces have problem)... at 160k km mileage.... expected isn't it?

    aircon - there was a leaking pipe that happened at 150k km.... not surprising

    funny noises - upper/lower control arms gone... mileage and read that quite a few Mazdas have lower control arms that don't last (could be how drivers "drive their Mazdas")

    wheel not straight - alignment issues due to uneven wear of tyres (more tyre issues than car issues isn't it)

    folding mirror - this is one thing that i didn't bother to get it diagnose, just that the autofolding cannot work all the time.... it could also be due to the work of the ex-owner who put in a powerful ICE and had added in multiple cables�

    Problems? I don't think so, given that some of the issues like pipe leaking, (rubber hardened, I didn't write about that) surfaced nearer to the 150k km.... i think i am already very lucky...

    My apology for being so long winded.... what i want to say it's the mileage that is more important than the age, and how the owner(s) take care of the car (btw, I service every 10k km using AD recommended checklist)... when there are issues, take a step back to see if those are genuine problems are fall under wear and tear (and if these are premature).....

    Just my 1.99 cents worth....


  • 08 May 2014 - 04:47 PM
    nazerath

    thanks for sharing. waiting for the latest price of the mazda 3. Anyone test the mazda 5?


  • 08 May 2014 - 04:57 PM
    Ezfaun

    Wah. Wall of text. But what you said is true. That's why I like jap brands as compared to french brands. The frenches interior design is always ugly and cheap, it's almost as if they don't give a shit about their consumer base. It's always concrete gray plastic I swear to god. Whereas the japs are taking the german approach while still maintaining reliability standards.


  • 08 May 2014 - 05:30 PM
    zhehao

    I went down to Mazda showroom to take a look at the Mazda 3.

    From the outside it looks really good. But somehow i feel that the metal sheet used in the construction of the body is a bit "cheap".

    For example when closing the door, a hollow sound is heard instead of a low thump.

    And the boot when closed shakes quite badly.

    Didn't test drive it as they were closing already that day.

    Just my 2cents. :)


  • 08 May 2014 - 06:17 PM
    Spring

    I went down to Mazda showroom to take a look at the Mazda 3.
    From the outside it looks really good. But somehow i feel that the metal sheet used in the construction of the body is a bit "cheap".
    For example when closing the door, a hollow sound is heard instead of a low thump.
    And the boot when closed shakes quite badly.

    Didn't test drive it as they were closing already that day.
    Just my 2cents. :)


    So bad meh?

    I can't comment on this model cos I've not been to the showroom.
    That said I drove a Mazda 3 SP from 2006 to 2010, I do have my complaints
    of the car like its abit noisy, poor fuel consumption and slow pick up but I never felt the car to be hollow/shaky. Of course have to compare with fellow Jap cars and not Conti cars.

    That said maybe this model is like that? Other MCFers who have tried the car can comment??
  • 08 May 2014 - 06:28 PM
    zhehao



    So bad meh?

    I can't comment on this model cos I've not been to the showroom.
    That said I drove a Mazda 3 SP from 2006 to 2010, I do have my complaints
    of the car like its abit noisy, poor fuel consumption and slow pick up but I never felt the car to be hollow/shaky. Of course have to compare with fellow Jap cars and not Conti cars.

    That said maybe this model is like that? Other MCFers who have tried the car can comment??

    Yup comparing to the altis. The interior quality is not bad lah. It's just the door very thin and light in my opinion compared to say an altis.

    Maybe that's why the reviewers are saying road noise is there in the mazda 3


    Edited by zhehao, 08 May 2014 - 06:29 PM.

  • 08 May 2014 - 06:41 PM
    Spring

    Yup comparing to the altis. The interior quality is not bad lah. It's just the door very thin and light in my opinion compared to say an altis.
    Maybe that's why the reviewers are saying road noise is there in the mazda 3


    My comment on Mazda 3 albeit the SP model is that Mazda engines are not refined unlike Honda (I'm driving a Civic now), Toyota and that's why the road noise is so intrusive. Last time when my wife started the car at the basement car park and I was walking down, I already knew it was her!!
    But handling of a Mazda is top notch, better than almost all Jap cars I've driven including my Civic. The car strikes me to be heavy (which partially explains the good handling) so thats why I surprise at your comments.
  • 08 May 2014 - 07:42 PM
    Wyvern
    Yah, that's true.. My current ride is a M3 SP from 2008. And the moment I start my engine, it's very unique, to me, it's like a sharp cranking sound compare to other Jap cars.. :)

    Nevertheless, still loved this ride faithfully... :)
  • 09 May 2014 - 11:39 AM
    Kieran1975

    No point asking here, just drop by the showroom and you will have all the numbers.... And can even share it here...

    Unless there is an Mazda agent here, willing to share. ... Hehehe...

    Mazda 3 selling now at $99,988...... [thumbsup]


  • 09 May 2014 - 12:08 PM
    Blackyv


    Mazda 3 selling now at $99,988...... [thumbsup]


    Base model or luxury model?....
  • 09 May 2014 - 12:18 PM
    Kangadrool

    definitely it's base model, sedan version.

    Base model or luxury model?....


  • 09 May 2014 - 12:18 PM
    Roh96

    Mazda 3 selling now at $99,988...... [thumbsup]

    It finally comes below $100K mark. [thumbsup]


  • 09 May 2014 - 12:38 PM
    Jckok888

    I went down to Mazda showroom to take a look at the Mazda 3.

    From the outside it looks really good. But somehow i feel that the metal sheet used in the construction of the body is a bit "cheap".

    For example when closing the door, a hollow sound is heard instead of a low thump.

    And the boot when closed shakes quite badly.

    Didn't test drive it as they were closing already that day.

    Just my 2cents. :)

    Agreed. The new Mazda 3 look much better than other same range Japanese car included interior.�

    However, the body build quality seem like very cheap doesn't look solid at all


  • 09 May 2014 - 01:32 PM
    Notsogoodman

    I went down to Mazda showroom to take a look at the Mazda 3.
    From the outside it looks really good. But somehow i feel that the metal sheet used in the construction of the body is a bit "cheap".
    For example when closing the door, a hollow sound is heard instead of a low thump.
    And the boot when closed shakes quite badly.

    Didn't test drive it as they were closing already that day.
    Just my 2cents. :)


    If you want the doors closing to sound better, there is a $10'solution... U can DIY
  • 09 May 2014 - 04:48 PM
    Blackyv

    btw, owner of mz3 here... what is your omv?..�


  • 09 May 2014 - 06:09 PM
    fulltime68
    Deluxe model is 105,988.. 6 bids non guaranteed coe, rebate at 50k..
    Top up 3k for 6bids guaranteed coe and rebate 53k..
  • 09 May 2014 - 06:13 PM
    Blackyv

    Deluxe model is 105,988.. 6 bids non guaranteed coe, rebate at 50k..
    Top up 3k for 6bids guaranteed coe and rebate 53k..

    you see... before the last bidding, their offer was:

    120k, 6bids non guaranteed, rebate at 60K... then coe fall to 60K...

    so, can i expect next round of coe drop to 50K?.... [sly]


  • 09 May 2014 - 06:19 PM
    Spring

    Deluxe model is 105,988.. 6 bids non guaranteed coe, rebate at 50k..
    Top up 3k for 6bids guaranteed coe and rebate 53k..


    Any idea if they give good price for trade-in?

    Some ADs, attract via better trade-in price but then again Mazda quoting a good price for their Mz3. In fact by my calculation at OMV18K/19k and COE60k,
    CEV -10k they make few k at most.
  • 09 May 2014 - 06:31 PM
    Blackyv



    Any idea if they give good price for trade-in?

    Some ADs, attract via better trade-in price but then again Mazda quoting a good price for their Mz3. In fact by my calculation at OMV18K/19k and COE60k,
    CEV -10k they make few k at most.

    now you are getting nearer in understanding their strategy..... so, how do you think they could increase profit from??... they expect coe to drop lar.... you think they will bid 60K meh..... they will not bid at their COE rebate amount........ if they bid 50K and get it, profit another 10K .. simple maths...

    like last round... they cost their car price base on %71,335 but coe drop to 60K.., so, their profit increase by $11,335... simple?.... [:p]


  • 09 May 2014 - 08:33 PM
    fulltime68
    Can any Mazda owners share with us the freebies u got? like free maintenance? Not sure if i saw wrongly but there seems to be no solar flim provided.
  • 09 May 2014 - 08:40 PM
    Maroon5

    act very cheap alr....


  • 10 May 2014 - 09:42 AM
    Matrix0405

    Mazda 3 selling now at $99,988...... [thumbsup]

    $99,999, cheaper than K-car. Korean running out of gas soon.�


  • 10 May 2014 - 10:11 AM
    Blackyv



    $99,999, cheaper than K-car. Korean running out of gas soon.�


    Yalor, I wait and see how long k3 can hold on and the greedy elantra with low OMV also selling at that level...
  • 10 May 2014 - 10:29 AM
    Kieran1975

    Yalor, I wait and see how long k3 can hold on and the greedy elantra with low OMV also selling at that level...


    Tot you oredi set your mind for Mz3?

    You very ?? leh....
  • 10 May 2014 - 11:02 AM
    Blackyv

    Tot you oredi set your mind for Mz3?

    You very ?? leh....


    I'm a practical man with not much money... What I want might not be what I buy,... Buy with head or heart kind of thing..

    Mz3 has cramp rear means my wife and kid has lesser room. No rear air con means they will feel very hot and stuffy on a sunny day like my current car,,,.although my wife don't bother what car I buy since she is a car idiot, my decision is for the family, not for me alone although I'm the only one driving the car...

    If k3 selling price is 'low' enough and has wide gap from mz3, I might bite it the saving could go into compensating the higher fc but my family gets to enjoy the ride.. If same price, mz3 with a better fc and engaging drive would win me over.. I have to consider running cost as well., my usage is high, right leg is heavy... So, 10kml vs 14kml makes hell lots of different..,
  • 10 May 2014 - 11:14 AM
    Kieran1975

    I'm a practical man with not much money... What I want might not be what I buy,... Buy with head or heart kind of thing..

    Mz3 has cramp rear means my wife and kid has lesser room. No rear air con means they will feel very hot and stuffy on a sunny day like my current car,,,.although my wife don't bother what car I buy since she is a car idiot, my decision is for the family, not for me alone although I'm the only one driving the car...

    If k3 selling price is 'low' enough and has wide gap from mz3, I might bite it the saving could go into compensating the higher fc but my family gets to enjoy the ride.. If same price, mz3 with a better fc and engaging drive would win me over.. I have to consider running cost as well., my usage is high, right leg is heavy... So, 10kml vs 14kml makes hell lots of different..,


    K3 now 95K...
  • 10 May 2014 - 11:19 AM
    Twich

    K3 now 95K...

    I still trust Japanese car.
  • 10 May 2014 - 11:25 AM
    Blackyv

    K3 now 95K...


    Still too high..hehehe..

    I still trust Japanese car.


    Then altis is for you... Realible... Hehehe
  • 10 May 2014 - 11:49 AM
    Twich
    [quote name="Blackyv" post="5163490" timestamp="1399692355"]

    Still too high..hehehe..

    Then altis is for you... Realible... Hehehe[/quote
    Yes! I am not buying a handphone.
  • 10 May 2014 - 12:27 PM
    Xers007

    I'm a practical man with not much money... What I want might not be what I buy,... Buy with head or heart kind of thing..

    Mz3 has cramp rear means my wife and kid has lesser room. No rear air con means they will feel very hot and stuffy on a sunny day like my current car,,,.although my wife don't bother what car I buy since she is a car idiot, my decision is for the family, not for me alone although I'm the only one driving the car...

    If k3 selling price is 'low' enough and has wide gap from mz3, I might bite it the saving could go into compensating the higher fc but my family gets to enjoy the ride.. If same price, mz3 with a better fc and engaging drive would win me over.. I have to consider running cost as well., my usage is high, right leg is heavy... So, 10kml vs 14kml makes hell lots of different..,

    Me as one too not much money but with heavy leg... my wife is also a car idiot but what she request for the next car is to have rear air con lol... but mz3 is rather new so fast got ppl report about the FC on local roads liao meh...


  • 10 May 2014 - 01:36 PM
    Camrysfa

    K3 now 95K...

    today vovo advert �.... a few Cat A turbo diesels �... from 119K


  • 10 May 2014 - 02:18 PM
    Twich


    today vovo advert �.... a few Cat A turbo diesels �... from 119K

    Good luck to the buyers. Join the heavy vehicles in the petrol stations.
  • 10 May 2014 - 02:25 PM
    Blackyv

    Good luck to the buyers. Join the heavy vehicles in the petrol stations.


    Errr you mean the petrol kiosk you go serve those 3 tonner as well?... Hehe...
  • 10 May 2014 - 02:51 PM
    Twich

    Errr you mean the petrol kiosk you go serve those 3 tonner as well?... Hehe...

    There are a few gas station in Jurong.
  • 10 May 2014 - 03:42 PM
    fulltime68
    Anyone went down to mazda show room today? Was it crowded?
  • 10 May 2014 - 04:15 PM
    Blackyv

    There are a few gas station in Jurong.


    Ohh. Didn't know that... Never pump petrol there before.. Hehe
    te name="fulltime68" post="5163659" timestamp="1399707757"]

    Anyone went down to mazda show room today? Was it crowded?[/quote]

    Last weekend also people says VW showroom like fish market but coe result drop a lot..,.. Funny hor... Hehe
  • 10 May 2014 - 06:39 PM
    Achee

    Last weekend also people says VW showroom like fish market but coe result drop a lot..,.. Funny hor... Hehe

    A sign of�supply�is trying to catch up with�demand?? [confused]��


    Edited by Achee, 10 May 2014 - 06:41 PM.

  • 10 May 2014 - 09:21 PM
    Twich
    [quote name="Blackyv" post="5163672" timestamp="1399709725"]

    Ohh. Didn't know that... Never pump petrol there before.. Hehe
    te name="fulltime68" post="5163659" timestamp="1399707757"]

    Anyone went down to mazda show room today? Was it crowded?[/quote]

    Last weekend also people says VW showroom like fish market but coe result drop a lot..,.. Funny hor... Hehe[/quote]
    Sorry! Not me. I do not have so many days of annual leave.
  • 10 May 2014 - 10:18 PM
    Yuan

    act very cheap alr....

    So you considering? [sly]:D


  • 12 May 2014 - 04:59 PM
    Spring
    Anyone went down last weekend?
    Showroom crowded?
    Any special offers on top of what was published?
  • 12 May 2014 - 10:47 PM
    fulltime68

    Anyone went down last weekend?
    Showroom crowded?
    Any special offers on top of what was published?

    yes, mazda showroom at Ubi was extremely crowded.

    No special offer on top of the advertised price, except that they give you 1k discount if your existing car is a Mazda...


  • 12 May 2014 - 11:18 PM
    car138


    yes, mazda showroom at Ubi was extremely crowded.
    No special offer on top of the advertised price, except that they give you 1k discount if your existing car is a Mazda...


    Actually Kah Motor also give extra $1K discount if u trade-in your existing Honda car.
  • 12 May 2014 - 11:27 PM
    Emils

    Actually Kah Motor also give extra $1K discount if u trade-in your existing Honda car.

    Meaning if you don't have a Honda/Mazda car for trade-in, you can still minimally get a $1k discount if you push the SE hard enough...?


  • 12 May 2014 - 11:57 PM
    Maroon5

    So you considering? [sly]� :D

    haha no la...if getting mazda i thk wil go for the 6 or cx5...tats sexy. [cool]

    but mainly im of the feeling tat coe wil come down abit more.. :D


  • 13 May 2014 - 02:39 AM
    Lianchi

    from my point of view, Mazda car better than Toyota


  • 13 May 2014 - 10:25 AM
    Erictay_82

    from my point of view, Mazda car better than Toyota


    Agreed. Mazda handling is gd. But recently saw a lot of new altis on road.
  • 13 May 2014 - 11:04 AM
    M3oso

    Being driving Mazda3 SP for 7.5 years, never regret owning it. So far only had a O2 sensor went�faulty on year 7. Mileage 160KKM now, engine mount still fine.

    New�Mazda is on my list when come to yr 10. ^_^��


    Edited by M3oso, 13 May 2014 - 11:06 AM.

  • 13 May 2014 - 06:10 PM
    Adrian_wee
    Anyone already driving the new 3? Can share if the 1.5l delivers enough power? It's almost none existence in getting review for the 1.5l version in other countries as most sell minimally the 2l model. But it seems there are 2l models that pulls only 120ps which is on par with that our Mazda specs for 1.5l.
  • 13 May 2014 - 06:21 PM
    Kangadrool

    carbuyer uk don't recommend the 1.5 petrol, but added that it's fine around town. If you are sure that you'll never drive out of Singapore, can consider.�

    Anyone already driving the new 3? Can share if the 1.5l delivers enough power? It's almost none existence in getting review for the 1.5l version in other countries as most sell minimally the 2l model. But it seems there are 2l models that pulls only 120ps which is on par with that our Mazda specs for 1.5l.


    Edited by Kangadrool, 13 May 2014 - 06:21 PM.

  • 13 May 2014 - 06:28 PM
    Blackyv

    carbuyer uk don't recommend the 1.5 petrol, but added that it's fine around town. If you are sure that you'll never drive out of Singapore, can consider.�


    Cannot refer to overseas market... Due to the stupid system we have,ll... the whole world won't recommend 1.5 lar but we only have one choice... Even up north MY also don't recommend it but do we have a choice?...
  • 13 May 2014 - 06:36 PM
    Kangadrool

    My Choice is Mazda 6 Tourer 2.5L. :D

    Cannot refer to overseas market... Due to the stupid system we have,ll... the whole world won't recommend 1.5 lar but we only have one choice... Even up north MY also don't recommend it but do we have a choice?...


  • 13 May 2014 - 07:20 PM
    Blackyv

    My Choice is Mazda 6 Tourer 2.5L. :D


    Gretna choice but that would be in my dream... My financial status would never allow me to buy that... Not in my lifetime unless I strike toto... Hehehe...
  • 13 May 2014 - 07:46 PM
    Columbian78
    If you look at the engine bay of the 1.5l mazda 3, there is a huge empty space to the north of the engine block. It looks very weird. I think maybe it is to cater for the 2l and 2.5l engines in US which are bigger in physical size.
  • 13 May 2014 - 07:47 PM
    Kangadrool

    got great mod potential.� [laugh]

    If you look at the engine bay of the 1.5l mazda 3, there is a huge empty space to the north of the engine block. It looks very weird. I think maybe it is to cater for the 2l and 2.5l engines in US which are bigger in physical size.


  • 13 May 2014 - 08:38 PM
    ER-3682

    If you look at the engine bay of the 1.5l mazda 3, there is a huge empty space to the north of the engine block. It looks very weird. I think maybe it is to cater for the 2l and 2.5l engines in US which are bigger in physical size.

    Maybe for Mazda 3 MPS. [thumbsup][thumbsup]


  • 13 May 2014 - 10:35 PM
    Divers

    Agreed. Mazda handling is gd. But recently saw a lot of new altis on road.

    Yes, I saw a lot on the road too.

    Mazda 3 really sleek IMO. Very nicely style.

    Altis price is a on the high side but yet still see�a lot on the road.

    If�Mazda 3 is priced the same as Altis as the current COE. I will still go for Mazda.


  • 13 May 2014 - 11:06 PM
    13177

    Agreed. Mazda handling is gd. But recently saw a lot of new altis on road.

    No need to compare, cause no matter which gen altis confirmed will draws many people to buy, cause it is a toyota.
  • 14 May 2014 - 06:46 AM
    Blackyv

    No need to compare, cause no matter which gen altis confirmed will draws many people to buy, cause it is a toyota.


    Yup, Toyota is a workhorse.. It just works everytime you cranks, unless you forgot to switch off your headlight which causes battery flat.. Hehe .....
  • 14 May 2014 - 07:29 AM
    Adrian_wee
    Agreed, wish we have the 2l version. With high compression engine, I hope the 1.5l makes a diff...Still hoping to hear from a new owner of the 3. ;)
  • 14 May 2014 - 01:03 PM
    _h_r_

    Price has increased for deluxe�Mazda 3�from $105,988 to�$106,988

    Top up for guaranteed COE increased from $3k�to $4k�with rebate at $54k����������

    Toyota has also increased prices


    Edited by _h_r_, 14 May 2014 - 01:04 PM.

  • 14 May 2014 - 02:25 PM
    Ncleon

    Price has increased for deluxe�Mazda 3�from $105,988 to�$106,988

    Top up for guaranteed COE increased from $3k�to $4k�with rebate at $54k����������

    Toyota has also increased prices

    Thanks your information.

    Haha, actually I also almost sign the dotted line.

    But after read through those the comment in mcf forum, I also decided to wait and see.

    The reason is quite simple, More Coe = More sales to AD = more possible for AD to lower theirs profit.

    Even the COE price hold at 60k+- level, I might able to get the cheaper price in future.

    Additional consideration is try to avoid to get first few batch of new model, cos some quality issue will only found while start using in market. Give them some time to fixed it, and get the stable version later.�

    So I keeping tell myself, relax , relax, patient patient :D


  • 14 May 2014 - 02:26 PM
    Blackyv

    very good strategy to hook kiasi, kiabo, kancheong spider... playing psychological game.. [:p]

    i'm quite sure many will chiong this weekend... [sweatdrop]

    but one thing potential chionger should take note... the bidding is NOT 1 time guarantee... so, whatever result next round has nothing to do with you... even go up to 70K also it's for buyer before you......... it's 6 bidding system (for most cases) and they wont bid for you just yet because don't forget buyer purchased at $78602, $77400, $71333 level coe still waiting for their coe...... and what you buy today, you have to forecast what to get in 1.5-2mths down the road... not next round.. [grin]


  • 14 May 2014 - 02:51 PM
    Spring

    Thanks your information.
    Haha, actually I also almost sign the dotted line.

    But after read through those the comment in mcf forum, I also decided to wait and see.
    The reason is quite simple, More Coe = More sales to AD = more possible for AD to lower theirs profit.
    Even the COE price hold at 60k+- level, I might able to get the cheaper price in future.

    Additional consideration is try to avoid to get first few batch of new model, cos some quality issue will only found while start using in market. Give them some time to fixed it, and get the stable version later.�

    So I keeping tell myself, relax , relax, patient patient :D


    For your sake, I hope you are right!

    Personally, whilst I agree on the first few batch thingy, don't quite agree on the More COE=More sales=More possible to lower profit.
    In theory, I suppose it's possible but in practice except for some newer ADs, I doubt if the established ones like BM, CNC, PML will adopt this strategy. They may be under pressure from their shareholders to grow revenue in view of more COEs. My take is the non-listed ones like Komoco, Kah and Mazda may be more likely to do it but it's not across the board.

    That said, I've always got prediction of COE wrong, so likely will be wrong again haha!!!�
  • 14 May 2014 - 03:06 PM
    _h_r_

    The increase in COE supply lags behind the increase in demand because new car buyers normally purchase new cars before they scrap/export their car�if they can afford the down payment. The COE quota increases only when the cars are scrapped/exported.�If many people who own cars that are registered between 2014 and 2019 bring forward their purchases, COE will skyrocket.��


    Edited by _h_r_, 14 May 2014 - 03:07 PM.

  • 14 May 2014 - 05:00 PM
    Twich

    The increase in COE supply lags behind the increase in demand because new car buyers normally purchase new cars before they scrap/export their car�if they can afford the down payment. The COE quota increases only when the cars are scrapped/exported.�If many people who own cars that are registered between 2014 and 2019 bring forward their purchases, COE will skyrocket.��

    There is a 50% down payment and a 5 years instalment period. More or less it will cap the increase.
    I heard there is a possibility of bring forward some COE.

    Price has increased for deluxe�Mazda 3�from $105,988 to�$106,988

    Top up for guaranteed COE increased from $3k�to $4k�with rebate at $54k����������

    Toyota has also increased prices

    Don't have to rush. Without car, there are buses and MRT.
  • 14 May 2014 - 07:28 PM
    fulltime68

    Price has increased for deluxe�Mazda 3�from $105,988 to�$106,988

    Top up for guaranteed COE increased from $3k�to $4k�with rebate at $54k����������

    Toyota has also increased prices


    just chk Mazda website, deluxe model is selling at 108,988, coe rebate at 50k. the price increased by 3k..
  • 14 May 2014 - 07:29 PM
    Notsogoodman

    The increase in COE supply lags behind the increase in demand because new car buyers normally purchase new cars before they scrap/export their car�if they can afford the down payment. The COE quota increases only when the cars are scrapped/exported.�If many people who own cars that are registered between 2014 and 2019 bring forward their purchases, COE will skyrocket.��

    If they bring forward their purchase and deregister their old car, it also mean that the future quota will increase ahead of schedule


  • 14 May 2014 - 08:09 PM
    Monster72
    Hi everyone, I am a newbie here. Just signed on the dotted line yesterday for Mazda 3. Look like I am the kan chiong spider (a bit regret now). Rush into it because my car expired in Jan 2015.
  • 14 May 2014 - 08:20 PM
    fulltime68

    Hi everyone, I am a newbie here. Just signed on the dotted line yesterday for Mazda 3. Look like I am the kan chiong spider (a bit regret now). Rush into it because my car expired in Jan 2015.


    y regret? u bought at a price u can afford.. Look.ahead and enjoy your new ride.. moreover u bought just b4 they raised the price.. :)
  • 14 May 2014 - 08:28 PM
    Spring

    Hi everyone, I am a newbie here. Just signed on the dotted line yesterday for Mazda 3. Look like I am the kan chiong spider (a bit regret now). Rush into it because my car expired in Jan 2015.


    U paid the weekend price or the latest price? Any freebies? What price they take in your car?
    I don't think it's considered kan cheong spider. Some bros here feel COE can go down further whilst some like me feel it's a fair price esp if u can afford it n also no harm to try. Only advise I can give is don't chase the COE ie if u can't get it after 6 bids then just get the refund n live to fight another day.. Years back I fell into that trap n paid 3k more cos heart set on the car but in the end I could hv got it for my original price if I had stayed calm. Good luck!
  • 14 May 2014 - 08:33 PM
    Monster72
    Thanks. Hopefully is not an impulsive decision made.
    Bought at 99k for the standard, top up 4k for the guarantee 6 bids, only freebie was the solar firm, they take in my Altis at about 10k.
  • 14 May 2014 - 08:45 PM
    Eaton

    Hi everyone, I am a newbie here. Just signed on the dotted line yesterday for Mazda 3. Look like I am the kan chiong spider (a bit regret now). Rush into it because my car expired in Jan 2015.

    buying car in sg really headache. If I buy a car with Coe of 60k and 3 month later crisis come. I might have over paid a lot. We are not elite and cannot afford easily. I am still waiting for below 30k coe. Still driving my 07 accord

    Edited by Eaton, 14 May 2014 - 08:46 PM.

  • 14 May 2014 - 08:53 PM
    Monster72
    Heard from my colleague whose wife working in LTA, COE might drop to 30k level next year, also some people said that it will definitely drop before the 2016 GE. Accord is a good car and moreover can drive till 2017, still have chance to wait for the drop, unlike me can't wait till then.
  • 14 May 2014 - 09:09 PM
    Dafansu

    Thanks. Hopefully is not an impulsive decision made.
    Bought at 99k for the standard, top up 4k for the guarantee 6 bids, only freebie was the solar firm, they take in my Altis at about 10k.

    if i'm not wrong if you drive till next year you should be able to get slightly more than 10k back for your altis?


  • 14 May 2014 - 09:14 PM
    Kangadrool

    people need to earn mah, at least 10K.

    if i'm not wrong if you drive till next year you should be able to get slightly more than 10k back for your altis?


  • 14 May 2014 - 09:17 PM
    Eaton

    Heard from my colleague whose wife working in LTA, COE might drop to 30k level next year, also some people said that it will definitely drop before the 2016 GE. Accord is a good car and moreover can drive till 2017, still have chance to wait for the drop, unlike me can't wait till then.

    hope Coe will drop. I think government going to lose a lot of votes. They don't really understand what is going on. The grassroots only feedback good thing. Yesterday I brought my children to the swimming pool and I thought I am at India .
  • 14 May 2014 - 10:49 PM
    Ncleon

    Hi everyone, I am a newbie here. Just signed on the dotted line yesterday for Mazda 3. Look like I am the kan chiong spider (a bit regret now). Rush into it because my car expired in Jan 2015.


    Actually I more kan chiong than you, I did sign the non guarantee bid at January this yr, but too bad unable to get it after 6 bids at end of April (or consider lucky else I am the one who got the car exp few k than who buy weeks after). So as what spring suggested, take non guarantee bid will be better, but provided you are not required the new car urgently.

    Anyway mazda 3 is very nice car and very nice price now compare to other same category car, it definitely a good buy.no need be regret.

    After got the car, just shut your eye and ear down on coe news, and happily drive it away. :)
  • 15 May 2014 - 12:28 AM
    fulltime68

    Actually I more kan chiong than you, I did sign the non guarantee bid at January this yr, but too bad unable to get it after 6 bids at end of April (or consider lucky else I am the one who got the car exp few k than who buy weeks after). So as what spring suggested, take non guarantee bid will be better, but provided you are not required the new car urgently.

    Anyway mazda 3 is very nice car and very nice price now compare to other same category car, it definitely a good buy.no need be regret.

    After got the car, just shut your eye and ear down on coe news, and happily drive it away. :)


    at the end of the 6th bid, did Mazda ask u to top up? how much was the coe rebate when u signed in Jan?
  • 15 May 2014 - 12:42 AM
    Ncleon

    at the end of the 6th bid, did Mazda ask u to top up? how much was the coe rebate when u signed in Jan?


    That time mazda 3 is not out yet. I sign kimchi car, rebate at 65k.after 6 bids asking me top up, but I reject and doing refund.

    Edited by Ncleon, 15 May 2014 - 12:44 AM.

  • 15 May 2014 - 07:47 AM
    Kar_lover

    Hi everyone, I am a newbie here. Just signed on the dotted line yesterday for Mazda 3. Look like I am the kan chiong spider (a bit regret now). Rush into it because my car expired in Jan 2015.

    Nothing to regret. If my car was >5yrs old I will also buy. Only 2�things�I wish for is (1)�electronic parking brake and (2) electric seats. Considering that Hyundai i30 has both, I don't see why Mz3 couldn't not include.


  • 15 May 2014 - 08:31 AM
    GLZT
    Test driven it a couple of days ago, engine quite loud, I suppose cause of high compression ratio due to the skyactive technology, handles pretty decent for a small car. Acceleration feels like typical 1.5/1.6 car. Thing I don't like is the deluxe version have this ugly and low quality looking HUD plastic(not sure if its glass but I doubt so) sticking out right above the dashboard.

    Its good to have such interesting feature, but they didn't spend enough effort making it look good. So might as well don't put better.
  • 15 May 2014 - 09:09 AM
    Baal

    Test driven it a couple of days ago, engine quite loud, I suppose cause of high compression ratio due to the skyactive technology, handles pretty decent for a small car. Acceleration feels like typical 1.5/1.6 car. Thing I don't like is the deluxe version have this ugly and low quality looking HUD plastic(not sure if its glass but I doubt so) sticking out right above the dashboard.

    Its good to have such interesting feature, but they didn't spend enough effort making it look good. So might as well don't put better.

    That's a great improvement already. The prev 3sp was a 12.3 sec car. This new model is rated at 11.8. So I guess the numbers are not lying.

    Able to share at which Rpm�point does the useable torque comes on?� TIA.�


  • 15 May 2014 - 09:24 AM
    GLZT


    That's a great improvement already. The prev 3sp was a 12.3 sec car. This new model is rated at 11.8. So I guess the numbers are not lying.

    Able to share at which Rpm�point does the useable torque comes on?� TIA.�


    I guess so, cause I never driven the Mazda 3 sp before. I suppose useable means when feeling the surge? Like turbo or VTEC kui? I think NA car very likely base on the driver's foot.
  • 15 May 2014 - 09:28 AM
    Twich

    Test driven it a couple of days ago, engine quite loud, I suppose cause of high compression ratio due to the skyactive technology, handles pretty decent for a small car. Acceleration feels like typical 1.5/1.6 car. Thing I don't like is the deluxe version have this ugly and low quality looking HUD plastic(not sure if its glass but I doubt so) sticking out right above the dashboard.

    Its good to have such interesting feature, but they didn't spend enough effort making it look good. So might as well don't put better.

    This a family car. Not for u to chon.
  • 15 May 2014 - 09:40 AM
    GLZT

    This a family car. Not for u to chon.


    Its just a review, don't review about engine then should I bring some baby trolleys and child seats and see whether it fits nicely?
  • 15 May 2014 - 09:44 AM
    Twich

    Its just a review, don't review about engine then should I bring some baby trolleys and child seats and see whether it fits nicely?

    Appreciate your review. My car is coming to 10 years next Mar 2015. I am thinking New Mazda 3 Toyota Altis.
  • 15 May 2014 - 10:01 AM
    Baal

    I guess so, cause I never driven the Mazda 3 sp before. I suppose useable means when feeling the surge? Like turbo or VTEC kui? I think NA car very likely base on the driver's foot.

    Surge I guess would be too strong a word. I suppose if it can move about like those J & K 1.6 with dvvt would be a sufficient improvement.

    1 more thing I like about Maz is that they are mostly avoiding the hybrid route. Staying mostly with petrol/diesel. Improving FC, torque via engine technology instead of batteries [grin]�. For me its because I have a somewhat�"purist" mind set &�that Hybrids imo has no�feasible application for PQP aspirations.�


  • 15 May 2014 - 10:10 AM
    GLZT

    Surge I guess would be too strong a word. I suppose if it can move about like those J & K 1.6 with dvvt would be a sufficient improvement.

    1 more thing I like about Maz is that they are mostly avoiding the hybrid route. Staying mostly with petrol/diesel. Improving FC, torque via engine technology instead of batteries [grin]�. For me its because I have a somewhat�"purist" mind set &�that Hybrids imo has no�feasible application for PQP aspirations.�

    I didnt really notice that, but I would say its about 3K + rpm.


  • 15 May 2014 - 01:35 PM
    fulltime68


    Nothing to regret. If my car was >5yrs old I will also buy. Only 2�things�I wish for is (1)�electronic parking brake and (2) electric seats. Considering that Hyundai i30 has both, I don't see why Mz3 couldn't not include.


    fyi, Mazda 3 deluxe model has electric seats.. but even without electric seats, i Will choose Mazda over Hyundai and Toyota, anytime....
  • 15 May 2014 - 02:15 PM
    Baal

    Any bro here has access to the power/torque curve Vs RPM of the Mz3?

    Also the OCI under Normal usage?� TIA


  • 15 May 2014 - 04:47 PM
    Kar_lover

    fyi, Mazda 3 deluxe model has electric seats.. but even without electric seats, i Will choose Mazda over Hyundai and Toyota, anytime....

    But the $99k which was advertised was not the deluxe right? It's the sub $100k price that I found attractive...


  • 15 May 2014 - 05:12 PM
    fulltime68


    But the $99k which was advertised was not the deluxe right? It's the sub $100k price that I found attractive...


    yes, u are correct Bro. only found in deluxe model tat was selling for 105,988 last weekend. the new price is now 108,988 and for basic model, its 101,988. I guess biz must have been over whelming for Maz..
  • 15 May 2014 - 05:39 PM
    Twich

    yes, u are correct Bro. only found in deluxe model tat was selling for 105,988 last weekend. the new price is now 108,988 and for basic model, its 101,988. I guess biz must have been over whelming for Maz..

    From Aug 2014 onwards. There will be more COE will be issued. It could be 35% more than now.
  • 15 May 2014 - 05:42 PM
    Kar_lover

    yes, u are correct Bro. only found in deluxe model tat was selling for 105,988 last weekend. the new price is now 108,988 and for basic model, its 101,988. I guess biz must have been over whelming for Maz..

    Strange that in sgcarmart it says deluxe also don't have electric seats. Anyway if the rest of the differences is correct (navigation, HID, fog lamps, cruise control) than the $6k difference should be ok.

    http://www.sgcarmart...ars_compare.php


  • 15 May 2014 - 06:01 PM
    fulltime68



    Strange that in sgcarmart it says deluxe also don't have electric seats. Anyway if the rest of the differences is correct (navigation, HID, fog lamps, cruise control) than the $6k difference should be ok.

    http://www.sgcarmart...ars_compare.php


    driver seat confirm got electric seats.. btw, the diff is now 7k, after yesterday increase in pricing.
  • 15 May 2014 - 06:32 PM
    JJaassoonn
    Hope it will drop to 70K
  • 15 May 2014 - 09:05 PM
    Blackyv

    Hope it will drop to 70K


    Coe had to drop below 20k to hit that amount..... Pray hard bro.... I need your luck.... Hehehe...
  • 15 May 2014 - 09:46 PM
    Naimed

    yes, u are correct Bro. only found in deluxe model tat was selling for 105,988 last weekend. the new price is now 108,988 and for basic model, its 101,988. I guess biz must have been over whelming for Maz..


    Went to 3 showrooms at the Ubi area during Vesak holiday. Mazda is the most crowded followed by Toyota and Honda (quiet). IMHO, the new Mazda3 is very nice. There is definitely electronic seat on the deluxe model (tried on driver side). Boot is really huge. Fully made in Japan?
  • 15 May 2014 - 10:10 PM
    JJaassoonn

    Coe had to drop below 20k to hit that amount..... Pray hard bro.... I need your luck.... Hehehe...


    Let pray together
  • 15 May 2014 - 10:42 PM
    fulltime68

    Went to 3 showrooms at the Ubi area during Vesak holiday. Mazda is the most crowded followed by Toyota and Honda (quiet). IMHO, the new Mazda3 is very nice. There is definitely electronic seat on the deluxe model (tried on driver side). Boot is really huge. Fully made in Japan?

    based on what I know, its fully made in Japan.. it makes a more worthwhile buy than its competitors...

    btw, i am not a Mazda SE, i am just an avid Mazda lover :)


  • 16 May 2014 - 07:46 AM
    Kar_lover

    driver seat confirm got electric seats.. btw, the diff is now 7k, after yesterday increase in pricing.

    Damn, I really wish it had the electronic parking brake!! The centre console actually looks very audi/bmw-like with the rotating wheel for the MMI and the 5 buttons surrounding it - that handbrake lever really spoil it!


  • 16 May 2014 - 09:12 AM
    Twich


    Damn, I really wish it had the electronic parking brake!! The centre console actually looks very audi/bmw-like with the rotating wheel for the MMI and the 5 buttons surrounding it - that handbrake lever really spoil it!

    That the main point. Japanese car is more reliable than VW and Audi. Is it necessary to have?
  • 16 May 2014 - 09:22 AM
    Kar_lover

    That the main point. Japanese car is more reliable than VW and Audi. Is it necessary to have?

    Not a necessity but it's cool :)

    Aiyah many things are not necessary also, like electric seats, navigation, auto headlights,�rain sensing wipers,�etc etc etc. So I am just saying they did well in many areas for the car's interior like the MMI and even the centre instrument cluster with the big tacho and digital speed display (like some sportscar) so it is just a pity they didn't do the electric parking brake to complete the look.


  • 16 May 2014 - 09:50 AM
    Heartlander

    Not a necessity but it's cool :)

    Aiyah many things are not necessary also, like electric seats, navigation, auto headlights,�rain sensing wipers,�etc etc etc. So I am just saying they did well in many areas for the car's interior like the MMI and even the centre instrument cluster with the big tacho and digital speed display (like some sportscar) so it is just a pity they didn't do the electric parking brake to complete the look.

    That feature is normally reserved for hi-end models lah.


  • 16 May 2014 - 10:50 AM
    Kar_lover

    That feature is normally reserved for hi-end models lah.

    Hyundai i30 have leh....


  • 16 May 2014 - 11:48 AM
    Heartlander

    Hyundai i30 have leh....

    There is no perfect car lah. I would be damn happy if could have the new Mazda 3 hatchback in the early years, so nice! These are minor thingy to me.


  • 16 May 2014 - 12:18 PM
    Wyvern

    I do agree those new electronics gadgets and accessories are good to have if they come with it. Maybe its just me, I dont quite fully utilize these electronic gadgets and its function on my current M3 SP. Throughout my 4 years with my ride, I have only use Audio, only on for Radio, hardly use the Disc changer even though I have it. Not to mention the rest of the functions..

    And somehow, it actually adds to my fear of these electronic functions breaking down when parking in local weather climate. Maybe I am just overly worried... :D


  • 16 May 2014 - 12:31 PM
    Blackyv

    I do agree those new electronics gadgets and accessories are good to have if they come with it. Maybe its just me, I dont quite fully utilize these electronic gadgets and its function on my current M3 SP. Throughout my 4 years with my ride, I have only use Audio, only on for Radio, hardly use the Disc changer even though I have it. Not to mention the rest of the functions..

    And somehow, it actually adds to my fear of these electronic functions breaking down when parking in local weather climate. Maybe I am just overly worried... :D


    Exactly my thought as well.... Hehe...
  • 16 May 2014 - 01:00 PM
    Spring

    Not a necessity but it's cool :)

    Aiyah many things are not necessary also, like electric seats, navigation, auto headlights,�rain sensing wipers,�etc etc etc. So I am just saying they did well in many areas for the car's interior like the MMI and even the centre instrument cluster with the big tacho and digital speed display (like some sportscar) so it is just a pity they didn't do the electric parking brake to complete the look.


    My family have 3 people sharing the car, it's quite frustrating trying to get the driver seat back to the position each of us want. So memory seats are useful in this aspect. I'm assuming electric seats r memory seats right?�
  • 16 May 2014 - 01:39 PM
    twl2501

    Exactly my thought as well.... Hehe...

    But u dun have to worry since u park at basement, no?

    :P


  • 16 May 2014 - 01:44 PM
    Baal

    Exactly my thought as well.... Hehe...

    Yep, my work place open air.

    I also park in mscp rather than open cp unless Sun night to Thurs night back at home.

    Understand that the temp in the cabin can�reache 60 C ~ parked in the day.


  • 16 May 2014 - 01:51 PM
    Blackyv


    But u dun have to worry since u park at basement, no?
    :P


    Stalker spotted... How do you know my home carpark is basement type?..... Hehehe...

    But my workplace is open carpark... Damn sunny recently...
  • 16 May 2014 - 02:44 PM
    Yuan

    I do agree those new electronics gadgets and accessories are good to have if they come with it. Maybe its just me, I dont quite fully utilize these electronic gadgets and its function on my current M3 SP. Throughout my 4 years with my ride, I have only use Audio, only on for Radio, hardly use the Disc changer even though I have it. Not to mention the rest of the functions..

    And somehow, it actually adds to my fear of these electronic functions breaking down when parking in local weather climate. Maybe I am just overly worried... :D

    Not sure if you would classify airbags and/or ESP to be electronic gadgets and accessories but I rather have more airbags and safety features in the car than some of the other electronic gadgets/accessories.


  • 16 May 2014 - 03:03 PM
    Blackyv

    Not sure if you would classify airbags and/or ESP to be electronic gadgets and accessories but I rather have more airbags and safety features in the car than some of the other electronic gadgets/accessories.

    safety features are not the same lar... just like the mz3 got this open up screen/panel which shows the speed thingy... ... everytime start engine is open and close when stop car.. wonder can the mechanism or motor last 10yrs... actually, i prefer old school speedometer instead of digital.... no kick seeing numbers.. i like to see the needle moves up when i step on gas...... [:p]


  • 16 May 2014 - 03:15 PM
    Baal

    safety features are not the same lar... just like the mz3 got this open up screen/panel which shows the speed thingy... ... everytime start engine is open and close when stop car.. wonder can the mechanism or motor last 10yrs... actually, i prefer old school speedometer instead of digital.... no kick seeing numbers.. i like to see the needle moves up when i step on gas...... [:p]

    huh? u mean the little digi�speedo at the bottom right of the analogue tacho actually flips up when engine start & down/retracts when engine off?


  • 16 May 2014 - 03:15 PM
    Kangadrool

    mee too. The digital readout makes the car feel slow even if it is fast.

    safety features are not the same lar... just like the mz3 got this open up screen/panel which shows the speed thingy... ... everytime start engine is open and close when stop car.. wonder can the mechanism or motor last 10yrs... actually, i prefer old school speedometer instead of digital.... no kick seeing numbers.. i like to see the needle moves up when i step on gas...... [:p]


  • 16 May 2014 - 03:19 PM
    Blackyv


    huh? u mean the little digi�speedo at the bottom right of the analogue tacho actually flips up when engine start & down/retracts when engine off?


    Yup... Cool right..?.... Hehehe... But I don't like actually.....
  • 16 May 2014 - 04:07 PM
    Wyvern

    Not sure if you would classify airbags and/or ESP to be electronic gadgets and accessories but I rather have more airbags and safety features in the car than some of the other electronic gadgets/accessories.

    Airbags to me are a necessity. Safety always first. what I am refering to for electronic gadgets were those GPS or touch screen display, high performance audio systems...etc. Somehow, I dont really use these electronic gadgets as much. Eg. how often does a driver meddles the touch screen during his drive or d you rely on GPS when drving locally..?

    What I do see in the basics of a car is the safety and comfy-ness. Especially the seats, like the side supports of the seat when making a turn, how well it supports your left and right of your body, the length or width of the base of the seats, does it gives enough support to your cover your thighs. Rear seat Air-con vents...etc.

    Thats just my personal preferences... :D


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