Thứ Ba, 29 tháng 11, 2016

2014 Mazda 3 part 103

  • 22 March 2016 - 12:49 AM
    Helmetbox30

    Hi bros, anyone bought the boot tray and windshield sunscreen from mazdaparts.org before? Is it value for money ah?

    Doesn't seem to ship to Singapore directly. Shipping might be expensive..
  • 22 March 2016 - 10:38 AM
    Tansc

    After the test drive, SE texted me this morning, asking me to confirm the order, else after tmr's COE bidding, all the offers (warranty, free servicing, camera and solar film) will be changed.....

    Any truth of this??? COE price will affect their profit margin???


  • 22 March 2016 - 10:52 AM
    rider83

    After the test drive, SE texted me this morning, asking me to confirm the order, else after tmr's COE bidding, all the offers (warranty, free servicing, camera and solar film) will be changed.....

    Any truth of this??? COE price will affect their profit margin???

    Any truth? Yes, in fact think about it, any time they want to change offers or free gifts they can right? So what is the SE's intention of texting u this? Your SE probably wants to lock in your sale before the COE bidding (to hit his monthly target???). Now you can try to text your SE what ADDITIONAL things he can offer you to get you sign on the dotted line before COE bidding tml....

    COE....profit margin?? Again, yes. The reason I am saying this is because I know of someone working at the back office and sometimes spike in COE can hurt their margin badly. After all they sell you at fixed price without first getting a COE for you right. So yup, it will hurt their margin.

    Sounds like you are a first time buyer like myself (a few months back). If you are not signing now, and your SE remove the freebies tomorrow, simple. Just walk away go to other dealers next door. Then text him what his competitor is offering you...


  • 22 March 2016 - 11:08 AM
    Tansc

    Any truth? Yes, in fact think about it, any time they want to change offers or free gifts they can right? So what is the SE's intention of texting u this? Your SE probably wants to lock in your sale before the COE bidding (to hit his monthly target???). Now you can try to text your SE what ADDITIONAL things he can offer you to get you sign on the dotted line before COE bidding tml....

    COE....profit margin?? Again, yes. The reason I am saying this is because I know of someone working at the back office and sometimes spike in COE can hurt their margin badly. After all they sell you at fixed price without first getting a COE for you right. So yup, it will hurt their margin.

    Sounds like you are a first time buyer like myself (a few months back). If you are not signing now, and your SE remove the freebies tomorrow, simple. Just walk away go to other dealers next door. Then text him what his competitor is offering you...

    Ya, this is my first time getting a new car. That's why really know nothing about what COE rebate, freebies, etc.....

    Have been driving 2nd hand cars for the past many years, which involves simpler transaction.


  • 22 March 2016 - 11:34 AM
    Mz3SP0907

    Bro rider83 is correct.

    As long as the money in your pocket is your money. You decide what you want, of coz, SE will entice you to buy but you have the bargaining power in this situation. So maximize it if you have decided.

    Happy negotiating bro... [rolleyes]

    Ya, this is my first time getting a new car. That's why really know nothing about what COE rebate, freebies, etc.....

    Have been driving 2nd hand cars for the past many years, which involves simpler transaction.


  • 22 March 2016 - 11:42 AM
    dcb

    Well said bro!!!� [thumbsup]

    Any truth? Yes, in fact think about it, any time they want to change offers or free gifts they can right? So what is the SE's intention of texting u this? Your SE probably wants to lock in your sale before the COE bidding (to hit his monthly target???). Now you can try to text your SE what ADDITIONAL things he can offer you to get you sign on the dotted line before COE bidding tml....

    COE....profit margin?? Again, yes. The reason I am saying this is because I know of someone working at the back office and sometimes spike in COE can hurt their margin badly. After all they sell you at fixed price without first getting a COE for you right. So yup, it will hurt their margin.

    Sounds like you are a first time buyer like myself (a few months back). If you are not signing now, and your SE remove the freebies tomorrow, simple. Just walk away go to other dealers next door. Then text him what his competitor is offering you...


  • 22 March 2016 - 11:49 AM
    hatuah

    After the test drive, SE texted me this morning, asking me to confirm the order, else after tmr's COE bidding, all the offers (warranty, free servicing, camera and solar film) will be changed.....

    Any truth of this??? COE price will affect their profit margin???

    Just take the SE words with a pinch of salt. All these freebies are pretty much standard stuff that they'll throw in. My SE also told me to lock in the price now as the price was going to increase the following week but I waited and the price did not increase.


  • 22 March 2016 - 11:59 AM
    dcb

    Basically its all sales talk. The SE is trying to close and secure the deal sooner.

    Like what rider83 said, use this opportunity to ask for more freebies to close the deal now.

    After the test drive, SE texted me this morning, asking me to confirm the order, else after tmr's COE bidding, all the offers (warranty, free servicing, camera and solar film) will be changed.....

    Any truth of this??? COE price will affect their profit margin???


  • 22 March 2016 - 12:09 PM
    rider83

    Ya, this is my first time getting a new car. That's why really know nothing about what COE rebate, freebies, etc.....

    Have been driving 2nd hand cars for the past many years, which involves simpler transaction.

    I would have thought getting 2nd hand car more troublesome, many things to check and lemon laws and such..

    Speaking of COE rebate, just check what amount they put inside your contract. To put it simple, the higher the COE rebate the better for you, because they have to refund you the difference if they ended up getting lower COE than what is stated in your contract.


    Basically its all sales talk. The SE is trying to close and secure the deal sooner.

    Like what rider83 said, use this opportunity to ask for more freebies to close the deal now.

    It is always reassuring when dcb agrees :)


  • 22 March 2016 - 12:14 PM
    dcb

    [hur][smash]:a-bang::a-m1524:

    It is always reassuring when dcb agrees :)


  • 22 March 2016 - 12:59 PM
    EddHooi

    After the test drive, SE texted me this morning, asking me to confirm the order, else after tmr's COE bidding, all the offers (warranty, free servicing, camera and solar film) will be changed.....
    Any truth of this??? COE price will affect their profit margin???


    Yes, its true. But SE is assuming COE will go up.

    If it comes down, then u will probably buy the car at a lower price!
  • 22 March 2016 - 01:02 PM
    Forte3737

    Yep. Thats the trend in the future. And i Like it.

    That is because we are trying to keep our cars running longer on the roads. The older our cars get, the more problems our cars start to have due to wear and tear issues. Sigh only the super rich can afford new car luxury nowadays.


  • 22 March 2016 - 01:13 PM
    HamtayoChan

    Any truth? Yes, in fact think about it, any time they want to change offers or free gifts they can right? So what is the SE's intention of texting u this? Your SE probably wants to lock in your sale before the COE bidding (to hit his monthly target???). Now you can try to text your SE what ADDITIONAL things he can offer you to get you sign on the dotted line before COE bidding tml....

    COE....profit margin?? Again, yes. The reason I am saying this is because I know of someone working at the back office and sometimes spike in COE can hurt their margin badly. After all they sell you at fixed price without first getting a COE for you right. So yup, it will hurt their margin.

    Sounds like you are a first time buyer like myself (a few months back). If you are not signing now, and your SE remove the freebies tomorrow, simple. Just walk away go to other dealers next door. Then text him what his competitor is offering you...

    This is the post of the week� [:p]


  • 22 March 2016 - 02:34 PM
    NickTham
    hi all....heard of balloon scheme?
    any idea what is this....offered by Mazda AD to my colleaual recently..
  • 22 March 2016 - 04:03 PM
    D3571ny

    hi all....heard of balloon scheme?
    any idea what is this....offered by Mazda AD to my colleaual recently..

    Balloon scheme is higher interest rate.
    Lower monthly repayment, but still same amount of downpayment.
    At the end of 5 years need to pay the lump sum of the car paper value.

    Basically its just delaying your payment of the 5 years paper value but the bank will still calculate the interest of it.�


    hi all....heard of balloon scheme?
    any idea what is this....offered by Mazda AD to my colleaual recently..

    Balloon scheme is higher interest rate.
    Lower monthly repayment, but still same amount of downpayment.
    At the end of 5 years need to pay the lump sum of the car paper value.

    Basically its just delaying your payment of the 5 years paper value but the bank will still calculate the interest of it.�


  • 22 March 2016 - 05:21 PM
    ahbear82

    hi all....heard of balloon scheme?
    any idea what is this....offered by Mazda AD to my colleaual recently..

    Ballon scheme means the take into account of your car scrape value (on the scenario whereby you drive this car for full 10 years ), then minus this scrape value from your car total cost.

    you can refer to the below for more info on various type of "Scheme" :

    1. Overtrade

    This is a practice commonly used by authorised car dealers, to help customers reduce the amount of downpayment they have to pay. Let�s use an illustration to explain:

    Ms Lee wants to buy a car that costs $100,000. Because the car loan can only cover up to 60% of the price, it means that she�ll need to come up with a downpayment of at least $40,000.

    However, say the dealer offers an overtrade of $10,000. This means that the purchase price is artificially inflated to $110,000. Subsequently, the 40% downpayment amount should be $44,000. However, because of the overtrade, the downpayment amount is actually less $10,000 or $34,000. The dealer has �saved� Ms Lee $6,000.

    So what�s the catch? Because the purchase price was artificially inflated, it means that the car loan amount has also increased. Using the illustration above, it has increased from $60,000 to $66,000. Assuming an interest rate of 1.6%, this means that Ms Lee has to pay about $100 more each month over a 5 year tenure. This might be more than Ms Lee can afford.

    Even if she can afford it, it will also affect her Total Debt Servicing Ratio or TDSR. Remember that TDSR rules means that Singaporeans won�t be able to borrow more than 60% of their monthly income. Even though it�s only an extra $100, this could restrict Ms Lee from getting a larger home loan, later on.

    2. Invoice Inflation

    This is a practice sometimes found with second-hand car dealers. What these dealers do is claim they can offer you an �in-house car loan� that covers a higher proportion of your purchase price. This is normally 70% to 80% of the purchase price, but some may even be advertising a 100% loan.

    Now, here�s where it gets insidious. Invoice inflation means that the seller inflates the value of the car in order to obtain a higher loan amount from the bank. Say the car only costs $100,000. Officially you can only get a loan of $60,000 from the bank. However, if the seller inflates the value to say� $150,000, then the bank can give you a loan of $90,000. This is 90% of the original purchase price, which means you only need to pay a downpayment of 10%.

    So what�s the catch? The value of the car may be artificially inflated to a point where the bank is unable to issue the loan, because your monthly income is not high enough. Trying to find that sweet spot between how much the bank is willing to loan and how much of a downpayment you can afford should be a pretty strong hint that you might not be able to afford that car on your salary.

    3. Balloon scheme

    This practice is offered by some financial institutions, especially for used cars. Even though they charge a higher interest rate for the �in house car loan�, you end up paying less each month. What they do is subtract the scrap value of your car from the loan amount before calculating the lower monthly repayment. This may seem like an extremely good idea, but let�s see exactly how it works:

    Let�s take the illustration of a used car costing $50,000. Assuming you take out a car loan of 60% of the amount with an interest rate of 1.6% over 5 years.

    The total you can expect to pay is $52,400, or $540 a month.

    In the �balloon scheme�, the scrap value is deducted from the loan amount. The scrap value is determined by the PARF rebate and is determined by the age of the car at de-registration. Let�s assume the used car only qualifies for the minimum PARF rebate of 50% of the ARF paid or about $7,000.

    Let�s assume the car loan is paid at an interest rate of 2.8% over 5 years.

    The total you can now expect to pay is $54,200. However, after deducting the $7,000 scrap value of the car, that�s only $47,200 or only about $453 a month.

    That�s a difference of $87, or about 16% less each month. This lower amount could make all the difference to your TDSR, especially when you�re trying to take out a home loan.

    So what�s the catch? To enjoy the benefits of this scheme, you must have driven the car until it�s ready to be scrapped. That�s the only way you can be assured of having the money to pay off the minimum PARF rebate at the end of the loan. If, for some reason, you�re in need of money and need to get rid of the car earlier, you may not only face higher penalties for early repayment, you�ll still have to keep paying off the loan�s higher interest rate.

    Source from : http://blog.moneysmart.sg


  • 22 March 2016 - 05:57 PM
    dcb

    [thumbsup]:a-m1212:

    Ballon scheme means the take into account of your car scrape value (on the scenario whereby you drive this car for full 10 years ), then minus this scrape value from your car total cost.

    you can refer to the below for more info on various type of "Scheme" :

    1. Overtrade

    This is a practice commonly used by authorised car dealers, to help customers reduce the amount of downpayment they have to pay. Let�s use an illustration to explain:

    Ms Lee wants to buy a car that costs $100,000. Because the car loan can only cover up to 60% of the price, it means that she�ll need to come up with a downpayment of at least $40,000.

    However, say the dealer offers an overtrade of $10,000. This means that the purchase price is artificially inflated to $110,000. Subsequently, the 40% downpayment amount should be $44,000. However, because of the overtrade, the downpayment amount is actually less $10,000 or $34,000. The dealer has �saved� Ms Lee $6,000.

    So what�s the catch? Because the purchase price was artificially inflated, it means that the car loan amount has also increased. Using the illustration above, it has increased from $60,000 to $66,000. Assuming an interest rate of 1.6%, this means that Ms Lee has to pay about $100 more each month over a 5 year tenure. This might be more than Ms Lee can afford.

    Even if she can afford it, it will also affect her Total Debt Servicing Ratio or TDSR. Remember that TDSR rules means that Singaporeans won�t be able to borrow more than 60% of their monthly income. Even though it�s only an extra $100, this could restrict Ms Lee from getting a larger home loan, later on.

    2. Invoice Inflation

    This is a practice sometimes found with second-hand car dealers. What these dealers do is claim they can offer you an �in-house car loan� that covers a higher proportion of your purchase price. This is normally 70% to 80% of the purchase price, but some may even be advertising a 100% loan.

    Now, here�s where it gets insidious. Invoice inflation means that the seller inflates the value of the car in order to obtain a higher loan amount from the bank. Say the car only costs $100,000. Officially you can only get a loan of $60,000 from the bank. However, if the seller inflates the value to say� $150,000, then the bank can give you a loan of $90,000. This is 90% of the original purchase price, which means you only need to pay a downpayment of 10%.

    So what�s the catch? The value of the car may be artificially inflated to a point where the bank is unable to issue the loan, because your monthly income is not high enough. Trying to find that sweet spot between how much the bank is willing to loan and how much of a downpayment you can afford should be a pretty strong hint that you might not be able to afford that car on your salary.

    3. Balloon scheme

    This practice is offered by some financial institutions, especially for used cars. Even though they charge a higher interest rate for the �in house car loan�, you end up paying less each month. What they do is subtract the scrap value of your car from the loan amount before calculating the lower monthly repayment. This may seem like an extremely good idea, but let�s see exactly how it works:

    Let�s take the illustration of a used car costing $50,000. Assuming you take out a car loan of 60% of the amount with an interest rate of 1.6% over 5 years.

    The total you can expect to pay is $52,400, or $540 a month.

    In the �balloon scheme�, the scrap value is deducted from the loan amount. The scrap value is determined by the PARF rebate and is determined by the age of the car at de-registration. Let�s assume the used car only qualifies for the minimum PARF rebate of 50% of the ARF paid or about $7,000.

    Let�s assume the car loan is paid at an interest rate of 2.8% over 5 years.

    The total you can now expect to pay is $54,200. However, after deducting the $7,000 scrap value of the car, that�s only $47,200 or only about $453 a month.

    That�s a difference of $87, or about 16% less each month. This lower amount could make all the difference to your TDSR, especially when you�re trying to take out a home loan.

    So what�s the catch? To enjoy the benefits of this scheme, you must have driven the car until it�s ready to be scrapped. That�s the only way you can be assured of having the money to pay off the minimum PARF rebate at the end of the loan. If, for some reason, you�re in need of money and need to get rid of the car earlier, you may not only face higher penalties for early repayment, you�ll still have to keep paying off the loan�s higher interest rate.

    Source from : http://blog.moneysmart.sg


  • 22 March 2016 - 09:42 PM
    Boyce

    Ya, this is my first time getting a new car. That's why really know nothing about what COE rebate, freebies, etc.....
    Have been driving 2nd hand cars for the past many years, which involves simpler transaction.

    Mr Tan,

    I had the same experience!

    If I could do it again,
    I'll request for,
    Accessories -solar film, car camera (add reverse recording as well), sports pedal, car mat.
    More trade in value for the current car(ask for additional discount if you trade in your Altis)
    Servicing-up to 5 years or 100km (3yrs or 60km for more discount)
    Go for deluxe to save the hassle of doing additional stuff outside
    Try asking- 18" rims, body kit

    Truthfully, you have an advantage if you don't show your hand.
    Tell the salesperson you'd prefer to get the Altis because you're very comfortable with its reliability and having test driven it, you're extremely satisfied.
    Say they're offering you additional discount for trading in an Altis as well.
    The only reason why you'd get the Mazda is only if the salesperson gives you the right deal.

    Don't let the salesperson smoke you that he will take away the freebies. Someone else will offer the basic stuff

    If you paiseh to negotiate then GG!

    Edited by Boyce, 22 March 2016 - 09:44 PM.

  • 22 March 2016 - 11:49 PM
    Helmetbox30

    Mr Tan,

    I had the same experience!

    If I could do it again,
    I'll request for,
    Accessories -solar film, car camera (add reverse recording as well), sports pedal, car mat.
    More trade in value for the current car(ask for additional discount if you trade in your Altis)
    Servicing-up to 5 years or 100km (3yrs or 60km for more discount)
    Go for deluxe to save the hassle of doing additional stuff outside
    Try asking- 18" rims, body kit

    Truthfully, you have an advantage if you don't show your hand.
    Tell the salesperson you'd prefer to get the Altis because you're very comfortable with its reliability and having test driven it, you're extremely satisfied.
    Say they're offering you additional discount for trading in an Altis as well.
    The only reason why you'd get the Mazda is only if the salesperson gives you the right deal.

    Don't let the salesperson smoke you that he will take away the freebies. Someone else will offer the basic stuff

    If you paiseh to negotiate then GG!

    Last time I go down talk to me se also quite difficult leh.. Haha.. I spoke to three se before signing.. Too bad didn't manage to get some freebie that some bros here has.. But my this SE not so bad.. When signing that time I said give me extra 6 month road tax leh.. Then instead of giving me 6 months road tax, he gave me extra 1k off the price.. Which is more beneficial for me..
  • 23 March 2016 - 11:09 AM
    hatuah

    Just to confirm with other Mazda 3 owners here. Been driving my new MZ3 for a couple of days. When I start the engine in the morning when it's "cold", the engine produces loud noises with a slight rattle. My RPM also moves to a slightly higher range. Is the car trying to warm up on its own?

    Sorry if this question might sound dumb but I was driving a 2006 lao pok kimchi car prior to my current ride.


  • 23 March 2016 - 11:40 AM
    rider83

    Just to confirm with other Mazda 3 owners here. Been driving my new MZ3 for a couple of days. When I start the engine in the morning when it's "cold", the engine produces loud noises with a slight rattle. My RPM also moves to a slightly higher range. Is the car trying to warm up on its own?

    Sorry if this question might sound dumb but I was driving a 2006 lao pok kimchi car prior to my current ride.

    Yes. You will also see a blue light indicator as well. Your RPM will also be above 1k.

    Typically, I will wait for the RPM to drop to below 1k before I drive off. The blue indicator will still be on though, so I drive light footing, keep my rpm as low as possible until the blue indicator is gone. To be honest, after blue indicator is gone, I also cannot rev hard because I would be in a traffic jam anyway.... Haha


  • 23 March 2016 - 11:50 AM
    toonified

    I am hoping to get my 3 deluxe after today's bidding...

    I was offered the free front+back camera, brand is Papago. I dont see much reviews, anyone has the free one from Mazda, can share which model it is?

    Seems like mainly hear blackvue and thinkware in the forums and online search, not sure if Papago is good/reliable?


  • 23 March 2016 - 11:58 AM
    rider83

    I am hoping to get my 3 deluxe after today's bidding...

    I was offered the free front+back camera, brand is Papago. I dont see much reviews, anyone has the free one from Mazda, can share which model it is?

    Seems like mainly hear blackvue and thinkware in the forums and online search, not sure if Papago is good/reliable?

    Mine is papago too. So far so good I think. Only having my car close to 2 mths, i cant say much about papago's reliability. My front camera is hidden by the rear mirror from driver's end, so I cant see if it is working. My wife says it is recording so should be still working lolz...�

    The front camera resolution is good, can see front vehicle car plate about 10 metres away. Rear camera has lower resolution, so need the car to get nearer to yours before the car plate can be captured nicely. Storage is about 2 days or so before it gets overwritten, but this largely depends how much you drive each day.

    Not much complaints about this brand, it is just a camera. Its usefulness only comes with u encounter an accident, which I hope it does not happen to fellow bros here.


  • 23 March 2016 - 12:53 PM
    Runforyourlife
    My bid is 46k hope this round can get
  • 23 March 2016 - 01:00 PM
    Mz3SP0907

    My bid is 46k hope this round can get

    Wish you luck...
  • 23 March 2016 - 02:12 PM
    NickTham

    Ballon scheme means the take into account of your car scrape value (on the scenario whereby you drive this car for full 10 years ), then minus this scrape value from your car total cost.

    you can refer to the below for more info on various type of "Scheme" :
    1. Overtrade
    This is a practice commonly used by authorised car dealers, to help customers reduce the amount of downpayment they have to pay. Let�s use an illustration to explain:
    Ms Lee wants to buy a car that costs $100,000. Because the car loan can only cover up to 60% of the price, it means that she�ll need to come up with a downpayment of at least $40,000.
    However, say the dealer offers an overtrade of $10,000. This means that the purchase price is artificially inflated to $110,000. Subsequently, the 40% downpayment amount should be $44,000. However, because of the overtrade, the downpayment amount is actually less $10,000 or $34,000. The dealer has �saved� Ms Lee $6,000.
    So what�s the catch? Because the purchase price was artificially inflated, it means that the car loan amount has also increased. Using the illustration above, it has increased from $60,000 to $66,000. Assuming an interest rate of 1.6%, this means that Ms Lee has to pay about $100 more each month over a 5 year tenure. This might be more than Ms Lee can afford.
    Even if she can afford it, it will also affect her Total Debt Servicing Ratio or TDSR. Remember that TDSR rules means that Singaporeans won�t be able to borrow more than 60% of their monthly income. Even though it�s only an extra $100, this could restrict Ms Lee from getting a larger home loan, later on.
    2. Invoice Inflation
    This is a practice sometimes found with second-hand car dealers. What these dealers do is claim they can offer you an �in-house car loan� that covers a higher proportion of your purchase price. This is normally 70% to 80% of the purchase price, but some may even be advertising a 100% loan.
    Now, here�s where it gets insidious. Invoice inflation means that the seller inflates the value of the car in order to obtain a higher loan amount from the bank. Say the car only costs $100,000. Officially you can only get a loan of $60,000 from the bank. However, if the seller inflates the value to say� $150,000, then the bank can give you a loan of $90,000. This is 90% of the original purchase price, which means you only need to pay a downpayment of 10%.
    So what�s the catch? The value of the car may be artificially inflated to a point where the bank is unable to issue the loan, because your monthly income is not high enough. Trying to find that sweet spot between how much the bank is willing to loan and how much of a downpayment you can afford should be a pretty strong hint that you might not be able to afford that car on your salary.
    3. Balloon scheme
    This practice is offered by some financial institutions, especially for used cars. Even though they charge a higher interest rate for the �in house car loan�, you end up paying less each month. What they do is subtract the scrap value of your car from the loan amount before calculating the lower monthly repayment. This may seem like an extremely good idea, but let�s see exactly how it works:
    Let�s take the illustration of a used car costing $50,000. Assuming you take out a car loan of 60% of the amount with an interest rate of 1.6% over 5 years.
    The total you can expect to pay is $52,400, or $540 a month.
    In the �balloon scheme�, the scrap value is deducted from the loan amount. The scrap value is determined by the PARF rebate and is determined by the age of the car at de-registration. Let�s assume the used car only qualifies for the minimum PARF rebate of 50% of the ARF paid or about $7,000.
    Let�s assume the car loan is paid at an interest rate of 2.8% over 5 years.
    The total you can now expect to pay is $54,200. However, after deducting the $7,000 scrap value of the car, that�s only $47,200 or only about $453 a month.
    That�s a difference of $87, or about 16% less each month. This lower amount could make all the difference to your TDSR, especially when you�re trying to take out a home loan.
    So what�s the catch? To enjoy the benefits of this scheme, you must have driven the car until it�s ready to be scrapped. That�s the only way you can be assured of having the money to pay off the minimum PARF rebate at the end of the loan. If, for some reason, you�re in need of money and need to get rid of the car earlier, you may not only face higher penalties for early repayment, you�ll still have to keep paying off the loan�s higher interest rate.

    Source from : http://blog.moneysmart.sg

    damn solid....thank you for the help. understand it more now.
  • 23 March 2016 - 02:23 PM
    NickTham

    Mine is papago too. So far so good I think. Only having my car close to 2 mths, i cant say much about papago's reliability. My front camera is hidden by the rear mirror from driver's end, so I cant see if it is working. My wife says it is recording so should be still working lolz...

    The front camera resolution is good, can see front vehicle car plate about 10 metres away. Rear camera has lower resolution, so need the car to get nearer to yours before the car plate can be captured nicely. Storage is about 2 days or so before it gets overwritten, but this largely depends how much you drive each day.

    Not much complaints about this brand, it is just a camera. Its usefulness only comes with u encounter an accident, which I hope it does not happen to fellow bros here.

    had the same car cam from my SE. using for 1month. so far so good.
    currently still trying to get it power up with my powerbank battery when car engine is switch off...
    got an extended mini usb cable to route out to powerbank, but cannot power up the camera. not sure why.
    read the papago cam manual, it say need on 1A to power it...hmmm...maybe i will go try with a lower output powerbank soon.
    else the cam is pretty much easy to use. simple basic function.

    Yes. You will also see a blue light indicator as well. Your RPM will also be above 1k.

    Typically, I will wait for the RPM to drop to below 1k before I drive off. The blue indicator will still be on though, so I drive light footing, keep my rpm as low as possible until the blue indicator is gone. To be honest, after blue indicator is gone, I also cannot rev hard because I would be in a traffic jam anyway.... Haha

    roughly for mine....it takes abt 1.5minutes to 2.5minutes for the blue light indicator to go off.. so probably can self gauge from here..see how long u want to wait.
    individual preference=)

    My bid is 46k hope this round can get

    all the best =) hope u get ur bid
  • 23 March 2016 - 02:55 PM
    Runforyourlife
    By the looks of it sure cannot Liao 41k with an hour to go lol
  • 23 March 2016 - 03:12 PM
    rider83

    By the looks of it sure cannot Liao 41k with an hour to go lol

    Gd Luck!!


  • 23 March 2016 - 04:08 PM
    Mz3SP0907

    By the looks of it sure cannot Liao 41k with an hour to go lol

    Bro you got coe?
  • 23 March 2016 - 04:27 PM
    Runforyourlife
    Yes sir. Amended at 3:57 to get it! Se say 10 working days!

    I suppose this weekend pay remaining hehe

    Bro you got coe?

    Huat ah!!!!!
  • 23 March 2016 - 04:34 PM
    Mz3SP0907

    Congrats!!! [drivingcar]

    Can Zoom Zoom liao... :yeah-im-not-drunk:

    Yes sir. Amended at 3:57 to get it! Se say 10 working days!

    I suppose this weekend pay remaining hehe
    Huat ah!!!!!


    Edited by Mz3SP0907, 23 March 2016 - 04:36 PM.

  • 23 March 2016 - 04:40 PM
    rider83

    Yes sir. Amended at 3:57 to get it! Se say 10 working days!

    I suppose this weekend pay remaining hehe
    Huat ah!!!!!

    Congratz and remember to drive safe!!

    Cheers :)


  • 23 March 2016 - 04:49 PM
    Runforyourlife
    Thanks all!!! You all think it's ok if request car delivery next Saturday?
    Not enough praise for bro mz3sp007 lol
  • 23 March 2016 - 04:51 PM
    Forexter

    Yes sir. Amended at 3:57 to get it! Se say 10 working days!

    I suppose this weekend pay remaining hehe
    Huat ah!!!!!

    Congrats!!! Enjoy!!!


  • 23 March 2016 - 04:52 PM
    Mz3SP0907

    Thanks all!!! You all think it's ok if request car delivery next Saturday?
    Not enough praise for bro mz3sp007 lol

    No harm asking...

    Hahaha... can owe me first...hehehe
  • 23 March 2016 - 04:55 PM
    Runforyourlife
    Thanks bro forexter

    Yea can owe la Kns need praise 9 others den can praise u. Hahahaha
  • 23 March 2016 - 04:55 PM
    rider83

    Thanks all!!! You all think it's ok if request car delivery next Saturday?
    Not enough praise for bro mz3sp007 lol

    SE will need some time to register car plate and IU number for you. Then again can also try to ask


  • 23 March 2016 - 05:01 PM
    Runforyourlife

    SE will need some time to register car plate and IU number for you. Then again can also try to ask

    Thanks bro. Dunno what is e typical time range cos if weekday need notify earlier to apply leave
  • 23 March 2016 - 05:04 PM
    rider83

    Thanks bro. Dunno what is e typical time range cos if weekday need notify earlier to apply leave

    Call your SE everyday!! Haha


  • 23 March 2016 - 05:07 PM
    dinosau4

    Thanks bro. Dunno what is e typical time range cos if weekday need notify earlier to apply leave

    weekend take car only on saturday early morning :a-m1212:


  • 23 March 2016 - 05:14 PM
    Holee

    had the same car cam from my SE. using for 1month. so far so good.
    currently still trying to get it power up with my powerbank battery when car engine is switch off...
    got an extended mini usb cable to route out to powerbank, but cannot power up the camera. not sure why.
    read the papago cam manual, it say need on 1A to power it...hmmm...maybe i will go try with a lower output powerbank soon.
    else the cam is pretty much easy to use. simple basic function.
    roughly for mine....it takes abt 1.5minutes to 2.5minutes for the blue light indicator to go off.. so probably can self gauge from here..see how long u want to wait.
    individual preference=)
    all the best =) hope u get ur bid

    You have to make sure the battery is supplying the correct output voltage and has current more than the camera.

    If the camera needs 12V, but your battery pack supplies 5V, then its not enough.� If the camera needs 5V but the battery pack supplies 12V, it might burn your camera.

    Putting the voltage aside, if the camera needs 1A to run and the battery pack can only output 0.5A, then it cant run too.


  • 23 March 2016 - 05:25 PM
    NickTham

    You have to make sure the battery is supplying the correct output voltage and has current more than the camera.

    If the camera needs 12V, but your battery pack supplies 5V, then its not enough. If the camera needs 5V but the battery pack supplies 12V, it might burn your camera.

    Putting the voltage aside, if the camera needs 1A to run and the battery pack can only output 0.5A, then it cant run too.

    noted for the voltage.... my power bank can output 2.1A... will it spoil like how the a higher voltage??
  • 23 March 2016 - 05:44 PM
    Holee

    noted for the voltage.... my power bank can output 2.1A... will it spoil like how the a higher voltage??

    The camera only draws enough current to power itself. Hence if the ouput is less than 1A, it doesnt power the camera. The output needs to be more than 1A.� Having a greater current output wont damage the camera.


  • 23 March 2016 - 05:53 PM
    Runforyourlife

    Call your SE everyday!! Haha

    Hahahaha Kns car haven come don't chut pattern lol

    weekend take car only on saturday early morning :a-m1212:

    Ooooo Okok. Need to go do e pps also. Maybe weekday better. Need take leave so must know in adv lo.
  • 23 March 2016 - 05:57 PM
    hatuah

    Thanks bro. Dunno what is e typical time range cos if weekday need notify earlier to apply leave

    Timing is quite flexible as long as your SE is in. I suggest that you take half day leave so that you don't have to rush when inspecting the cars for defects. You'll also have time to change rims, do PPS etc if you want to.


  • 23 March 2016 - 06:19 PM
    SimonSeah

    Thanks all!!! You all think it's ok if request car delivery next Saturday?
    Not enough praise for bro mz3sp007 lol

    Congrats.. First bidding, I'm out-bid by $1. second bidding, I'm outbid by close to $10k.
    Missed my Coe again!!!
  • 23 March 2016 - 06:36 PM
    firstimeowner

    Hi Bros,

    This is my first time going to own a car and I would like to find out/need advice from you guys. The question may be silly but hope can have kind soul to enlighten me.

    I went to Mazda Ubi�showroom 2 weeks ago. Quite like M3 but only Standard version is within my budget and intend to place a booking soon.

    I read from somewhere that�car buyer�can ask for freebies such as car mat and solar film. But other than that, what other freebies can I ask for?

    Honestly I like the fog light/lamp�and reverse camera that Deluxe version has, will I sound and look stupid in front of the salesperson if I am going to ask the salesperson whether I can have that 2 items? Or can I ask for further discount, if not?

    If I install fog light/lamp and reverse camera from elsewhere, will the warranty be void?

    Thank you in advance!


  • 23 March 2016 - 06:42 PM
    Mazdaspeed3

    Thanks all!!! You all think it's ok if request car delivery next Saturday?
    Not enough praise for bro mz3sp007 lol

    Congrats! Welcome to the club. After collect car can meet up with other mz3 kaki and they will poison u!
  • 23 March 2016 - 07:36 PM
    Runforyourlife

    Congrats.. First bidding, I'm out-bid by $1. second bidding, I'm outbid by close to $10k.
    Missed my Coe again!!!

    Time to complain to your se lol.

    Timing is quite flexible as long as your SE is in. I suggest that you take half day leave so that you don't have to rush when inspecting the cars for defects. You'll also have time to change rims, do PPS etc if you want to.

    Thanks bro. Only doing pps. But what is e range from winning the Coe bid?

    Congrats! Welcome to the club. After collect car can meet up with other mz3 kaki and they will poison u!

    Lol. Yayaya that's for sure!!! Dcb owes me smth also hahahaa

    Hi Bros,

    This is my first time going to own a car and I would like to find out/need advice from you guys. The question may be silly but hope can have kind soul to enlighten me.

    I went to Mazda Ubi showroom 2 weeks ago. Quite like M3 but only Standard version is within my budget and intend to place a booking soon.

    I read from somewhere that car buyer can ask for freebies such as car mat and solar film. But other than that, what other freebies can I ask for?

    Honestly I like the fog light/lamp and reverse camera that Deluxe version has, will I sound and look stupid in front of the salesperson if I am going to ask the salesperson whether I can have that 2 items? Or can I ask for further discount, if not?

    If I install fog light/lamp and reverse camera from elsewhere, will the warranty be void?

    Thank you in advance!

    Don't think can ah. I think must get deluxe. Try ask se to do overtrade or discount. Standard ppl usually already set aside additional budget to go outside and Zeng all the stuff deluxe have
  • 23 March 2016 - 08:28 PM
    dcb

    Wah kao, i dun see your BFF congratulating you leh. [furious]

    Yes sir. Amended at 3:57 to get it! Se say 10 working days!

    I suppose this weekend pay remaining hehe
    Huat ah!!!!!


  • 23 March 2016 - 08:53 PM
    Runforyourlife

    Wah kao, i dun see your BFF congratulating you leh. [furious]

    He only interested in bashing pps lol.
  • 23 March 2016 - 08:54 PM
    ahbear82

    had the same car cam from my SE. using for 1month. so far so good.
    currently still trying to get it power up with my powerbank battery when car engine is switch off...
    got an extended mini usb cable to route out to powerbank, but cannot power up the camera. not sure why.
    read the papago cam manual, it say need on 1A to power it...hmmm...maybe i will go try with a lower output powerbank soon.
    else the cam is pretty much easy to use. simple basic function.
    roughly for mine....it takes abt 1.5minutes to 2.5minutes for the blue light indicator to go off.. so probably can self gauge from here..see how long u want to wait.
    individual preference=)
    all the best =) hope u get ur bid

    How is your dash cam to power bank cable connection, can explain in details?

    I read somewhere that actually we can use cellink B Battery, the input of the battery connect to the car cigar port, then the output of the battery connect to the dash cam.

    This setup will enable the battery to be charge while the car is running and when the engine is turn off, the dash cam will use the battery power for parking mode. Will not void the car warranty as no hard wire to the car fuse.

    Any bros use this set up ? Can comment on how long it can survive in parking mode?


  • 23 March 2016 - 08:59 PM
    Runforyourlife

    How is your dash cam to power bank cable connection, can explain in details?

    I read somewhere that actually we can use cellink B Battery, the input of the battery connect to the car cigar port, then the output of the battery connect to the dash cam.
    This setup will enable the battery to be charge while the car is running and when the engine is turn off, the dash cam will use the battery power for parking mode. Will not void the car warranty as no hard wire to the car fuse.

    Any bros use this set up ? Can comment on how long it can survive in parking mode?

    I also interested. If got workshop recommend also good.
  • 23 March 2016 - 09:11 PM
    Mazdaspeed3

    He only interested in bashing pps lol.

    When u get your car will u be interested to meet us out? Will u look down on us? Because mostly 1.5L nia
  • 23 March 2016 - 09:17 PM
    Taeyu

    When u get your car will u be interested to meet us out? Will u look down on us? Because mostly 1.5L nia

    Really? One year never come forum nowadays 1.5L very sia suay?
  • 23 March 2016 - 09:33 PM
    hamttam
    Managed to get my COE today for Mazda 3 deluxe..
    Any folks interested to share tips and accessories? PM me I'll start a whatsapp group
  • 23 March 2016 - 09:35 PM
    rider83

    Hi Bros,

    This is my first time going to own a car and I would like to find out/need advice from you guys. The question may be silly but hope can have kind soul to enlighten me.

    I went to Mazda Ubi showroom 2 weeks ago. Quite like M3 but only Standard version is within my budget and intend to place a booking soon.

    I read from somewhere that car buyer can ask for freebies such as car mat and solar film. But other than that, what other freebies can I ask for?

    Honestly I like the fog light/lamp and reverse camera that Deluxe version has, will I sound and look stupid in front of the salesperson if I am going to ask the salesperson whether I can have that 2 items? Or can I ask for further discount, if not?

    If I install fog light/lamp and reverse camera from elsewhere, will the warranty be void?

    Thank you in advance!

    Hi future bro (lolz),

    I don't find your question silly. Car mat and solar film are pretty much the standard items, u are not supposed to ask for them, however you should check that they will give you.

    If I am not wrong, the key selling point for the deluxe is the moon roof and reverse camera. Perhaps you can negotiate to give up some not-so-useful-to-you freebies in exchange for the reverse camera?

    Just a suggestion above. Before you sign on the dotted line, u are the king. Try whatever you can.

    Good luck!
  • 23 March 2016 - 09:36 PM
    dcb

    He only interested in whatever you are doing la.� [knife]

    He only interested in bashing pps lol.


    There is a whatsapp group that is very happening.

    Managed to get my COE today for Mazda 3 deluxe..
    Any folks interested to share tips and accessories? PM me I'll start a whatsapp group


    Edited by dcb, 23 March 2016 - 09:37 PM.

  • 23 March 2016 - 09:43 PM
    rider83

    Managed to get my COE today for Mazda 3 deluxe..
    Any folks interested to share tips and accessories? PM me I'll start a whatsapp group

    For a start, what are you looking at?

    ~grinning~ ~rub hands~
  • 23 March 2016 - 09:43 PM
    THWONG

    Mine is papago too. So far so good I think. Only having my car close to 2 mths, i cant say much about papago's reliability. My front camera is hidden by the rear mirror from driver's end, so I cant see if it is working. My wife says it is recording so should be still working lolz...

    The front camera resolution is good, can see front vehicle car plate about 10 metres away. Rear camera has lower resolution, so need the car to get nearer to yours before the car plate can be captured nicely. Storage is about 2 days or so before it gets overwritten, but this largely depends how much you drive each day.

    Not much complaints about this brand, it is just a camera. Its usefulness only comes with u encounter an accident, which I hope it does not happen to fellow bros here.

    Bro, mine also papago. The very no standard menu provided shows that there is motion detection. Did u try? I on it, but it doesn't seems to record if I walk pass the car or move Ard the car. Any experience?
  • 23 March 2016 - 09:43 PM
    dcb

    Lai liao lor� :nosebleed:

    For a start, what are you looking at?

    ~grinning~ ~rub hands~


  • 23 March 2016 - 09:57 PM
    Mazdaspeed3

    For a start, what are you looking at?

    ~grinning~ ~rub hands~

    Rider83, name your SOP here for hamtam to have an idea. Hahaha
  • 23 March 2016 - 09:58 PM
    rider83

    Bro, mine also papago. The very no standard menu provided shows that there is motion detection. Did u try? I on it, but it doesn't seems to record if I walk pass the car or move Ard the car. Any experience?

    No experience on that bro. But I discovered something today.

    When I stop at traffic light, I shift gear to park and pull hand brakes, istop also kicks in, car camera stops recording.
  • 23 March 2016 - 09:59 PM
    dcb

    What camera are you using?

    No experience on that bro. But I discovered something today.

    When I stop at traffic light, I shift gear to park and pull hand brakes, istop also kicks in, car camera stops recording.


  • 23 March 2016 - 10:04 PM
    rider83

    Rider83, name your SOP here for hamtam to have an idea. Hahaha

    Ha! U want to sabo me to be the first poison ivy right?

    Your wish granted!

    Poison SOP

    One shot change all the stuffs. First change rims tyres, then suspensions, get body kit and lower car, swee liao go respray, PPS, change interior lights, tune ecu +50hp. Now then you can drive on the road

    What camera are you using?


    Papago bro

    Edited by rider83, 23 March 2016 - 10:05 PM.

  • 23 March 2016 - 10:25 PM
    Taeyu

    No experience on that bro. But I discovered something today.

    When I stop at traffic light, I shift gear to park and pull hand brakes, istop also kicks in, car camera stops recording.

    Does park and handbrake activate i-stop? I thought it was neutral + handbrake?
  • 23 March 2016 - 10:34 PM
    Runforyourlife

    When u get your car will u be interested to meet us out? Will u look down on us? Because mostly 1.5L nia


    Look down your head la! All mazdas are e same. If any mz6 ppl look down on us we boycott them!
  • 23 March 2016 - 10:35 PM
    Littledemon

    I am hoping to get my 3 deluxe after today's bidding...

    I was offered the free front+back camera, brand is Papago. I dont see much reviews, anyone has the free one from Mazda, can share which model it is?

    Seems like mainly hear blackvue and thinkware in the forums and online search, not sure if Papago is good/reliable?

    I use the Papago for few months now, do check the memory card storage size and your recording size, mine can only store 1 day of reocrding so if you need to a recording from 1-2 days back, it should have been replaced. So if there is any important recording, do download it within the day.


  • 23 March 2016 - 10:36 PM
    Runforyourlife
    WhatsApp grp lets go!!!
  • 23 March 2016 - 10:37 PM
    Mazdaspeed3

    Look down your head la! All mazdas are e same. If any mz6 ppl look down on us we boycott them!

    Lol. We scare have forte ma. Drive BMW come here look down on us.
  • 23 March 2016 - 10:40 PM
    Runforyourlife

    Lol. We scare have forte ma. Drive BMW come here look down on us.


    His 520i also not awfully expensive. A lot of us can afford, just whether wanna put our expenses in a car only lol.
  • 23 March 2016 - 10:43 PM
    Mazdaspeed3

    Ha! U want to sabo me to be the first poison ivy right?

    Your wish granted!

    Poison SOP

    One shot change all the stuffs. First change rims tyres, then suspensions, get body kit and lower car, swee liao go respray, PPS, change interior lights, tune ecu +50hp. Now then you can drive on the road

    Papago bro

    rider83. No need respary la. Waste money.

    Should go like this;

    Take car immediately go tyre tiam, change 18" rim + tyre, change to lower Spring or coil over, install bodykit, PPS, HID 6k on both headlight & fog light, change exhaust, remap the whole ECU, change 6pot front & 4pot rear, then meanwhile waiting for taobao loots like eye lid, pedals, scuff plate, etc.

    Swee bo?
  • 23 March 2016 - 10:45 PM
    Taeyu

    Lol. We scare have forte ma. Drive BMW come here look down on us.

    Got a BM bro here? Awww I can understand why he is here. Can't stand out in the BM group want to come here to show off? Why not go to QQ group? Go there be King!
  • 23 March 2016 - 10:56 PM
    rider83

    Does park and handbrake activate i-stop? I thought it was neutral + handbrake?

    Mine does at Park plus hand brake, istop will activate. If air con temp too low will deactivate instead.

    Didn't try neutral + handbrake though

    Look down your head la! All mazdas are e same. If any mz6 ppl look down on us we boycott them!

    Make love not war pls...

    rider83. No need respary la. Waste money.

    Should go like this;

    Take car immediately go tyre tiam, change 18" rim + tyre, change to lower Spring or coil over, install bodykit, PPS, HID 6k on both headlight & fog light, change exhaust, remap the whole ECU, change 6pot front & 4pot rear, then meanwhile waiting for taobao loots like eye lid, pedals, scuff plate, etc.

    Swee bo?

    Swee swee Bo Zao Zui!

    After 2 mths go weight reduction and remove everything! Haha
  • 23 March 2016 - 10:58 PM
    Mz3SP0907

    Got a BM bro here? Awww I can understand why he is here. Can't stand out in the BM group want to come here to show off? Why not go to QQ group? Go there be King!

    Alamak... ours is Mz3-BM... so mistaken for BM lah...
  • 23 March 2016 - 11:26 PM
    Helmetbox30
    Our car badge not Maserati meh? Oh oh.. It's masera.. No ti....
  • 23 March 2016 - 11:27 PM
    hamttam
    Wasn't aware there was a group, Just sent PM to dcb to be added.

    Am looking at simple stuff for now, window visor, sunshade, boot lip
  • 24 March 2016 - 12:10 AM
    Tansc

    Wa......Boyce, thanks a lot for your advice. Will take this down and negotiate with the SE next time I go.

    Mr Tan,

    I had the same experience!

    If I could do it again,
    I'll request for,
    Accessories -solar film, car camera (add reverse recording as well), sports pedal, car mat.
    More trade in value for the current car(ask for additional discount if you trade in your Altis)
    Servicing-up to 5 years or 100km (3yrs or 60km for more discount)
    Go for deluxe to save the hassle of doing additional stuff outside
    Try asking- 18" rims, body kit

    Truthfully, you have an advantage if you don't show your hand.
    Tell the salesperson you'd prefer to get the Altis because you're very comfortable with its reliability and having test driven it, you're extremely satisfied.
    Say they're offering you additional discount for trading in an Altis as well.
    The only reason why you'd get the Mazda is only if the salesperson gives you the right deal.

    Don't let the salesperson smoke you that he will take away the freebies. Someone else will offer the basic stuff

    If you paiseh to negotiate then GG!


  • 24 March 2016 - 12:19 AM
    Tansc

    I have one question about the free in-car camera.

    My SE told me it's by Philip, but a lot of bros here said theirs are papago......

    So they give two different brands of camera??

    By the way, I am thinking of asking the SE to give me other things or discount a bit of the car price, so that I could install blackvue camera through other workshop, possible to do that?


  • 24 March 2016 - 06:28 AM
    Mz3SP0907

    I have one question about the free in-car camera.

    My SE told me it's by Philip, but a lot of bros here said theirs are papago......

    So they give two different brands of camera??

    By the way, I am thinking of asking the SE to give me other things or discount a bit of the car price, so that I could install blackvue camera through other workshop, possible to do that?

    Hehehe... I think many bros here got Blaupunkt,Papago and Philips but I got iRoad T8
  • 24 March 2016 - 10:19 AM
    Runforyourlife

    after a while you will know this is a pest and there is the ignore function that you can use.

    IMH has BB now, and such clowns run amok somehow...hahaha

    Have a stupid qn, where is the ignore function?! HAHA


  • 24 March 2016 - 10:20 AM
    dcb

    You broke mine and Forte3737 achy breaky heart. Hate you!!!� [smash]

    sorry hor not into boiboi, menmen relationship HAHAHA.


    Congrats in advance Forte3737 , now get out of this thread to your 7 series thank you.


  • 24 March 2016 - 10:21 AM
    RadX

    Have a stupid qn, where is the ignore function?! HAHA

    click your profile.

    Edit it under 'ignore preferences'

    Search for the dimwits name, in this case 'you know who' the infidel is

    add it in and you will never see him ever :grin::grin:

    is like LOTR ring, invisible cloak.


  • 24 March 2016 - 10:22 AM
    dcb

    Can i have your number then? I dun wanna add Runforyourlife into my whatsapp group. Me and you better.

    Runforyourlife say 520 cheap car.i agree. Will change to 7 series soon


  • 24 March 2016 - 10:24 AM
    Mz3SP0907

    Can i have your number then? I dun wanna add Runforyourlife into my whatsapp group. Me and you better.

    Bro dcb... you huh???

    Like that you broke quite a few hearts liao
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