Thứ Tư, 4 tháng 1, 2017

Rupiah/Rupee at risk, SG/HK risk property bubble part 44

  • 10 March 2015 - 07:59 PM
    Throttle2

    Aiyo Russia from up hold until now down

    Ok I listen to you continue to hold

  • 15 March 2015 - 02:58 PM
    Wt_know
    can lowwwww ball?

    D leedon and Twin peak completed liao lol


  • 15 March 2015 - 03:27 PM
    Thaiyotakamli

    can lowwwww ball?

    make sure u bring hard cash in a suitcase during negotiation haha


  • 15 March 2015 - 03:30 PM
    Throttle2

    200 units for cherry pick


    Wah lau eh, siao liao, sme of these names have been in the market for quite a while already

    can lowwwww ball?


    Problem now is , even low ball buyers also don have.

    Muayhahahahahaha!
  • 15 March 2015 - 05:49 PM
    Voodooman

    to be honest, I really cannot understand the rationale a hdb owner can buy private property but not the other way. worse still, these hdb owner actually� stay in private property and rent out whole hdb unit.


    HDB lost its way long time ago, even till today, it is still lost.
  • 15 March 2015 - 06:24 PM
    Wt_know
    HDB find its way long time ago ... it's UP UP and AWAY
    those who cannot catch up ... too bad

    HDB lost its way long time ago, even till today, it is still lost.


  • 15 March 2015 - 08:22 PM
    Voodooman

    HDB find its way long time ago ... it's UP UP and AWAY
    those who cannot catch up ... too bad

    Someone is paying for HDB's way, certainly not me, I am probably a beneficiary. But....

    It is a joke how many people are using HDB to make money and not for own long term stay. When so many people buy HDB with the sole purpose of making money and not to start a family (as first roof over their head), I know HDB has lost it liow. I ask a junior recently why he geared up so much to buy a resale HDB, which I deem as excessively expensive given his limited pay package. He told me he will sell it 5 years later, so big loan is not an issue. Well, it might make sense for him but something is definitely amiss here.

    Even my single friend, who is nearing 35, and has a decent paying job is thinking of getting as big a HDB resale unit as possible, near the MRT so that she can rent it out, maybe she will lock up 1 room, I don't know but she is not likely to stay there for more than 1 week.

    Edited by Voodooman, 15 March 2015 - 08:23 PM.

  • 16 March 2015 - 10:17 AM
    Wyfitms

    nobody buying? i think all have flocked over to the next big thing in town

    market is dead? dunno why have to queue just to enter showflat... almost suffocated to death inside, really pai tan to be agent� [bigcry]

    any MCFer went to see?� [wave]

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    Edited by Wyfitms, 16 March 2015 - 10:23 AM.

  • 16 March 2015 - 10:51 AM
    Mockngbrd

    y u blanko their face


  • 16 March 2015 - 10:56 AM
    Kusje

    Someone is paying for HDB's way, certainly not me, I am probably a beneficiary. But....

    It is a joke how many people are using HDB to make money and not for own long term stay. When so many people buy HDB with the sole purpose of making money and not to start a family (as first roof over their head), I know HDB has lost it liow. I ask a junior recently why he geared up so much to buy a resale HDB, which I deem as excessively expensive given his limited pay package. He told me he will sell it 5 years later, so big loan is not an issue. Well, it might make sense for him but something is definitely amiss here.

    Even my single friend, who is nearing 35, and has a decent paying job is thinking of getting as big a HDB resale unit as possible, near the MRT so that she can rent it out, maybe she will lock up 1 room, I don't know but she is not likely to stay there for more than 1 week.

    This is still illegal. Better hope she doesn't have big mouth friends, colleagues or problems with her tenant otherwise they can just report her.

    If her tenants have problems with her neighbour, they can also report her.


    y u blanko their face

    He is afraid his competitors will use facial recognition software to identify and steal his clients. Agents these days are very high tech.


  • 16 March 2015 - 01:34 PM
    Throttle2
    Wah lau Singaporeans really like to whole family go showroom and have free lunch. Even if buy one smallUnit no need to bring uncle auntie ah ma ah gong go what........Wahahahaha.
  • 16 March 2015 - 03:28 PM
    Hosaybo
    As long as got transaction agent earn Liao. Dun care if up or down trend (meaning price dropping- it is the seller sweating not agent) MKT. What agent fear most is stagnant mkt.

    Huge crowd might not equate to good sales. Let the numbers do the talking. Sometimes people drop by cos got free gifts and free lunchand nothing better to do especially when it is near by.
  • 16 March 2015 - 04:23 PM
    Wt_know

    many go showroom kaypoh, touch here touch there, eat liao and cabut ... sales plunge ...

    mai spread fear ... mai spread fear ... lol

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    Edited by Wt_know, 16 March 2015 - 04:24 PM.

  • 16 March 2015 - 04:24 PM
    Kusje

    many go showroom kaypoh, touch here touch there, eat liao and cabut ... sales plunge ...

    mai spread fear ... mai spread fear ... lol

    I like to go showroom to look see sometimes but not on the opening day la. Don't like crowds....

    What free food do they serve?


  • 16 March 2015 - 05:08 PM
    Hosaybo
    Go show room can get some inspiration on ingenious way of making a small room look big.
  • 16 March 2015 - 05:23 PM
    Throttle2


    I like to go showroom to look see sometimes but not on the opening day la. Don't like crowds....

    What free food do they serve?

    Dont be like that lah, if go to showroom must confirm buy , otherwise dont go.
    Same for car showroom.

    What the heck , if you go shopping in orchard road shopping ctr plse make sure you buy something.
    Otherwise dont go
    Wahahaha.

    Showroom crowded but sales plunge, how to explain leh.....
    Muayhahshaha

    Edited by Throttle2, 16 March 2015 - 05:25 PM.

  • 16 March 2015 - 06:33 PM
    Hosaybo
    U know why lucky draw or free gift is popular? They need crowd to come to have a sense of popularity. Give an impression it is hot. Like go MKT buy food, the long queue must be good.
  • 16 March 2015 - 07:01 PM
    Porker

    Wah lau Singaporeans really like to whole family go showroom and have free lunch. Even if buy one smallUnit no need to bring uncle auntie ah ma ah gong go what........Wahahahaha.

    Singaporeans also like to visit car showroom drink free coffee muayhahahaha

    Sorry I'm just posting this as a dig to my friend whom I shall not name� :ph34r:[laugh]


  • 16 March 2015 - 08:06 PM
    Throttle2


    Singaporeans also like to visit car showroom drink free coffee muayhahahaha

    Sorry I'm just posting this as a dig to my friend whom I shall not name� :ph34r:[laugh]


    But expert agents like to think that everyone who walks into showroom/showflat will buy a unit, including the 15yr old kid who came with his uncle.

    Muayhahahahahahaha
  • 16 March 2015 - 10:19 PM
    Blackyv

    nobody buying? i think all have flocked over to the next big thing in town

    market is dead? dunno why have to queue just to enter showflat... almost suffocated to death inside, really pai tan to be agent� [bigcry]

    any MCFer went to see?� [wave]


    This is just a "new toilet bowl" phenomenon ... Hehehe
  • 17 March 2015 - 05:49 AM
    Jamesc

    Singaporeans also like to visit car showroom drink free coffee muayhahahaha

    Sorry I'm just posting this as a dig to my friend whom I shall not name� :ph34r:[laugh]

    Wouldn't it be funny if he went for a free coffee

    saw a car he couldn't resist and bought it?

    That would be a very expensive cup of coffee.

    :D


  • 17 March 2015 - 09:32 AM
    Wyfitms

    y u blanko their face

    protect their privacy

    wait later their friends all know they are hidden dragons can afford 1350 psf yishun condo,�

    end up approaching them to borrow money� :D


    many go showroom kaypoh, touch here touch there, eat liao and cabut ... sales plunge ...

    mai spread fear ... mai spread fear ... lol

    haha sales one month down, one month up

    compare with one year ago down

    compare with one month ago up

    compare with 10 yrs ago also up

    gotta love statistics� [thumbsup]


  • 17 March 2015 - 10:51 AM
    Enye


    Wouldn't it be funny if he went for a free coffee

    saw a car he couldn't resist and bought it?

    That would be a very expensive cup of coffee.

    :D

    I just bought a car this way

    And it ain't funny

    Staying away from condo showrooms for now

  • 17 March 2015 - 08:42 PM
    Enye

    i

    Yah lah, Chucky, i told you already, he has $700k idling.
    You think i bluffing meh?


    One sold his investment property and waiting for firesale everyday shouting full cash

    Another liquidated his stocks and has 9k monthly rental income

    Both gang up to suan debt ridden peasant

    This then is really knn

  • 19 March 2015 - 10:49 AM
    Jamesc

    direction is clear! DOWN (by 1% for 2015)� [laugh]

    ok lah

    got cheap deal

    symphony facing industrial building want or not? super cheap at $1,100 psf

    I realy like the sound of Symphony

    but $1,100 is not music to my ears.

    :D


  • 19 March 2015 - 11:18 AM
    Ktglfc

    What's the big dear?

    He spend�$15.8 million but look at how much publicity he got.

    I think its worth it.

    Anyway I always spend my $2 in his shops and have you seen the queues?

    Everybody lining up to hand their $2 to him. Non stop queue from opening to closing.

    :D

    What is $15.8 mil to a billionaire? :D

    To him, probably just spare change niah :D

    To me, HUGE !! Can't even dare to dream of this ... :D


  • 19 March 2015 - 11:29 AM
    Wyfitms

    investors will love such jap rich men

    $1.5m per room for westin?

    blackrock must have laughed till pants dropped


    What's the big dear?

    He spend�$15.8 million but look at how much publicity he got.

    I think its worth it.

    Anyway I always spend my $2 in his shops and have you seen the queues?

    Everybody lining up to hand their $2 to him. Non stop queue from opening to closing.

    :D

    hmm, deal isnt as straightforward as it seems...

    looking at the picture and realizing he sold the unit at well below value to yun nam boss...�


  • 19 March 2015 - 12:18 PM
    Bismarck

    direction is clear! DOWN (by 1% for 2015)� [laugh]

    ok lah

    got cheap deal

    symphony facing industrial building want or not? super cheap at $1,100 psf

    Frankly speaking it doesnt make sense that private condos in Yishun can sell more than $1100 when prices of HDBs in Yishun, together with woodlands and Sembawang are the lowest in Singapore.�

    And look at those old condos like lilydale, orchid park, Emerald, Sapphire, their rental have fallen so badly that it is obvious when supply is abundant, economy is stagnant, condos in not so good location will suffer the most.�


  • 19 March 2015 - 01:01 PM
    Wyfitms

    Frankly speaking it doesnt make sense that private condos in Yishun can sell more than $1100 when prices of HDBs in Yishun, together with woodlands and Sembawang are the lowest in Singapore.�

    And look at those old condos like lilydale, orchid park, Emerald, Sapphire, their rental have fallen so badly that it is obvious when supply is abundant, economy is stagnant, condos in not so good location will suffer the most.�

    it doesnt matter that the market doesnt make sense

    cos the market can remain irrational longer than an investor can remain solvent

    hence if no urgent need to buy then wait

    however it seems that there are a lot of people in SG with a very urgent need to buy� [:)]


  • 19 March 2015 - 01:03 PM
    Spring

    What is $15.8 mil to a billionaire? :D

    To him, probably just spare change niah :D

    To me, HUGE !! Can't even dare to dream of this ...

    For me, if I lose $15,800 I already cannot eat, cannot sleep.......

    and when I told this to my colleague he told me if he lose $1,580, he would scrimp on his meals to make up the loss :D


  • 19 March 2015 - 01:10 PM
    Jamesc

    For me, if I lose $15,800 I already cannot eat, cannot sleep.......

    and when I told this to my colleague he told me if he lose $1,580, he would scrimp on his meals to make up the loss :D

    If $158 fall out of my wallet and lost I feel heart pain already.

    :D


  • 19 March 2015 - 01:16 PM
    Bismarck


    it doesnt matter that the market doesnt make sense

    cos the market can remain irrational longer than an investor can remain solvent

    hence if no urgent need to buy then wait

    however it seems that there are a lot of people in SG with a very urgent need to buy� [:)]


    To me there is always some way to explain things that doesn't make sense. Whether it is logical or not remain to be seen. Surely there is a reason or two why there is discrepancy in price and demand.
  • 19 March 2015 - 01:18 PM
    Wt_know

    buy toto $15.80 and bo tio already !#!$!$!%!$ ... hehe


    Edited by Wt_know, 19 March 2015 - 01:18 PM.

  • 19 March 2015 - 01:28 PM
    Jp66

    because these people hate to see $ in their bank :D

    it doesnt matter that the market doesnt make sense

    cos the market can remain irrational longer than an investor can remain solvent

    hence if no urgent need to buy then wait

    however it seems that there are a lot of people in SG with a very urgent need to buy� [:)]


  • 19 March 2015 - 01:34 PM
    Wyfitms

    To me there is always some way to explain things that doesn't make sense. Whether it is logical or not remain to be seen. Surely there is a reason or two why there is discrepancy in price and demand.

    reasons:

    - started by HDB - stopped supply to zero for 3 yrs when converted to BTO scheme

    - increase ppl coming to SG

    - pressure on HDB resale causing price to go up

    - HDB happily mark BTO to 'market' thereby continuing the price explosion

    - hdb happily introduced DBSS thereby pushing EC and condo price further up

    - after all this, suburban price exploded too. impact not so obvious as developers reduce average area of units

    - for past 7 yrs, people got used to condos selling out within a month. This is highly unusual. when mkt is in equil, it would normally take a year to 2 yrs to sell out. Hence now when sales rate drop, ppl suddenly start screaming the market is dead. unfortunately this is not so. thanks to HDB, u will continue to see the crazy price for a while longer before mkt can start adjusting

    - note that prime is out of the above equation, as the craziness is all caused by HDB thereby only affecting the public and EC and suburban condo market only. Prime is still very much affected by broader investment climate


  • 19 March 2015 - 01:35 PM
    Spring

    If $158 fall out of my wallet and lost I feel heart pain already.

    :D

    Haha!!�Good one [thumbsup]

    Seriously though, shows the disparity between the ultra rich and the man in the street.

    $15.8mil is no small change for 99% of us who will never be able to see this kind of money in our whole lives!!


  • 19 March 2015 - 01:36 PM
    Wyfitms

    because these people hate to see $ in their bank :D

    �that is quite true

    many can't even stand to see $50k in bank

    die die must use it all to buy a JB or BKK or manila condo


    Haha!!�Good one [thumbsup]

    Seriously though, shows the disparity between the ultra rich and the man in the street.

    $15.8mil is no small change for 99% of us who will never be able to see this kind of money in our whole lives!!

    all relative.

    15m to a billionaire is like a few hundred to us

    a few hundred to us is like a year's wages to someone in 3rd world

    so most impt is to be happy and stress free from financial burden


  • 19 March 2015 - 02:03 PM
    Bismarck

    reasons:

    - started by HDB - stopped supply to zero for 3 yrs when converted to BTO scheme

    - increase ppl coming to SG

    - pressure on HDB resale causing price to go up

    - HDB happily mark BTO to 'market' thereby continuing the price explosion

    - hdb happily introduced DBSS thereby pushing EC and condo price further up

    - after all this, suburban price exploded too. impact not so obvious as developers reduce average area of units

    - for past 7 yrs, people got used to condos selling out within a month. This is highly unusual. when mkt is in equil, it would normally take a year to 2 yrs to sell out. Hence now when sales rate drop, ppl suddenly start screaming the market is dead. unfortunately this is not so. thanks to HDB, u will continue to see the crazy price for a while longer before mkt can start adjusting

    - note that prime is out of the above equation, as the craziness is all caused by HDB thereby only affecting the public and EC and suburban condo market only. Prime is still very much affected by broader investment climate

    Off topic, do you think LKY's home in Oxley should be enbloc? Since it is sitting on prime land.�


    Edited by Bismarck, 19 March 2015 - 02:03 PM.

  • 19 March 2015 - 02:05 PM
    Wt_know

    MBT single handedly push HDB to no $500k no talk and spur the entire property market ...

    he should have been promoted instead lose his job ... muahahaha

    reasons:

    - started by HDB - stopped supply to zero for 3 yrs when converted to BTO scheme

    - increase ppl coming to SG

    - pressure on HDB resale causing price to go up

    - HDB happily mark BTO to 'market' thereby continuing the price explosion

    - hdb happily introduced DBSS thereby pushing EC and condo price further up

    - after all this, suburban price exploded too. impact not so obvious as developers reduce average area of units

    - for past 7 yrs, people got used to condos selling out within a month. This is highly unusual. when mkt is in equil, it would normally take a year to 2 yrs to sell out. Hence now when sales rate drop, ppl suddenly start screaming the market is dead. unfortunately this is not so. thanks to HDB, u will continue to see the crazy price for a while longer before mkt can start adjusting

    - note that prime is out of the above equation, as the craziness is all caused by HDB thereby only affecting the public and EC and suburban condo market only. Prime is still very much affected by broader investment climate


  • 19 March 2015 - 02:14 PM
    Wyfitms

    MBT single handedly push HDB to no $500k no talk and spur the entire property market ...

    he should have been promoted instead lose his job ... muahahaha

    how do u know he has been demoted?

    maybe he is now making even more money than as the MND ministar?�


    Off topic, do you think LKY's home in Oxley should be enbloc? Since it is sitting on prime land.�

    it is on prime land

    but whether en bloc or not depends on the market conditions right?

    usually it happens at the beginning for the bull run when the land price still give the developer some more meat to eat and landowner also happy to sell at

    now, developer only want to lowball land price and landowner not too willing to let go for cheap

    so unlikely to have en bloc anytime soon


  • 19 March 2015 - 02:25 PM
    Bismarck


    how do u know he has been demoted?

    maybe he is now making even more money than as the MND ministar?�


    it is on prime land

    but whether en bloc or not depends on the market conditions right?

    usually it happens at the beginning for the bull run when the land price still give the developer some more meat to eat and landowner also happy to sell at

    now, developer only want to lowball land price and landowner not too willing to let go for cheap


    Quite obvious there will be demand for his house unless government convert into conservation.
    so unlikely to have en bloc anytime soon


  • 19 March 2015 - 02:25 PM
    Enye
    Knn today the kopi shop auntie overcharged me 10cts for my kopi

    Tonight have to go without dinner liao

  • 19 March 2015 - 02:48 PM
    Wt_know

    please don't load up porky boot with coins to lta leh ... wait i see your porky in stomp ... lol

    Its ok lah. 10cts is still not a lot of money.
    I buy yongtaufoo kena shortchanged 20cts
    Now that is a real headache.
    Now stressed over how to pay my 380000cts roadtax....


    Edited by Wt_know, 19 March 2015 - 02:49 PM.

  • 19 March 2015 - 02:55 PM
    Nicfoo

    If $158 fall out of my wallet and lost I feel heart pain already.

    :D

    $15.80 will make me think the whole week restlessly already, and to stop others going lower, $1.58 is my limit, I will heart pain for a day...LOL

    Whoever come in say 15 cents, I give it to him...LOL


    Edited by Nicfoo, 19 March 2015 - 02:56 PM.

  • 19 March 2015 - 02:58 PM
    Nicfoo

    buy toto $15.80 and bo tio already !#!$!$!%!$ ... hehe

    Sorry bro, no cents in buying toto now, you either buy $15 or you buy $16, but the bo tio remains unchanged...LOL


  • 19 March 2015 - 03:00 PM
    Throttle2

    please don't load up porky boot with coins to lta leh ... wait i see your porky in stomp ... lol


    Thats nothing lah

    I am most stressed now becos agents keep on asking me if i want to buy property.
    Keep on telling me that price will go up yet they keep offering discounts .
    Every place is good value, every place has potential, every place bao jiak

    KNN in dreamland
  • 19 March 2015 - 03:17 PM
    Leinad8919


    I realy like the sound of Symphony

    but $1,100 is not music to my ears.

    :D


    Why can't I praise you again? Your input never fail to amuse me. The error says I cannot praise you again even I am turning les.

    investors will love such jap rich men

    $1.5m per room for westin?

    blackrock must have laughed till pants dropped


    hmm, deal isnt as straightforward as it seems...

    looking at the picture and realizing he sold the unit at well below value to yun nam boss...�


    I strongly believe the Yun Nam boss promises the Jap a head full of hairs as a package deal.

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  • 19 March 2015 - 03:29 PM
    Jamesc

    Why can't I praise you again? Your input never fail to amuse me. The error says I cannot praise you again even I am turning les.

    I strongly believe the Yun Nam boss promises the Jap a head full of hairs as a package deal.

    I can praise you for your nice post. [thumbsup]

    Here is 5 points.

    :D


  • 19 March 2015 - 03:34 PM
    Jamesc

    Why can't I praise you again? Your input never fail to amuse me. The error says I cannot praise you again even I am turning les.

    Please don't turn les.

    I am very scared people here say I post here and corrupt people

    and influence them with my lifestyle to turn them into les.

    Also and more importantly I want all the les to myself

    and don't want any competition.

    :D


  • 19 March 2015 - 03:40 PM
    Jamesc

    Haha like this everybody buy 4D lah.

    1580

    0158

    0015

    0001

    :D


  • 19 March 2015 - 03:53 PM
    Leinad8919


    Please don't turn les.

    I am very scared people here say I post here and corrupt people

    and influence them with my lifestyle to turn them into les.

    Also and more importantly I want all the les to myself

    and don't want any competition.

    :D


    So you are the very few who can see les is more
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