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ALL consolidated SMRT/NEL/KTM simisai BREAKDOWNS here! part 4

  • 09 March 2015 - 06:56 PM
    Vid

    more to come? really? ..... lol

    Rofl.gifRofl.gifRofl.gif [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]


  • 09 March 2015 - 07:16 PM
    Ktglfc

    more to come? really? ..... lol

    Understand it is due to fire at electrical room at Senja station...

    Well... got to find out whether it is due to sabotage or equipment failure that resulted in overheating and then fire..

    Should expect more explanations on this....


  • 09 March 2015 - 07:23 PM
    Nicfoo

    It is either the Transport Minster sway, or the CEO of SMRT sibey sway...LOL


  • 09 March 2015 - 07:39 PM
    Kyrios

    Lai lai PAP..fall in here... [:p]47ronin2.jpg


  • 09 March 2015 - 07:41 PM
    Fcw75
    I think at this rate, LTY have up numerous stab wounds on his body liao.
  • 09 March 2015 - 07:42 PM
    Wt_know
    shit happen for a reason
    1 time may be sway
    2 times may be sibei sway
    many many times definitely chronic problems

    It is either the Transport Minster sway, or the CEO of SMRT sibey sway...LOL


    Edited by Wt_know, 09 March 2015 - 07:43 PM.

  • 09 March 2015 - 08:28 PM
    Eviilusion



    if can tahan 15 years, usually is go to work close one eye, play taiji and wait for end of the day, unless they ask him to use cable tie, and he use masking tape, so tio ask to go...LOL

    dont say until like that lar. I read thru all the posting and others who are still working there confirmed about the reduction of manpower and the crew being replaced by foreigners (cheaper with dubious qualification). In the end SG lang is the one who suffered....loss of job and getting frequent train breakdowns. Management will always blame those at the bottom end of the food chain. Dont worry, there are more things that will breakdown if the gov insist on their GDP at all cost!
  • 09 March 2015 - 09:13 PM
    Watwheels

    shit happen for a reason
    1 time may be sway
    2 times may be sibei sway
    many many times definitely chronic problems

    No no no...

    1 time is once every 50years event.

    2 times is every mothers' sons' fault.

    3 times is the that char bor Saw's fault.

    But never minister's fault coz he just parachute and landed on this job of his.


  • 09 March 2015 - 09:14 PM
    Wt_know
    MORE TO COME ...

    jit tong cheng ....
  • 09 March 2015 - 09:15 PM
    Vid

    It is either the Transport Minster sway, or the CEO of SMRT sibey sway...LOL

    If I'm paid millions of dollars to be sway... hey, I don't mind [laugh] [laugh]


  • 09 March 2015 - 09:18 PM
    Nicfoo

    shit happen for a reason
    1 time may be sway
    2 times may be sibei sway
    many many times definitely chronic problems

    This cannot be an isolated problem, neither is it a current problem, �it's all accumulated until �the system cannot take it. Who sway who tio, is just happen to be there at the wrong time...LOL


  • 09 March 2015 - 09:20 PM
    Nicfoo

    dont say until like that lar. I read thru all the posting and others who are still working there confirmed about the reduction of manpower and the crew being replaced by foreigners (cheaper with dubious qualification). In the end SG lang is the one who suffered....loss of job and getting frequent train breakdowns. Management will always blame those at the bottom end of the food chain. Dont worry, there are more things that will breakdown if the gov insist on their GDP at all cost!

    SMRT is not a service provider, it is a profit organization, bottom line is everything to them...LOL


  • 09 March 2015 - 09:22 PM
    Watwheels

    If I'm paid millions of dollars to be sway... hey, I don't mind [laugh] [laugh]

    I dun think being paid in millions is suay in anyway. The one fixing the multiple problems on the ground but being paid peanuts. Now, that's suay.


  • 09 March 2015 - 09:22 PM
    Nicfoo

    If I'm paid millions of dollars to be sway... hey, I don't mind [laugh] [laugh]

    That is because you are not paid millions yet, when you are paid millions, you lost millions when you are sway you know...LOL [laugh]


  • 09 March 2015 - 09:24 PM
    Vid

    I dun think being paid in millions is suay in anyway. The one fixing the multiple problems on the ground but being paid peanuts. Now, that's suay.

    The bottom is just the same as all other jobs. Everybody is level. It's the top that you can find the big difference. Incompetence yet paid huge salary... now that's disgusting.


  • 09 March 2015 - 09:25 PM
    Vid

    That is because you are not paid millions yet, when you are paid millions, you lost millions when you are sway you know...LOL [laugh]

    ????You don't bluff. I don't see any of our ministers sway in any way. The money they get is like a shield to help them become immune to all the scoldings from the public.


  • 09 March 2015 - 09:29 PM
    Watwheels

    The bottom is just the same as all other jobs. Everybody is level. It's the top that you can find the big difference. Incompetence yet paid huge salary... now that's disgusting.

    Agree to some point. If the top is also the founder who did the hard work to lay the foundations for things to work, he/she deserves the high pay. Not some dude who knows nothing about the trains get to sit on top and give command like his old job. Incompetence is the person who is train in his field and yet cannot deliver. In this case the knowledge and skills aren't even relevant. Where got chance to be incompetent?


  • 09 March 2015 - 09:33 PM
    13177
    How come they always like to breakdown during the peak hours? Now even LRT also can be disrupted! Totally lose confidence in the public transport here!
  • 09 March 2015 - 09:36 PM
    Nicfoo

    ????You don't bluff. I don't see any of our ministers sway in any way. The money they get is like a shield to help them become immune to all the scoldings from the public.

    ?????? I confirm no bluff you. You remember Raymond Lim, the last Transport Minister? Took over Transportation only political career finish, the first sway Minister. Tuck Yew has until next election only to follow RL, we should wait and see if he can outlast RL...LOL

    The money is like vaccination mah, take it and will ????....LOL [laugh]


    Edited by Nicfoo, 09 March 2015 - 09:38 PM.

  • 09 March 2015 - 09:38 PM
    Watwheels

    How come they always like to breakdown during the peak hours? Now even LRT also can be disrupted! Totally lose confidence in the public transport here!

    Overworked lor.

    In your office also have mah. When there are lots of work to be done, ppl become overworked and take MC. LoL...


  • 09 March 2015 - 09:39 PM
    Neost


    Understand it is due to fire at electrical room at Senja station...
    Well... got to find out whether it is due to sabotage or equipment failure that resulted in overheating and then fire..

    Should expect more explanations on this....


    Heard is the circuit breakers that caught fire. Should go check where these circuit breakers came from. Original or otherwise.
  • 09 March 2015 - 09:42 PM
    Watwheels

    Heard is the circuit breakers that caught fire. Should go check where these circuit breakers came from. Original or otherwise.

    It's odd right or not? Circuit breakers are suppose to trip if overloading occurs or whatever but it caught fire instead.


  • 09 March 2015 - 09:48 PM
    13177


    Overworked lor.

    In your office also have mah. When there are lots of work to be done, ppl become overworked and take MC. LoL...

    But how come must breakdown during peak hours? Even overworked can breakdown during off-peak hours mah. Lol. Nowadays after so tired from work liao, want to go home fast and smoothly, but always happened train system disrupted!
  • 09 March 2015 - 09:48 PM
    Bacteria83

    Dont need to engage the bomoh from malaysia i also know MORE TO COME� :D

    missing-malaysian-airlines-flight-bomoh-


  • 09 March 2015 - 09:53 PM
    Watwheels

    But how come must breakdown during peak hours? Even overworked can breakdown during off-peak hours mah. Lol. Nowadays after so tired from work liao, want to go home fast and smoothly, but always happened train system disrupted!

    Becoz breakdown during off-peak hour is not news worthy. There's not enough ppl to make it chaotic enough. LoL...


    Edited by Watwheels, 09 March 2015 - 09:53 PM.

  • 09 March 2015 - 09:55 PM
    Eviilusion



    SMRT is not a service provider, it is a profit organization, bottom line is everything to them...LOL

    kns...pay peanuts get monkeys......pay millions also still get monkeys.....
  • 09 March 2015 - 10:39 PM
    Watwheels

  • 10 March 2015 - 10:12 AM
    Kusje

    more to come? really? ..... lol

    At least they don't lie!


  • 10 March 2015 - 10:15 AM
    Jayy25

    well.... this bukit panjang LRT is like a lemon always break down from time to time....

    before social media was popular, it break down like nobody business.

    anyway, i am very surprise Punggol and Sengkang LRT still doing ok, well yet to break down.....


  • 10 March 2015 - 10:30 AM
    Enye
    Wah lao.... Got free bus rides still complain

  • 10 March 2015 - 01:49 PM
    Wt_know

    MCF standard ... what's the top end? $2.5M-$3M?

    "I think I should spend it as I wish. Nothing wrong with that.The laymen can say what they want. But the truth of the matter is that the package [... $1.85 million in 2010...] is scrutinised, benchmarked to the job that I do - what is required of a CEO like me - and the pay is not top-end. It's not top-end."

    - Saw Phaik Hwa


  • 10 March 2015 - 03:08 PM
    Watwheels

    Simi Form 2? Simi form 4?

    https://gallery.prof...rcuit-breakers/

    3 phase circuit breakers Form 2

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    form 4

    158.s.png


  • 10 March 2015 - 03:11 PM
    RH1667

    https://gallery.prof...rcuit-breakers/

    3 phase circuit breakers Form 2

    157.s.png

    form 4

    158.s.png

    Oh....chim!

    So which one should be used for the LRT?

    or did they use the " cheaper�option " instead?


  • 10 March 2015 - 03:17 PM
    Mustank


    Oh....chim!
    So which one should be used for the LRT?
    or did they use the " cheaper�option " instead?


    The one guy one seems to be cheaper [grin]
    Don't take word for it, the only tech I know is. It to buy 110v stuff from Amazon [laugh]
  • 10 March 2015 - 03:21 PM
    Watwheels

    Oh....chim!

    So which one should be used for the LRT?

    or did they use the " cheaper�option " instead?

    In industrial power most likely LRT is using 3phase (form 2), large voltage and current.

    Those home use power is single phase(form 4). Or both can use?

    I also not sure lah coz I study basic only.


    Edited by Watwheels, 10 March 2015 - 03:23 PM.

  • 10 March 2015 - 03:22 PM
    Strat

    Oh....chim!

    So which one should be used for the LRT?

    or did they use the " cheaper�option " instead?

    maybe they buy from taobao or qoo10?


  • 10 March 2015 - 03:30 PM
    Othello

    how come vivian releasing news?

    vivian is holland-bukit timah grc not bukit panjang mp leh

    changed since last election

    Holland Bukit Panjang Town Council
  • 10 March 2015 - 03:31 PM
    Kb27


    his fault? no way!

    If he can't make it better, then he's just as useless.

    Companies kick out CEO if they messed up and reward those who turn it around.

    But of cuz, smrt is different.

    It's about connection to become CEO and not the best.


  • 10 March 2015 - 03:41 PM
    Tohto

    well.... this bukit panjang LRT is like a lemon always break down from time to time....

    before social media was popular, it break down like nobody business.

    anyway, i am very surprise Punggol and Sengkang LRT still doing ok, well yet to break down.....

    Touch wood..... [sweatdrop][sweatdrop]

    Better don't break down...my kids are using it for traveling to school...


  • 10 March 2015 - 03:52 PM
    Tohto

    MCF standard ... what's the top end? $2.5M-$3M?

    Check with T2


    If he can't make it better, then he's just as useless.

    Companies kick out CEO if they messed up and reward those who turn it around.

    But of cuz, smrt is different.

    It's about connection to become CEO and not the best.

    A CEO that parachute from the sky, had no background experience on public transport operation..

    How can he do a good job [shakehead][shakehead]


  • 10 March 2015 - 04:13 PM
    keanie


    A CEO that parachute from the sky, had no background experience on public transport operation..
    How can he do a good job [shakehead][shakehead]


    It's high time, LHL get technocrat ppl to run the mass transportation system instead of giving d job to a paper general before it become a complete disaster.
  • 10 March 2015 - 07:05 PM
    Wt_know
    hearsay, if everyone choose to board the train at the same time (to go to work and to go home), there is nothing much we can do ...
  • 10 March 2015 - 07:36 PM
    Kyrios

    Wonder what will be the gahmen's response if Workers Party instead of SMRT or Lui's LTA were to run the MRT system in the first place..with all the current breakdowns...i think already sued or blasted to death in Parliament...

    New laws or bills�will be enacted right away to 'prevent' such breakdown occurrences

    I could be wrong but I guess that's just double standards..


  • 10 March 2015 - 07:54 PM
    Bacteria83

    hearsay, if everyone choose to board the train at the same time (to go to work and to go home), there is nothing much we can do ...


    Think they already have a solution human erp system to control human traffic. Arbo issue monthly CTB certificate To board. No need pay me one million. 100k sgd can liao.
  • 10 March 2015 - 08:32 PM
    13177


    Of course they can handle, just that all ganna squeeze like sardines ...
    They never say handle with no breakdowns... so, be prepare for more breakdowns lor :D

    This is really sucks.
  • 10 March 2015 - 09:15 PM
    Nicfoo

    hearsay, if everyone choose to board the train at the same time (to go to work and to go home), there is nothing much we can do ...

    They should,

    1) just issue every single person a time slot to take MRT, like that not everyone will board the train at the same time.

    2) Change the working hours and school hours, maybe all break into 3 shifts.

    3) continue to talk cock when train breaks down again...LOL


  • 10 March 2015 - 09:21 PM
    Nicfoo

    Wonder what will be the gahmen's response if Workers Party instead of SMRT or Lui's LTA were to run the MRT system in the first place..with all the current breakdowns...i think already sued or blasted to death in Parliament...

    New laws or bills�will be enacted right away to 'prevent' such breakdown occurrences

    I could be wrong but I guess that's just double standards..

    No need to guess, I reinforce the thought...LOL

    But there will be no chance for WP to advance till 2015, they would be asked to cut stomach or sued till "pok" when cable tie was used...LOL

    Not acceptable, this is not acceptable, but since is done by our own people, let's just find some excuse to hide it...LOL [laugh]


  • 10 March 2015 - 09:28 PM
    Neutrino

    At the time of completion of the MRT in -1989?? a full set of Maintenance Manuals for each item of the MRT would have been produced and handed over from the Contractors to the Owners.

    I'd like to know if those Maintenance Procedures have been followed.

    If not why not?

    If they have been followed then the original contractors must bear some responsibility for failures.


  • 10 March 2015 - 09:52 PM
    Philipkee
    I give my two cents.

    What happened here is everyone is running on auto pilot. If it was working, why change anything? When saw took over, few breakdowns so she took it for granted maintenance is not so crucial.

    For Desmond, I dunno y but I kinda feel he knows what must be done but his hands are tied. This to me is unacceptable because he is the CEO after all.

    I think the solution here is simple. Desmond must be empowered to do what he thinks is the best without hindrance. If he succeeds, he deserves his pay. He fails, off he goes. But the crux is he must be eempowered, not shackled by investors. The reason why I feel he is not sacked is because the higher ups know his constraints and getting another person would not make a difference. His competence is not in question.
  • 10 March 2015 - 09:57 PM
    Nicfoo

    At the time of completion of the MRT in -1989?? a full set of Maintenance Manuals for each item of the MRT would have been produced and handed over from the Contractors to the Owners.

    I'd like to know if those Maintenance Procedures have been followed.

    If not why not?

    If they have been followed then the original contractors must bear some responsibility for failures.

    By this time, SMRT or LTA would have leave no stone unturned, be it train supplier, track installer, contractor, whoever mother father son, if ever there is a 1% chance that they are the cause, they would have being sued already.

    Most likely all facts pointed to overloading and/or poor maintenance, but people cannot admit mistakes, so the best is to say, if everyone board the train at the same time, there is nothing can do...LOL


  • 10 March 2015 - 10:00 PM
    Watwheels

    At the time of completion of the MRT in -1989?? a full set of Maintenance Manuals for each item of the MRT would have been produced and handed over from the Contractors to the Owners.

    I'd like to know if those Maintenance Procedures have been followed.

    If not why not?

    If they have been followed then the original contractors must bear some responsibility for failures.

    You ask this kinda question ppl will give you stares like you are an alien.

    In the local work culture be it any engineering company, if you work in any of the department that's associated with maintenace other department will look at your dept as the "non-profitable" dept. They will look at it as the dept that will spent the most money. They wouldn't look at the dept as it's the saviour of money saved on the long run. Other dept either make profit or help make profit. That's why a lot of ppl choose not to work in maintenace becoz of such culture here. They are not treated well as in ppl do not appreciate their work, not paid well and lots of budget cuts that make work life difficult.

    Other dept can get what they want if they meet sales target. Bosses like to look to maintenace to cut cost first. In other words maintenace tend to have the least priority when it comes to getting funds. They hire a retail CEO, retail got maintenace or not? Do you think she will look at it as important?

    You can go to any engineering coy maintenace dept you won't get to see any happy ppl working in the entire dept. LoL...


    Edited by Watwheels, 10 March 2015 - 10:05 PM.

  • 10 March 2015 - 11:29 PM
    Mustank

    I give my two cents.

    What happened here is everyone is running on auto pilot. If it was working, why change anything? When saw took over, few breakdowns so she took it for granted maintenance is not so crucial.

    For Desmond, I dunno y but I kinda feel he knows what must be done but his hands are tied. This to me is unacceptable because he is the CEO after all.

    I think the solution here is simple. Desmond must be empowered to do what he thinks is the best without hindrance. If he succeeds, he deserves his pay. He fails, off he goes. But the crux is he must be eempowered, not shackled by investors. The reason why I feel he is not sacked is because the higher ups know his constraints and getting another person would not make a difference. His competence is not in question.

    If mrt needs is 3 months no work leave to fully repair Everythjng, can we give it to mrt? What mrt wants, very hard to give and it is not Desmond's fault
    We may need very radical solutions like

    Aggresive work from home orders starting with those garmen chaps excluding essential services like saf, police, hospital, schools
    Temp workers quarters at all worksite to make sure these chaps don't use mrt
    Mrt to shut down at 10pm, night bus take over, maintenance start work
    Very pervasive deployment of express bus from heartlands to workplace, pervasive to the point of making losses at smrt's expense
    Strict control of train weight load at 75% of manufuctrer's recommendation
    Any companies with more than 50 work permit must secure accommodations for these workers within 3km and served by bus
    Re-issue personalized Ezlink cards with nric and photo for all citizens and pr. Standard rate apply for peak hour mrt travel for these cards. Extremely heavy rate for any others without these cards wanting to use mrt at peak hour

    In the very long term: Aggresive decentralization of city centre
    But above all: back to basics, focus on core competencies, not pet sexy projects

    Edited by Mustank, 10 March 2015 - 11:39 PM.

  • 10 March 2015 - 11:50 PM
    13177

    I give my two cents.

    What happened here is everyone is running on auto pilot. If it was working, why change anything? When saw took over, few breakdowns so she took it for granted maintenance is not so crucial.

    For Desmond, I dunno y but I kinda feel he knows what must be done but his hands are tied. This to me is unacceptable because he is the CEO after all.

    I think the solution here is simple. Desmond must be empowered to do what he thinks is the best without hindrance. If he succeeds, he deserves his pay. He fails, off he goes. But the crux is he must be eempowered, not shackled by investors. The reason why I feel he is not sacked is because the higher ups know his constraints and getting another person would not make a difference. His competence is not in question.

    Think this is the mentality and the way they do things here. If nothing happen then just take things for granted and let it run as per normal. Only until something serious issue happened, then they start to find solution. But guess it is not the first time that major breakdown happened on MRT/LRT liao, i just don't understand why they still allowed such major breakdown to happen again and again and again???


  • 11 March 2015 - 01:07 AM
    Nolicense

    Think this is the mentality and the way they do things here. If nothing happen then just take things for granted and let it run as per normal. Only until something serious issue happened, then they start to find solution. But guess it is not the first time that major breakdown happened on MRT/LRT liao, i just don't understand why they still allowed such major breakdown to happen again and again and again???

    this happens everywhere... just because nothing happen doesn't mean the systems in place are working.

    that's the idea why systems like ISO are in place..

    but systems always by pass and audit can still pass.. pls dun quote me.. :ph34r:


  • 11 March 2015 - 01:13 AM
    Kb27

    this happens everywhere... just because nothing happen doesn't mean the systems in place are working.

    that's the idea why systems like ISO are in place..

    but systems always by pass and audit can still pass.. pls dun quote me.. :ph34r:

    ISO is just about documenting processes.

    It does not guarantee quality.


  • 11 March 2015 - 02:30 AM
    Beehive3783

    He is brought in by the investors, of course won't get sacked la.

    Just think, how many of the paper generals that got to "private sectors" got sacked for incompetence?

    If my small brain serves me correctly, the answer is none.

    I give my two cents.

    What happened here is everyone is running on auto pilot. If it was working, why change anything? When saw took over, few breakdowns so she took it for granted maintenance is not so crucial.

    For Desmond, I dunno y but I kinda feel he knows what must be done but his hands are tied. This to me is unacceptable because he is the CEO after all.

    I think the solution here is simple. Desmond must be empowered to do what he thinks is the best without hindrance. If he succeeds, he deserves his pay. He fails, off he goes. But the crux is he must be eempowered, not shackled by investors. The reason why I feel he is not sacked is because the higher ups know his constraints and getting another person would not make a difference. His competence is not in question.


    Those ISO audits are all bullsh1t la.

    Just bring the auditor out for lunch everyday and have the basic requirements ready, kao tim liao.

    this happens everywhere... just because nothing happen doesn't mean the systems in place are working.

    that's the idea why systems like ISO are in place..

    but systems always by pass and audit can still pass.. pls dun quote me.. :ph34r:


  • 11 March 2015 - 04:06 AM
    Yewheng

    this happens everywhere... just because nothing happen doesn't mean the systems in place are working.
    that's the idea why systems like ISO are in place..
    but systems always by pass and audit can still pass.. pls dun quote me.. :ph34r:


    Think of it this way, if smrt or lrt is an airline company. With so many breakdown, the airline safety records will be very bad. So for some, they cannot to make any mistake or flaw in the system as its a life and death situation, for some, it can cause great inconvenience to many people. For some the error of margin is much higher as it does not affect that much people and not life threatening.

    And definitely smrt need to look at how come some airlines can maintain such good service standard. How we can learn from them. They also should learn from Japan how they can maintain the rail system to such good standard. How come they could have so little breakdown but not us? They should also look at our history where train is so much reliable. How come in the past we can have so reliable system but not nowadays what went wrong? LRT don't say as ever since it was launched, there were many issues and stoppages till now. Seems like something is wrong since start. However they did seem to resolve the issue where fewer breakdown later but now back to the old issue when it first started running lrt but seems even worst. Why? What is the difference in they things to get done? Hopefully they could found out and resolve this issue. We also do not want the problem bring over to the new mrt line and frequent breakdown right?
  • 11 March 2015 - 09:12 AM
    RadX
    This human breakdown

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  • 11 March 2015 - 09:17 AM
    Vid

    This human breakdown

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    The problem with using the phone and boarding at the same time


  • 11 March 2015 - 09:25 AM
    RadX


    The problem with using the phone and boarding at the same time


    I bet it would be an awesome selfie... Lol
  • 11 March 2015 - 09:26 AM
    Matrix0405

    If mrt needs is 3 months no work leave to fully repair Everythjng, can we give it to mrt? What mrt wants, very hard to give and it is not Desmond's fault
    We may need very radical solutions like

    Aggresive work from home orders starting with those garmen chaps excluding essential services like saf, police, hospital, schools
    Temp workers quarters at all worksite to make sure these chaps don't use mrt
    Mrt to shut down at 10pm, night bus take over, maintenance start work
    Very pervasive deployment of express bus from heartlands to workplace, pervasive to the point of making losses at smrt's expense
    Strict control of train weight load at 75% of manufuctrer's recommendation
    Any companies with more than 50 work permit must secure accommodations for these workers within 3km and served by bus
    Re-issue personalized Ezlink cards with nric and photo for all citizens and pr. Standard rate apply for peak hour mrt travel for these cards. Extremely heavy rate for any others without these cards wanting to use mrt at peak hour

    In the very long term: Aggresive decentralization of city centre
    But above all: back to basics, focus on core competencies, not pet sexy projects

    You got some good points over there but every one of them are stripping profit from SMRT. Unless every point is matched with an increase in fare, else who want to support?�

    The bucks stop at the CEO. First year, he still can get uncle saw to share the blame. But after one year and one million dollar, commuters need answers.�


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