mycarforum: KIA K3 Owners check-in! part 37

Ya that's quite high fc. My friends Honda shuttle can get 15km/l.

Really depends on your driving habits and route.. I can get as high as 10km/l for city driving and as low as 14km/l when I go more highway driving.. k3 isn't known for excellent fc so no point comparing. But k3 fc is still manageable imo. Not the kind I have to worry about my pocket.

Lately seeing more and more of the Forte, quite hard to mistake the tail lights design

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Yeah April is the month of deliveries I think...

You fc not accurate due to your tyre size. K3 should be 215 45 17.
According to my mechanic friend, aircon temperature will affect fc. His advice to set to coldest possible. Will also prolong compressor life.

I tried it on my last ride and is true.

My tyres is only wider by 10mm, overall diameter still the same at R17. Ya I heard about the aircon. Cos when we set higher temp it will mix hot air into the cabin, which returns to cooling coil and coil have to work harder due to the hot air mixed in.

Try to use their shell oil.dun use other oils

Ya shell oil is pure with no additional additives. Oil like Motul has additives that made the engine smoother but in turn damage engine in the long run as it has coatings to coat the Cynlinder walls to reduce friction.

Hi all, The tyres is stock Nexen. Not changed yet. I know that tyres are not good according to fellow owners.

8.6l/100km I shall not complain but is 8.6km/l based on manual calculation. 60% city and 40% highway bah. I drive quite slow when in the city cause a lot of roadworks with gravel. Scare to damage paintwork. :) Now change to 70% highway 40% city then can get 11.6km/l.

Yeah my old car pump around 240PSI so fuel economy is quite good for a 10 yrs old ride.

Poor tyres have high rolling resistance that will produce bad fc. And the wet road braking is poor. Beware driving in rain and do not hard brake. I think better to invest in a good set of tyres cos it's the only contact point with the road.

My tyres is only wider by 10mm, overall diameter still the same at R17. Ya I heard about the aircon. Cos when we set higher temp it will mix hot air into the cabin, which returns to cooling coil and coil have to work harder due to the hot air mixed in.

Ya shell oil is pure with no additional additives. Oil like Motul has additives that made the engine smoother but in turn damage engine in the long run as it has coatings to coat the Cynlinder walls to reduce friction.

Poor tyres have high rolling resistance that will produce bad fc. And the wet road braking is poor. Beware driving in rain and do not hard brake. I think better to invest in a good set of tyres cos it's the only contact point with the road.

225 tyres slightly higher too. Difference is 1.44% bigger diameter.

Agree that Nexen tyres not so good.
Better to change to PSP3, CPC5 or F1A2.
Can do a comparison between price, durability and performance then decide which you prefer.

225 tyres slightly higher too. Difference is 1.44% bigger diameter.

Agree that Nexen tyres not so good.
Better to change to PSP3, CPC5 or F1A2.
Can do a comparison between price, durability and performance then decide which you prefer.

That means actually my FC is better than what is displayed ?

That means actually my FC is better than what is displayed ?

Yes, that is correct.
However, your fc will be better on 215 tyres.

Yes, that is correct.
However, your fc will be better on 215 tyres.

I see. But CSC5 don't have 215. That's y I got 225.

I see. But CSC5 don't have 215. That's y I got 225.

Maybe by your next tyre change, it will be available otherwise can consider others.

Personally, I'm very happy with Goodyear F1A2 for the price, durability, grip and quietness. My previous FD also on same tyres and tyres still good after 45,000km.
Waiting for F1A3 to come in to Singapore in time for next tyre change.

Maybe by your next tyre change, it will be available otherwise can consider others.

Personally, I'm very happy with Goodyear F1A2 for the price, durability, grip and quietness. My previous FD also on same tyres and tyres still good after 45,000km.
Waiting for F1A3 to come in to Singapore in time for next tyre change.

I see. Can try Goodyear on next tyre change. I bought CSC5 because I know the guys at Stamford tyres and they always to things for me foc.

I see. Can try Goodyear on next tyre change. I bought CSC5 because I know the guys at Stamford tyres and they always to things for me foc.

Stamford tyres prices quite expensive.
I paid $145 per tyre for F1A2. I think your CSC5 from Stamford closer to $200.
Anyway, CSC5 are excellent tyres albeit expensive.

Stamford tyres prices quite expensive.
I paid $145 per tyre for F1A2. I think your CSC5 from Stamford closer to $200.
Anyway, CSC5 are excellent tyres albeit expensive.

Ya bro $198 per pc. But I traded in the Nexen for $40 per pc. So total I paid $632 for full set tyres.

Ya bro $198 per pc. But I traded in the Nexen for $40 per pc. So total I paid $632 for full set tyres.

Mine a little complicated.
I kept my old 17" rims from my FD.
So I had to get a set of old rims and tyreswhen deliver my FD in exchange for my new K3.
Traded in the 16" rims and tyres from my EX for the 17" F1A2. Paid $300 in total.

Edited by Jagash, 17 April 2016 - 03:31 PM.

Mine a little complicated.
I kept my old 17" rims from my FD.
So I had to get a set of old rims and tyreswhen deliver my FD in exchange for my new K3.
Traded in the 16" rims and tyres from my EX for the 17" F1A2. Paid $300 in total.

So you using what rims ?

So you using what rims ?

Mine is a metallic rims from RM.
So if you see any white K3 on the road with metallic coloured rims, it's my ride.
Anyway, I retained my 26 year old number plate.

Yeah April is the month of deliveries I think...

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The more I see K3, the more it remind me of my own tail lights... [dizzy]

The more I see K3, the more it remind me of my own tail lights...

What happened to your tail lights?

What happened to your tail lights?

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nothing, just that the design is similar.

I see. But CSC5 don't have 215. That's y I got 225.

CSC5 has �215/45/17 bro...Im on it..

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Suggest u look around other shops as Stamford is expensive...

Edited by Kwoni, 18 April 2016 - 11:33 AM.

CSC5 has �215/45/17 bro...Im on it..

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Suggest u look around other shops as Stamford is expensive...

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Ya, Stamford price always more expensive than others.

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My regular tyre workshop is at Yap Brothers at Ubi. Their price are cheaper and reasonable. Service also good.

Edited by BullsEye, 18 April 2016 - 01:13 PM.

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Hi,

Notice that you have changed the headlight and fog light to 1 of white colour, how much it cost you? and what light is that and where you had it done? Nice!

Edited by Simonchew, 18 April 2016 - 05:20 PM.

Hi,

Notice that you have changed the headlight and fog light to 1 of white colour, how much it cost you? and what light is that and where you had it done? Nice!

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tks! replied to your PM.

Simon, can PM me too, wish to change, thkq.

CSC5 has 215/45/17 bro...Im on it..

Suggest u look around other shops as Stamford is expensive...

Have but more ex than 225/45/17. Expensive but everything free, patching, rotation, nitrogen. And previously they did many free alignments for my car, so gotta support them.

Have but more ex than 225/45/17. Expensive but everything free, patching, rotation, nitrogen. And previously they did many free alignments for my car, so gotta support them.

Any bros knows where to get good quality car mats? The stock mats are lousy quality.

any GENUINE buyers or friends�getting K3 by this weekend? free giveaway. PM for details. [thumbsup]

I dun like the soft/spongy suspension that came with my KIA EX. Any body dun F strut? R stabilizer? Where? How much? What is the result? Suspension feels soft spongy at cruise speed of 80, 90, 110 kph. At slow drive up to speed it is soft/spongy - you'll feel it at 30 or 50 kph. I am not complaining about softness/sponginess during aggressive driving or doing sharp, hard and fast corners. Anyone has experience with spring buffers? Will spring buffers resolve my problem?

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Bro, I think you chose the wrong car. The K3 was not built for aggressive driving and sharp hard fast corner.

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Perhaps you shld go for WRX, Evo or FD2R.�

nothing, just that the design is similar.

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Not quite lar bro... the K3 a lot rounder...

Ya, Stamford price always more expensive than others.

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My regular tyre workshop is at Yap Brothers at Ubi. Their price are cheaper and reasonable. Service also good.

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I usually buy from Autobaccs... are they more expensive too?

DRL is turned on the moment you start yr engine, by design & is a safety feature. I like it so much. Distinguishes KIA from others. It's v bright but dims (and still maintains its visual accent) when u then on the headlights. Clever. And well considered feature. I like it the way it is. But after I read these posts, I realise there are bros who not prefer. Solution=go to garage & add switch (& Ireland) to control it

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I find that the DRL for the K3 is mounted too high... so it's a distraction to other drivers. And makes the car look a bit weird when it is running during the day.

any GENUINE buyers or friends�getting K3 by this weekend? free giveaway. PM for details.

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You fishing for business?

I used to think K3 very value for money, almost thought of buying one last year. But in the last 2 months seems like this thread has started to fill up with complaints....�

I used to think K3 very value for money, almost thought of buying one last year. But in the last 2 months seems like this thread has started to fill up with complaints....�

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At the purchase price, it is value for money. That's no doubt at all...�

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The issue is more with C&C's sales tactics - not very transparent, and no respect for those with non-guaranteed COE packages.

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Other matters like the less than glossy paint work above the number plate, etc, these are QC issues which are easily fixed. I expect that C&C is selling quite a few of these cars and hence their standards may slip a bit... with the cars being so complicated these days, it isn't easy to QC everything given very tight deadlines... once the car reaches our shores, the owner will be banging on the door every day to get his car... imagine the pressure... not easy.

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Some of the 'complaints' are simply the opinions of the car owners. Whether the car meets your expectations or not is very subjective. And what one person feels, you may not feel at all... e.g. someone complained about the softness of the suspension, but someone else may actually prefer the car's suspension to be comfort biased. I've driven the Forte SX Sport with 17" or 18" rims with a tire profile of 45 around Ubi before. I find the ride quality very good for such large rims and low profile tires and felt that the absorption of bumps and road imperfections was very well handled. There was feedback but it wasn't intrusive. But someone else may dislike it and want the car to 'glide' over all road imperfections... so it varies right?

Not quite lar bro... the K3 a lot rounder...

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Rounder, but has a similar sort of feel, rounded light pipe surrounding LED brake lights
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At the purchase price, it is value for money. That's no doubt at all...

The issue is more with C&C's sales tactics - not very transparent, and no respect for those with non-guaranteed COE packages.

Other matters like the less than glossy paint work above the number plate, etc, these are QC issues which are easily fixed. I expect that C&C is selling quite a few of these cars and hence their standards may slip a bit... with the cars being so complicated these days, it isn't easy to QC everything given very tight deadlines... once the car reaches our shores, the owner will be banging on the door every day to get his car... imagine the pressure... not easy.

Some of the 'complaints' are simply the opinions of the car owners. Whether the car meets your expectations or not is very subjective. And what one person feels, you may not feel at all... e.g. someone complained about the softness of the suspension, but someone else may actually prefer the car's suspension to be comfort biased. I've driven the Forte SX Sport with 17" or 18" rims with a tire profile of 45 around Ubi before. I find the ride quality very good for such large rims and low profile tires and felt that the absorption of bumps and road imperfections was very well handled. There was feedback but it wasn't intrusive. But someone else may dislike it and want the car to 'glide' over all road imperfections... so it varies right?

Totally agree with you. Those that we pointed out are very minor defects which C&C agreed to go for re-spray but I rejected. Don't wanna spray paint on new car. It's the problem with Kia in Korea , maybe license plate in other countries are bigger that will cover the entire area? Even Mercedes are not perfect. Please walk near to a Mercedes if you have chance and look at their bumpers closely. The joint alignment is poor with big gaps.

Not quite lar bro... the K3 a lot rounder...

I usually buy from Autobaccs... are they more expensive too?

I find that the DRL for the K3 is mounted too high... so it's a distraction to other drivers. And makes the car look a bit weird when it is running during the day.

Autobacs is expensive and they are not tyre specialists. I only buy merchandise like car shampoo from them. Machiam NTUC lor.

You fishing for business?

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DRL is turned on the moment you start yr engine, by design & is a safety feature. I like it so much. Distinguishes KIA from others. It's v bright but dims (and still maintains its visual accent) when u then on the headlights. Clever. And well considered feature. I like it the way it is. But after I read these posts, I realise there are bros who not prefer. Solution=go to garage & add switch (& relays) to control it.

Last line ... (& relays) ... NOT (& Ireland) !
Some pointed out paintwork above the number plate is poor. Square sectional steel structure underneath the parcel shelf, which is below the rear windscreen is not even painted. I'll live with that, too

I read the owners manual from Kia Canada and it states that the DRL will turn off when headlamps are on. So I thought should be same. But sg version of k3 different.

US / Canada market is one whole market on their own... they play by their own rules... so their specs and the rest of the world always different.

At the purchase price, it is value for money. That's no doubt at all...

The issue is more with C&C's sales tactics - not very transparent, and no respect for those with non-guaranteed COE packages.

Other matters like the less than glossy paint work above the number plate, etc, these are QC issues which are easily fixed. I expect that C&C is selling quite a few of these cars and hence their standards may slip a bit... with the cars being so complicated these days, it isn't easy to QC everything given very tight deadlines... once the car reaches our shores, the owner will be banging on the door every day to get his car... imagine the pressure... not easy.

Some of the 'complaints' are simply the opinions of the car owners. Whether the car meets your expectations or not is very subjective. And what one person feels, you may not feel at all... e.g. someone complained about the softness of the suspension, but someone else may actually prefer the car's suspension to be comfort biased. I've driven the Forte SX Sport with 17" or 18" rims with a tire profile of 45 around Ubi before. I find the ride quality very good for such large rims and low profile tires and felt that the absorption of bumps and road imperfections was very well handled. There was feedback but it wasn't intrusive. But someone else may dislike it and want the car to 'glide' over all road imperfections... so it varies right?

I agree with you. My experience with C&C was good. From presales to after sales. Everything was well taken care of. Mine non guaranteed package last November 15, i got my COE on 2nd bid, which was fast. It really depending on the COE trend for the period when you order the car. Q4 2015, COE was going downhill, if you scroll back to earlier pages, many owner secured their non guaranteed COE within 1 bid. So depending on how you "bet" on the COE game. If the trend is going uphill, then go for guaranteed package.

Those complaints we read perhaps some owners are unlucky or maybe have very high expectations. Case to case basis, also very subjective. Like we all know, even Mercedes also not perfect. Since the day i got my car, it was really hard for me to point out any fault with this car. Only issue is the Stock tyres for me, I don't like, therefore replaced to Michelin since day 1. Other than that for me, this car exceeded my expectations.

Edited by BullsEye, 19 April 2016 - 11:46 PM.

US / Canada market is one whole market on their own... they play by their own rules... so their specs and the rest of the world always different.

Their signal light is red instead of orange.

tks! replied to your PM.

Haha

I dun like the soft/spongy suspension that came with my KIA EX. Any body dun F strut? R stabilizer? Where? How much? What is the result? Suspension feels soft spongy at cruise speed of 80, 90, 110 kph. At slow drive up to speed it is soft/spongy - you'll feel it at 30 or 50 kph. I am not complaining about softness/sponginess during aggressive driving or doing sharp, hard and fast corners. Anyone has experience with spring buffers? Will spring buffers resolve my problem?

Bro you should have gotten a WRX...

I dun like the soft/spongy suspension that came with my KIA EX. Any body dun F strut? R stabilizer? Where? How much? What is the result? Suspension feels soft spongy at cruise speed of 80, 90, 110 kph. At slow drive up to speed it is soft/spongy - you'll feel it at 30 or 50 kph. I am not complaining about softness/sponginess during aggressive driving or doing sharp, hard and fast corners. Anyone has experience with spring buffers? Will spring buffers resolve my problem?

I think it's either your road is uneven or your tyre pressure is too soft. Change the suspension to Coilovers lor, think the stiffness you cannot tahan and everything in the car cabin will start to rattle. I drove my previous ride on Coilovers and still prefers the stock suspension, enjoying the softness.

Morning Everyone,

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Just went for my 1k servicing and all 'problems' on my car (K3)�was rectified. [thumbsup]

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Customer service called me up�twice to�confirm that my 'request' were dealt with,�it took only around 3 to 4 hours to get my servicing done.�

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After the new change in oil etc etc the car felt smoother and more responsive, In fact at one stage 6 full size grown ups squeeze into my car, for dinner at east coast. :TT_TT: �(2 of them were over 6 feet)

Thought my car would break down halfway, but surprisingly the car just felt heavy and gave a smooth ride. [sweatdrop]

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So I can safely say the K3 had a surprising amount of power.

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Only quip I have about my servicing experience is that no one told me you had to get a queue number for the servicing procedure. :grin:

Was dozing at the corner of a comfortable sofa when I noticed numbers were being called and luckily I ask the receptionist who, with a smile, directed me to the queue machine. hee hee (felt like a sotong)

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I rate my first experience at C&C a 4 stars, maybe 4 and a half :a-m1212:

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Morning Everyone,

Just went for my 1k servicing and all 'problems' on my car (K3) was rectified.

Customer service called me up twice to confirm that my 'request' were dealt with, it took only around 3 to 4 hours to get my servicing done.

After the new change in oil etc etc the car felt smoother and more responsive, In fact at one stage 6 full size grown ups squeeze into my car, for dinner at east coast. (2 of them were over 6 feet)
Thought my car would break down halfway, but surprisingly the car just felt heavy and gave a smooth ride.

So I can safely say the K3 had a surprising amount of power.

Only quip I have about my servicing experience is that no one told me you had to get a queue number for the servicing procedure.
Was dozing at the corner of a comfortable sofa when I noticed numbers were being called and luckily I ask the receptionist who, with a smile, directed me to the queue machine. hee hee (felt like a sotong)

I rate my first experience at C&C a 4 stars, maybe 4 and a half

I guess most of us didn't know that 1k servicing can do miracles.

easily wiped away with goo-gone la... his is a few weeks old car... mine the forte was removed after about 6 mths when doing PPS, no marks left either.

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Hi,

May i know what bulb you are using for your fog light? Thanks.

Anyone got their COE today?
What price did C&C bid?

After the new change in oil etc etc the car felt smoother and more responsive, In fact at one stage 6 full size grown ups squeeze into my car, for dinner at east coast. �(2 of them were over 6 feet)

Thought my car would break down halfway, but surprisingly the car just felt heavy and gave a smooth ride.

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So I can safely say the K3 had a surprising amount of power.

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I agree. I have loaded the K3 full with lots of people and could still accelerate well.

Just had to be careful with braking distance due to the extra weight.

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Comments from my passengers were very positive. The car felt super smooth and fast to them.

Anyone got their COE today?
What price did C&C bid?

Nope, did not get. Thought have chance as the rate of the biddings wentslow today. But 3pm shot up (should be uber, smrt and grab). 4th bid for me, 39999 as usual.

Wow! looking at all the non successful bid, i was real lucky to get my sx on end march biding on first bid with a non gauranteed price at $90,999.

Nope, did not get. Thought have chance as the rate of the biddings wentslow today. But 3pm shot up (should be uber, smrt and grab). 4th bid for me, 39999 as usual.

Actually the COE system is totally unfair to consumers and big advantage to the car dealers. I wrote letters and articles on this issue few years back with proposed revision but nothing happen.

In a rising COE market, you need to top up. In a falling COE market, dealers make more money as our CPE price is generally peg much lower than current COE prices.

I was lucky to get mine at $43K and still get a rebate of $2K. If COE remains at current levels for next 2 bids you manager a refund of your deposit. It happened to me in 1998 and I ended up buying a 1 year old pre owned car instead.
Good luck!

Nope, did not get. Thought have chance as the rate of the biddings wentslow today. But 3pm shot up (should be uber, smrt and grab). 4th bid for me, 39999 as usual.

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Got mine after top up to guaranteed bid

Nope, did not get. Thought have chance as the rate of the biddings wentslow today. But 3pm shot up (should be uber, smrt and grab). 4th bid for me, 39999 as usual.

You should top up to guaranteed bid.

Nope, did not get. Thought have chance as the rate of the biddings wentslow today. But 3pm shot up (should be uber, smrt and grab). 4th bid for me, 39999 as usual.

Its either you top up or get back the deposit. How desperate are you to buy the car?

I agree. I have loaded the K3 full with lots of people and could still accelerate well.

Just had to be careful with braking distance due to the extra weight.

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Comments from my passengers were very positive. The car felt super smooth and fast to them.

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Yeah I noted that when I travelling 90 km/hr the car dun feel like it unlike my old car that feels very light.�

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Acceleration is quite brisk considering it has more horsepower.

Nope, did not get. Thought have chance as the rate of the biddings wentslow today. But 3pm shot up (should be uber, smrt and grab). 4th bid for me, 39999 as usual.

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Yeah those public transport providers declared that they are also fighting for COEs as well. So COE to shoot up is probable.�

Not to mentioned that the upcoming car expo event this weekend. Sure a number of orders.

yeap, indeed, UBER succeeded in most of the bids.�

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SMRT/GRAB and Car Expo coming out, doesn't seems good for the COE.

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http://www.straitsti...s-coe-prices-up

Anyone got their COE today?
What price did C&C bid?

Didn't get mine, 1st bid, $40999, not in a hurry so its good to drag anyway ...5 more chances

Didn't get mine, 1st bid, $40999, not in a hurry so its good to drag anyway ...5 more chances

The longer they drag,the higher the chances you have to top up.

yeap, indeed, UBER succeeded in most of the bids.

SMRT/GRAB and Car Expo coming out, doesn't seems good for the COE.

http://www.straitsti...s-coe-prices-up

Those fence sitters cannot continue to sit

The longer they drag,the higher the chances you have to top up.
Those fence sitters cannot continue to sit

Understand tat but buying a car is already a stretch....no intention of topping up, if I dun secure one

by 6th, maybe ending up sitting uber everyday hahaha :pissed-off:

Hi.. Im new here..got my coe on the end march bidding as my current car going to scrap on july. May i know what is the thinkware cam model and does it come with the surveillance cable.�

Understand tat but buying a car is already a stretch....no intention of topping up, if I dun secure one
by 6th, maybe ending up sitting uber everyday hahaha

You happen to compete with uber etc. So most probably no fight

Hi.. Im new here..got my coe on the end march bidding as my current car going to scrap on july. May i know what is the thinkware cam model and does it come with the surveillance cable.

Hi,

I done my thinkware h50 at Han revolutiin, at $188(include installation). Not really fantastic as u cant view the image u are recording in the car as no screen, quality for day is good but night cant see the other car licence plate. Plus u must download the thinkware software before being able to view the recorded files.

Understand tat but buying a car is already a stretch....no intention of topping up, if I dun secure one
by 6th, maybe ending up sitting uber everyday hahaha

You can always get an almost new pre-owned car too.

Hi,

I done my thinkware h50 at Han revolutiin, at $188(include installation). Not really fantastic as u cant view the image u are recording in the car as no screen, quality for day is good but night cant see the other car licence plate. Plus u must download the thinkware software before being able to view the recorded files.

your is not free??? My SE give me thinkware cam. she not sure the model... tat why im asking any bro here got take the thinkware cam from C&C.�

your is not free??? My SE give me thinkware cam. she not sure the model... tat why im asking any bro here got take the thinkware cam from C&C.�

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C&C providing�THINKWARE DASH CAM�H50

Hi,

I done my thinkware h50 at Han revolutiin, at $188(include installation). Not really fantastic as u cant view the image u are recording in the car as no screen, quality for day is good but night cant see the other car licence plate. Plus u must download the thinkware software before being able to view the recorded files.

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Bro, the free cam all like that one lar... they give you the entry level model mah... My Sonata also only got a Dabonda Racing in car cam. No wifi, no screen, no nothing. Just record to mSD card lor... and only max capacity of 32 GB... so it's the norm.

Rounder, but has a similar sort of feel, rounded light pipe surrounding LED brake lights
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My Sonata also got the same design cue leh... light pipe surrounding the brake lights. But my brake lights like not LED.

Just done my 1k servicing today. May I know does it means that car already break in? Means can whack accelerator already?

Can I check what's the rpm that you guys' cars normally change gears? During run in mine used to be changing gears at 1500rpm. Now need to rev up to 2000rpm.

My Sonata also got the same design cue leh... light pipe surrounding the brake lights. But my brake lights like not LED.

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the slightly amusing thing was how some people said the facelifted Optima looked like Ford Fusion :huh:

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But I think it's just the way most of the marques have gone. Nissan's style also has a bit of similarity.

But it's just that nowadays the K3's tail lights remind me of my lights. One time from far away I did almost think a K5 was another big Ford.

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Sonata's not so confusing because the shape is a bit more different with that sort of sticking out bit.

your is not free??? My SE give me thinkware cam. she not sure the model... tat why im asking any bro here got take the thinkware cam from C&C.

Mine only free eurostyle and rikecool.

I like. I like. KIA K3 (1st pix on the left) is the Beauty of Them All. Lights in front is also betterer than them, all. The reflector beneath is only decorative. Just like the one in the inside front door panels. Fortunately, it's no huge turn off. Soon aftermarket replacement, will become available. Forumers will surely post the shop contact, here, for some who r interested.

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the one on the left is not a K3...
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your is not free??? My SE give me thinkware cam. she not sure the model... tat why im asking any bro here got take the thinkware cam from C&C.

My is from C&C, according to My SE there a 1000 dollar free promotion for purchase accessories on K3 when booking confirm.
I use it on the solar film and thinkware cam, balance offset from the car price.

My is from C&C, according to My SE there a 1000 dollar free promotion for purchase accessories on K3 when booking confirm.
I use it on the solar film and thinkware cam, balance offset from the car price.

Really!!! .when u book ur k3??...my SE only gave me thinkware cam, rikecool and floor mat. Ask for the magnetic sun shade den she say need to check with her supplier see how much first... Think of changing my thinkware cam since its H50

Edited by Alvintcp, 21 April 2016 - 11:47 PM.

the slightly amusing thing was how some people said the facelifted Optima looked like Ford Fusion

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But I think it's just the way most of the marques have gone. Nissan's style also has a bit of similarity.

But it's just that nowadays the K3's tail lights remind me of my lights. One time from far away I did almost think a K5 was another big Ford.

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Sonata's not so confusing because the shape is a bit more different with that sort of sticking out bit.

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Just to add in the Sonata tail lamp for comparison...

Just to add in the Sonata tail lamp for comparison...2015-hyundai-sonata-tail-light.jpg

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Nice.. :a-m1212:

Really!!! .when u book ur k3??...my SE only gave me thinkware cam, rikecool and floor mat. Ask for the magnetic sun shade den she say need to check with her supplier see how much first... Think of changing my thinkware cam since its H50

I have what you have mention + the sun shape my car book on 12 Jan with non guarantee 6 bid COE, successfully get my car on 18 April on six bid.
Why change, the think ware cam not to bad, it speak when you start you car also after you switch off.

How long does you guys run in the car? After that hard acceleration ? Mine on 1100km still babying it.

I have what you have mention + the sun shape my car book on 12 Jan with non guarantee 6 bid COE, successfully get my car on 18 April on six bid.
Why change, the think ware cam not to bad, it speak when you start you car also after you switch off.

Two school of thoughts.
The first says tinting in for 1st 1000km.
The second says no need to run in.
Either way, you already exceeded the 1st 1000km.
As for me, I drive the car based on the road conditions. Drive gently to conserve petrol but no qualms to push the car hard if needed.

How long does you guys run in the car? After that hard acceleration ? Mine on 1100km still babying it.

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Run in usually for first 1000 km only. It's not only about the run in period, after that you should still avoid hard acceleration during the first 10 minutes of driving as the engine oil is still warming up.

I have what you have mention + the sun shape my car book on 12 Jan with non guarantee 6 bid COE, successfully get my car on 18 April on six bid.
Why change, the think ware cam not to bad, it speak when you start you car also after you switch off.

Check some review tat H50 nite recording is not good...

After reading some of the postings in this forum, I consider myself very lucky to have secured my coe on first bidding attempt after placing my order with C&C on standard package in mid Feb 16. My car was also collected within the next 2 weeks in early Mar 16. From ordering to collection, it only took 20 days.

After reading some of the postings in this forum, I consider myself very lucky to have secured my coe on first bidding attempt after placing my order with C&C on standard package in mid Feb 16. My car was also collected within the next 2 weeks in early Mar 16. From ordering to collection, it only took 20 days.

Very lucky indeed.

Two school of thoughts.
The first says tinting in for 1st 1000km.
The second says no need to run in.
Either way, you already exceeded the 1st 1000km.
As for me, I drive the car based on the road conditions. Drive gently to conserve petrol but no qualms to push the car hard if needed.

Ya K3 can pick up speed quite fast. Still abit not used to the driving viewing angle when squeezing tight spaces and turning carpark.

Run in usually for first 1000 km only. It's not only about the run in period, after that you should still avoid hard acceleration during the first 10 minutes of driving as the engine oil is still warming up.

Our car seems to warm up quite fast. By the time I exit mscp. Temp gauge already at 90degree Celsius.

Should b getting car in aug/sep.

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Today was present at the Car. Put the down payment of $5k and booked the Kia Forte K3 (Ex).

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Happy to join the club ! cheers !

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Today was present at the Car. Put the down payment of $5k and booked the Kia Forte K3 (Ex).

Happy to join the club ! cheers !

How much is it selling now? What freebies you getting?

Ya K3 can pick up speed quite fast. Still abit not used to the driving viewing angle when squeezing tight spaces and turning carpark.

Our car seems to warm up quite fast. By the time I exit mscp. Temp gauge already at 90degree Celsius.

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That is coolant temperature, different from engine oil temperature. It should finish warming up within 1-2 minutes of driving.

That is coolant temperature, different from engine oil temperature. It should finish warming up within 1-2 minutes of driving.

Oh thanks for the info. Does anyone knows where to buy good quality car mats? The stock mats very low quality. And I don't want those 3A / 3M car mats that traps dust.

Today was present at the Car. Put the down payment of $5k and booked the Kia Forte K3 (Ex).

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Happy to join the club ! cheers !

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Nice! Guaranteed or non guaranteed package? Any special offers for the show?�

Today was present at the Car. Put the down payment of $5k and booked the Kia Forte K3 (Ex).

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Happy to join the club ! cheers !

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Welcome to the club.

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I wonder how many unit of K3 sold during the Car Expo.

It seems that some may have bought it under the leasing scheme...low downpayment, high interest? downpayment of 8,999 and mthly instalment of 944 as advertised in sat'S papers...no idea how that works.

Nice! Guaranteed or non guaranteed package? Any special offers for the show?�

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it is a platinium package (ie, with 2 bids guaranteed) at $89,999/. As I wanted to make a full settlement without taking any Loan , I need to pay additional $1k to $90,000/ . Also, without 1 year free servicing.

Welcome to the club.

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I wonder how many unit of K3 sold during the Car Expo.

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Welcome to the club.

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I wonder how many unit of K3 sold during the Car Expo.

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Not so sure ! But I saw quite a good crowd gathered at the Kia Forte K3 car there viewing the Car. Also, about 6 to 7 tables were occupied with Sales Rep and customers.

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Initially I was very interested in Nissan Sylphy.� However, after reading the Reviews and also noted that it is made in Thailand, I changed my mind.� finally settled with Kia Forte K3. Hope I made a right decision ! [rolleyes]

Hi Everybody just made a downpayment for the K3 SX model. Decided against waiting for the new facelift.. $97549 with guaranteed 6 bid COE.

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I also realised that now C&C offering Uber Scheme. Downpayment 10-15% and strecth up to 10 years with 3.98 interest.

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Hi Everybody just made a downpayment for the K3 SX model. Decided against waiting for the new facelift.. $97549 with guaranteed 6 bid COE.

I also realised that now C&C offering Uber Scheme. Downpayment 10-15% and strecth up to 10 years with 3.98 interest.

Oh now so ex liao. Anyway congrats and welcome to the club. I've been driving k3 SX for about 3 weeks and enjoying it. No regret at all. Have problem turning tight car parks as the wheel base is longer and wider. Boot also higher so can't see anything behind. Matter of time in getting used to it but always hit mscp kerb on rear wheel when turning.

You may want to get the circular convex mirrors and stick them on your wing mirror. Then you won't hit the rear wheels. Will damage your rims. Heartache. The car so new.

Dear Bros, how long do u need to wait to collect the car after reg?

Dear Bros, how long do u need to wait to collect the car after reg?

Shouldn't be more than 3 days.

Today, the price of the Kia Forte K3 is up by $2K ! [bigcry]

Dear Bros, how long do u need to wait to collect the car after reg?

I collected car next day upon registration. I can't accept waiting for 3 days. Lugi 3 days of Coe , road tax, insurance etc.
May I know what steering mode you guys are using? I feel it's too light on comfort, no feeling. On normal, too heavy. Can't get a balance.

I collected car next day upon registration. I can't accept waiting for 3 days. Lugi 3 days of Coe , road tax, insurance etc.
May I know what steering mode you guys are using? I feel it's too light on comfort, no feeling. On normal, too heavy. Can't get a balance.

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Normal mode in city driving. Sport mode during expressway driving. Hardly ever use Comfort, cos too light.

From i collected my car on 9th april was still $90999 now is $95999 in 2wks+. Coe only went up arnd 2k. Think demand is pushing price up.

Normal mode in city driving. Sport mode during expressway driving. Hardly ever use Comfort, cos too light.

Ya comfort totally no feeling of the road. Think will go for normal. Any idea where to get good car mats?

From i collected my car on 9th april was still $90999 now is $95999 in 2wks+. Coe only went up arnd 2k. Think demand is pushing price up.

Now price so high? Luckily I also collect on 6th April. How's your FC? Mine 11-12.5km/L.

9km/l

K3 price up again, my dream never come true :a-bang:

K3 price up again, my dream never come true

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Which model are you looking for? EX or SX? I think below $100,000 for SX is very good already. Don't dream of the COE crashing... it won't. Demand is super high still.

Hi Everybody just made a downpayment for the K3 SX model. Decided against waiting for the new facelift.. $97549 with guaranteed 6 bid COE.

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I also realised that now C&C offering Uber Scheme. Downpayment 10-15% and strecth up to 10 years with 3.98 interest.

Wow $97549, guess people like me taking non guarantee at $ 92999 will never get my car, hahah and that was just 2 weeks ago... :TT_TT:

Wow $97549, guess people like me taking non guarantee at $ 92999 will never get my car, hahah and that was just 2 weeks ago...

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$5000 is not a lot to top up if you really want the car or really need it. Otherwise just take a punt... though I think won't get at $92,999. Cos C&C will just bid at $39,999 for your COE.

Hi all, FC for me is ard 15km/l...depends on whether how often I use expressways...the best I ever get was 16.39km/l or 6.1L/100km after heavy usage of expressways..I am pretty light footed I believe...still monitoring..

Advise needed. I had book a kia k3 SX model 6 non-guarantee bid after the Feb 2nd bidding. Currently, I'm left with 2 more bidding. Before the April 2nd bid my SE actually ask me to top up a 6k to switch to guarantee bid which I forgo this top up.
This morning I receive a msg from my SE asking me to top up a 7k to switch to 2 guarantee bid as I had only left with 2 bid if I don't want to top up I can choose to cancel my coe bidding immediately. So I told my SE that I still stick with the non guarantee bid as I had left with 2 more bidding only and I won't top up. But he message me telling me that he will release the car I reserved for sales. In the event of I manage to secure a COE in this 2 bids I will have to choose a new car. Can the SE just release the car which had been reserved and sign in the contract?

$5000 is not a lot to top up if you really want the car or really need it. Otherwise just take a punt... though I think won't get at $92,999. Cos C&C will just bid at $39,999 for your COE.

If at $98k I think Elantra maybe a better buy actually. I chose K3 becos its 7k cheaper than the Elantra. If I don't get it maybe I will switch to an Elantra or jus sit and wait for the new K3 facelift. Or maybe jus do without a car as its not cost efficient hahaha(basically lazy and over reliant on a car)�

Advise needed. I had book a kia k3 SX model 6 non-guarantee bid after the Feb 2nd bidding. Currently, I'm left with 2 more bidding. Before the April 2nd bid my SE actually ask me to top up a 6k to switch to guarantee bid which I forgo this top up.
This morning I receive a msg from my SE asking me to top up a 7k to switch to 2 guarantee bid as I had only left with 2 bid if I don't want to top up I can choose to cancel my coe bidding immediately. So I told my SE that I still stick with the non guarantee bid as I had left with 2 more bidding only and I won't top up. But he message me telling me that he will release the car I reserved for sales. In the event of I manage to secure a COE in this 2 bids I will have to choose a new car. Can the SE just release the car which had been reserved and sign in the contract?

The COE system is totally unfair to the buyers. We sign a conditional contract with the car dealers and it give them a loop hole to get out when COE prices go up but does not allow buyers to get out when COE prices fall.

The strangest and most ridiculous thing is that buyers need to put a substantial down payment. In the financial world, the buyers would be the ones holding the option finger out when things are unfavorable since we buy that option with the down payment. Buyers gets the shorter ending the stick.
The problem is that buyers are so used to the unfair system and desperate to buy and hence nothing will change.
When COE prices are rising, it will work against you not to top out because the next car you book is going to coercion even more!

The COE system is totally unfair to the buyers. We sign a conditional contract with the car dealers and it give them a loop hole to get out when COE prices go up but does not allow buyers to get out when COE prices fall.

The strangest and most ridiculous thing is that buyers need to put a substantial down payment. In the financial world, the buyers would be the ones holding the option finger out when things are unfavorable since we buy that option with the down payment. Buyers gets the shorter ending the stick.
The problem is that buyers are so used to the unfair system and desperate to buy and hence nothing will change.
When COE prices are rising, it will work against you not to top out because the next car you book is going to coercion even more!

It's already been that way for more than a decade

Advise needed. I had book a kia k3 SX model 6 non-guarantee bid after the Feb 2nd bidding. Currently, I'm left with 2 more bidding. Before the April 2nd bid my SE actually ask me to top up a 6k to switch to guarantee bid which I forgo this top up.
This morning I receive a msg from my SE asking me to top up a 7k to switch to 2 guarantee bid as I had only left with 2 bid if I don't want to top up I can choose to cancel my coe bidding immediately. So I told my SE that I still stick with the non guarantee bid as I had left with 2 more bidding only and I won't top up. But he message me telling me that he will release the car I reserved for sales. In the event of I manage to secure a COE in this 2 bids I will have to choose a new car. Can the SE just release the car which had been reserved and sign in the contract?

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Unfortunately, there's a clause regarding the bidding that says something in the line of dealer reserves the right to not place any bids in the 6 rounds of bidding. If you signed the contract with the clause on it, then the dealer has the right to do it.

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Highly likely the contract will not say that they are to hold a car for you during the bidding period too. �

It's already been that way for more than a decade

COE system started in 1990. It is 26 years old. Car dealers are the beneficiary and off course it's revenue for our reserves. As long as buyers say "bo pian" then why change.

You go any other country to buy a car, buyers has the right to cancel the contract and forfeit the deposit. Here, car dealers can cancel the contract by bidding low COE price and don't need to compensate.

COE system started in 1990. It is 26 years old. Car dealers are the beneficiary and off course it's revenue for our reserves. As long as buyers say "bo pian" then why change.

You go any other country to buy a car, buyers has the right to cancel the contract and forfeit the deposit. Here, car dealers can cancel the contract by bidding low COE price and don't need to compensate.

I know you are frustrated. But nothing you can do Also

I know you are frustrated. But nothing you can do Also

Bro, I got my K3 almost 2 months ago so I am not affected. I understand the system and In fact I got $2K rebate. This is 3rd time I got a rebate for COE.
I bidded sine the 1st COE in 1990. Just feel sorry for the bros here who gets played by car dealers.

Hi all, FC for me is ard 15km/l...depends on whether how often I use expressways...the best I ever get was 16.39km/l or 6.1L/100km after heavy usage of expressways..I am pretty light footed I believe...still monitoring..

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Amazing FC you got. Mine averaging around 12-13 km/L.

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I think 15 km/L possible on NS highway on 100% expressway drive.

9km/l

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Wow, 9 km/L is bad. you gotta relax your foot a little bro.

Amazing FC you got. Mine averaging around 12-13 km/L.

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I think 15 km/L possible on NS highway on 100% expressway drive.

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Wow, 9 km/L is bad. you gotta relax your foot a little bro.

relax already.. even on highway i also get this figure.

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First got the car my tank can last 580km, then it drop to ard 480km now. I sent the car back and they told me computer say no error, they just set the car computer to auto reset everytime I pump but it doesnt change anything lol. Gave up on C&C

relax already.. even on highway i also get this figure.

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First got the car my tank can last 580km, then it drop to ard 480km now. I sent the car back and they told me computer say no error, they just set the car computer to auto reset everytime I pump but it doesnt change anything lol. Gave up on C&C

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The car computer not very accurate. plus minus 0.5.

Calculate manually more accurate.

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my worst was 10-11 km/L

The car computer not very accurate. plus minus 0.5.

Calculate manually more accurate.

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my worst was 10-11 km/L

its not calculated from computer, its my manual calculation, it wun be far apart when my full tank last until ard 480km and it blinks at 440km.

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Jiak you la.. anyway old car already..

The car computer not very accurate. plus minus 0.5.
Calculate manually more accurate.

my worst was 10-11 km/L

Manual caln as below:
2nd pump to full tank after delivery : 42.37L for 615km driven = 14.51km/L 847km mark
3rd pump to full tank : 47.85L for 578km driven = 12.08km/L 1,425km mark

Ya..The mileage I mentioned was based on the car computed figures..I haven't gone for 4th pump(first pump after 1,000km servicing). I heard after 1,000km, the FC will improve...the third pump was in the middle of before and after 1,000km servicing...

The COE system is totally unfair to the buyers. We sign a conditional contract with the car dealers and it give them a loop hole to get out when COE prices go up but does not allow buyers to get out when COE prices fall.

The strangest and most ridiculous thing is that buyers need to put a substantial down payment. In the financial world, the buyers would be the ones holding the option finger out when things are unfavorable since we buy that option with the down payment. Buyers gets the shorter ending the stick.
The problem is that buyers are so used to the unfair system and desperate to buy and hence nothing will change.
When COE prices are rising, it will work against you not to top out because the next car you book is going to coercion even more!

The contract is between you and the dealer. Should there be any unfairness it should be the dealer's clause...I cant see anything related to the COE system...

COE system started in 1990. It is 26 years old. Car dealers are the beneficiary and off course it's revenue for our reserves. As long as buyers say "bo pian" then why change.

You go any other country to buy a car, buyers has the right to cancel the contract and forfeit the deposit. Here, car dealers can cancel the contract by bidding low COE price and don't need to compensate.

How come you still sign the sales contract to buy a car if it's so unfair?

Unfortunately, there's a clause regarding the bidding that says something in the line of dealer reserves the right to not place any bids in the 6 rounds of bidding. If you signed the contract with the clause on it, then the dealer has the right to do it.

Highly likely the contract will not say that they are to hold a car for you during the bidding period too.

Thanks! I will go home and check on my contract. He still telling me it's my advantage to choose a new car if I manage to get my COE. Anyway, I'm a first time buyer and I'm no hurried to get a car. If can get coe for the upcoming bidding or the May 2nd bidding it's a bonus. If can't get also never mind will just take back my deposit.

How come you still sign the sales contract to buy a car if it's so unfair?

What a question.
No choice if you need a car in Singapore at the moment. Hopefully, things will change when more buyers are educated.

BTW, from your comments, you must be a car dealer or car SE. Are you?

The contract is between you and the dealer. Should there be any unfairness it should be the dealer's clause...I cant see anything related to the COE system...

Current COE system discourages.and disadvantage buyers from bidding for own COE. That's why dealers can insert unfair contract and buyers have to suck thumb.

No single buyer has the power to tell the dealer that they should remove such clause. However when an organization with a large order buys, do you think such clause will be accepted?
Not sure if it is possible or practical for individual buyers to group buy at present but if it happens, then things will be different.

What a question.
No choice if you need a car in Singapore at the moment. Hopefully, things will change when more buyers are educated.

BTW, from your comments, you must be a car dealer or car SE. Are you?

Nope

Comparatively, parallel importers gives u guaranteed COE at a lower price. Of course PIs have their issues too.

Manual caln as below:
2nd pump to full tank after delivery : 42.37L for 615km driven = 14.51km/L 847km mark
3rd pump to full tank : 47.85L for 578km driven = 12.08km/L 1,425km mark

Ya..The mileage I mentioned was based on the car computed figures..I haven't gone for 4th pump(first pump after 1,000km servicing). I heard after 1,000km, the FC will improve...the third pump was in the middle of before and after 1,000km servicing...

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It will get a bit better but it won't be magic, maybe 1km/L extra on average. Also as you get used to the car you will find the best way to drive it, which will also improve the FC.

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