"Everything works, whether its water, electricity, gas, telephone, telexes, it just has to work. If it doesn't work, I want to know why, and if I am not satisfied, and I often was not, the chief goes, and I have to find another chief. Firing the chief is very simple"
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1984 Rally speech - the late LKY
But if it's an honest mistake, let's move on.
But if it's an honest mistake, let's move on.
Here is like legion for we are many
We came here from the no Ns boy in mall thread
Move on also need a new body mah
sounds like someone gonna do the needful soon
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Well firing Kuek won't solve the problem.�
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Contingency plans will never work with the scale of the problem. Whole N-S and E-W all stations down.
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Recalling bus drivers is not as easy as playing sim city. Normal buses are still in service.
So u need to recall the off duty drivers, give them OT pay, give them buses they are not being used to be bridging services.
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In peak hour, GG. Can never get them in time to the stations even if u use up the entire bus fleet reserve.
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Logically speaking, the only way is to prevent such large scale systemic failure from happening. If one line is down, at least the contingency plan will work better.
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Well firing Kuek won't solve the problem.�
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Contingency plans will never work with the scale of the problem. Whole N-S and E-W all stations down.
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Recalling bus drivers is not as easy as playing sim city. Normal buses are still in service.
So u need to recall the off duty drivers, give them OT pay, give them buses they are not being used to be bridging services.
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In peak hour, GG. Can never get them in time to the stations even if u use up the entire bus fleet reserve.
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Logically speaking, the only way is to prevent such large scale systemic failure from happening. If one line is down, at least the contingency plan will work better.
I think they shd bring back parallel services between bus and rail.
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I remember sometime back it was the "in" thing to streamline and there was a deliberate action taken to eliminate parallel routes.
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Right now, they need it bec the rail system cannot cope.
Siao liao lor...
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When you big boss tag you on social media saying your dept has him concerned and worried.
Siao liao lor...
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When you big boss tag you on social media saying your dept has him concerned and worried.
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Hahaha�
Siao liao lor...
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When you big boss tag you on social media saying your dept has him concerned and worried.
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aiyah, he just soothing the commuters nerves ....
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one gen axe another gen ...... not here lah, let's move on.
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Seems like our ministers can only show "concern". Everything they say is "concerned".
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Please pay me $2m. I can also say "concern" whenever something happens. This word is jin expensive.
Seems there was no emergency lighting or ventilation in the cabin, in times like this ? Why ah ?
Wat if smrt jus close mrt lines for 3-4 days n hv buses as back up to cut down on inconveniences. Engineers n techs can do a thorough checks n repairs. Guess cable ties n half ass repairs during saw's tenure, starting to bite desmond quek n lty asses
This is a very good idea, do a thorough check n RCA
Seems there was no emergency lighting or ventilation in the cabin, in times like this ? Why ah ?
Wa.....no ventilation can get quite dangerous...
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Seems like our ministers can only show "concern". Everything they say is "concerned".
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Please pay me $2m. I can also say "concern" whenever something happens. This word is jin expensive.
They run out of vocabulary liao, everyone using this word now...
i jin heng...i just got off the train at 655pm......phewwww.....
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I know the feeling.
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I changed from East West to North East line
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at 7.15pm at Outram.
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yes totally �.. there are a few right now .. really wanna sock them in the eye , especially with a "swearing name" and a semi bucktooth face
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The late OTC has a dignified face, almost can see a halo above his head.
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The MPs nowadays, sometimes I just want to punch them in the face.
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Wat if smrt jus close mrt lines for 3-4 days n hv buses as back up to cut down on inconveniences. Engineers n techs can do a thorough checks n repairs. Guess cable ties n half ass repairs during saw's tenure, starting to bite desmond quek n lty asses
It happened the last time during the "cable tie" saga but shutdown only 1 day. This time is definitely more serious and 3-4 days shutdown will create havoc.
Seems there was no emergency lighting or ventilation in the cabin, in times like this ? Why ah ?
At least have backup power and ventilation fans for every carriage. Good to have fire extinguishers, this may come in handy during power outage.
Not sure if shared, but here goes mr brown. :)
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answers your question�alot, aint it
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3 persons to lifted the track, 2 persons to to�slot in a�plank, & apparently without much safety considerations.
I am not an expert in railway maintainence, but�I think some�proper Jacks & 2 men will be sufficient & safer.��
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I am divided about quantity vs quality approach. On one hand, I guess most Singaporeans do not want to do manual work, & I doubt any school actually teaches railway�tech & job. You can send people to�Germany or�Japan maybe�where�schools actually train skilled rail workers, but chances are, these people will leave after a few years (job hop) which defeated any value.
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You can have good engineers, good equipments (not that I see it in the picture. Does that yellow tool looks like design to handle the planks?), but if you have poor untrain workers, then�there is only so much you can expect.�
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I have a crazy idea. How about instead of quantity, look for people in neigbouring countries, decently educated, & give them decent pay, with chance of promotion like everyone else�&�and send them for training. As long as they stay with SMRT, so something along this line,�they can remain as Singapore & live a decent life here. I rather have 2 good skill workers with proper equipement than 5 manual unskilled workers.
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Seems like our ministers can only show "concern". Everything they say is "concerned".
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Please pay me $2m. I can also say "concern" whenever something happens. This word is jin expensive.
Concerned is not enough.
Have to use utterly extremely concerned.
Concerned is not enough.
Have to use utterly extremely concerned.
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I will use "from hair to toe deadly utterly extremely concerned" That should worth at least $5m
If everyone switches on their phone, it's not so bad la. Not so dark.Commuters engulfed in darkness during train breakdown-
http://singaporeseen...train-breakdown
Hey what about stringing all the mobile phones together to provide power to the trains in times like this. Hahahhaahahah.
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those who bought SMRT shares and take MRT shall not complain ... hehe
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hmm, didn't come across any talk from LTA/LTY of giving SMRT a fine.
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In 2013, M1 was fined a record breaking $1.5m for service disruptions. No doubt it was a 71 hr system disruption.
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In meting out the fine, IDA said "M1 did not fulfilled obligations to provide resilient mobile telephone services "
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"M1 failed to provide good electrical installation practices ". The disruption was caused by water entering a piece of equipment.
Perhaps lta is letting them focus on solving the issues rather than giving them additional stress now
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hmm, didn't come across any talk from LTA/LTY of giving SMRT a fine.
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In 2013, M1 was fined a record breaking $1.5m for service disruptions. No doubt it was a 71 hr system disruption.
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In meting out the fine, IDA said "M1 did not fulfilled obligations to provide resilient mobile telephone services "
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"M1 failed to provide good electrical installation practices ". The disruption was caused by water entering a piece of equipment.
They just love to teck yew ... hohoho
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nb...alwes disturb beemer.... �
They just love to teck yew ... hohoho
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ahem...so says the fella who gonna collect his...hahahahaha
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ahem...so says the fella who gonna collect his...hahahahaha
I already lost 6k as of yesterday ... teck yew man ! Hahha
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lol...drive less, drink kopi more at PML...kekekeke make up for the 6k
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knn, i pumped Monday night, now lose 3c per liter, so i go have 1 kopi, make up for it...hahahahahahah
.. how much was beemer 4 yrs back compare to now ?
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lol...drive less, drink kopi more at PML...kekekeke make up for the 6k
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knn, i pumped Monday night, now lose 3c per liter, so i go have 1 kopi, make up for it...hahahahahahah
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Penny wise, pound foolish. Kns, buy beemer and kiam petrol!U no use china petrol ?
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Any different in the petrol from different providers ?
Penny wise, pound foolish. Kns, buy beemer and kiam petrol!
Penny wise, pound foolish. Kns, buy beemer and kiam petrol!
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ahahhaha,...you know we jibbing each other nia....
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bottomline is if one needs to ask abt FC for beemer, best dun buy...lol
Any different in the petrol from different providers ?
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funny is my FC for 98 is 11.5 km/l but for v-power, 12.3km/l....hahah
U no use china petrol ?
.. how much was beemer 4 yrs back compare to now ?
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back then, 230k, and COE was 89k...hahha...
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seems mine more worth it....lollll
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ahahhaha,...you know we jibbing each other nia....
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bottomline is if one needs to ask abt FC for beemer, best dun buy...lol
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i stick with see-hum. �every month i pump v-powder once..just to clean the engine. �
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funny is my FC for 98 is 11.5 km/l but for v-power, 12.3km/l....hahah
Clean engine just squirt some Turboflat4 juice lah
mix 4 brands per 1/4 tank each ... your beemer immediately +50bhp ... hehe
first, you need to find a street that has shell, esso, caltex and spc in a row ... lol
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Any different in the petrol from different providers ?
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bottomline is if one needs to ask abt FC for beemer, best dun buy...lol
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funny is my FC for 98 is 11.5 km/l but for v-power, 12.3km/l....hahah
Hahha hard to find 4 of the station side by side haha.
mix 4 brands per 1/4 tank each ... your beemer immediately +50bhp ... hehe
first, you need to find a street that has shell, esso, caltex and spc in a row ... lol
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If US/UK oil major buy it and rebrand it as Americar Gas and everyone will think sibei powderful, smooth as baby's bottom�liao.
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Used shell, china, esso and caltex. I get very poor fuel consumption with shell engine smooth. China, poor fc and rough ride. Esso good fc, slight growl from engine. Caltex slightly poor fc relative to esso but very smooth ride. So i generally use caltex.
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funny is my FC for 98 is 11.5 km/l but for v-power, 12.3km/l....hahah
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12.3km/l... nb how can that be possible? you must be driving like turtle.
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In the end .. they all dig from the same dirty Asian oil well ..
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If US/UK oil major buy it and rebrand it as Americar Gas and everyone will think sibei powderful, smooth as baby's bottom�liao.
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If PETRONAS, China,�Merlion�companies, people say bo hoh.
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12.3km/l... nb how can that be possible? you must be driving like turtle.
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probably 90% expressway and he drives at 3am in the morning.
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probably 90% expressway and he drives at 3am in the morning.
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Ya.... likely... that's when all the souls are wandering around
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12.3km/l... nb how can that be possible? you must be driving like turtle.
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Ya.... likely... that's when all the souls are wandering around
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3 persons to lifted the track, 2 persons to to�slot in a�plank, & apparently without much safety considerations.
I am not an expert in railway maintainence, but�I think some�proper Jacks & 2 men will be sufficient & safer.��
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I am divided about quantity vs quality approach. On one hand, I guess most Singaporeans do not want to do manual work, & I doubt any school actually teaches railway�tech & job. You can send people to�Germany or�Japan maybe�where�schools actually train skilled rail workers, but chances are, these people will leave after a few years (job hop) which defeated any value.
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You can have good engineers, good equipments (not that I see it in the picture. Does that yellow tool looks like design to handle the planks?), but if you have poor untrain workers, then�there is only so much you can expect.�
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I have a crazy idea. How about instead of quantity, look for people in neigbouring countries, decently educated, & give them decent pay, with chance of promotion like everyone else�&�and send them for training. As long as they stay with SMRT, so something along this line,�they can remain as Singapore & live a decent life here. I rather have 2 good skill workers with proper equipement than 5 manual unskilled workers.
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Errrrr............I think u see wrongly leh. There is no way they use manpower to lift the track. See the blue thing in the background, that is one of the few jacks used to lift the track. Manpower is used only to properly shift the concrete plank in place and bolt it to the metal tracks.
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Following that, they will use a vibrator machine to vibrate the gravels around the plank for it to seat properly. Then the foreman/engineer will use a laser/leveler to check if the rail lines are correctly seated.
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probably 90% expressway and he drives at 3am in the morning.
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on the contrary, if you drive too slow, you induce extra drag, get more FC...hahahha
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i early morning go lah, highway 80%...duh....
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That's my thought as well. Never drive below 100km/h on highway
yeah, same thing with power boat and aeroplane, cannot go too slow, else�fuel efficiency is not optimized.
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That's my thought as well. Never drive below 100km/h on highway
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sounds like someone gonna do the needful soon
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i dont think LHL has the iron in him to do the needful
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many recent examples such as the SK columbarium saga
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i dont think LHL has the iron in him to do the needful
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many recent examples such as the SK columbarium saga
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Then he better give it up
Were they fined before last time? Thought i read before somewhere...if so, this time would get it too
Perhaps lta is letting them focus on solving the issues rather than giving them additional stress now
Yep, they had been fine before. Think LTA build the system (bulk of d infra cost) and let the private companies run and maintained it. Believe LTA is aware tat d system is getting older by d days n problems here n there keep on surfacing. So if keep on fining, d private companies possibly run into deficit and shareholders don't get dividend. The best option is to de-privatized d rail system where d gahment got unlimited fund to bring d rail system to a world class standard. After all, it's a MASS transport system, so d gahment should be providing n running it. Let d private companies operate buses to compete with it. That's is competition.
Yep, they had been fine before. Think LTA build the system (bulk of d infra cost) and let the private companies run and maintained it. Believe LTA is aware tat d system is getting older by d days n problems here n there keep on surfacing. So if keep on fining, d private companies possibly run into deficit and shareholders don't get dividend. The best option is to de-privatized d rail system where d gahment got unlimited fund to bring d rail system to a world class standard. After all, it's a MASS transport system, so d gahment should be providing n running it. Let d private companies operate buses to compete with it. That's is competition.
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An opposition party suggest this idea and it got shot down by the transport minister.
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IMO they think they have the best company and best ppl on the job. They won't listen and this will be the last thing on their mind.
Public transport should never be privatized.
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totally agree the PUBLIC is there for a reason...
Public transport should never be privatized.
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They will never set budget for public transport. They rather set budget for doing stupid things like YOG and building casinos.
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They will never set budget for public transport. They rather set budget for doing stupid things like YOG and building casinos.
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got priorities all wrong IMO.
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Dunno if they actually see that these kind of breakdowns can cripple the economy somewhat
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got priorities all wrong IMO.
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Dunno if they actually see that these kind of breakdowns can cripple the economy somewhat
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The ppl suffer, not them. They will just brush their mistakes aside and say "move on".
Public transport should never be privatized.
If dont privatized, then how to officially get monies from it.
Once privatized then, you can buy shares and earn dividend from it.
As to which familee owns most of transport, telco, fmcg shares......you know, i know
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I think the SMRT CEO's KPI is also measured by the number of breakdowns SMRT experiences. The more breakdowns, the higher his bonus. That's probably why this year his salary hit the roof, as there are so many breakdowns this year. With the latest breakdown causing 100% MRT down, I think they will give him another 100% bonus!
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i think you have gotten it wrong
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more breakdowns mean less bonus
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if there is no breakdown this year, his bonus would have been $5M
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and should not �be public listed also!
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Precisely. Once it's privatized, everything will be about profit. Maintenance and reliability can go out of the window since maintenance is always cost and doesn't generate money.
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The lack of maintenance during that bloody Saw period has come back to bite them HARD. Hope it will cost PAP some votes in the upcoming election.
where got...the yr has not ended yet.....smelly smelly its 10 million hor!�
i think you have gotten it wrong
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more breakdowns mean less bonus
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if there is no breakdown this year, his bonus would have been $5M
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Precisely. Once it's privatized, everything will be about profit. Maintenance and reliability can go out of the window since maintenance is always cost and doesn't generate money.
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The lack of maintenance during that bloody Saw period has come back to bite them HARD. Hope it will cost PAP some votes in the upcoming election.
Ya...who made this decision huh...should ask him to helm SMRT now
Ya...who made this decision huh...should ask him to helm SMRT now
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i don't think is one person, I think normally is�the board of directors decides who gets to be ceo
Actually the ground staff cannot do anything, they just take instructions from the top
The head should start rolling from the top
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i don't think is one person, I think normally is�the board of directors decides who gets to be ceo
Hee hee....who made the decision to privatize transport him....very easy, just get the same guy to go become ceo
Actually the ground staff cannot do anything, they just take instructions from the top
The head should start rolling from the top
Hee hee....who made the decision to privatize transport him....very easy, just get the same guy to go become ceo
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oh I see the privatize decision
I cant remember
I recall seeing a news paper cutting touting the benefits of privatizing public transport in mcf
if someone can find it, would be good (for stirring)�
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oh I see the privatize decision
I cant remember
I recall seeing a news paper cutting touting the benefits of privatizing public transport in mcf
if someone can find it, would be good (for stirring)�
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Just wondering whether still have fare increases next year or not...
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Fares increased so many times to justify their maintenance and the ceo's pay... and yet we still ganna trains faults and down...
Why can't the fare increase based on the nos. of times the trains' down?
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Say, if no trains down for 1 year, fare increases 3 cents
If trains down 1 time in year, fare reduces 1 cent
If trains down 2 times, fares reduces 2 cents ...
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Possible?
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Just wondering whether still have fare increases next year or not...
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Fares increased so many times to justify their maintenance and the ceo's pay... and yet we still ganna trains faults and down...
Why can't the fare increase based on the nos. of times the trains' down?
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Say, if no trains down for 1 year, fare increases 3 cents
If trains down 1 time in year, fare reduces 1 cent
If trains down 2 times, fares reduces 2 cents ...
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Possible?
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This is singapore...you say leh?
Just wondering whether still have fare increases next year or not...
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Fares increased so many times to justify their maintenance and the ceo's pay... and yet we still ganna trains faults and down...
Why can't the fare increase based on the nos. of times the trains' down?
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Say, if no trains down for 1 year, fare increases 3 cents
If trains down 1 time in year, fare reduces 1 cent
If trains down 2 times, fares reduces 2 cents ...
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Not possible la.
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Under your model, they will be paying us to take the trains in no time.
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And there will also be no trains to take.
Just wondering whether still have fare increases next year or not...
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Fares increased so many times to justify their maintenance and the ceo's pay... and yet we still ganna trains faults and down...
Why can't the fare increase based on the nos. of times the trains' down?
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Say, if no trains down for 1 year, fare increases 3 cents
If trains down 1 time in year, fare reduces 1 cent
If trains down 2 times, fares reduces 2 cents ...
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Confirm increase one, the formula is
fare increase Increases as no. of breakdowns increase
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Wa...u r our resident expert...so old news u also can find
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Not possible la.
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Under your model, they will be paying us to take the trains in no time.
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And there will also be no trains to take.
The 2.5mio CEO should be standing there and apologies to everyone as long as the train is down.�
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hey guys check this out!!!!
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http://sgag.sg/posts...iu-lan-rhapsody
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�20 hours�ago
Is this the rail life? Is this just fantasy?
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http://www.clubsnap....952#post9174952
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hey guys check this out!!!!
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SMRT presents to you, Boh-Hiu-Lan Rhapsody�20 hours�ago
Is this the rail life? Is this just fantasy?
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Is this the rail life?Is this just fantasyCaught in a packed rideNo escape from this MRT.Open your eyesLook up to the skyAnd flee�
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I'm just a poor boyDon't bid for COEBecause I'm easy come, easy go,Raffles Place, Ang Mo KioAnyway the lights blow, doesn't really matter to me.�
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Mama, just left the trainWalking home to my bedRoads are jammed, trains are dead.Mama, ride had just begun,But now I've gone and thrown my EZ-link awayMama ooooooohDidn't mean to make Lui cryIf I'm not back again this time tomorrowCarry on, carry onas if nothing really matters...��Credits to Billy Teo�� Adapted from original Bohemian Rhapsody song by Queen ���
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LMAO!� +100
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LMAO!� +100
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I tested the lyrics
it actually works!!!
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SMRT presents to you, Boh-Hiu-Lan Rhapsody�20 hours�ago
Is this the rail life? Is this just fantasy?
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ahhaha Saw this yesterday ......... funny lel but why no one sing it ........ ask Mr brown to sing hahaha
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ahhaha Saw this yesterday ......... funny lel but why no one sing it ........ ask Mr brown to sing hahaha
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ahhaha Saw this yesterday ......... funny lel but why no one sing it ........ ask Mr brown to sing hahaha
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Mr Brown sing "the tuck yew song" liao.
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hahaha classic sia ....... sound like the MRT to me hahaha
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Mr Brown sing "the tuck yew song" liao.
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hahaha classic sia ....... sound like the MRT to me hahaha
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both are queen songs
someone should get permission from queen to do mrt songs and chut mrt albums
Anyone "sang" that Bohemian Rhapsody in their heads with the origina Queen/Freddie voices?
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Cos I sure did...
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I see a little silhouette-oh of a man
Desmond Kuek Desmond Kuek
Did you get a huge pay rise
MRT no power
Got no time to shower-eeee
Liu tuck yew (Liu tuck yew)
Liu tuck yew (liu tuck yew)
Liu tuck yew go figure
You benefitsssssss
I'm just a poor boy
Don't bid for COE
(HE'S JUST A POOR BOY FROM A POOR FAMILY SPENDING HIS LIFE ON THE TRAIN MONSTROSITY)
Easy come easy go
How to let this go
(ITS THE WORST! NOOOOO WE WILL NOT LET IT GO, LET IT GOOOOO)
(ITS THE WORST! NOOOOO WE WILL NOT LET IT GO, LET IT GOOOOO)
(ITS THE WORST! NOOOOO WE WILL NOT LET IT GO, LET IT GOOOOO)
Never let it go
Never never let it gooooo
No no no no no no NO!
Oh Desmond Kuek ah Desmond Kuek ah (Desmond Kuek we won't let you go)
You earn so much yet you wanna raise the fares, the fares, THE FAREEESSSSSS
*HEADBANG*
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Anyone "sang" that Bohemian Rhapsody in their heads with the origina Queen/Freddie voices?
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Cos I sure did...
Me too
That's why I consperm the lyrics work
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i think you have gotten it wrong
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if there is no breakdown this year, his bonus would have been $5M
If measured by breakdowns, bet with my last dollar, every years he will not get bonus. Should include d chief of LTA & LTY too. Then they really got to bulk up. Otherwise, hear d same story, "sorry for d commuters"
u sing in your mind.....i sang out loud sia...Me too
That's why I consperm the lyrics work
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