mycarforum: ALL consolidated SMRT/NEL/KTM simisai BREAKDOWNS here! part 12

if i recall correctly ... Desmond took the MRT during AM peak when he joined SMRT ... but he went from Bishan to Jurong East, of course not packed like sardines and can ask reporter to take picture of him shaking hands with commuters lah ...
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to me that is just wayang, got balls take AM peak train from Bishan to Raffles Place then talk.
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I give him a P ... Pui ...
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imagine we had to go to war with this type of General ...

Haha fired watch your front. He run/retract backward.

If really fine 50m, jialat liao.....who gets the loading on transport costs....we all know....

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Ganna fine $50 mil, then the next fare hike will be increase $0.50 cents per trip

Only huat for garmen !

fine the board of directors lor

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Ganna fine $50 mil, then the next fare hike will be increase $0.50 cents per trip

Only huat for garmen !

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Even ignoring the fare hike, SMRT is 54% owned by Temasek. If they fine SMRT 50 mil that is as good as fining Temasek 27 mil.

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And who are the owners of Temasek? We are.

Latest heard they asking old retrenched ... I mean retired engineers for help :-)
They are doing all they can.. Short of praying to the gods... Or they did that already ? :-)

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Even ignoring the fare hike, SMRT is 54% owned by Temasek. If they fine SMRT 50 mil that is as good as fining Temasek 27 mil.
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And who are the owners of Temasek? We are.

Good point

Can't they just fine that 50m then invest that 50m back to invest in improving our Mrt system

All these issues actually should be those in charge of public transport worrying and solving for us

How ironic that public end up thinking of ways to solve the issues because the ceo who is well paid havent improve the reliability of services

Latest heard they asking old retrenched ... I mean retired engineers for help :-)
They are doing all they can.. Short of praying to the gods... Or they did that already ? :-)

Hee hee...this shows one thing...these people may be old

But oldies are goodies

Experience counts and it's a nice mindset shift, don't just rely on scholars who are smart but haven't seen enough

The old saying is nice 'eat salt more than eat rice'

Edited by Pinobii, 11 July 2015 - 09:51 AM.

Good point

Can't they just fine that 50m then invest that 50m back to invest in improving our Mrt system

All these issues actually should be those in charge of public transport worrying and solving for us

How ironic that public end up thinking of ways to solve the issues because the ceo who is well paid havent improve the reliability of services

Hee hee...this shows one thing...these people may be old

But oldies are goodies

Experience counts and it's a nice mindset shift, don't just rely on scholars who are smart but haven't seen enough

The old saying is nice 'eat salt more than eat rice'

In the first place, they shouldn't have retrenched or asked these experienced ex-staff to leave...
Smrt basically an engineering transportation company, not some billboard company... Really need core experienced technical staff, rather than some sales talk ppl...

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think a lot of ppl will be buying North South Line ...

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can buy LRT boh� ? I wan to buy Bt Panjang one ...

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HUAT AH !

LRT customer base not so big enuf , so please wait .... and wait

Latest heard they asking old retrenched ... I mean retired engineers for help :-)
They are doing all they can.. Short of praying to the gods... Or they did that already ? :-)

Like this? [grin]

https://m.youtube.co...?v=o7XbH3iz734o

In the first place, they shouldn't have retrenched or asked these experienced ex-staff to leave...
Smrt basically an engineering transportation company, not some billboard company... Really need core experienced technical staff, rather than some sales talk ppl...

Old experienced guys get retrench?
Did mrt really do that?
If yes, under whose watch and why?
If retrenched, why would these oldies come back and help?
Maybe they offer $2m? [laugh]

Old experienced guys get retrench?
Did mrt really do that?
If yes, under whose watch and why?
If retrenched, why would these oldies come back and help?
Maybe they offer $2m?

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they offer them free train rides....that is, when the train can move.

why they do not take another inquiry again?

last time's inquiry wasted mill dollar for useless report!!!

If those money payed to the worker for MRT maintaining in the first line,

This breakdown will not happen.

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I have been thinking for a while about writing a book on stupid arguments people used on the Internet, & this one certainly deserved a spot. Saving this quote for my reference.�

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I haven't got a name for this agrument yet, but the idea is when asked about a failure, & how to improve, & the basis of this argument is to present an extreme scenario that cannot be met, with the idea that you cannot made any improvement to met that scenario.....so you do not need to improve, or as a imigation for the failure!

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This same argument is used by SMRT when asked about the braekdown. ��

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When ask about breakdown, they answered that you can double maintainance or stuff, you still cannot prevent breakdown 100%.�

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Hmmm, damn he is right, on matter what, you cannot prevent breakdown 100%...maybe we are being harsh......oh wait!

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If you still unclear why this argument is poor, let's see an example

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Mother: You score 65% in your maths test, boy I think you need to work harder. I am reducing you playtime, & up your study time.

Boy:But, but I can study 8 hours a day, 12 on weekends, but still it is almost impossible to get 100% in all subjects.

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(then went back & play his ipad)

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Mother: (Smiling while taking away his ipad.). Nice try, now get back to study.�

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I help you find a name for your argument.

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COMPLACENT

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adjective

showing smug or uncritical satisfaction with oneself or one's achievements
feeling or showing satisfaction and lack of worry or caution
Satisfied with the current situation and unconcerned with changing it, often to the point of smugness
The literal meaning of this word's Latin root is "very pleased," but even though complacent people may seem pleased with themselves, we are rarely pleased with them. They are unconcerned by things that should concern them, and they may neglect their duties. A complacent person might be heard saying, "Ehh, don't worry about it!" � when there really is something to worry about.

Dear LTA

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Please do not fine SMRT. I forgive them.

A $2 million fine here and a $4 million fine there

and soon we will be talking about real money.

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What's the point of fining them? It will be

coming out of MY pocket and I didn't do anything wrong.

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Its not as if the money is going to come out of the pay check

of the CEO or the directors.

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LTA Here is an idea you may like to try.

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Every break down, take it from pay of the CEO

and�the directors.

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This is the beauty of the free enterprise�system.�

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Free enterprise is not only million dollar salaries

but�also paying the price for not succeeding.

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Lets not have free enterprise when paying million

dollar salaries and iron rice bowls when they fail.

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If there is no change to the system.

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Then emm can I have the CEO�job please?

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Its the job my parents always wanted me to have

so they can travel around the world in style�in their

old age.

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Dear MCF bros and sis

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I am sorry but I am selling out.

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I am not supporting all this CEO salary is too high

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anymore as I am going after the job myself.

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I now honestly think $2.5m is not high enough

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and I will be supporting calls to make it $5m.

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However I will be supporting calls for heads to roll

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so that there will be a vacancy

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so that it can be filled by me.�

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Like this?

https://m.youtube.co...?v=o7XbH3iz734o

Old experienced guys get retrench?
Did mrt really do that?
If yes, under whose watch and why?
If retrenched, why would these oldies come back and help?
Maybe they offer $2m?

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No $2m? [grin]

joking niah
You got see the pushing away of the vending machine in the YouTube link?
Represents pushing the frivolous and profiteering away

In the first place, they shouldn't have retrenched or asked these experienced ex-staff to leave...
Smrt basically an engineering transportation company, not some billboard company... Really need core experienced technical staff, rather than some sales talk ppl...

And u won't wanna know how pathetic their pay and annual increments are.
The working level I mean.

This is the most mind-boggling statistic. 7K per MONTH is already good pay for a professional jnr to mid lvl manager. Per day is just unbelievable. What to do with so much money??

7k per day is roughly just below 1k per hour. $15 per min let's say. Walk to toilet, pee then walk back already earn $100+.

7k per day to clean shit.

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if can clean up , its a job well done.

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if cannot clean up, 'well its shit left behind for me to clean, wat do u expect '

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still collect 7k per day ,�

Transport giant SMRT could face a fine of up to

$50 million following the massive MRT disruption on Tuesday, according to a market analyst.

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Oh no I better start saving up to pay the fine.

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Why should the public pay when it was us

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the commuters that suffered.�

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Take it from the salary of the CEO and directors.

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And if I get the job of the new CEO, cut the last

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CEO salary and not mine please. [thumbsup]

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Actually $2m for a CEO today is considered very low pay. So quickly quit and join private sector. Prease.

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Oh no I better start saving up to pay the fine.

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Why should the public pay when it was us

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the commuters that suffered.�

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Take it from the salary of the CEO and directors.

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And if I get the job of the new CEO, cut the last

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CEO salary and not mine please.

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They should instead pay cut or freeze the pay of the CEO and directors in SMRT. Fine SMRT also no use, cause in the end commuters still suffered from breakdown and fare hike.

Unfortunately it is usually the board that decides his salary, and the board is motiviated by shareholders' value more so than train reliability. When the train breaks down, life goes on, and SMRT continues to be the sole operator of designated train lines, there is no competitor or impact to the company revenue.

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They should instead pay cut or freeze the pay of the CEO and directors in SMRT. Fine SMRT also no use, cause in the end commuters still suffered from breakdown and fare hike.

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In the first place, they shouldn't have retrenched or asked these experienced ex-staff to leave...
Smrt basically an engineering transportation company, not some billboard company... Really need core experienced technical staff, rather than some sales talk ppl...

That's d problem those young scholars or paper general think these older ppl slow, stubborn n drawing higher salary can easily be replaced with younger, cheaper n more educated ppl. They believe experience can easily be learned. Yes, normal maintenance can follow book but not real time trouble shooting. Don't pray pray with old hand n experience hor.

Edited by keanie, 11 July 2015 - 10:36 PM.

Good one. ...haha..

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i read in the papers that wrote how gracious singaporeans are when faced with majar breakdown and how chaotic the situation was.

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but its is totally the opposite when most of my colleagues lamented how furious and impatient everyone was especially when all were trapped in the station.

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gold 90.5FM???�

i read in the papers that wrote how gracious singaporeans are when faced with majar breakdown and how chaotic the situation was.
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but its is totally the opposite when most of my colleagues lamented how furious and impatient everyone was especially when all were trapped in the station.
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gold 90.5FM???�

They will never know how peasant at ground zero felt....

They will never know how peasant at ground zero felt....

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i totally agree with you.

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come , i clap for you.... :a-happy:

New betting from sillypools...

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i read in the papers that wrote how gracious singaporeans are when faced with majar breakdown and how chaotic the situation was.

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but its is totally the opposite when most of my colleagues lamented how furious and impatient everyone was especially when all were trapped in the station.

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gold 90.5FM???�

I believe anyone who got trapped in the station or inside the train would be furious and impatient. Esp when the train and station was super crowded! How could it be reported as gracious?

They will never know how peasant at ground zero felt....

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Nope. LTY just to log onto his own facebook page and he will know how people feel.

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Newspaper is just writing rubbish as usual.

i read in the papers that wrote how gracious singaporeans are when faced with majar breakdown and how chaotic the situation was.
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but its is totally the opposite when most of my colleagues lamented how furious and impatient everyone was especially when all were trapped in the station.
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gold 90.5FM???�

Who are the boss of the news. Some how, they are connected to MRT too. Take the news as a pinch of salt. Oops they are boss of this forum too. If I kena delay, I also hopping mad, esp soo.... often.

Edited by keanie, 12 July 2015 - 12:51 AM.

i read in the papers that wrote how gracious singaporeans are when faced with majar breakdown and how chaotic the situation was.

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but its is totally the opposite when most of my colleagues lamented how furious and impatient everyone was especially when all were trapped in the station.

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gold 90.5FM???�

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Depends on who you ask. My colleagues who were trapped on their way home felt its ok. Most people are kind and helpful.

Edited by Nzy, 12 July 2015 - 01:42 AM.

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Depends on who you ask. My colleagues who were trapped on their way home felt its ok. Most people are kind and helpful.

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i was told the station was jam packed and people that are trying to get out are shouting at people who wants to go in...chaotic :beaten: :a-bang: :a-confused:

Dear LTA

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Please do not fine SMRT. I forgive them.

A $2 million fine here and a $4 million fine there

and soon we will be talking about real money.

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What's the point of fining them? It will be

coming out of MY pocket and I didn't do anything wrong.

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Its not as if the money is going to come out of the pay check

of the CEO or the directors.

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LTA Here is an idea you may like to try.

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Every break down, take it from pay of the CEO

and�the directors.

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This is the beauty of the free enterprise�system.�

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Free enterprise is not only million dollar salaries

but�also paying the price for not succeeding.

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Lets not have free enterprise when paying million

dollar salaries and iron rice bowls when they fail.

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If there is no change to the system.

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Then emm can I have the CEO�job please?

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Its the job my parents always wanted me to have

so they can travel around the world in style�in their

old age.

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Bro, like that no more CEO..... all just worker..... CEO get paid $2.5mil... but kena summon $5mil.... need to top up $2.5mil own money..... pai tan.....� :TT_TT:

Dear MCF bros and sis

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I am sorry but I am selling out.

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I am not supporting all this CEO salary is too high

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anymore as I am going after the job myself.

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I now honestly think $2.5m is not high enough

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and I will be supporting calls to make it $5m.

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However I will be supporting calls for heads to roll

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so that there will be a vacancy

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so that it can be filled by me.�

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I urge �you to re-consider to join the SMRT..... they are in a mess and they needed someone to take the rap...... you be tie to the track to dry if the train breakdown under your watch.....� :XD:

I urge �you to re-consider to join the SMRT..... they are in a mess and they needed someone to take the rap...... you be tie to the track to dry if the train breakdown under your watch.....�

I would do it with lower pay... 2.4m maybe?

Newspaper dam funny

Got this from edmw
http://forums.hardwa...wn-5104724.html

Newspaper dam funny

Got this from edmw
http://forums.hardwa...wn-5104724.html

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Haha...

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If it's not his to claim credit for.....it's not his indeed.

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Anyway for whatever awards the SMRT receives the people who deserve the credit should be the ones doing all the ground work and troubleshooting.

i read in the papers that wrote how gracious singaporeans are when faced with majar breakdown and how chaotic the situation was.
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but its is totally the opposite when most of my colleagues lamented how furious and impatient everyone was especially when all were trapped in the station.
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gold 90.5FM???�

My colleague told me there were fight at jurong east bus stop due to queue cutters.

My colleague told me there were fight at jurong east bus stop due to queue cutters.

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wow oh wow.....this is ungracious i must say. Sad to say singaporean in the past are known for queuing up for just about anything.

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not sure for now, now that......... -_- :a-no:

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Haha...
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If it's not his to claim credit for.....it's not his indeed.
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Anyway for whatever awards the SMRT receives the people who deserve the credit should be the ones doing all the ground work and troubleshooting.

This kuek sounded like Brandon Roger. Open mouth big big.

a MRT operator not far from us is always lauded for being more efficient.

perhaps our MRT got on a wrong start, a wrong model will bring problems .... can we be humble to learn from others.

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Good one. ...haha..

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hahaha funny

Newspaper dam funny

Got this from edmw
http://forums.hardwa...wn-5104724.html

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hahaha he really jinx to SMRT ......

really have to take my hats off to Mr Lee.

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what he says is true, he still around to make sure things are right

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provided people still listen to him......or they only want to hear the good stuffs [grin] �

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Edited by Staff69, 12 July 2015 - 02:04 PM.

And who are the owners of Temasek? We are.

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prease lor...

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Ah Gong's money is Ah Gong's money,

our money is oso Ah Gong's money� [:p]

Newspaper dam funny

Got this from edmw
http://forums.hardwa...wn-5104724.html

It's not funny leh. The newspaper doing a right thing to tell Desmond he is d jinx of these MRT breakdowns. Two times, he opened his mouth, some thing bad happen. Cannot be co-incidence leh. I can't imagine what will happen if he open his mouth again. Feel soli for d maintenance crews & d ppl taking d trains. May be they should take leave or skip taking d trains when Desmond open his big mouth.

Edited by keanie, 12 July 2015 - 05:24 PM.

I think its the whole SAF scholar thing.... remember LTY..... when he become Transport mini-star, MRT break down.... think need to replace with non SAF scholar.... now this Kwek fella open mouth also dai chi liao liao.....� [lipsrsealed] � [rolleyes]

It's not funny leh. The newspaper doing a right thing to tell Desmond he is d jinx of these MRT breakdowns. Two times, he opened his mouth, some thing bad happen. Cannot be co-incidence leh. I can't imagine what will happen if he open his mouth again. Feel soli for d maintenance crews & d ppl taking d trains. May be they should take leave or skip taking d trains when Desmond open his big mouth.

Take leave for use meh
Jitao recall manning [laugh]

Take leave for use meh
Jitao recall manning

Paiseh, didn't explain clearly. Wat I meant, once Desmond open big mouth, commuters try skip or take leave from taking MRT rather getting stuck. However, maintenance crews bopian die die also kena call back.

Paiseh, didn't explain clearly. Wat I meant, once Desmond open big mouth, commuters try skip or take leave from taking MRT rather getting stuck. However, maintenance crews bopian die die also kena call back.

Orh I see

http://www.theonline...ent-breakdowns/

The old birds speak up, apparently the problem already started since year 2003 where the management team bo hiu those lao jiao advise on their findings. They find it is getting more and more difficult to work with the management team and one by one resign . The downfall start from there.

Now the management team have to seriously review the whole process of their management as they been doing it all backwards for past 11 to 13 yrs.

Hopefully they bring in those lao jiao in to look into this recent disruptions, the management team should RESPECT them and listen carefully to what they have to say. If the management team cannot even do this simple task, then out they go. Smrt cannot continue to keep staff that is of just yes man type of people that do not know anything on the ground and just want themselves to look good only.

Will smrt management able to do this simple request? Let's wait and see..

Edited by Yewheng, 13 July 2015 - 09:31 PM.

Ya, heard d morale of those lao jiao really really very low many many years ago. But never realised it's true and so bad. At that time heard some lao jiao experts in various fields under those so called consultants in projects were unhappy too. They were ask to sign off blindly. So understand, many resigned as they were unwilling to go act against their conscience. So, it's true. It's good this so call AE made known his thoughts. Hopefully some big gun can investigate into this staff morale problems.

Wah. I see some old emails too.

TOC better be careful as LTA might pull a 1MDB and catch them for info leak.

[quote name="Yewheng" post="5540106" timestamp="1436793947"]

http://www.theonline...ent-breakdowns/

The old birds speak up, apparently the problem already started since year 2003 where the management team bo hiu those lao jiao advise on their findings. They find it is getting more and more difficult to work with the management team and one by one resign . The downfall start from there.

Now the management team have to seriously review the whole process of their management as they been doing it all backwards for past 11 to 13 yrs.

Hopefully they bring in those lao jiao in to look into this recent disruptions, the management team should RESPECT them and listen carefully to what they have to say. If the management team cannot even do this simple task, then out they go. Smrt cannot continue to keep staff that is of just yes man type of people that do not know anything on the ground and just want themselves to look good only.

Will smrt management able to do this simple request? Let's wait and see..[/quote

Eat the humble pie, how and say sorry to those old enciks?
Siao ah?!?!?! [laugh]
Anyway those old chaps only know those old amx 13
What they know about today leopard [laugh]

Wa...finally shed some lights but I feel so paiseh as Singaporean

So disgraceful, as much as I don't like to see such negative news about our public transport system, it's time SMRT management wake up

Time to take the bullet and bite it

Hope they do things properly from now on and pass this hurdle quickly so that we can go to sleep at night knowing that tomorrow's public transport will be safe and on time

MRT fare increase lai leow ??? �..... :slow:

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CNA : 10,000 fewer train commuters at morning peak hour: MOT

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SINGAPORE: The trains are less crowded during morning peak hours and more commuters have been able to board the first or second train, Senior Minister of State for Transport Josephine Teo said on Tuesday (Jul 14).

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Speaking at LTA�s Travel Smart Day 2015, which encourages companies to create supportive environments for their employees to travel on public transport during off-peak periods, Mrs Teo said that an estimated 10,000 commuters � the equivalent of six to seven train loads of passengers � have shifted out of the 8am to 9am peak hour.

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This is the result of a combination of LTA initiatives such as the Free Pre-Peak Travel scheme, which has seen a �sustained shift� of 7 to 8 per cent of commuters out of the morning peak period, as well as other measures such as the Travel Smart Rewards and the launch of the Travel Smart Network pilot, she said.

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More than 60 organisations with a combined workforce of more than 160,000 employees have joined the Travel Smart Network since its launch on Aug 1, 2014. Under the scheme, the Government provides funding to organisations that help employees travel during off-peak periods as well as to use alternative modes of transport such as walking and cycling.

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"I believe (organisations) recognise that flexi-work arrangements and other travel smart initiatives are important to employee value proposition. It supports work-life balance, family time, and for some a healthier lifestyle. Travel Smart makes you more attractive as employers," said Mrs Teo.

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link: http://www.channelne...in/1982608.html

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Sure lar..... who want employees to report late for work if breakdown again. I think all had been advised to take buses,�safer�... :grin: � :grin:

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MRT fare increase lai leow ??? �.....

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CNA : 10,000 fewer train commuters at morning peak hour: MOT

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SINGAPORE: The trains are less crowded during morning peak hours and more commuters have been able to board the first or second train, Senior Minister of State for Transport Josephine Teo said on Tuesday (Jul 14).

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Speaking at LTA�s Travel Smart Day 2015, which encourages companies to create supportive environments for their employees to travel on public transport during off-peak periods, Mrs Teo said that an estimated 10,000 commuters � the equivalent of six to seven train loads of passengers � have shifted out of the 8am to 9am peak hour.

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This is the result of a combination of LTA initiatives such as the Free Pre-Peak Travel scheme, which has seen a �sustained shift� of 7 to 8 per cent of commuters out of the morning peak period, as well as other measures such as the Travel Smart Rewards and the launch of the Travel Smart Network pilot, she said.

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More than 60 organisations with a combined workforce of more than 160,000 employees have joined the Travel Smart Network since its launch on Aug 1, 2014. Under the scheme, the Government provides funding to organisations that help employees travel during off-peak periods as well as to use alternative modes of transport such as walking and cycling.

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"I believe (organisations) recognise that flexi-work arrangements and other travel smart initiatives are important to employee value proposition. It supports work-life balance, family time, and for some a healthier lifestyle. Travel Smart makes you more attractive as employers," said Mrs Teo.

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link: http://www.channelne...in/1982608.html

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Sure lar..... who want employees to report late for work if breakdown again. I think all had been advised to take buses,�safer�... �

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More like buay tahan and buy car. [laugh]

Wa...finally shed some lights but I feel so paiseh as Singaporean

So disgraceful, as much as I don't like to see such negative news about our public transport system, it's time SMRT management wake up

Time to take the bullet and bite it

Hope they do things properly from now on and pass this hurdle quickly so that we can go to sleep at night knowing that tomorrow's public transport will be safe and on time

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The late Ong Teng Cheong and his vision of a reliable and robust MRT train system.

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Brought down by a lady Saw and privatisation.

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The late Ong Teng Cheong and his vision of a reliable and robust MRT train system.
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Brought down by a lady Saw and privatisation.

Privatization is bad and the governance is equally bad

These people never to go the ground, that's the biggest issue

Everyday sit in a nice air con office and read reports

Should get off that office arm chair and go to the ground to hear from the Engineers

Must teach them how to cross check what they are hearing in their management meetings is real or not meh....

Sad state

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SINGAPORE: Five experts from Sweden and Japan will conduct an independent assessment of the power supply infrastructure and other railway trackside installations along the North-South and East-West Lines (NSEWL), after a 3.5-hour disruption crippled the two lines on Jul 7, the Land Transport Authority (LTA) said on Tuesday (Jul 14).

The team of experts, led by Mr Mats Onner from Sweden�s Parsons Brinkerhoff and Mr Hiroto Ikeda from Japan�s Meidensha Corp, will focus on identifying the root cause of the power trip and proposing areas for improvement to prevent recurrence.

The experts will also review the current condition of the power supply and trackside installations, as well as provide recommendations to enhance the overall system and its maintenance.

They will be briefed by LTA on the Jul 7 disruption, then given full access to the infrastructure and installations along the NSEWL during non-service hours, the transport authority said. It added that the team will be assisted by engineers from LTA and SMRT, and will also be analysing the data collated by engineers since the incident.

Parsons Brinkerhoff was previously the consultant for mechanical services on the NSEWL, as well as the electrical and mechanical services on the North East Line, Circle Line and Downtown Line. Meidensha designed and installed the power supply system on the NSEWL, and is also the contractor providing the power supply system for the northern stretch of the Thomson-East Coast Line, according to LTA.

The independent assessment is expected to be completed in August.

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Wonder how much SMRT have to pay?

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MRT fare increase lai leow ??? �.....

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CNA : 10,000 fewer train commuters at morning peak hour: MOT

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SINGAPORE: The trains are less crowded during morning peak hours and more commuters have been able to board the first or second train, Senior Minister of State for Transport Josephine Teo said on Tuesday (Jul 14).

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Speaking at LTA�s Travel Smart Day 2015, which encourages companies to create supportive environments for their employees to travel on public transport during off-peak periods, Mrs Teo said that an estimated 10,000 commuters � the equivalent of six to seven train loads of passengers � have shifted out of the 8am to 9am peak hour.

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This is the result of a combination of LTA initiatives such as the Free Pre-Peak Travel scheme, which has seen a �sustained shift� of 7 to 8 per cent of commuters out of the morning peak period, as well as other measures such as the Travel Smart Rewards and the launch of the Travel Smart Network pilot, she said.

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More than 60 organisations with a combined workforce of more than 160,000 employees have joined the Travel Smart Network since its launch on Aug 1, 2014. Under the scheme, the Government provides funding to organisations that help employees travel during off-peak periods as well as to use alternative modes of transport such as walking and cycling.

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"I believe (organisations) recognise that flexi-work arrangements and other travel smart initiatives are important to employee value proposition. It supports work-life balance, family time, and for some a healthier lifestyle. Travel Smart makes you more attractive as employers," said Mrs Teo.

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link: http://www.channelne...in/1982608.html

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Sure lar..... who want employees to report late for work if breakdown again. I think all had been advised to take buses,�safer�... �

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What was the passenger load previously between 8am to 9am ?

reduction of 10,000 passenger equate to how many percent ?

if from 20,000 to 10,000, than certainly it is a big success and good job to them. :a-m1212:

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But if it is from 300,00 to 290,000, also can consider less crowded? :a-bang:

I saw comments from foreign tourists who were stuck in the train. They were praising how Singaporeans were so patient when the emergency response and contingency plans were useless.

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Wa...finally shed some lights but I feel so paiseh as Singaporean

So disgraceful, as much as I don't like to see such negative news about our public transport system, it's time SMRT management wake up

Time to take the bullet and bite it

Hope they do things properly from now on and pass this hurdle quickly so that we can go to sleep at night knowing that tomorrow's public transport will be safe and on time

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I saw comments from foreign tourists who were stuck in the train. They were praising how Singaporeans were so patient when the emergency response and contingency plans were useless.

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Despite numerous breakdown and commuters got stuck inside the train, and yet�smrt still don't have emergency response plan to handle such situation. Everytime when people got stuck inside the train, the only thing is to let commuters wait and wait and wait, until the system is resumed!

I saw comments from foreign tourists who were stuck in the train. They were praising how Singaporeans were so patient when the emergency response and contingency plans were useless.

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angmo very hiong one

abit not happy only [sweatdrop] �

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Singaporeans more kaisi

I hope they are not taking our patience for granted. I was very worried that could be injuries or fatalities. There seem to be no backup lighting or ventilation.

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Despite numerous breakdown and commuters got stuck inside the train, and yet�smrt still don't have emergency response plan to handle such situation. Everytime when people got stuck inside the train, the only thing is to let commuters wait and wait and wait, until the system is resumed!

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SINGAPORE: Five experts from Sweden and Japan will conduct an independent assessment of the power supply infrastructure and other railway trackside installations along the North-South and East-West Lines (NSEWL), after a 3.5-hour disruption crippled the two lines on Jul 7, the Land Transport Authority (LTA) said on Tuesday (Jul 14).

The team of experts, led by Mr Mats Onner from Sweden�s Parsons Brinkerhoff and Mr Hiroto Ikeda from Japan�s Meidensha Corp, will focus on identifying the root cause of the power trip and proposing areas for improvement to prevent recurrence.

The experts will also review the current condition of the power supply and trackside installations, as well as provide recommendations to enhance the overall system and its maintenance.

They will be briefed by LTA on the Jul 7 disruption, then given full access to the infrastructure and installations along the NSEWL during non-service hours, the transport authority said. It added that the team will be assisted by engineers from LTA and SMRT, and will also be analysing the data collated by engineers since the incident.

Parsons Brinkerhoff was previously the consultant for mechanical services on the NSEWL, as well as the electrical and mechanical services on the North East Line, Circle Line and Downtown Line. Meidensha designed and installed the power supply system on the NSEWL, and is also the contractor providing the power supply system for the northern stretch of the Thomson-East Coast Line, according to LTA.

The independent assessment is expected to be completed in August.

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Hi folks in engineering industry, care to share what is independent assessment? [whip]

Wah chop chop curry pok experts lai liao

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http://www.channelne...wn/1982896.html

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I hope they are not taking our patience for granted. I was very worried that could be injuries or fatalities. There seem to be no backup lighting or ventilation.

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I believe they are taking it�for granted. Cause everytime when there is breakdown and people got stuck inside the train where there is no lighting and ventilation, people still survived and no injuries or fatalities?!

Will it be 3 times lucky ?

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I believe they are taking it�for granted. Cause everytime when there is breakdown and people got stuck inside the train where there is no lighting and ventilation, people still survived and no injuries or fatalities?!

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Wonder how much SMRT have to pay?

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What was the passenger load previously between 8am to 9am ?

reduction of 10,000 passenger equate to how many percent ?

if from 20,000 to 10,000, than certainly it is a big success and good job to them.

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But if it is from 300,00 to 290,000, also can consider less crowded?

wonder how much ' WE HAVE ' to pay.

the money come from us in the end.�

at the btm of the food chain.� :a-confused:

When the train is working, it's a cheap way to bring your stolen trolley home.

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When the train is working, it's a cheap way to bring your stolen trolley home.
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This is bad... ...

When the train is working, it's a cheap way to bring your stolen trolley home.

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The fact that nobody stopped him (either staff of supermarket and MRT) and he managed to get it onto the train, I say, he deserves to own the trolley! [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
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Hi folks in engineering industry, care to share what is independent assessment?

SINGAPORE: Five experts from Sweden and Japan will conduct an independent assessment of the power supply infrastructure and other railway trackside installations along the North-South and East-West Lines (NSEWL), after a 3.5-hour disruption crippled the two lines on Jul 7, the Land Transport Authority (LTA) said on Tuesday (Jul 14).

The team of experts, led by Mr Mats Onner from Sweden�s Parsons Brinkerhoff and Mr Hiroto Ikeda from Japan�s Meidensha Corp, will focus on identifying the root cause of the power trip and proposing areas for improvement to prevent recurrence.

The experts will also review the current condition of the power supply and trackside installations, as well as provide recommendations to enhance the overall system and its maintenance.

They will be briefed by LTA on the Jul 7 disruption, then given full access to the infrastructure and installations along the NSEWL during non-service hours, the transport authority said. It added that the team will be assisted by engineers from LTA and SMRT, and will also be analysing the data collated by engineers since the incident.

Parsons Brinkerhoff was previously the consultant for mechanical services on the NSEWL, as well as the electrical and mechanical services on the North East Line, Circle Line and Downtown Line. Meidensha designed and installed the power supply system on the NSEWL, and is also the contractor providing the power supply system for the northern stretch of the Thomson-East Coast Line, according to LTA.

The independent assessment is expected to be completed in August.

- CNA/cy

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Quite stumped, why appoint people from the same company who provided the infra, Will they slap themselves?

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Edited by Camrysfa, 14 July 2015 - 07:17 PM.

Will it be 3 times lucky ?

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I don't dare to think! And i don't wish for the 3rd time major breakdown again!

Oh great. This means they have absolutely no idea what caused the major breakdown.

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I think we can expect more to come in the coming days.

When the train is working, it's a cheap way to bring your stolen trolley home.
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No wonder Fairprice product, price only up, never come down

So the managing�director simply means that our train system cannot cope with the high volume of commuters, the smrt staff cannot cope with the massive breakdown? Cant believe that he�said our train system is reaching�towards the end of their life span which will contribute to breakdown? I believe the train system in many other countries even much older than our system, and yet they still able to run smoothly?

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He meant the insulators for the third rail. These needs to be changed regularly bacause these are exposed to the weather. The lifespan for these insulators are up which they think contributes to the breakdown.

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finally somebody is talking human language
what a huge contrast to Desmond's we all jin satki, jin superman, jin number 1, all problems solved, nothing to see here
be humble, acknowledge�the problems, come clean, work on the problems

Not only don't know how to cope when breakdown happen. Don't know even how to maintain the whole system. Lucky running smoothly for 25 years out of the 30 years in operation. Common sense will tell that any mechanical & electrical system got life span of 7-10 years. Not forgetting, the train system is running practically non stop for almost 24 hrs a day. And the whole system should have been replaced periodically. Not the easy way out, where where is faulty, repair that part only. Even LTA mandate our car for 10 years. All the systems, imo, can be replaced except the tracks. The designer or planner should have planned n laid additional track right from beginning, better still dual tracks such that at any time, can switch the train to the additional track for repairing, maintenance or even replace without interruption.

Until now then they say they suspect the insulators are up and could be the reason causing the breakdown? I guess the whole maintenance team in smrt something wrong?!�Seems like they only wait�for the problem to surface and things to spoilt, then they start to�think how to rectify�it?�

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And if they keeps saying the current system cannot cope with high volume of commuters, then how can they able to cope when our population hit 6.9m?�I believe there is no way they can change the system, since it is built in this way?

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really miss the old PAP

everything worked well, everybody envied us

Why is ChannelNew's title says it's 'unprecedented'. when clearly , especially �the crowd control portion suppose to have a 'lesson learnt' in placed.

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You missed out the award SMRT got that Desmond was always talking about

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You missed out the award SMRT got that Desmond was always talking about

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really miss the old PAP

everything worked well, everybody envied us

I guess everything here starts not to work well only when our population uncontrollable and crazily got increased?!

We all know maintenance is lacking but why?

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The problem is the top management and shareholders sucking all the money away. If there is an increase in fares, that top will suck even more leaving the same amount or even less for maintenance.

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The issue is not with increasing fares for better service. The crux is with public transport being a private company that is listed on SGX.

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There is no turning back unless someone is willing to pay a lot of money to buy up all the shares. The only way is not to payout dividends, big bonuses and salaries until maintenance and service is up to par.

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finally somebody is talking human language

what a huge contrast to Desmond's we all jin satki, jin superman, jin number 1, all problems solved, nothing to see here

be humble, acknowledge�the problems, come clean, work on the problems

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This guy confirm jialat.

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He was handpicked by Desmond from the Airforce and yet he is now saying everything that desmond said is not true...

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This guy confirm jialat.

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He was handpicked by Desmond from the Airforce and yet he is now saying everything that desmond said is not true...

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It doesn't matter. All of us know what desmond said is not true...� doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

We all know maintenance is lacking but why?

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The problem is the top management and shareholders sucking all the money away. If there is an increase in fares, that top will suck even more leaving the same amount or even less for maintenance.

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The issue is not with increasing fares for better service. The crux is with public transport being a private company that is listed on SGX.

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There is no turning back unless someone is willing to pay a lot of money to buy up all the shares. The only way is not to payout dividends, big bonuses and salaries until maintenance and service is up to par.

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Don't need to spend a lot of money to do it since Temasek already owns more than 50% of the shares.

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Market cap is around 2 bil so just need 1 bil more. If they can spend 300mil on some stupid youth Olympics then what's 1 bil to fix the transport system?

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This guy confirm jialat.

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He was handpicked by Desmond from the Airforce and yet he is now saying everything that desmond said is not true...

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if you wanna know whether all your tanks, arty and fighters are operation or just plain VOR (vehicle on repair)

you ask the chief mech, not the commander

hard truth

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really miss the old PAP
everything worked well, everybody envied us

agree with you wholeheartedly

The elder lee is really a visionary and legend

agree with you wholeheartedly

The elder lee is really a visionary and legend

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no work? arse kena kick

everything worked

everything

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now we got jokers talking all kind of crap

we are paying them good

these guys better work, not talk cock sing song

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back in the old days, mrt was so effective that we come to place 90%/95% reliance on it
we didn't plan for any alternatives
in fact we ask people don't drive, take the mrt, clean, fast and relaiable
we also tell the bus guys not to run parallel services
let the big boys handle the big jobs
when the big boy falls, we have no backup

Well said. That's is only possible when the whole system is brand new. Just like driving a new car. When it new, we are so confident, it will not fail us. But, when it almost reaching its life span, don't even dare drive further up Malaysia. Haha

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This guy confirm jialat.
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He was handpicked by Desmond from the Airforce and yet he is now saying everything that desmond said is not true...

Paper cannot cover fire

I think he is very smart to come forth, if he don't speak, the old guards are slowly coming out, by then he would have lost all credibility

I view him as a smart guy, his boss is even smarter and can protect his own backside

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Should look at our warship too. 30yrs and still running. But commercial side, 20yrs, ship owners are already preparing to scrap it liao.

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Maybe no maintenance, thats why they never change the insulators. I dont know much, not working there.

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For those who worked in the Navy, you'd know how much maintenance they do.

3 mth, 6 mth,12 mth, 24 mth..preventive maintenance schedule.

Well said. That's is only possible when the whole system is brand new. Just like driving a new car. When it new, we are so confident, it will not fail us. But, when it almost reaching its life span, don't even dare drive further up Malaysia. Haha

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Govt should get people to go use other transport mode for at least 5 years 10 years

give mrt time and money to repair to rest to build new things

come in super strongly to encourage to facilitate bus, express bus, car pooling

reduce reliance on rail for at least quite a few years, let the poor guy recuperate abit

let the chief mech do his job

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no work? arse kena kick
everything worked
everything
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now we got jokers talking all kind of crap
we are paying them good
these guys better work, not talk cock sing song

Exactly

I am a firm believer of having a strong leader like elder lee

Being nice cannot get things done

Listen too much without own discretion also jialat

Being leader cannot please everyone one, when everything works well, he gets all the respect accorded automatically

You guys do realise that everything he said has probably been vetted, right?

Paper cannot cover fire

I think he is very smart to come forth, if he don't speak, the old guards are slowly coming out, by then he would have lost all credibility

I view him as a smart guy, his boss is even smarter and can protect his own backside

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different lah

old guards talk = noise

chief mech speak = everybody sits up and pay attention

You guys do realise that everything he said has probably been vetted, right?

One be good guy, one be bad guy

Stage play is common

You guys do realise that everything he said has probably been vetted, right?

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which means they decide to come clean liao?

maybe? I donno

One be good guy, one be bad guy

Stage play is common

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good cop bad cop?

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