Thứ Sáu, 6 tháng 1, 2017

KIA K3 Owners check-in! part 20

  • 25 August 2015 - 08:40 PM
    Bonjoey

    if 1st 5 years ...nothing major wrong with the car.We would have pay few thousands for bringing
    our K3 to C&C for servicing...not to mention every additional yr after that. But when i sign on the paper
    i already price in that cost liao cos peace of mind boh bian, first time buying korean ... :secret-laugh:


    May I know how much did u quantify to price in that servicing cost?
  • 25 August 2015 - 11:52 PM
    Lurpsexx

    All servicing records are computerized by C&C. They can penalised yr warranty under clause 10, which is govern by ��maintenance schedule every 10,000km or 6 months^, whichever is earlier.

    Warranty may be rendered null and void under these conditions:�

    2. Alteration to the original specifications or installation of equipment which are neither provided for nor authorised by Kia Motors Corpopration (the Manufacturer) or Cycle & Carriage Kia Pte Ltd.

    Bro, does this mean if we install amp, underseat subwoofer, car cams etc., then our warranty void? Then our car must be stock for 5 years??? Boh Lee You leh...� :blink:

    For me, my car cams are tapped to fuse and I intend to install on-off switches for them, and also to mod the reverse car cam to on/off with a switch, also the amp will mean connecting to the HU etc etc... I asked the SE but he no answer n say need to refer to the servicing manager.. such unclear answers had caused me to hold back on my purchase, until things get clearer... I dun wanna drive a car that is not to my liking, just bec we are held hostage to the warranty package.... the car shld fit our lifestyle , not to fit into the C&C warranty clause!


  • 26 August 2015 - 12:04 AM
    Maomao82

    Bro, does this mean if we install amp, underseat subwoofer, car cams etc., then our warranty void? Then our car must be stock for 5 years??? Boh Lee You leh...� :blink:

    For me, my car cams are tapped to fuse and I intend to install on-off switches for them, and also to mod the reverse car cam to on/off with a switch, also the amp will mean connecting to the HU etc etc... I asked the SE but he no answer n say need to refer to the servicing manager.. such unclear answers had caused me to hold back on my purchase, until things get clearer... I dun wanna drive a car that is not to my liking, just bec we are held hostage to the warranty package.... the car shld fit our lifestyle , not to fit into the C&C warranty clause!

    Lurpsexx, no matter which brand u buy, be it Honda, Toyota, Mazda, VW, Ford etc etc ..all will show the statement in the warranty condition.�

    Example, if gearbox spoil, and they discover all the additional "mods" like amp/bling blings, its quitw hard for them not to honour the warranty as it's quite a straight forward case of mechanical breakdown vs Electrical fault, Most likely warranty they will play by ball & honour

    But of coz if scenario is, car touch wood electrical short circuit & catch fire, they can refuse warranty, pushing all the blame to your additional mods, which might have overloaded, or ckt short due to improper cuttin etc..

    End of the day, I think juz go to a reputable Workshop and do the mods for peace of mind, anyway some service advisor also close 1 eye one.. Do need worry too much, many peeps rides here arent stock 1 way or another.. lol


  • 26 August 2015 - 12:14 AM
    Lurpsexx

    if 1st 5 years ...nothing major wrong with the car.We would have pay few thousands for bringing
    our K3 to C&C for servicing...not to mention every additional yr after that. But when i sign on the paper
    i already price in that cost liao cos peace of mind boh bian, first time buying korean ... :secret-laugh:

    I also kena the "suggestion" by the SE to opt for the guaranteed package, with him saying no 3 yrs servicing package for non-guarantee price.. then i asked him if I took the non-guranteed package then no servicing package included? He say yes, and I� :wacko: ...???

    All the brand's cars i seen have at least a 3 yr or 60K Km servicing included, and the Kia SE said the other make's profits higher and the servicing costs hv been included into the car price... then he said Kia margin low and car price low so they dun practice incl servicing in the car price... :huh: ... so I buy a non-guranteed then no servicing? The the 5 yr warranty how? How to have kia service records if i heng heng got a car under non-guarantee package but no servicing incl? Void the warranty automatically? Twist my hand to "buy" the 3 yr maintenance servicing for another 2K?? He then told me the 3 yr servicing has 2 free labor n the engine oil , filters etc need to pay?? I didnt get him clearly as I was already� :a-noway: ...� then i asked abt any other servicing package ala carte, and he gave me a brochure on the SS20 normal 10K servicing.. I took a look and its $689 for 3 half yearly 10K KM SS20 servicing, so for 3 yrs basic servicing (2x this package = 6 servicing) it works out to $ 1380, cheaper than the $2K serviing package to pay if I took the non-guranteed package... he also hmmmm... for a while and was silent.. now only question to ask is the ala carte servicing the same items as the 3 yr maintenance package.. can any kind souls here advise me??

    i've seen autosaver Kia service package and its cheaper at 149 for the 10K servicing and I think the service is comparable.. if not for the 5 yr warranty, I'd gone to autosaver for my service already..

    I'm holding back until these ques are resolved, and the last 2 days stock market mass bleeding may put a damper on the potential car buyers enthusiasm = �lower COE at next bid? Only time will tell if we are rational/conservative or just car crazy!� [sweatdrop]


    Lurpsexx, no matter which brand u buy, be it Honda, Toyota, Mazda, VW, Ford etc etc ..all will show the statement in the warranty condition.�

    Example, if gearbox spoil, and they discover all the additional "mods" like amp/bling blings, its quitw hard for them not to honour the warranty as it's quite a straight forward case of mechanical breakdown vs Electrical fault, Most likely warranty they will play by ball & honour

    But of coz if scenario is, car touch wood electrical short circuit & catch fire, they can refuse warranty, pushing all the blame to your additional mods, which might have overloaded, or ckt short due to improper cuttin etc..

    End of the day, I think juz go to a reputable Workshop and do the mods for peace of mind, anyway some service advisor also close 1 eye one.. Do need worry too much, many peeps rides here arent stock 1 way or another.. lol

    Thanks bro... thats what I tot too... its all down to the servicing sup if he wanna press the case or not..

    I actually wanna mod liao once I get the car, just wanna check with other owners if they ever got refused service due to these mods...

    �The car is good, just wanna make it better without any compromises..�

    Thanks again!� :a-good:


  • 26 August 2015 - 07:51 AM
    flashbang
    Seems like we're held hostage by the 5 year warranty. No choice but to go back to AD for servicing. If servicing package only covers engine oil change, quite ex as it won't cost 2k in 3 years even at AD pricing.

    Since your SE doesn't know the difference, likely that 2k package is inclusive of a nice bonus for the SE...
  • 26 August 2015 - 08:48 AM
    Dark_flan

    Go alternate servicing mean 1 yr you go in once and other is outside workshop. For the first 5 years if you have free servicing promotion then go C&C to maintain the full 5 yrs warranty then after go to the alternate method. For those without promotion servicing then opt for the alternate method.�

    They are clever to include 10 yrs warranty for engine so as to keep the customer coming in to maintain their engine warranty. Though I think redundant as an engine even for KIA can last long time with proper maintenance.

    PS I used to work as an service advisor for KIA though I do not know the policy changed?


  • 26 August 2015 - 08:54 AM
    Cheefarn

    Seems like we're held hostage by the 5 year warranty. No choice but to go back to AD for servicing. If servicing package only covers engine oil change, quite ex as it won't cost 2k in 3 years even at AD pricing.

    Since your SE doesn't know the difference, likely that 2k package is inclusive of a nice bonus for the SE...

    I have been using Autosaver services for almost 12 yrs already. No issues with them and their people are friendly and knowledgeable. �

    From old Hipporolla, to�my ex Altis 1.8 and to my current Civic, Svc has been great and they don't restrict what what stuff you need to buy from them etc. They once managed to solve some strange Check Engine light constantly on error in my ex Altis. BM wanted me to change the whole MAS sensor which cost almost $800. [mad][crazy]�Turns out that the MAS sensor was covered with dust and silicon no thanks to the stainless steel open pod filter I was using at that time. The sensor was cleaned and the ECU reset. They also cleaned my throttle body just to be sure.

    Mind u, BM, being such a large AD, DOESN'T have or employed staff who doesn't know how to do a perm reset of the ECU! Clearing error codes and doing full reboot are 2 different jobs. The check engine light may still come back on sometime later if you just do a simple 'Error code clear' command.

    Autosaver prices have risen over the years as well. But they are still cheaper than any AD la. The only downside for Autosaver is that they don't have any 4 wheel alignment machine. As such, big jobs eg shocks replacement, you will need to go to other tire shops for wheel alignment after shocks replacement.

    http://www.autosaver.com.sg/


  • 26 August 2015 - 09:35 AM
    PeterPP

    I have been using Autosaver services for almost 12 yrs already. No issues with them and their people are friendly and knowledgeable. �

    From old Hipporolla, to�my ex Altis 1.8 and to my current Civic, Svc has been great and they don't restrict what what stuff you need to buy from them etc. They once managed to solve some strange Check Engine light constantly on error in my ex Altis. BM wanted me to change the whole MAS sensor which cost almost $800. [mad][crazy]�Turns out that the MAS sensor was covered with dust and silicon no thanks to the stainless steel open pod filter I was using at that time. The sensor was cleaned and the ECU reset. They also cleaned my throttle body just to be sure.

    Mind u, BM, being such a large AD, DOESN'T have or employed staff who doesn't know how to do a perm reset of the ECU! Clearing error codes and doing full reboot are 2 different jobs. The check engine light may still come back on sometime later if you just do a simple 'Error code clear' command.

    Autosaver prices have risen over the years as well. But they are still cheaper than any AD la. The only downside for Autosaver is that they don't have any 4 wheel alignment machine. As such, big jobs eg shocks replacement, you will need to go to other tire shops for wheel alignment after shocks replacement.

    http://www.autosaver.com.sg/

    My KIA Picanto was service at Woodland workshop and�found they are providing the professional service.�


  • 26 August 2015 - 09:37 AM
    rcz

    May I know how much did u quantify to price in that servicing cost?

    i can jus estimate ...if outside workshop with a new car, jus normal servicing i reckon probably the cost max will be $150. C&C charge $2000 for 3yrs with roughly total 7 servcing..

    Anyway...one way to safeguard our Kia and not being hold ransome by C&C..see any bros out there have gd recommendation for workshops that specialise in Kia servicing �..so we can by pass �CC.
    And spare parts we can go direct to�Min Ghee Auto Pte. Ltd.�


  • 27 August 2015 - 08:24 AM
    Julietta
    Anyone white sport k3 their body kit n car color different?

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  • 27 August 2015 - 08:52 AM
    rcz

    Anyone white sport k3 their body kit n car color different?

    hmmm, whose K3 's tis?


  • 27 August 2015 - 09:06 AM
    Julietta

    hmmm, whose K3 's tis?

    my one. de agent say tat it is due to paint contrast on different material. other colour oso got same issue. just tat white one more obvious.

    so anyone k3 sport got this issue as well?


  • 27 August 2015 - 09:08 AM
    Cheefarn

    Anyone white sport k3 their body kit n car color different?

    As mentioned b4, the bodykits are locally painted and fitted. Its not factory original parts.

    The color difference is unavoidable esp for white... The painting process and overall paint treatment for the bodykits will naturally be different from factory process mah.

    There will be color temp difference even if the exact paint code is used.

    This is why I strongly recommend new SX sports buyers to instruct SE NOT to install the bodykits. Get that $500 credit back for something more useful


  • 27 August 2015 - 09:12 AM
    Julietta

    As mentioned b4, the bodykits are locally painted and fitted. Its not factory original parts.

    The color difference is unavoidable esp for white... The painting process and overall paint treatment for the bodykits will naturally be different from factory process mah.

    There will be color temp difference even if the exact paint code is used.

    This is why I strongly recommend new SX sports buyers to instruct SE NOT to install the bodykits. Get that $500 credit back for something more useful

    oicccc thanks for the info!


  • 27 August 2015 - 09:58 AM
    Dark_flan

    Anyone requested a defer of delivery of their new rides despite ready for collection?�

    C&C said that for every day of defer kenna penalty of $50/-, I was thinking penalty for what.. Carpark where they store their car is theirs so who charges them? And I have to write in a letter to them for "Appeal".. WTF. The customer has to appeal?? The original delivery date is only deferred 4 days from my original defer date as I going overseas. By right they are going to handover end of this month.

    I planning to defer mine after the 7th month as my family members objected. Similarly for my brother's car also after the 7th month.


  • 27 August 2015 - 01:41 PM
    drwatson

    Anyone white sport k3 their body kit n car color different?

    no problem for my red.


  • 27 August 2015 - 02:08 PM
    ricleosg

    actually i noticed this on the body kits from taobao too.where the paint on the kit is brighter than the car. I thought this was due to them putting the kits on cars that were not brand new. Looks like is a problem of paint matching. is the kit also snow pearl white effect or just plain glossy white?

    Anyone white sport k3 their body kit n car color different?


    As mentioned b4, the bodykits are locally painted and fitted. Its not factory original parts.

    The color difference is unavoidable esp for white... The painting process and overall paint treatment for the bodykits will naturally be different from factory process mah.

    There will be color temp difference even if the exact paint code is used.

    This is why I strongly recommend new SX sports buyers to instruct SE NOT to install the bodykits. Get that $500 credit back for something more useful

    interestingly my painted rear lip spolier from korea came exactly color matched to my K3. I think the dealer must have gotten the kits from cheaper sources, hence poorer paint match


  • 27 August 2015 - 02:15 PM
    Julietta

    actually i noticed this on the body kits from taobao too.where the paint on the kit is brighter than the car. I thought this was due to them putting the kits on cars that were not brand new. Looks like is a problem of paint matching. is the kit also snow pearl white effect or just plain glossy white?


    interestingly my painted rear lip spolier from korea came exactly color matched to my K3. I think the dealer must have gotten the kits from cheaper sources, hence poorer paint match

    ok just got another msg from the sales agent. he told me that there are a few cases as well for my batch (white) . then the manager is trying to rectify this issue in sept and will get back to me asap.

    those who collected their sport k3 white mayb can go check n if the color different is huge pls go msg ur agent.


  • 27 August 2015 - 03:00 PM
    ricleosg

    Anyone requested a defer of delivery of their new rides despite ready for collection?�

    C&C said that for every day of defer kenna penalty of $50/-, I was thinking penalty for what.. Carpark where they store their car is theirs so who charges them? And I have to write in a letter to them for "Appeal".. WTF. The customer has to appeal?? The original delivery date is only deferred 4 days from my original defer date as I going overseas. By right they are going to handover end of this month.

    I planning to defer mine after the 7th month as my family members objected. Similarly for my brother's car also after the 7th month.

    hopefully your appeal is successful!

    if they promised you a late delivery date initially and the car is now ready earlier, i think you should be able to argue for a free delay since the original date was later?


  • 27 August 2015 - 03:19 PM
    ricleosg

    ok just got another msg from the sales agent. he told me that there are a few cases as well for my batch (white) . then the manager is trying to rectify this issue in sept and will get back to me asap.

    those who collected their sport k3 white mayb can go check n if the color different is huge pls go msg ur agent.

    nice of you to share, and good that they are trying to rectify this. so is the kit really snow pearl white or just glossy white?


  • 27 August 2015 - 03:31 PM
    Maomao82

    Anyone requested a defer of delivery of their new rides despite ready for collection?�

    C&C said that for every day of defer kenna penalty of $50/-, I was thinking penalty for what.. Carpark where they store their car is theirs so who charges them? And I have to write in a letter to them for "Appeal".. WTF. The customer has to appeal?? The original delivery date is only deferred 4 days from my original defer date as I going overseas. By right they are going to handover end of this month.

    I planning to defer mine after the 7th month as my family members objected. Similarly for my brother's car also after the 7th month.

    No sure what yr SE is doing, but I had mine deferred for 1whole week.. NO charges...

    Anyone white sport k3 their body kit n car color different?

    The lip Spoiler is factory fitted in KIA Korea Factory.

    Body kit despite being locally fitted, color should be Snow Pearl White.. definitely the 3rd party body kit screw up... probably forgot to color match.. Please bang table !!!


  • 27 August 2015 - 03:43 PM
    Julietta

    nice of you to share, and good that they are trying to rectify this. so is the kit really snow pearl white or just glossy white?

    i really have no idea. ehhhh de svc centre dun open on weekend? i c all the sat slot like cant book even though the agent say sat is half day


  • 27 August 2015 - 04:24 PM
    Dark_flan

    nice of you to share, and good that they are trying to rectify this. so is the kit really snow pearl white or just glossy white?

    Looks like I be checking out when I take delivery of the car.


  • 27 August 2015 - 04:51 PM
    Lurpsexx

    actually i noticed this on the body kits from taobao too.where the paint on the kit is brighter than the car. I thought this was due to them putting the kits on cars that were not brand new. Looks like is a problem of paint matching. is the kit also snow pearl white effect or just plain glossy white?


    interestingly my painted rear lip spolier from korea came exactly color matched to my K3. I think the dealer must have gotten the kits from cheaper sources, hence poorer paint match

    Thanks... will check�


    No sure what yr SE is doing, but I had mine deferred for 1whole week.. NO charges...

    Yup.. I have the feel that each SE there doesn't know what the rest are doing, and each quoting and telling customers their own "stories".. Kia SG mgt don't seem to have the same message for all of their sales folks to convey to customers....

    So its up to customers to probe and dig and get their demands met with their respective SE.. I think its up to each SE to agree n fight for you for your specific requirements.....�


  • 27 August 2015 - 07:10 PM
    flashbang

    Colour for the bodykit is totally off. Don't let them get away with it! It's so off that you're better off without a bodykit, else people think your brand new car so fast "lak sek".


  • 27 August 2015 - 09:06 PM
    Ivan_06

    Correct. Dun be taken in by the 10 yr engine n gearbox warranty


    Gearbox only 5 years lah, where got 10?
  • 27 August 2015 - 10:43 PM
    Lurpsexx

    Gearbox only 5 years lah, where got 10?

    Ya, thats what i heard too.. only engine.. not the starter motor, not the aircon compressor not the altenator etc.. only the engine.. Hmm... like have but dun have lidat.. haha

    same applies for the 5 yr warranty, they must have your full service records (i.e. fully serviced by them only) otherwise they wont honor that 5 yr warranty.. bummer....


  • 27 August 2015 - 11:01 PM
    Maomao82

    nice of you to share, and good that they are trying to rectify this. so is the kit really snow pearl white or just glossy white?

    Let my picture do the talking � [laugh]

    As mentioned b4, the bodykits are locally painted and fitted. Its not factory original parts.

    The color difference is unavoidable esp for white... The painting process and overall paint treatment for the bodykits will naturally be different from factory process mah.

    There will be color temp difference even if the exact paint code is used.

    This is why I strongly recommend new SX sports buyers to instruct SE NOT to install the bodykits. Get that $500 credit back for something more useful

    Cheefarn, it's 101% possible the color difference is avoidable.� Take a look at mine - July delivery

    Possibilities...

    1) Some batches of body kit forgotten to spray paint, and supplier juz nice�" gong gong" install without noticing the diff

    2) Sub-con out to another supplier...

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  • 27 August 2015 - 11:35 PM
    Blublak

    Anyone white sport k3 their body kit n car color different?

    this one confirm wrong colour code. [furious]� its too obvious the different shade. your car is snow white pearl? colour code should be SWP.�the body kit is locally fitted? probably painting outsourced to bochap company. if factory fitted confirm no issue. [thumbsup]


  • 28 August 2015 - 09:43 AM
    Cheefarn

    Yes the kits are installed locally.

    My SE said he can me a $500 credit if I don't want the kit. And delivery will be slightly quicker too since the car don't need to be down for installation.

    Aiyo, with bodykits, how to install mud flaps ley? The factory original mud flaps looks nice.


    Edited by Cheefarn, 28 August 2015 - 09:44 AM.

  • 28 August 2015 - 10:17 AM
    ricleosg

    yeah cheefarn, if you want to put on the mudflaps, skip the bodykit.

    the mudflaps are functional too to prevent the car from getting dirty so quickly.


  • 31 August 2015 - 12:48 AM
    ricleosg

    tried to DIY a car rig, but didn't have the right gear to extend the camera further away from the car!

    rest of the shots with a different lens from last time, but same place location la hehe...

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  • 31 August 2015 - 12:50 AM
    7hm

    Ricleo, were you the one who sent their K3 to GroomersLab? How's it coming along now after some time of ownership? Great looking photos. I notice you like to really go for the ultra-cold color balance.


    Edited by 7hm, 31 August 2015 - 12:52 AM.

  • 31 August 2015 - 12:53 AM
    ricleosg

    Ricleo, were you the one who sent their K3 to GroomersLab? How's it coming along now after some time of ownership? Great looking photos.

    nope, didnt do paint protection on my k3. hehe thinking about it though :p


    Ricleo, were you the one who sent their K3 to GroomersLab? How's it coming along now after some time of ownership? Great looking photos. I notice you like to really go for the ultra-cold color balance.

    ha the color part boh bian. multi story carpark lights at the rooftop are super yellow. to get the car to look white have to adjust the white balance


  • 31 August 2015 - 12:58 AM
    7hm

    nope, didnt do paint protection on my k3. hehe thinking about it though :p


    ha the color part boh bian. multi story carpark lights at the rooftop are super yellow. to get the car to look white have to adjust the white balance

    don't wanna do the "natural look"? hahahahaha...

    Your car still looks spotless in the photos. :wub:


  • 31 August 2015 - 01:09 AM
    Lurpsexx

    yeah cheefarn, if you want to put on the mudflaps, skip the bodykit.

    the mudflaps are functional too to prevent the car from getting dirty so quickly.

    Any bros installed the side window visors/deflectors? Got pics to share? Hope you can share where you bought / installed it, its color and the cost.. Thanks in advance!�


  • 31 August 2015 - 01:55 AM
    Javierpoon
    Bro. Yours is the EX model or SX model but you didn't want the body kit?

    Also, you changed your foglight to white? Think it comes with yellow light right? Nice ride by the way! Can't wait for mine to arrive!


    tried to DIY a car rig, but didn't have the right gear to extend the camera further away from the car!


    rest of the shots with a different lens from last time, but same place location la hehe...


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  • 31 August 2015 - 07:46 AM
    ricleosg

    Bro. Yours is the EX model or SX model but you didn't want the body kit?

    Also, you changed your foglight to white? Think it comes with yellow light right? Nice ride by the way! Can't wait for mine to arrive!


    Tks! Mine is the previous sx before sports sx. No body kit option then. Just a?ded the boot lip spoiler myself keke.

    Lights all stock. Looks white because of white balance adjustment in the yellow mscp light for the car to be white and not yellowish.
  • 31 August 2015 - 08:58 AM
    rcz

    Tks! Mine is the previous sx before sports sx. No body kit option then. Just a?ded the boot lip spoiler myself keke.

    Lights all stock. Looks white because of white balance adjustment in the yellow mscp light for the car to be white and not yellowish.

    NIce shot� [thumbsup][thumbsup][thumbsup]


  • 31 August 2015 - 09:33 AM
    ricleosg

    haha natural look in this lighting is yellow orange K3 liao... not natural at all!

    "spotless" cuz i just washed it that afternoon. DIY handwash hehe.... haven't started waxing yet. that's gonna be tiring i think, waxing the whole car.

    now i prefer to handwash (DIY) instead of going to the petrol stations. reason being their sponges and clothes have been used over many many cars... not sure how clean or free of abrasive materials are their stuff. end up scratching your paintwork along with cleaning.

    mine had some small sticky marks (think sticker adhesive residue) left on my paintwork at a few areas after a previous wash at the petrol station. Can't really get them off with my sponge/cloth/car shampoo. is lighter fluid safe for paint work? know it gets rid of sticky marks easily but haven't tried it yet. or WD40? wash off immediately after of course.

    don't wanna do the "natural look"? hahahahaha...

    Your car still looks spotless in the photos. :wub:


  • 31 August 2015 - 10:56 AM
    Javierpoon
    I see! Looks good man the ride!

    Tks! Mine is the previous sx before sports sx. No body kit option then. Just a?ded the boot lip spoiler myself keke.

    Lights all stock. Looks white because of white balance adjustment in the yellow mscp light for the car to be white and not yellowish.


  • 31 August 2015 - 11:35 AM
    Javierpoon
    For me I use turtle wax to remove stains on my car! Works quite well!

    haha natural look in this lighting is yellow orange K3 liao... not natural at all!

    "spotless" cuz i just washed it that afternoon. DIY handwash hehe.... haven't started waxing yet. that's gonna be tiring i think, waxing the whole car.

    now i prefer to handwash (DIY) instead of going to the petrol stations. reason being their sponges and clothes have been used over many many cars... not sure how clean or free of abrasive materials are their stuff. end up scratching your paintwork along with cleaning.

    mine had some small sticky marks (think sticker adhesive residue) left on my paintwork at a few areas after a previous wash at the petrol station. Can't really get them off with my sponge/cloth/car shampoo. is lighter fluid safe for paint work? know it gets rid of sticky marks easily but haven't tried it yet. or WD40? wash off immediately after of course.



  • 31 August 2015 - 11:53 AM
    Maomao82

    Ricleo, were you the one who sent their K3 to GroomersLab? How's it coming along now after some time of ownership? Great looking photos. I notice you like to really go for the ultra-cold color balance.

    I'm the one who sent my K3 to Groomers. The water beading is as good as day 1.. only did 2 car wash (1k svc at C&C �& self-wash 2weeks ago) since day of collection.

    Let the picture do the talking � [smash]

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  • 31 August 2015 - 12:57 PM
    ricleosg
    Swee la hehe... wa wash only 2 times. How long alrdy since u got car. Normal rain those dirty water spray also wont affect car?
  • 31 August 2015 - 01:04 PM
    7hm

    I'm the one who sent my K3 to Groomers. The water beading is as good as day 1.. only did 2 car wash (1k svc at C&C �& self-wash 2weeks ago) since day of collection.

    Let the picture do the talking � [smash]


    Swee, swee!

    Really considering going to them or Elite. Elite is more convenient for me and they're running a 1 year promo now...

    But still undecided if such detailing is worthwhile.


  • 31 August 2015 - 01:04 PM
    Javierpoon
    How much did you pay for the paint protection? Usually it lasts for about a year or so?

    Hmmm mine comes with PPS. Maybe should redo it after 6 months or a year.


    I'm the one who sent my K3 to Groomers. The water beading is as good as day 1.. only did 2 car wash (1k svc at C&C �& self-wash 2weeks ago) since day of collection.

    Let the picture do the talking � [smash]

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  • 31 August 2015 - 01:11 PM
    ricleosg

    How much did you pay for the paint protection? Usually it lasts for about a year or so?

    Hmmm mine comes with PPS. Maybe should redo it after 6 months or a year.

    isn't PPS already paint protection?�


  • 31 August 2015 - 01:17 PM
    drwatson

    isn't PPS already paint protection?�

    thats why he said he is going to do it after 6 months after his PPS wear off haha


  • 31 August 2015 - 01:34 PM
    Javierpoon
    Hahah. Yeah dunno what's the quality gonna be like for the one given by C&C. Dunno how long it'll last..




    thats why he said he is going to do it after 6 months after his PPS wear off haha


  • 31 August 2015 - 02:32 PM
    ricleosg

    hehe i see.... i thought most of the PPS packages came in a few years, where you can go and touch up on the paint protection in regular periods.�


  • 31 August 2015 - 11:54 PM
    Smartiecm

    Any bros installed the side window visors/deflectors? Got pics to share? Hope you can share where you bought / installed it, its color and the cost.. Thanks in advance!�

    I bought my window visors from taobao at less than 25 bucks including shipping. It's sort of translucent in colour. Some small scratches but overall quality is ok.

    Bought quite a lot of stuff from taobao.. scuff plates, boot mat, boot side storage, door protection mats, etc. Haha..

    Lr4Imd9.jpg


  • 01 September 2015 - 12:02 AM
    4G63

    I bought my window visors from taobao at less than 25 bucks including shipping. It's sort of translucent in colour. Some small scratches but overall quality is ok.

    Bought quite a lot of stuff from taobao.. scuff plates, boot mat, boot side storage, door protection mats, etc. Haha..

    Lr4Imd9.jpg

    Bro, can share the links and pics of the boot mat, and door protection. Any lobang for dashboard mat? All left hand drive right


  • 01 September 2015 - 08:53 AM
    drwatson

    I bought my window visors from taobao at less than 25 bucks including shipping. It's sort of translucent in colour. Some small scratches but overall quality is ok.

    Bought quite a lot of stuff from taobao.. scuff plates, boot mat, boot side storage, door protection mats, etc. Haha..

    Lr4Imd9.jpg

    u diy the scuff plates and window visor yourself? i bought the scuff plates but i dont know how to install it


  • 01 September 2015 - 09:36 AM
    ricleosg

    u diy the scuff plates and window visor yourself? i bought the scuff plates but i dont know how to install it

    scuff plates should come with double side tapes, just stick them over the existing rubber ones?


  • 01 September 2015 - 09:39 AM
    Lurpsexx

    I bought my window visors from taobao at less than 25 bucks including shipping. It's sort of translucent in colour. Some small scratches but overall quality is ok.

    Bought quite a lot of stuff from taobao.. scuff plates, boot mat, boot side storage, door protection mats, etc. Haha..

    Lr4Imd9.jpg

    Bro, dun mind share the taobao website address? Also how you ship back? I tot taobao dun ship to SG so i dun buy there one...

    anyway, nice window visor.. I was looking for these too... minimalist...� [thumbsup]


  • 01 September 2015 - 09:39 AM
    ricleosg

    Bro, can share the links and pics of the boot mat, and door protection. Any lobang for dashboard mat? All left hand drive right

    the dashboard mat, someone mentioned that if you can contact the seller directly before purchase, you can get them to custom cut one in reverse of the china version.

    What i did was i bough an all black one, both front and back, from the images they looked like they were made of similar material, and i just installed the dashboard mat in reverse. i.e. upside down.�

    the material for the bottom is actually a little bit rougher to the touch compared to the top, but acceptable. just feels like an ikea mat.

    It really works to cut down the glare and reflection from the dash!�


  • 01 September 2015 - 09:45 AM
    ricleosg

    agree that these window visors does look nice. the top silver trim sorts of completes the look. you just need to buy the front A pillar chrome moulding now kekeke

    i was considering an all silver/chrome window visor. wonder if it looks nice compared to this.�

    $_12.JPG

    I bought my window visors from taobao at less than 25 bucks including shipping. It's sort of translucent in colour. Some small scratches but overall quality is ok.

    Bought quite a lot of stuff from taobao.. scuff plates, boot mat, boot side storage, door protection mats, etc. Haha..

    Lr4Imd9.jpg


  • 01 September 2015 - 09:49 AM
    Lurpsexx

    agree that these window visors does look nice. the top silver trim sorts of completes the look. you just need to buy the front A pillar chrome moulding now kekeke

    i was considering an all silver/chrome window visor. wonder if it looks nice compared to this.�

    $_12.JPG

    Ya hor.. I didnt notice the A pillar is black.. would be nice if can get the aftermarket chrome mould to stick there too.. You got any lobang for this bro?


  • 01 September 2015 - 10:01 AM
    ricleosg

    Ya hor.. I didnt notice the A pillar is black.. would be nice if can get the aftermarket chrome mould to stick there too.. You got any lobang for this bro?

    Hehe actually if you look at my last image post of my ride, i have the chrome window trimmings attached all over already.

    I do have a spare set of the front A pillar chrome as I bought a replacement full upper chrome window trim after noticing a little imperfection on the driver side window upper trim. the top parts all come as a set.�

    pm me if interested.

    tried to DIY a car rig, but didn't have the right gear to extend the camera further away from the car!

    rest of the shots with a different lens from last time, but same place location la hehe...

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    20383977884_b0920a1605_h.jpgsDSC02715�by�/'>ricleosg, on Flickr

    20818522620_5a1805d46d_h.jpgsDSC02712�by�/'>ricleosg, on Flickr

    20383983104_8076017502_h.jpgsDSC02708�by�/'>ricleosg, on Flickr

    20818689478_c562a68053_h.jpgsDSC02705�by�/'>ricleosg, on Flickr


  • 01 September 2015 - 10:11 AM
    drwatson

    scuff plates should come with double side tapes, just stick them over the existing rubber ones?

    i was thinking do i need to remove the existing rubber ones. mine doesnt come with LED though.


  • 01 September 2015 - 10:29 AM
    ricleosg

    i was thinking do i need to remove the existing rubber ones. mine doesnt come with LED though.

    hehe mine also non LED. stuck them directly over the rubber ones. you will see that the metal scuff plates are made with curved edges to accomodate the existing rubber ones.


  • 01 September 2015 - 11:22 AM
    ricleosg

    i am toying with the idea of buying a raw unpainted body kit from taobao (about 100+ only) and bringing it to a workshop for a spray job before installation. Just thinking and haven't really decided on it. If it is cheap, perhaps worth the effort.

    anyone has advise on the feasibility and perhaps how much a workshop will charge for this service?

    for this kit below I would trim and cut the rear bumper piece so that it is a small piece like the painted one below, and perhaps even cut out that bumper diffuser and install it separately in black if it looks good.

    T2la3DXmhaXXXXXXXX_!!610985579.jpg

    mDgZS97WucR7X-gnd0IfMhg.jpg


  • 01 September 2015 - 11:32 AM
    rcz

    i am toying with the idea of buying a raw unpainted body kit from taobao (about 100+ only) and bringing it to a workshop for a spray job before installation. Just thinking and haven't really decided on it. If it is cheap, perhaps worth the effort.

    anyone has advise on the feasibility and perhaps how much a workshop will charge for this service?

    for this kit below I would trim and cut the rear bumper piece so that it is a small piece like the painted one below, and perhaps even cut out that bumper diffuser and install it separately in black if it looks good.

    T2la3DXmhaXXXXXXXX_!!610985579.jpg

    mDgZS97WucR7X-gnd0IfMhg.jpg

    ricleosg , does the taobao kits mATCH �our singapore model K3? i read china K3 abit diffrerent.

    i am thinking of doing it in JB workshop.. abt sgd 420 �,ABS materials plus �spraying, after i collect my car


  • 01 September 2015 - 11:40 AM
    ricleosg

    ricleosg , does the taobao kits mATCH �our singapore model K3? i read china K3 abit diffrerent.

    i am thinking of doing it in JB workshop.. abt sgd 420 �,ABS materials plus �spraying, after i collect my car

    actually the external of the SG and China K3 are quite close. the main difference is with the front grill and the rear tail lights, and of course internals everything is left right inverted due to their left hand drive.

    so far all my taobao parts from china fit perfectly. A little apprehensive to go to Malaysia with the safety considerations, especially with a new car haha.....

    the China parts. If i purchase after shipping say $150. if the spray job cost another 200-300 also seems like a good deal. of course the key is that the spray job must be able to color match properly. hence need some recommended workshops from bros here keke.


    Edited by ricleosg, 01 September 2015 - 11:43 AM.

  • 01 September 2015 - 12:38 PM
    rcz

    actually the external of the SG and China K3 are quite close. the main difference is with the front grill and the rear tail lights, and of course internals everything is left right inverted due to their left hand drive.

    so far all my taobao parts from china fit perfectly. A little apprehensive to go to Malaysia with the safety considerations, especially with a new car haha.....

    the China parts. If i purchase after shipping say $150. if the spray job cost another 200-300 also seems like a good deal. of course the key is that the spray job must be able to color match properly. hence need some recommended workshops from bros here keke.

    hmmm... actually if that the case, im keen also. i know 2 workshops they done decent spray job for me. Guess i would have to bring the Kia brochure to them and see what they say.


  • 01 September 2015 - 09:19 PM
    Smartiecm

    Bro, can share the links and pics of the boot mat, and door protection. Any lobang for dashboard mat? All left hand drive right

    Bro, dun mind share the taobao website address? Also how you ship back? I tot taobao dun ship to SG so i dun buy there one...

    anyway, nice window visor.. I was looking for these too... minimalist...� [thumbsup]

    Here are the links to the stuff I bought:

    Boot mat -�http://world.taobao....45164486391.htm�Because it's leather, got a bit of smell when i received it, need to air/sun it first before putting into the boot

    Boot side storage -�http://world.taobao....43450574244.htm

    Door and seat back protection mats -�http://world.tmall.c...?id=18966433201�(bought leather version) and�http://world.tmall.c...?id=37221657138

    Window visors -�http://world.tmall.c...?id=44572855906

    Scuff plates -�http://world.taobao....16374442614.htm�I bought the 32rmb version

    Tyre valve caps -�http://world.taobao....45319987966.htm�I didn't like the black rubber valve caps that came with the car, so bought a set of 4 with Kia logos to replace them� [:p]

    I use 65daigou Ship for Me service for shipping. Sea shipping is $1.50 for every 500g actual or volumetric weight, whichever is higher.


  • 01 September 2015 - 09:25 PM
    Smartiecm

    u diy the scuff plates and window visor yourself? i bought the scuff plates but i dont know how to install it

    Like what bro ricleosg said, the scuff plates come with double-sided tape. So just have to paste over the existing rubber ones.

    The window visors come with double sided tape and hooks as well. Quite simple to diy.


  • 01 September 2015 - 09:31 PM
    Smartiecm

    Haha, yah, I am contemplating whether to buy the chrome trim for the A pillar to 'complete' the look� [:)]

    I am more of a minimalist person, so full silver/chrome window visor is out for me� [:p]� but if you are into it, silver on white car should look nice

    agree that these window visors does look nice. the top silver trim sorts of completes the look. you just need to buy the front A pillar chrome moulding now kekeke

    i was considering an all silver/chrome window visor. wonder if it looks nice compared to this.�

    $_12.JPG


  • 01 September 2015 - 10:12 PM
    Smartiecm

    For the bros who have collected their K3 recently or going to collect soon, do check your Thinkware car cam if your car comes with it.

    I noticed that for mine, the parking mode didn't work properly. As in the parking mode will start (because I hear the voice prompt from the cam) but it only records/detect motion for a very short while.. as in 1 minute or so after parking mode activation. The voltage cutoff should not kick in so soon.

    After some fiddling, I managed to trace the cause to the wiring. I saw from the fuse panel that the cam is hardwired to the internal lights circuit, and it seems that there is some cutoff mechanism that cuts off the power to the cabin lights after some time or after the car is locked. When this happens, power to the cam is cut off as well.

    To fix this, I tried moving the cam wire to tap from the door lock/unlock circuit, and viola, the parking mode is now working properly� [laugh]

    Sharing this here in case mine is not isolated case and there are others who encounter the same problem.


  • 02 September 2015 - 09:02 AM
    Bigmouse1987

    Another suggestion: You can tap your car-cam wire to the SPARE 20A (if I remember correctly) fuse, as C&C, for me, tapped the IU power to the SPARE 20A fuse. I found this out when I decided to take out the SPARE 20A fuse for another purpose, and my IU lost power. HAHA.

    And yes, power to the interior lights will cut out after the engine is off and the car is locked. I find that a great feature! No more dead batteries because of forgetfulness.

    For the bros who have collected their K3 recently or going to collect soon, do check your Thinkware car cam if your car comes with it.

    I noticed that for mine, the parking mode didn't work properly. As in the parking mode will start (because I hear the voice prompt from the cam) but it only records/detect motion for a very short while.. as in 1 minute or so after parking mode activation. The voltage cutoff should not kick in so soon.

    After some fiddling, I managed to trace the cause to the wiring. I saw from the fuse panel that the cam is hardwired to the internal lights circuit, and it seems that there is some cutoff mechanism that cuts off the power to the cabin lights after some time or after the car is locked. When this happens, power to the cam is cut off as well.

    To fix this, I tried moving the cam wire to tap from the door lock/unlock circuit, and viola, the parking mode is now working properly� [laugh]

    Sharing this here in case mine is not isolated case and there are others who encounter the same problem.


  • 02 September 2015 - 10:25 AM
    PeiJiaLing

    anyone knows if the china K3 keys are the same as ours? I'm waiting to collect my car mid sept, so ordering the stuff from taobao in the meantime.�

    was looking at the key holder but not sure if its the same as ours? something like this�http://world.tmall.c...d=3100281256963


  • 02 September 2015 - 10:40 AM
    ricleosg

    anyone knows if the china K3 keys are the same as ours? I'm waiting to collect my car mid sept, so ordering the stuff from taobao in the meantime.�

    was looking at the key holder but not sure if its the same as ours? something like this�http://world.tmall.c...d=3100281256963

    yes this one will fit. but the quality of this listing doesn't seem very good. look for other nicer alternatives.


    personally, i went for these 2 designs

    sport-leather-car-key-set-shell-cover-ca

    Colorful-Flip-Paint-Metallic-Remote-Key-


  • 02 September 2015 - 01:57 PM
    Lurpsexx

    Here are the links to the stuff I bought:

    Boot mat -�http://world.taobao....45164486391.htm�Because it's leather, got a bit of smell when i received it, need to air/sun it first before putting into the boot

    Boot side storage -�http://world.taobao....43450574244.htm

    Door and seat back protection mats -�http://world.tmall.c...?id=18966433201�(bought leather version) and�http://world.tmall.c...?id=37221657138

    Window visors -�http://world.tmall.c...?id=44572855906

    Scuff plates -�http://world.taobao....16374442614.htm�I bought the 32rmb version

    Tyre valve caps -�http://world.taobao....45319987966.htm�I didn't like the black rubber valve caps that came with the car, so bought a set of 4 with Kia logos to replace them� [:p]

    I use 65daigou Ship for Me service for shipping. Sea shipping is $1.50 for every 500g actual or volumetric weight, whichever is higher.

    Thanks a lot for the above lobangs bro! I can't upz you bec I did so recently, but appreciate your kind sharing!� [thumbsup][thumbsup]:a-m1212:


  • 02 September 2015 - 03:50 PM
    Maomao82

    Here are the links to the stuff I bought:

    Boot mat -�http://world.taobao....45164486391.htm�Because it's leather, got a bit of smell when i received it, need to air/sun it first before putting into the boot

    Boot side storage -�http://world.taobao....43450574244.htm

    Door and seat back protection mats -�http://world.tmall.c...?id=18966433201�(bought leather version) and�http://world.tmall.c...?id=37221657138

    Window visors -�http://world.tmall.c...?id=44572855906

    Scuff plates -�http://world.taobao....16374442614.htm�I bought the 32rmb version

    Tyre valve caps -�http://world.taobao....45319987966.htm�I didn't like the black rubber valve caps that came with the car, so bought a set of 4 with Kia logos to replace them� [:p]

    I use 65daigou Ship for Me service for shipping. Sea shipping is $1.50 for every 500g actual or volumetric weight, whichever is higher.

    Bro, how to arrange the shipping? as in the procedure


  • 02 September 2015 - 03:52 PM
    ricleosg

    here you go :)

    https://www.65daigou...China/ShipForMe


  • 02 September 2015 - 06:04 PM
    sgBuyer

    For the bros who have collected their K3 recently or going to collect soon, do check your Thinkware car cam if your car comes with it.

    I noticed that for mine, the parking mode didn't work properly. As in the parking mode will start (because I hear the voice prompt from the cam) but it only records/detect motion for a very short while.. as in 1 minute or so after parking mode activation. The voltage cutoff should not kick in so soon.

    After some fiddling, I managed to trace the cause to the wiring. I saw from the fuse panel that the cam is hardwired to the internal lights circuit, and it seems that there is some cutoff mechanism that cuts off the power to the cabin lights after some time or after the car is locked. When this happens, power to the cam is cut off as well.

    To fix this, I tried moving the cam wire to tap from the door lock/unlock circuit, and viola, the parking mode is now working properly� [laugh]

    Sharing this here in case mine is not isolated case and there are others who encounter the same problem.

    Hi, thanks for sharing.

    I think i am experiencing �the same issue. Do u mind providing more details on how to rewire the cables to tap power from the door locks?.. did u get KIA SA to do it for you or u engaged your workshop outside?

    It will be great if u can take some pics of the hard wiring connected �to the correct source of power.�

    Thanks again�


  • 03 September 2015 - 12:55 AM
    Smartiecm

    Hi, thanks for sharing.

    I think i am experiencing �the same issue. Do u mind providing more details on how to rewire the cables to tap power from the door locks?.. did u get KIA SA to do it for you or u engaged your workshop outside?

    It will be great if u can take some pics of the hard wiring connected �to the correct source of power.�

    Thanks again�

    I did it myself. It's quite simple actually. Just a matter of shifting the fuse tap wire to the correct circuit.

    This is how my original wiring looked like. The red circle shows the fuse tap. There should be 2 of such wires - 1 for continuous recording when engine is on, and 1 for parking mode. For my case, the 1st wire is tapped to the cigarette lighter fuse near the top (not shown in the photo). And the 2nd one is tapped to the interior lights fuse.�
    hqXFEOl.jpg
    If you are game enough to diy, here's what you should do:
    (Disclaimer: I bear no responsibility for any consequence as a result of following these steps)
    Pre-requisite - You need a tweezer with curved end. Alternatively, you can use the plastic fuse puller from the main fuse panel in the engine compartment.�
    1. Remove the fuse panel cover under the steering wheel.
    2. Locate your fuse tap wire for the parking mode. If your case is same as mine, then it will be at the interior lights fuse. Pull out the wire head from the fuse socket.�
    3. There should be 2 fuses at the wire head - a 7.5A one for the interior lights, and a 3A one for the cam.
    4. Use the tweezer to pluck out the 7.5A fuse and insert it back into the interior lights fuse socket at the fuse panel
    5. The fuse for the door lock/unlock is the 20A one besides OFF (blue circle). Use the tweezer to pluck out the 20A fuse and insert it into the now-empty socket at the fuse tap wire head. So now the fuse tap should have a 20A fuse and a 3A fuse.
    6. Insert the fuse tap into the door lock/unlock fuse socket
    7. Put back fuse panel cover
    That's it. You can now start engine, off engine and then test your parking mode. In my case, I used the Thinkware software to enable the blinking led so that I can easily see whether the cam is still on after i lock my car.�
    Hope this helps.

  • 03 September 2015 - 02:23 PM
    ricleosg

    any bros changed their halogen headlights to the Osram night breaker / racer ullimited 110?

    suppose to be "whiter" and brighter. any reviews will be great!

    Not as lucky as the bros here who bought the SX sports with HID. regular SX only came with halogen keke

    NIGHTRACER-110-ADVERT-2.jpg


    Edited by ricleosg, 03 September 2015 - 02:24 PM.

  • 03 September 2015 - 04:53 PM
    FinalNitro

    any bros changed their halogen headlights to the Osram night breaker / racer ullimited 110?

    suppose to be "whiter" and brighter. any reviews will be great!

    Not as lucky as the bros here who bought the SX sports with HID. regular SX only came with halogen keke

    NIGHTRACER-110-ADVERT-2.jpg

    Am using Phillips Ultra Vision bulbs. 4000k, just nice LTA limit.


  • 03 September 2015 - 05:22 PM
    ricleosg

    Am using Phillips Ultra Vision bulbs. 4000k, just nice LTA limit.

    thanks for the reply. how's the reliability of the Philips bulbs? saw some posts about OSRAMs spoiling after 6mths, wonder if it's worth the risk in terms of reliability.


  • 03 September 2015 - 06:52 PM
    Maomao82

    thanks for the reply. how's the reliability of the Philips bulbs? saw some posts about OSRAMs spoiling after 6mths, wonder if it's worth the risk in terms of reliability.

    Previous ride was on Phillips Diamond Vision 5000k, no issue passing LTA inspection.�

    Life Span ~ Typically 8months~11months. For my case a bit special, coz right hand side bulb always blows 1st, after which 3months later left side will follow.

    Actuali $5X yearly quite affordable though.. but now on HID lagi more shiok� [thumbsup]


  • 03 September 2015 - 07:19 PM
    FinalNitro

    thanks for the reply. how's the reliability of the Philips bulbs? saw some posts about OSRAMs spoiling after 6mths, wonder if it's worth the risk in terms of reliability.

    Been using it for 3 months, so far so good. If you want, I recommend you go for the Crystal Vision. There's abit of grey area for LTA whether the colour temperature is 4000k or 4300k. Blue Vision Ultra (mine), 4000k. Crystal Vision, 4300k, looks better.

    Same reason why I went for Phillips. Seen the Osram reliability issue so didn't want to risk.�


  • 04 September 2015 - 12:42 AM
    sgBuyer


    I did it myself. It's quite simple actually. Just a matter of shifting the fuse tap wire to the correct circuit.

    This is how my original wiring looked like. The red circle shows the fuse tap. There should be 2 of such wires - 1 for continuous recording when engine is on, and 1 for parking mode. For my case, the 1st wire is tapped to the cigarette lighter fuse near the top (not shown in the photo). And the 2nd one is tapped to the interior lights fuse.�

    hqXFEOl.jpg

    If you are game enough to diy, here's what you should do:
    (Disclaimer: I bear no responsibility for any consequence as a result of following these steps)

    Pre-requisite - You need a tweezer with curved end. Alternatively, you can use the plastic fuse puller from the main fuse panel in the engine compartment.�

    1. Remove the fuse panel cover under the steering wheel.
    2. Locate your fuse tap wire for the parking mode. If your case is same as mine, then it will be at the interior lights fuse. Pull out the wire head from the fuse socket.�
    3. There should be 2 fuses at the wire head - a 7.5A one for the interior lights, and a 3A one for the cam.
    4. Use the tweezer to pluck out the 7.5A fuse and insert it back into the interior lights fuse socket at the fuse panel
    5. The fuse for the door lock/unlock is the 20A one besides OFF (blue circle). Use the tweezer to pluck out the 20A fuse and insert it into the now-empty socket at the fuse tap wire head. So now the fuse tap should have a 20A fuse and a 3A fuse.
    6. Insert the fuse tap into the door lock/unlock fuse socket
    7. Put back fuse panel cover

    That's it. You can now start engine, off engine and then test your parking mode. In my case, I used the Thinkware software to enable the blinking led so that I can easily see whether the cam is still on after i lock my car.�

    Hope this helps.


    Thanks again for the details.
    I have the same initial connections as you.
    They wired it to the interior lighting for the parking mode.as shown below..

    I like to apply your solution by moving the parking mode cable to tap the door lock power 20A.. but i am not sure about the tools u mentioned n how about to get it done properly. Will u be so kind to provide pic of your tools n the resultant connection on ur fuse panel. Thanks lotz

    Btw besides putting the ignition switch to off, did you disconnect ur car battery / or turned the fuse switch to off? Cos i read some where in the manual that doing the above may reset some of ur electronics in the car which will require some action if reseted. E.g sunroof.

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  • 04 September 2015 - 01:26 PM
    Smartiecm

    Thanks again for the details.
    I have the same initial connections as you.
    They wired it to the interior lighting for the parking mode.as shown below..

    I like to apply your solution by moving the parking mode cable to tap the door lock power 20A.. but i am not sure about the tools u mentioned n how about to get it done properly. Will u be so kind to provide pic of your tools n the resultant connection on ur fuse panel. Thanks lotz

    Btw besides putting the ignition switch to off, did you disconnect ur car battery / or turned the fuse switch to off? Cos i read some where in the manual that doing the above may reset some of ur electronics in the car which will require some action if reseted. E.g sunroof.

    The tool is just something to help you grip the fuse to pluck it out. It can be a tweezer, a plier, or even your thumb and forefinger. In fact, for the fuse on the fuse tap wire, I used my fingers. It's only the 20A one on the fuse panel that I needed the fuse puller because it's quite tight and my fat fingers cannot pull it out� [:p]

    After you pull out the fuse tap wire, it should look something like this

    IMG_7088b.jpg

    If you look at the fuse tap with the legs facing down, the top one should be a 3A fuse and the bottom one should be a 7.5A one. Take out the 7.5A one and push it back into the interior lights fuse socket.

    Then pull out the 20A door lock fuse and insert it into the fuse tap wire. Actually, in your case, you can also use the 10A trunk fuse (middle one in leftmost column) because I see your wire is long enough. Then just push the fuse tap wire into whichever socket you are tapping from.�

    I did not disconnect battery or turn off the fuse switch, so no reset needed. I'll try to take a photo later of how my connection now looks like and post it here.


  • 04 September 2015 - 04:18 PM
    Bigmouse1987

    Hey all, the fuse plucking thingy can be found in the fuse box within your engine bay (under the bonnet)


  • 04 September 2015 - 06:10 PM
    sgBuyer


    The tool is just something to help you grip the fuse to pluck it out. It can be a tweezer, a plier, or even your thumb and forefinger. In fact, for the fuse on the fuse tap wire, I used my fingers. It's only the 20A one on the fuse panel that I needed the fuse puller because it's quite tight and my fat fingers cannot pull it out� [:p]

    After you pull out the fuse tap wire, it should look something like this
    IMG_7088b.jpg

    If you look at the fuse tap with the legs facing down, the top one should be a 3A fuse and the bottom one should be a 7.5A one. Take out the 7.5A one and push it back into the interior lights fuse socket.

    Then pull out the 20A door lock fuse and insert it into the fuse tap wire. Actually, in your case, you can also use the 10A trunk fuse (middle one in leftmost column) because I see your wire is long enough. Then just push the fuse tap wire into whichever socket you are tapping from.�

    I did not disconnect battery or turn off the fuse switch, so no reset needed. I'll try to take a photo later of how my connection now looks like and post it here.


    Really thankful for the detailed explanation. U guys are a great help.
    I will try upload my final connection when i have the chance.

    Hey Bigmouse thanks for the tip too =D

    Hope what we have here can benefit anyone else with this problem. Cheers
  • 04 September 2015 - 09:58 PM
    Smartiecm

    Really thankful for the detailed explanation. U guys are a great help.
    I will try upload my final connection when i have the chance.

    Hey Bigmouse thanks for the tip too =D

    Hope what we have here can benefit anyone else with this problem. Cheers

    Hehe... when I went to take photo of my fuse panel connection, I decided to bring along my multimeter this time. Wanted to test whether the spare 15A and spare 7.5A fuse sockets are live when engine off. True enough, both of them are live, so the parking mode can tap on these also. In the end, I itchy fingers moved my fuse tap wire to the spare 7.5A fuse socket� [:p]

    Anyway, I took photos for both 20A and 7.5A

    a) This is tapping on the door lock 20A fuse

    xMBWO4Z.jpg

    b) This is tapping on the spare 7.5A fuse

    W4GLT3L.jpg

    And 1 more photo to show where the fuse puller is in the engine compartment fuse box

    rCGBozX.jpg


  • 05 September 2015 - 07:52 PM
    darkgod123

    i just realised, if u wanna find your car , how do u find it? no beep sound


  • 05 September 2015 - 10:09 PM
    Enzomatrix

    memory lol


  • 06 September 2015 - 12:02 AM
    Lurpsexx

    Hehe actually if you look at my last image post of my ride, i have the chrome window trimmings attached all over already.

    I do have a spare set of the front A pillar chrome as I bought a replacement full upper chrome window trim after noticing a little imperfection on the driver side window upper trim. the top parts all come as a set.�

    pm me if interested.

    OK bro.. I just reread what you wrote above.. will contact you when I sign for my ride.. which I hope to be very soon...

    Thanks for all of your lobang URLs.. I saw them and they look good for this car...� [thumbsup]


  • 06 September 2015 - 04:44 PM
    Bigmouse1987

    i just realised, if u wanna find your car , how do u find it? no beep sound


    Using the stock alarm system, what you can do is to press the 'lock' button on your remote. The signal lights will flash, but of course, without the usual beeps or alarm. This is Kia's version of the car finder. Lol!

    And if you are more adventurous, you can unlock the car from far away to activate your headlights. To get this working, your headlights lever need to be set to 'auto' and the 'welcome lights' must be switched on using the car trip computer.
  • 07 September 2015 - 06:41 PM
    Enzomatrix

    Using the stock alarm system, what you can do is to press the 'lock' button on your remote. The signal lights will flash, but of course, without the usual beeps or alarm. This is Kia's version of the car finder. Lol!

    And if you are more adventurous, you can unlock the car from far away to activate your headlights. To get this working, your headlights lever need to be set to 'auto' and the 'welcome lights' must be switched on using the car trip computer.

    i tot the welcome lights are the lights at the door handle and side mirror, not ur headlamp.


  • 07 September 2015 - 07:03 PM
    FinalNitro

    i tot the welcome lights are the lights at the door handle and side mirror, not ur headlamp.

    I think he meant the DRL strip, not the main beams.�


    Edited by FinalNitro, 07 September 2015 - 07:03 PM.

  • 07 September 2015 - 08:35 PM
    Enzomatrix

    Using the stock alarm system, what you can do is to press the 'lock' button on your remote. The signal lights will flash, but of course, without the usual beeps or alarm. This is Kia's version of the car finder. Lol!

    And if you are more adventurous, you can unlock the car from far away to activate your headlights. To get this working, your headlights lever need to be set to 'auto' and the 'welcome lights' must be switched on using the car trip computer.

    i tot the welcome lights are the lights at the door handle and side mirror, not ur headlamp.

    the DRL will light up upon unlock? mine doesnt.. damn.


  • 07 September 2015 - 09:36 PM
    Bigmouse1987

    i tot the welcome lights are the lights at the door handle and side mirror, not ur headlamp.


    the DRL will light up upon unlock? mine doesnt.. damn.


    "headlamp delay" or something like that. Yes," welcome light" is for the lights at the side mirrors.

    When I say unlock, I mean unlock using your remote and not unlock by pressing the keyless entry button. :) The headlamps will not light up if you unlock using the keyless entry button.
  • 08 September 2015 - 01:01 PM
    ricleosg

    "headlamp delay" or something like that. Yes," welcome light" is for the lights at the side mirrors.

    When I say unlock, I mean unlock using your remote and not unlock by pressing the keyless entry button. :) The headlamps will not light up if you unlock using the keyless entry button.

    i remember there was once when i had the smart key in my pocket, and i was fumbling and pressing the wrong button to open the boot a few times. i vaguely remember the alarm sounded together with the horn for a few beeps.

    maybe there is a combi / duration of button presses that work as a "car finder" aide.


  • 08 September 2015 - 01:51 PM
    drwatson

    i remember there was once when i had the smart key in my pocket, and i was fumbling and pressing the wrong button to open the boot a few times. i vaguely remember the alarm sounded together with the horn for a few beeps.

    maybe there is a combi / duration of button presses that work as a "car finder" aide.

    Reminds me of how i got my Teddymon during the digimon craze.� [:p]


  • 08 September 2015 - 04:19 PM
    Bigmouse1987

    i remember there was once when i had the smart key in my pocket, and i was fumbling and pressing the wrong button to open the boot a few times. i vaguely remember the alarm sounded together with the horn for a few beeps.

    maybe there is a combi / duration of button presses that work as a "car finder" aide.

    HAHA, happened to me before. Like a PlayStation cheat code, I tried pressing the remote buttons in many ways, but no car finder leh. Asked my SE, and she said the same thing - no audible beeps for car finder.


  • 08 September 2015 - 11:59 PM
    7hm

    i remember there was once when i had the smart key in my pocket, and i was fumbling and pressing the wrong button to open the boot a few times. i vaguely remember the alarm sounded together with the horn for a few beeps.

    maybe there is a combi / duration of button presses that work as a "car finder" aide.

    my ride blasts its horn angrily at me twice when i get out and close the door without leaving the key inside and engine running... got a shock when it first happened :a-panic:


  • 09 September 2015 - 09:27 AM
    ricleosg

    my ride blasts its horn angrily at me twice when i get out and close the door without leaving the key inside and engine running... got a shock when it first happened :a-panic:

    wa blast it's horn? K3 just has an annoying beep intermittently. if you exit the car with the keys while the engine is running.

    think this is a safety protection feature to prevent you from leaving the car running. There have been cases of cars running overnight in garages connected to ppl's houses in the US, resulting in carbon monoxide poisoning.


  • 09 September 2015 - 03:02 PM
    Bluebull

    Am using Phillips Ultra Vision bulbs. 4000k, just nice LTA limit.

    Changed to these:

    http://www.powerbulb...evision-h7-twin

    Bought from Powerbulbs, they always have 15-20% off coupon codes.

    They are 4300k so don't expect them to be white light bulbs, just the packaging tries to make you think of them as white lighted bulbs only.

    Whiter than default bulbs, brighter and longer throw.


  • 09 September 2015 - 04:02 PM
    FinalNitro

    Changed to these:

    http://www.powerbulb...evision-h7-twin

    Bought from Powerbulbs, they always have 15-20% off coupon codes.

    They are 4300k so don't expect them to be white light bulbs, just the packaging tries to make you think of them as white lighted bulbs only.

    Whiter than default bulbs, brighter and longer throw.

    Yeap I bought mine from there as well. Great service and fast delivery despite shipping from the UK.

    Btw I got a set of H11 BlueVision Ultra bulbs, unopened. Colour temperate, 4000k. Let me know if anyone is interested.�


    Edited by FinalNitro, 09 September 2015 - 04:03 PM.

  • 10 September 2015 - 01:55 AM
    Javierpoon
    Good news fellow K3 kakis. Just got my COE bidding(1st try) today! Will be gg down to make balance payment and settle paperwork this week.. Gonna join the K3 gang soon!
  • 10 September 2015 - 09:23 AM
    flashbang

    Good news fellow K3 kakis. Just got my COE bidding(1st try) today! Will be gg down to make balance payment and settle paperwork this week.. Gonna join the K3 gang soon!


    Just wondering, what was your reserve price?
  • 10 September 2015 - 09:43 AM
    drwatson

    Good news fellow K3 kakis. Just got my COE bidding(1st try) today! Will be gg down to make balance payment and settle paperwork this week.. Gonna join the K3 gang soon!

    guarantee or non G?


  • 10 September 2015 - 09:52 AM
    Javierpoon



    guarantee or non G?



    Non Guaranteed. Reserve price was at 57,999.
  • 10 September 2015 - 09:52 AM
    ricleosg

    Yeap I bought mine from there as well. Great service and fast delivery despite shipping from the UK.

    Btw I got a set of H11 BlueVision Ultra bulbs, unopened. Colour temperate, 4000k. Let me know if anyone is interested.�

    nice! can i check for our K3 lowbeam headlights, do we buy the H7? or other model? H11 is for which bulbs?


    Edited by ricleosg, 10 September 2015 - 09:53 AM.

  • 10 September 2015 - 10:04 AM
    drwatson

    Non Guaranteed. Reserve price was at 57,999.

    yours is sports? my friend didnt manage to get his COE this round. His Non-G as well.


  • 10 September 2015 - 11:52 AM
    Javierpoon


    yours is sports? my friend didnt manage to get his COE this round. His Non-G as well.


    Yup I got the SX model. Your friend bought the EX?
  • 10 September 2015 - 12:13 PM
    drwatson

    Yup I got the SX model. Your friend bought the EX?

    yeap EX.


  • 10 September 2015 - 12:20 PM
    Maomao82

    Good news fellow K3 kakis. Just got my COE bidding(1st try) today! Will be gg down to make balance payment and settle paperwork this week.. Gonna join the K3 gang soon!

    Gratz Javieporn, �remember to join the K3 Watapps Group.

    :a-panic:�*Caution: Poison Alert*� :a-panic:


  • 10 September 2015 - 12:23 PM
    danzo

    yours is sports? my friend didnt manage to get his COE this round. His Non-G as well.

    I think it also depend on the total package price and any discounts given for AD to determine the reserve price?...�


  • 10 September 2015 - 12:54 PM
    Javierpoon



    Gratz Javieporn, �remember to join the K3 Watapps Group.

    HahAha. How to join ah?
    :a-panic:�*Caution: Poison Alert*� :a-panic:


  • 10 September 2015 - 02:34 PM
    FinalNitro

    nice! can i check for our K3 lowbeam headlights, do we buy the H7? or other model? H11 is for which bulbs?

    Sorry bro I don't drive a K3 so I'm not really sure. Probably you can check your owner's manual, should be stated there for any bulbs in the car.


  • 10 September 2015 - 02:56 PM
    flashbang
    It's simple maths.

    Car cost for SX = 39K
    COE reserve price = 57,999
    Total cost = 97k
    Selling price = 105k (non guaranteed)

    Kia's profit margin on SX = 8k

    EX car cost = 32,700
    Selling price = 95k (non guaranteed)

    Hence I expect his reserve price to be around 54k, which is obviously unattainable in the current market.

    By the way this also means for those buying SX, non guaranteed bid is a good choice if COE stays around this level. No need to pay an extra 4k ^_^
  • 10 September 2015 - 04:47 PM
    rcz

    It's simple maths.

    Car cost for SX = 39K
    COE reserve price = 57,999
    Total cost = 97k
    Selling price = 105k (non guaranteed)

    Kia's profit margin on SX = 8k

    EX car cost = 32,700
    Selling price = 95k (non guaranteed)

    Hence I expect his reserve price to be around 54k, which is obviously unattainable in the current market.

    By the way this also means for those buying SX, non guaranteed bid is a good choice if COE stays around this level. No need to pay an extra 4k ^_^

    �my AD presented to me... gtd coe xtras 4k but aso incld 3 yr servicing which cost 2k. so actually paying jus 2k for cfm coe wor...did i get con?�
    getting my car nxt week


  • 10 September 2015 - 05:10 PM
    danzo

    �my AD presented to me... gtd coe xtras 4k but aso incld 3 yr servicing which cost 2k. so actually paying jus 2k for cfm coe wor...did i get con?�
    getting my car nxt week

    Actually the worth of 3 year servicing/60K package depend on your car usage pattern...

    cos I understand that each service points is by mileage attained: �10K, 20K, 30K, 40K, 50K, 60K.

    If you drive say only 36K in 3 years, you actually get to use only 3 services (10k, 20K, 30K), and will forgo the rest (40K, 50K, 60K) as you will only reach those beyond the 3 year mark.

    If each service ave about $300, then 3 services is only about $900.


    Edited by danzo, 10 September 2015 - 05:17 PM.

  • 10 September 2015 - 05:37 PM
    flashbang

    �my AD presented to me... gtd coe xtras 4k but aso incld 3 yr servicing which cost 2k. so actually paying jus 2k for cfm coe wor...did i get con?�
    getting my car nxt week


    Once paid, don't need to think too much. But from the calculations above you can see that non guaranteed COE for SX is as good as guaranteed, based on their targeted profit margin.
  • 10 September 2015 - 06:36 PM
    Lurpsexx

    Actually the worth of 3 year servicing/60K package depend on your car usage pattern...

    cos I understand that each service points is by mileage attained: �10K, 20K, 30K, 40K, 50K, 60K.

    If you drive say only 36K in 3 years, you actually get to use only 3 services (10k, 20K, 30K), and will forgo the rest (40K, 50K, 60K) as you will only reach those beyond the 3 year mark.

    If each service ave about $300, then 3 services is only about $900.

    No bro, its 10K or 6 mths whichever is earlier.. so if you drive <10K but hit 6 mths, you go service.... Correct me if I am wrong k?� [:p]

    See this bro..�/documents/webbasiccontent/079830.pdf'>http://www.kia.com/sg/wcm/groups/webcontent//documents/webbasiccontent/079830.pdf


    Edited by Lurpsexx, 10 September 2015 - 06:37 PM.

  • 10 September 2015 - 07:11 PM
    Quahfamili

    Hi,

    I just got my COE on first bid too. Non-gtd. SX model. Stream Metal. Expected to get car by Weds or Thurs next week.

    I was talking to the sale exec today when I goes down to pay the balance. Most EX non-gtd get their COE. According to the SE, it is indeed cos the profit margin of the car.�

    I m officially a K3 owner!

    Cheers


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