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ALL consolidated SMRT/NEL/KTM simisai BREAKDOWNS here! part 41

  • 01 August 2016 - 11:24 AM
    Davidtch

    Emergency button is STOP button??


  • 01 August 2016 - 12:45 PM
    Ktglfc

    Latest issue on train is the train passed 3 stations without stopping? This is scary!!!

    Maybe to them, its not critical ... and so far, still no news on this ...


  • 01 August 2016 - 01:27 PM
    Kopites
    Phoenix staion? I think I haven't been taking smrt lately. Never heard of such station. Once of the weekend may be I should try it out..round singapore trip on smrt.
  • 01 August 2016 - 01:32 PM
    Blueray

    Phoenix staion? I think I haven't been taking smrt lately. Never heard of such station. Once of the weekend may be I should try it out..round singapore trip on smrt.

    Phoenix station is LRT.


  • 01 August 2016 - 01:39 PM
    13177

    Maybe to them, its not critical ... and so far, still no news on this ...

    Think now they dont response to any thing associate with breakdown. Cause it have become too common and standard. Unless someone die or anything very major happened.� [rolleyes]


  • 01 August 2016 - 02:13 PM
    Beregond

    Think now they dont response to any thing associate with breakdown. Cause it have become too common and standard. Unless someone die or anything very major happened.� [rolleyes]

    when i read,�

    'emergency stop and emergency speaker not working'

    its giving me the feeling of fake�surveillance camera police install to deter crime.

    when crime happen. 'sorry its to scare robber only'

    [hur]


  • 01 August 2016 - 02:34 PM
    Philipkee

    Think now they dont response to any thing associate with breakdown. Cause it have become too common and standard. Unless someone die or anything very major happened. [rolleyes]

    I think its more of hoping another issue rise up and this issue is forgotten. Then they put a small paragraph and no one's the wiser.

    I shudder to think if a fire broke out and the train does not stop and both emergency speaker and button does not work.

    Edited by Philipkee, 01 August 2016 - 02:35 PM.

  • 01 August 2016 - 02:38 PM
    Joseph22

    Emergency button is STOP button??

    Inside train its not a stop button. It's a button to communicate to station control.. Like a phone button
  • 01 August 2016 - 02:40 PM
    Davidtch

    Inside train its not a stop button. It's a button to communicate to station control.. Like a phone button

    I know.� But the person who the letter don't know.


  • 01 August 2016 - 02:41 PM
    Joseph22

    I know. But the person who the letter don't know.

    Oh... Maybe new citizen..
  • 01 August 2016 - 04:14 PM
    13177

    I remember reading before that SMRT release a statement around 20 years ago that the emergency button inside the train don't stop the train when someone question why when they press the train didn't stop.

    I believe the button inside the train should not able to stop the train. The button should be use to communicate with operators at the control station, and operators there should take it from there. But thing now is even the button is not working lo.�


  • 01 August 2016 - 04:16 PM
    Mustank
    fullsizephoto713613.jpg

    :grin:
  • 01 August 2016 - 04:16 PM
    Blueray
    The pertinent question here is any chio bu inside the train ... :-D
  • 01 August 2016 - 04:25 PM
    Joseph22

    I believe the button inside the train should not able to stop the train. The button should be use to communicate with operators at the control station, and operators there should take it from there. But thing now is even the button is not working lo.

    Because no one ever try it out.
  • 01 August 2016 - 06:41 PM
    Kb27

    There you go.

    No emergency halt button.

    When the train becomes a runaway, good luck.

    Even my laopok van, turbo diesel engine has a kill switch, in case of a turbo runaway.


  • 01 August 2016 - 06:54 PM
    Watwheels

    There you go.

    No emergency halt button.

    When the train becomes a runaway, good luck.

    Even my laopok van, turbo diesel engine has a kill switch, in case of a turbo runaway.

    Can use a waste gate what. Why go thru so much trouble to make a kill switch for a turbo runaway? What's "turbo runaway" sia?

    This is one old school tech I have not even heard of.


  • 01 August 2016 - 07:12 PM
    Kb27

    Can use a waste gate what. Why go thru so much trouble to make a kill switch for a turbo runaway? What's "turbo runaway" sia?

    This is one old school tech I have not even heard of.

    The turbo is cooled by engine oil. If the oil seal breaks, engine oil gets sucked into the air intake.

    Since diesel eats oil for fuel, it became a runaway, until all the engine oil is consumed.

    The "kill" switch is nothing more than a solenoid which shuts down the air intake, when you switch off the engine.

    The point is, something can happen, even with the best designed train and system. Where's the emergency shutdown ?


    Edited by Kb27, 01 August 2016 - 07:30 PM.

  • 01 August 2016 - 08:15 PM
    Blueray
    Antenna fault causes Bukit Panjang LRT train to skip 3 stations: SMRT

    .....

    While Ms Bong also said that she felt that the train had been moving quite fast, SMRT confirmed that it did not exceed 55kmh during the incident.

    BPLRT trains typically operate at between 30kmh and 505kmh.� [jawdrop]

    .....

    http://www.straitsti...3-stations-smrt


  • 01 August 2016 - 09:58 PM
    Baal

    Antenna fault causes Bukit Panjang LRT train to skip 3 stations: SMRT
    .....
    While Ms Bong also said that she felt that the train had been moving quite fast, SMRT confirmed that it did not exceed 55kmh during the incident.

    BPLRT trains typically operate at between 30kmh and 505kmh. [jawdrop]

    .....

    http://www.straitsti...3-stations-smrt

    commuter trust running away at 505kmh will take a really long time to stop or just slow down.
  • 02 August 2016 - 07:49 AM
    Mustank

    In other news, I realise I can praise a topic twice.

    Can ownself praise ownself? :grin:

    There you go.

    No emergency halt button.

    When the train becomes a runaway, good luck.

    Even my laopok van, turbo diesel engine has a kill switch, in case of a turbo runaway.

    Mine don't have
    Just step brake only :XD:
  • 02 August 2016 - 09:10 AM
    Mason016

    Everywhere breakdown loh

    https://twitter.com/...erp|twgr^author

    NSL 10 minutes between Yihsun and Woodlands or so they say [laugh]

    EWL no service between Boon Lay and Joo KOon


    Edited by Mason016, 02 August 2016 - 09:11 AM.

  • 02 August 2016 - 09:14 AM
    Kopites
    They going to encourage foldable bike onto the train? Hahaha

    I am not in any technical field. I might be wrong. As a laymen if they can get a contractor to install/maintain the erp that can never breakdown why can't they do the same?

    Edited by Kopites, 02 August 2016 - 09:18 AM.

  • 02 August 2016 - 09:19 AM
    Blueray

    Everywhere breakdown loh

    https://twitter.com/...erp|twgr^author

    NSL 10 minutes between Yihsun and Woodlands or so they say [laugh]

    EWL no service between Boon Lay and Joo KOon

    later they will say velly the sorri for the inconvenience caused ...

    investigating and looking into the matter ...

    same old same old ...� :lll._.:


  • 02 August 2016 - 09:21 AM
    13177

    It is very troubling the way .......

    Instead of quickly re-assure public using the train, they throw in 'excuse' and wash their hands clean.

    I think I need to send them some Hollywood movies (DVD) on how a run-away train can cause major disaster.

    I think it is always the typical way that they reply to any complaint and issue happened on their train or bus. They can always find 1001 ways of excuse to wash their hands clean completely.�


  • 02 August 2016 - 09:27 AM
    Kopites

    I think it is always the typical way that they reply to any complaint and issue happened on their train or bus. They can always find 1001 ways of excuse to wash their hands clean completely.

    Without looking at the thread title I thought you was referring to our government.
  • 02 August 2016 - 09:29 AM
    13177

    They going to encourage foldable bike onto the train? Hahaha

    I am not in any technical field. I might be wrong. As a laymen if they can get a contractor to install/maintain the erp that can never breakdown why can't they do the same?

    Regret to inform you that train service does not generate huge profits and revenue and still suffer loss, whereas ERP generates millions of�profits and revenue.


    Without looking at the thread title I thought you was referring to our government.

    Whether smrt or govt, ultimately still same same. Lol.� [rolleyes]


    Everywhere breakdown loh

    https://twitter.com/...erp|twgr^author

    NSL 10 minutes between Yihsun and Woodlands or so they say [laugh]

    EWL no service between Boon Lay and Joo KOon

    Train service breakdown again!� [shakehead]


  • 02 August 2016 - 09:31 AM
    Pinobii
    Smrt not only needs to change ceo, pr spokesperson needs a change too

    Defensive writting style needs a change

    So what if it is travelling at a speed not exceeding 55 km/hr, the concerning thing is that it didnt stop when it is supposed to and accordingly to ms bong, it nearly collided with another train?

    Do they not understand that living things are on board their train and at stake? Must there be fatalities before they wake up

    Beyond hopeless
  • 02 August 2016 - 09:41 AM
    Ktglfc

    Everywhere breakdown loh

    https://twitter.com/...erp|twgr^author

    NSL 10 minutes between Yihsun and Woodlands or so they say [laugh]

    EWL no service between Boon Lay and Joo KOon

    Same old stories every day every time ...

    Listen to the news from them also listen until sian ....


  • 02 August 2016 - 09:47 AM
    13177

    Smrt not only needs to change ceo, pr spokesperson needs a change too

    Defensive writting style needs a change

    So what if it is travelling at a speed not exceeding 55 km/hr, the concerning thing is that it didnt stop when it is supposed to and accordingly to ms bong, it nearly collided with another train?

    Do they not understand that living things are on board their train and at stake? Must there be fatalities before they wake up

    Beyond hopeless

    If no one die, dont think they will be bother. I guess even someone die, maybe they also no feeling.


  • 02 August 2016 - 10:05 AM
    Picnic06-Biante15

    Phoenix staion? I think I haven't been taking smrt lately. Never heard of such station. Once of the weekend may be I should try it out..round singapore trip on smrt.

    You mean non-stop trip ....� :wut:

    Now only 3 stations non-stop. Wait until the LRT goes round and round non-stop, that's interesting ... :a-happy:


  • 02 August 2016 - 10:06 AM
    13177

    You mean non-stop trip ....� :wut:

    Now only 3 stations non-stop. Wait until the LRT goes round and round non-stop, that's interesting ... :a-happy:

    Train cannot goes round and round non-stop la, cause surely will collide with another train along the track.


  • 02 August 2016 - 10:09 AM
    Picnic06-Biante15

    This time the fault is broken antenna.
    12065518_1013099412044621_31425760803648SMRT2 hrs���

    Now, who broke the antenna ?

    Was it due to 'hair line' cracks�with no safety issue that were�not detected .....� :slow:


  • 02 August 2016 - 10:10 AM
    Picnic06-Biante15

    Train cannot goes round and round non-stop la, cause surely will collide with another train along the track.

    When such things happen, all trains on the track will go round & round......

    Cos, Antenna broken, no signal for trains to stop .. :XD:


  • 02 August 2016 - 10:18 AM
    Mason016

    Now, who broke the antenna ?

    Was it due to 'hair line' cracks�with no safety issue that were�not detected .....� :slow:

    Recently got strong winds generated by cow dung that SMRT has left in hairline cracks.� [laugh]


  • 02 August 2016 - 10:23 AM
    13177

    When such things happen, all trains on the track will go round & round......

    Cos, Antenna broken, no signal for trains to stop .. :XD:

    Wa, like merry go-round sia.� [dizzy]


  • 02 August 2016 - 10:37 AM
    Weez911

    What, Joo Koon line down again today?

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  • 02 August 2016 - 10:37 AM
    Jayy25

    the lady in question bites back at their ridiculous standard reply.

    check out the funny comments (circled in blue and yellow highlighted)

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  • 02 August 2016 - 10:43 AM
    Kusje

    I think her comment will be deleted soon� [smallcry]

    if she still continues to pursue this matter, possible to arrest her under ISA?� :D


  • 02 August 2016 - 10:49 AM
    Jayy25

    i also joined in the mud sling... cannot tahan how they treat us as bloody fools... in army term, they really need some blood in their brains... eh.. wait do they have it?� [grin]

    Capture.GIF


    Edited by Jayy25, 02 August 2016 - 10:49 AM.

  • 02 August 2016 - 10:50 AM
    Joseph22

    the lady in question bites back at their ridiculous standard reply.


    check out the funny comments (circled in blue and yellow highlighted)

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    Is she new citizen? It's well known since the beginning of mrt system that e-button inside the train is not for E-stop.
  • 02 August 2016 - 10:54 AM
    Picnic06-Biante15

    Maybe SMRT trying out the "Express" train service lar.... :ignoring:

    Only stop at certain stops. :we-all-gonna-die:

    KTM also has "express" train service to KL. The train will not stop at certain stations along the way ... [sly]


  • 02 August 2016 - 10:57 AM
    Baal

    Though the handbrake/parking brake for cars are less effective than the foot-brake; it will nevertheless still bring a moving car to a stop and not just hold the car in place after it has completely stopped moving.

    I think its reasonable for a layman to view it this way and to be alarmed to learn of its intended use while on the go.�


  • 02 August 2016 - 11:00 AM
    Kusje

    Is she new citizen? It's well known since the beginning of mrt system that e-button inside the train is not for E-stop.

    Then why does the sign say "Emergency next station stop"?


  • 02 August 2016 - 11:05 AM
    Jayy25

    Then why does the sign say "Emergency next station stop"?

    very soon, we have the SMRT spokeperson saying it is the "Labeling fault and we will change them to be more concise"� [smash]


  • 02 August 2016 - 11:06 AM
    Joseph22

    Then why does the sign say "Emergency next station stop"?

    LRT button different from SMRT ah??? I never take before.
  • 02 August 2016 - 11:30 AM
    Davidtch

    They going to encourage foldable bike onto the train? Hahaha

    I am not in any technical field. I might be wrong. As a laymen if they can get a contractor to install/maintain the erp that can never breakdown why can't they do the same?

    That's the irony of Singapore.

    In front of my estate, there is a gantry that works 5 days wk for 30mins everyday.� It is to make sure that there is no leakage in collection of ERP.

    On the other hand, no effort is spend to ensure that our MRT is running smoothly.


    Smrt not only needs to change ceo, pr spokesperson needs a change too

    Defensive writting style needs a change

    So what if it is travelling at a speed not exceeding 55 km/hr, the concerning thing is that it didnt stop when it is supposed to and accordingly to ms bong, it nearly collided with another train?

    Do they not understand that living things are on board their train and at stake? Must there be fatalities before they wake up

    Beyond hopeless

    I believe you can do a better job than Desmond Quek at half of the price.


  • 02 August 2016 - 11:33 AM
    13177

    That's the irony of Singapore.

    In front of my estate, there is a gantry that works 5 days wk for 30mins everyday.� It is to make sure that there is no leakage in collection of ERP.

    On the other hand, no effort is spend to ensure that our MRT is running smoothly.

    Cannot like this say de, thought smrt always tell us that they are making effort to improve our mrt system by injecting with all the improving projects that are going on now? Lol.�


  • 02 August 2016 - 11:35 AM
    Davidtch

    Cannot like this say de, thought smrt always tell us that they are making effort to improve our mrt system by injecting with all the improving projects that are going on now? Lol.�

    Maybe i should volunteer myself to take over Desmond Quek at half of the price.

    If i don't reduce the number of breakdown by 50%, i will donate all FULL YEAR salary to every staff in SMRT.


  • 02 August 2016 - 11:38 AM
    13177

    Maybe i should volunteer myself to take over Desmond Quek at half of the price.

    If i don't reduce the number of breakdown by 50%, i will donate all FULL YEAR salary to every staff in SMRT.

    Now the problem in our train system is not who is the ceo liao, it is the underlying problem that our system is being built back then. Think something already is wrong when they built this mrt system.


  • 02 August 2016 - 11:44 AM
    Davidtch

    Now the problem in our train system is not who is the ceo liao, it is the underlying problem that our system is being built back then. Think something already is wrong when they built this mrt system.

    The system is build with population projection then (30 yrs ago).� It was not wrong then.

    So, population projection was tuned up.� This information may not be passed down to LTA.� Even pass down to LTA, nothing will be done as LTA will taichi to operator.

    With the correct calibre of leadership, the fault might be identified and ratified as quickly as possible.

    Currently, i have doubt in his leadership as nothing was done (from a layman perspective) since he came on board.


  • 02 August 2016 - 12:08 PM
    Joseph22

    The system is build with population projection then (30 yrs ago). It was not wrong then.

    So, population projection was tuned up. This information may not be passed down to LTA. Even pass down to LTA, nothing will be done as LTA will taichi to operator.

    With the correct calibre of leadership, the fault might be identified and ratified as quickly as possible.

    Currently, i have doubt in his leadership as nothing was done (from a layman perspective) since he came on board.

    All his proposal kenna shoot down by LTA. Nothing much he can do also.
  • 02 August 2016 - 12:12 PM
    Davidtch

    All his proposal kenna shoot down by LTA. Nothing much he can do also.

    Who says nothing he can do?

    He can always approach Hui Ge.


  • 02 August 2016 - 12:30 PM
    Kb27

    Now, who broke the antenna ?

    Was it due to 'hair line' cracks�with no safety issue that were�not detected .....� :slow:

    Antenna also no redundancy.

    How much does a stick of wire cost ?


  • 02 August 2016 - 12:36 PM
    Vratenza

    Based on the recent National Arts Council's standard?

    Antenna cost: $80

    Workmanship: $800

    Consultation fee: $8000

    Total: $8880

    Huat arh!

    :D

    Antenna also no redundancy.

    How much does a stick of wire cost ?


  • 02 August 2016 - 12:42 PM
    Vratenza

    Come come..... I outbid you :D�:

    If i don't reduce the number of breakdown by 51%, i will donate all FULL YEAR salary to every staff in SMRT and give them a $10 angbao each at next year's CNY

    :a-happy:

    Maybe i should volunteer myself to take over Desmond Quek at half of the price.

    If i don't reduce the number of breakdown by 50%, i will donate all FULL YEAR salary to every staff in SMRT.


  • 02 August 2016 - 12:49 PM
    Blueray

    Antenna also no redundancy.
    How much does a stick of wire cost ?

    Maybe can t loan the 77 or 47 set antenna from SAF ... Desmond make one phone call ...
  • 02 August 2016 - 12:53 PM
    Joseph22

    Who says nothing he can do?

    He can always approach Hui Ge.

    I think he cursing Hui ge for making life difficult for him Lor.. Still want to see him for what?

    Based on the recent National Arts Council's standard?

    Antenna cost: $80
    Workmanship: $800
    Consultation fee: $8000

    Total: $8880

    Huat arh!
    :D

    Don't blame them lah... Artist mind different from normal human. Those messy drawing can worth a few millions. Not surprise they think rubbish building is this price.
  • 02 August 2016 - 01:10 PM
    Picnic06-Biante15

    Based on the recent National Arts Council's standard?

    Antenna cost: $80

    Workmanship: $800

    Consultation fee: $8000

    Total: $8880

    Huat arh!

    :D

    That's per worker hor..... :a-aggressive:

    This one Team effort : one holding the ladder, one climb up the ladder, one passing the antenna, one holding the spanner, one testing signal, one holding wireless lap-top�and one supervisor. So 7 men x $800 = $5,600/-

    :XD::XD:


  • 02 August 2016 - 01:14 PM
    Kopites

    Is she new citizen? It's well known since the beginning of mrt system that e-button inside the train is not for E-stop.

    E-STOP for erecting press stop?
  • 02 August 2016 - 01:15 PM
    Joseph22

    E-STOP for erecting press stop?

    Okay okay... I know... Go back Liverpool thread.
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