mycarforum: ALL consolidated SMRT/NEL/KTM simisai BREAKDOWNS here! part 9

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Sure or not?

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Stupid fool was just quoted at the mrt station saying that they need this time to complete all the visual inspections (eye power) and impedance tests.....�

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They managed to do it without stopping the trains in less than an hour? Or maybe they decided that they can just keep resetting the breakers?

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if I am paid 50% of his salary, I will do night duty and early morning standby station at least once a week regardless if there is any breakdown

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I'll do better.

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Twice a week for 49% his salary.

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I wonder.......u mean wif a $2M+/annual salary budget, they couldn't poach an super duper experienced London Tube, NY subway or Tokyo JR chief to run our little MRT network and had to rely on a paper general wif zeo experience to do the job?? The mind boggles.� �

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they couldn't last 2 days in the job� [sweatdrop]

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Why not Jurong East? He'll understand what "squish" means.

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Middle of the nite got call from Boss...... Lui, cho simi LJ..... tomorrow early early better go look see at AMK make sure the train run smooth smooth.... dont care you use lubricant, ky gel, cable tie, 7 tonner to tow..... limpeh dont want residents comprain.... u better make sure the train run.... so 7 early 8 early go AMK look see lor....� [rolleyes]

They managed to do it without stopping the trains in less than an hour? Or maybe they decided that they can just keep resetting the breakers?

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they want to save face mah, stop operating for 5hrs is damn xia suay u noe...

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we shld b asking who is the person who appointed desmond as CEO...

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The same person who gibe him a fat bonus....� [lipsrsealed]

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why not woodlands, no choa chu kang, why Ang Mo Kio?

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You must know who's ward AMK belong to [sly]

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they want to save face mah, stop operating for 5hrs is damn xia suay u noe...

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No safety issue? What if the passengers get electrocuted on the train? :yuush:

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if I am paid 50% of his salary, I will do night duty and early morning standby station at least once a week regardless if there is any breakdown

Hahaha...

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No safety issue? What if the passengers get electrocuted on the train?

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as long they no walk on track should be safe bah,

at worst is tio stuck in train and lao sai kui kor� [laugh]

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as long they no walk on track should be safe bah,

at worst is tio stuck in train and lao sai kui kor�

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like this? [laugh]

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like this?

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this is special SG50 Walk on Track, ie. preview of Rail Corridor new usage...

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AMK...start with A ....Amos is it??

ha ha ha

Try again... it starts with L and ends with e... The "stronghold" of PAP...

Does anyone know of best way to be notified of breakdowns?

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I want to know at point it happened and from an official source, so as to make alternative travel plan BEFORE reaching the bloody station.

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Think Transitlink got no more SMS already.�

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Is SMRT twitter fast reacting enough? How to make phone only sound an alert notification from only that SMRT channel?

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Sorry I noob

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I had MyTransport app from LTA installed and it prompted me of the train breakdown at 7.45pm. Look at the screenshot I took and sent to my wife. Her normal bus journey of 10mins became 45mins.

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There suppose to be pop up message.� But it fails yesterday.� When i check Mytransport, there is already announcement before 8pm.� Pop up message only pop up at 8:15pm.

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No leh. Mine prompted me at 7.45pm. Then I screenshot and send it to wifey as she was outside.

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ST very funny... come out with this article at this time to remind everybody of the breakdowns... [laugh] [laugh]

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Not that it's something you want to remember, but some major MRT breakdowns in recent years: str.sg/WQv

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No leh. Mine prompted me at 7.45pm. Then I screenshot and send it to wifey as she was outside.

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Your phone running on IOS or Android?
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Middle of the nite got call from Boss...... Lui, cho simi LJ..... tomorrow early early better go look see at AMK make sure the train run smooth smooth.... dont care you use lubricant, ky gel, cable tie, 7 tonner to tow..... limpeh dont want residents comprain.... u better make sure the train run.... so 7 early 8 early go AMK look see lor....�

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Why he choose AMK station to visit which is not the most crowded ? :wut:

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He should choose Bishan station and see the interchange madness every morning .... :omg:

ST very funny... come out with this article at this time to remind everybody of the breakdowns...

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Not that it's something you want to remember, but some major MRT breakdowns in recent years: str.sg/WQv

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Good reminder to SMRT, MOT & LTA.

Somebody go and cut wire?

Rats in tunnel? Big ones not the Jerry type.

frm tuckyou's FB:

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Keith Lang�Dear Minister, I feel sorry for you. A lot of these issues probably are not your fault, but you will face the brunt of public anger because of your position, just like your predecessor, Raymond Lim, who was removed from the Cabinet. ...

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The more I think about it, the more I feel that the appointment of the Transport Minister is used as a scapegoat for failed planning by other Ministers. The Transport Minister is not directly responsible for the vast influx of immigrants. And both Raymond Lim and Lui Tuck Yew are not in the PAP EXCO. Does that say something by itself?�

When public transport fails, at most the public will complain against Raymond Lim or Lui Tuck Yew, when they fail to realise it is the broader economic policy which has brought about these failures.

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During his term as a transport ministar, he has pissed off both public transport users & car buyers.

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I can see how this is gonna translate into a MBT-style whipping boy at the next GE.�

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Time to bring the popcorn.�

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Your phone running on IOS or Android?
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Samsung S6 and I was outside also. At the nursing home visiting my mama. On Singtel line.

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it is time...

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Rats in tunnel? Big ones not the Jerry type.

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bukit batok rats migrate to mrt tunnel? dammm

ST very funny... come out with this article at this time to remind everybody of the breakdowns...

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Not that it's something you want to remember, but some major MRT breakdowns in recent years: str.sg/WQv

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ST very funny... come out with this article at this time to remind everybody of the breakdowns...
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Not that it's something you want to remember, but some major MRT breakdowns in recent years: str.sg/WQv

Telling you it is common, dun comprain.

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Unfortunately , this " somebody " is usually not who we think / thought / expected.

It�will be " we "�... the�peasant , passengers ...who else.

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Seems white is the in colour... [laugh]

Edited by Mason016, 08 July 2015 - 11:21 AM.

I think this means it's nobody's fault, it is the power surge fault. Everything back to normal, everyone go back to work, there's nothing more to see here.

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SMRT CEO Desmond Quek: "We would like to apologise to commuters and all who were inconvenienced by the ??MRT? disruptions. SMRT mobilised all engineering staff to conduct checks. We made some rectifications last night, but will continue to check on systems."

LTA CEO Chew Men Leong: "We have been working overnight to find out the root cause of the power trip. We had to systematically check trains, tracks and power systems. We will continue to do our checks and minimise such occurrences."

SMRT's director of trains, detailing a timeline of last night: "At 8.35pm our main consideration was that we didn't want passengers detrained on track. By 10.35pm, train service had resumed, but still had sporadic power trips."

DISRUPTION LIKELY CAUSED BY POWER SURGE

The LTA had earlier said�preliminary investigations indicated that a faulty train caused the power to trip.

�The power surge caused the protective relays across the entire North South East West Lines network to be activated, leading to a shut-down of power across the two lines,� it said in a statement.

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Seems white is the in colour...

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popcorn time!

I think this means it's nobody's fault, it is the power surge fault. Everything back to normal, everyone go back to work, there's nothing more to see here.

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faulty train means is smrt problem liao [laugh]

not lta [sly]

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I wonder.......u mean wif a $2M+/annual salary budget, they couldn't poach an super duper experienced London Tube, NY subway or Tokyo JR chief to run our little MRT network and had to rely on a paper general wif zeo experience to do the job?? The mind boggles.� �

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But such a person wouldn't be able to stand for erection would they?�

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My gut feel is that this guy is set for more than what he's doing now, but that he had to leave the army before any action could be taken...

I think this means it's nobody's fault, it is the power surge fault. Everything back to normal, everyone go back to work, there's nothing more to see here.

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It's the passengers fault lah. They can choose not to board but they chose to board -_-

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popcorn time!

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faulty train means is smrt problem liao

not lta

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haha yeah, 2 star general say it's the 3 star general fault.� Unique�situation�where poo�rolls uphill! [laugh]

Edited by Mason016, 08 July 2015 - 11:28 AM.

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it is time...

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Finally their swords can come in useful [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
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I wonder.......u mean wif a $2M+/annual salary budget, they couldn't poach an super duper experienced London Tube, NY subway or Tokyo JR chief to run our little MRT network and had to rely on a paper general wif zeo experience to do the job?? The mind boggles.� �

My guess is national security at stake?

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Finally their swords can come in useful
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not sharp enough lah.� at least give him a rusty sabre.

If power surge is just the fault, then we would see many other problems.

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1. Telco island-wide shutdown due to power surge.

2. Power supply island-wide shutdown due to power surge.

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But it doesn't happen bcuz redundancy and planning prevent such incident.....except SMRT.

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How nice if ERP goes offline due to power surge as well, but it doesn't happen either.

Edited by Kb27, 08 July 2015 - 11:36 AM.

Are they going to debate if it is track fault or train fault?

Track belongs to LTA and trains belong to SMRT?

Are they going to debate if it is track fault or train fault?

Track belongs to LTA and trains belong to SMRT?

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roadrunner quote already

http://www.mycarforu...here/?p=5535030

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is train fault

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roadrunner quote already

http://www.mycarforu...here/?p=5535030

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is train fault

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Haha...

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During his term as a transport ministar, he has pissed off both public transport users & car buyers.

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I can see how this is gonna translate into a MBT-style whipping boy at the next GE.�

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Time to bring the popcorn.�

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Personally, I feel quite sorry for them. They did everything right from young... ace exams, active in leadership positions, get prestigious scholarships, graduate with stellar results, land in a cushy public service job, then rise like rocket due to their scholar status, reach the top echelons of their profession. Then suddenly parachuted into various GLCs.

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Whoever unlucky and drew the short straw will end up in LTA or SMRT ... ha ha ha. It's an unwinnable position to be in.

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The lucky ones can squat in PMO, no portfolio, shake leg, make comments once in a while. Or other cushy ministries and companies, which one good arrh??

My guess is national security at stake?

Best national security measure is to hv the trains at standstill.......regularly?

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I had MyTransport app from LTA installed and it prompted me of the train breakdown at 7.45pm. Look at the screenshot I took and sent to my wife. Her normal bus journey of 10mins became 45mins.

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Thanks bro. I will try. :-)�

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Personally, I feel quite sorry for them. They did everything right from young... ace exams, active in leadership positions, get prestigious scholarships, graduate with stellar results, land in a cushy public service job, then rise like rocket due to their scholar status, reach the top echelons of their profession. Then suddenly parachuted into various GLCs.

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Whoever unlucky and drew the short straw will end up in LTA or SMRT ... ha ha ha. It's an unwinnable position to be in.

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The lucky ones can squat in PMO, no portfolio, shake leg, make comments once in a while. Or other cushy ministries and companies, which one good arrh??

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this one i agree

it is not tuck yew or desmond fault

they put in a lot of effort to correct the wrongs

i think the critical point is�when someone made the decision to place auntie saw in charge of smrt

Edited by Mustank, 08 July 2015 - 12:07 PM.

Best national security measure is to hv the trains at standstill.......regularly?

I agree with your suggestion but am guessing that this might be their consideration

Having said that, it does not mean that they cant get the experts in for a RCA

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this one i agree
it is not tuck yew or desmond fault
they put in a lot of effort to correct the wrongs
i think the critical point is�when someone made the decision to place auntie saw in charge of smrt

Can't fully absolve them as well. If the breakdown happened a few months or 1 year after saw's departure but right now they have had a couple of years to fix this problem.

At least come clean and tell us how long it will take for them to do everything right instead of just updating us about the sleeper replacement program and new trains.

My guess is national security at stake?

Speaking of national security, I wonder how long it will take our ns men to be recalled if the enemy targets our train system.

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this one i agree
it is not tuck yew or desmond fault
they put in a lot of effort to correct the wrongs
i think the critical point is�when someone made the decision to place auntie saw in charge of smrt

Maybe they are trying their best to correct the situation but their PR skills are seriously lacking

Full train service resumes; no suspension of North-South line at 11am�

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http://transport.asi...h.t9qq8Uys.dpuf

Can't fully absolve them as well. If the breakdown happened a few months or 1 year after saw's departure but right now they have had a couple of years to fix this problem.

At least come clean and tell us how long it will take for them to do everything right instead of just updating us about the sleeper replacement program and new trains.

Speaking of national security, I wonder how long it will take our ns men to be recalled if the enemy targets our train system.

Judging by their crisis management, if u take a step further to include security issues, to be honest, confidence level is rock bottom now

At least never mention cable ties . . . wheeew!

Can't fully absolve them as well. If the breakdown happened a few months or 1 year after saw's departure but right now they have had a couple of years to fix this problem.

At least come clean and tell us how long it will take for them to do everything right instead of just updating us about the sleeper replacement program and new trains.

Speaking of national security, I wonder how long it will take our ns men to be recalled if the enemy targets our train system.

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i think they cant give the public the�hard truth�report

however, i think there is a hard truth report which is not give to public

inside this report will have a complete list of all the crap left behind and what is needed to rectify them

now this report cannot be publciised because this is basically slapping pap right at the back of the head

my guess is that they probably wanted some significant downtime, money and manpower to do very extensive repairs and mainteance but didnt get those downtime they wanted

money probably isnt the key problem but downtime and experience competent manpower was the problem, my guess only

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so they wont come cream to us, mere mortals

they will come fully cream to the boss of bosses

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as long they no walk on track should be safe bah,

at worst is tio stuck in train and lao sai kui kor�

Ai lau sai must tng kor first, arm soh soh never mind [nod]

At least never mention cable ties . . . wheeew!

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well, with all the careless talk of ns is a privlege, you get up the train, want or dont want only, sue you if you break glass, they are now very careful [laugh]

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this one i agree
it is not tuck yew or desmond fault
they put in a lot of effort to correct the wrongs
i think the critical point is�when someone made the decision to place auntie saw in charge of smrt

No, the critical point was when they privatize our public transport

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well, with all the careless talk of ns is a privlege, you get up the train, want or dont want only, sue you if you break glass, they are now very careful

talk about break glass . . . how cum carriage�boh hammer and the sign "break glass in case of emergency"?

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You mean we have to carry our own hammers when we take MRT? [smash] � [smash]

talk about break glass . . . how cum carriage�boh hammer and the sign "break glass in case of emergency"?

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You mean we have to carry our own hammers when we take MRT? �

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Lee Ling Wei (SMRT Director Trains).
First� big test for him. Think Desmond took him in to fix the train reliability problems. Lee served 20 years in the air force and has an Aeronautical degree.

At SMRT he oversees train engineering and maintenance.

Full train service resumes; no suspension of North-South line at 11am�

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What about the passengers' confidence on the train service? Resume also? Or mlmlwml?

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I think it must be a culture shock for the smrt CEO when he was once the top military man, his every word is more or less a command and nobody dares question his authority ......to now a bullseye target board whereby ppl seem to know him in person...."Where's Desmond?".

Lee Ling Wei (SMRT Director Trains).
First� big test for him. Think Desmond took him in to fix the train reliability problems. Lee served 20 years in the air force and has an Aeronautical degree.

At SMRT he oversees train engineering and maintenance.

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to be honest, i think he is doing a good job

he is basically being paid to keo sai that others left behind

it will take time, lots of time

having said that it doesnt absolves pap of blame

Lee Ling Wei (SMRT Director Trains).
First� big test for him. Think Desmond took him in to fix the train reliability problems. Lee served 20 years in the air force and has an Aeronautical degree.

At SMRT he oversees train engineering and maintenance.

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If only trains can flies ....... :chilling:

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Aeronautical degree for rails .... :slow: �� just like kill chicken with a bull knive ... :a-fun:

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What about the passengers' confidence on the train service? Resume also? Or mlmlwml?

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I think it must be a culture shock for the smrt CEO when he was once the top military man, his every word is more or less a command and nobody dares question his authority ......to now a bullseye target board whereby ppl seem to know him in person...."Where's Desmond?".

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you think he didn't get warned by his boss before taking up the job?

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consumer confident is not even a consideration, do they have a choice? mlml LL still have to take. You put opposition in they can fix it overnight?�

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Who the . . . . . ? Where was he last night? [furious]

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you think he didn't get warned by his boss before taking up the job?

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consumer confident is not even a consideration, do they have a choice? mlml LL still have to take. You put opposition in they can fix it overnight?�

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who caused the problemn in the first place? opposition?

Agreed. Who created the problem should solve it.

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The 2 root causes are the open leg policy to immigration and lack of maintenance during Saw period.

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Should saw the woman head and put her in front of MRT train.

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Take a look biatch!

Can't fully absolve them as well. If the breakdown happened a few months or 1 year after saw's departure but right now they have had a couple of years to fix this problem.

At least come clean and tell us how long it will take for them to do everything right instead of just updating us about the sleeper replacement program and new trains.
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siang kar pager ???�

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Maybe they are trying their best to correct the situation but their PR skills are seriously lacking

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It might not be their fault directly but ultimately it's their responsibility to FIX IT.�

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Are you going to tell your boss something he knows or are you gonna fix the problem which is your baby now ? And being paid 2.5m at the same time ............�

it's a good thing ???? ........................ self snooked� :a-fun:

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SMRT Logic� [crazy]

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to be honest, i think he is doing a good job

he is basically being paid to keo sai that others left behind

it will take time, lots of time

having said that it doesnt absolves pap of blame

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Well said. But if we are willing to cut the chief train engineer slack, how come we whack Ah Kua, urm I mean Kuek, with no mercy leh? [smash]

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Maybe should also change brand name and I think Hong Kong�is�smarter�about it. MTR at least "My Tracks Reliable", unlike SMRT, "Sure Must Repair Tracks". :a-fun:

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[laugh]

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it's a good thing ???? ........................ self snooked�

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when wanna tell such a big lie, be prepared to be exposed in a few hours

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siang kar pager ???�

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It might not be their fault directly but ultimately it's their responsibility to FIX IT.�

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Are you going to tell your boss something he knows or are you gonna fix the problem which is your baby now ? And being paid 2.5m at the same time ............�

it's a good thing ???? ........................ self snooked�

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That's the thing isn't it? If you're going to tell everyone that everything is A-Okay because you've done such a good job, then you can't go back and blame the old ceo/mgmt once things go sour.

Mr Kuek added that SMRT is working on installing censors, and condition monitoring tools to monitor the situation and predict failures on trains and tracks.

"So that as and when in real time, things fail, we have triggers that allow us to take preventive actions based on predicted model and where that failure might be, this is part of the technology that we are working to put in place - both on the tracks as well as on the trains," he said.

"To bring higher rail reliability there will be road bumps," he added.

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Short of saying... SO PLEASE PREPARE AND EXPECT MORE BREAKDOWNS...

Edited by Carnoob, 08 July 2015 - 01:35 PM.

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Well said. But if we are willing to cut the chief train engineer slack, how come we whack Ah Kua, urm I mean Kuek, with no mercy leh?

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Maybe should also change brand name and I think Hong Kong�is�smarter�about it. MTR at least "My Tracks Reliable", unlike SMRT, "Sure Must Repair Tracks".

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actually, for me, i am prepared to give desmond and his engineers lots of slack

the are in the true sense, the shit clearers

people get the glory, the money and left the shit for these guys to clear

how fair is that?

i have alot of respect for people who clear shit, do actual jobs

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actually, for me, i am prepared to give desmond and his engineers lots of slack

the are in the true sense, the shit clearers

people get the glory, the money and left the shit for these guys to clear

how fair is that?

i have alot of respect for people who clear shit, do actual jobs

Ya, then he should stop talking about improved Rail Reliability since the WORST breakdown happens in his hands...

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siang kar pager ???�

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It might not be their fault directly but ultimately it's their responsibility to FIX IT.�

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Are you going to tell your boss something he knows or are you gonna fix the problem which is your baby now ? And being paid 2.5m at the same time ............�

it's a good thing ???? ........................ self snooked�

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the problem may be so deep rooted that it may take decades and a complete overhaul

but indeed self snooked [laugh]

Ya, then he should stop talking about improved Rail Reliability since the WORST breakdown happens in his hands...

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yes, indeed, he should not blow his trumpet

that one i agree

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Mr Kuek added that SMRT is working on installing censors, and condition monitoring tools to monitor the situation and predict failures on trains and tracks.

"So that as and when in real time, things fail, we have triggers that allow us to take preventive actions based on predicted model and where that failure might be, this is part of the technology that we are working to put in place - both on the tracks as well as on the trains," he said.

"To bring higher rail reliability there will be road bumps," he added.

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Short of saying... SO PLEASE PREPARE AND EXPECT MORE BREAKDOWNS...

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i think before the ge, somebody should take stock of all the different aspects of the pap govt to see where it has done well and where it has done badly

SMRT Logic�

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the logic jin satki [laugh]

Is it safe to take MRT?

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Wa...you are good.......hee hee....

Poor thing...wonder what the shareholders are thinking now...anyone monitoring the share price?

they have aeronautical engineer in charge now.... and as long as train is not aeroplane, it's conspermed�safe one. [laugh]

Is it safe to take MRT?

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this one i agree

it is not tuck yew or desmond fault

they put in a lot of effort to correct the wrongs

i think the critical point is�when someone made the decision to place auntie saw in charge of smrt

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For those working in public service, GLC (and maybe happens in some private companies too) will be aware, no one dare to question whatever mistakes done in the past that are causing problems in the present.

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Everyone is aware of the fact, but politically incorrect to talk about it. Bosses will wince, and suggest to live with the problem, but slowly start solving it.

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I know the conventional thinking is that discussing past mistakes made by others is seen as not productive and just complaining, but then again, those mistakes should be aired out to "shame" those who made the wrong turn - more so if they were senior people (then that makes it even more politically incorrect, [laugh] )

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It's the "Emperor's new clothes" syndrome...

Edited by Sosaria, 08 July 2015 - 01:50 PM.

Is it safe to take MRT?

Safe.

Until the next breakdown.

This major breakdown only means one thing.

Fare revision akan datang!!! [grin]

Edited by Toothiewabbit, 08 July 2015 - 01:52 PM.

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For those working in public service, GLC (and maybe happens in some private companies too) will be aware, no one dare to question whatever mistakes done in the past that are causing problems in the present.

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Everyone is aware of the fact, but politically incorrect to talk about it. Bosses will wince, and suggest to live with the problem, but slowly start solving it.

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I know the conventional thinking is that discussing past mistakes made by others is seen as not productive and just complaining, but then again, those mistakes should be aired out to "shame" those who made the wrong turn - more so if they were senior people (then that makes it even more politically incorrect, )

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It's the "Emperor's new clothes" syndrome...

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it all depends on how opern minded the biggest boss

most of them time, he will appear to be the most open minded

which .................[ownself fill in the blanks]

they have aeronautical engineer in charge now.... and as long as train is not aeroplane, it's conspermed�safe one.

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Seriously, what happen if there is a tunnel fire, flooding etc

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will the exhaust fans or water pumps working as designed?

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If only trains can flies .......

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Aeronautical degree for rails .... �� just like kill chicken with a bull knive ...

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Any good engineer can see what solutions must be implemented.

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Unfortunately, there are problems in the surrounding support infrastructure, admin, that will hobble the best engineers.

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Take for example, tender and purchasing... if I were in charge, I would want to be given free rein to select the BEST QUALITY components and delivery, and to be implemented QUICKLY by cutting down the paper-pushing processes. Choose, award, pay, start delivering, start work, and launch, in double-quick time.

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I know people will raise the spectre of possible corruption, etc. But that's how successful entrepreneurs / businessmen work... where got time to write long papers to justify, then push here and there for numerous signatures of approval, reject, start again, etc. Good engineers will also give up!

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actually, for me, i am prepared to give desmond and his engineers lots of slack

the are in the true sense, the shit clearers

people get the glory, the money and left the shit for these guys to clear

how fair is that?

i have alot of respect for people who clear shit, do actual jobs

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It's ok. he's well paid to clear shit.

The line staff of SMRT then give them a lot of respect.� [laugh]

just curious, how come until now ITE, Polys, Unis still no specialised courses in rail engineering?

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It's ok. he's well paid to clear shit.

The line staff of SMRT then give them a lot of respect.�

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the engineers have been neglected for a long time

many experienced ones left

morale is all time low

they need a leader to bring them up, to give them confidence

i say give desmond time and money to do whatever he has to do

his pay is between his boss and him

but desmond also shouldnt count the eggs before they hatch

seriously, i don't pity those higher echelons at SMRT and LTA, they deserved to be spat on and cursed at because they have been in their heavenly castles most of the time.
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Looking at the history of breakdowns, the once major breakdown happened 2 years plus back at NSL, then they should in the first place engaged some experience railway engineers from Japan/Germany (the best ones in the world at their own expenses since they making profit year in and year out) to survey and advise what should be changed or taken up to improve the reliability moving ahead
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but it looks like not much was done until this mother of all breakdowns happen 2 years later. most of the time when breakdowns happen, i only hear them giving lip services... Talk, talk and talk. Typical of a govt body... with that "dont be so gan chiong spider until shit hits the fan" attitude.
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anyhow, i really pity the commuters.. after a hard day at work an then faced this situation... my gf told me not drive after my current car is due for scrapped... hell no... i will drive a lorry if I have to. why? because nothing will change for the better.. 2 years ago we thought that was only a one off major breakdown. 2 years later now, we just had a mother of all breakdowns and I reckon it will have a grandmama in future.

Edited by Jayy25, 08 July 2015 - 02:11 PM.

just curious, how come until now ITE, Polys, Unis still no specialised courses in rail engineering?

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i got this from straits times

answers your question�alot, aint it [laugh]

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the engineers have been neglected for a long time

many experienced ones left

morale is all time low

they need a leader to bring them up, to give them confidence

i say give desmond time and money to do whatever he has to do

his pay is between his boss and him

but desmond also shouldnt count the eggs before they hatch

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Well I've nothing against him.

Hopefully after 5 years we'll see sustained improvement.

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the engineers have been neglected for a long time

many experienced ones left

morale is all time low

they need a leader to bring them up, to give them confidence

i say give desmond time and money to do whatever he has to do

his pay is between his boss and him

but desmond also shouldnt count the eggs before they hatch

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You are right to say that his pay is between his boss and him but then what we pay for public transport is between his boss and us also.... Not to forget the millions of taxpayer dollars used to subsidize SMRT (a private company!).

Maybe half of the eggs are rotten, never hatch never know.

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the engineers have been neglected for a long time
many experienced ones left
morale is all time low
they need a leader to bring them up, to give them confidence
i say give desmond time and money to do whatever he has to do
his pay is between his boss and him
but desmond also shouldnt count the eggs before they hatch

just curious, how come until now ITE, Polys, Unis still no specialised courses in rail engineering?

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I believe there is one launched quite recently... in a local univ. But not full degree, just specialisation of an engineering degree, or maybe it's general in nature, e.g. mass public transport, that kind of thing.

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ITE also has course on train/rail technical work, definitely I've seen a mock MRT carriage at college west.

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Bottom-line, rail engineering is not "sexy" and I think the response will be even worse than standard flavour elec/mech engineering course. Job opportunity also very limited in singapore; only SMRT is the major train operator. If a person has problem with the company, where else can he or she work?

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Not "sexy" courses... all the educational institutions will 'siam' far far away. Student enrollment and therefore, course popularity, is a KPI.

In their brochures, prospectus....., they can always put people sitting in the comfort of aircon control rooms or $2m paycheck....

[laugh]

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i got this from straits times

answers your question�alot, aint it

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i think we should transfer those maintaining the ERP system to run the SMRT.� Our ERP system has very good track record, never break down.�

best suggestion so far. Interchange the maintenance team = Job Rotation.

i think we should transfer those maintaining the ERP system to run the SMRT.� Our ERP system has very good track record, never break down.�

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the engineers have been neglected for a long time
many experienced ones left
morale is all time low
they need a leader to bring them up, to give them confidence
i say give desmond time and money to do whatever he has to do
his pay is between his boss and him
but desmond also shouldnt count the eggs before they hatch

 

the rot started when Saw took up the CEO office.
from an insider, pay was pathetic without much recognition for their efforts.
the pioneer batch all left without proper hand over and with grievances.

anyway... all these breakdowns are in the making since years backs, just that it finally snapped like a pre-timed time bomb....
I only can prayed that any heavenly beings (the spiritual ones, not those wearing white hor) will bless the commuters without much breakdowns moving ahead....

Edited by Jayy25, 08 July 2015 - 02:19 PM.

they have aeronautical engineer in charge now.... and as long as train is not aeroplane, it's conspermed�safe one.

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no. The train will aeroplane you by not turning up at the stations.

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workers,technicians: wtf everyday got shit job, why don't they fix the problem?

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engineers to technicians/workers : we already told management we need blah..blah ..blah

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management to engineers: you do what you can, we already inform top management

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top management to management: go and find out what's wrong and report back.

 

 

the rot started when Saw took up the CEO office.
from an insider, pay was pathetic without much recognition for their efforts.
the pioneer batch all left without proper hand over and with grievances.

anyway... all these breakdowns are in the making since years backs, just that it finally snapped like a pre-timed time bomb....
I only can prayed that any heavenly beings (the spiritual ones, not those wearing white hor) will bless the commuters without much breakdowns moving ahead....

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core competencies ah core competencies

when the head shifts his attention to other distractions and loses focus

it is all gone

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all these neglect in light of its once glorious past is indeed heart breaking

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Edited by Mustank, 08 July 2015 - 02:29 PM.

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this one i agree

it is not tuck yew or desmond fault

they put in a lot of effort to correct the wrongs

i think the critical point is�when someone made the decision to place auntie saw in charge of smrt

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i agree that the mechanical faults are due to long term neglect and they are rectifying.

But what i cannot understand that given both were ex generals is that the Plan B for bus bridging/alternative transportation and dissemination of information to the public is still so piss poor. so many "dry" runs of previous faults and they still cannot get it right? to me this is unforgivable.

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i agree that the mechanical faults are due to long term neglect and they are rectifying.

But what i cannot understand that given both were ex generals is that the Plan B for bus bridging/alternative transportation and dissemination of information to the public is still so piss poor. so many "dry" runs of previous faults and they still cannot get it right? to me this is unforgivable.

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the mrt has been the backbone of transport in SG for many years

credit to the late Mr Ong, his teams, the old MRT corp, the engineers and many other workers

�

along these many years, we come to rely on it for transport, lean on it,

and it becomes the backbone, our main transport solution, our solution for 80%? 85%? of the population

the reliance increased even more when we increase our population

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then when the backbone crashes, we didnt have any other viable alternative to take that kind of load

thats the hard truth

Edited by Mustank, 08 July 2015 - 02:35 PM.

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Mr Kuek added that SMRT is working on installing censors, and condition monitoring tools to monitor the situation and predict failures on trains and tracks.

"So that as and when in real time, things fail, we have triggers that allow us to take preventive actions based on predicted model and where that failure might be, this is part of the technology that we are working to put in place - both on the tracks as well as on the trains," he said.

"To bring higher rail reliability there will be road bumps," he added.

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Short of saying... SO PLEASE PREPARE AND EXPECT MORE BREAKDOWNS...

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Thanks a lot...

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now there's soy milk all over my keyboard..

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Who wrote this

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hahahahahahahahahahhahahhhaahahahaahhahaha

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Seriously this is the funniest thing that I've read this month (and no - not the part you've highlighted)�

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I wonder if this is like those tv shows - "from the mouths of children"�

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he probably took a bunch of these pics then can bring out to wayang in case of breakdown�

Life size cardboard with stand behind?

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Any good engineer can see what solutions must be implemented.

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Unfortunately, there are problems in the surrounding support infrastructure, admin, that will hobble the best engineers.

�

Take for example, tender and purchasing... if I were in charge, I would want to be given free rein to select the BEST QUALITY components and delivery, and to be implemented QUICKLY by cutting down the paper-pushing processes. Choose, award, pay, start delivering, start work, and launch, in double-quick time.

�

I know people will raise the spectre of possible corruption, etc. But that's how successful entrepreneurs / businessmen work... where got time to write long papers to justify, then push here and there for numerous signatures of approval, reject, start again, etc. Good engineers will also give up!

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This is a public company, cannot suka suka spend money, Erode shareholder value hor ...................�

�

Is that Ah Yeo beside the People's President ?�

The late OTC has a dignified face, almost can see a halo above his head.

�

The MPs nowadays, sometimes I just want to punch them in the face.

�

This is a public company, cannot suka suka spend money, Erode shareholder value hor ...................�

�

�

Is that Ah Yeo beside the People's President ?�

Sure looks like him.

Shall we *ahem* take trip *ahem* down memory lane Bros?

http://www.tnp.sg/ne...ain-ride-better

Shall we *ahem* take trip *ahem* down memory lane Bros?

http://www.tnp.sg/ne...ain-ride-better

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To be fair, he only came onboard ard Oct 2012?

�

Don't forget all those years when it was Singapore Mall Rental Tenants instead of Singapore Mass Rapid Transit, not a lot of focus was put into the rail division.

�

It's like driving your car for 270,000km on that factory filled engine oil and then selling it to the next owner without replacing any consumable parts.

�

That sucker who took over has to troubleshoot like hell and probably need more annual leave than the owner of a VW Roc owner.

�

The SMRT position is like a poisoned chalice.

Edited by Sabian, 08 July 2015 - 03:53 PM.

Last time I travel on MRT I notice that they still have plastic ties as a safety measure to hold the 'pandrol clips' from flying if they come loose.

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Apart from my belief that this flying never happen due to locking device between pandrol clip and baseplate and the fact it never happen with similar pandrol clips elsewhere afaik, have the maintenance guys devised a programme for replacing these plastic ties with new plastic ties???

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To be fair, he only came onboard ard Oct 2012?
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Don't forget all those years when it was Singapore Mall Rental Tenants instead of Singapore Mass Rapid Transit, not a lot of focus was put into the rail division.
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It's like driving your car for 270,000km on that factory filled engine oil and then selling it to the next owner without replacing any consumable parts.
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That sucker who took over has to troubleshoot like hell and probably need more annual leave than the owner of a VW Roc owner.
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The SMRT position is like a poisoned chalice.

Total agreed.

Just find the recent article quite funny now.

The late OTC has a dignified face, almost can see a halo above his head.
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The MPs nowadays, sometimes I just want to punch them in the face.

Total agreed.

Just find the recent article quite funny now.

�

I also LOL when I clicked on the TNP article.�

It may not be the new comers fault that the train broke down, though 2 years is a long time in the corporate world. Crisis management is still apparently lacking, which has nothing to do with Saw's legacy.

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Somebody mentioned inheriting an old car. If you inherit a 10-year old car, if you see smoke you will still know you need to the stop the car in a safe place, not obstruct traffic, call a taxi for your passengers if needed, then call the workshop. Don't tell me you blame the previous owner if you see smoke and still continue to drive until the coolant dry up, or let the passengers wait inside while the mechanic look into your engine.

Shall we *ahem* take trip *ahem* down memory lane Bros?

http://www.tnp.sg/ne...ain-ride-better

Do a good job no need always shamelessly advertise loudly to people one. See lah.. Now kenna jinx liao.

But seems like Lui really got jiao gor Kuek's backside, say no need to do COI wor.

COI for latest MRT disruption 'unnecessary': Lui Tuck Yew
http://www.todayonli...ry-lui-tuck-yew

It may not be the new comers fault that the train broke down, though 2 years is a long time in the corporate world. Crisis management is still apparently lacking, which has nothing to do with Saw's legacy.

�

Somebody mentioned inheriting an old car. If you inherit a 10-year old car, if you see smoke you will still know you need to the stop the car in a safe place, not obstruct traffic, call a taxi for your passengers if needed, then call the workshop. Don't tell me you blame the previous owner if you see smoke and still continue to drive until the coolant dry up, or let the passengers wait inside while the mechanic look into your engine.

�

2 years long time? That is why everyone is looking for quick fixes...

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Depending on the magnitude of the crap he inherited, 2 years is not exactly long.

�

But feel free to bash away.

You need more time to understand what is crisis management ?

�

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2 years long time? That is why everyone is looking for quick fixes...

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Depending on the magnitude of the crap he inherited, 2 years is not exactly long.

�

But feel free to bash away.

�

�

2 years long time? That is why everyone is looking for quick fixes...

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Depending on the magnitude of the crap he inherited, 2 years is not exactly long.

�

But feel free to bash away.

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I donno about quick fixes but I sure do know a thing or two about quickies [laugh]

you are surprisingly forgiving of quek...hehe

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I do agree that he inherited the problem but�his credentials and recent pay rise together with this mammoth breakdown turned public sentiments against him considerably.

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it is probably much more difficult to overhaul the mrt tracks and trains as compared to a vehicle given that you can't tell the public not to take mrt for even 1 day while a car owner will accept going without the car for days or even weeks to do a comprehensive overhaul.

�

2 years long time? That is why everyone is looking for quick fixes...

�

Depending on the magnitude of the crap he inherited, 2 years is not exactly long.

�

But feel free to bash away.

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"Everything works, whether its water, electricity, gas, telephone, telexes, it just has to work. If it doesn't work, I want to know why, and if I am not satisfied, and I often was not, the chief goes, and I have to find another chief. Firing the chief is very simple"

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1984 Rally speech - the late LKY

just curious, how come until now ITE, Polys, Unis still no specialised courses in rail engineering?

Excellent point

"Everything works, whether its water, electricity, gas, telephone, telexes, it just has to work. If it doesn't work, I want to know why, and if I am not satisfied, and I often was not, the chief goes, and I have to find another chief. Firing the chief is very simple"
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1984 Rally speech - the late LKY

U can post this to LSL FB :)

...

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workers,technicians: wtf everyday got shit job, why don't they fix the problem?

�

engineers to technicians/workers : we already told management we need blah..blah ..blah

�

management to engineers: you do what you can, we already inform top management

�

top management to management: go and find out what's wrong and report back.

�

Ha ha ha... sound like you have worked in GLC or CS or PS before, or still do now? [laugh]

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The above that you have stated is S.O.P.

"Everything works, whether its water, electricity, gas, telephone, telexes, it just has to work. If it doesn't work, I want to know why, and if I am not satisfied, and I often was not, the chief goes, and I have to find another chief. Firing the chief is very simple"

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1984 Rally speech - the late LKY

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sounds like someone gonna do the needful soon

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Ha ha ha... sound like you have worked in GLC or CS or PS before, or still do now?

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The above that you have stated is S.O.P.

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No need.

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Serve NS can already.

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