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OMG, endless issue happened on SMRT train! Now even have 2 maintenance staff died on the track?

OMG, endless issue happened on SMRT train! Now even have 2 maintenance staff died on the track?

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r u surprised? the general ceo �when was the last time he appeared to address any issues

Edited by Duckduck, 22 March 2016 - 01:40 PM.

confirm plus chop, honest mistake,

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lets move on,� any 1 kenna also some small foreman kenna also,

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those on top, still 99.9999 % safe. -_-

sad news, really freak accident, how can something like this happened? Why would there be people on track when there are moving train?

confirm plus chop, honest mistake,

lets move on, any 1 kenna also some small foreman kenna also,

those on top, still 99.9999 % safe.

Everything also don't know, you start to point finger.

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hahhaa jin sart kee ! u envy his metals ?�

hahhaa jin sart kee ! u envy his metals ?

General election worthy

hahhaa jin sart kee ! u envy his metals ?�

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Really envious. Just imagine the number of conflicts he must have been involved with to get so many nice medals.

General election worthy

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dont even have big boobs to squeeze .....� :wacko:

sad news, really freak accident, how can something like this happened? Why would there be people on track when there are moving train?

I thought SMRT very kaisi on safety precaution de? Even on raining weather, the train can move like�a snail, and train can always jam break in the middle of the track, due to some unforeseen situation ahead. But how come such thing can happened? Is the driver sleeping on the wheel?

Really envious. Just imagine the number of conflicts he must have been involved with to get so many nice medals.

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Smart General dont get involved one ..... they stay away from conflicts but 1st to showface when got ho kangtao and collect merits (leading to the metals) .�

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Reminded me of the show�???�

General election worthy

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Don't sabo him leh.

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His current salary higher than LHL leh. General election means he has to take a pay cut� :a-t2622:

confirm plus chop, honest mistake,

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lets move on,� any 1 kenna also some small foreman kenna also,

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those on top, still 99.9999 % safe.

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Just like many past cases ... (e.g.�hepatitis C ) . Someone in the middle will become the escape goats .

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honest mistake that no one can predict technicians will be on the track during daytime.� :pissed-off:

confirm plus chop, honest mistake,

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lets move on,� any 1 kenna also some small foreman kenna also,

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those on top, still 99.9999 % safe.

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yup im sure the general will not take any responsibility n say the 2 dead guys broke rules. Easiest person to blame is a dead person.

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Also, i hope d families take smrt to court for this.

yup im sure the general will not take any responsibility n say the 2 dead guys broke rules. Easiest person to blame is a dead person.

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Also, i hope d families take smrt to court for this.

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IMO, it really does depend why the 2 were there. If this is indeed SOP then SMRT is to blame.

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But if the 2 were somehow negligent and lazy, can they really blame SMRT?

Compare aljunied town council matters with the SGH and SMRT fatalities...which ones deserve more air time in parliament...pls answer me Vivian....shanmugam....teo chee hean...hui ge..

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stop wasting parliament bandwidth on boliao issues and get serious on the critical ones pls...

Is it due to electrocution? Don't think the report states anything

local or FW?

IMO, it really does depend why the 2 were there. If this is indeed SOP then SMRT is to blame.

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But if the 2 were somehow negligent and lazy, can they really blame SMRT?

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there case will be this: "why were they sent to the track during daytime train operation hours when there was no train breakdowns?"

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if a track fault was detected, should all trains on that track be stopped?

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Edited by Duckduck, 22 March 2016 - 02:11 PM.

This one ownself kill ownself also not enough.

condolences to their families.

i just feel the mrt (like many other old assets in sg), were not designed for the new population increase. Well you can widen roads, but what can you do about our tracks and trains? When that happens, either you have increased breakdown, or you do much more maintenance to avoid them. ie run to stay at same spot. Lots of stress on maintenance teams. Under these conditions mistakes are sure to happen as procedures get continuously updated.

Heard rumors its electrical�shock.� [smallcry]

Compare aljunied town council matters with the SGH and SMRT fatalities...which ones deserve more air time in parliament...pls answer me Vivian....shanmugam....teo chee hean...hui ge..

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stop wasting parliament bandwidth on boliao issues and get serious on the critical ones pls...

Cannot like this compare, cause anything happened under the care of the white, they will still treat it as 'small matter' and would not blow up the matter. But if same thing happened under the care of ''others'', then they would�be condemn for life and make sure they will pay for it. Lol.

Compare aljunied town council matters with the SGH and SMRT fatalities...which ones deserve more air time in parliament...pls answer me Vivian....shanmugam....teo chee hean...hui ge..

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stop wasting parliament bandwidth on boliao issues and get serious on the critical ones pls...

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which topic is preferred :

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hamptum kaki ... or

hamptum others�

Heard rumors its electrical�shock.�

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meaning its � a safety issue�

condolences to their families.

i just feel the mrt (like many other old assets in sg), were not designed for the new population increase. Well you can widen roads, but what can you do about our tracks and trains? When that happens, either you have increased breakdown, or you do much more maintenance to avoid them. ie run to stay at same spot. Lots of stress on maintenance teams. Under these conditions mistakes are sure to happen as procedures get continuously updated.

SMRT would still tell you, don't worry and they are working on it. Guess they are confidence enough to solve all the current issues that they are facing. New population increase, 100% no problem. Lol.

Just saw this

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Just saw this

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RIP.

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We could do without people passing snide remarks above.

damn sad

Just saw this

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Our dear singa brothers...RIP..

local or FW?

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Both locals. Condolences to their family. [smallcry]

Both locals. Condolences to their family.

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really is damn

somemore is two newbie, just join this year only [:(]

really is damn

somemore is two newbie, just join this year only

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from the description, smrt is liable. sue them gaogao so that the general doesnt millions bonus again

imagine your son go work for mrt, then you receive this call

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really is damn sad

from the description, smrt is liable. sue them gaogao so that the general doesnt millions bonus again

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yeah, good thing mrt is ltd, not govt

local or FW?

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why? would that make their parents any less sad or your condolences any less sincere?

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really bro...� [confused]

imagine your son go work for mrt, then you receive this call

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really is damn sad

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exactly bro

why? would that make their parents any less sad or your condolences any less sincere?

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really bro...�

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exactly bro

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bro, most unfortunately yet most truthfully, yes [:(]

RIP to them.

So young... ...

wonder how passengers came down .......... �

bro, most unfortunately yet most truthfully, yes

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Yes. Google monkeysphere to understand more.

Gentle Reminder......... [gossip]

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what are they doing while the train is in operation??

Sad and shocked that this could happen. RIP to the deceased.

SMRT really screwed up.

from the description, smrt is liable. sue them gaogao so that the general doesnt millions bonus again

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Fat chance of denting that fat paycheck and bonus hor.

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Will cover under group insurance and maybe even hear LJ words like pay them X times the workman compensation etc etc.

Oh shit!

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Just learned this pcs of news now! [shocked]

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RIP!

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Looks like SMRT is trying to fix small fault before it becomes major fault even during operation hour with train zooming past their staff to prevent more down time, Dont� know if this is their usual practice or cause under great pressure to keep the system running by sending man out at this hour.

Oh shit!

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Just learned this pcs of news now!

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RIP!

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thats why I commented Part 2 is coming ......�

RIP.

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Imagine this happening under the Central Catchment, with the nearest exit points kilometres in either direction.

RIP to the deceased

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Wow lau eh..

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This SMRT very problematic!

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Train breakdown...

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now....

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sigh!

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thats why I commented Part 2 is coming ......�

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Fat chance of denting that fat paycheck and bonus hor.

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Will cover under group insurance and maybe even hear LJ words like pay them X times the workman compensation etc etc.

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as usual the general is nowhere to be seen or heard. His own men died in operations also no sound... imagine a real war... i can see him doing the exact same thing...

Let's see how desmond gonna siam this..

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as usual the general is nowhere to be seen or heard. His own men died in operations also no sound... imagine a real war... i can see him doing the exact same thing...

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brings to memories of BOB's 1st Lieutenant Norman Dike...

Let's see how desmond gonna siam this..

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as usual nonchalant just like smrt breakdown like nobody biz.continue getting millions each year.

the one died not his sons anyway,why would he give a f?

most likely he will make guest appearance at the funeral with the local mp and wayang photos from the ST.

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RIP to the 2 smrt workers nonetheless.

Edited by KumarB, 22 March 2016 - 03:33 PM.

Wow lau eh..

This SMRT very problematic!

Train breakdown...

now....

sigh!

U in train now ?

Long time nvr take train liao...

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why?

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U in train now ?

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Long time nvr take train liao...

why?

Bec u buy their share ma .... thought u will support them hahahhahaa

SMRT share price fell to $1.56 [shakehead]

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Bec u buy their share ma .... thought u will support them hahahhahaa

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Let not politicalize this issue, lives were loss... :a-rip: �and it has absolutely nothing to do with 30% or 70%, if you get what I mean. :mellow:

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I am however very concern with the series of incidents (including breakdown) we had in the recent years. Imagine if this is a signal related fault as reported earlier, it could have resulted in a collision between trains, and much more casualties (or even fatalities) expected. Many people communte daily using trains, and the thought of another accident send a shiver down my spine... ...

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The relevant authorities and ministries ought to stand up and share what actually happened,�what have been done, and give all commuters the assurance that the system is still safe, that is the least I am expecting.

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Let pray for the victim and their family. Also, let not forget about the other 3 that escape from the incident, as well as the poor train driver, that probably witness the whole event in split seconds.

The East-West Line driverless?

The East-West Line driverless?

i think cannot brake in time. why trains are not design with similar features like in car.. they prompt when detected danger. some car even brake for you.�

�We have confirmed that permission was given to access the track. Our initial findings show that before the accident happened, the team was moving in a single file on the walkway beside the track, on the way to the location of the signalling equipment,� Lee said in the post.

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wah, haven't even reach the problem point. Someone seriously farked up his/her job sia .....�

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Both just joined less than 3 months ....... may they RIP

Edited by Othello, 22 March 2016 - 03:55 PM.

Who gave the green light for these men to go down track to do checks?

Kok!

The East-West Line driverless?

EW Line not driverless like NEL. The poor driver...

Rip to the two young Singaporean abangs. Still in prime of their life but gone too soon.
Rip to the two young Singaporean abangs. Still in prime of their life but gone too soon.

RIP to the deceased and condolences to the family members.

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these are the ground people that keep the systems working 24/7 and most of the time, they are paid the lowest in an big organisation...�

SMRT share price fell to $1.56

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It only dropped after the incident today

SMRT share price fell to $1.56

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It only dropped after the incident today

And finally complacency had reached the peak for SMRT... 2 lives lost� :a-rip: � Again I preached... WHEN WILL WE EVER LEARN?!

Minister of transport hari kiri

Who gave the green light for these men to go down track to do checks?

Kok!

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Media report mentioned the signals officer's brother said the officer was very stressed. Post-incident, I suppose.

Minister of transport hari kiri

+ Desmond

Media report mentioned the signals officer's brother said the officer was very stressed. Post-incident, I suppose.

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That signals officer is just a witness right? I don't think he got anything to do with SMRT.

Fell 20 cents since the accident!

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Knn this counter bui tan lui..

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Early last yr went up to $1.80, I greedy wanna wait till $2!

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It only dropped after the incident today

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Media report mentioned the signals officer's brother said the officer was very stressed. Post-incident, I suppose.

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The signal officer switch the wrong track, thus the train went towards the men??? If like that, then he can prepare to polish iron bar liao. [sweatdrop]

I am saddened by this unfortunate incident. May the 2 deceased rest in peace!

sigh.. indeed saddening that this had happened.

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RIP�

Fell 20 cents since the accident!

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Knn this counter bui tan lui..

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Early last yr went up to $1.80, I greedy wanna wait till $2!

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I thot is 2 cents? :huh:

+ Desmond

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please donate 3 years of bonus to the deceased family members before hari kiri....

Lol.. Yes bro :XD:

2 sen.

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typo.

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This incident dai chi toa tiao...

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I believe its share�price�will further decline!

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I thot is 2 cents?

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Edited by Aaronlkl, 22 March 2016 - 04:53 PM.

The signal officer switch the wrong track, thus the train went towards the men??? If like that, then he can prepare to polish iron bar liao.

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yeah, I also suspect so

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machiam live firing, butt party needs to repair target board

all cease firing

butt party proceed

bang bang bang

knnnn!!! cease fire!!! cease fire!!! who misfire!!!!

consperm DB

Lol.. Yes bro

2 sen.

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relag bro, this counter the mountain very big, no fear [:p] � [smash]

Still cant believe and understand why they allow maintenance technician to go down to track when the train is still in full operation? And why the train driver is not informed that someone is out on the track, and should slow down or watch out? Did the report mentioned how they got killed? By train or electrocuted?

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Really sad that both just joined SMRT in Jan this year and still On-the-job training, and such thing happened!

The signal officer switch the wrong track, thus the train went towards the men??? If like that, then he can prepare to polish iron bar liao.

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really awful if like that... but this is on a single track approaching the station... not a junction... there's only one track that the train could have been right...�

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there's a video of them retrieving the bodies and walking back towards the station in this CNA post.

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http://www.channelne...in/2625352.html

Edited by ins1dious, 22 March 2016 - 05:10 PM.

My van broke down yesterday and i took the train and saw a poster of abang, assisant engineer proudly working the night shift for you to have a enjoyable ride.

And then today, sad news of 2 young abangs killed.

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I think SMRT is riddled with problems starting with the management.

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They have never taken responsibilties so far, esp the CEO.

really awful if like that... but this is on a single track approaching the station... not a junction... there's only one track that the train could have been right...�

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Nope. Pasir Ris station is an interchange, it is end of the line. They can switch track there.

Media report mentioned the signals officer's brother said the officer was very stressed. Post-incident, I suppose.

Poor thing also lah, he should have sounded out the monkeys at the top of the tree and let them decide. Or let the maintenance team look into the fault during the off period and not when trains were running.

My van broke down yesterday and i took the train and saw a poster of abang, assisant engineer proudly working the night shift for you to have a enjoyable ride.

And then today, sad news of 2 young abangs killed.

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I think SMRT is riddled with problems starting with the management.

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They have never taken responsibilties so far, esp the CEO.

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Hur??? Didnt Miss Saw quit to take responsibility of that major breakdown?

The signal officer switch the wrong track, thus the train went towards the men??? If like that, then he can prepare to polish iron bar liao.

Yam gong lor why like dat?

Hur??? Didnt Miss Saw quit to take responsibility of that major breakdown?

So the only time when�SMRT Ceo take responsibility is to quit and move on to another better company?! And all the issues and problems still remain unsolved?! Lol.

wah time to buy 4D! ghost appeared

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relag bro, this counter the mountain very big, no fear �

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this counter dividend only 2% ........... waste time�

I think may be due to lack of communication!

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My van broke down yesterday and i took the train and saw a poster of abang, assisant engineer proudly working the night shift for you to have a enjoyable ride.

And then today, sad news of 2 young abangs killed.

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I think SMRT is riddled with problems starting with the management.

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They have never taken responsibilties so far, esp the CEO.

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the CEO very responsible de ........... when collect bonus he ensure its fat fat one�

RIP.

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wah time to buy 4D! ghost appeared

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Just ask him in the face if it's the reporter last day.

DO YOU THINK YOU DESERVED THE 2.3M PAYCHECK?

Just ask him in the face if it's the reporter last day.

DO YOU THINK YOU DESERVED THE 2.3M PAYCHECK?

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Of course.

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B grade leh.

Honestly the management is helpless. The culture, working style, norms etc. have all been built-in for a long time. To upset everything and re-model the company is very risky to do at a time when they are tasked to expand the network and improve the reliability. The management can only hang on for the ride.

CEO general will find scapegoat.

Our damm SMRT is a disgrace

In the good old days, the CEO would have committed Hara kiri

Honestly the management is helpless. The culture, working style, norms etc. have all been built-in for a long time. To upset everything and re-model the company is very risky to do at a time when they are tasked to expand the network and improve the reliability. The management can only hang on for the ride.

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Um, who is asking them to expand the network?

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Can't handle the job then leave it to comfort del gro lor.

Honestly the management is helpless. The culture, working style, norms etc. have all been built-in for a long time. To upset everything and re-model the company is very risky to do at a time when they are tasked to expand the network and improve the reliability. The management can only hang on for the ride.

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It is expected of a CEO to turn around a failing company.

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Otherwise, you don't need a CEO. It's better to have an empty chair and save the money.

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In other words, he's not doing his job.

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Why will a company pay you millions of dollars in salary to "hang on" ?

Just ask him in the face if it's the reporter last day.

DO YOU THINK YOU DESERVED THE 2.3M PAYCHECK?

So is he the one asking around in �the forum about the second hand budget: $300,000 car??

He can buy it with 2 months salary , with yet so much change let for regular monthly detailing and cosmetics; ��

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RIP to the deceased workers�

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Edited by BanCoe, 22 March 2016 - 06:26 PM.

Just ask him in the face if it's the reporter last day.

DO YOU THINK YOU DESERVED THE 2.3M PAYCHECK?

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I Sappok you ...... you ask , i stand behind�

My van broke down yesterday and i took the train and saw a poster of abang, assisant engineer proudly working the night shift for you to have a enjoyable ride.
And then today, sad news of 2 young abangs killed.

I think SMRT is riddled with problems starting with the management.

They have never taken responsibilties so far, esp the CEO.

Has any SAF soldiers resign for the NS boy's death?

CEO general will find scapegoat.

Our damm SMRT is a disgrace

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not only them ..... others also . many many good examples already in the past few years� :grin:

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why they no do this

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Honestly the management is helpless. The culture, working style, norms etc. have all been built-in for a long time. To upset everything and re-model the company is very risky to do at a time when they are tasked to expand the network and improve the reliability. The management can only hang on for the ride.

Seems likes it is a routine check on one of the signal point. More than 10 led by a supervisor walking in a single file on the walkway beside the track towards oncoming train.

Only this 2 got killed, think it's more of an accident.

Until the facts of the case are clarified, I do not think it is fair or proper to be baying for the resignation of Ministers, CEOs or anyone else.

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why they no do this

You need to translate it to english first.

CCB SMRT

http://www.straitsti...sor-and-walking

No train service at Joo Koon to Boon Lay due to smlj traction.� [:|]

Sinkinpo boleh!

2nd failure in a day on the same line.

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Now no train service between Joo Koon and Boon Lay in both directions due to traction power fault.

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Until the facts of the case are clarified, I do not think it is fair or proper to be baying for the resignation of Ministers, CEOs or anyone else.

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If the gov wants to keep harping about "world class" and "1st world" or "World's first" crap, then when mistakes happen, they have to take equal responsibilities. Right now, I only see credit they take, lower ranks take the rap for mistakes made.�

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Incidents happen under their watch as CEO, ministers ... they can step down, there are many competent people out there that can take over.

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If really no competent people left, might as well reclassify as 3rd world country.

"The train was being driven automatically and was travelling at 60kmh coming into Pasir Ris MRT station when it hit the two men, he said."

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This is really hazardous work man, with only 0.5m of walkway with those rocks laying everywhere and train flying in at 60km/h (even with staff on the track?), a slip is very possible. Also walking in a single file, if the 1st man is tall those behind will have their vision blocked by him. Dont tell me 1 supervisor led 14 OJT men on the track to train them ah :blink: ��

This is damn sad news. It must be horrific when the event unfolded. May their departed souls rest in peace, and may the families find peace and comfort.

I also heard CCL got slight delayed due to a fault earlier and when the train comes it closes its door on commuter before the door closing announcement was made. �

yeah ... no matter who's right who's wrong ... two lives are lost ... it's very sad

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This is damn sad news. It must be horrific when the event unfolded. May their departed souls rest in peace, and may the families find peace and comfort.

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Edited by Wt_know, 22 March 2016 - 07:19 PM.

My question to Desmond fxxk kuek! Have you ever tried personally walking on the track where train coming at 60km/h?

Hope you read this post. Train pulling into station, slowing down already generating such big draft. Never hear of the word domino effect. Walking on single file some more. It really show what kind of brain they are harbouring in their head. The more I read this news the more angry I get.

Edited by Kopites, 22 March 2016 - 07:25 PM.

Until the facts of the case are clarified, I do not think it is fair or proper to be baying for the resignation of Ministers, CEOs or anyone else.

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Totally agreed

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Let's refrain from commenting too much until they explain the whole thing... and do spare a thought for the families of the deceased ...

I think may be due to lack of communication!

Station control would have to be informed if any person is down checking the track, so when trains coming in will be asked to slow down. Someone sleeping.

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