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KIA K3 Owners check-in! part 27

  • 10 January 2016 - 09:02 PM
    Simplecar

    Foks, i was using Shell and at half tank, pumped Caltex (first time for this car). The computer shows bad l/km figures. at low RPM, the instantaneous consumption figures are bad (>20km/l). When I just pumped, it was 7.3l/km. after 1km, when parked, it went up to 11km/l. At idle it crept up to 13! Whilst waiting it continued to climb to 15!

    Anyone experienced this before?


  • 10 January 2016 - 09:16 PM
    ricleosg

    That was standard in the previous sx setting. With sunroof and hid lamps right?

    Nope. Not standard. But part of the suite of accesssories that can be selected. Most ppl.will of course choose the eurostyle as it is of higher percieved value.

    The standard for sports sx is sunroof hid and skirting

    Foks, i was using Shell and at half tank, pumped Caltex (first time for this car). The computer shows bad l/km figures. at low RPM, the instantaneous consumption figures are bad (>20km/l). When I just pumped, it was 7.3l/km. after 1km, when parked, it went up to 11km/l. At idle it crept up to 13! Whilst waiting it continued to climb to 15!

    Anyone experienced this before?

    When idling the engine is still running. And your milage is stagnant. Your km/L will steadily grow worse as you idle.
  • 10 January 2016 - 09:37 PM
    germ0227

    Touch screen is an upgrade option to eurostyle gps with reverse camera

    yea i was refering to the eurostyle gps. did anyone manage to get that for ex? what equipment did you guys get for ex?

    committed today too ... asked for additional Paint Protection, Magnetic Window shield and 3D mat ontop of the given Thinkware and Solar Film.

    Wanted the Eurostyle multimedia but did not like it eventually so never asked. Figure can do better one after get the car.

    wow you got so many equipment? you ordered ex or sx?
  • 10 January 2016 - 09:53 PM
    Simplecar

    Nope. Not standard. But part of the suite of accesssories that can be selected. Most ppl.will of course choose the eurostyle as it is of higher percieved value.

    The standard for sports sx is sunroof hid and skirting
    When idling the engine is still running. And your milage is stagnant. Your km/L will steadily grow worse as you idle.

    i know what you mean. When compared to the Shell 95, this change is too sudden. As one who monitors my consumption figures regularly, this change seems too soon (13l/km to 14l/km in one minute of idling - was 7.3l/km only 1km away at petrol station)

    Perhaps the AF ratio may be adjusting.

    I remember when i changed to K&N filter, there were some adjustments (felt it and the figures went a bit haywire) before settling to a new normal.


  • 10 January 2016 - 10:16 PM
    weikiREE

    yea i was refering to the eurostyle gps. did anyone manage to get that for ex? what equipment did you guys get for ex?
    wow you got so many equipment? you ordered ex or sx?


    I went for the SX. Did not ask for the eurostyle upgrade today ... but was initially quoted discount instead of freebie on 1st visit.
  • 10 January 2016 - 10:50 PM
    kianewbie

    That was standard in the previous sx setting. With sunroof and hid lamps right?

    Previous SX is sport version? with full body kit too?


  • 10 January 2016 - 11:18 PM
    Tanguanpoh

    Previous SX is sport version? with full body kit too?

    nope C&C was selling two version of SX.

    one is SX and another one is SX Sports.

    SX Sports come with full bodykit.


  • 10 January 2016 - 11:29 PM
    ricleosg

    nope C&C was selling two version of SX.

    one is SX and another one is SX Sports.

    SX Sports come with full bodykit.

    Between around july 2015 to dec 2015 they only sold sx sports and there was no regular sx hehe. Those buyers got the best deal. Pay for sx get sports sx.
  • 11 January 2016 - 12:20 AM
    Alvantan

    hi guys,
    just went to showroom today. was served by gary, any comments about him? he seems like a nice guy though. anyway what does the new sx(less equpment from previous sx models) have that the ex does not.
    and what does the ex have then also?

    avoid my lousy SE - Jovis Tan!
    either you can search thru this forum for a highly recommended SE or I can PM you...
    some SE rather not be named in forum as they may get questioned why they throw in so many freebies.

    I went for the SX. Did not ask for the eurostyle upgrade today ... but was initially quoted discount instead of freebie on 1st visit.

    get the eurostyle throw in if you can.. some bro got the default HU in box.. you can change back if you decide to..
    not easy to get a compatible touchscreen HU..
    I'm speaking from 2 months of searching experience...
  • 11 January 2016 - 07:12 AM
    RiduanAbdullah

    hi guys,
    just went to showroom today. was served by gary, any comments about him? he seems like a nice guy though. anyway what does the new sx(less equpment from previous sx models) have that the ex does not.
    and what does the ex have then also?

    that guy is Gray Quek , is my SE, he is helpfuly guy, you shall go for him, u wanna his hp no, tell him my name, that the sx sport order at singapore expo


  • 11 January 2016 - 07:20 AM
    germ0227

    that guy is Gray Quek , is my SE, he is helpfuly guy, you shall go for him, u wanna his hp no, tell him my name, that the sx sport order at singapore expo

    yea bro helpful but i feel he abit inflexible. i suggested to trade my solar film and thinkware for the eurostyle. but ask me to top up the difference of $800. anyway you can help me convince him?
  • 11 January 2016 - 07:50 AM
    RiduanAbdullah

    yea bro helpful but i feel he abit inflexible. i suggested to trade my solar film and thinkware for the eurostyle. but ask me to top up the difference of $800. anyway you can help me convince him?

    u whattapp him say that riduan ask me to find you to buy new car,see what he say, if not i will whattapp him. what i know that eurostyle �and thinkware �must top up $ 2,000/-, , see what i can help you


    Edited by RiduanAbdullah, 11 January 2016 - 07:56 AM.

  • 11 January 2016 - 08:18 AM
    weikiREE

    avoid my lousy SE - Jovis Tan!
    either you can search thru this forum for a highly recommended SE or I can PM you...
    some SE rather not be named in forum as they may get questioned why they throw in so many freebies.
    get the eurostyle throw in if you can.. some bro got the default HU in box.. you can change back if you decide to..
    not easy to get a compatible touchscreen HU..
    I'm speaking from 2 months of searching experience...


    Thanks for the advice bro, much appreciated. Not sure if can get it added as freebie if ask now ... at most get discount for the item. When you say unable to find compatible HU - is it unable to fit or unable to link to controls at steering wheel?
  • 11 January 2016 - 08:26 AM
    weikiREE

    Between around july 2015 to dec 2015 they only sold sx sports and there was no regular sx hehe. Those buyers got the best deal. Pay for sx get sports sx.


    wow! Didn't know that. How much was SX price back then? Any idea?

    Anyone got reccomendation where to fix bodykit? Hahaha - hvnt even bid for COE but very excited and looking fwd to my K3. Hope no need wait all the way to 6th bid to secure.
  • 11 January 2016 - 08:30 AM
    RiduanAbdullah

    wow! Didn't know that. How much was SX price back then? Any idea?

    Anyone got reccomendation where to fix bodykit? Hahaha - hvnt even bid for COE but very excited and looking fwd to my K3. Hope no need wait all the way to 6th bid to secure.

    can fix at jb, cheaper, i can bring you to jb


  • 11 January 2016 - 09:24 AM
    weikiREE

    can fix at jb, cheaper, i can bring you to jb


    Thanks - but JB not keen la ... dnt even drive my 9yr old lancer in anymore.
  • 11 January 2016 - 09:54 AM
    RiduanAbdullah

    Thanks - but JB not keen la ... dnt even drive my 9yr old lancer in anymore.

    we just go that to fix bodykit, the come back to singapore once completed fix bodykit

    In singapore fix very exp


    yea bro helpful but i feel he abit inflexible. i suggested to trade my solar film and thinkware for the eurostyle. but ask me to top up the difference of $800. anyway you can help me convince him?

    hi germ0227, did u whattapp him? what he say, but remember that when i buy that car is 105,999, so he give me discount, but now is 91,999, i dont think he will give more discount, whattapp him, see what he say


  • 11 January 2016 - 11:02 AM
    pra
    Anybody here can help me to choose between cquartz finest and ceramic pro paint protection? Which is better and long lasting.
    Anybody here can help me to choose between cquartz finest and ceramic pro paint protection? Which is better and long lasting.
  • 11 January 2016 - 11:57 AM
    RiduanAbdullah

    Anybody here can help me to choose between cquartz finest and ceramic pro paint protection? Which is better and long lasting.
    Anybody here can help me to choose between cquartz finest and ceramic pro paint protection? Which is better and long lasting.

    what i know that��ceramic pro paint protection can last long for 5 year, but very exp

    About�cquartz finest can last for 6 month


  • 11 January 2016 - 12:04 PM
    ricleosg

    what i know that ceramic pro paint protection can last long for 5 year, but very exp
    About cquartz finest can last for 6 month

    Mmmmm c quartz finest only 6 mths you sure?
  • 11 January 2016 - 12:05 PM
    RiduanAbdullah

    Mmmmm c quartz finest only 6 mths you sure?

    i ask before, they say so


    Edited by RiduanAbdullah, 11 January 2016 - 12:15 PM.

  • 11 January 2016 - 12:53 PM
    Alvantan

    Thanks for the advice bro, much appreciated. Not sure if can get it added as freebie if ask now ... at most get discount for the item. When you say unable to find compatible HU - is it unable to fit or unable to link to controls at steering wheel?

    Connectors and link to steering wheels control.
  • 11 January 2016 - 01:17 PM
    germ0227

    we just go that to fix bodykit, the come back to singapore once completed fix bodykit
    In singapore fix very exp

    hi germ0227, did u whattapp him? what he say, but remember that when i buy that car is 105,999, so he give me discount, but now is 91,999, i dont think he will give more discount, whattapp him, see what he say

    hi bro, i already signed for the deposit actually. but i was really hoping he could give me the eurostyle instead of the solar film and thinkware. he said only could be done if i top up $800 because its 1.2k trade for 2k item. but i hope he can allow because i giving up 2 item for 1.
  • 11 January 2016 - 01:29 PM
    KirkGoh

    avoid my lousy SE - Jovis Tan!
    either you can search thru this forum for a highly recommended SE or I can PM you...
    some SE rather not be named in forum as they may get questioned why they throw in so many freebies....


    Bro, I've PM u. Thanks
  • 11 January 2016 - 01:43 PM
    Kiat626

    Foks, i was using Shell and at half tank, pumped Caltex (first time for this car). The computer shows bad l/km figures. at low RPM, the instantaneous consumption figures are bad (>20km/l). When I just pumped, it was 7.3l/km. after 1km, when parked, it went up to 11km/l. At idle it crept up to 13! Whilst waiting it continued to climb to 15!

    Anyone experienced this before?

    The average fuel economy may have reset when you pump.

    http://www.kifomanua...economy-66.html


  • 11 January 2016 - 11:56 PM
    Dark_flan

    Had not seen the new SX compared to the one I have which is the sport edition bought under SG50 promotion. Is it really downsized alot in equipment other than the bodykit and sun roof. Seen the brochure but it is nowhere attractive compared.


  • 12 January 2016 - 07:16 AM
    Runforyourlife
    Ya no hid, 2 air bags. Etc. body kit also gone.
  • 12 January 2016 - 07:36 AM
    germ0227
    any bros know if its worth it to trade in my free solar film and thinkware and top up $800 for the eurostyle? it seems that solar film and thinkware can buy outside but eurostyle cant, issit true?
  • 12 January 2016 - 08:31 AM
    Runforyourlife

    any bros know if its worth it to trade in my free solar film and thinkware and top up $800 for the eurostyle? it seems that solar film and thinkware can buy outside but eurostyle cant, issit true?

    Ask your se can or not first. Ask here even if can se say cannot also like that
  • 12 January 2016 - 09:05 AM
    germ0227

    Ask your se can or not first. Ask here even if can se say cannot also like that

    yea its can, im asking if its worth it. is it true that eurostyle only can install from kia?
  • 12 January 2016 - 09:11 AM
    weikiREE

    any bros know if its worth it to trade in my free solar film and thinkware and top up $800 for the eurostyle? it seems that solar film and thinkware can buy outside but eurostyle cant, issit true?

    My simplistic view on this ... all items can be bought at better value and quality elsewhere.

    However as 1 bro mentioned - not easy to find compatible headunit.

    But for me i would not do the trade as personally feel 2k for the eurostyle is too high. I'd rather go for the solar and thinkware. Again this is personal feeling and choice.

    Hope it helps.
  • 12 January 2016 - 09:55 AM
    germ0227

    My simplistic view on this ... all items can be bought at better value and quality elsewhere.

    However as 1 bro mentioned - not easy to find compatible headunit.

    But for me i would not do the trade as personally feel 2k for the eurostyle is too high. I'd rather go for the solar and thinkware. Again this is personal feeling and choice.

    Hope it helps.

    yea i also feel that way. but my fear is i cant find a compatible headunit. and this eurostyle would be a $800 top up ah, so technically in not paying the full $2000. but of course if i can find the same eurostyle unit outside i'll confirm get it. but the thing is idk where to find or if it even exists.
  • 12 January 2016 - 11:47 AM
    ChongHowKeat

    yea i also feel that way. but my fear is i cant find a compatible headunit. and this eurostyle would be a $800 top up ah, so technically in not paying the full $2000. but of course if i can find the same eurostyle unit outside i'll confirm get it. but the thing is idk where to find or if it even exists.

    I got my eurostyle HU when I buy my K3 SX (non sport) at Nov motor show. During that time, on top of my basic freebies, solar film and 1 year free servicing,�I negotiated with my SE, to throw in the Eurostyle HU and bodykit�to close the deal, else I will walk off. SE went to speak to his boss, and he agreed and I placed my order.

    I opt out their Thinkware dashcam, cos if you do some research and read it's review, this cam not that good especially when night recording. Bought Blackvue Full HD cam outside myself.

    The Eurostyle HU is really a good to have item in this car. Media player, GPS built-in, bigger reverse camera screen, DVD etc. Found them really useful.

    it's really how you negotiate with your SE for win win situation for both of you.


  • 12 January 2016 - 12:08 PM
    weikiREE

    yea i also feel that way. but my fear is i cant find a compatible headunit. and this eurostyle would be a $800 top up ah, so technically in not paying the full $2000. but of course if i can find the same eurostyle unit outside i'll confirm get it. but the thing is idk where to find or if it even exists.

    Bro ... ask uncle google. He can tell you where to find. Just need to find out if the pricing good or not.
  • 12 January 2016 - 09:30 PM
    germ0227

    I got my eurostyle HU when I buy my K3 SX (non sport) at Nov motor show. During that time, on top of my basic freebies, solar film and 1 year free servicing, I negotiated with my SE, to throw in the Eurostyle HU and bodykit to close the deal, else I will walk off. SE went to speak to his boss, and he agreed and I placed my order.

    I opt out their Thinkware dashcam, cos if you do some research and read it's review, this cam not that good especially when night recording. Bought Blackvue Full HD cam outside myself.

    The Eurostyle HU is really a good to have item in this car. Media player, GPS built-in, bigger reverse camera screen, DVD etc. Found them really useful.

    it's really how you negotiate with your SE for win win situation for both of you.

    bro how much your bought your blackvue for? does it record even when engine off?
  • 12 January 2016 - 10:06 PM
    Lurpsexx

    Bro ... ask uncle google. He can tell you where to find. Just need to find out if the pricing good or not.

    The installer and supplier of this China made Eurostyle HU is in Kaki Bukit... can't rem the name of the co liao.. you can ask your SE nicely and he may tell u.....


  • 12 January 2016 - 10:52 PM
    ChongHowKeat

    bro how much your bought your blackvue for? does it record even when engine off?

    I got mine from Qoo10, DR550-1CH, Korea set and 1 version behind current model DR650. Cheaper than local. Both model almost identical specs even though newer.

    DR550-1CH + power magic = $280. Local workshop installation $30. In order to record when engine off, you need power magic.

    You can try iRoad. From Korea also, built in power saver, no need power magic.


  • 12 January 2016 - 11:40 PM
    weikiREE

    I got my eurostyle HU when I buy my K3 SX (non sport) at Nov motor show. During that time, on top of my basic freebies, solar film and 1 year free servicing, I negotiated with my SE, to throw in the Eurostyle HU and bodykit to close the deal, else I will walk off. SE went to speak to his boss, and he agreed and I placed my order.

    I opt out their Thinkware dashcam, cos if you do some research and read it's review, this cam not that good especially when night recording. Bought Blackvue Full HD cam outside myself.

    The Eurostyle HU is really a good to have item in this car. Media player, GPS built-in, bigger reverse camera screen, DVD etc. Found them really useful.

    it's really how you negotiate with your SE for win win situation for both of you.

    Also informed by my colleague the thinkware cannot mk it. Thinking to ask SE to gv me bodykit instead. Any idea how much C&C price their bodykit at?
  • 12 January 2016 - 11:59 PM
    Blublak

    Also informed by my colleague the thinkware cannot mk it. Thinking to ask SE to gv me bodykit instead. Any idea how much C&C price their bodykit at?

    last tyme I checked, 2k plus.... [furious]


  • 13 January 2016 - 12:17 AM
    weikiREE

    last tyme I checked, 2k plus.... [furious]


    lol ... super marked up! Will be mission impossible if wanna trade the thinkware to bodykit.
  • 13 January 2016 - 12:21 AM
    Blublak

    lol ... super marked up! Will be mission impossible if wanna trade the thinkware to bodykit.

    u should have bought earlier. got SX sports. bodykit standard leh with sunroof....good deal at that tyme... [thumbsup]

    nvm. bodykit can source aftermarket. much cheaper... [;)]


  • 13 January 2016 - 12:26 AM
    kianewbie

    Also informed by my colleague the thinkware cannot mk it. Thinking to ask SE to gv me bodykit instead. Any idea how much C&C price their bodykit at?

    Asked when I bought my new sx. It's about 800$.
  • 13 January 2016 - 09:03 AM
    danzo

    Hi all, booked the kia forte last week when the coe was 57000 , but today the coe dropped to 45000 ..will it go further down ?

    What was your coe rebate level?? You would have got some money back if you had secured your coe last round...
    If coe go up next rounds, those who bot now may have to topup instead of rebate...

    Edited by danzo, 13 January 2016 - 09:05 AM.

  • 13 January 2016 - 09:35 AM
    13177

    u should have bought earlier. got SX sports. bodykit standard leh with sunroof....good deal at that tyme... [thumbsup]

    nvm. bodykit can source aftermarket. much cheaper... [;)]

    How come K3 keeps changing their spec? Some have bodykit and sunroof, some don't have?


  • 13 January 2016 - 10:58 AM
    Runforyourlife

    How come K3 keeps changing their spec? Some have bodykit and sunroof, some don't have?

    cos COE high that time and to maintain competition must drop some stuff to compete. :S

    that's the sian part. now dunno got what no have what, even broshure not updated.


  • 13 January 2016 - 05:03 PM
    Blublak

    How come K3 keeps changing their spec? Some have bodykit and sunroof, some don't have?

    to my understanding bring down OMV lower so can price the k3 competively mah...those buying betta check and confirm with SE actual specs cos not updated in brochures... :a-confused:


    Edited by Blublak, 13 January 2016 - 05:07 PM.

  • 13 January 2016 - 05:12 PM
    Runforyourlife

    Also check the radio if still having problem haha


  • 13 January 2016 - 09:42 PM
    Asylum
    Just went to the showroom yest with a friend. Alot of diff now for SX model. No HID. No sunroof. The cluster display is now monochrome which is used to be colour. Form 6 air bags to 2 air bags.

    They removed the old SX model and replace with this is due to the OMV where the old SX model will hit 20k. Once it exceed 20k only 50% loan. Now below 20k can loan 60%.

    Tats what i understand from the SE form alexandra yest.
  • 13 January 2016 - 09:48 PM
    ricleosg

    Just went to the showroom yest with a friend. Alot of diff now for SX model. No HID. No sunroof. The cluster display is now monochrome which is used to be colour. Form 6 air bags to 2 air bags.

    They removed the old SX model and replace with this is due to the OMV where the old SX model will hit 20k. Once it exceed 20k only 50% loan. Now below 20k can loan 60%.

    Tats what i understand from the SE form alexandra yest.

    actually just excuses.... cut cost to increase margins....


  • 13 January 2016 - 09:55 PM
    Runforyourlife

    Just went to the showroom yest with a friend. Alot of diff now for SX model. No HID. No sunroof. The cluster display is now monochrome which is used to be colour. Form 6 air bags to 2 air bags.

    They removed the old SX model and replace with this is due to the OMV where the old SX model will hit 20k. Once it exceed 20k only 50% loan. Now below 20k can loan 60%.

    Tats what i understand from the SE form alexandra yest.

    Excuses. Last time omv < 20k
  • 13 January 2016 - 09:59 PM
    Ivan_06

    Just went to the showroom yest with a friend. Alot of diff now for SX model. No HID. No sunroof. The cluster display is now monochrome which is used to be colour. Form 6 air bags to 2 air bags.

    They removed the old SX model and replace with this is due to the OMV where the old SX model will hit 20k. Once it exceed 20k only 50% loan. Now below 20k can loan 60%.

    Tats what i understand from the SE form alexandra yest.

    Like that might as well buy Elantra S, cheaper
  • 13 January 2016 - 10:02 PM
    ricleosg

    Like that might as well buy Elantra S, cheaper

    yeap... removing the product differentiating features den k3 not as value for money liao


  • 13 January 2016 - 10:06 PM
    13177

    Just went to the showroom yest with a friend. Alot of diff now for SX model. No HID. No sunroof. The cluster display is now monochrome which is used to be colour. Form 6 air bags to 2 air bags.

    They removed the old SX model and replace with this is due to the OMV where the old SX model will hit 20k. Once it exceed 20k only 50% loan. Now below 20k can loan 60%.

    Tats what i understand from the SE form alexandra yest.

    The how come few months back they can offered so many things on the SX model? If SX model now don't have so many things, wouldn't it become like the EX model liao?


  • 13 January 2016 - 10:07 PM
    Runforyourlife
    Just remove more on ex.
  • 13 January 2016 - 11:58 PM
    Ahchan

    Wonder what is the current OMV value for the new batch of SX ?

    My old SX sport was slightly above $18k...


  • 14 January 2016 - 07:46 AM
    Asylum
    They still call it SX cos it still have keyless... air cool seats... 17". Which now i think makes i alot less attractive. With these features only there are some other choices else where.

    Somehow i feel that now SE very reluctant to throw in some fr�ebis... only ask for an additional of th sunshade.. say until if give sunshade he will not make a single dime lah... this lah... that lah... sibeh jia lat...
  • 14 January 2016 - 07:58 AM
    kianewbie

    Wonder what is the current OMV value for the new batch of SX ?
    My old SX sport was slightly above $18k...

    Slightly above $17k.

    They still call it SX cos it still have keyless... air cool seats... 17". Which now i think makes i alot less attractive. With these features only there are some other choices else where.

    Somehow i feel that now SE very reluctant to throw in some frèebis... only ask for an additional of th sunshade.. say until if give sunshade he will not make a single dime lah... this lah... that lah... sibeh jia lat...

    Heard from SE that usually end of the year easiler to request for freebies because they need to sell in order to save their job.

    Dunno how true...
  • 14 January 2016 - 09:32 AM
    weikiREE

    Asked when I bought my new sx. It's about 800$.

    Was quoted $1k fr bodykit this morning ... not attractive ... did u finally do it $800?

    Edited by weikiREE, 14 January 2016 - 09:32 AM.

  • 14 January 2016 - 11:19 AM
    kianewbie

    Was quoted $1k fr bodykit this morning ... not attractive ... did u finally do it $800?

    Never do it. I dun find the front body kit nice as it will cover the holes below the headlight as I felt that it looks better without the bodykits. I only want the spoiler on the boot and chrome tail and those are not part of the body kit. You got sx right?
  • 14 January 2016 - 11:32 AM
    Forte3737

    Like that might as well buy Elantra S, cheaper

    All sold out. left the elite model
  • 14 January 2016 - 02:04 PM
    weikiREE

    Never do it. I dun find the front body kit nice as it will cover the holes below the headlight as I felt that it looks better without the bodykits. I only want the spoiler on the boot and chrome tail and those are not part of the body kit. You got sx right?

    Yes , i booked the SX ... bt my personal feel with bodykit like nicer lol ... heading over to showroom again tmr nite to look see look see again before deciding.

    May eventually do just a lip at the boot like 1 of the bro here. Undecided still.

    Edited by weikiREE, 14 January 2016 - 02:06 PM.

  • 14 January 2016 - 02:26 PM
    ricleosg

    Never do it. I dun find the front body kit nice as it will cover the holes below the headlight as I felt that it looks better without the bodykits. I only want the spoiler on the boot and chrome tail and those are not part of the body kit. You got sx right?

    sounds like we have the same taste. shared these photos previously. I haven't taken a shot with the chrome boot tail after i installed it though.

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  • 14 January 2016 - 03:00 PM
    weikiREE

    sounds like we have the same taste. shared these photos previously. I haven't taken a shot with the chrome boot tail after i installed it though.

    20818689478_c562a68053_h.jpg

    19838618020_4630f40659_b.jpg

    Was reffering to u in my last post ... nice bro!
    I getting White also. Do upload pic with chrome boot tail soon :)
  • 14 January 2016 - 04:04 PM
    kianewbie

    Yes , i booked the SX ... bt my personal feel with bodykit like nicer lol ... heading over to showroom again tmr nite to look see look see again before deciding.

    May eventually do just a lip at the boot like 1 of the bro here. Undecided still.

    Asked your SE to take some photos and send you. The chrome tail and spoiler came from factory with the sx version.
  • 14 January 2016 - 04:15 PM
    ricleosg

    Asked your SE to take some photos and send you. The chrome tail and spoiler came from factory with the sx version.

    Spoiler only sx sports. Regular sx no spoiler unless you managed to negotiate for add on.

    Chrome tail kia nvr offered ah...
  • 14 January 2016 - 04:28 PM
    kianewbie

    Spoiler only sx sports. Regular sx no spoiler unless you managed to negotiate for add on.

    Chrome tail kia nvr offered ah...

    For the new sx version, both came from factory.
  • 14 January 2016 - 04:31 PM
    ricleosg

    For the new sx version, both came from factory.

    New cut features sx now got boot spoiler? So nice ah cnc hehe.

    U got pics of the spoiler and chrome boot lip to share?
  • 14 January 2016 - 05:28 PM
    weikiREE

    Asked your SE to take some photos and send you. The chrome tail and spoiler came from factory with the sx version.

    Oh?? Did not realise that. Will check on it ... Thanks for the info !!!

    The SX in showroom was with bodykit and the 1st thing SE told me was ignore the bodykit as it is not part of package. So naturally assumed the spoiler will also not come with.
  • 14 January 2016 - 05:41 PM
    kianewbie

    New cut features sx now got boot spoiler? So nice ah cnc hehe.

    U got pics of the spoiler and chrome boot lip to share?

    What i meant is the tip of the exhaust pipe.�


    The spoiler is something like this.


    Oh?? Did not realise that. Will check on it ... Thanks for the info !!!

    The SX in showroom was with bodykit and the 1st thing SE told me was ignore the bodykit as it is not part of package. So naturally assumed the spoiler will also not come with.

    Got the same thinking as you too until i asked my SE then he told me the spoiler came from factory.

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  • 14 January 2016 - 05:43 PM
    ricleosg

    What i meant is the tip of the exhaust pipe.

    The spoiler is something like this.




    Got the same thinking as you too until i asked my SE then he told me the spoiler came from factory.

    Bro that exhaust tip is standard for all sx n sx sport. That's not boot lid chrome. Thats exhaust.

    That silver pic is sports kit leh.

    but good la if the SE promise you spoiler. make sure it is written in the agreement in black and white hehe.


    Edited by ricleosg, 14 January 2016 - 05:48 PM.

  • 14 January 2016 - 05:45 PM
    kianewbie

    My purchases from Taobao.

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    ring protector.jpg

    TB2WNEacVXXXXbmXpXXXXXXXXXX_!!2534261313.jpg


  • 14 January 2016 - 05:56 PM
    kianewbie

    Bro that exhaust tip is standard for all sx n sx sport. That's not boot lid chrome. Thats exhaust.

    That silver pic is sports kit leh.

    ok pai seh so is the exhaust pipe.

    the chrome exhaust, ex do not have it.

    the spoiler is the same as the sliver one.�

    IMG-20151214-WA0002.jpg


    Bro that exhaust tip is standard for all sx n sx sport. That's not boot lid chrome. Thats exhaust.

    That silver pic is sports kit leh.

    but good la if the SE promise you spoiler. make sure it is written in the agreement in black and white hehe.

    I got my car last week. will take a photo later...


  • 14 January 2016 - 05:56 PM
    ricleosg

    hehe all these you bought i got too... except the interior door protector


  • 14 January 2016 - 09:09 PM
    Jaskin

    the current SX don't have HID?�

    wow... that's terok


  • 14 January 2016 - 09:48 PM
    niftynicholas

    the current SX don't have HID?�

    wow... that's terok

    Ya don't have, absolutely terok.


  • 14 January 2016 - 11:06 PM
    flashbang

    the current SX don't have HID?�

    wow... that's terok

    It's not really a dealbreaker IMO... not much use for headlights in SG as the roads are all very bright.


  • 14 January 2016 - 11:42 PM
    Runforyourlife

    It's not really a dealbreaker IMO... not much use for headlights in SG as the roads are all very bright.


    It is for me. Halogen is 80 bucks per pop lol
  • 15 January 2016 - 12:35 AM
    Jaskin

    Its just a bummer la... and they're also not changing the damn brochure or website... no head no tail... don't know what included or not anymore


  • 15 January 2016 - 07:56 AM
    Runforyourlife
    And no news on new k3, as if they are riding on the old popular sx sport and just doing nothing since there's auto demand.
  • 15 January 2016 - 10:19 AM
    Alvantan

    don't top up for bodykit.. not worth it..�

    especially cnc do a lousy job, with all the gaps inbetween...

    agree with the ricleosg and the bros above, bootlip with a chrome tail is good enuff..

    K3 default front is already nice without bodykit bumper.

    the side skirts are kinda irritating, when you alight the car, your leg gets in contact with them... and when it's wet ... pants ganna...

    the "back" bodykit.. nothing fanciful at all...

    given a choice, I should have exchange it for eurostyle..


  • 15 January 2016 - 11:17 AM
    Drunkenchivas

    Please share the links.

    excited owner of metal stream. Supposed to come mid mar or apr due no more colour gotta indent from Korea which complete manufacture in feb16

    thanks.


  • 15 January 2016 - 12:48 PM
    Asylum
    Guys... quick question.
    When the fuel tank indicator lights up. The fuel tank left how many liter??? Anyone knows??? Try searching manual. Seems like dun have.
  • 15 January 2016 - 01:16 PM
    hairywolf

    Hi Guys,

    Is K3 rim spec: PCD 5 x 114.3? Tks.�


  • 15 January 2016 - 01:20 PM
    Simplecar

    Guys... quick question.
    When the fuel tank indicator lights up. The fuel tank left how many liter??? Anyone knows??? Try searching manual. Seems like dun have.

    From my experience, the indicator lights up when I have about 80km left in the tank

    I reckon there will about 7l left in the tank.


  • 15 January 2016 - 07:08 PM
    Hashirama

    Hi Guys,

    Is K3 rim spec: PCD 5 x 114.3? Tks.

    Yes correct.. change mine..
  • 15 January 2016 - 07:52 PM
    weikiREE

    don't top up for bodykit.. not worth it..
    especially cnc do a lousy job, with all the gaps inbetween...

    agree with the ricleosg and the bros above, bootlip with a chrome tail is good enuff..

    K3 default front is already nice without bodykit bumper.
    the side skirts are kinda irritating, when you alight the car, your leg gets in contact with them... and when it's wet ... pants ganna...
    the "back" bodykit.. nothing fanciful at all...

    given a choice, I should have exchange it for eurostyle..

    Jst got back from showroom ... totally agree with your views now bro. The kit not worth the additional quoted $1k and my legs did touch the side kit alighting the car ... since the SX comes standard with boot lip (confirmed) it is sufficient.

    Thanks !!!
  • 15 January 2016 - 09:22 PM
    hairywolf

    Yes correct.. change mine..

    Tks bro
  • 15 January 2016 - 09:31 PM
    hairywolf
    Booked a SX last Saturday, rebate 45k. Looking at the crowd for the past few days, guess I need to wait for few bids to secure coe
  • 15 January 2016 - 10:15 PM
    weikiREE

    Booked a SX last Saturday, rebate 45k. Looking at the crowd for the past few days, guess I need to wait for few bids to secure coe


    We on same boat ... bt i hope can secure on 1st bid ... can't wait sia hahaha
  • 15 January 2016 - 10:32 PM
    hairywolf

    We on same boat ... bt i hope can secure on 1st bid ... can't wait sia hahaha

    You opt for guaranteed package? This group of buyers will get first, my current ride expires on apr,so I don't mind to get on the 5th or last bid...
  • 15 January 2016 - 11:44 PM
    weikiREE

    You opt for guaranteed package? This group of buyers will get first, my current ride expires on apr,so I don't mind to get on the 5th or last bid...

    As i know both platinum package (45k rebate) and standard package (38k rebate) are non guaranteed ... i took the platinum package.
  • 16 January 2016 - 11:10 AM
    danzo

    As i know both platinum package (45k rebate) and standard package (38k rebate) are non guaranteed ... i took the platinum package.

    How much for Plat vs Std package?
  • 16 January 2016 - 11:46 AM
    Alfredha

    Hi Kia owners [wave]

    I just did a test drive yesterday 15th.�January 2016�of a Forte K3 SX�and immediately, with my nephews approval, paid a deposit for a Metal color�K3 SX. (platinum Package)

    Also had a very good experience with the sales staff a certain Mr. 'E'

    Really looking forward to get my new car, in the next 2 to 3 months.


  • 16 January 2016 - 11:47 AM
    weikiREE

    How much for Plat vs Std package?

    last weeks prices were - $94999 (platinum) vs $91999 (standard)
  • 16 January 2016 - 11:54 AM
    Blackyv

    Hi Kia owners [wave]

    I just did a test drive yesterday 15th. January 2016 of a Forte K3 SX and immediately, with my nephews approval, paid a deposit for a Metal color K3 SX. (platinum Package)

    Also had a very good experience with the sales staff a certain Mr. 'E'

    Really looking forward to get my new car, in the next 2 to 3 months.


    Have to wait 2-3mths? Damn .. Looks like any car model also need to wait few mths except french... Hehe...
  • 16 January 2016 - 11:55 AM
    kianewbie

    Please share the links.

    excited owner of metal stream. Supposed to come mid mar or apr due no more colour gotta indent from Korea which complete manufacture in feb16

    thanks.

    Here are the links...

    1)�https://detail.tmall...ain&toSite=main

    2)�https://detail.tmall...575&toSite=main

    3) https://detail.tmall...213&toSite=main

    4)�https://detail.tmall...893&toSite=main (this is not very nice after i had received the items)

    Congratz on getting K3.

    Enjoyed my ride for almost 2 weeks.�


  • 16 January 2016 - 12:02 PM
    kianewbie

    Got this from ebay.�

    20160116_115754.jpg


  • 16 January 2016 - 12:08 PM
    kianewbie

    Hi Kia owners [wave]

    I just did a test drive yesterday 15th.�January 2016�of a Forte K3 SX�and immediately, with my nephews approval, paid a deposit for a Metal color�K3 SX. (platinum Package)

    Also had a very good experience with the sales staff a certain Mr. 'E'

    Really looking forward to get my new car, in the next 2 to 3 months.

    Congratz...


  • 16 January 2016 - 03:44 PM
    hairywolf
    Just curious...there's options around, what makes you guys chose K3 and what's your current ride.
    For me, it's the features and value for the money. I'm currently driving civic FD
  • 16 January 2016 - 04:50 PM
    weikiREE

    Just curious...there's options around, what makes you guys chose K3 and what's your current ride.
    For me, it's the features and value for the money. I'm currently driving civic FD

    Good question lol

    1st the exterior sporty design caught my attention on the road. Suprised it was a KIA actually. Did my research and guess the features sold me too. Also helps that it is below my budget of 100k.

    Hv alot pple around me warning agaisnt buying a korean make as compared to japan make. Unreliable, poor FC, Low resale $$ etc etc. S***W them haha. I find that might be true perhaps 10yrs back.

    At the end of it - i sit inside i happy ... the missus also happy. Case closed fr me.

    At point of time looking at these other options ...
    - vezel (rather not buy through PI)
    - qashqai (out of my budget and dont like the steering)
    - mazda 3 (came close but find interior quite small especially with sunroof my hair was touching the top)

    Current ride is 9yr old Lancer Glx.
  • 16 January 2016 - 05:54 PM
    hairywolf
    Haha...your list was quite similar to mine. Was actually planning for cat b during the time when they're pretty close, there come a sharp dive and change my mine...K3 is not in my list until I visit 4 showroom and tested 4 cars in a day and made my choice. Vezel hybrid was my initial intention.
  • 16 January 2016 - 06:08 PM
    ChongHowKeat

    Just curious...there's options around, what makes you guys chose K3 and what's your current ride.
    For me, it's the features and value for the money. I'm currently driving civic FD

    The K3 LED tail lights caught my attention one day while driving on the road. Nice design and attractive. Together with it's DRL at the front, making the car looks totally stunning. And their stock 17", not too bad IMHO. Ok, that's exterior.

    Decided to drop by C&C Ubi showroom one fine day to check out the car, SX model in particular. Was blown away by it's cockpit interior features. Feels good and feels "continental". Some features which only come standard on a continental car. Motorised/memory seat, steering wheel (cruise/flex steer/bluetooth phone), push start / keyless entry, and the list goes on. Sat inside, butt feels pretty good. So went on to go for a test drive on the SX.

    Quiet cabin, factory fitted leather seats with ventilation aircon for driver side. Interesting and useful features that I have never heard or seen of. My wife sat at the rear during the test drive. Rear aircon for a saloon car is pretty rare too, usually only see rear aircon for sedans like Camry/Accord/Teana category range of car. Test drive went well and smooth, very comfortable ride I must say. Acceleration power was not too bad, 130 bhp for a 1.6L engine. Acceptable to me.

    My wife like it but we did not commit on that day. But we made our purchase on another occasion, SX model.�

    I previously owned a Civic FD 1.8L, with some typical mods. Engine performance and power wise, no horse run comparing to K3.�When I took over the K3, I took quite sometime to adapt to this new car. If wasn't the reaching of 10 years COE, I was so reluctant to let go of my Civic. However, comfort wise, the K3 beats the Civic hands down. But anyway, now married with a 2 year old baby, and second baby coming soon, no need so fast car. Comfort is my main priority for a car.

    Actually was very very tempted by Honda Vezel. Was contemplating between Vezel and K3. Some more Vezel only by PI, HR-V over priced, my colleague waited almost 4-5 months for his Vezel to be delivered. And I heard it's engine running on Honda Fit 1.5L platform, feels a bit underpowered when tested the HR-V. Tested the Altis, but the price a bit turn off. Made in Thailand and not much features.

    Having owned the K3 for a few weeks only, so far so good. Am loving it. No doubt, FC is not as good as Japanese cars like Altis. 12-13km/L so far. To me, FC is normal for a 1.6L NA car. Any better FC would be bonus, if not, life goes on.� [thumbsup]

    Actually read through the 100 plus pages of this forum posted by fellow K3 bro/sis before I went for this car. Interestingly, if today you search on sgcarmart used K3 cars, you will not likely to find any results for any second hand K3 in the market. I guess, the reason why is simple, which I need not say much.


    Edited by ChongHowKeat, 16 January 2016 - 06:09 PM.

  • 16 January 2016 - 07:11 PM
    kianewbie

    Just curious...there's options around, what makes you guys chose K3 and what's your current ride.
    For me, it's the features and value for the money. I'm currently driving civic FD

    For me is the spacious rear seats and those features that usually only can be found in Continental car or luxury sedan.�

    K3 was not my first choice but decide on it after i went to the showroom.

    1st choice was Qashqai

    2nd mazda 3

    3rd K3�

    Had been driving mazda for 3 generations from mazda 323, mazda 3 sp to mazda 3 2009.�


  • 16 January 2016 - 09:51 PM
    hairywolf

    The K3 LED tail lights caught my attention one day while driving on the road. Nice design and attractive. Together with it's DRL at the front, making the car looks totally stunning. And their stock 17", not too bad IMHO. Ok, that's exterior.

    Decided to drop by C&C Ubi showroom one fine day to check out the car, SX model in particular. Was blown away by it's cockpit interior features. Feels good and feels "continental". Some features which only come standard on a continental car. Motorised/memory seat, steering wheel (cruise/flex steer/bluetooth phone), push start / keyless entry, and the list goes on. Sat inside, butt feels pretty good. So went on to go for a test drive on the SX.

    Quiet cabin, factory fitted leather seats with ventilation aircon for driver side. Interesting and useful features that I have never heard or seen of. My wife sat at the rear during the test drive. Rear aircon for a saloon car is pretty rare too, usually only see rear aircon for sedans like Camry/Accord/Teana category range of car. Test drive went well and smooth, very comfortable ride I must say. Acceleration power was not too bad, 130 bhp for a 1.6L engine. Acceptable to me.

    My wife like it but we did not commit on that day. But we made our purchase on another occasion, SX model.

    I previously owned a Civic FD 1.8L, with some typical mods. Engine performance and power wise, no horse run comparing to K3. When I took over the K3, I took quite sometime to adapt to this new car. If wasn't the reaching of 10 years COE, I was so reluctant to let go of my Civic. However, comfort wise, the K3 beats the Civic hands down. But anyway, now married with a 2 year old baby, and second baby coming soon, no need so fast car. Comfort is my main priority for a car.

    Actually was very very tempted by Honda Vezel. Was contemplating between Vezel and K3. Some more Vezel only by PI, HR-V over priced, my colleague waited almost 4-5 months for his Vezel to be delivered. And I heard it's engine running on Honda Fit 1.5L platform, feels a bit underpowered when tested the HR-V. Tested the Altis, but the price a bit turn off. Made in Thailand and not much features.

    Having owned the K3 for a few weeks only, so far so good. Am loving it. No doubt, FC is not as good as Japanese cars like Altis. 12-13km/L so far. To me, FC is normal for a 1.6L NA car. Any better FC would be bonus, if not, life goes on. [thumbsup]

    Actually read through the 100 plus pages of this forum posted by fellow K3 bro/sis before I went for this car. Interestingly, if today you search on sgcarmart used K3 cars, you will not likely to find any results for any second hand K3 in the market. I guess, the reason why is simple, which I need not say much.

    Coming from FD, I share your sentiment, guess I also need some time to get use to K3's power band.
    Any mod in the pipe line...haha...having some cosmetic's in my mind...haha
  • 16 January 2016 - 09:59 PM
    hairywolf

    For me is the spacious rear seats and those features that usually only can be found in Continental car or luxury sedan.
    K3 was not my first choice but decide on it after i went to the showroom.

    1st choice was Qashqai
    2nd mazda 3
    3rd K3

    Had been driving mazda for 3 generations from mazda 323, mazda 3 sp to mazda 3 2009.

    Yes it is. Mz3 is a good choice if not For K3's features
  • 16 January 2016 - 10:03 PM
    Asylum

    Good question lol

    1st the exterior sporty design caught my attention on the road. Suprised it was a KIA actually. Did my research and guess the features sold me too. Also helps that it is below my budget of 100k.

    Hv alot pple around me warning agaisnt buying a korean make as compared to japan make. Unreliable, poor FC, Low resale $$ etc etc. S***W them haha. I find that might be true perhaps 10yrs back.

    At the end of it - i sit inside i happy ... the missus also happy. Case closed fr me.

    At point of time looking at these other options ...
    - vezel (rather not buy through PI)
    - qashqai (out of my budget and dont like the steering)
    - mazda 3 (came close but find interior quite small especially with sunroof my hair was touching the top)

    Current ride is 9yr old Lancer Glx.

    Frankly speaking. Prior to my current K3 i am driving a pre owned cerato 2 gen ago one for a good 6 years. Normal wear and tear confrim have. There was never Need for a major ops or any transplant. So talk abt reliability.. i can only say they nv try korean b4. One thing is for sure. The metal is hard and very hard.

    If you think a honda is harder. Try hitting the bonnet with the side of your fist between a vezel and a k3. Just bang on it.

    You will know what i mean.
  • 16 January 2016 - 10:21 PM
    ChongHowKeat

    Coming from FD, I share your sentiment, guess I also need some time to get use to K3's power band.
    Any mod in the pipe line...haha...having some cosmetic's in my mind...haha

    K3 nothing must to mod lah. Probably change to K&N air filter. Some might not even consider this as mod? haha

    Just relax and drive. Enjoy the ride.


  • 16 January 2016 - 10:39 PM
    hairywolf

    Frankly speaking. Prior to my current K3 i am driving a pre owned cerato 2 gen ago one for a good 6 years. Normal wear and tear confrim have. There was never Need for a major ops or any transplant. So talk abt reliability.. i can only say they nv try korean b4. One thing is for sure. The metal is hard and very hard.

    If you think a honda is harder. Try hitting the bonnet with the side of your fist between a vezel and a k3. Just bang on it.

    You will know what i mean.

    Honda's body was known like milo tin at least to me...paint also sucks...use to spend a bit on grooming in the earlier days but don't bother after the 5th yr
  • 16 January 2016 - 10:45 PM
    hairywolf

    K3 nothing must to mod lah. Probably change to K&N air filter. Some might not even consider this as mod? haha

    Just relax and drive. Enjoy the ride.

    Ya I know it won't be like FD having never ending mods, had enough of these too...some cosmetic for K3 ba...paint roof and ducktail black, PPS and a set of rims that's all abt it
  • 16 January 2016 - 10:47 PM
    Asylum
    I am only clocking 8.5L/100KM. How much are you guys doing???
  • 17 January 2016 - 12:33 AM
    Enzomatrix

    ard the same as urs.

    Anyway if the COE goes down further, gonna scrap the car� [laugh]


  • 17 January 2016 - 08:55 AM
    Ivan_06

    I am only clocking 8.5L/100KM. How much are you guys doing???

    It's normal for k3. If u want better fc, stick with Mazda 3, Mitsubishi Attrage, Nissan Note and etc.
  • 17 January 2016 - 10:40 AM
    hairywolf

    I am only clocking 8.5L/100KM. How much are you guys doing???

    What's you highway/urban ratio?

    ard the same as urs.

    Anyway if the COE goes down further, gonna scrap the car [laugh]

    High chance during 3rd to 4th quarter I guess. Btw how many yrs old your ride is?
  • 17 January 2016 - 07:40 PM
    Blublak

    Guys... quick question.
    When the fuel tank indicator lights up. The fuel tank left how many liter??? Anyone knows??? Try searching manual. Seems like dun have.

    I managed to go east west east�about 90km more before I top...manual book�no say laa. they only�advise u top up once fuel tank lights up.... [furious]


  • 17 January 2016 - 07:45 PM
    Blublak

    Its just a bummer la... and they're also not changing the damn brochure or website... no head no tail... don't know what included or not anymore

    yeah that's y I advise those who wanna buy K3 check with SE actual specs before confirm sign. IMHO I rather wait for face lifted version� [thumbsup]


  • 17 January 2016 - 07:51 PM
    Blublak

    I am only clocking 8.5L/100KM. How much are you guys doing???

    decent�enuff already. don't expect too much...k3 not exactly�fuel efficient car. IIRC managed 6.sumthing L/100km but 100% highway.... [drivingcar]


  • 17 January 2016 - 08:35 PM
    Jaskin

    yeah that's y I advise those who wanna buy K3 check with SE actual specs before confirm sign. IMHO I rather wait for face lifted version� [thumbsup]

    the FL version quite... duh leh interior improve or not?

    Anyway here are the specs

    The SX specs will come with:�
    - 02 airbags
    - 10-way adjustable electric + 02 memory�
    - Xenon headlamps (not HID) <---- i always thought Xenon was HID...�
    - VSM (Vehicle Stability Management)
    - ESC ( Stability control)
    - Keyless entry + engine start
    - Front & rear parking sensors
    - 17inch Sport Alloy wheels + tyres

  • 17 January 2016 - 08:57 PM
    Forte3737

    yeah that's y I advise those who wanna buy K3 check with SE actual specs before confirm sign. IMHO I rather wait for face lifted version [thumbsup]

    By the time new version come out,it will be unaffordable to u
  • 17 January 2016 - 10:52 PM
    Jaskin
    Btw did anyone get the 3yrs/60000km servicing package for $1500? Any comments on that? Dad sign on for a standard K3. The agent was nice enough to let us consider.
  • 17 January 2016 - 11:33 PM
    Blublak

    the FL version quite... duh leh interior improve or not?

    Anyway here are the specs

    The SX specs will come with:�
    - 02 airbags
    - 10-way adjustable electric + 02 memory�
    - Xenon headlamps (not HID) <---- i always thought Xenon was HID...�
    - VSM (Vehicle Stability Management)
    - ESC ( Stability control)
    - Keyless entry + engine start
    - Front & rear parking sensors
    - 17inch Sport Alloy wheels + tyres

    FL update on front and rear bumpers, grill�& headlights. like a mini k5.�More of a cosmetic change.�Interior except for D steering everything else�much the same. Overall it looks a bit refreshing tho... [thumbsup]

    SX now comes with only 2 airbags?? from 6?? seriously C&C.... [furious]�so no more sunroof and bodykit ....


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