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KIA K3 Owners check-in! part 42

  • 24 June 2016 - 09:38 AM
    EWander

    Hi bros, can someone teach me how to view the recordings from the thinkware dashcam?


  • 24 June 2016 - 09:43 AM
    Kevinhwc
    Install the software from the webpage, Take out the memory card And plug into your PC. I assume you are referring to those without wifi.
  • 24 June 2016 - 10:08 AM
    sonic_kp

    Hi bros, can someone teach me how to view the recordings from the thinkware dashcam?

    Download the MX player if you using andriod phone.

    2. Use thinkware app to connect to yr thinkware camera via wifi

    3. U can download the recording history from thinkware to phone via wifi or view live recording.

    Im using Thinkware F750. FYI


  • 24 June 2016 - 06:06 PM
    coolbluepica

    lol rich leh u


    Bro will stock HU affect the SQ? Or aftermarket HU like pioneer or alpine better? But I already have helix processor to "clean up" the sound signals.
  • 24 June 2016 - 06:16 PM
    Enzomatrix

    Bro will stock HU affect the SQ? Or aftermarket HU like pioneer or alpine better? But I already have helix processor to "clean up" the sound signals.

    bro after market HU definitely better la, u have helix processor it does improve so if ur ears not that sensitive to catch the difference then its ok.�


  • 24 June 2016 - 06:26 PM
    coolbluepica

    bro after market HU definitely better la, u have helix processor it does improve so if ur ears not that sensitive to catch the difference then its ok.


    Ya bro. If not the poison never stops.... Looking at Rays grams light now.... Lol.
  • 24 June 2016 - 09:00 PM
    coolbluepica
    Does any Bros on 18" rims? What's the width and offset?
  • 25 June 2016 - 12:53 PM
    Shiq
    I've got my car a few days back but without the eurostyle HU cos no stocks. Once I arrives somewhere at the end of the month, I will go get it fixed. I heard the radio and touchscreen sensitivity is not that good. Is it true?
  • 25 June 2016 - 01:18 PM
    scizorsim

    Wah how u guys get so good FC? my first tank was 9.1l/km means around 11km/l and second tank was 9l/km also around 11km/l ...now onto my third tank ....and jus change to synthetic engine oil after 1k servicing ....will hope it gets better....and for servicing think pls dun chose eunos one....they give me present! (a dent) [furious]

    I think that will probably be my best fc.. now as i drive more shorter distances its becoming closer to 8l/100km

    And im still being gentle on the gas. And not even 1k km

    Guess ill never get a good enough fc as say an altis?
    BTW what's the eurostyle HU ah? Does it come as stock? Sx or ex or both?
  • 25 June 2016 - 02:20 PM
    Kevinhwc

    I think that will probably be my best fc.. now as i drive more shorter distances its becoming closer to 8l/100km

    And im still being gentle on the gas. And not even 1k km

    Guess ill never get a good enough fc as say an altis?
    BTW what's the eurostyle HU ah? Does it come as stock? Sx or ex or both?

    Eurostyle is a company/ brand (cant recall) which install the aftermark HU for C&C/ Kmc locally.

    It's an upgraded HU compared to stock.
  • 25 June 2016 - 02:38 PM
    coolbluepica

    I think that will probably be my best fc.. now as i drive more shorter distances its becoming closer to 8l/100km

    And im still being gentle on the gas. And not even 1k km

    Guess ill never get a good enough fc as say an altis?
    BTW what's the eurostyle HU ah? Does it come as stock? Sx or ex or both?


    Don't be too worried over the fc bro. Kia is not well known for low fc. I believe you already know that when u r buying a Kia. Just enjoy the design and features of the car.

    If we buy a Toyota then we can discuss and compare about fc.
  • 25 June 2016 - 03:32 PM
    scizorsim

    Don't be too worried over the fc bro. Kia is not well known for low fc. I believe you already know that when u r buying a Kia. Just enjoy the design and features of the car.

    If we buy a Toyota then we can discuss and compare about fc.

    You mean well known? I only know kia is average haha.

    But ure right la!
  • 25 June 2016 - 07:12 PM
    coolbluepica

    You mean well known? I only know kia is average haha.

    But ure right la!


    Ya average haha. There are cars that are worst in fc. Better not mention the brand here.
  • 25 June 2016 - 07:31 PM
    Spurman
    Any idea whats the current sx price? Any promos. Hehe
  • 26 June 2016 - 11:52 AM
    teomingern
    Actually not true lar... Kia and Hyundai's fuel consumption is quite close to Toyota now... can check online... difference is usually less than 1 km/L in real world conditions.
  • 26 June 2016 - 12:15 PM
    coolbluepica

    Actually not true lar... Kia and Hyundai's fuel consumption is quite close to Toyota now... can check online... difference is usually less than 1 km/L in real world conditions.

    Really? My FC around 10-11km/L only. My friend's Mazda 3 14-15km/L, with iStop switched off some more.
  • 26 June 2016 - 12:22 PM
    teomingern
    You can't compare like that... your drive routes, driving style are very important and these are very important. If you exchange cars, I dare say it's the same.
  • 26 June 2016 - 01:39 PM
    coolbluepica

    You can't compare like that... your drive routes, driving style are very important and these are very important. If you exchange cars, I dare say it's the same.

    Same driving on average. City start stop, heavy foot.
  • 26 June 2016 - 01:56 PM
    EricHiahBoonChuan
    Hi! I am new to this forum and wish to join a K3 group out there! I am currently driving a KIA K3 SX Sports registered November last year. Nice to meet all of you!
  • 26 June 2016 - 05:34 PM
    Wormee

    Eurostyle is a company/ brand (cant recall) which install the aftermark HU for C&C/ Kmc locally.

    It's an upgraded HU compared to stock.

    Eurostyle is the naming for the HU. It is installed by Tomo-CSE locally partnered with C&C.
  • 26 June 2016 - 10:41 PM
    EricHiahBoonChuan
    Hi everyone, I wish to check if anyone has tuned their K3 yet; direct ECU tuning. Thinking of doing it, any feedbacks? Thanks!
  • 27 June 2016 - 11:45 AM
    Hybridcar

    I've got my car a few days back but without the eurostyle HU cos no stocks. Once I arrives somewhere at the end of the month, I will go get it fixed. I heard the radio and touchscreen sensitivity is not that good. Is it true?

    this eurostyle HU I have with some issue that I encountered from the day I received my K3.

    1. Sometimes just hang... screen freeze... button or touchscreen just wont work

    2. Sometime no sound at all

    3. After put gear to reverse position, reverse camera activate, put gear back to other position (D or P), the reverse camera stay on... forever

    4. Sometime GPS just freeze without I'm knowing it...

    only way to resolve problems above, I need to stop the engine, wait for a while (maybe 2 or 3 minutes), and restart the engine again...

    just live with it.. not a big deal... :)

    as for the fc.... just drive, stop worrying and comparing... already paying much cheaper than others similar range of makes.. :)

    And driving K3 close to�2 years.. quite reliable...


    Edited by Hybridcar, 27 June 2016 - 11:47 AM.

  • 27 June 2016 - 12:04 PM
    teomingern
    You should get Kia to check and reset the unit or flash the firmware to prevent these random freezes. Could be RAM issues.
  • 27 June 2016 - 03:45 PM
    coolbluepica
    Anyone interested in Kia original 17" rims with conti sport contact 5 tyres? Only 4500km run. Letting go cos I want upgrade.
  • 27 June 2016 - 06:39 PM
    Lurpsexx

    You should get Kia to check and reset the unit or flash the firmware to prevent these random freezes. Could be RAM issues.

    Goto tomo-cse...kia workshop can't do much with the hu.. It's sub out to tomo to install..chg whole hu if u can..
  • 27 June 2016 - 07:10 PM
    Kevinhwc
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    Edited by Kevinhwc, 27 June 2016 - 07:12 PM.

  • 27 June 2016 - 08:57 PM
    Shiq

    this eurostyle HU I have with some issue that I encountered from the day I received my K3.

    1. Sometimes just hang... screen freeze... button or touchscreen just wont work
    2. Sometime no sound at all
    3. After put gear to reverse position, reverse camera activate, put gear back to other position (D or P), the reverse camera stay on... forever
    4. Sometime GPS just freeze without I'm knowing it...

    only way to resolve problems above, I need to stop the engine, wait for a while (maybe 2 or 3 minutes), and restart the engine again...

    just live with it.. not a big deal... :)

    as for the fc.... just drive, stop worrying and comparing... already paying much cheaper than others similar range of makes.. :)
    And driving K3 close to 2 years.. quite reliable...

    Wow... sounds like have quite a number of issues. I'd want it just for the reverse cam but at the same time I like to have music on while driving, so I hope the HU won't act up. I'm pretty happy with the in stock HU except there's no reverse cam. For GPS I can make do with Google map on my phone actually. Anyways since the eurostyle HU is free, I suppose I'll just take it as it is.
  • 27 June 2016 - 11:20 PM
    teomingern
    The current model seems ok... this appears to be one off... so far don't have many owners here complain about it.
  • 28 June 2016 - 12:09 AM
    Shiq

    The current model seems ok... this appears to be one off... so far don't have many owners here complain about it.

    Good to know. Hopefully the one they will be installing in my k3 will be without any hiccups.
  • 28 June 2016 - 08:07 AM
    Kiat626

    this eurostyle HU I have with some issue that I encountered from the day I received my K3.

    1. Sometimes just hang... screen freeze... button or touchscreen just wont work

    2. Sometime no sound at all

    3. After put gear to reverse position, reverse camera activate, put gear back to other position (D or P), the reverse camera stay on... forever

    4. Sometime GPS just freeze without I'm knowing it...

    only way to resolve problems above, I need to stop the engine, wait for a while (maybe 2 or 3 minutes), and restart the engine again...

    just live with it.. not a big deal... :)

    as for the fc.... just drive, stop worrying and comparing... already paying much cheaper than others similar range of makes.. :)

    And driving K3 close to�2 years.. quite reliable...

    You should feedback to C&C. They and Tomo-cse do try to solve problems. Just that the owner got to bear the inconvenience of driving to the service center.


  • 28 June 2016 - 08:51 AM
    teomingern

    You should feedback to C&C. They and Tomo-cse do try to solve problems. Just that the owner got to bear the inconvenience of driving to the service center.

    I guess there's no other way right? They'll hardly come to your home to fix it... only people driving Rolls Royce have this privilege... ha ha ha...
  • 28 June 2016 - 04:46 PM
    Enzomatrix

    The current model seems ok... this appears to be one off... so far don't have many owners here complain about it.

    My current batch of Eurostyle rear view mirror. This is before C&C started to offer HU.

    It has reverse cam, gps and camera. I also have issues when the GPS is active and navigating, if I switch to Reverse mode, there is a lag time before the reverse camera comes on and after I switch back to D, I will get a bluescreen for a long while before it function as normal again. Usually I have to force shutdown the eurostyle unit.


  • 29 June 2016 - 10:51 PM
    coolbluepica
    Any Bros replaced rims? Can see photos? I'm thinking up upgrading my rims not sure to get 17" or 18" Rays Engineering.
  • 30 June 2016 - 05:59 AM
    Jzachlee

    Anyone here replaced their Halogen bulbs with LED? Unfortunately, my SX does not come with HID.

    Was it a simple bulb replacement or is there a need to add a ballast or LED controller?

    Am looking at the Phillips H11 LED bulbs, but worried that it may not be bright enough for our low beam. Seems to be a quick bulb replacement. (Link to bulb website below)

    http://www.philips.c...on-led-car-lamp


  • 30 June 2016 - 06:12 AM
    Jzachlee

    My SE shared this video with me. Good basic info on the safety systems on our rides. By the way, the KIA K3 EX does not come with ABS?

    http://www.channelne...in/2893664.html


  • 30 June 2016 - 08:41 AM
    Enzomatrix

    Anyone here replaced their Halogen bulbs with LED? Unfortunately, my SX does not come with HID.

    Was it a simple bulb replacement or is there a need to add a ballast or LED controller?

    Am looking at the Phillips H11 LED bulbs, but worried that it may not be bright enough for our low beam. Seems to be a quick bulb replacement. (Link to bulb website below)

    http://www.philips.c...on-led-car-lamp

    dun really like to change the bulbs, it doesnt really last. I probably change to HID on my own. The thing about our ride is some batches come in HID, while some don't so hehehehe


  • 30 June 2016 - 11:09 AM
    ricleosg

    Anyone here replaced their Halogen bulbs with LED? Unfortunately, my SX does not come with HID.

    Was it a simple bulb replacement or is there a need to add a ballast or LED controller?

    Am looking at the Phillips H11 LED bulbs, but worried that it may not be bright enough for our low beam. Seems to be a quick bulb replacement. (Link to bulb website below)

    http://www.philips.c...on-led-car-lamp

    How much is the Philips?

    I am using LEDs with built in heatsinks, H8 for my foggies and H7 for lowbeams. Output is rated/claimed at 7200 lumens a pair.

    Both bought from ebay, about S$50-60 a pair.

    25213963631_5535d31de3_h.jpg

    very good illumination and does not blind oncoming traffic as our headlights come with projection housings with a proper cut off to prevent glare.

    25280833666_51a6edbc29_h.jpg


    Edited by ricleosg, 30 June 2016 - 11:10 AM.

  • 30 June 2016 - 12:59 PM
    hairywolf

    Anyone here replaced their Halogen bulbs with LED? Unfortunately, my SX does not come with HID.

    Was it a simple bulb replacement or is there a need to add a ballast or LED controller?

    Am looking at the Phillips H11 LED bulbs, but worried that it may not be bright enough for our low beam. Seems to be a quick bulb replacement. (Link to bulb website below)

    http://www.philips.c...on-led-car-lamp

    H11 doesn't match any of your bulbs. If you're looking to replace the stock bulbs, be warned your headlights warranty will be void. 1 important thing to note is the wiring, it may catch fire when over heated, dont touch if you're sure about electrical.

    Info you can find in your manual;�

    Lo beam H7 55W

    Hi beam H1 55W

    Foggie H8 35W

    Not all LED light available in the market are suitable, those no needs modifications come w/o heat sink and driver, but high watts and low Lumun, those with heat sink requires additional adaptor to fit and also concerned unable to contain it with the cap on.

    What ever mod you do, remember not to mod the factory wiring/adaptor etc, you can revert back to stock easily for whatever reasons. It takes me almost 2 months trial and error to fit Lo & Hi beam w/o need to disturb the factory wiring/adaptor.

    Happy searching and modding.


  • 30 June 2016 - 01:04 PM
    hairywolf

    dun really like to change the bulbs, it doesnt really last. I probably change to HID on my own. The thing about our ride is some batches come in HID, while some don't so hehehehe

    Same tot for HID initially, but after some searching, decided to go for LED instead. Claimed 30k~50K hours of life span, got to wait and see how it last.

    HID has very high operating temperature tho


  • 30 June 2016 - 02:44 PM
    Enzomatrix

    Same tot for HID initially, but after some searching, decided to go for LED instead. Claimed 30k~50K hours of life span, got to wait and see how it last.

    HID has very high operating temperature tho

    how much? where u bought from?


  • 30 June 2016 - 03:30 PM
    Hybridcar

    Actually, I did feedback to C&C... the excuse they gave me is that when they (don't know who or true) that they cannot simulate what I reported.�

    So, like what I mention earlier... just live with it :).. Not a big deal... Like some brothers here said, maybe this is one of thing, isolated case..

    More important things to worry in life... like increase of HDB season parking rate?? *sigh*


    How much is the Philips?

    I am using LEDs with built in heatsinks, H8 for my foggies and H7 for lowbeams. Output is rated/claimed at 7200 lumens a pair.

    Both bought from ebay, about S$50-60 a pair.

    25213963631_5535d31de3_h.jpg

    very good illumination and does not blind oncoming traffic as our headlights come with projection housings with a proper cut off to prevent glare.

    25280833666_51a6edbc29_h.jpg

    the front lower bumper in RED... vinyl wrap or paint??


  • 30 June 2016 - 04:05 PM
    hairywolf

    how much? where u bought from?

    Range SGD 50~100+ including shipping. TaoBao and Ebay has it

    https://world.taobao...R854-PV895_2462

    http://www.ebay.com/...w beam&_sacat=0


  • 30 June 2016 - 07:11 PM
    ricleosg

    Actually, I did feedback to C&C... the excuse they gave me is that when they (don't know who or true) that they cannot simulate what I reported.�

    So, like what I mention earlier... just live with it :).. Not a big deal... Like some brothers here said, maybe this is one of thing, isolated case..

    More important things to worry in life... like increase of HDB season parking rate?? *sigh*


    the front lower bumper in RED... vinyl wrap or paint??

    that was a samurai lip cut to shape n stuck on the exisiting lip.

    now i have a diff set up tho hehe.... now is glossy vinyl wrap on the body kit

    27077233832_e956afbf0c_h.jpgsDSC04993 by /">ricleosg, on Flickr


    Edited by ricleosg, 30 June 2016 - 07:11 PM.

  • 30 June 2016 - 10:25 PM
    coolbluepica

    that was a samurai lip cut to shape n stuck on the exisiting lip.

    now i have a diff set up tho hehe.... now is glossy vinyl wrap on the body kit

    27077233832_e956afbf0c_h.jpgsDSC04993 by /">ricleosg, on Flickr


    Very nice looks. Bro u never thought of changing rims?
  • 30 June 2016 - 11:32 PM
    ricleosg

    Very nice looks. Bro u never thought of changing rims?

    haha wait time to change tires, den both tires n rims change together :)


  • 01 July 2016 - 12:39 AM
    coolbluepica

    haha wait time to change tires, den both tires n rims change together :)


    You still using the stock Nexen tyres? What rims u looking at?
  • 01 July 2016 - 06:08 AM
    Jzachlee

    H11 doesn't match any of your bulbs. If you're looking to replace the stock bulbs, be warned your headlights warranty will be void. 1 important thing to note is the wiring, it may catch fire when over heated, dont touch if you're sure about electrical.

    Info you can find in your manual;�

    Lo beam H7 55W

    Hi beam H1 55W

    Foggie H8 35W

    Not all LED light available in the market are suitable, those no needs modifications come w/o heat sink and driver, but high watts and low Lumun, those with heat sink requires additional adaptor to fit and also concerned unable to contain it with the cap on.

    What ever mod you do, remember not to mod the factory wiring/adaptor etc, you can revert back to stock easily for whatever reasons. It takes me almost 2 months trial and error to fit Lo & Hi beam w/o need to disturb the factory wiring/adaptor.

    Happy searching and modding.

    I guess I must have read wrongly. Thought our stock bulbs were H11. Thanks for clarifying! And thank you for the advice.


  • 01 July 2016 - 05:06 PM
    Kwoni

    that was a samurai lip cut to shape n stuck on the exisiting lip.

    now i have a diff set up tho hehe.... now is glossy vinyl wrap on the body kit

    27077233832_e956afbf0c_h.jpgsDSC04993 by /">ricleosg, on Flickr

    Have to admit this is my favourite setup of all K3 I have seen bro.. very classy yet sporty.. Change�a right set of�rims and it will be perfect.


  • 01 July 2016 - 05:48 PM
    ricleosg

    Have to admit this is my favourite setup of all K3 I have seen bro.. very classy yet sporty.. Change�a right set of�rims and it will be perfect.

    ha tks bro. your black beauty with samurai lips also v nice!


    I guess I must have read wrongly. Thought our stock bulbs were H11. Thanks for clarifying! And thank you for the advice.

    H11 could be for other markets.

    for example in the USA, foglights are H11, while here is H8.


    You still using the stock Nexen tyres? What rims u looking at?

    yes still stock nexens!

    not much trade in value so intend to use it until time to change.

    rims just something that looks nice and matches my "chrome" theme hehe.....

    some of the inforged and vossen rims look good. Not gonna be trashing my ride like a track car so not gonna get the super performance rims. any suggestions? what are u using now for rims/tires?


    Edited by ricleosg, 01 July 2016 - 05:49 PM.

  • 01 July 2016 - 09:49 PM
    hairywolf
    Any bro knows what's our stock rim off set or what off set to get flush to the arc?
  • 01 July 2016 - 11:03 PM
    coolbluepica

    ha tks bro. your black beauty with samurai lips also v nice!


    H11 could be for other markets.

    for example in the USA, foglights are H11, while here is H8.


    yes still stock nexens!

    not much trade in value so intend to use it until time to change.

    rims just something that looks nice and matches my "chrome" theme hehe.....

    some of the inforged and vossen rims look good. Not gonna be trashing my ride like a track car so not gonna get the super performance rims. any suggestions? what are u using now for rims/tires?


    I'm still using stock rims with CSC5 tyres.

    I've short listed some rims for consideration.
    1. SSR - GTX01
    2. Rays - 57Extreme
    3. Weds sport - TC105N

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  • 01 July 2016 - 11:09 PM
    coolbluepica

    Any bro knows what's our stock rim off set or what off set to get flush to the arc?


    Our stock rims is 17x7J 49ET.

    Flush can try 8-8.5J 45ET.
  • 02 July 2016 - 09:52 AM
    hairywolf

    Our stock rims is 17x7J 49ET.

    Flush can try 8-8.5J 45ET.

    Thanks for the info bro.

    Not going for 18" or 8.5J rims, when on 18", you'll find your brake & rotor too small, next will be BBK, coil over and camber kit...haha, never ending, so i think i'll stick to 17"

    Was think to change to SSBH and ATF cooler, any WS can do both at a time?


  • 02 July 2016 - 10:58 AM
    coolbluepica

    Thanks for the info bro.
    Not going for 18" or 8.5J rims, when on 18", you'll find your brake & rotor too small, next will be BBK, coil over and camber kit...haha, never ending, so i think i'll stick to 17"
    Was think to change to SSBH and ATF cooler, any WS can do both at a time?

    No need la bro don't do ATF cooler. You will invite more problems or void the warranty. Our brakes is good enough no need for SSBH
  • 02 July 2016 - 11:04 AM
    coolbluepica

    No need la bro don't do ATF cooler. You will invite more problems or void the warranty. Our brakes is good enough no need for SSBH

    I have been through all this and invited many new problems. Best is to keep car as stock as possible. Factory parts are the best parts for the car. Suggest you save the money to do other things like ice , at least you get to enjoy it Everyday and it's a world of difference compared to our stock sound.
  • 02 July 2016 - 04:43 PM
    coolbluepica
    Our car has no alarm one ah?
  • 02 July 2016 - 10:34 PM
    Junjian
    Can we use LED headlight higher than 55W? Or the 55W only applies to halogen bulb?
    I see a lot of led headlight is at least 70W. I scared not safe to use.
  • 02 July 2016 - 10:37 PM
    Kevinhwc
    I think no
  • 03 July 2016 - 12:54 AM
    ricleosg

    Our car has no alarm one ah?

    Have. Uses the horn as the alarm if someone breaks in
  • 03 July 2016 - 01:27 AM
    coolbluepica

    Have. Uses the horn as the alarm if someone breaks in


    How to break in bro? I tried un wind the window, lock door, and unlock from inside and open door. No alarm. Use key to unlock door and open also no alarm.
  • 03 July 2016 - 02:14 PM
    Enzomatrix

    hmm i tried opening the car door with car key after it was locked normally.. the car horn went off with hazard lights.


  • 03 July 2016 - 03:54 PM
    coolbluepica

    hmm i tried opening the car door with car key after it was locked normally.. the car horn went off with hazard lights.

    Ah mine don't have leh. How about other bros?
  • 03 July 2016 - 04:46 PM
    teomingern

    hmm i tried opening the car door with car key after it was locked normally.. the car horn went off with hazard lights.

    This is correct behaviour if I am not wrong. My Impreza also like that last time. Now my Sonata got no key hole to unlock like that so I can't test it.
  • 03 July 2016 - 06:11 PM
    7hm

    This is correct behaviour if I am not wrong. My Impreza also like that last time. Now my Sonata got no key hole to unlock like that so I can't test it.

    not even one of those hidden back up key holes?


  • 03 July 2016 - 06:40 PM
    teomingern

    not even one of those hidden back up key holes?

    Oh that one got lar.... but I don't use it... I mean I think the Elantra some trims not keyless ignition so the key is there... not like mine where you have to remove the key...


  • 03 July 2016 - 06:59 PM
    coolbluepica

    This is correct behaviour if I am not wrong. My Impreza also like that last time. Now my Sonata got no key hole to unlock like that so I can't test it.

    Ah I got it. The remote cannot be in range that the car can sense it. Then alarm will goes off.
  • 04 July 2016 - 09:58 AM
    Enzomatrix

    Ah I got it. The remote cannot be in range that the car can sense it. Then alarm will goes off.

    hmm i didnt took my key away from the car. juz took out the physical key n open and it sounded off.


    LED bulbs plug n play or it comes with the ballast and stuff and we will need to hide it somewhere?

    How much is the Philips?

    I am using LEDs with built in heatsinks, H8 for my foggies and H7 for lowbeams. Output is rated/claimed at 7200 lumens a pair.

    Both bought from ebay, about S$50-60 a pair.

    25213963631_5535d31de3_h.jpg

    very good illumination and does not blind oncoming traffic as our headlights come with projection housings with a proper cut off to prevent glare.

    25280833666_51a6edbc29_h.jpg


  • 04 July 2016 - 11:03 AM
    ricleosg

    hmm i didnt took my key away from the car. juz took out the physical key n open and it sounded off.

    LED bulbs plug n play or it comes with the ballast and stuff and we will need to hide it somewhere?

    Plug n play. Comes with a small box that converts the power for the leds i think. Not sure if thats what u call a ballast. I hide everything into the casing n use the stock cover to cover back. Nothing is exposed
  • 04 July 2016 - 11:33 AM
    Matkeith

    Ah mine don't have leh. How about other bros?



    The K3 comes with factory alarm. Open the bonnet and on the TOP left side will be the alarm. Your 'beeping' horn is behind the front bumper. To test the alarm, unwind the driver's side window, lock the door and remove the transponder key away from the car for more than 3ft. Wait for 1 minute for the car to be armed. Go and unlock the door and the ONLY the opening of the door will activate the alarm. Press unlock button on transponder key to disarm. Take note the transponder key must not be within 3ft of the car while waiting for the car to arm.
  • 04 July 2016 - 03:03 PM
    Enzomatrix

    Plug n play. Comes with a small box that converts the power for the leds i think. Not sure if thats what u call a ballast. I hide everything into the casing n use the stock cover to cover back. Nothing is exposed

    yeah the small box is the ballast. Able to share photos of the internal on how u hide everything into the casing? I'm thinking of changing the bulbs but wondering where to hide them.


  • 04 July 2016 - 03:17 PM
    hairywolf

    No need la bro don't do ATF cooler. You will invite more problems or void the warranty. Our brakes is good enough no need for SSBH

    Ya im aware of the warranty void when i mod the item/s. I drive the car pretty hard at times, ATF is good for the GB cooling. I find the brakes are rather spongy, SSBH can solve the problem.�


  • 04 July 2016 - 03:45 PM
    hairywolf

    I have been through all this and invited many new problems. Best is to keep car as stock as possible. Factory parts are the best parts for the car. Suggest you save the money to do other things like ice , at least you get to enjoy it Everyday and it's a world of difference compared to our stock sound.

    Different ppl has different needs to the car, some preferred 100% stock. Some like to chng swee swee for cusmetic reason. Some like ICE, enjoying it while driving. Some on mod to enhance and some mod for tracking, etc, end of the day, need to spend for another round dekiting when in due.�

    Depends on which cat you falls into and look at things, Im the latter. Some engine notes sound better then any music...But definately not my K3's...lol


  • 04 July 2016 - 03:56 PM
    hairywolf

    yeah the small box is the ballast. Able to share photos of the internal on how u hide everything into the casing? I'm thinking of changing the bulbs but wondering where to hide them.

    HID comes with ballast. LED comes with driver. H1 Hi beam (with driver) and H8 Foggie (w/o driver) is plug and play. H7 you need additional adaptor and you need to grind the internal hole to fit the bulb body in.�

    You need to chose the correct type and bulb size to contain everything within the casing. Some comes with cooling fan which i find it's invite problem when the fan broken down, you dont know how long it can last.


  • 04 July 2016 - 03:59 PM
    Enzomatrix

    that sounds troublesome. I'm looking for a simple way to install it so I can revert it when needed, no grinding or cutting.


  • 04 July 2016 - 04:21 PM
    hairywolf

    that sounds troublesome. I'm looking for a simple way to install it so I can revert it when needed, no grinding or cutting.

    Indeed a bit of troublesome if dont have the tools and hands-on. You grind on the additional adaptor, the original wiring and adaptor is not disturb. I think it takes 15 mins for me to revert all back to stock. You can consider 5000K halogen bulb if you wants to save all the troubles, 100% P&P.


  • 04 July 2016 - 04:53 PM
    ricleosg

    yeah the small box is the ballast. Able to share photos of the internal on how u hide everything into the casing? I'm thinking of changing the bulbs but wondering where to hide them.

    actually the ballast or driver box is quite small.

    if u open up the covers for the main headlights, you will see there is alot of empty space all around.

    just connect your cables and you can put everything inside, including the small box.


    Indeed a bit of troublesome if dont have the tools and hands-on. You grind on the additional adaptor, the original wiring and adaptor is not disturb. I think it takes 15 mins for me to revert all back to stock. You can consider 5000K halogen bulb if you wants to save all the troubles, 100% P&P.

    can you show a pic of the additional adaptor? or perhaps a link to ebay or taobao where that adaptor can be bought.

    currently my LED fits in just nice, with the end of the heat sink touching the cap. so everything is held in with the cap closed.�


    Edited by ricleosg, 04 July 2016 - 04:51 PM.

  • 04 July 2016 - 06:21 PM
    coolbluepica
    Just went to shop to replace horn but end up didn't want to do as need to down whole bumper. Our horn is located at the bottom radiator grille.
  • 04 July 2016 - 06:31 PM
    Enzomatrix

    Just went to shop to replace horn but end up didn't want to do as need to down whole bumper. Our horn is located at the bottom radiator grille.

    i didnt down bumper, juz the bumper cover in the boot and the grill to access the horn.�


    actually the ballast or driver box is quite small.

    if u open up the covers for the main headlights, you will see there is alot of empty space all around.

    just connect your cables and you can put everything inside, including the small box.


    can you show a pic of the additional adaptor? or perhaps a link to ebay or taobao where that adaptor can be bought.

    currently my LED fits in just nice, with the end of the heat sink touching the cap. so everything is held in with the cap closed.�

    bro where did u get ur LED? maybe different design? since urs is proven to be able to put all inside.


  • 04 July 2016 - 06:43 PM
    coolbluepica

    i didnt down bumper, juz the bumper cover in the boot and the grill to access the horn.

    bro where did u get ur LED? maybe different design? since urs is proven to be able to put all inside.


    Your horn is behind the tiger nose grille? Mine is behind the bottom grille.
  • 04 July 2016 - 07:20 PM
    Enzomatrix

    Your horn is behind the tiger nose grille? Mine is behind the bottom grille.

    no idea but when i saw him taking out, the installer onli took out those parts and didnt took the bumper off.


  • 04 July 2016 - 07:44 PM
    coolbluepica

    no idea but when i saw him taking out, the installer onli took out those parts and didnt took the bumper off.

    You saw him removed the tiger nose grille?
  • 04 July 2016 - 07:53 PM
    Enzomatrix

    You saw him removed the tiger nose grille?

    yup


  • 04 July 2016 - 09:48 PM
    ricleosg

    bro where did u get ur LED? maybe different design? since urs is proven to be able to put all inside.

    I got from ebay.

    unfortunately the seller seems to have stopped selling stuff last month.

    this is a thumbnail for the auction item i was able to find from my purchase history.

    p.jpg


  • 05 July 2016 - 12:08 AM
    coolbluepica
    This I suppose can fit too? But I'm concerned if the heat sink is hidden inside the headlamp box will it overheat and catch fire.

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  • 05 July 2016 - 10:01 AM
    ricleosg

    This I suppose can fit too? But I'm concerned if the heat sink is hidden inside the headlamp box will it overheat and catch fire.

    should be able to fit.�

    I was also concerned about temperature, and i was monitoring it closely the first few weeks of installation, opening up the box to check on temperatures after long night drives

    • What I observed was that the temperature within the engine bay was hotter than the air within the headlamp box.
    • The LEDs never got hotter in terms of temperature than what i remembered the halogens. Halogens you cannot handle directly after switching them off. The LEDs I could take them out and hold them quite quickly after switching them off.

    so my conclusion was that the temperature is still within operating temperatures of the halogen bulbs, and closing up the cover probably doesn't make too much difference since the engine bay itself is hotter.

    For a period of time I used the Leds with the cover open/exposed. However I find that this creates 2 problems. firstly dust can get into the headlight housing, and secondly water may get in as well.

    I decided to just use it with the covers closed. The LEDs are cheaper than the Philips diamond visions, even if the fans fail prematurely, as long as they last as long as the halogens, they are worth the $$$$ for the pure white light and lower power consumption.


    Edited by ricleosg, 05 July 2016 - 10:06 AM.

  • 05 July 2016 - 11:11 AM
    Enzomatrix

    should be able to fit.�

    I was also concerned about temperature, and i was monitoring it closely the first few weeks of installation, opening up the box to check on temperatures after long night drives

    • What I observed was that the temperature within the engine bay was hotter than the air within the headlamp box.
    • The LEDs never got hotter in terms of temperature than what i remembered the halogens. Halogens you cannot handle directly after switching them off. The LEDs I could take them out and hold them quite quickly after switching them off.

    so my conclusion was that the temperature is still within operating temperatures of the halogen bulbs, and closing up the cover probably doesn't make too much difference since the engine bay itself is hotter.

    For a period of time I used the Leds with the cover open/exposed. However I find that this creates 2 problems. firstly dust can get into the headlight housing, and secondly water may get in as well.

    I decided to just use it with the covers closed. The LEDs are cheaper than the Philips diamond visions, even if the fans fail prematurely, as long as they last as long as the halogens, they are worth the $$$$ for the pure white light and lower power consumption.

    thanks for the detailed findings.

    Just to confirm, there is a small box for the driver that we connect between the bulb and the headlight power right on top of the bulb shown in the pic?

    I read somewhere that the headlight is H7 55W. Any issues using lower than 55W?


    This I suppose can fit too? But I'm concerned if the heat sink is hidden inside the headlamp box will it overheat and catch fire.

    Found ur one on ebay. seems like no driver/ballast.. is plug n play but they mentioned something abt some car require resistors else might encounter light up problem or dash board error. Dun think K3 will encounter the latter since we dun have any sensors for headlight.


    Edited by Enzomatrix, 05 July 2016 - 11:14 AM.

  • 05 July 2016 - 02:29 PM
    ricleosg

    thanks for the detailed findings.

    Just to confirm, there is a small box for the driver that we connect between the bulb and the headlight power right on top of the bulb shown in the pic?

    I read somewhere that the headlight is H7 55W. Any issues using lower than 55W?


    yes there is a small box for the driver. i hid that into our headlight housing. enough space.

    lower power means less consumption, better efficiency. so should be good? If higher power, will need to upgrade the fuses also to prevent them from blowing? Not a very electrical person so i duno...

    i saw some LEDs that are 120w! 4 sides all have the LED diodes, super bright. but i think those bulbs will be super hot temperature wise.

    the 120w LED below. 12000LM!

    $_12.JPG


    Edited by ricleosg, 05 July 2016 - 02:31 PM.

  • 05 July 2016 - 02:37 PM
    Enzomatrix

    yes there is a small box for the driver. i hid that into our headlight housing. enough space.

    lower power means less consumption, better efficiency. so should be good? If higher power, will need to upgrade the fuses also to prevent them from blowing? Not a very electrical person so i duno...

    i saw some LEDs that are 120w! 4 sides all have the LED diodes, super bright. but i think those bulbs will be super hot temperature wise.

    the 120w LED below. 12000LM!

    $_12.JPG

    Noted bro,

    maybe i try this out since it's plug n play

    http://www.ebay.com....UIAAOSwqu9VTGrM


  • 05 July 2016 - 02:53 PM
    ricleosg

    Noted bro,

    maybe i try this out since it's plug n play

    http://www.ebay.com....UIAAOSwqu9VTGrM

    Ha my advise is to buy from a china ebay seller. All made in china!
  • 05 July 2016 - 03:03 PM
    hairywolf

    yes there is a small box for the driver. i hid that into our headlight housing. enough space.

    lower power means less consumption, better efficiency. so should be good? If higher power, will need to upgrade the fuses also to prevent them from blowing? Not a very electrical person so i duno...

    i saw some LEDs that are 120w! 4 sides all have the LED diodes, super bright. but i think those bulbs will be super hot temperature wise.

    the 120w LED below. 12000LM!

    $_12.JPG

    120W is dangerous to use, our power cable is good for drawing 55W, over current will melt the power cable. Pls dont upgrade the fuse as well, it's worse if the fuse cant break when over current, so what happen next is power cable catch fire!


  • 05 July 2016 - 03:10 PM
    Enzomatrix

    Noted bro,

    maybe i try this out since it's plug n play

    http://www.ebay.com....UIAAOSwqu9VTGrM

    cant find a china one on ebay that has plug n play without the driver. juz opened up the cover of headlight.quite a bit of space with the wirings at the btm. But some effort to access the headlight, pretty tight on the side of the bonnet area.


  • 05 July 2016 - 04:17 PM
    ricleosg

    120W is dangerous to use, our power cable is good for drawing 55W, over current will melt the power cable. Pls dont upgrade the fuse as well, it's worse if the fuse cant break when over current, so what happen next is power cable catch fire!

    good advise.

    hehe my current LEDs are below 55w, so shld be ok. will stick to them. plenty bright enough already, although not as bright as HIDs.


    cant find a china one on ebay that has plug n play without the driver. juz opened up the cover of headlight.quite a bit of space with the wirings at the btm. But some effort to access the headlight, pretty tight on the side of the bonnet area.

    ya the right side is more difficult to access.

    after doing it a few times u will get the hang of it. :p

    will surely have the driver box, just this pic u saw didnt include that.


  • 05 July 2016 - 04:23 PM
    ricleosg

    cant find a china one on ebay that has plug n play without the driver. juz opened up the cover of headlight.quite a bit of space with the wirings at the btm. But some effort to access the headlight, pretty tight on the side of the bonnet area.

    oh ya i found another seller who has the LED i bought in stock. abit more ex tho. mine was about $50 bucks.

    $_12.JPG

    http://www.ebay.com....~oAAOSw0HVWCK6S


  • 05 July 2016 - 04:40 PM
    Enzomatrix

    good advise.

    hehe my current LEDs are below 55w, so shld be ok. will stick to them. plenty bright enough already, although not as bright as HIDs.


    ya the right side is more difficult to access.

    after doing it a few times u will get the hang of it. :p

    will surely have the driver box, just this pic u saw didnt include that.

    actually, ours is 55W and the one i found is 30W each side so consider 30 or 60W? lol

    Also wondering whether it is 70+ per pc or 1 set. They nv wrote anything abt that �lol

    cos the one i found in the description wrote plug n play, no driver but i cant find info on it online. Not even reviews.


    u mentioned that u hide everything inside the cover. I opened the cover earlier and saw wirings at the btm inside the headlight compartment. Will the driver be hot and damage the wiriing if we just throw it at the bottom or the onli hot part is the bottom of the bulb where the heatsink n cooling fan is.

    oh ya i found another seller who has the LED i bought in stock. abit more ex tho. mine was about $50 bucks.

    $_12.JPG

    http://www.ebay.com....~oAAOSw0HVWCK6S


    Edited by Enzomatrix, 05 July 2016 - 04:38 PM.

  • 05 July 2016 - 07:13 PM
    coolbluepica
    I went to my audio shop and asked for osram night breaker H7. The boss told me that the light is also yellowish. Changed also same. So end up got a Osram HID Conversion kit H7 6000k 35W. And LED foglights, and Stebel horns. All nicely done. HID kit nicely hidden and 100% plug and play.

    Was told by the boss that LED bulbs with built in heat sink will not last as its hidden inside the headlamp cover and not safe.

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  • 05 July 2016 - 07:43 PM
    ricleosg

    actually, ours is 55W and the one i found is 30W each side so consider 30 or 60W? lol

    Also wondering whether it is 70+ per pc or 1 set. They nv wrote anything abt that �lol

    cos the one i found in the description wrote plug n play, no driver but i cant find info on it online. Not even reviews.


    u mentioned that u hide everything inside the cover. I opened the cover earlier and saw wirings at the btm inside the headlight compartment. Will the driver be hot and damage the wiriing if we just throw it at the bottom or the onli hot part is the bottom of the bulb where the heatsink n cooling fan is.

    the driver is not hot. only the heat sink is hot. hehe....they just nvr showed you the other components...


    I went to my audio shop and asked for osram night breaker H7. The boss told me that the light is also yellowish. Changed also same. So end up got a Osram HID Conversion kit H7 6000k 35W. And LED foglights, and Stebel horns. All nicely done. HID kit nicely hidden and 100% plug and play.

    Was told by the boss that LED bulbs with built in heat sink will not last as its hidden inside the headlamp cover and not safe.

    nice blackie!

    so how did they hide the hid? also all in the original headlamp housing?

    HID operates at temperatures even hotter than LED.... I would say the first thing to spoil for the LEDs will probably be the fan. if the fan fails, just buy another LED....�

    the prices i buy from ebay the LEDs are cheaper than philips diamond vision keke....


  • 05 July 2016 - 08:32 PM
    coolbluepica

    the driver is not hot. only the heat sink is hot. hehe....they just nvr showed you the other components...


    nice blackie!

    so how did they hide the hid? also all in the original headlamp housing?

    HID operates at temperatures even hotter than LED.... I would say the first thing to spoil for the LEDs will probably be the fan. if the fan fails, just buy another LED....

    the prices i buy from ebay the LEDs are cheaper than philips diamond vision keke....

    It's plug and play type with no cutting or modifications of wires. Ballast hidden underneath of headlamp housing. 5mins to revert back to yellowish halogen.
  • 05 July 2016 - 08:53 PM
    Enzomatrix

    maybe i juz get the original stock HID headlight, 1.4k both side hehehe


  • 05 July 2016 - 10:21 PM
    coolbluepica

    maybe i juz get the original stock HID headlight, 1.4k both side hehehe


    Just install Osram HID bro. Any problem, only takes 5mins to revert back.
  • 05 July 2016 - 10:27 PM
    ricleosg

    maybe i juz get the original stock HID headlight, 1.4k both side hehehe

    ha 1.4k is very pricey.... even if it is stock HID from Kia, it is still illegal in LTA eyes as it did not come stock from factory with your car.

    i would rather use a 3rd pty HID or LED.

    the LED is also easily revertible to halogens for inspections.


  • 05 July 2016 - 11:13 PM
    coolbluepica

    ha 1.4k is very pricey.... even if it is stock HID from Kia, it is still illegal in LTA eyes as it did not come stock from factory with your car.

    i would rather use a 3rd pty HID or LED.

    the LED is also easily revertible to halogens for inspections.


    Bro HID need to be removed for inspection? Can try maybe can pass? Cos nowadays modern cars comes with Hid and our headlamp have projector , it looks stock. I think there's a batch of K3 SX comes with HID?
  • 05 July 2016 - 11:21 PM
    ricleosg

    Bro HID need to be removed for inspection? Can try maybe can pass? Cos nowadays modern cars comes with Hid and our headlamp have projector , it looks stock. I think there's a batch of K3 SX comes with HID?

    if you check your car log card on one motoring, you will find that whether it came with HID or Halogens is clearly recorded for every car.

    so when you go for your inspection, they will know what it should come with.

    whether pass or fail will depend on luck... since my LEDs are easily removable, i will use back halogens when time for inspection comes :)


  • 06 July 2016 - 12:18 AM
    BullsEye

    I went to my audio shop and asked for osram night breaker H7. The boss told me that the light is also yellowish. Changed also same. So end up got a Osram HID Conversion kit H7 6000k 35W. And LED foglights, and Stebel horns. All nicely done. HID kit nicely hidden and 100% plug and play.

    Was told by the boss that LED bulbs with built in heat sink will not last as its hidden inside the headlamp cover and not safe.

    Nice bro. Can share where u change it? And how much?
  • 06 July 2016 - 06:09 AM
    Jzachlee

    if you check your car log card on one motoring, you will find that whether it came with HID or Halogens is clearly recorded for every car.

    so when you go for your inspection, they will know what it should come with.

    whether pass or fail will depend on luck... since my LEDs are easily removable, i will use back halogens when time for inspection comes :)

    Our log card says what bulbs are installed? I just took a look at mine, cannot find where it says Halogen installed leh.

    Maybe I am looking at the wrong card?


  • 06 July 2016 - 11:09 AM
    coolbluepica

    Our log card says what bulbs are installed? I just took a look at mine, cannot find where it says Halogen installed leh.

    Maybe I am looking at the wrong card?

    I think they not so free to look at log card for every cars that Come in. Long queue Everyday & doing the same thing day in day out very sian liao. As Long our headlamp is projector type should be fine. Reflector type definitely cannot use HID. I read that someone passed inspection with HID on our projector lamps.

    But one thing, how is the warranty affected ? Only void for headlamp? Or when wanna claim warranty just pull out everything ?
  • 06 July 2016 - 11:57 AM
    Enzomatrix
    No it doesnt show whether hid or halogen. Anyway since k3 came with hid n i got the original one.. it should be ok. Juz that it cost quite a bit but at least its still "stock" haha
  • 06 July 2016 - 12:08 PM
    Enzomatrix
    http://m.ebay.com/it...6.c100408.m2460
  • 06 July 2016 - 12:44 PM
    coolbluepica

    http://m.ebay.com/it...6.c100408.m2460

    I think the housing is the same for both halogen and xenon. It's the power supply difference. Xenon requires high voltage while our supply to halogen is only 55W. Should upgrade the power supply instead of the plastic housing.
  • 06 July 2016 - 12:56 PM
    coolbluepica
    Just did my headlight aiming test. Move car 1ft away from wall. Mark the top beam light on the wall. Back off car 25ft away from wall. Now the top of the beam should be 2" below the first marking. Our headlamp level setting should be at "0" to achieve this. Any setting more than "0" is out of aim (too low). Even at "0" setting, the light beam is still more than 2" lower than the 1st marking.

    Hope this helps.
  • 07 July 2016 - 12:14 PM
    Kwoni

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    Edited by Kwoni, 07 July 2016 - 12:19 PM.

  • 07 July 2016 - 12:19 PM
    Kwoni

    Finally some updates..

    Cheap alternative to bodykit...

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    Edited by Kwoni, 07 July 2016 - 12:20 PM.

  • 07 July 2016 - 12:38 PM
    Kwoni

    I think they not so free to look at log card for every cars that Come in. Long queue Everyday & doing the same thing day in day out very sian liao. As Long our headlamp is projector type should be fine. Reflector type definitely cannot use HID. I read that someone passed inspection with HID on our projector lamps.

    But one thing, how is the warranty affected ? Only void for headlamp? Or when wanna claim warranty just pull out everything ?

    They dun need to look at log cards... just your registration number they will know what specs your car comes with... dun forget they passed the inspection when cnc import your cars in..which oso determines the omv...

    Hid better not try if it's not stock...

    Edited by Kwoni, 07 July 2016 - 12:39 PM.

  • 07 July 2016 - 01:51 PM
    coolbluepica
    Depends on luck bah. There are Bros who passed inspection with HID and de-cat exhaust, upsized turbos etc. Just like Headunit is not supposed to play video images during driving, but after market Headunits will play video while driving & inspection don't look at that too.
  • 07 July 2016 - 03:49 PM
    hairywolf

    You'll still passed overall even you'd failed headlights. I'd failed headlights for almost all of inspections...lol

    But if you mask/tint your head/tail lights, they'll ask you if you want to remove it on the spot or you need to come back the second time, i chose to remove it on the spot...nbz


  • 07 July 2016 - 06:48 PM
    scizorsim
    On headlights.. how do i turn off drl when engine is running?
  • 07 July 2016 - 07:03 PM
    Enzomatrix

    not possible if stock


  • 07 July 2016 - 07:11 PM
    coolbluepica

    You'll still passed overall even you'd failed headlights. I'd failed headlights for almost all of inspections...lol
    But if you mask/tint your head/tail lights, they'll ask you if you want to remove it on the spot or you need to come back the second time, i chose to remove it on the spot...nbz

    Oh bro headlight test will not fail the entire inspection? You are using HID too? I know tinting of headlamp straight fail. Why u tint bro? Look nicer?
  • 07 July 2016 - 08:58 PM
    Kwoni

    On headlights.. how do i turn off drl when engine is running?

    It cannot be switched off.
  • 07 July 2016 - 09:25 PM
    hairywolf

    Oh bro headlight test will not fail the entire inspection? You are using HID too? I know tinting of headlamp straight fail. Why u tint bro? Look nicer?

    Civic FD comes with HID reflector type, I changed to 5000k and LED T10 for pole light, never pass any of the inspection since, I'm always told by the inspector that my headlights failed, it's also stated headlight fail on cert but still got overall passed.
    Ermm...I'm told each tint will gain 2 horses, so tinted all the head and tail lights hoping to get 8 ponies...hahaha
  • 07 July 2016 - 09:48 PM
    k3k3k3

    Oh bro headlight test will not fail the entire inspection? You are using HID too? I know tinting of headlamp straight fail. Why u tint bro? Look nicer?

    Hi coolbluepica, can u advise where to fix the HID and price?

    Thank you.


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