mycarforum: KIA K3 Owners check-in! part 9

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Can anyone comment on the historical K3 prices and if current promo is a good deal? Was looking at used cars but their prices are equivalent or even higher in depreciation as compared to new. Ridiculous.

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Kia K3 EX current Promo Price SGD 100,999/- with trade-in (K3 EX OMV approx. $13K)

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-�� Tint Windows

-�� 5 Yrs Free Maintenance Package (by Maybank with min 50%/5yr loan at 2.6% p.a.)

-�� $500/- petrol voucher (by Maybank with min 50%/5yr loan at 2.6% p.a.)

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The SX is about 7 or 8K more I think and the OMV is about $17k plus. Is the SX better value?

The last two items only apply if you go for the 2.6% p.a. loan package (still worth it if you work out)

Bluetooth is standard in the car audio. First 5 items are extras.

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The price can go lower as the demand appears (to me) to be softening* as can be seen from the relative strength of the bids.

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some of us have the price lists of the past months. C&C has this habit of stirring the water a bit so that people who are only cursorily looking would not be able to get the final price that easily. Ditto for Komoco (now they are more transparent)

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Is the car worth it? The EX is not much different physically from the SX and the ride is soft and comfortable. I'd say "go for it" !

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Ask for 3M mats (i did not ask) or at least a further discount of $1k. I suppose yours is the guaranteed bid? They should now be offering that*

The led fog lights look cool. Just don't understand why C&C don't bring this GT K3 option in. The look is a killer.�

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Edited by Black6, 09 December 2014 - 10:35 AM.

The last two items only apply if you go for the 2.6% p.a. loan package (still worth it if you work out)

Bluetooth is standard in the car audio. First 5 items are extras.

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The price can go lower as the demand appears (to me) to be softening* as can be seen from the relative strength of the bids.

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some of us have the price lists of the past months. C&C has this habit of stirring the water a bit so that people who are only cursorily looking would not be able to get the final price that easily. Ditto for Komoco (now they are more transparent)

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Is the car worth it? The EX is not much different physically from the SX and the ride is soft and comfortable. I'd say "go for it" !

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Ask for 3M mats (i did not ask) or at least a further discount of $1k. I suppose yours is the guaranteed bid? They should now be offering that*

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The SE didn't commit that the bid is guaranteed but he say 'sure can get'. The current EX stock is limited in quantity/colors so they are trying to push the SX. ��

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I was also surprised by the slight drop in bids considering CNY is near. So am a bit hesitant to commit to a new car now. You can bicker with the SE for $1K or 2K and some freebies but it means nothing if COE fluctuates a few thousand next bid. Frustrating...

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Thanks for the tips.

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The SE didn't commit that the bid is guaranteed but he say 'sure can get'. The current EX stock is limited in quantity/colors so they are trying to push the SX. ��

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I was also surprised by the slight drop in bids considering CNY is near. So am a bit hesitant to commit to a new car now. You can bicker with the SE for $1K or 2K and some freebies but it means nothing if COE fluctuates a few thousand next bid. Frustrating...

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Thanks for the tips.

"Bicker"" argue about petty and trivial matters.

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$1K-$2K is no small matter and not trivial at all. Even if COE goes against you, would not the further discount help? But of course if $2K is small change, I suppose you dont want to 'bicker' [smash] �

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If you can wait, you should

"Bicker"" argue about petty and trivial matters.

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$1K-$2K is no small matter and not trivial at all. Even if COE goes against you, would not the further discount help? But of course if $2K is small change, I suppose you dont want to 'bicker' �

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If you can wait, you should

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I don't mean $1-2k is nothing. What I'm saying is that $1-2k means nothing if the COE prices dips. And chances are that it will dip just above the COE rebate from the dealer so buyers will just have to suck it up.

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Unfortunately I cannot wait as my car will expire 1st Feb. Took the less risky choice and committed to a '08 Honda Airwave yesterday.

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http://www.sgcarmart...=432813&DL=2487

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Like many others, I will hold on to the hope that COE will drop to $40-50k range further into 2015/16. Thenk I can confidently look at getting a new K3. Or perhaps a K5...

any others looking at k3 ?

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I still considering kia k3 and mazda 3 haha

any others looking at k3 ?

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I still considering kia k3 and mazda 3 haha

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Both are nice.... Give both a test drive... See which one suit you more.

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I settle for K3 because bigger cabin space and�features�and at lower pricing..

Features are vary from person to person though

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Of course FC cannot compare to M3. By the way, heavy footers will not make any difference... hehe

any others looking at k3 ?

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I still considering kia k3 and mazda 3 haha

Mazda 3 engine is rougher,noisier & less power,but handling wise Mazda wins hands down....equipment wise my SX version is the best...

Mazda 3 engine is rougher,noisier & less power,but handling wise Mazda wins hands down....equipment wise my SX version is the best...

did not test drive the MZ3 so cannot say much about it. i went for K3 for the features/price and C&C. And lastly, my previous good experience with my previous Kia

I also drive a Mazda 6,so i knew how noisy the engine is compared with my Kia.[Actually the Kia K3 belongs to my brother,drive once a week to market[.

as I grow older, I appreciate driving a�family non-descript car. is it me or what? I seem to find the car noisier. Higher expectations now?

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7.8l / 100km means to run 100km, you will need 7.8l of fuel.

To convert to km/l, just divide 100 by 7.8, which gives you 12.82km/l, which means, every liter of fuel will let u travel 12.82km.

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Just to share my FC (driving since 1 Oct 2014) - the FC I got for my last 5 pumps are:

11.0, 10.6, 10.7, 10.9 and 10.3 (km/l).

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This gives an average of 10.7km/l. I was hoping it can maintain above 11km/l, but seemingly difficult for me. In this aspect, my previous ride is definitely better but the comfort level and specs far exceed the previous ride's standard, so not complaining :)

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The meter reading from the car is not accurate. It usually hovers around 8.5l/100km, which is equivalent to about 11.7km/l; something that I have yet to achieve.

Thanks for sharing, very believable. May I check if ur on 15, 16 or 17 inch wheels?� Mostly city driving?

Thanks for sharing, very believable. May I check if ur on 15, 16 or 17 inch wheels?� Mostly city driving?

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I'm on 17" wheels... My routes are pretty standard... in the morning, Potong Pasir to Shenton Way (totally city driving), thereafter proceed to Tuas via AYE (have to travel about 7km on small roads after exiting from AYE). In the evening: from Tuas (another 7km till I hit highway) straight to Potong Pasir (via AYE or PIE)... usually will be caught in heavy traffic or bad jam. Daily travel about 66km. Based on personal estimation... I think can considered 60-65% highway?

Thanks for sharing, very believable. May I check if ur on 15, 16 or 17 inch wheels?� Mostly city driving?

At 90% highway, i manage about 8l/100km. Looks like the figures are only slightly better than the older Forte.

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I'm on 17" wheels... My routes are pretty standard... in the morning, Potong Pasir to Shenton Way (totally city driving), thereafter proceed to Tuas via AYE (have to travel about 7km on small roads after exiting from AYE). In the evening: from Tuas (another 7km till I hit highway) straight to Potong Pasir (via AYE or PIE)... usually will be caught in heavy traffic or bad jam. Daily travel about 66km. Based on personal estimation... I think can considered 60-65% highway?

Thanks.

At 90% highway, i manage about 8l/100km. Looks like the figures are only slightly better than the older Forte.

Thats 12km/Litre.

Sounds like K3 is 10-12km / L depending on traffic.�

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Does the Eurostyle Multimedia System brightness reset to 90% automatically after car off/on?

I reduced the brightness to 10% from the settings screen, but it defaults back to 90% the next time I start the car.

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Edited by Kiat626, 23 December 2014 - 06:54 PM.

Haven't reduced the brightness of mine.

Btw, does our Eurostyle HU allows us to play songs from our handphone via Bluetooth? I'm using a Samsung and it seems like it can't do that.

Haven't reduced the brightness of mine.

Btw, does our Eurostyle HU allows us to play songs from our handphone via Bluetooth? I'm using a Samsung and it seems like it can't do that.

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Hi, I did tried Bluetooth to play song... it does play.. using my LG G2.. shouldn't be any difference..

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But basically never use that (always on radio) after initial trying..

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BTW, anyone have experience that the seat cooling seems does not work once in a while??

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Hi, I did tried Bluetooth to play song... it does play.. using my LG G2.. shouldn't be any difference..
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But basically never use that (always on radio) after initial trying..
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BTW, anyone have experience that the seat cooling seems does not work once in a while??

Bro, care to share how you play songs from hp to HU?
Is it iPod option on HU or similar?

Till date I can't figure it out..

Bro, care to share how you play songs from hp to HU?
Is it iPod option on HU or similar?

Till date I can't figure it out..

i'll check again later when I get to my car... long time never play song from phone via Bluetooth :P

Bro, care to share how you play songs from hp to HU?
Is it iPod option on HU or similar?

Till date I can't figure it out..

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I tried and it works with my Samsung Galaxy Note 2.

Your phone needs to be already bluetooth paired.

It must also support A2DP.

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Select Bluetooth.

Your phone should be connected at this time.

There is a "Mobile media" button on the upper left.

Click that.

The sound will be streamed to the car's audio when you select a song on your mobile phone directly.

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Refer to page 25 and 26 of the instruction booklet for the "Mobile media" button location.

Edited by Kiat626, 24 December 2014 - 04:07 PM.

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I tried and it works with my Samsung Galaxy Note 2.
Your phone needs to be already bluetooth paired.
It must also support A2DP.
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Select Bluetooth.
Your phone should be connected at this time.
There is a "Mobile media" button on the upper left.
Click that.
The sound will be streamed to the car's audio when you select a song on your mobile phone directly.
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Refer to page 25 and 26 of the instruction booklet for the "Mobile media" button location.

Thanks bro, it worked finally after a couple of months being clueless..
The wordings for Mobile Media is tiny.. Wouldn't know if you didn't point it out.. Hehe..

Edited by MLS, 24 December 2014 - 10:49 PM.

Thanks bro, it worked finally after a couple of months being clueless..
The wordings for Mobile Media is tiny.. Wouldn't know if you didn't point it out.. Hehe..

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On my screen brightness question, it seems auto set based on ambient lighting.

Brightness went down to 50% at night, and could go up to 100% in the day.

I guess, I answered my own question.

I have a new question on the HU.

What is the purpose of setting different values under Apps > Audio > Advance?

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I itchy finger pressed default. All values became 0, only the chime stayed at 5dB.

Anyone can share the values that comes with the delivery of your car?

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I have a new question on the HU.
What is the purpose of setting different values under Apps > Audio > Advance?
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I itchy finger pressed default. All values became 0, only the chime stayed at 5dB.
Anyone can share the values that comes with the delivery of your car?
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The default settings are all values parked in the middle.

I've almost maxed out my bass settings.. Slightly better but the punch is not exactly fantastic :)

The default settings are all values parked in the middle.

I've almost maxed out my bass settings.. Slightly better but the punch is not exactly fantastic :)

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I don't mean the 3 vertical bars.

If you click on Advance button, there is one more page with lots of numerical values.

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I don't mean the 3 vertical bars.

If you click on Advance button, there is one more page with lots of numerical values.

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Kia Service Center responded.

Sharing the image for benefit of others.

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what accessories or upgrade did you guys installed on your K3?

what accessories or upgrade did you guys installed on your K3?

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storage box on left and right side of boot cavity behind rear wheel.

door and seat guard mat to prevent damage to the plastic when we get in and out of car.

a mesh in front of radiator to prevent trash and stones from getting stuck and hitting the radiator fins.

to protect, not 'zng'.

Edited by Kiat626, 07 January 2015 - 08:46 AM.

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storage box on left and right side of boot cavity behind rear wheel.

door and seat guard mat to prevent damage to the plastic when we get in and out of car.

a mesh in front of radiator to prevent trash and stones from getting stuck and hitting the radiator fins.

to protect, not 'zng'.

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love the storage box... was looking at it now. Where did you get it?? I saw it from aliexpress.. not cheap..

I have a question on the day running light which turn on once u start the engine.
Anyone can share how to turn it off?
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I have a question on the day running light which turn on once u start the engine.
Anyone can share how to turn it off?
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Unfortunately, don't think you can turn it off once the car is started.

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love the storage box... was looking at it now. Where did you get it?? I saw it from aliexpress.. not cheap..

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I bought at http://detail.tmall....14.12193480.0.0

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About 2kg of volumetric weight.

Ship by sea if you can wait.

Hi Guys,

Just to say hello. Just booked a K3 last weekend and looking forward to collect the car soon.

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I bought at http://detail.tmall....14.12193480.0.0

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About 2kg of volumetric weight.

Ship by sea if you can wait.

Thanks for sharing.

Any links for the 'door and seat guard mat' and 'mesh'�too?

Hi Guys,

Just to say hello. Just booked a K3 last weekend and looking forward to collect the car soon.

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Great!

Welcome!! [:)]

Thanks for sharing.

Any links for the 'door and seat guard mat' and 'mesh'�too?

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Great!

Welcome!!

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I bought the door and seat guard with the 'set meal' package.

http://detail.tmall....14.12193480.0.0

Do highlight your model come with rear air con vent because the chat agent asked for clarification when I was enquiring.

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I will be looking for a new seller for the mesh.

The seller failed to fulfil the order.
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Edited by Kiat626, 08 January 2015 - 12:09 PM.

Unfortunately, don't think you can turn it off once the car is started.

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Yup, unfortunately cannot be turn off

Hi Guys,

Just to say hello. Just booked a K3 last weekend and looking forward to collect the car soon.

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Welcome aboard.. [thumbsup]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for the warm welcome!

Just to check with you guys, do you have any bad experience on the rikecool solar film installation done by C&C? I am a little worried after reading the feedback at :
http://www.sgcarmart...s.php?MID=10978

Hi Guys,

Thanks for the warm welcome!

Just to check with you guys, do you have any bad experience on the rikecool solar film installation done by C&C? I am a little worried after reading the feedback at :
http://www.sgcarmart...s.php?MID=10978

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Since my is free and still new.. very hard for me to comment. If you are worried, maybe you can negotiate with your SE to see if he/she can provide other brands of your choice with top-up?

Hi Guys,

Thanks for the warm welcome!

Just to check with you guys, do you have any bad experience on the rikecool solar film installation done by C&C? I am a little worried after reading the feedback at :
http://www.sgcarmart...s.php?MID=10978

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The installation is done before delivery. So making appointment and interaction with Rikecool does not apply to you.

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Bound to have some bubbles. Live with it as long it is not staring at you right in front of the windscreen.

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My believe is the package offered through C&C will pass inspection. I will only find out 3 years later [sweatdrop] .

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Having solar film is still better than not having them. Save you future trouble of installing on your own.

Hi Hybridcar and Kiat626,

Thanks for your advices. I think will just see how it turns out since it is "FOC". Worse case, will redo it elsewhere.

Hi Guys; I got damn bad radio reception..any ideas how to improve it? Thanks

as i am still within 1,000km, and before the 1st servicing, I am almost touching 9l/100km. Not too good. It should only get better after servicing.

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I managed to get 6.5l/100km after using 82% of my 2nd tank on RON92.

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Based on trip meter:

Average speed: 41km/h.

Distance covered: 615km.

Time lapsed: 16:12 hrs

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About 80-90% highway driving with smooth traffic.

Keep a reasonable distance to mimimize brake accelation need.

Roll to stop without hogging.

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Mine is EX so comes with 205/55R16. I read articles smaller rim return better FC.

Pray hard this FC stays, if not get better.

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I managed to get 6.5l/100km after using 82% of my 2nd tank on RON92.

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Based on trip meter:

Average speed: 41km/h.

Distance covered: 615km.

Time lapsed: 16:12 hrs

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About 80-90% highway driving with smooth traffic.

Keep a reasonable distance to mimimize brake accelation need.

Roll to stop without hogging.

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Mine is EX so comes with 205/55R16. I read articles smaller rim return better FC.

Pray hard this FC stays, if not get better.

Hey, that's fantastic consumption figures you got there.

i think my figures are stabilizing at 8.0l/100km. you using 92?? maybe i should try also.

Ah, the smaller tyres sure help. I am stuck with 17".
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Hey, that's fantastic consumption figures you got there.

i think my figures are stabilizing at 8.0l/100km. you using 92?? maybe i should try also.

Ah, the smaller tyres sure help. I am stuck with 17".
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Yes, I switched to 92 after pumping 1st tank with 95.

Today is my 3rd tank and I continued with 92.

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I don't buy the idea of 95 being a "better petrol" when owner manual says 91 is the minimum; and based on the fact that RON is meant to prevent detonation.

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My route and high percentage of highway definitely helped.

I am using 92 as well.

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C&C is stating minimum of 95 although the owner manual claims 91 as acceptable. Had confirmed with KIA malaysia that all KIA vehicle currently can take 92.

When I had my GD1, I pumped 92. It went on for some time without problem.�

Then one day, the cel indicator lit up. I sent the car in for check. They scanned and found the O2 sensor was faulty. They reset it and the cel indicator went off. I paid $60 for the service. Later, the problem returned. The Mechs could not do anything.

I changed to RON 95. The problem disappeared!

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Yes, I switched to 92 after pumping 1st tank with 95.

Today is my 3rd tank and I continued with 92.

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I don't buy the idea of 95 being a "better petrol" when owner manual says 91 is the minimum; and based on the fact that RON is meant to prevent detonation.

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My route and high percentage of highway definitely helped.

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like many here,� i buy at my convenient petrol station which is Shell. Will try out ESSO for the Ron92. Maybe i can save a few cents. [nod]
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I don't know can this question apply to SX because I'm driving an EX with manual air con.

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My idle rpm is 700 when I set the blower speed to 1 or 2.

Idle rpm will step up to 900 when I set the blower speed to 3 or 4.

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Is this the same observation by the EX bros?

Edited by Kiat626, 13 January 2015 - 08:10 PM.

When I had my GD1, I pumped 92. It went on for some time without problem.�

Then one day, the cel indicator lit up. I sent the car in for check. They scanned and found the O2 sensor was faulty. They reset it and the cel indicator went off. I paid $60 for the service. Later, the problem returned. The Mechs could not do anything.

I changed to RON 95. The problem disappeared!

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What is the minimum RON your owner manual stated?

I don't know can this question apply to SX because I'm driving an EX with manual air con.

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My idle rpm is 700 when I set the blower speed to 1 or 2.

Idle rpm will step up to 900 when I set the blower speed to 3 or 4.

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Is this the same observation by the EX bros?

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Hi. i also have similar sympton on my K3. Idle went up to around 900rpm at speed 3 and 4.

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Not sure is this a fault ?

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Any other k3 owner have similar experience...

It is normal,modern cars idling speed adjust itself,depends on the load of the alternator,compressor,as long as not over 1000 rpm..then it is normal.

It is normal,modern cars idling speed adjust itself,depends on the load of the alternator,compressor,as long as not over 1000 rpm..then it is normal.

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oh, even alternator load is taken into account now.

that explains. [thumbsup]

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oh, even alternator load is taken into account now.

that explains.

Yes,because Car Mfg knew now owners will complain if the car's vibrations are too much,so they make the idling speed adjust itself,so less vibration is felt.

Can I ask... Why did you guys choose K3 over Elantra? I'm caught between the two now...

Can I ask... Why did you guys choose K3 over Elantra? I'm caught between the two now...

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Based on emo, good and want to have features.

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Emo:

Prefer K3's design in and out.

Just could not appreciate Elantra's center console design and steering wheel.

Have to see and touch every day, so got to like it.

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Felt Elantra cabin sounded noiser and more vibration than K3 during test drive.

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Features:

Not fair cos for some, one have but the other not.

For preferred and can close one eye (can live without) feature, K3 gained more.

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Actually features is to convince myself that I make a sensible choice.

If K3 had a K5 center console and steering wheel, I may have settled for Elantra.

Edited by Kiat626, 18 January 2015 - 08:15 AM.

Anybody here sold the stock 215/45-17 tyres.?I need 2 pcs,one piece "swollen",after hitting kerb. [furious]

Anybody here sold the stock 215/45-17 tyres.?I need 2 pcs,one piece "swollen",after hitting kerb.

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are you using the spare tyre now? The size is quite common. most tyre shops should stock it.
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are you using the spare tyre now? The size is quite common. most tyre shops should stock it.
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I know it is a common size,but i don't wish to spend too much on good tyre,my brother driving very KAYU... [thumbsdown]

Can I ask... Why did you guys choose K3 over Elantra? I'm caught between the two now...

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love at first sight, addicted after test drive... [sunny]

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I think more important is how you feel and what is more important to you. There are good and bad for any car makes and model.

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hint: did you find any K3 in used car section??

For me, everyday i feel good when driving it ..the cockpit and car overall outlook is trendy and not so "Ah Pek" look.

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Though i knew that fuel consumption may not be the best.

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I still choose Kia...

For me, everyday i feel good when driving it ..the cockpit and car overall outlook is trendy and not so "Ah Pek" look.

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Though i knew that fuel consumption may not be the best.

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I still choose Kia...

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You can get 12km/l
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love at first sight, addicted after test drive...
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I think more important is how you feel and what is more important to you. There are good and bad for any car makes and model.
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hint: did you find any K3 in used car section??

and the headlight is strong too, shown on the pic, one malay chap hit the headlight until his subaru dented after cutting in my lane. The headlight cover is as strong as subaru car body, if not stronger!

Any k3 owner install the door Visor

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Please share where did you buy it.. price ??

Any k3 owner install the door Visor

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Please share where did you buy it.. price ??

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not installing it but come across from online store like taobao, aliexpress and ebay... [;)]

Just to share with you guys... Do you agree with him??

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http://www.mycarforu...2014/?p=5396655

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Just to share with you guys... Do you agree with him??

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http://www.mycarforu...2014/?p=5396655

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sounds really like a die-hard toyota fan whom, can't accept any other cars until he/she really try other cars.

Edited by Yuguangr, 24 January 2015 - 10:47 PM.

Just to share with you guys... Do you agree with him??

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http://www.mycarforu...2014/?p=5396655

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That guy? No point rebutting there. I will post what he posted here and add my POV:

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I think by now most Japanese and Conti car owners do not choose kimchi because
1) Bad FC. Do do trust their paperwork. I am getting 12.5km/l.
2) Bad resale. i sold my Koup previously at 9k/yr. Decent to me. It was sold in 2 weeks. so people were prepared to pay >$9k/yr for it.
3) Bad sound proofing. My existing G10 Altis soundproof is no good, do I have to buy a worse car? The K3 is quiet to me. Recently i was seated behind my friend who test droved a J car. I felt that my K3 was quieter. Cannot say for my Koup (noisier)
4) Bad finishing. Plastic interior start to vibrate 3 year onwards. Did not happen to my Koup which i drove for 4.5 years.
5) Bad gearbox. K cars are not known for their investment in R&D. Borrowed tech from last decade. Never had any problems with my gearbox. WW2 gearboxes can be reliable.
6) Bad pricing. They cost abt 5-10K diff compare to Jap cars. K OMV is comparable to Japanese and sells about $5-$10k cheaper.
7) Bad priced parts. Cheap cars don't come with cheap parts huh? That i dont know - never had to replace any parts that i need to pay. 5 year unlimited warranty - which J cars do that? Now Kia has 10 year Engine and 5 year unlimited warranty. Which J car give that? In Europe, Kia gave 7 years warranty, the last i checked. Confidence?
9) Bad paintwork. If you put same colour paint work with jap car you see the diff. Even a Jazz is better. I dont know but my Koup looked good even after 4 years - no i say one - my colleagues and friends did.
10)Bad quality. If you plan to drive more than 5 years. Be prepare to pay more for maintenance. I hope not because i plan to keep the K3 for > 5 years.

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That poster is just sharing information from his friends/colleagues. May be true, may be false. I feel that K cars are no different from J cars, based on my visits to both J and K car showrooms.

Perhaps some readings (last 3 years) can help interested readers out:

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http://wot.motortren...nds-344551.html

http://www.carsguide...se-brands-25430

http://www.cbsnews.c...nsumer-reports/

https://www.moneyadv...ble-cars-to-own

(in 2012)

http://www.japantoda...-to-south-korea

http://www.carsguide...78#.VMOtgy7QNsg

http://www.wired.com...-the-new-japan/

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Like what i said in another post, The Toyotal Altis was the other finalist for me when i considered changing car. At that point, the Altis was $10k more expensive than my K3(SX). I felt that the K3 had slightly more features as i did not do a direct comparison. Altis probably gave better consumption figures (1-2km more per liter, i believe)

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Just checked - the Altis is $127,888 and the KIA(SX) is $114,000 if you have a car to trade in. Else is $120,000. The min difference is $7.9 k and max is $13.9k (disregarding scrap and CEVS)

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For me, I'm only disagree to some point he/she pointed out.

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Altis is a great car for me to agree.

FC on K3 not best for me compare to others similar ride, but at least K3 does not "drink" fuel like nobody business� [:p]

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I have 1 friend who I know closely drove Kia Cerato until scrap, now also change to K3.

Another friend drove Kia Forte for more than 5 years, no issue according to him. Serve him well.

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And another relative, drove a Hyundai Avante. I have not heard any problem from him. In fact, his previous ride is Hyundai Matrix.

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I'm a bit skeptical to buy K3 initially, considering buying car in Singapore is big commitment.

K3 is a huge upgrade from my previous Vios definitely.

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Enjoying my K3 since day 1

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And nice article link you shared� [thumbsup]

Edited by Hybridcar, 24 January 2015 - 11:06 PM.

Definitely do not agree with the person on K cars view. Every own has it's good & bad. It was quite a heated argument and same thing happen in vezel forum as well. Everyone buy car based on his/her preference & budget.

I noticed when I ease on the accelerator at ~70kph, ~2100rpm and 5th gear, trans will upshift to 6th gear; i just try to control an earlier upshift which would have otherwise automatically happen pretty soon.

Now if I let go of the accelerator instead, rpm will drop to ~1200rpm. Trans also upshifted to 6th gear.

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I have no complains since lower rpm means lesser fuel consumption and I can be coasting a while at this speed.

I am just curious does that mean the trans went into Neutral?

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Many articles advise against slowing down in Neutral as this could hurt the trans.

Very interested in how things work and keep up to date on new technology development that can turn old facts into myths.

Edited by Kiat626, 25 January 2015 - 09:23 AM.

That guy? No point rebutting there. I will post what he posted here and add my POV:

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I think by now most Japanese and Conti car owners do not choose kimchi because
1) Bad FC. Do do trust their paperwork. I am getting 12.5km/l.
2) Bad resale. i sold my Koup previously at 9k/yr. Decent to me. It was sold in 2 weeks. so people were prepared to pay >$9k/yr for it.
3) Bad sound proofing. My existing G10 Altis soundproof is no good, do I have to buy a worse car? The K3 is quiet to me. Recently i was seated behind my friend who test droved a J car. I felt that my K3 was quieter. Cannot say for my Koup (noisier)
4) Bad finishing. Plastic interior start to vibrate 3 year onwards. Did not happen to my Koup which i drove for 4.5 years.
5) Bad gearbox. K cars are not known for their investment in R&D. Borrowed tech from last decade. Never had any problems with my gearbox. WW2 gearboxes can be reliable.
6) Bad pricing. They cost abt 5-10K diff compare to Jap cars. K OMV is comparable to Japanese and sells about $5-$10k cheaper.
7) Bad priced parts. Cheap cars don't come with cheap parts huh? That i dont know - never had to replace any parts that i need to pay. 5 year unlimited warranty - which J cars do that? Now Kia has 10 year Engine and 5 year unlimited warranty. Which J car give that? In Europe, Kia gave 7 years warranty, the last i checked. Confidence?
9) Bad paintwork. If you put same colour paint work with jap car you see the diff. Even a Jazz is better. I dont know but my Koup looked good even after 4 years - no i say one - my colleagues and friends did.
10)Bad quality. If you plan to drive more than 5 years. Be prepare to pay more for maintenance. I hope not because i plan to keep the K3 for > 5 years.

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That poster is just sharing information from his friends/colleagues. May be true, may be false. I feel that K cars are no different from J cars, based on my visits to both J and K car showrooms.

Perhaps some readings (last 3 years) can help interested readers out:

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http://wot.motortren...nds-344551.html

http://www.carsguide...se-brands-25430

http://www.cbsnews.c...nsumer-reports/

https://www.moneyadv...ble-cars-to-own

(in 2012)

http://www.japantoda...-to-south-korea

http://www.carsguide...78#.VMOtgy7QNsg

http://www.wired.com...-the-new-japan/

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Like what i said in another post, The Toyotal Altis was the other finalist for me when i considered changing car. At that point, the Altis was $10k more expensive than my K3(SX). I felt that the K3 had slightly more features as i did not do a direct comparison. Altis probably gave better consumption figures (1-2km more per liter, i believe)

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Just checked - the Altis is $127,888 and the KIA(SX) is $114,000 if you have a car to trade in. Else is $120,000. The min difference is $7.9 k and max is $13.9k (disregarding scrap and CEVS)

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Feedback also comes from branding perception.

You buy a more accepted brand, when things break down, it's known as normal wear and tear.

You buy a less accepted brand, when things break down, it's a lousy product.� [grin] �

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I just find it interesting people can accept korean IT/Electronics over japanese brands. But less so with cars.

Edited by Kiat626, 25 January 2015 - 09:46 AM.

Definitely do not agree with the person on K cars view. Every own has it's good & bad. It was quite a heated argument and same thing happen in vezel forum as well. Everyone buy car based on his/her preference & budget.

Ya, agree with you. Vezel is a nice car too. I was looking at few cars when I purchased my K3. Altis, Mazda 3, Jetta, Sylphy and including Vezel. Too bad Vezel from PI only.. a bit scare for me :).

Ya, agree with you. Vezel is a nice car too. I was looking at few cars when I purchased my K3. Altis, Mazda 3, Jetta, Sylphy and including Vezel. Too bad Vezel from PI only.. a bit scare for me :).

is AD bringing in the Vezel? they should considering the popularity

Ya, agree with you. Vezel is a nice car too. I was looking at few cars when I purchased my K3. Altis, Mazda 3, Jetta, Sylphy and including Vezel. Too bad Vezel from PI only.. a bit scare for me :).

When I was choosing my car last year, K3 was my finalist. Dam impress with the features, super like the tail light, motorized driver seat, day light running lights, controls at sterling wheels ... etc & with the warranty throw in. Tough choice. But wife prefer SUV so no choice, she is the home minister & CFO. Lolx.

Heard that KM will bring in HRV, vezel equilivent but no spec yet. Anyway, bros here enjoy your rides & be safe.

Edited by Dino-Lee, 25 January 2015 - 10:05 PM.

When I was choosing my car last year, K3 was my finalist. Dam impress with the features, super like the tail light, motorized driver seat, day light running lights, controls at sterling wheels ... etc & with the warranty throw in. Tough choice. But wife prefer SUV so no choice, she is the home minister & CFO. Lolx.

Heard that KM will bring in HRV, vezel equilivent but no spec yet. Anyway, bros here enjoy your rides & be safe.

You did right by listening to your wife. [grouphug]

i did the same too. Both Altis and the K3 were our favorites but the price set the K3 ahead.
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When I was choosing my car last year, K3 was my finalist. Dam impress with the features, super like the tail light, motorized driver seat, day light running lights, controls at sterling wheels ... etc & with the warranty throw in. Tough choice. But wife prefer SUV so no choice, she is the home minister & CFO. Lolx.

Heard that KM will bring in HRV, vezel equilivent but no spec yet. Anyway, bros here enjoy your rides & be safe.

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Agree with SimpleCar, do not challenge your CFO... lol. But still, Vezel is a very good choice

is AD bringing in the Vezel? they should considering the popularity

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Ya, as mention by Dino, AD bring in as HR-V. But I heard HR-V is using different engine than the one in Vezel.

i thought of leasing a K3 1.6 SX but i doubt my application will be successful.

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Hi, do you know is there any "find my car" feature for k3?
When I press and hold the remote lock button, only can see the car lights flashes but no sound....
If sound required need send car outside workshop for modification?

Hi, do you know is there any "find my car" feature for k3?
When I press and hold the remote lock button, only can see the car lights flashes but no sound....
If sound required need send car outside workshop for modification?

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K3 is not fitted with alarm.

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K3 is not fitted with alarm.

So also no theft alarm?

So also no theft alarm?

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That's right.
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So also no theft alarm?

Only Immobilizer...

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Want alarm.... need to install outside..

Hi, do you know is there any "find my car" feature for k3?
When I press and hold the remote lock button, only can see the car lights flashes but no sound....
If sound required need send car outside workshop for modification?

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I think this feature�only available in Korea...

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In Korea, they even can remotely start the K3 engine using application install on the phone...

So also no theft alarm?

The horn will activate if u didnt not disarm ur vehicle. like using ur keys to open the door.

Roughly How long is the waiting period for K3 ?

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Anyone can enlighten ?

Roughly How long is the waiting period for K3 ?

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Anyone can enlighten ?

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I think it depend on the colour availability that you choose... some less than a month... Mine approximately 3 months

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SE will inform you that

is price posted on sgcarmart always more than showroom price?�

Edited by james_zc, 16 February 2015 - 03:07 PM.

is price posted on sgcarmart always more than showroom price?�

possible, there could be promotion which is not shown. best to check with dealers directly

Roughly How long is the waiting period for K3 ?

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Anyone can enlighten ?

check with SE for what is the ready stocks available or next shipment.

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Mine took less than 2 weeks from signing to COE and registration to collection.

Thanks for the feed backs, From a few reply and review on this car seem like delivery are considerable quite ok .�

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Hybridcar�- > yours waited slightly longer compare the rest was it due to color ? As I remember I did a small survey in Mid 2014 Kia Sales was sluggish mainly due to delayed consolidation shipment , even SA at that time told me to wait longer not due to Q but due to shipment.�

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I presume most of you guys took up 6 bid instead of 1st bid guarantee.

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Anyway�K3 still best value in its category. �Seriously thinking K3 or M3....�

Thanks for the feed backs, From a few reply and review on this car seem like delivery are considerable quite ok .�

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Hybridcar�- > yours waited slightly longer compare the rest was it due to color ? As I remember I did a small survey in Mid 2014 Kia Sales was sluggish mainly due to delayed consolidation shipment , even SA at that time told me to wait longer not due to Q but due to shipment.�

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I presume most of you guys took up 6 bid instead of 1st bid guarantee.

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Anyway�K3 still best value in its category. �Seriously thinking K3 or M3....�

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Hi, mine is due to colour. Golden Beat was not ready stock so I gotta wait. During that time, I wasn't rush for a new ride.

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Mostly I know are 6 bids. As told frankly by my SE, no need as he is sure will get the COE.

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I believe sluggish sales also due to a lot of new model introduce during the end of 2014.. M3, Altis, Qashqai, Vezel... etc..

Thanks for the feed backs, From a few reply and review on this car seem like delivery are considerable quite ok .�

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Hybridcar�- > yours waited slightly longer compare the rest was it due to color ? As I remember I did a small survey in Mid 2014 Kia Sales was sluggish mainly due to delayed consolidation shipment , even SA at that time told me to wait longer not due to Q but due to shipment.�

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I presume most of you guys took up 6 bid instead of 1st bid guarantee.

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Anyway�K3 still best value in its category. �Seriously thinking K3 or M3....�

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Mine was ready stock.

Got it in the 1st bidding.

Last year there was only 1 package (6 bid COE) with non-guaranteed T&C.

Thanks for the feed backs, From a few reply and review on this car seem like delivery are considerable quite ok .�

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Hybridcar�- > yours waited slightly longer compare the rest was it due to color ? As I remember I did a small survey in Mid 2014 Kia Sales was sluggish mainly due to delayed consolidation shipment , even SA at that time told me to wait longer not due to Q but due to shipment.�

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I presume most of you guys took up 6 bid instead of 1st bid guarantee.

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Anyway�K3 still best value in its category. �Seriously thinking K3 or M3....�

Tested slyphy altis, k3 and m3.

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Mazda 3 has no rear aircon. The plastic looks hard. Engine is abit noisy with poor insulation. Nevertheless, still a good looking b&b sedan. I like the suspension. The rest in the segment are too soft.

Tested slyphy altis, k3 and m3.

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Mazda 3 has no rear aircon. The plastic looks hard. Engine is abit noisy with poor insulation. Nevertheless, still a good looking b&b sedan. I like the suspension. The rest in the segment are too soft.

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Yup... I'm looking for one with rear aircon vent when I'm scouting for a new car.

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Previous Vios I had do not have this. Wifey always complain behind very warm.

Wifey also complain back seat room small for Vios.

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Since Mazda 3 also don't have rear aircon, back seat also not roomy enough... so, we settle for K3.. Price also more attractive.

Although I have to say Mazda 3 is really nice looking car. [;)]

Edited by Hybridcar, 17 February 2015 - 10:30 AM.

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Yup... I'm looking for one with rear aircon vent when I'm scouting for a new car.

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Previous Vios I had do not have this. Wifey always complain behind very warm.

Wifey also complain back seat room small for Vios.

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Since Mazda 3 also don't have rear aircon, back seat also not roomy enough... so, we settle for K3.. Price also more attractive.

Although I have to say Mazda 3 is really nice looking car.

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I am in the same situation as yours , Current Vios ... waiting to EOL .

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Other passenger did complain behind was warm - so rear air-con is really one of the consideration.

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The only diff is Wife prefer M3's design , one more thing is the Fuel economy .

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Btw any of you did paint protection & tinting ? any recommendation or do it in JB instead ?

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What's the current running plate anybody knows ?

Can I say that for K3, under 100% peak hour non-highway driving, the worst it gets is 10km per litre?

Ya rear aircon is also a consideration for my family. �The basic K3 like the 1.6 NA Syl has that.

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I am in the same situation as yours , Current Vios ... waiting to EOL .

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Other passenger did complain behind was warm - so rear air-con is really one of the consideration.

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The only diff is Wife prefer M3's design , one more thing is the Fuel economy .

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Btw any of you did paint protection & tinting ? any recommendation or do it in JB instead ?

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What's the current running plate anybody knows ?

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I did PPS for my car..

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As for FC... Mazda 3�is indeed better than K3. But the price difference did not make any significant advantage, at least to me.

Can I say that for K3, under 100% peak hour non-highway driving, the worst it gets is 10km per litre?

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Maybe close to that... But I'm not really sure.

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Everyone know K3 FC is not the best as compare to others ride in the market currently.

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Anyway, although I'm driving a K3 now... if FC is your main concern, stay away. Definitely there are much better like Vezel and Mazda 3..

Edited by Hybridcar, 17 February 2015 - 11:07 AM.

So a K car 1.6NA/AT, so long as worse case scenario is 10km/Litre, I am ok. :). �Though with Mix driving, 11-12km/Litre would be nice.�

Looking for something with decent covered in metal protection, does not float at 100kmh. �Occupant safety, rear aircon, kana rear ended safety for rear occupants.

http://www.sgcarmart...p?CarCode=11322

Pricing is competitive. �However, looking at the Premium %, its much lower that Jap cars. �My believe its still the same business model. �Sell competitively, but parts cost more.

OT : Oh my ws said that these day, for Cat A Nissan cars, the prices for parts seem to have gone up. �Looking at the retail prices of Nissan, Toyota, Honda,.......Nissan may appear to be trying adopt the Korean business model...

So a K car 1.6NA/AT, so long as worse case scenario is 10km/Litre, I am ok. :). �Though with Mix driving, 11-12km/Litre would be nice.�

most of the time its 10.xx, I get 11.xx at times. I have hitted 8.xx also, but that also happened on my vios previously. :P Depend on mood on my right foot.

most of the time its 10.xx, I get 11.xx at times. I have hitted 8.xx also, but that also happened on my vios previously. :P Depend on mood on my right foot.

Thats assuring enuff. :) �Thanks.

Thats assuring enuff. :) �Thanks.

[;)]

Tested slyphy altis, k3 and m3.

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Mazda 3 has no rear aircon. The plastic looks hard. Engine is abit noisy with poor insulation. Nevertheless, still a good looking b&b sedan. I like the suspension. The rest in the segment are too soft.

i felt the same about the MZ3 in terms of engine noise. I suppose this can be mitigated by diy insulation etc.

most of the time its 10.xx, I get 11.xx at times. I have hitted 8.xx also, but that also happened on my vios previously. :P Depend on mood on my right foot.

The K3 can do 8l/km for me as i travel on 80% highway.

Looking for something with decent covered in metal protection, does not float at 100kmh. �Occupant safety, rear aircon, kana rear ended safety for rear occupants.

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Continentals or those xovers?
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Guess something that weighs ~1200kg should b ok.

Guess something that weighs ~1200kg should b ok.

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since you are in this thread, the K3 is 1.3 tonnes. have you shortlisted your choices?
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since you are in this thread, the K3 is 1.3 tonnes. have you shortlisted your choices?
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Not quite yet. Had a policy shift towards safety / sturdiness / ....but still want at least 10 per litre in city traffic.

Not quite yet. Had a policy shift towards safety / sturdiness / ....but still want at least 10 per litre in city traffic.

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with COE going south, you can surely wait a little longer. 10km per liter? You are spoiled for choice.
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Perception is like reputation - they take time to grow.

http://www.theglobea...rticle19935282/

advertisement and good vibes also do wonders.

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The above link has a good story about K cars.

This car come with electronic parking brake or manual hand brake.
Can existing owner confirm?

manual hand brake

manual hand brake

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OK. Thanks.

Went to the Kia showroom yesterday, 22 Feb. Crowed with viewers and buyers.

Price is $94K EX model, after "CNY bonus".

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The conditions are: Take loan and insurance with them, plus you must a car to trade-in in order

to be entitled to buy at $94K. Booking fee is $10K,� $5K booking fee �and $10K as deposit for COE bidding.

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Me, I do have a car to trade-in but I and intend to book�for one,�the SE said he will, the usual wayang,�"talk to the manager". Told him that not all customers has a car to trade in and some

are buying another car for their spouse, etc..

The answer, no can do.

Told the SE too bad for them. I will visit Borneo motor and Kah motor on Tuesday 24 Feb.

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i felt the same about the MZ3 in terms of engine noise. I suppose this can be mitigated by diy insulation etc.

The K3 can do 8l/km for me as i travel on 80% highway.

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Continentals or those xovers?
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Huh? How come is same as my Sunny so jialat? :huh:

Not quite yet. Had a policy shift towards safety / sturdiness / ....but still want at least 10 per litre in city traffic.

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Scared what. your golf is the safest lol, no need to change choice haha

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with COE going south, you can surely wait a little longer. 10km per liter? You are spoiled for choice.
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8L / 100km = approx 12.5km per litre. �Sounds in line with the 10-12 km / Litre depending on CIty or Highway driving.

PS : ur on 16 or 17 inch tyres?

The consensus on K5 2.0 is largely 8-10km / Litre by the same criterias?

Edited by Baal, 23 February 2015 - 02:44 PM.

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Scared what. your golf is the safest lol, no need to change choice haha

Dr, dont like that. �Later my AL run out, I have to find you to get MC.� [sly] �

If VCS says need 3 days to fix MU, I see you, u gif me 3 days MC ?� �

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Went to the Kia showroom yesterday, 22 Feb. Crowed with viewers and buyers.

Price is $94K EX model, after "CNY bonus".

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The conditions are: Take loan and insurance with them, plus you must a car to trade-in in order

to be entitled to buy at $94K. Booking fee is $10K,� $5K booking fee �and $10K as deposit for COE bidding.

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Me, I do have a car to trade-in but I and intend to book�for one,�the SE said he will, the usual wayang,�"talk to the manager". Told him that not all customers has a car to trade in and some

are buying another car for their spouse, etc..

The answer, no can do.

Told the SE too bad for them. I will visit Borneo motor and Kah motor on Tuesday 24 Feb.

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Nice, don be taken in by the SE BS. Cycle&C will looking at their booking over next weekend. If the booking is weak, the SE will call you to tell you usually no can do but the manager find you very handsome and willing to give you special if you come down today. �

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