mycarforum: KIA K3 Owners check-in! part 14

The Kia K3 hill-start assist is awesome. I only got to know how it works recently

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till today I'm still don't know how to activate it... lol

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Btw, Kia K3 are still the most discuss topic in Korean section ... [thumbsup]

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(*Inclusive of kena shoot post.... [rifle] �)... lol

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till today I'm still don't know how to activate it... lol

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Btw, Kia K3 are still the most discuss topic in Korean section ...

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hahaha careful ah...someone will come in to shoot you for that statement.

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hahaha careful ah...someone will come in to shoot you for that statement.

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hahaha... we all get used to it already don't we :)

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till today I'm still don't know how to activate it... lol

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Btw, Kia K3 are still the most discuss topic in Korean section ...

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(*Inclusive of kena shoot post.... �)... lol

Come to a complete stop on a slope.

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Let go on your brakes, you will see that your Forte wont roll backwards

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The hill start assist will disengaged itself the moment you step on the gas.

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The most impt point to note that you MUST step on the brakes to come to a complete stop. Rolling to a stop is�NOT counted and the system wont be engaged.

Come to a complete stop on a slope.

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Let go on your brakes, you will see that your Forte wont roll backwards

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The hill start assist will disengaged itself the moment you step on the gas.

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The most impt point to note that you MUST step on the brakes to come to a complete stop. Rolling to a stop is�NOT counted and the system wont be engaged.

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Wow... thanks. Will give it a try.. (if no car behind.. [:p] �) [thumbsup]

I am looking at k3 as my next car.. Just curious, where do you get the facts or derive that k3 safety is better than mazda 3 and altis? Thanks.

I guess 7hm has listed the comparisons.

Personally, as a family man. 6 airbags is definitely a must. Safety vs cost wise, for K3 I do not have to top-up more.. 1price for every features u ever need as a driver, couldn't ask for more =D

Btw anybody interested to do PPS. 3cars for the price of 2 ($800 for 3cars) 1 of the advertisers in detailing section. PM if interested to do tog =>

Edited by Maomao82, 23 June 2015 - 04:09 PM.

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pretty much I opt to just pump whatever is manufacturer recommended minimum; it's been proven by a lot of independents that a high octane fuel is just extra money for little benefit, but a fuel with an insufficient octane rating can damage your engine even if it doesn't affect performance.

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If it's down to additives, I do have access to a mixture I trust a lot

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and somehow the car's OMV is still sort of high... with their margin ~$8k?

But I believe the min recc is also after taking into account the ignition timing retard.

K cars adopt a different business model. �Which is a good move if market penetration is their priority.�

Come to a complete stop on a slope.

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Let go on your brakes, you will see that your Forte wont roll backwards

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The hill start assist will disengaged itself the moment you step on the gas.

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The most impt point to note that you MUST step on the brakes to come to a complete stop. Rolling to a stop is�NOT counted and the system wont be engaged.

Good Info.

Yes..

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Personally 2c worth

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Looks: M3 wins. >> K3 Overall better den Altis (prefer the ass, but front cmi)�� 3.88/5

Room Space: K3�~ = Altis maybe rear passenger slightly bigger & no hump)�>>�M3 jitao small...�� 4/5

Interior: M3 = Conti style,tasteful styling, K3 decent, Altis CMI��3.5/5

Price: K3 wins hand down... Altis & M3 smell smoke�� 5/5

Features: K3 wins hand down... Altis & M3 smell smoke�� 5/5

Safety: K3 >> M3/Altis��(given same price)��4.5/5��

Trade in (AD):��M3>K3>Altis��4/5

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+ Good Service (the best among all other AD I went) + Good Discount��5/5

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Sign on paper... No questions asked

One negative , if I use my Sportage (current model) as a yardstick , could be the stocking/availability of parts. I had to wait between 4-6 weeks for some parts to arrive, for eg the side mirror motor (6 weeks and that too with lots of chasing). They do not even keep a single piece in stock for a current model. I ended up having a long email exchange on this issue with Kia. I believe I could have got the parts faster if I had gone directly to local Kia spare parts stockist ,Min Ghee, but I could not as it was under warranty.

Maybe with the K3 being their most popular model, this might not be an issue.

Hi all!

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Newbie here. Am shopping around to replace my dad's Mitsubishi Lancer EX 2007 model and among the cars we have looked at, the K3 comes to mind.

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Would appreciate your fellow input and comments on Lancer 2015 vs Kia K3 2015 vs Toyota Altis 2015.

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These are the 3 cars that my family have zoomed in on.

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To be honest, the initial plan is to just get the newer Lancer, but now with other choices available at the same price range, not so concrete.

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Thanks all!

Among the 3, personally prefer K3 (which i test drive last week). Altis is like 15-20% more in terms of price. K3 only sightly more ex than lancer but looks better and appear to have more features. just my view. �

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Hi all!

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Newbie here. Am shopping around to replace my dad's Mitsubishi Lancer EX 2007 model and among the cars we have looked at, the K3 comes to mind.

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Would appreciate your fellow input and comments on Lancer 2015 vs Kia K3 2015 vs Toyota Altis 2015.

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These are the 3 cars that my family have zoomed in on.

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To be honest, the initial plan is to just get the newer Lancer, but now with other choices available at the same price range, not so concrete.

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Thanks all!

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Thanks for the reply.

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I have seen from previous posts the comparisons between K3, Mazda 3 and Altis, but im curious what is people's opinion of the K3 stack up against the Lancer 2015? Both are now 1.6L, with the Lancer 2015 boasting more horsepower and bigger wheelbase.

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Specwise, the K3 has more power compared to Lancer, but its heavier weight and shorter frame seems off putting.

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Appreciate input on the 3 cars based on the following:

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Looks:

Room Space:

0-100km/h (pickup):

Interior:

Torque:

Features:

Safety:

Trade in (AD):�

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many thanks to all.

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Among the 3, personally prefer K3 (which i test drive last week). Altis is like 15-20% more in terms of price. K3 only sightly more ex than lancer but looks better and appear to have more features. just my view. �

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Aiyoh... Let me help you..
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Looks: you have to decide since this is subjective to personal preference.

Room Space: you can seat in the car while test driving.

0-100km/h (pickup): you can feel it personally when test driving..

Interior: this again is subjective .. Which you like?

Torque: test drive will tell, no point looking at spec.

Features: this one definitely k3. Lancer is outdated liao..

Safety: cannot ask you test this but if refer to those safety test, k3 better..

Trade in (AD):�different car will have diff value to different ad.. You have to ask personally.

Hehehe...
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Thanks for the reply.

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I have seen from previous posts the comparisons between K3, Mazda 3 and Altis, but im curious what is people's opinion of the K3 stack up against the Lancer 2015? Both are now 1.6L, with the Lancer 2015 boasting more horsepower and bigger wheelbase.

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Specwise, the K3 has more power compared to Lancer, but its heavier weight and shorter frame seems off putting.

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Appreciate input on the 3 cars based on the following:

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Looks:

Room Space:

0-100km/h (pickup):

Interior:

Torque:

Features:

Safety:

Trade in (AD):�

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many thanks to all.

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Looks wise: Only you can judge.. If you're an evo fan, U probably side EX... but think again.. How old is EX? 2008 since now only facelift?

Room Space: Comparable

0-100km/hr: I never believe in test specs anymore. Only trust Butt feel...The EX auto lag is damn bad...Seems to match on paper 13.2sec...

Torque: K3 juz seems more eager to drive

Features: EX is an antique...

Safety: NCAP rating.. K3 better...and also EX STILL using rear drum brakes?? Seriously ....My�'08 �5G City already on 4x Ventilated disc stock

Trade in: I think C&C uses same Republic Auto dealer�(somebody verify this?) so no diff?

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Personally, if I'm comparing both cars, I will still choose K3, no�doubt I've always been an Evo fan [smash]

Thanks for the reply.
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I have seen from previous posts the comparisons between K3, Mazda 3 and Altis, but im curious what is people's opinion of the K3 stack up against the Lancer 2015? Both are now 1.6L, with the Lancer 2015 boasting more horsepower and bigger wheelbase.
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Specwise, the K3 has more power compared to Lancer, but its heavier weight and shorter frame seems off putting.
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Appreciate input on the 3 cars based on the following:
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Looks:
Room Space:
0-100km/h (pickup):
Interior:
Torque:
Features:
Safety:
Trade in (AD):�
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many thanks to all.
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What Lancer 2015? It is still the same old car introduced in 2007.
Car is outdated and old design.

Thanks for the reply.

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I have seen from previous posts the comparisons between K3, Mazda 3 and Altis, but im curious what is people's opinion of the K3 stack up against the Lancer 2015? Both are now 1.6L, with the Lancer 2015 boasting more horsepower and bigger wheelbase.

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Specwise, the K3 has more power compared to Lancer, but its heavier weight and shorter frame seems off putting.

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Appreciate input on the 3 cars based on the following:

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Looks:

Room Space:

0-100km/h (pickup):

Interior:

Torque:

Features:

Safety:

Trade in (AD):�

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many thanks to all.

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The only big difference is the pricing. Lancer is S$96,999(after all the discounts) and Kia is S$108,999. Other than this, Kia is the prefer car If I have to choose.

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Would appreciate your fellow input and comments on Lancer 2015 vs Kia K3 2015 vs Toyota Altis 2015.

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Whether you have a fondness for your existing Lancer or not, I strongly advise you to completely forget about and write off the "2015" Lancer EX. It is almost exactly the same car as it was years ago.

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Between those three I would choose the KIA Forte K3 for sure. Best value and equipment without having poor performance and economy.

Thanks for the reply.
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I have seen from previous posts the comparisons between K3, Mazda 3 and Altis, but im curious what is people's opinion of the K3 stack up against the Lancer 2015? Both are now 1.6L, with the Lancer 2015 boasting more horsepower and bigger wheelbase.
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Specwise, the K3 has more power compared to Lancer, but its heavier weight and shorter frame seems off putting.
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Appreciate input on the 3 cars based on the following:
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Looks:
Room Space:
0-100km/h (pickup):
Interior:
Torque:
Features:
Safety:
Trade in (AD):�
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many thanks to all.
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hi.... have you ever thought of a hyundai elantra elite? feel free to go to our fb page at elantra club Singapore and drop us a message if you have any questions about the car.

What Lancer 2015? It is still the same old car introduced in 2007.
Car is outdated and old design.

Fully agreed.

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Why spend so much $$ on a car that has been ard since 2007? Its not that the Lancer was as good as the FD Civic that its much cherished till this day. Mitsubishi may not be around much longer if they continue to stay staid in their R&D

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The only good thing about the Lancer is that you can Proton parts in Bolehland and save abit. Proton Inspira remember? Even the CVT can be purchased from Proton in addition to every body parts.

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But other than that, the Lancer is a big no no

Fully agreed.
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Why spend so much $$ on a car that has been ard since 2007? Its not that the Lancer was as good as the FD Civic that its much cherished till this day. Mitsubishi may not be around much longer if they continue to stay staid in their R&D
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The only good thing about the Lancer is that you can Proton parts in Bolehland and save abit. Proton Inspira remember? Even the CVT can be purchased from Proton in addition to every body parts.
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But other than that, the Lancer is a big no no

Cannot also change to Proton badge if want. ...

forgot if i asked this before.

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anyone installed mudguards onto your Forte K3?

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I think is quite practical to prevent additional dirt on the car body when travelling on dirty/wet roads, especially when my k3 is white.

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Wonder if it detracts from the looks of the vehicle. what's your opinion on this?�

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they seem to come as stock in some countries like the UAE

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Edited by ricleosg, 25 June 2015 - 03:05 PM.

forgot if i asked this before.

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anyone installed mudguards onto your Forte K3?

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I think is quite practical to prevent additional dirt on the car body when travelling on dirty/wet roads, especially when my k3 is white.

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Wonder if it detracts from the looks of the vehicle. what's your opinion on this?�

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they seem to come as stock in some countries like the UAE

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mudguards/mudflaps are usually discreet. Unless you mean the big black rear lip in your photo.

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imo mudguards/mudflaps I will install, doesn't seem to detract from the car's looks here. My car atm also got some hard mudguards.

In fact i'm surprised mudflaps/mudguard not standard issue item? When I was smaller I always thought every car in the world had mudflaps/mudguards haha

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If it's cheap to install I think you should, esp with your white body. Just make sure they are black/dark gray colors and they will never "detract" from your car's appearance.

forgot if i asked this before.

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anyone installed mudguards onto your Forte K3?

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I think is quite practical to prevent additional dirt on the car body when travelling on dirty/wet roads, especially when my k3 is white.

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Wonder if it detracts from the looks of the vehicle. what's your opinion on this?�

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they seem to come as stock in some countries like the UAE

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I just bought my mudguards online, waiting for their arrival so I can do my own installation.

IMO I think protecting the car from additional surface dirt helps reduce your workload while washing the car, because I wash my car frequently.�

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Have you guys gotten yours?
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I just bought my mudguards online, waiting for their arrival so I can do my own installation.

IMO I think protecting the car from additional surface dirt helps reduce your workload while washing the car, because I wash my car frequently.�

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Have you guys gotten yours?
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i ordered them from ebay too, a seller in china. hope they fit easily!

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mudguards/mudflaps are usually discreet. Unless you mean the big black rear lip in your photo.

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imo mudguards/mudflaps I will install, doesn't seem to detract from the car's looks here. My car atm also got some hard mudguards.

In fact i'm surprised mudflaps/mudguard not standard issue item? When I was smaller I always thought every car in the world had mudflaps/mudguards haha

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If it's cheap to install I think you should, esp with your white body. Just make sure they are black/dark gray colors and they will never "detract" from your car's appearance.

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ya i was surprised cars don't come with mud guards as standard too.

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the only drawback of these mud guards is that they wont work with the car with sports kit skirting on.

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i bought black. hope it is easy to install diy.

Anybody knows if 0000hrs later register vehicle, number plate is start with SKT or SKU ??? [crazy]

Anybody knows if 0000hrs later register vehicle, number plate is start with SKT or SKU ???

its randomly assigned within that range.

Does anyone know how to screen downloaded videos onto the Eurostyle HU?
I downloaded a couple of baby songs wanting to play them for my kid.
Wasn't successful as it displayed a "Enjoy while driving" message when the car is moving.
Only after the gear is engaged to P then the video comes on.

I know it's a safety feature but does anyone knows how to turn off this setting? Thanks!

its randomly assigned within that range.

Yest checked... realised didn't kanna��'Stock Keeping Unit�'..

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Collection further delayed... Accessories reach my hands liao.. Keys haven reach

Does anyone know how to screen downloaded videos onto the Eurostyle HU?
I downloaded a couple of baby songs wanting to play them for my kid.
Wasn't successful as it displayed a "Enjoy while driving" message when the car is moving.
Only after the gear is engaged to P then the video comes on.

I know it's a safety feature but does anyone knows how to turn off this setting? Thanks!

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I think usually for this kind of thing you need to sign an agreement at dealer for them to disable the safety feature. Try asking them

Does anyone know how to screen downloaded videos onto the Eurostyle HU?
I downloaded a couple of baby songs wanting to play them for my kid.
Wasn't successful as it displayed a "Enjoy while driving" message when the car is moving.
Only after the gear is engaged to P then the video comes on.

I know it's a safety feature but does anyone knows how to turn off this setting? Thanks!

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Most of the car audio shop should be able to do it for u.

hi, anyone knows where to get screen protector for the euro style navi system screen?

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Thanks in advance.

hi, anyone knows where to get screen protector for the euro style navi system screen?

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Thanks in advance.

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if you want cheap , you can get it at diaso but may need to cut a bit :)

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Been driving my k3 for 2 months. Wonder if anyone got lobang for installing the front camera. Which product to go for. And does it really drain a lot from the car battery?

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Thank You

Does anyone know how to screen downloaded videos onto the Eurostyle HU?
I downloaded a couple of baby songs wanting to play them for my kid.
Wasn't successful as it displayed a "Enjoy while driving" message when the car is moving.
Only after the gear is engaged to P then the video comes on.

I know it's a safety feature but does anyone knows how to turn off this setting? Thanks!

If the HU in installed by your AD, then you need to go to your AD to disable it. I think you will need to sign some document.

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if you want cheap , you can get it at diaso but may need to cut a bit :)

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Been driving my k3 for 2 months. Wonder if anyone got lobang for installing the front camera. Which product to go for. And does it really drain a lot from the car battery?

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Thank You

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Can try Blackvue. Its abit pricy, but seems like a quality product. They got some power pack like product to stop the camera draining battery from your car if you enable parking mode record.

Guys, i heard and read that new car cannot rev too high, is this true? or its just a myth?

Edited by drwatson, 29 June 2015 - 09:29 PM.

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Edited by Mkl22, 29 June 2015 - 09:46 PM.

Guys, i heard and read that new car cannot rev too high, is this true? or its just a myth?

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Is true... well, sort of. There is a run-in period of the first 1,500km where they recommend not redlining the engine. Typical of all cars.

i found its a bit confusing while you commented on the so so look but prefer for 2.0L / 1.6 turbo version... ~_~
At current market, K3 has advantage in term of price / feature and look (try compare fm side view if old and new forte similar) and thats why people think its great. Test drove it and its good.

i do love defender, but definitely not soul..no offend :)

Let me be the unbiased reviewer since I am driving hyundai accent manual transmission.

Recently overtook one k3 on the road. The driver seemed to have debagded his car. From the back, I was like wow this continental car looked nice. Even more so from the side, till I saw the honey comb shape grill in front that I realised it's a K3.

To me, I liked the rear and the side view but not the front view.

Let me be the unbiased reviewer since I am driving hyundai accent manual transmission.

Recently overtook one k3 on the road. The driver seemed to have debagded his car. From the back, I was like wow this continental car looked nice. Even more so from the side, till I saw the honey comb shape grill in front that I realised it's a K3.

To me, I liked the rear and the side view but not the front view.

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100% agree.... the honey comb grill is not my favourite type.... slowly grows on you but not to the point i can say i like it. I find the design acceptable keke.....

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waiting for a nice 3rd party replacement grill. The ones that come with the china model looks nicer.... but unfortunately does not fit on our version that comes from Korea.

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china version

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some 3rd party sports kit version

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Edited by ricleosg, 30 June 2015 - 12:40 PM.

here is another purely cosmetic non performance mod

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Guys, i heard and read that new car cannot rev too high, is this true? or its just a myth?

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Keep your revs between 2k and 4k. It's in the manual. :) Main thing: try to vary your speed.

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100% agree.... the honey comb grill is not my favourite type.... slowly grows on you but not to the point i can say i like it. I find the design acceptable keke.....

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waiting for a nice 3rd party replacement grill. The ones that come with the china model looks nicer.... but unfortunately does not fit on our version that comes from Korea.

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china version

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some 3rd party sports kit version

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Cant agree more on the honeycomb.. Backside chio Armani. Do keep me in the loop, should there be replacement grill, we can try for a group buy =)

here is another purely cosmetic non performance mod

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It looks awesome, any purchase made on this one?
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It looks awesome, any purchase made on this one?
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nope havent bought this one yet. hehe shall wait and see if the price drops. about USD185 from korea.

hmmmmm I have received the mudflaps. When I look at the car, I wonder how am i going to remove the screws from the body to install the flaps. the tires are so near to the panels.

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For the front wheel maybe more space can be made by turing the tires one way or the other. Rear wheels how ah hmmmm....

hmmmmm I have received the mudflaps. When I look at the car, I wonder how am i going to remove the screws from the body to install the flaps. the tires are so near to the panels.

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For the front wheel maybe more space can be made by turing the tires one way or the other. Rear wheels how ah hmmmm....

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remove tires! :a-panic:

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remove tires!

hahaha yup yup [laugh]

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Either that or you can use those fancy hinged screwdrivers that allows screw in at an angle
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also maybe can ask workshop let you jack up the car... could be a bit easier to access from below maybe

hahaha yup yup

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Either that or you can use those fancy hinged screwdrivers that allows screw in at an angle
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hehe i just purchased this super short screwdriver on ebay... hope it works!

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read the last review on K3...negative comment on servicing by cycle & carriage..anyone encounter similar situation? one of my shortlisted car in near future...worry!

This comes as a real concern from the review apart from the servicing centre of CC

Fuel economy. When i first the got the car, i could get 7.9l/100km very easily. I drive the same route every day and after 2 years, I have to be really really light footed to get 8.4liters/100km. If i drive like previously, i would probably get 9/100km... Almost like the current new SUVs.

read the last review on K3...negative comment on servicing by cycle & carriage..anyone encounter similar situation? one of my shortlisted car in near future...worry!

Which service centre? Can always go outside own workshop to do svc after the free servicing period , and it's cheaper any way.

Which service centre? Can always go outside own workshop to do svc after the free servicing period , and it's cheaper any way.

Then warranty void lah. Else they give you unlimited mileage 5 years warranty and 10 years engine warranty for what?
Review after driving for 2 years from sgcarmart.
Review
I'm the 1st batch of K3 drivers and figured I'll give an update since sgcarmart doesn't allow to update prev posts. In general, the car is good and many of what the posters have said here are valid. So I'll just give the negative parts of the car.

1. The service at C&C is the worst in the industry. They upsell you stuff and even if you take the service package, be prepared to keep paying for all sorts of crap. Eg. Air filters costs 2-3x more than 3rd party workshops. Once they returned my car with brown paint on my seat. The 2nd time i sent my car in, my aircon screwed up and has always had an uneven flow problems... And they have never been able to fix it after that. They just want to frustrate you to the point that you live with the issues. They take about 3-6 weeks to import parts from Korea. Eg. My window motor spoilt and aircon problems (still not fixed). They tell you come back again and you waste another half day.

2. They key issue is the the C&C group is owned by Jardine Group, which is indonesian and they are facing massive problems back home. So they will rip us off to subsidise their problems back home.

3. Fuel economy. When i first the got the car, i could get 7.9l/100km very easily. I drive the same route every day and after 2 years, I have to be really really light footed to get 8.4liters/100km. If i drive like previously, i would probably get 9/100km... Almost like the current new SUVs.
What I like
Most of what the other many reviewers have posted.
What I do not like
1. Cycle and carriage service. It is VERY BAD. This is very real because you must stick with them for 5 years... and they basically rip you off for 5 years.

2. relatively fast decline in fuel economy even though i service regularly.
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Then warranty void lah. Else they give you unlimited mileage 5 years warranty and 10 years engine warranty for what?
Review after driving for 2 years from sgcarmart.
Review
I'm the 1st batch of K3 drivers and figured I'll give an update since sgcarmart doesn't allow to update prev posts. In general, the car is good and many of what the posters have said here are valid. So I'll just give the negative parts of the car.

1. The service at C&C is the worst in the industry. They upsell you stuff and even if you take the service package, be prepared to keep paying for all sorts of crap. Eg. Air filters costs 2-3x more than 3rd party workshops. Once they returned my car with brown paint on my seat. The 2nd time i sent my car in, my aircon screwed up and has always had an uneven flow problems... And they have never been able to fix it after that. They just want to frustrate you to the point that you live with the issues. They take about 3-6 weeks to import parts from Korea. Eg. My window motor spoilt and aircon problems (still not fixed). They tell you come back again and you waste another half day.

2. They key issue is the the C&C group is owned by Jardine Group, which is indonesian and they are facing massive problems back home. So they will rip us off to subsidise their problems back home.

3. Fuel economy. When i first the got the car, i could get 7.9l/100km very easily. I drive the same route every day and after 2 years, I have to be really really light footed to get 8.4liters/100km. If i drive like previously, i would probably get 9/100km... Almost like the current new SUVs.
What I like
Most of what the other many reviewers have posted.
What I do not like
1. Cycle and carriage service. It is VERY BAD. This is very real because you must stick with them for 5 years... and they basically rip you off for 5 years.

2. relatively fast decline in fuel economy even though i service regularly.
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Is it really so bad? so far i have not seen a C&C servicing review this bad before. although i personally have not been to the service centre.

Agree, "warranty" is not a peace of mind for the consumer. It is a scheme to force u to pay extra for servicing at their centres. Otherwise, threaten to void warranty.
Similarly, when i collected my car last yr, there was a small tear in the seat leather. First servicing, they say parts not in yet. After collecting car from servicing, realised got scratches on my rims. They denied its their workshop..bla bla. Until finally relented and ask me come back n change. Second servicing they replaced the leather seat n scratched rim. Upon collection of car, found out the other seat had a small tear. Had to go back again to rectify. Engine oil filter didnt install properly, had leaking oil and i had to return again the next day to ask them to sort it out. All these while, not a single gesture of goodwill was given nor apology. A while later, a letter was sent to me saying need to replace headlight assembly due to it not having a levelling function. Went to replace as requested, takes a whole day just to change the headlight assembly. Came back, realised left side headlight and right side headlight shines at different levels from each other..so wtf right. Then, white HID headlamps became yellowish after replacement. So the daytime running lights, headlights, and fog lamp are all different shades of white to yellow. Gave up and didnt bother going back to rectify, didnt want to wait another whole day for this. As long as got light can liao. Want to buy car from them, be prepared for frustration and lotsa time for excuses and rectifications.

Thanks for the info. Guess must really find out more and think twice before making any decision, especially involve so much hard earn $$$

For those that service at C&C, which do you go which is giving issues? Leng Kee or Ubi? On my previous Forte, most of my servicing was done at Ubi and I don't face any problems.

For those that service at C&C, which do you go which is giving issues? Leng Kee or Ubi? On my previous Forte, most of my servicing was done at Ubi and I don't face any problems.

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generally no problems in the last 4 years when servicing at C&C for my first Forte. Now onto my second, i do have a problem with my front sensor. Will send it for checking.�

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Otherwise no problems with my 10k km - no charge due to 5 year package. Am on K&N air filter. Getting 7.5l/km at the moment after driving 400km on this tank (about 610 km on a tank)

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I am not fussy with my car hence cannot tell whether my headlights are both level, or aircon blowing the same.

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Is it really so bad? so far i have not seen a C&C servicing review this bad before. although i personally have not been to the service centre.

Yes,very bad,i told them my rear view dimming mirror not working,but they 'insisted' it is normal....everything is normal to them [thumbsdown] � [furious] �,changed a battery,quoted me thru phone $140,bill come out,$160,SA said see wrong price,bring my own Motul 300v,0w-20,100% Syn oil[this is a well known top tier engine oil],service advisor this will 'kaput' the engine....they said the best oil is Shell Helix Ultra...boooo...

Yes,very bad,i told them my rear view dimming mirror not working,but they 'insisted' it is normal....everything is normal to them � �,changed a battery,quoted me thru phone $140,bill come out,$160,SA said see wrong price,bring my own Motul 300v,0w-20,100% Syn oil[this is a well known top tier engine oil],service advisor this will 'kaput' the engine....they said the best oil is Shell Helix Ultra...boooo...

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sian....somemore this is my first car, i wont know what is right and what is wrong. they definitely will eat me 1.

I not sure about C&C servicing, but for Kah Motors last time, they will go thru a checklist, and brief exterior check to have common consensus of prominent scratches or dents..
Usually I will exhibit to them I'm a picky customer, and they jolly well do a good job, if not their superior gonna have painful ear drums...

Somebody can take photo (with timestamp) on various spots of their car before handlin our precious ride.. Before & After. . See how they can deny.

I hope C&C's Merc staff don't handle their aftersales like these kind of stories... wah, horror...

wah.. dam sianz to know that KIA after sales servicing is so bad. Actually i got a feeling it won't be good judging by the attitude of their sales.. but didn't know its going to be that bad. Isn't there anything we consumer can do to help protect ourselves .. beside regretting that a wrong choice was made?.. K3 so far looks and feels good less the fuel consumption zzz..�

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Btw have anyone else take a look below the driver seat?.. I happen to look for my coins dropped in the car n saw that the electrical component of the mechanical seat was all exposed.. as in no cover to conceal the circuitry and mechanical motor.. i was thinking if i happen to drop my coins in between the motor or electrical circuit won't it be quite hazardous or at least damage the seat when moving?

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Can anyone else confirm that the bottom of the electrical seat is open ? thanks alot

Edited by sgBuyer, 03 July 2015 - 02:34 AM.

I shouldn't be saying this but CC in Singapore carries Mercedes, Mitsubishi and Kia. Just looking at the sales of Mercedes, Kia and Mitsubishi can go relax one corner.

Read before that apart from Mercedes, the other makes get crap treatment as they are deemed as second class

I hope C&C's Merc staff don't handle their aftersales like these kind of stories... wah, horror...

They have a dedicated lounge and are treated differently.

I shouldn't be saying this but CC in Singapore carries Mercedes, Mitsubishi and Kia. Just looking at the sales of Mercedes, Kia and Mitsubishi can go relax one corner.

Read before that apart from Mercedes, the other makes get crap treatment as they are deemed as second class

They have a dedicated lounge and are treated differently.

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Profit margin for Merc smelly smelly $30-$40k, this can easily provide a luxury lounge...

Kia is around $10k only...

hmmmm i went to the service centre at Pandan Loop previously, and it was pretty ok.

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Car came back from servicing from a minor accident, so far everything is working as it is, and the car was washed and polished nicely with tires kiwied black or cleaned black looking like a new car.

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My only negative feedback is that yes, the parts need to be imported from Korea unless it is a "popular" item that always get replaced. One item was not in stock and took 2 weeks to import that part from Korea, which delayed my repairs. Luckily AIG provided 2 weeks replacement car use.....

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Wa didn't know Leng Kee svc centre so bad.... it's the nearest one to my house now!�

Edited by ricleosg, 03 July 2015 - 10:34 AM.

I not sure about C&C servicing, but for Kah Motors last time, they will go thru a checklist, and brief exterior check to have common consensus of prominent scratches or dents..
Usually I will exhibit to them I'm a picky customer, and they jolly well do a good job, if not their superior gonna have painful ear drums...

Somebody can take photo (with timestamp) on various spots of their car before handlin our precious ride.. Before & After. . See how they can deny.

This checking of prominent scratches and dents are due to last time there is one incident whereby a lady after servicing complained that her car being scratched. Since then all AD implemented this rule to minimise any mis-understanding.

This checking of prominent scratches and dents are due to last time there is one incident whereby a lady after servicing complained that her car being scratched. Since then all AD implemented this rule to minimise any mis-understanding.

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icic. Anyway I think its a good practise to ensure all things are clearly hand over & stated to prevent any misunderstanding.�

wah.. dam sianz to know that KIA after sales servicing is so bad. Actually i got a feeling it won't be good judging by the attitude of their sales.. but didn't know its going to be that bad. Isn't there anything we consumer can do to help protect ourselves .. beside regretting that a wrong choice was made?.. K3 so far looks and feels good less the fuel consumption zzz..�

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Btw have anyone else take a look below the driver seat?.. I happen to look for my coins dropped in the car n saw that the electrical component of the mechanical seat was all exposed.. as in no cover to conceal the circuitry and mechanical motor.. i was thinking if i happen to drop my coins in between the motor or electrical circuit won't it be quite hazardous or at least damage the seat when moving?

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Can anyone else confirm that the bottom of the electrical seat is open ? thanks alot

I've juz confirmed that the btm of the seat is open.. I always have the problem of dropping coins at the side of the driver seat. In fact last nite, I juz digged out a bag of coins, b4 handin my ride over to C&C earlier.. [;)]

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I've juz confirmed that the btm of the seat is open.. I always have the problem of dropping coins at the side of the driver seat. In fact last nite, I juz digged out a bag of coins, b4 handin my ride over to C&C earlier..
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Is your body kit fixed?

hmmmm i went to the service centre at Pandan Loop previously, and it was pretty ok.

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Car came back from servicing from a minor accident, so far everything is working as it is, and the car was washed and polished nicely with tires kiwied black or cleaned black looking like a new car.

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My only negative feedback is that yes, the parts need to be imported from Korea unless it is a "popular" item that always get replaced. One item was not in stock and took 2 weeks to import that part from Korea, which delayed my repairs. Luckily AIG provided 2 weeks replacement car use.....

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Wa didn't know Leng Kee svc centre so bad.... it's the nearest one to my house now!�

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Mine is a forte which I have been driving for 5.5 years. Serviced at C&C for first 4 years and decided to take it out to the "cheaper" workshops. But overall, the 4 years I've service at Pandan Garden Branch, service is not bad. Shared workshop for both Mitsubishi and KIA. Have always been welcomed there with the customer service folks.�

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But all I can say, servicing at C&C is super expensive. Serving at workshops outside saves me a lot of cash with good workmanship too.�

For a Korean make, servicing at c&c is very expensive, definitely more so than some Japanese makes like for Nissan at Tan Chong. I rather have 3 yr warranty if the car is reliable instead of being locked into a 5 yr warranty where I have no choice but to allow them to make abnormal profits to make up for the extended warranty.
The other issue with Kia is the poor stocking of parts even for new models. Can get parts faster from Min Ghee , the local authorized Kia parts stockist but which you can't during the course of the 5 yr warranty period.

Is your body kit fixed?

Yes.. You can see the comparison, though the front & rear kit have machiam don't have, obvious is the side skirts.

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Anyway, it's a kind gesture of my SE to top up free before the car collection.

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can show more pictures of the front back and rear with the kit and side skirts?

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good sample for ppl aiming for the sports sx.

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Yes.. You can see the comparison, though the front & rear kit have machiam don't have, obvious is the side skirts.

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Anyway, it's a kind gesture of my SE to top up free before the car collection.

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I shouldn't be saying this but CC in Singapore carries Mercedes, Mitsubishi and Kia. Just looking at the sales of Mercedes, Kia and Mitsubishi can go relax one corner.

Read before that apart from Mercedes, the other makes get crap treatment as they are deemed as second class

They have a dedicated lounge and are treated differently.

Haha.. Just like the govt hospital where you see the difference in the pirvate patient and the subsidy patient waiting area.

forgot if i asked this before.
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anyone installed mudguards onto your Forte K3?
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I think is quite practical to prevent additional dirt on the car body when travelling on dirty/wet roads, especially when my k3 is white.
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Wonder if it detracts from the looks of the vehicle. what's your opinion on this?�
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they seem to come as stock in some countries like the UAE
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Also come as stock for Hyundai accent in Singapore

Edited by Ivan_06, 04 July 2015 - 07:58 PM.

Also come as stock for Hyundai accent in Singapore

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car dealers scrimping on parts that are so cheap... i bought mine online for $15. now need to buy right angle screw driver to fix it on keke

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damn sad :(

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ouch! can imagine the heartpain....

can show more pictures of the front back and rear with the kit and side skirts?

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good sample for ppl aiming for the sports sx.

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Hope this would be useful.

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Had a close encounter, almost stuck with car unlock at Carpark.. Key drop from the side to the underside of the seat.. almost cant take out [:/]

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Hope this would be useful.

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Had a close encounter, almost stuck with car unlock at Carpark.. Key drop from the side to the underside of the seat.. almost cant take out

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wondering how's the back?

I find the front of the bodykit unappealing... the side skirts seem to ... have that 'paste on' look.

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TY for pic, helpful!

Edited by 7hm, 06 July 2015 - 04:17 AM.

thanks for the illustration! you even managed to find a EX model for a visual comparison keke.

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looks like the body kit is pretty thin, good point is it doesn't result in the driver having to slow down and look out at humps and slopes fearing the skirting will be scratched, and can be also seen as a sacrificial layer that protects the original bodyworks.�

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Hope this would be useful.

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Had a close encounter, almost stuck with car unlock at Carpark.. Key drop from the side to the underside of the seat.. almost cant take out

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Had a close encounter, almost stuck with car unlock at Carpark.. Key drop from the side to the underside of the seat.. almost cant take out

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very subtle bodykit�indeed. not very obvious but good clearance�for high humpity humps here. do u have a pic of the rear?

Edited by Blublak, 06 July 2015 - 09:34 AM.

I just wish this bodykit looked nicer, haha. But one good point for the side-skirt is that they cover up that unsightly seam between front & rear quarter panels. The one below the front-end of the front doors.

anything nicer will have to look elsewhere hehe, change the complete package for the "sports" look, more like "ah beng" look to me though.

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I just wish this bodykit looked nicer, haha. But one good point for the side-skirt is that they cover up that unsightly seam between front & rear quarter panels. The one below the front-end of the front doors.

I think one that mimic the old Koup front would be nice...

Hope this would be useful.

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Had a close encounter, almost stuck with car unlock at Carpark.. Key drop from the side to the underside of the seat.. almost cant take out

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Wah thanks for the photos!�

wah this side skirt seems like can hide my dent hahahaha.

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Wah thanks for the photos!�

wah this side skirt seems like can hide my dent hahahaha.

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hehe i think its better to bring your car to a workshop and get the dent hammered out. maybe the scratches are on the clear coat lacquer and the paintwork can still be polished back. the side skirt also cant fit properly on a dented body panel keke

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very subtle bodykit�indeed. not very obvious but good clearance�for high humpity humps here. do u have a pic of the rear?

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Indeed, don't need to worry while reversing... unless overloaded. Anyway bought the Sports for the HID & Sunroof, so bodykit or not doesn't make a diff.

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No harm asking. Better ask them to knock back, before fixing the bodykit, coz the surface isn't reali flat,

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Hi All proud owners of K3, waiting to collect my new K3, so hope to see/learn more from owners and a friendly wave on the roads!!!

Drive safe everyone. :)

Hi All proud owners of K3, waiting to collect my new K3, so hope to see/learn more from owners and a friendly wave on the roads!!!

Drive safe everyone. :)

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Welcome to the club! Sports or EX?

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Welcome to the club! Sports or EX?

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Thanks, Sports model.�

Hi All proud owners of K3, waiting to collect my new K3, so hope to see/learn more from owners and a friendly wave on the roads!!!

Drive safe everyone. :)

wELCOme on board�=)

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Btw�can any bros recommend where to get �slick looking dashboard mat.. The picture type seems a bit too bulky

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Edited by Maomao82, 07 July 2015 - 02:36 PM.

Sian.....CNC quoted me 500 bucks to repair this :((((

based on photo he quoted me, he say will need to assess it further on site.

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Sian.....CNC quoted me 500 bucks to repair this :((((

based on photo he quoted me, he say will need to assess it further on site.

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AD always more expensive, especially CNC. Try workshop outside, maybe half.

Sian.....CNC quoted me 500 bucks to repair this :((((

based on photo he quoted me, he say will need to assess it further on site.

i had something like this. They had to pull out the dent, weld and paint back. Cost was about $350 IIRC. About 4 years back.

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Maybe you check outside WS as well.

i had something like this. They had to pull out the dent, weld and paint back. Cost was about $350 IIRC. About 4 years back.

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Maybe you check outside WS as well.

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your 350 bucks is done at CNC? for what car? and yes he told me the same thing too. but he say need to take out the whole thing.

Edited by drwatson, 07 July 2015 - 08:17 PM.

Try Ubi Road 1 there Blk 3021A - car go in turn right - on left the last shop - a spray paint shop. Boss is a frenly Uncle. Put car early morning there by end of the day can collect.

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I've trie b4. Price wise is reasonable, you have to drive your car to let the boss take a look.

Edited by Digthis1, 07 July 2015 - 09:21 PM.

Try Ubi Road 1 there Blk 3021A - car go in turn right - on left the last shop - a spray paint shop. Boss is a frenly Uncle. Put car early morning there by end of the day can collect.

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I've trie b4. Price wise is reasonable, you have to drive your car to let the boss take a look.

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can i have the shop name?

Sian.....CNC quoted me 500 bucks to repair this :((((

based on photo he quoted me, he say will need to assess it further on site.

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Hi Drwatson. You can try going to green star spray painting at bedok. tell the boss whose name is roger that Aaron from elantra club recommend you.

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Hi Drwatson. You can try going to green star spray painting at bedok. tell the boss whose name is roger that Aaron from elantra club recommend you.

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hehe shld form a elantra & forte club. both share the same platform and powertrain, owned by the same parent co kekeke.....

Hey guys, thanks for the recommendation so far. CNC just called me again with a different quote haha. its 350 bucks now. Do you think it's reasonable?�

Hey guys, thanks for the recommendation so far. CNC just called me again with a different quote haha. its 350 bucks now. Do you think it's reasonable?�

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wa....do u think they are monitoring this thread?

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wa....do u think they are monitoring this thread?

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nope, long story haha

ok just left my car there. service was very good!

ok just left my car there. service was very good!

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nice. which workshop did you go to? pandan loop, ubi or alexandra?

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oh ya.... i noticed recently that my front left headlamp has condensation/water vapor internally sometimes on and off, this was after the car returned from the workshop. The staff told me could have gotten in during the welding process, and will dry/evaporate after a while. its been about a week and the condensation still appears.�

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Will this really go away? Or should i bring it back to ask them resolve? Funny thing is the condensation doesn't appear all the time. like this morning it was all clear, but yesterday evening it was there.

Edited by ricleosg, 08 July 2015 - 01:47 PM.

Sian.....CNC quoted me 500 bucks to repair this :((((

based on photo he quoted me, he say will need to assess it further on site.

That is v ex. Try workshop outside sure cheaper. Can try AMK auto-point.�

That is v ex. Try workshop outside sure cheaper. Can try AMK auto-point.�

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I was charged 350 bucks in the end. Is this price reasonable?

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nice. which workshop did you go to? pandan loop, ubi or alexandra?

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oh ya.... i noticed recently that my front left headlamp has condensation/water vapor internally sometimes on and off, this was after the car returned from the workshop. The staff told me could have gotten in during the welding process, and will dry/evaporate after a while. its been about a week and the condensation still appears.�

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Will this really go away? Or should i bring it back to ask them resolve? Funny thing is the condensation doesn't appear all the time. like this morning it was all clear, but yesterday evening it was there.

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Pandan! ermmmm i thought your welding was done 4 years back?

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I was charged 350 bucks in the end. Is this price reasonable?

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Pandan! ermmmm i thought your welding was done 4 years back?

From CNC is reasonable as they are AD. Outside maybe is $200 to $250.

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I was charged 350 bucks in the end. Is this price reasonable?

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Pandan! ermmmm i thought your welding was done 4 years back?

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4 years ago i had no Kia!

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i suspect they left my car in the back carpark where it was exposed to the rain while awaiting repair. Remember those 2 weeks was a period of crazy hot mornings to noon, and heavy rains in the later PM. Sun was so hot that my "baby on board" plastic sign was warped when i collected the car.

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4 years ago i had no Kia!

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i suspect they left my car in the back carpark where it was exposed to the rain while awaiting repair. Remember those 2 weeks was a period of crazy hot mornings to noon, and heavy rains in the later PM. Sun was so hot that my "baby on board" plastic sign was warped when i collected the car.

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oops wrong person. How much was your repair?

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oops wrong person. How much was your repair?

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hehe.... mine was an accident... so cannot compare la....claim insurance, pay for excess....�

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actually i haven't gotten a breakdown of the parts/replaced and cost yet. time to remind C&C pandan loop!

Hi anyone using those triangle type blind spot mirror on the side mirror? IMO it is useless cos everytime after car wash or cleaning need to adjust the angle again.

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Changing back to the round type. Triangle one going to the bin... [:p] � [:p] � [:p]

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So far after bat one month of driving the K3, i am getting best 9L/100km. 60%city 40%highway Is it normal?

Edited by k3k3k3, 08 July 2015 - 07:12 PM.

Hi anyone using those triangle type blind spot mirror on the side mirror? IMO it is useless cos everytime after car wash or cleaning need to adjust the angle again.

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Changing back to the round type. Triangle one going to the bin... � �

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So far after bat one month of driving the K3, i am getting best 9L/100km. 60%city 40%highway Is it normal?

I'm getting 9.5L/ltre on my 1st tank of SPC Petrol, max rpm = 3k . 60% Expressway, 40% City.. Damn bad, not sure if its due to car still on Mineral Oil

K3 is never known to be a fuel saver. 9-10l/100km is common. Even after run in, most probably 8-9l/100km

Edited by Ivan_06, 08 July 2015 - 08:48 PM.

I'm getting 9.5L/ltre on my 1st tank of SPC Petrol, max rpm = 3k . 60% Expressway, 40% City.. Damn bad, not sure if its due to car still on Mineral Oil

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Mineral oil affects fuel economy?�

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Mineral oil affects fuel economy?�

Well.. Correct me if I'm wrong.. I always thought Mineral Oil is more viscious though poorer fuel economy?

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Well.. Correct me if I'm wrong.. I always thought Mineral Oil is more viscious though poorer fuel economy?

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Nice car btw!

Very nice detailing job.

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I don't really take care of the exterior except for cleaning it now.

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If 9km/100km is norm for k3 then its almost same as my ex altis.

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IMO 1600cc car shouldn't use 17inch wheels.

Edited by k3k3k3, 08 July 2015 - 11:28 PM.

Very nice detailing job.

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I don't really take care of the exterior except for cleaning it now.

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If 9km/100km is norm for k3 then its almost same as my ex altis.

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IMO 1600cc car shouldn't use 17inch wheels.

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I've seen some owners post that they have downgraded to 16inch wheels for a more comfortable ride and theoretical better fuel efficiency.�

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for me i think the 17inch sports rims look nicer.�

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