mycarforum: KIA K3 Owners check-in! part 33

You might as well say it does not feel like a $100k car and OMV only about $1k plus compared to a SX K3. But upfront so much.. Seen the car before K3 but my feel does not feel the price. Yeah Altis is a damn solid car. Never repair for more $3k throughout 10 yrs serving me. Even the tech when I was working at C&C said that the Cerato Variant 2 is solid car.

I think a lot are leaning to old generation thinking where by Kia is a lousy Korean car. I happen to wash my car and there is this 50s old guy talking to another elder guy about cars and badmouthed Korean cars which is seemly aimed at me (Jealous that a 20 yo+ can buy a car now older still can buy a new car, heard from others) as previously he talked about Altis is a lousy car which is my old car for 10 yrs. Really want to bash him up. No money still want to buy car and if buy left 1 yr or so.

The other elder guy said Korea cars are improved but this idiot simply puts it down when he said he wanted to buy Elantra.

Well he is quite notorious for bragging of how he can afford expensive cars and no body gives a damn anyway ha..

My bro in law who work in Mercedes also say Hyundai n Kia r good cars

My bro in law who work in Mercedes also say Hyundai n Kia r good cars

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Ha outside those Sonata taxi seldom see break down on the roads despite the amount of mileage done per day.

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My bro's old Picanto of 8 yrs seldom break down which makes me considered a Korean car and pretty value for $ plus get a lot of praise that it looks good and feel continental. I think simply some elders are out of touch for cars nowadays. Stubborn..�

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I last remember that I bring my dad's friend who works as BMW's SE now retired. We bring him to see Honda lastly Kia. Never know he on the deal directly paid full cash for a K3 EX. A person that keep asking technical Q to the sales guy that he cannot answer most of it surprisingly buy one over a Honda. His old car is also a Honda same as me 10 yrs, finds renewing not so value for $$.�

You might as well say it does not feel like a $100k car and OMV only about $1k plus compared to a SX K3. But upfront so much.. Seen the car before K3 but my feel does not feel the price. Yeah Altis is a damn solid car. Never repair for more $3k throughout 10 yrs serving me. Even the tech when I was working at C&C said that the Cerato Variant 2 is solid car.

I think a lot are leaning to old generation thinking where by Kia is a lousy Korean car. I happen to wash my car and there is this 50s old guy talking to another elder guy about cars and badmouthed Korean cars which is seemly aimed at me (Jealous that a 20 yo+ can buy a car now older still can buy a new car, heard from others) as previously he talked about Altis is a lousy car which is my old car for 10 yrs. Really want to bash him up. No money still want to buy car and if buy left 1 yr or so.

The other elder guy said Korea cars are improved but this idiot simply puts it down when he said he wanted to buy Elantra.

Well he is quite notorious for bragging of how he can afford expensive cars and no body gives a damn anyway ha..

My Dad used to have negative impression of Korean car too, old ppl r like that. But after me and my brother drove Korean cars, his mindset changed liao

Other jap cars like nissan, Honda or mazda, I have no much opinion cause their price is slightly higher than kimchi car and the features r not too bad.

But altis is really sometime I always nag about. The interior must be designed by some ah pek and I wonder why they dare to price their car so ex... 100% won't spoil meh

My Dad used to have negative impression of Korean car too, old ppl r like that. But after me and my brother drove Korean cars, his mindset changed liao

Other jap cars like nissan, Honda or mazda, I have no much opinion cause their price is slightly higher than kimchi car and the features r not too bad.

But altis is really sometime I always nag about. The interior must be designed by some ah pek and I wonder why they dare to price their car so ex... 100% won't spoil meh

Actually altis design started to look not so ah pek after�since 08 altis. But don't know since when altis has been selling more and more overpriced. But many people really say altis maintenance very little, parts can last very long. Lol.�

Altis is always behind in its cabin design and features.

The only consolation is that the current model offers a black interior.

But cruise control is still missing.

Don't feed the troll that's spamming all over k3, elantra and mz3 thread by focusing on the negative aspects on each of these cars.

Actually altis design started to look not so ah pek after since 08 altis. But don't know since when altis has been selling more and more overpriced. But many people really say altis maintenance very little, parts can last very long. Lol.

Ya the exterior has improved but like I mentioned, the interior really...

But toyota cars r really less problematic

Ya the exterior has improved but like I mentioned, the interior really...

But toyota cars r really less problematic

Although altis is less problematic but it doesn't mean Korean car is more problematic la. Believe altis or k3 all are good cars.

Edited by 13177, 04 March 2016 - 05:44 PM.

Although altis is less problematic but it doesn't mean Korean car is more problematic la. Believe altis or k3 all are good cars.

Who say one. As long it's Korean made or not Toyota, it's not as reliable as the Altis.:(

BTW anyone encountered this? SA told my Dad that SOP for car collection is ONLY before showroom opens on weekends at 10am. Means weekend can only collect car before 10am...�

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Although altis is less problematic but it doesn't mean Korean car is more problematic la. Believe altis or k3 all are good cars.

k3 is a good car plus value for $$ too

Bros, I've booked K3 SX Aurora Black on 24th Feb , took the 3 month 6 bids. Getting excited!!

Wondering if we can secure COE this coming round. Feel like changing to the guaranteed package.

Bros, I've booked K3 SX Aurora Black on 24th Feb , took the 3 month 6 bids. Getting excited!!

Wondering if we can secure COE this coming round. Feel like changing to the guaranteed package.

Both standard & platinum package are non guaranteed COE? The difference is only on the COE rebate?

Bros pls add me to the group chat. Thanks.

Both standard & platinum package are non guaranteed COE? The difference is only on the COE rebate?

Bros pls add me to the group chat. Thanks.

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Their new Platinum is guaranteed COE and higher rebate. Price difference between Platinum and Standard is $4k now instead of the previous $3k.

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I booked the Standard 6 bid non-guaranteed too 2 weeks ago. Not very confident can secure COE, as many ppl seem to be buying.

Their new Platinum is guaranteed COE and higher rebate. Price difference between Platinum and Standard is $4k now instead of the previous $3k.

I booked the Standard 6 bid non-guaranteed too 2 weeks ago. Not very confident can secure COE, as many ppl seem to be buying.

Aiyo, then how? Do we need to change to the Platinum?

Aiyo, then how? Do we need to change to the Platinum?

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Personally, I feel the extra $4k premium is too high to pay for. So, I want to try my luck, at least wait and see the results for the first 3-4 bids to determine what to do next.

Personally, I feel the extra $4k premium is too high to pay for. So, I want to try my luck, at least wait and see the results for the first 3-4 bids to determine what to do next.

Yup, but have to wait so long.

Bros, I've booked K3 SX Aurora Black on 24th Feb , took the 3 month 6 bids. Getting excited!!

Wondering if we can secure COE this coming round. Feel like changing to the guaranteed package.

Good luck and welcome to the club!

Edited by Kwoni, 05 March 2016 - 11:29 AM.

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just wondering, anyone can share what are the freebies or discount�to squeeze from SE?

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Just got my K3 EX yesterday, overall it was a smooth ride !!

One qns: is the instant fuel consumption showing on the display accurate? Kept showing between 10.9km/l - 11.4km/l

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Any other better method to calculate the FC?

hi all,

just wondering, anyone can share what are the freebies or discount to squeeze from SE?

thanks

Scroll back..this had been discussed b4 bro...

Just got my K3 EX yesterday, overall it was a smooth ride !!
One qns: is the instant fuel consumption showing on the display accurate? Kept showing between 10.9km/l - 11.4km/l

Any other better method to calculate the FC?

The numbers are avg. The bar is instant. U shld get either this range for a start and will get better with high mileage.

I'm currently at 7.6l/100 at 600km mileage and is targeting 7.0 below

Edited by Kwoni, 05 March 2016 - 12:30 PM.

Just got my K3 EX yesterday, overall it was a smooth ride !!

One qns: is the instant fuel consumption showing on the display accurate? Kept showing between 10.9km/l - 11.4km/l

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Any other better method to calculate the FC?

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city driving will be like that. go on the expressway for 10-20km and it will come down. reset it if you have not done so before, i usually reset after every pump.

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after every full tank, you can calculate manually by checking how many KM has been completed. eg 500km/40L pumped. gives u 12.km/L

Scroll back..this had been discussed b4 bro...
The numbers are avg. The bar is instant. U shld get either this range for a start and will get better with high mileage.

I'm currently at 7.6l/100 at 600km mileage and is targeting 7.0 below

Okay i will continue to monitor!� [laugh]

city driving will be like that. go on the expressway for 10-20km and it will come down. reset it if you have not done so before, i usually reset after every pump.

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after every full tank, you can calculate manually by checking how many KM has been completed. eg 500km/40L pumped. gives u 12.km/L

Oh yeah has been city driving for yesterday. I will try on the expressway and monitor the FC, thanks for advising!� [laugh]

How's the COE trend like? Anle to secure COE this coming Wed? What is the margin of coe raise that c&c will accept.

Hi all, today my new 1 month old kia met with a small accident ..there are scratches at the side of the bumper.ang idea whom to contact to get it corrected and approximately how much it may cost..and will the scratch correction be done properly with repainting..or even after the repair it may not be the same again.

Any pics of the damage? If not too bad shld be able to fix
Any pics of the damage? If not too bad shld be able to fix
Any pics of the damage? If not too bad shld be able to fix

Just got my K3 EX yesterday, overall it was a smooth ride !!

One qns: is the instant fuel consumption showing on the display accurate? Kept showing between 10.9km/l - 11.4km/l

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Any other better method to calculate the FC?

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Old method works best. distance travelled / litre pumped..

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K3 is not known for good economy anyway. I at best get near 11 while worse 8.6. 50% highway and 50% city. Usually stuck morning traffic..while going to work. I seldom drive for personal outings anyway and dun travel far cause I at times take public transport.

Hi all, today my new 1 month old kia met with a small accident ..there are scratches at the side of the bumper.ang idea whom to contact to get it corrected and approximately how much it may cost..and will the scratch correction be done properly with repainting..or even after the repair it may not be the same again.

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Anything happens and suxs. If it is deep then they need to putty the damage smooth and respray the entire bumper. But since your car is still new then color match should not be an issue. My car within 1 week ownership kenna big rock chip that went pass the 9H coating and several internal damage chip caused by the big rock at my lower bumper. Used a HKS badge to covered it. No suspicion. But still not as worse than yours.

Hi, when I got my k3 on 20 jan, got the following add on FOC:

1) solar film
2) eurostyle touchscreen with reverse camera
3) laser shade
4) thinkware camera

Eurostyle sound system looks cool but sound system is average. Good enough if you just want to play cd, radio n mp3 but not a highbass blasting effect. You may need to add ampliflier n good speakers.

The laser shade n sun film are great.

For sharing on my own experience.

Thanks.

there is only 1 model of eurostyle or more than 1 type. I remember there were a few other models on display. I remember the SE told me there was only model for K3, anybody has some experience

there is only 1 model of eurostyle or more than 1 type. I remember there were a few other models on display. I remember the SE told me there was only model for K3, anybody has some experience

Not sure about the different model of Eurostyle. Mine has the reverse camera with it. But the brightness of the screen was quite high during night time, any bros can advise any idea how to reduce the brightness?

Not sure about the different model of Eurostyle. Mine has the reverse camera with it. But the brightness of the screen was quite high during night time, any bros can advise any idea how to reduce the brightness?

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anyone haveing issues connecting music via BT? You got to turn contact sync off. then the "multimedia" button appears on the BT screen...�

anyone haveing issues connecting music via BT? You got to turn contact sync off. then the "multimedia" button appears on the BT screen...

How do you turn off the contact sync? I just tried the bluetooth and my whole phone contact got copied into the phonebook haha

Not sure about the different model of Eurostyle. Mine has the reverse camera with it. But the brightness of the screen was quite high during night time, any bros can advise any idea how to reduce the brightness?

U can mute the screen. There is a button on top for this I think..cant remember..

U can mute the screen. There is a button on top for this I think..cant remember..

Thanks i found it, it is under 'Apps' > bottom left hand got an icon to off the display. At night don't have such glaring light distracting me anymore� [bounce2]

I went to the Alexandra showroom today. t was much more crowded than last month when I went for a test drive.�

Platinum package also includes free servicing for first year, so the actual difference less than 4k. Plus the COE rebate for stnadard package is pegged to 32k vs 40K for platinum package. So highly unlikely that standard package will get the delivery before May ( when hopefully increase in quota may pull the prices down).

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I did not have have any car to trade in( first time buyer) so I was not eligible for the trade in discount. SC played a big wayang that he need to talk to managment( which I doubt he went for a smoke break instead of talking to anyone in managment).

In the end he agreed to get us the discount but we had to pay $400 for the "freebies" . I went for paint protector, solar film, eurostyle & thinkware.

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Hopefully I should get the delivery by the end of the month ( no current stock according to him ... all in shipment esp if you are looking for red color)

I went to the Alexandra showroom today. t was much more crowded than last month when I went for a test drive.
Platinum package also includes free servicing for first year, so the actual difference less than 4k. Plus the COE rebate for stnadard package is pegged to 32k vs 40K for platinum package. So highly unlikely that standard package will get the delivery before May ( when hopefully increase in quota may pull the prices down).

I did not have have any car to trade in( first time buyer) so I was not eligible for the trade in discount. SC played a big wayang that he need to talk to managment( which I doubt he went for a smoke break instead of talking to anyone in managment).
In the end he agreed to get us the discount but we had to pay $400 for the "freebies" . I went for paint protector, solar film, eurostyle & thinkware.

Hopefully I should get the delivery by the end of the month ( no current stock according to him ... all in shipment esp if you are looking for red color)

I think you dont understand what coe rebate means. Rebate at $32k means they will return you the difference should coe fall below $32k, which is highly impossible for coe to fall below $32k. It does not mean that they submit bid for $32k.

1st year servicng only at 1k and 10k which cost less than $400. So u r paying $3600 extra whereby coe is likely to fall.

Thanks i found it, it is under 'Apps' > bottom left hand got an icon to off the display. At night don't have such glaring light distracting me anymore�

Does the Eurostyle GPS on the K3 have an auto dimming night mode, or auto brightness sensor/adjustment?

Also wondering for current K3 owners, is there a way to disable the Cruise Control button on the steering wheel in case an unfamiliar driver using the car accidentally activates it? Or is that not likely to happen?

Edited by rurouni, 06 March 2016 - 11:51 PM.

Does the Eurostyle GPS on the K3 have an auto dimming night mode, or auto brightness sensor/adjustment?

Also wondering for current K3 owners, is there a way to disable the Cruise Control button on the steering wheel in case an unfamiliar driver using the car accidentally activates it? Or is that not likely to happen?

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If such a situation happens, the driver's instinctive reaction will be to hit the brake. That disengages auto-cruise.

Does the Eurostyle GPS on the K3 have an auto dimming night mode, or auto brightness sensor/adjustment?

Also wondering for current K3 owners, is there a way to disable the Cruise Control button on the steering wheel in case an unfamiliar driver using the car accidentally activates it? Or is that not likely to happen?

3 ways to disengage cruise control. 1st..step brake, 2nd..press cancel..for both 1 and 2..u can resume cruise ctrl speedby pressing Res+ switch. 3rd..press cruise button to turn off cruise ctrl. This method cannot be resumed.

Also wondering for current K3 owners, is there a way to disable the Cruise Control button on the steering wheel in case an unfamiliar driver using the car accidentally activates it? Or is that not likely to happen?

Scares me to have driver like you on our road.....

Does the Eurostyle GPS on the K3 have an auto dimming night mode, or auto brightness sensor/adjustment?

Also wondering for current K3 owners, is there a way to disable the Cruise Control button on the steering wheel in case an unfamiliar driver using the car accidentally activates it? Or is that not likely to happen?

Pressing cruise control only enables it. Driver still need to press the set speed lever to activate it.

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Unfamiliar driver has a low probability of doing both sequences.

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You should brief the driver if you let someone unfamiliar with your car drive it, including telling them the signal lever is on the left side.

I went to the Alexandra showroom today. t was much more crowded than last month when I went for a test drive.�

Platinum package also includes free servicing for first year, so the actual difference less than 4k. Plus the COE rebate for stnadard package is pegged to 32k vs 40K for platinum package. So highly unlikely that standard package will get the delivery before May ( when hopefully increase in quota may pull the prices down).

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I did not have have any car to trade in( first time buyer) so I was not eligible for the trade in discount. SC played a big wayang that he need to talk to managment( which I doubt he went for a smoke break instead of talking to anyone in managment).

In the end he agreed to get us the discount but we had to pay $400 for the "freebies" . I went for paint protector, solar film, eurostyle & thinkware.

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Hopefully I should get the delivery by the end of the month ( no current stock according to him ... all in shipment esp if you are looking for red color)

Looks like KIA does not give a good deal package?!

Looks like KIA does not give a good deal package?!

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guess all vendors are the same, you need to catch them when the stock levels are ample, not when their quota is reached.

How do you turn off the contact sync? I just tried the bluetooth and my whole phone contact got copied into the phonebook haha

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You need to go into your BT settings on the phone to manually turn it off... for iphone its Settings>Bluetooth(turn on)>Car name (Press i)> there's a toggle to turn off sync contacts�

2nd bidding this week, hopefully can get it... can't wait to drive K3~

hi bros here, why so difficult to see any K3 at used car market?

My K3 having this weird problem recently.

When stationary, it will 'shudder' once in a while.

Felt almost like the car want to engage gear and move off, but couldn't and engine want to die off...

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Anybody else encounter this problem with your K3?

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Mine is about 1.5yr old. Suddenly kenna this. Went to LengKee they check engine say nothing wrong.

The issue is this occurrence is very random and I can't make it happen at the workshop so they couldn't troubleshoot.

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Wonder what could be the cause... gearbox?

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My K3 having this weird problem recently.
When stationary, it will 'shudder' once in a while.
Felt almost like the car want to engage gear and move off, but couldn't and engine want to die off...

Anybody else encounter this problem with your K3?

Mine is about 1.5yr old. Suddenly kenna this. Went to LengKee they check engine say nothing wrong.
The issue is this occurrence is very random and I can't make it happen at the workshop so they couldn't troubleshoot.

Wonder what could be the cause... gearbox?

Does it happen after being stuck in jams? Or randomly even when engine is running cool?

2nd bidding this week, hopefully can get it... can't wait to drive K3~

Me on 1st bidding. Excited too. Hopefully can get it.

Does it happen after being stuck in jams? Or randomly even when engine is running cool?

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Very random. Sometimes start car only it happens. Sometimes nothing. Sometimes stop at traffic lights it happens.

My K3 having this weird problem recently.

When stationary, it will 'shudder' once in a while.

Felt almost like the car want to engage gear and move off, but couldn't and engine want to die off...

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Anybody else encounter this problem with your K3?

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Mine is about 1.5yr old. Suddenly kenna this. Went to LengKee they check engine say nothing wrong.

The issue is this occurrence is very random and I can't make it happen at the workshop so they couldn't troubleshoot.

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Wonder what could be the cause... gearbox?

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Check whether is it air-con cut in. It happens to mine.

Based on tacho, it is probably 50-100rpm drop, then back to normal in a split second.

But mine does not feel as bad as what you describe, engine want to die off.

Check whether is it air-con cut in. It happens to mine.

Based on tacho, it is probably 50-100rpm drop, then back to normal in a split second.

But mine does not feel as bad as what you describe, engine want to die off.

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The technician also thought it could be the aircon.

But I never had this before..... will try to drive without aircon and see whether it still happens

Could be a fuel pump issue? Normally it only throws an error code when there's close to total failure.Not sure about Kia but most technicians just plug the comp into the OBD and see if it reads any errors... no errors means everything is A OK. �

2nd bidding this week, hopefully can get it... can't wait to drive K3~

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K3 at $84K, the depreciation is $7.5K, cheaper than many 2nd hand cars. How much did they bid for you previous?�

hi bros here, why so difficult to see any K3 at used car market?

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They are quite rare and even there is then it be gone within 1 week.�

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Easy to sell without any problems.

They are quite rare and even there is then it be gone within 1 week.�

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Easy to sell without any problems.

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Thanks bro. high commintments, there is no way to look for new K3. :TT_TT:

K3 at $84K, the depreciation is $7.5K, cheaper than many 2nd hand cars. How much did they bid for you previous?�

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Yeah mainly to the unusually high OMV for the SX. I bought mine at $100k+ but not even $10k of depreciation even so.�

K3 at $84K, the depreciation is $7.5K, cheaper than many 2nd hand cars. How much did they bid for you previous?�

K3�EX at $84k? Depreciation cheaper than 2nd hand cars, but only if you can afford to downpayment about $33k cash and yet would not�empty your savings.�Lol.

The technician also thought it could be the aircon.

But I never had this before..... will try to drive without aircon and see whether it still happens

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Ok, just tried driving without aircon and the symptom still happens --> not caused by aircon. Haiz..

Could be a fuel pump issue? Normally it only throws an error code when there's close to total failure.Not sure about Kia but most technicians just plug the comp into the OBD and see if it reads any errors... no errors means everything is A OK. �

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Ok, Will ask the workshop to check this also.

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I'm hoping it's nothing major like gearbox, etc. it almost felt like 'throw clutch' on manual cars sometimes.�

K3 at $84K, the depreciation is $7.5K, cheaper than many 2nd hand cars. How much did they bid for you previous?

Talk very easy hor

2nd bidding this week, hopefully can get it... can't wait to drive K3~

Any more bros going on the bidding tomorrow? Hopefully can secure COE for my new K3!

Ok, just tried driving without aircon and the symptom still happens --> not caused by aircon. Haiz..

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Ok, Will ask the workshop to check this also.

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I'm hoping it's nothing major like gearbox, etc. it almost felt like 'throw clutch' on manual cars sometimes.�

at least you can now confidently tell workshop it's not due to air con cut in.

so it's confirmed something is not right somewhere.

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try to observe for conditions that usually cause the symptom. at least that makes it easier to convince them there is indeed a problem if it can be reproduced. that would also help them find the root cause.

My K3 having this weird problem recently.
When stationary, it will 'shudder' once in a while.
Felt almost like the car want to engage gear and move off, but couldn't and engine want to die off...

Anybody else encounter this problem with your K3?

Mine is about 1.5yr old. Suddenly kenna this. Went to LengKee they check engine say nothing wrong.
The issue is this occurrence is very random and I can't make it happen at the workshop so they couldn't troubleshoot.

Wonder what could be the cause... gearbox?

Sounds like a dirty/sticky Idle Air Controller. The throttle plate is closed at idle, air enters throttle via the idle air controller. (Tiny hole with open / close mechanism)

Need to check whether it opens up, or if not it could be clogged with dirt.

I just tried the USB port but seems like it is not working. Tried four different cables, phone not charging + i tried to toggle to usb under music also doesnt work.

Any advice for this? Need to press anything to activate the port? Or just as simple as plug and play.

I just tried the USB port but seems like it is not working. Tried four different cables, phone not charging + i tried to toggle to usb under music also doesnt work.

Any advice for this? Need to press anything to activate the port? Or just as simple as plug and play.

It should be plug and play ... though that port if used for charging will be very slow ... usb reading should be no issue ... perhaps ask them check rewiring? Did u add on eurostyle?

It should be plug and play ... though that port if used for charging will be very slow ... usb reading should be no issue ... perhaps ask them check rewiring? Did u add on eurostyle?

Yes i was given the eurostyle HU. Alright then i shall inform them when i go for my 1K servicing.
Thanks for the info!

Yes i was given the eurostyle HU. Alright then i shall inform them when i go for my 1K servicing.
Thanks for the info!

When i installed my Kenwood HU ... I had to forgo using that usb port. Reason given by shop unable to connect cables without hvng to break open a box behind that console to access cable entry point. So i had my HU usb port routed and hidden inside glove compartment.

I assume that should not be the case fr eurostyle since supplied together frm C&C.

My K3 having this weird problem recently.
When stationary, it will 'shudder' once in a while.
Felt almost like the car want to engage gear and move off, but couldn't and engine want to die off...

Anybody else encounter this problem with your K3?

Mine is about 1.5yr old. Suddenly kenna this. Went to LengKee they check engine say nothing wrong.
The issue is this occurrence is very random and I can't make it happen at the workshop so they couldn't troubleshoot.

Wonder what could be the cause... gearbox?

Hi chance it could be ignition coil problem. One of the coil is dying..

Ignition coil? Why would this be an ignition coil issue? It comes into play only when you start the engine... once the engine is running, the ignition mechanism does not play in part in the running of the engine. Only the spark plugs will be active in providing the spark for the fuel to combust.

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The sudden shuddering could be due to many related issues, like the throttle valve, the air intake valves, the cam shafts, premature detonation of fuel, random ECU errors, etc... it will take a while to figure what is wrong. What the workshop does is to plug in the computerised diagnostic tool and see if it calls up any errors. If it comes back clean, C&C will simply tell you that they didn't detect a fault. When you send it in again, you will have to tell them how you encounter the fault.

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Try to see if it is possible to recreate the fault, otherwise they will be looking for a needle in a haystack and it would be really tough to try to solve a random issue. Have you tried revving the engine and suddenly let go of the accelerator? See if the engine shudders or not? How about putting into Drive mode, then let the car roll for a distance, see if you can induce the shudder? Alternatively, try going up slope at a crawl (like HDB MSCP, and let the car come to a stalling point at the top of the slope, don't step on the gas). You're stressing the engine to see if it will give you the fault. If it is truly random, then I am not sure if it can be detected or not. You may have to leave the car in the workshop for a few days and allow the staff to drive the car around and then they will be able to feel the fault for themselves.

1) I have read a lot of Batt problems from Kia Msia FB page and was wondering if their battery is the same as us?

2) Any bros/sistas traded in their given Rims+tyres ? if yes how much. From the past posts, the Nexen tyres can trade in about $60?

Thanks in advance!

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K3 at $84K, the depreciation is $7.5K, cheaper than many 2nd hand cars. How much did they bid for you previous?

Failed again.. they bid $40k twice..

Failed again.. they bid $40k twice..

Me too. First bid failed. They bid at $40k how to get?! Im going to top up to guranteed package.

1) I have read a lot of Batt problems from Kia Msia FB page and was wondering if their battery is the same as us?

2) Any bros/sistas traded in their given Rims+tyres ? if yes how much. From the past posts, the Nexen tyres can trade in about $60?

Thanks in advance!

I traded in the 16" rims and tyres for my ex for $400.

Edited by Jagash, 09 March 2016 - 06:09 PM.

Failed again.. they bid $40k twice..

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So 84k K3, bid at 40k? Basic cost at 33,600. Expected profit margin is $10,400.

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Seems a bit high, Kia not interested in doing business? I thought it would be closer to 7-8k margin for the K3 EX spec, being a low spec B&B model.�

Ignition coil? Why would this be an ignition coil issue? It comes into play only when you start the engine... once the engine is running, the ignition mechanism does not play in part in the running of the engine. Only the spark plugs will be active in providing the spark for the fuel to combust.

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The sudden shuddering could be due to many related issues, like the throttle valve, the air intake valves, the cam shafts, premature detonation of fuel, random ECU errors, etc... it will take a while to figure what is wrong. What the workshop does is to plug in the computerised diagnostic tool and see if it calls up any errors. If it comes back clean, C&C will simply tell you that they didn't detect a fault. When you send it in again, you will have to tell them how you encounter the fault.

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Try to see if it is possible to recreate the fault, otherwise they will be looking for a needle in a haystack and it would be really tough to try to solve a random issue. Have you tried revving the engine and suddenly let go of the accelerator? See if the engine shudders or not? How about putting into Drive mode, then let the car roll for a distance, see if you can induce the shudder? Alternatively, try going up slope at a crawl (like HDB MSCP, and let the car come to a stalling point at the top of the slope, don't step on the gas). You're stressing the engine to see if it will give you the fault. If it is truly random, then I am not sure if it can be detected or not. You may have to leave the car in the workshop for a few days and allow the staff to drive the car around and then they will be able to feel the fault for themselves.

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Thanks for the suggestions. I've been trying very hard to replicate the problem in a consistent/predictable way. Will test all the above scenarios.

Subaru bidded 45400 for my friend's XV. First round and won

Subaru bidded 45400 for my friend's XV. First round and won

Did he bought the guranteed package?

So 84k K3, bid at 40k? Basic cost at 33,600. Expected profit margin is $10,400.

Seems a bit high, Kia not interested in doing business? I thought it would be closer to 7-8k margin for the K3 EX spec, being a low spec B&B model.

Mine SX $89k bid at $40k. I called the SE and f*** , r they not interested in getting coe, how can bid at $40k?!

Did he bought the guranteed package?

Mine SX $89k bid at $40k. I called the SE and f*** , r they not interested in getting coe, how can bid at $40k?!

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Kia SX at 39k cost price, 40k bid for 10k profit margin. Looks like Kia is looking for minimum 5 digits margin. It will be a useful guide for those placing new orders.

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With COE currently at 45k, EX $34k SX $39k, and $10k margins, buyers need to pay at least $89k for EX and $94k for SX in order to have a chance at securing COE. No guarantees if COE goes up during next bidding.

So 84k K3, bid at 40k? Basic cost at 33,600. Expected profit margin is $10,400.

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Seems a bit high, Kia not interested in doing business? I thought it would be closer to 7-8k margin for the K3 EX spec, being a low spec B&B model.�

Maybe now KIA business very good until they are not interested in doing sincere business?

Kia SX at 39k cost price, 40k bid for 10k profit margin. Looks like Kia is looking for minimum 5 digits margin. It will be a useful guide for those placing new orders.

With COE currently at 45k, EX $34k SX $39k, and $10k margins, buyers need to pay at least $89k for EX and $94k for SX in order to have a chance at securing COE. No guarantees if COE goes up during next bidding.

Ya man. I'm going to change mine to guranteed package. Pay another $4k. If not impossible to get car unless wait till the last of 6 bids when AD cannot tahan need to let go the car to have one more sales.

Maybe now KIA business very good until they are not interested in doing sincere business?

Ya shit. Bidding at $40k is obviously not sincere in selling. Sure cannot get coe. Just trying their luck. Now C&C behaves like Sim Lim Sq handphone shops. Many dirty tricks. Low trade in, try to get low coe, let u wait wait wait till last of 6 bids if cannot profit then return deposit.

Maybe now KIA business very good until they are not interested in doing sincere business?

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Don't know what they are thinking. I thought just last year they were pushing out cars with 8k margins. Now they looking for 10k liao.

Don't know what they are thinking. I thought just last year they were pushing out cars with 8k margins. Now they looking for 10k liao.

My car is in the warehouse and they dont want to push out. Is it all ADs are like that?

My car is in the warehouse and they dont want to push out. Is it all ADs are like that?

Just top up lah....no point losing sleep over this

My car is in the warehouse and they dont want to push out. Is it all ADs are like that?

They can sell your car to other person who secure coe?!

They can sell your car to other person who secure coe?!

But they told me already reserved stock. If i get coe and no car ? Gonna f them again.

But they told me already reserved stock. If i get coe and no car ? Gonna f them again.

They say you believe eh? Lol.

I'm sure they give to those who pay higher price with higher profit margin. Sounds logical to do so. So those who pay lower price will have to wait till their 6th bid to see whether they willing to top up for u lo... if u can't wait just top up the difference for guaranteed coe lo..

Curse and swear oso no point...

I'm sure they give to those who pay higher price with higher profit margin. Sounds logical to do so. So those who pay lower price will have to wait till their 6th bid to see whether they willing to top up for u lo... if u can't wait just top up the difference for guaranteed coe lo..

Curse and swear oso no point...

Yup, gonna top up. Hope they don't revise the top up price.

Last year my dad booked K3 and didn't get COE after 6 bids. At one point in time, they wanted him to top up $9K. That's their strategy, lure you in and then ask you to top up. Else, wait for big COE drop or give up. My dad gave up, endured almost one year without car, and is now a happy Vezel owner.

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I am a Kia fan and owned a Koup before. But I don't really like their marketing strategy. If to buy Kia, I would suggest to sign the guaranteed package upfront.

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I am a Kia fan and owned a Koup before. But I don't really like their marketing strategy. If to buy Kia, I would suggest to sign the guaranteed package upfront.

Last year my dad booked K3 and didn't get COE after 6 bids. At one point in time, they wanted him to top up $9K. That's their strategy, lure you in and then ask you to top up. Else, wait for big COE drop or give up. My dad gave up, endured almost one year without car, and is now a happy Vezel owner.

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I am a Kia fan and owned a Koup before. But I don't really like their marketing strategy. If to buy Kia, I would suggest to sign the guaranteed package upfront.

Last year my dad booked K3 and didn't get COE after 6 bids. At one point in time, they wanted him to top up $9K. That's their strategy, lure you in and then ask you to top up. Else, wait for big COE drop or give up. My dad gave up, endured almost one year without car, and is now a happy Vezel owner.

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I am a Kia fan and owned a Koup before. But I don't really like their marketing strategy. If to buy Kia, I would suggest to sign the guaranteed package upfront.

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I am in the same position as coolbluepica, having booked a K3 before the last bidding. My COE rebate is $32k and C&C placed $39,999 for me. I intend to wait for full 6 bids (Mar 1st bidding - May 2nd bidding), hoping for a drop in May due to increased quota.

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Did you monitor the price C&C bidded for your dad? What was the highest bid (amount above COE rebate) that they were willing to go up to?

How much C&C bids depends on how many orders they take in over the past three weeks. And of those orders, how many are guaranteed COE orders. If the guaranteed COE orders are large enough so that by bidding high enough to secure the COEs for these orders, and still make a profit from them, then all those orders with non-guaranteed COE packages are not going to get their COEs. It's quite simple I think. They will wait for the next round, and if there are substantial non-guaranteed COE orders that are not fulfilled then (cos buyers don't want to top up to guaranteed COE packages), they will bid a little higher (and still within the profit margin) and hope that the COE doesn't go up again. Finally, I also believe that they will allow some non-guaranteed COE orders to get their COEs, and this may be dependent on a few factors like, sales staff with better performance may get to use the 'wild card' bid (that is higher than normal bid), or they may have a 'roulette' style draw to determine which non-guaranteed COE order gets the higher bid available. I'm sure there is some mechanism behind all these. The issue is that for Cat A cars, given the rise in COE, I guess that the price would go up again... for Cat B, the COE only went up by $600+, so I guess most companies can hold their prices or just increase by $1000.

I am in the same position as coolbluepica, having booked a K3 before the last bidding. My COE rebate is $32k and C&C placed $39,999 for me. I intend to wait for full 6 bids (Mar 1st bidding - May 2nd bidding), hoping for a drop in May due to increased quota.

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Did you monitor the price C&C bidded for your dad? What was the highest bid (amount above COE rebate) that they were willing to go up to?

This happened last year, Feb to May 2015. I can't remember the numbers.�

How much C&C bids depends on how many orders they take in over the past three weeks. And of those orders, how many are guaranteed COE orders. If the guaranteed COE orders are large enough so that by bidding high enough to secure the COEs for these orders, and still make a profit from them, then all those orders with non-guaranteed COE packages are not going to get their COEs. It's quite simple I think. They will wait for the next round, and if there are substantial non-guaranteed COE orders that are not fulfilled then (cos buyers don't want to top up to guaranteed COE packages), they will bid a little higher (and still within the profit margin) and hope that the COE doesn't go up again. Finally, I also believe that they will allow some non-guaranteed COE orders to get their COEs, and this may be dependent on a few factors like, sales staff with better performance may get to use the 'wild card' bid (that is higher than normal bid), or they may have a 'roulette' style draw to determine which non-guaranteed COE order gets the higher bid available. I'm sure there is some mechanism behind all these. The issue is that for Cat A cars, given the rise in COE, I guess that the price would go up again... for Cat B, the COE only went up by $600+, so I guess most companies can hold their prices or just increase by $1000.

Yes, so Kia's strategy is to price their car lower and most won't be able to get COE. In the end, the low premium for Kia cars stated in sgcarmart is not a true reflection of the actual premium paid by the owners.

Yup, gonna top up. Hope they don't revise the top up price.

Top up lar..What's the point of wasting time if cannot get coe?

Pumped my 2nd full tank yesterday.

Distance travelled: 445KM

Fuel pumped: 40.82litre

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Which worked out to be 10.9l/100KM, instant fuel consumption shows: 8.2l/100KM

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Not really accurate IMO, will continue to monitor.

I will be going to my 1K servicing soon.

If you scroll to the earlier pages this forum to year 2015, many K3 buyer mostly secure their COE in first or second bid non-guaranteed package, not much of a problem. For myself, i secured my COE non-guaranteed package during my 2nd bid in December 2015.�

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Not sure why recently the bid so low. Maybe SE all hit their sales quota already.

Pumped my 2nd full tank yesterday.

Distance travelled: 445KM

Fuel pumped: 40.82litre

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Which worked out to be 10.9l/100KM, instant fuel consumption shows: 8.2l/100KM

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Not really accurate IMO, will continue to monitor.

I will be going to my 1K servicing soon.

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I think your 10.9 is in KM/L.

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you must do a manual reset after you pump, if not go to the menu setting, set the auto reset, so it will reset automatically.

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The instant fuel consumption for mine, not fully accurate, plus minus with my manual calculation.

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anw, FC will stablise after 1K servicing. Now run in period, FC still on the high side. My mileage now 3K plus, FC is quite constant for every tank.

Edited by BullsEye, 10 March 2016 - 01:09 PM.

If you scroll to the earlier pages this forum to year 2015, many K3 buyer mostly secure their COE in first or second bid non-guaranteed package, not much of a problem. For myself, i secured my COE non-guaranteed package during my 2nd bid in December 2015.

Not sure why recently the bid so low. Maybe SE all hit their sales quota already.

I think your 10.9 is in KM/L.

you must do a manual reset after you pump, if not go to the menu setting, set the auto reset, so it will reset automatically.

The instant fuel consumption for mine, not fully accurate, plus minus with my manual calculation.

anw, FC will stablise after 1K servicing. Now run in period, FC still on the high side. My mileage now 3K plus, FC is quite constant for every tank.

Alamak always mix up with the km/l and l/km reading haha

Yes i will continue to monitor and update on the FC after the 1k servicing! :)

Did he bought the guranteed package?

Mine SX $89k bid at $40k. I called the SE and f*** , r they not interested in getting coe, how can bid at $40k?!

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Non-Gteed! 8 bid package some more! impressed with Subaru man

I am in the same position as coolbluepica, having booked a K3 before the last bidding. My COE rebate is $32k and C&C placed $39,999 for me. I intend to wait for full 6 bids (Mar 1st bidding - May 2nd bidding), hoping for a drop in May due to increased quota.

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Did you monitor the price C&C bidded for your dad? What was the highest bid (amount above COE rebate) that they were willing to go up to?

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oh the 39999 bid is normal. We got the K3 during the Motorshow 1st bid also 39999. Second bid was 43999 got it the previous round.�

I am in the same position as coolbluepica, having booked a K3 before the last bidding. My COE rebate is $32k and C&C placed $39,999 for me. I intend to wait for full 6 bids (Mar 1st bidding - May 2nd bidding), hoping for a drop in May due to increased quota.

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Did you monitor the price C&C bidded for your dad? What was the highest bid (amount above COE rebate) that they were willing to go up to?

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cccccccccc, does your SE happen to have the initials JL ?�

oh the 39999 bid is normal. We got the K3 during the Motorshow 1st bid also 39999. Second bid was 43999 got it the previous round.�

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What was your rebate level? Mine is $32k, which I think is lower than yours. That's why I am afraid C&C may increase the bid price at smaller increments (or not at all) in the coming bids.

Edited by cccccccc, 10 March 2016 - 03:16 PM.

cccccccccc, does your SE happen to have the initials JL ?�

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Hmm no, not JL.

Hmm no, not JL.

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I also got it before the last bidding. COE rebate 32K And 1st bid yesterday at 39,999.... Hope this round is for them to clear the back lot and hopefully can secure it next round liao lor....

What was your rebate level? Mine is $32k, which I think is lower than yours. That's why I am afraid C&C may increase the bid price at smaller increments (or not at all) in the coming bids.

Change to guarantee package. What for waste your time after 6bids?

Change to guarantee package. What for waste your time after 6bids?

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Not in urgent need of the new ride. I am the type who drives 10-years full. Current ride expires early June.

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I may consider topping up, if by the 4th bid I see no hope of COE dropping and the top up price is reasonable ($4k max, which is the difference between platinum and standard when I booked). Otherwise, I will endure till the end. In the worst case (unsuccessful after 6 bids), just book a guaranteed package after May 2nd bidding. At most go car-less for a few bids. See first...

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I am not complaining about how C&C is bidding for me. I expected this already when I book the non-guaranteed.

This happened last year, Feb to May 2015. I can't remember the numbers.�

Yes, so Kia's strategy is to price their car lower and most won't be able to get COE. In the end, the low premium for Kia cars stated in sgcarmart is not a true reflection of the actual premium paid by the owners.

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That is the case for all makes mah...

That is the case for all makes mah...

Not for Subaru and Mazda

Mine might not be applicable but mayb can serve as a ref too.� I booked a diesel carens when the coe was 38k, non gtee package with rebate level of only 30k.� But�they bidded 42k for me and didn't revise the bid.� So I didn't get the 45k COE.� In the end, they offered me a 44k Cat E with a corresponding value of the 38k coe, without any top up.

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So there is still hope that Kia wants your biz. Mayb a few more bids.

collecting my car this saturday. any tips on what to look out for guys?
also, any existing k3 owners did engine run in? and advise on that?

Edited by germ0227, 11 March 2016 - 12:05 AM.

Not for Subaru and Mazda

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All car makes give discounts and ask you to top up too... so it's all the same...�

collecting my car this saturday. any tips on what to look out for guys?
also, any existing k3 owners did engine run in? and advise on that?

applies to all new cars..
Keep rpm below 3K. Avoid driving at constant rpm. Dun race the car....can be found in car manual..

dun need to keep to certain speed as myth said.. as long as the rpm keep below 3K it's fine. My practise is to be gentle on the car and rev up to 3-4k once in a while to season the throttle.

During 1k servicing they will flush out any impurities in the engines easily..once your engine seasoned and changed to synthetic..ready to go....

Edited by Kwoni, 11 March 2016 - 12:48 PM.

anyone notice differences in the showroom and testdrive unit to the one advertised online and also the brochure?�

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the difference i spotted are mainly the dashboard:

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1) as advertised, the dashboard seems to be digital for the petrol and temperature gauge while the showroom and testdrive units were all analog.

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2) as advertised, the information screen in between the tachometer and speedmometer seems to be different as well, coming horizontally and coloured while the showroom and testdrive unit were vertical mono-coloured.

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So in exact, which version will we be getting?

Edited by LuminouX, 11 March 2016 - 01:44 PM.

anyone notice differences in the showroom and testdrive unit to the one advertised online and also the brochure?

the difference i spotted are mainly the dashboard:

1) as advertised, the dashboard seems to be digital for the petrol and temperature gauge while the showroom and testdrive units were all analog.

2) as advertised, the information screen in between the tachometer and speedmometer seems to be different as well, coming horizontally and coloured while the showroom and testdrive unit were vertical mono-coloured.

So in exact, which version will we be getting?

1) analog meters.
2) vertical no color.

anyone notice differences in the showroom and testdrive unit to the one advertised online and also the brochure?�

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the difference i spotted are mainly the dashboard:

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1) as advertised, the dashboard seems to be digital for the petrol and temperature gauge while the showroom and testdrive units were all analog.

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2) as advertised, the information screen in between the tachometer and speedmometer seems to be different as well, coming horizontally and coloured while the showroom and testdrive unit were vertical mono-coloured.

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So in exact, which version will we be getting?

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Didn't pay much attention to that. As long as the necessary information is displayed, either in digital or analog, I accept :)

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I went to the showroom twice, and they changed the SX display model between my visits. During first visit, I noticed the headrest for rest passengers were not very comfortable (some noticeable space between head and the headrest, to rest the head makes your body posture unnatural). However, on the second visit, the new display model showed better headrest which are comfortable to rest on.

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Perhaps you should clarify with your SE if the display bothers you?

it doesn't bother me much though but just feel if there's a change in these, the advertisement (at least) and the brouchure needs to amend.�

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What about those "Welcome Light" which i did not see it in the showroom, i believed it's removed as well?

applies to all new cars..
Keep rpm below 3K. Avoid driving at constant rpm. Dun race the car....can be found in car manual..

dun need to keep to certain speed as myth said.. as long as the rpm keep below 3K it's fine. My practise is to be gentle on the car and rev up to 3-4k once in a while to season the throttle.

During 1k servicing they will flush out any impurities in the engines easily..once your engine seasoned and changed to synthetic..ready to go....

thanks alot for the tip! how about during collection? anythin i should/ should not do?

i get the lower down payment scheme from CnC inhouse finance.. PM me for more details...

PM sent too.�

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Thanks in advance.. [rolleyes]

it doesn't bother me much though but just feel if there's a change in these, the advertisement (at least) and the brouchure needs to amend.�

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What about those "Welcome Light" which i did not see it in the showroom, i believed it's removed as well?

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Welcome light still have, for SX model only.

C&C�couldn't be bothered to change the specs in the brochure laa. specs keep changing like a chameleon.�its still the�SAME brochure I have since 2013 iirc..... [furious]

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it doesn't bother me much though but just feel if there's a change in these, the advertisement (at least) and the brouchure needs to amend.�

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What about those "Welcome Light" which i did not see it in the showroom, i believed it's removed as well?

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Edited by Blublak, 11 March 2016 - 04:03 PM.

C&C�couldn't be bothered to change the specs in the brochure laa. specs keep changing like a chameleon.�its still the�SAME brochure I have since 2013 iirc.....

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YA! brouchure i understand, they do not want to reprint, but website....

Failed again.. they bid $40k twice..

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Get ready for top-up 'trick'. They know the anxiety of the long waiting for the unknown. Unless in a hurry to get car, mai kan cheong, COE is not going anywhere.

LTA should consider to run the bidding weekly, this will help reduce anxiety. If toto can be ran twice a week, why LTA cannot do weekly? ��

PM sent too.�

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Thanks in advance..

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PM me for more details

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