If no breakdowns for a straight 6 months, then I will be surprised.
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Breaking down is the norm.
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North East Line train service disrupted for almost 2 hours due to power fault
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SINGAPORE � Train service was disrupted along the North East Line (NEL) today (Oct 26) due to a power fault, said SBS Transit on its official Twitter account.
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Following a series of Twitter updates detailing the disruption, SBS Transit first announced that there were no trains running between Punggol and Harbourfront stations in both directions on the NEL at 5:23am.�
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Free bus services have been made available at designated bus stops along the NEL line, SBS Transit said.
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As of 7:05am, services have partially resumed,�with train service�from Punggol to HarbourFront now available.
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At 7:21am, SBS Transit announced that service from HarbourFront to Punggol has resumed.�
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An additional travelling time of 10 minutes is expected, SBS said,�adding that free bus rides and�shuttle bus services will still be made�available.
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http://www.todayonli...due-power-fault
Shop-keepers working in MRT stations could assist during rail breakdowns, moots Khaw
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Shop-keepers could�help guide commuters to the right bus stop or to the right queue, which will in turn help to reduce confusion among commuters during a rail breakdown, said Mr Khaw Boon Wan. He has asked the LTA, SMRT and SBS Transit to think through the idea.
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SINGAPORE: To assist station staff during a rail breakdown, Transport Minister�Khaw Boon Wan has brought up the possibility that shop-keepers working in the stations can be roped in to help out.
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Mr Khaw said that these shop-keepers could�help guide commuters to the right bus stop or to the right queue, which will in turn help to reduce confusion among commuters. This will in turn help the handful of station staff who will have to deal with large crowds while�awaiting reinforcements from other stations and supporting agencies.
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In a blog post on Saturday (Oct 24) titled "The First Hour", the Transport Minister said that he has asked the Land Transport Authority, SMRT and SBS Transit to think through the idea to see if it is practical.
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Mr Khaw said the idea came from Senior Minister of State Josephine Teo after the recent Changi Airport emergency exercise, Exercise Bobcat. He said he saw how the Changi Airport Group, Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore and all the stakeholders worked together to plan the exercise, put the plan into action and learn from it.
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"SMS Josephine Teo suggested that we work together with the shop-keepers working in the station, with a view to them playing a role in contingency plans," he said. "Even if it is simply to help guide the commuters to the right bus stop or to the right queue, it will be a great help to reduce confusion amongst commuters."
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He noted that the suggestion would require the authorities to "proactively share clear information and instructions" with the shop-keepers.
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"This also means that we work together as one family ... during normal times, much like close neighbours who will not hesitate to chip in and help when help is needed," he said.
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"This is the kampung spirit that we must inculcate in every MRT station. It will not be easy to forge such a culture, and it will take time, but it is the right direction to take."
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The Transport Minister added that this �family-ness� will be important not just during train breakdowns, but will be "even more critical" during a terrorist attack on the rail system.
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- CNA/av
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http://www.channelne...in/2214702.html
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First need SAF, now need shop keepers too�... I am really deeply concerned now ...
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Shopkeepers should also learn to push the train, when the train is down.
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wah jualat...today 1st day of O levels too
COMMUTERS AFFECTED
The disruption occurred on the morning of the O level A Math paper. When asked at 6.40am, student Brendan Lew, 16, said his school had not informed students of what to do in event of a disruption.
"I don't think they expect a major breakdown to happen - or at worst a minor one," said Lew, 16, whose exam was due to start that morning. He boarded the shuttle bus instead.
"I don't really take buses, it's a great impact. If I'm too late I guess it will affect if I can take my O levels or not. But I'm not too worried - I'm still quite early."
Some complained that instructions and signs were not clear, despite the transport authorities and train operators�recently holding exercises�to test their emergency plans in event of a major disruption.
"It's very troublesome - I didn't know where to go! I work at Tuas, I don't know how to get there now," a female commuter who declined to be named told Channel NewsAsia.
Others were more sanguine about the situation.
"It will affect us in some way, of course. Where I work, I can also take the Circle Line. Sometimes - like during the previous breakdown - at times I take that line," said Ms Candy Chew, 49, a senior logistics assistant.
"I think this breakdown couldn't be helped, it's not a human fault. It's just like the human body, or things we use every day - it will break down sometimes. We can't blame the MRT personnel or the company running the lines; we must be understanding."
Seems like candy chew drank too much cool aid
Shopkeepers should also learn to push the train, when the train is down.
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while SMRT management sit in aircon room ... haha ...
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when we are needed, they invoke kampong spirit ...
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when SMRT make money, they rewards themselves well, the kampong folks are forgotten.
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reality.
"I think this breakdown couldn't be helped, it's not a human fault. It's just like the human body, or things we use every day - it will break down sometimes. We can't blame the MRT personnel or the company running the lines; we must be understanding."
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Breakdowns occur so many times that Singaporeans are accepting it as a norm? That is sad.... Lucky HK is not like that
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Breakdowns occur so many times that Singaporeans are accepting it as a norm? That is sad.... Lucky HK is not like that
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Ms Candy Chew, 49
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Power fault again? I thought it happened last 2 weeks before liao?
Shopkeepers should also learn to push the train, when the train is down.
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Then like dat , shopkeepers have to go for training and staff too; then they should get rent discount for that day or everytime they have to shutter the shop to help out; But its difficult as many of the staff are temps here too; and some of the stuff they sell is perishable too �and has to be sold off �within the same day
Edited by BanCoe, 26 October 2015 - 09:12 AM.
the papers compare our mrt maintiance to h.k
we spend millions,
hk spend billions.
Power fault again? I thought it happened last 2 weeks before liao?
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its the new normal� ...
Breakdowns occur so many times that Singaporeans are accepting it as a norm? That is sad.... Lucky HK is not like that
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same like the haze situation...nowadays <200psi �nobody puts on masks anymore
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Penny wise, pound foolish - which is a norm in all local companies... Save on maintenance, manpower cost but SPEND on CEO and Board's bonuses...
NE line have so many problems lately.
NE line have so many problems lately.
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Yes, probably because everybody thought maintenance was sexy so was very lax. Now that KBW came out and said it's not sexy, likely will work harder and become better
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the papers compare our mrt maintiance to h.k
we spend millions,
hk spend billions.
If HK spend A Billion in HKD it might be just only SGD 500 million ( i mean exchange rate terms); All i know is that they have a very solid crack team working thoughout the day on checking checking and checking �and readying an �hour before the train departs�
Edited by BanCoe, 26 October 2015 - 09:43 AM.
And they wanna have lesser cars on the road, I think should fix the basics first, until there is reliability in public transport, private transport isn't a luxury but necessity,
Car-lite...
MRT too heavy...�
Car-lite...
MRT too heavy...�
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Haha ,,, wait next time train fare is based on distance�travelled + loading for each additional Kg over desired BMI�...
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Cos heavy folks add stress to the system and the eventual maintenance cost.
How come the lately breakdown on NE line only happen during the morning peak?
heng i moved out of sengkang
Hope no bros or sis are affected by this breakdown on a hazy Monday ...
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And really Khaw can sit down and address the fundamentals of the problems... there is no easy solution, just need time and patience... but hopefully there will be minimal impact when they undergone maintenance or overhaul ...
If HK spend A Billion in HKD it might be just only SGD 500 million ( i mean exchange rate terms); All i know is that they have a very solid crack team working thoughout the day on checking checking and checking �and readying an �hour before the train departs�
ya good point, i forgot to see the comparison is it all in sgd, will go read the artica again tonight.
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but while the new transport minister want to compare us to hk. �i think alot more work need to be done down the years,
From a once in a blue moon affair to monthly affair and now to weekly affair.
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MRT have to maintain their reliability KPI of break-down once a month!
Else, people may complaint! ha ha ha
I got caught up in the breakdown this morning -�
walked into Kovan MRT at around 8:15 -�
once inside the fare gates, heard the announcement, saw a queue of around 20-30 people at each door.�
Train interval was 6 minutes.�
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Turned around and went back out (84 cents!!) and walked to Nex...
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1. No announcement / barrier / notification on the way in of the problems (at Kovan - with that sort of situation I would estimate at least three trains before can board)�
2. No notification of the free shuttle service
3. This is my first time being affected by train breakdown - still not too bad, is only a 20 minute walk to the next station (I actually wanted to take circle line)�
I got caught up in the breakdown this morning -�
walked into Kovan MRT at around 8:15 -�
once inside the fare gates, heard the announcement, saw a queue of around 20-30 people at each door.�
Train interval was 6 minutes.�
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Turned around and went back out (84 cents!!) and walked to Nex...
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1. No announcement / barrier / notification on the way in of the problems (at Kovan - with that sort of situation I would estimate at least three trains before can board)�
2. No notification of the free shuttle service
3. This is my first time being affected by train breakdown - still not too bad, is only a 20 minute walk to the next station (I actually wanted to take circle line)�
Maybe this morning breakdown doesn't consider breakdown cause the train is still running. Breakdown to them means the whole system come to a complete stop.�Lol.�
Maybe this morning breakdown doesn't consider breakdown cause the train is still running. Breakdown to them means the whole system come to a complete stop.�Lol.�
Nope - I got halfway there and saw the free shuttles running...
Well, at least someone is making sense...
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http://www.channelne...at/2218026.html
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Quote, "Mr Tan asked the Land Transport Authority and Singapore's train operators: �Have you ever tried using third party consultants supplemented by independent street smart, sharp-eyed operating engineers who have years of experience on the job? If we have not done so, then we can never get on top of the current problem... As the system ages, more rats will appear and we will never get over this. Only way is to bring in the rat catchers."
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But hopefully the cost does not translate to higher fares...�
Well, at least someone is making sense...
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http://www.channelne...at/2218026.html
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Quote, "Mr Tan asked the Land Transport Authority and Singapore's train operators: �Have you ever tried using third party consultants supplemented by independent street smart, sharp-eyed operating engineers who have years of experience on the job? If we have not done so, then we can never get on top of the current problem... As the system ages, more rats will appear and we will never get over this. Only way is to bring in the rat catchers."
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But hopefully the cost does not translate to higher fares...�
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Like each rat will cost you $522 in increased train fare, as in the bukit batok case.. Lol....
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Seriously, calling the rail engineers as rat catchers is insulting to say the least.....�
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Just natonalise the bloody PUBLIC transport for christ's sake.
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How to spend on maintenance�COST when they have to keep a lookout for profit and shareholder's interest?
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Just natonalise the bloody PUBLIC transport for christ's sake.
How to spend on maintenance COST when they have to keep a lookout for profit and shareholder's interest?
Yup. Should ... But looks like can't be done lor ...
Like each rat will cost you $522 in increased train fare, as in the bukit batok case.. Lol....
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Seriously, calling the rail engineers as rat catchers is insulting to say the least.....�
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It is taken out of context.
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Read the whole article:
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There was another disruption this morning. Such breakdowns tarnish our reputation, and we are re-doubling our efforts to improve train reliability. Singaporeans deserve better.
Mr Tan Gee Paw sent me this email recently. His years of experience and insights showed through, as he advised generally on rail reliability:
�When we engage consultants to design a system for us, they follow Codes of Practice and established design practices. When breakdowns become frequent, engaging a third party consultant or external team of engineers to do a thorough check on the system should not be the only solution. They will use the same codes of practice and design practices and often conclude the system is by and large intact and what happened was unfortunate and can easily be rectified.
But that is not the issue. We have to go beyond codes of practice and do preventive risk analysis on the entire system.
To do this, we need to engage street-smart, sharp-eyed practising engineers in systems engineering for rails alongside the third party consultant. They are the ones who will walk through the system and spot the risky parts of the system, beyond the codes of practice and alert us on what modifications must be made urgently.
I call such engineers the rat catchers.� I learnt this lesson way back in the 80s. We worked alongside top German consultants to design our first refuse incineration plant that generates electricity. All parts were meticulously designed to the established codes of practice. A year later, the whole plant suffered a massive total shut down. A rat had tried to jump across two bus bars and short circuited the entire plant. The bus bars were spaced according to standards, but no one was sharp-eyed enough to think a rat would jump across.�
He posed this sharp question to LTA and our operators:��Have you ever tried using third party consultants supplemented by independent street smart, sharp-eyed operating engineers who have years of experience on the job? If we have not done so, then we can never get on top of the current problem. As the system ages, more rats will appear and we will never get over this. Only way is to bring in the rat catchers. We do this in the sewerage system, and we have in PUB engineers who know what must be done beyond the standard codes of practice. Unfortunately our experience is not in rail systems, but nonetheless I will ask my departments if they think they can be of some help in rat catching for rail systems. But you must do a risk analysis on the entire system using street smart, sharp-eyed rat catchers.�
He stressed: �Unless we can get this done quickly, pouring massive engineering manpower to beef up maintenance will never get us out of this mess. No amount of good maintenance can make up for rats running around. It will be most frustrating.�
That is why I asked Mr Tan to be our Advisor. With his assistance, we will tackle this problem of rail reliability.
Please visit the�MOT Facebook�to leave a comment!�
i am so glad not many are complaining.
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give credits when due when the trains are running smoothly most of the the time.
just like indo giving us the oxygen when their forest is not on flame.
It is taken out of context.
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Read the whole article:
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There was another disruption this morning. Such breakdowns tarnish our reputation, and we are re-doubling our efforts to improve train reliability. Singaporeans deserve better.
Mr Tan Gee Paw sent me this email recently. His years of experience and insights showed through, as he advised generally on rail reliability:
�When we engage consultants to design a system for us, they follow Codes of Practice and established design practices. When breakdowns become frequent, engaging a third party consultant or external team of engineers to do a thorough check on the system should not be the only solution. They will use the same codes of practice and design practices and often conclude the system is by and large intact and what happened was unfortunate and can easily be rectified.
But that is not the issue. We have to go beyond codes of practice and do preventive risk analysis on the entire system.
To do this, we need to engage street-smart, sharp-eyed practising engineers in systems engineering for rails alongside the third party consultant. They are the ones who will walk through the system and spot the risky parts of the system, beyond the codes of practice and alert us on what modifications must be made urgently.
I call such engineers the rat catchers.� I learnt this lesson way back in the 80s. We worked alongside top German consultants to design our first refuse incineration plant that generates electricity. All parts were meticulously designed to the established codes of practice. A year later, the whole plant suffered a massive total shut down. A rat had tried to jump across two bus bars and short circuited the entire plant. The bus bars were spaced according to standards, but no one was sharp-eyed enough to think a rat would jump across.�
He posed this sharp question to LTA and our operators:��Have you ever tried using third party consultants supplemented by independent street smart, sharp-eyed operating engineers who have years of experience on the job? If we have not done so, then we can never get on top of the current problem. As the system ages, more rats will appear and we will never get over this. Only way is to bring in the rat catchers. We do this in the sewerage system, and we have in PUB engineers who know what must be done beyond the standard codes of practice. Unfortunately our experience is not in rail systems, but nonetheless I will ask my departments if they think they can be of some help in rat catching for rail systems. But you must do a risk analysis on the entire system using street smart, sharp-eyed rat catchers.�
He stressed: �Unless we can get this done quickly, pouring massive engineering manpower to beef up maintenance will never get us out of this mess. No amount of good maintenance can make up for rats running around. It will be most frustrating.�
That is why I asked Mr Tan to be our Advisor. With his assistance, we will tackle this problem of rail reliability.
Please visit the�MOT Facebook�to leave a comment!�
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Just natonalise the bloody PUBLIC transport for christ's sake.
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How to spend on maintenance�COST when they have to keep a lookout for profit and shareholder's interest?
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The MRT network is more like over-worked than under maintain.
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Bring in more ppl la...
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Go car lite la...
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Cut motorcycles�COE quota la..
(Knn, give ppl a break la..)
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Add more toll to the rail�system...
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Lets see whats gonna happen...
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i am so glad not many are complaining.
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give credits when due when the trains are running smoothly most of the the time.
just like indo giving us the oxygen when their forest is not on flame.
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comprain for what?
there is no need to comprain
comprain for what?
there is no need to comprain
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You are forcing me to post Kenneth Jayaratnam photo bro.
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I....must....resist.
like the origin of computer bug
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I would like to believe but the thing is UNREAL FACTS leh.
they need to dig dig bigger tunnel and make double decker MRT
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peasants have no grounds to complain about train breakdowns
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here you go...
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SINGAPORE - Bus and train card fares will drop by up to four cents a journey from Dec 27, the Public Transport Council (PTC) announced on Friday after its latest annual review.
The adjustment, which takes into account last year's drop in oil prices, is timed to coincide with the opening of Downtown Line 2, and is four months earlier than usual.
The reduction amounts to a maximum 1.9 per cent cut allowed in a fare formula that weighs inflation, wage increase and fuel or energy prices. It will impact SBS Transit's revenue by $15.7 million, and SMRT's by $20.4 million.
The fare cut comes after substantial rises in the two previous adjustments, which saw fares rising by 3.2 and 2.8 per cent respectively.
Card-paying adults will see their fares drop by one to four cents from Dec 27, students by one to two cents, and senior citizens by one to two cents.
A family of two adults and two school-going children is thus likely to see monthly household fare expenditure fall by around $15.
� Current Fare New Fare Adult Card Fare $1.66 $1.62(-4 cents) Senior Citizen Concession Card Fare $0.90 $0.88
(-2 cents) Student Concession Card Fare $0.61 $0.59
(-2 cents)
PTC chairman Richard Magnus said: "This year's decision to reduce fares for commuters is in line with the negative quantum yielded by the fare adjustment formula due to lower energy prices. We have decided to grant the full quantum of reduction to benefit commuters and to keep fares affordable."
Low-wage workers will pay one to four cents less, while people with disabilities will pay one to two cents less. Both groups will continue to get fare concessions, but monthly concession and off-peak passes for the latter will remain unchanged at $60 and $40 respectively.
Commuters who pay cash, said to constitute only 3 per cent of all the total, will not see any reduction, though. Mr Magnus said this was to encourage people to pay by card.
As their revenue is contracting because of the latest fare adjustment, the two transport operators are not required to contribute to the Public Transport Fund this round. The fund is used to disburse vouchers to needy families to help them defray fare increases.
Separately, Mr Magnus said the council will decide how to adjust fares next year when the contracting model for buses kicks in. In such a model, an operator is paid a fixed sum to run a package of routes by the Land Transport Authority, which in turn collects fare revenue. The operation is usually subsidised by taxpayers, making it more complex to accrue cost and compensation.
The current fare formula takes into account changes in inflation rate, wages and an energy index that charts oil and electricity costs - all of which are proxies for costs faced by an operator. The first two components are given a 40 per cent weighting each, while energy has a 20 per cent weighting.
A productivity extraction of 0.5 per cent is then deducted from the derived figure. This is to allow commuters to share in the transport operators' productivity gain.
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The MRT network is more like over-worked than under maintain.
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Bring in more ppl la...
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Go car lite la...
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Cut motorcycles�COE quota la..
(Knn, give ppl a break la..)
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Add more toll to the rail�system...
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Lets see whats gonna happen...
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this?
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http://www.channelne...es/2217986.html
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SINGAPORE: Electronic Road Pricing (ERP) rates will be raised at three gantries along the Ayer Rajah Expressway (AYE), the Land Transport Authority (LTA) said in its latest quarterly review of traffic conditions on Monday (Oct 26).
From Nov 2, motorists who pass through three gantries on the AYE after Jurong Town Hall towards the city between 6pm and 6.30pm will have to pay S$2. The current fee is S$1 for each gantry.
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timing of the announcement is epic
this?
http://www.channelne...es/2217986.html
SINGAPORE: Electronic Road Pricing (ERP) rates will be raised at three gantries along the Ayer Rajah Expressway (AYE), the Land Transport Authority (LTA) said in its latest quarterly review of traffic conditions on Monday (Oct 26).
From Nov 2, motorists who pass through three gantries on the AYE after Jurong Town Hall towards the city between 6pm and 6.30pm will have to pay S$2. The current fee is S$1 for each gantry.
timing of the announcement is epic
There will never be a situation where consumers pay less overall
NEL is only 10 years old and it can breakdown twice within space of 3 weeks....ridiculous! this indirectly show maintenance is sloppy or OPEX has been shortchange all this while.....
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Look at Japan rail system, railway tracks and trains are old but in tip top conditions and they are ferrying millions of commuters around the country...my buddy whom stay in Tokyo for 2 years.... he never encountered any major disruption and even for minor ones, they recover very fast. That is the commitment and pride the Japaneses has for their product up keeping.
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When I was holiday in Tokyo for a week, if the electronic signboard said "Train arrived at 1750", it will do so at that time accurately regardless peak or offpeak. never once I encountered the train was late....
If SG want to improve, learn from the Japanese! there is a reason why Thailand railway system is powered by Japanese consultancy and engineering and at the moment Vietnam, Ho chi Ming City first railway system is build by Japanese, using their rich experience and expertise.
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First the overall reliability have to be up, than next punctuality. �
The Japan public transport system is something we can only dream of for now.
we are paying the price now for neglecting our engineers and engineering industry
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look at who are in these engineering jobs now
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that's why we don't have expert rat catchers, all the experts are gone or have changed careers
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we are paying the price now for neglecting our engineers and engineering industry
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look at who are in these engineering jobs now
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that's why we don't have expert rat catchers, all the experts are gone or have changed careers
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just like the:
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First the overall reliability have to be up, than next punctuality. �
The Japan public transport system is something we can only dream of for now.
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i always watch Japan train video. very happening one.�
This is very concerning ......... SMRT / LTA cannot fix its own problem and must depend on 3rd parties. So is leadership a big ? hanging in the air ... �maybe we should also include PUB now since SMRT kept saying its a power fault . �
Jiak lat.
NEL cause trouble, SMRT kena whack!
Not fair!!!!!!!
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NEL Not maintain by smrt meh ?
Jiak lat.
NEL cause trouble, SMRT kena whack!
Not fair!!!!!!!
Jiak lat.
NEL cause trouble, SMRT kena whack!
Not fair!!!!!!!
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NEL Not maintain by smrt meh ?
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In reality, nope. It is operated by SBS Transit.
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https://www.sbstrans...l_overview.aspx
NEL Not maintain by smrt meh ?
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you don't use public transportation much, do you?
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Also need to overhaul the management system, lessen admin work and red tape for the engineers and let them concentrate on implementing solutions.
I suspect the way the company is run is still very much like public service or glc where there is a lot of admin, red tape, layers upon layers of directors, and not enough working people...
Hahah nope ... i dont wan to smell people armpits hahhaa... and many women like to squeese my bum , so need to avoid waahahaa
you don't use public transportation much, do you?
Hmmm thanks ... i thought maintenance was by 1 company.
In reality, nope. It is operated by SBS Transit.
https://www.sbstrans...l_overview.aspx
you don't use public transportation much, do you?
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we are paying the price now for neglecting our engineers and engineering industry
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look at who are in these engineering jobs now
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that's why we don't have expert rat catchers, all the experts are gone or have changed careers
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Cheaper, Better, Faster?
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SBS and SMRT both not from same origin ?�
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Hmmm ... let me try to explain a bit from what I can recall.
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Long ago, there was Singapore Bus Service (the iconic red and white buses), the main service provider.
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There was also City Shuttle Service, a few routes with the yellow single door buses (Mercedes I think). And also a blue colour bus company which operated like (or by ? I really�cannot recall)�City Shuttle Service. Both had less than 8 routes combined and mainly ran from suburbs to CBD.
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Along the way came TIBS, a second bus company with the yellow and beige colours. To cater to increasing needs of little red dot.
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Then came MRT and that was under SMRT.
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So essentially, there was SBS, TIBS and SMRT. Which was quite straightforward.
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Then there was this multimodal and competition idea so I think SMRT and TIBS merged or something and it was also decided that SMRT would not have a monopoly over the rail system. Hence we have some parts operated by SMRT and some parts operated by SBS Transit. DTL is operated by SBS Transit, which also operates NEL. So in essence, 2 big players will offer rail, bus and taxi services. Not sure whether the assets still under the respective operators or under LTA though.
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Something like that ...
Now engineers are called rat catchers (in hokkien it is called kio sai aka cleaning the shitty mess left behind) lagi no one want to be engineers!
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Better off go count money in a bank, banksters sounds much cooler and make more money surrounded by chiobus.
NEL is only 10 years old and it can breakdown twice within space of 3 weeks....ridiculous! this indirectly show maintenance is sloppy or OPEX has been shortchange all this while.....
Look at Japan rail system, railway tracks and trains are old but in tip top conditions and they are ferrying millions of commuters around the country...my buddy whom stay in Tokyo for 2 years.... he never encountered any major disruption and even for minor ones, they recover very fast. That is the commitment and pride the Japaneses has for their product up keeping.
When I was holiday in Tokyo for a week, if the electronic signboard said "Train arrived at 1750", it will do so at that time accurately regardless peak or offpeak. never once I encountered the train was late....
If SG want to improve, learn from the Japanese! there is a reason why Thailand railway system is powered by Japanese consultancy and engineering and at the moment Vietnam, Ho chi Ming City first railway system is build by Japanese, using their rich experience and expertise.
Make a guess what infrastructure was built and maintained by the Japanese and hardly ever breaks down?
The ERP gantry.
Well, I would say at least he is already moving in the right direction to beef up the engineering and maintenance team, I think give him some time, and we should see a more reliable system ( I hope ).
Beef up with who? Can hardly find any good engineers these days. The good ones for sure will not want to jump into a shit hole to clear shit. They are more valued elsewhere. The peanuts they get paid in SMRT will never make up for the stress and finger pointing as the system keeps breaking down.
waaaa you a big fan of LTA hor kekekek Thank you for the background .�
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Yes I recall SBS and TIBS were merged and later won the NEL . Why so ... hmmm can be anyone's guess. From co operation point of view, it does not make sense to have NEL run by another party.
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As far as I can remember or thought to be so �, SBS / TIBS and SMRT were all part of LTA .�
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Hmmm ... let me try to explain a bit from what I can recall.
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Long ago, there was Singapore Bus Service (the iconic red and white buses), the main service provider.
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There was also City Shuttle Service, a few routes with the yellow single door buses (Mercedes I think). And also a blue colour bus company which operated like (or by ? I really�cannot recall)�City Shuttle Service. Both had less than 8 routes combined and mainly ran from suburbs to CBD.
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Along the way came TIBS, a second bus company with the yellow and beige colours. To cater to increasing needs of little red dot.
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Then came MRT and that was under SMRT.
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So essentially, there was SBS, TIBS and SMRT. Which was quite straightforward.
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Then there was this multimodal and competition idea so I think SMRT and TIBS merged or something and it was also decided that SMRT would not have a monopoly over the rail system. Hence we have some parts operated by SMRT and some parts operated by SBS Transit. DTL is operated by SBS Transit, which also operates NEL. So in essence, 2 big players will offer rail, bus and taxi services. Not sure whether the assets still under the respective operators or under LTA though.
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Something like that ...
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Make a guess what infrastructure was built and maintained by the Japanese and hardly ever breaks down?
The ERP gantry.
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Make a guess what infrastructure was built and maintained by the Japanese and hardly ever breaks down?
The ERP gantry.
Didnt know ERP gantry is built and maintained by Japanese?! 
LTA kenal fine how much ah ?
Didnt know ERP gantry is built and maintained by Japanese?!
Mitsubishi heavy.
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Ours can beep beep beep only. No wonder drivers so piss off...horn horn horn.
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In JP, you pass through toll booths (similar to MY), can choose cash or cashcard. No IU, go to cash lane.
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Didnt know ERP gantry is built and maintained by Japanese?!
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However much sensors, data, monitoring one can do, they mean NOTHING if there's no one who can understand how the data are collected, what they mean, and how they could go wrong. Applies to any company.
However much sensors, data, monitoring one can do, they mean NOTHING if there's no one who can understand how the data are collected, what they mean, and how they could go wrong. Applies to any company.
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Yup, same problems keep happening on the MRT, power failure, signalling fault ...
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My concern is the experienced staff have left and the newbies don't know where to look for the problem. Or top management does not want to hear about the real�problem.
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No worries, Satellite ERP tracking system will be up next year when India launches 6 SG satellites into space in December ...
Hope not make in Japan satellites ...
Time to buy 1000kw lasers from taobao!!!
http://www.laserpoin...te-blinding.php
Not only mrt breakdown often lately, but waiting time also become longer, don't know what has happened?
Not only mrt breakdown often lately, but waiting time also become longer, don't know what has happened?
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Fare decrease so waiting time increase?
Fare decrease so waiting time increase?
Fare haven't officially decrease le?!
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Fare haven't officially decrease le?!
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gd reason to gostan lo....hahahaha
SINGAPORE - Transport group SMRT Corp posted a 1.9 per cent rise in earnings to $25.7 million for the second quarter ended Sept 30, as revenue grew 4.7 per cent
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"Total expenses rose by 7.1 per cent to $313.6 million, with cost increases like manpower and depreciation outstripping lower energy and fuel costs."
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"Total expenses rose by 7.1 per cent to $313.6 million, with cost increases like manpower and depreciation outstripping lower energy and fuel costs."
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Hmmmm........... still can affort few breakdowns fines by LTA�... 
Edited by Picnic06, 28 October 2015 - 10:54 AM.
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wah, Khaw really got a major task on his hands ...
So many faults on the mrt recently, like it has become a norm liao?!
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what did the poor track guy do that it's his fault ... he is merely lying there do nothing ... LOL !!!
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Somebody is going to get hurt real bad...
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Tampenis! Power sia!
Somebody is going to get hurt real bad...
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surf too much edmw during working hours
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Now the reason that causes the train to breakdown is always track fault and power fault. So it means all the while they did not even rectify these problems at all after it have happened, that's why it keep recurrence.
Tam Penis
Eh...North South line got issue again? Got friends whatsapp me say City Hall got big crowd cos cannot board due to train stuck at Newton.
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Update: Jialat. Seems East-West line also got some issue.
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Eh...North South line got issue again? Got friends whatsapp me say City Hall got big crowd cos cannot board due to train stuck at Newton.
Zhun bo?
Update: Jialat. Seems East-West line also got some issue.
MRT so happening these few days...
Where is Hui Ge??..
Act blur live longer...
Ai sehhh...
MRT so happening these few days...
Where is Hui Ge??..
Act blur live longer...
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more happening then u can imagine hahahaa I think zouk also loose to them
Edited by Angcheek, 28 October 2015 - 10:49 PM.
more happening then u can imagine hahahaa I think zouk also loose to them
Few week ago, I thought I saw�Hui Ge ???????!
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His fire kena put out so fast???
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Honestly, if by�slapping the operators with a hefty fine can solve problems,
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any Tom, Dick Harry can be a Minster!
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Yesterday train fault at braddell caused train delay! No wonder when i took the NS line around 9pm yesterday, the train moved slowly! 
jit bai tua kee liao
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As health minister.
He did sars crisis well. . But he had medical background after all.
Don't forget he also didn't solve the terrible bed shortage or health care cost.
As hdb.
The housing shortage was caused by national policy .. not really the minister though many blame MBT. Only after cabinet change policy can the minister kaw start building.
Once decision to build was made. . Outsource to say. . Far east Dev also no issue... the minister just follow policy.
Point here is.
Ministers are tasked to execute a policy, policy is set by cabinet.
The minister himself is no god/devil if policy direction is wrong.
But if you're paid millions. .. you must be prepared to shield your bosses.
People must stop treating khaw as a miracle worker.
As health minister.
He did sars crisis well. . But he had medical background after all.
Don't forget he also didn't solve the terrible bed shortage or health care cost.
As hdb.
The housing shortage was caused by national policy .. not really the minister though many blame MBT. Only after cabinet change policy can the minister kaw start building.
Once decision to build was made. . Outsource to say. . Far east Dev also no issue... the minister just follow policy.
Point here is.
Ministers are tasked to execute a policy, policy is set by cabinet.
The minister himself is no god/devil if policy direction is wrong.
But if you're paid millions. .. you must be prepared to shield your bosses.
We need not pay so much if the minister's job is simply to follow and execute policies set by his boss. Any skilled administrator will do and they can be had for much less than a million a year base salary. Use your brains and think before you say something else you will look stupid
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Apparently, the train at Bugis broke down
who is Tam? why his karchang breakdown ...
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NB...thot I take the downtown line to visit my client. Now train has stopped at Promenade for about 15mins and counting....
Apparently, the train at Bugis broke down
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Again? seriously ?
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No, it moved off shortly after. Almost late for my appointment
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