mycarforum: ALL consolidated SMRT/NEL/KTM simisai BREAKDOWNS here! part 37

So, ppl who are former part of the system cannot criticize the system?

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I didn't say cannot criticize. But to criticize without acknowledging that oneself was once part of the problem and acknowledging that mistake makes him a hypocrite.

LOL!...Yahoo has a way of getting its political opinion across by using some one's comment. �

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But people seems to forget the real reason behind why the Author is so supportive of "investigative journalism".

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http://news.asiaone....ndependent-team

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Is he supportive because he is part of an "investigative journalism" outfit? Or is he part of the outfit because he is supportive of "investigative journalism".

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I put "" because my stand is that all journalism should be investigative. Otherwise you are not adding value.

Must also remember.....
It is not always total weight. Maybe the system was designed to have a 10% weight tolerance....
With heavier train AND more passenger maybe this has been reduced to 5%..
That's a pretty significant change.

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Bro, who cares about total weight of a overloaded train when the in certain part of the world it is a common practice to exceed its designer's specification ?

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5% over weight still got ppl KPKB...some just don't get it - it is often the engineered tolerance that tend to save lives while the politics of malpractice often do the reverse.

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I didn't say cannot criticize. But to criticize without acknowledging that oneself was once part of the problem and acknowledging that mistake makes him a hypocrite.

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If he did not acknowledge his "mistake", he will not be former editor.

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Sometime, "mistake" has to be made to earn a living.� Courage will not even earned peanut.

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How many of us has the courage to walk away if we are in his shoe?

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Is he supportive because he is part of an "investigative journalism" outfit? Or is he part of the outfit because he is supportive of "investigative journalism".

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I put "" because my stand is that all journalism should be investigative. Otherwise you are not adding value.

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Let's just say he may had outlived his usefulness in MSM and need a job in the private sector of journalism.

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Whether or not their works add value to a society..that is another story and for history to judge.

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Like I said before -� if some regard HK's press freedom serves as benchmark to follow - Well good luck then, just be careful of what you wish for..

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Sound pretty much like any country in the world...

How many here commenting are engineer that are still working in engineering firm?? Will be interesting to know.

Haha.....
That's one straight out of the pap play book. ..
Whose strategy have you been learning from?

I agree 100% that they are absolutely cosmetic in nature.

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I am referring to the autolities' explanations and responses of course.

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SINGAPORE: Declaring that trains were being returned to China for repairs due to hairline cracks could have caused undue panic, Transport Minister Khaw Boon Wan said at the Bishan Depot on Tuesday (Jul 12).

Mr Khaw said that going public for something that was not "a major event" might have caused unnecessary panic to the layman, noting that to engineers, not all cracks are the same.

"If all cracks have to be reported, if they do not cause any of those issues on safety, they will have to think about what is the impact on the ground," said Mr Khaw. "Looking back, I think it's understandable."

He added that if there was a safety issue, the Land Transport Authority (LTA) would have gone public.

"If there is a safety issue and there's no response, what will that be like?" Mr Khaw asked. "LTA will decide to go public immediately."

The Transport Minister added that even if there were no safety concerns, should rectification works require many trains to be taken away, his ministry and LTA will still explain why they will have to reduce capacity of the rail system.

The briefing comes after Hong Kong-based news agency FactWire reported that the defective trains were being sent back to Qingdao, China, claiming that the recalls were being done "in secret". SMRT has said the trains on its rail lines are "extensively tested" to ensure safety and reliability.

HAIRLINE CRACKS NOT LINKED TO ANY TRAIN DELAYS: LTA

There was no correlation to train delays of more than five minutes to the hairline cracks, LTA said at the briefing. It indicated that most of the delays since 2014 were linked to signalling faults, door or brake issues, with none linked to hairline cracks.

The authority added that even when trains were being repaired, there were always enough trains to meet demand.

For example, for 2016, there are 140 trains available for the North-South and East-West lines, and 124 trains are needed to meet demand. This will continue till 2019 - when replacement work is completed - where there will always be more trains available than needed, according to estimates.

SAME CONSORTIUM WON NEW CONTRACT AS CRACK PROBLEM WAS RESOLVED

The Kawasaki / Sifang consortium also won Contract T251 - for the supply of 91 four-car electric multiple units trains for the Thomson East Coast Lines - because the problem of hairline cracks for trains purchased under contract C151A were resolved conclusively.

"From the experience of C151A, bolsters of trains will be supplied by Japanese supplier Kobe Steel," said LTA.

"Kawasaki / Sifang has shown a high level of responsiveness and strong sense of responsibility in addressing the issue," it added.

LTA said that the consortium won out of six bidders at it provided the best overall offer based on price, quality and life-cycle costs. Other bidders included Hyundai Rotem, which wanted to build the trains in Korea, and Construcciones Y Auxiliar De Ferrocarriles, which would have built the trains in Spain. Four other tenderers proposed to assemble the trains in China.

mai panic mai panic

I should have told my parents that the reasons I did not tell them I fail my exam is because I don't want them (layman) to get undue panic as it is not a major event.

Shit, now I suddenly realised why I cannot be a minister...

Well ... I suppose last year was not a good time to come clean with such news ... :-D

Edited by Blueray, 13 July 2016 - 07:41 AM.

Read the article ...
One thing that strikes me as doubtful is the idea that an entire train will be returned because of a crack in one carriage?

That seems a little less than logical.

Also the repeated statements that the cracks didn't affected safety. If they didn't affect safety....doesn't that mean they were cosmetic?

Seems a rather large of amount of effort for cosmetic damage to me. (Unless of course they're playing with words in using "safety critical" to mean something quite specific)

"safety critical" = "whole train disintegrates and break apart"? [sly]

my hdb also got hairline crack ... but simply patch up and repaint leh ... how come the whole unit is not redo or overhaul?

Edited by Wt_know, 13 July 2016 - 07:40 AM.

Guess so.

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If trains can still move, it's not unsafe.

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If trains derailed or broke into pieces, then it's not safe.

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So, in conclusion, all trains are safe until "proven" unsafe by jumping rails or disintegration.

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"safety critical" = "whole train disintegrates and break apart"?

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Haha.....
That's one straight out of the pap play book. ..
Whose strategy have you been learning from?

are you witch hunting here?

Haha.....
That's one straight out of the pap play book. ..
Whose strategy have you been learning from?

Learning? I am saying out of experience. A lot of layman talk here without understanding how the world engineering industries work right now really make me want to laugh.

Edited by Joseph22, 13 July 2016 - 08:26 AM.

As a reasonable and sane consumer, would we buy a Toyota with�its�renown solid�reliability, or buy a VW with a lot of known issues (gearbox, electronics, etc) but they always repair the�defects timely for you?

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Sorry Khawly, but your explanation does not fly with me. [confused]

As a reasonable and sane consumer, would we buy a Toyota with�its�renown solid�reliability, or buy a VW with a lot of known issues (gearbox, electronics, etc) but they always repair the�defects timely for you?

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Sorry Khawly, but your explanation does not fly with me.

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As a reasonable and sane consumer, would we buy a Toyota with its renown solid reliability, or buy a VW with a lot of known issues (gearbox, electronics, etc) but they always repair the defects timely for you?

Sorry Khawly, but your explanation does not fly with me.

Technically, This is more a keen to buying a thaiyota Altis only different is made in China.

It's a joint venture bid by jap firm, likely because they think they will loss to other parties if they don't joint bid with China.

Story spinning time....

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IMO the crack on the train's body is just a smoke screen. What caused the power outtages and major delays could be due to the defective trains. I mean just ask ourselves what have we been reading all this while that is plaguing the mrt? It's also affecting new rail lines. Are the cracks on the train's body the real cause?

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For me I feel that the authorities eg. LTA/MOT/TM(transport minister) has little or no creditbility from now on. It took a foreign "investigative news media" to expose the train recall. If this were to happen in other countries other dan Singapore ppl would suspect corruption and call the whole saga a scandal. But somehow ppl's attention are directed to cracks. If it's a chiobu's ass crack I will give more attention.

Edited by Watwheels, 13 July 2016 - 08:43 AM.

Mr Khaw said that going public for something that was not "a major event" might have caused unnecessary panic to the layman, noting that to engineers, not all cracks are the same.

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Obviously, you guys are afraid that the hairline cracks will get larger and worse that�s why send back to PRC right?� If one train, maybe not so bad.� But so many trains?� Can MOT/LTA/SMRT tell us whether the trains currently in operation, also has hairline cracks.�

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KBW, don't try to down play this like its a $8 bypass thinggie.� We are not silly. This horseshit doesn't make sense.� You all are just like Najib the King of Denial.

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Edited by Ahbengdriver, 13 July 2016 - 10:17 AM.

Learning? I am saying out of experience. A lot of layman talk here without understanding how the world engineering industries work right now really make me want to laugh.

Based on this logic.

When a passenger see driver drive dangerously.

When patient see doctor don't sterilise properly.

When costumer see chef hand got shit..

Better keep quiet. . You not qualified driver doctor chef.

Better still. . If TP ask you for money. . You also not qualified to refuse.

govt spend so much on education
we study so hard
and we are just "layman" - cant think and understand simi crack

The are 3 main issues here. . That kaw is trying to fudge. . Or perhaps really don't understand.

1) safety.
No argument that cracks of any kind on load bearing items are by default safety impacting. While one can reasonably find explanations that one off occurrences are fluke.. but this is NOT one off.
Using his HDB.. cracks on brick walks are ok.. cracks in load bearing beams and columns will get you in very very deep shots.

2) reliability.
Safety and engineering reliability are two different things.
A propeller is bloody dangerous for humans, but will fly you reliably across the oceans. To argue the trains are safe, had nothing to do with reliability, smoke out.

3) administrative transparency.
We talking hundreds of millions of dollars. Safety or no safety, you can't hide it. If the LTA spend a billion dollars buying hundreds of bugatti verons and rolls Royce for its civil servants.
How safe the vehicles are. . Also don't mean no need to disclose!! It's accountability for public finances.

The are 3 main issues here. . That kaw is trying to fudge. . Or perhaps really don't understand.

1) safety.
No argument that cracks of any kind on load bearing items are by default safety impacting. While one can reasonably find explanations that one off occurrences are fluke.. but this is NOT one off.
Using his HDB.. cracks on brick walks are ok.. cracks in load bearing beams and columns will get you in very very deep shots.

2) reliability.
Safety and engineering reliability are two different things.
A propeller is bloody dangerous for humans, but will fly you reliably across the oceans. To argue the trains are safe, had nothing to do with reliability, smoke out.

3) administrative transparency.
We talking hundreds of millions of dollars. Safety or no safety, you can't hide it. If the LTA spend a billion dollars buying hundreds of bugatti verons and rolls Royce for its civil servants.
How safe the vehicles are. . Also don't mean no need to disclose!! It's accountability for public finances.

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Seriously bro, I have been reading your posts and praising you. Not trolling here, but please consider running for public office, don't waste your talent. I will vote for you. [thumbsup]

Edited by Weez911, 13 July 2016 - 10:06 AM.

Learning? I am saying out of experience. A lot of layman talk here without understanding how the world engineering industries work right now really make me want to laugh.

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Since a lot of us here are not engineer, maybe you can explain in layman term why it has to be send back to Manufacturer

that story telling minister only know to talk bullcrap lah... what undue panic... just a few years back, we were still using cable ties to keep the tracks together... did we panic? ppl still takes the train and KPKB nonetheless and LTA and SMRT also never say much about it.

All the sudden, these 2 entities so concern about our mental health after numerous breakdowns that caused much frustration and panic as well.�

If this was handed by a NON-PnP minister, I bet my last 1-cent, he will talk about about the good old days when someone made a mistake, they will come clean and even committed hara kiri.�

Now, this begs the question when does his long overdue hara kiri is going to happen?

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Lastly, for those whom make so noise about this cover-up and how the govt treat us like a bloody fool with crappy calcification.. I say most of us damm deserved it what.. you reaped what you had sowed last Sep.

So stop complaining and in 5 years times, this incident will be forgotten and here we go again, the same bunch of folks who complain and complain will give the mandate to story telling minister� again

Edited by Jayy25, 13 July 2016 - 10:18 AM.

Since a lot of us here are not engineer, maybe you can explain in layman term why it has to be send back to Manufacturer

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we are talking about safety critical, do you think our kiasu, kiasee civil servant department wont have or�want any proof from the Jap firm that the hairline crack isnt going to cause safety concern? Likelyhood knowing how they work, they will had ask for tonns of document and all document are likely to come with PE certify document stating that the item is not Safety critical. Whether we agree with the PE or not is another issue, however, they are PE, we are not. we can only Shut up and accept like when we go to court the judge say the punishment is XXX then the punishment is XXX. similarly, if PE say its not safety critical then LTA can only LLST and accept.

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Not Safety cirtical doesnt mean that the items is deem as good, just that it does not compromise safety. This mean they will still need the item to be repair/replace.

that story telling minister only know to talk bullcrap lah... what undue panic... just a few years back, we were still using cable ties to keep the tracks together... did we panic? ppl still takes the train and KPKB nonetheless and LTA and SMRT also never say much about it.

All the sudden, these 2 entities so concern about our mental health after numerous breakdowns that caused much frustration and panic as well.�

If this was handed by a NON-PnP minister, I bet my last 1-cent, he will talk about about the good old days when someone made a mistake, they will come clean and even committed hara kiri.�

Now, this begs the question when does his long overdue hara kiri is going to happen?

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Lastly, for those whom make so noise about this cover-up and how the govt treat us like a bloody fool with crappy calcification.. I say most of us damm deserved it what.. you reaped what you had sowed last Sep.

So stop complaining and in 5 years times, this incident will be forgotten and here we go again, the same bunch of folks who complain and complain will give the mandate to story telling minister� again

this wasnt inform to the public either... when it does, it cause a big stir

Last time I never study hard so struggling to understand ministerically powderful england.

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Lucky got hokkien translation. �Thank you Facebook.

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Or Husband kena VD don't tell wife....

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Not to cause undue panic since it does not affect normal operations.

Undue panic meanings is undue ridicule?

we are talking about safety critical, do you think our kiasu, kiasee civil servant department wont have or�want any proof from the Jap firm that the hairline crack isnt going to cause safety concern? Likelyhood knowing how they work, they will had ask for tonns of document and all document are likely to come with PE certify document stating that the item is not Safety critical. Whether we agree with the PE or not is another issue, however, they are PE, we are not. we can only Shut up and accept like when we go to court the judge say the punishment is XXX then the punishment is XXX. similarly, if PE say its not safety critical then LTA can only LLST and accept.

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Not Safety cirtical doesnt mean that the items is deem as good, just that it does not compromise safety. This mean they will still need the item to be repair/replace.

this wasnt inform to the public either... when it does, it cause a big stir

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What you had said is call Better Cover Carchng.

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By having all these reports, does it really means that it is not compromising safety?� Not necessary.

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If there is hairline crack on my car chia, do you think it will compromise my safety or not?

What you had said is call Better Cover Carchng.

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By having all these reports, does it really means that it is not compromising safety?� Not necessary.

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If there is hairline crack on my car chia, do you think it will compromise my safety or not?

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did you pay a�PE to certify your car with hairline crack will not compromise your safety?

Edited by Joseph22, 13 July 2016 - 10:55 AM.

Borneo just sent me a letter asking me to an book appointment for a drive shaft hairline crack repair recall for my Toyota.

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In the letter it says that the crack is not safety critical, so do not worry, just make sure I get it fixed asap.

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It also mentioned that it is a secret recall program and only affected car owners will be notified.

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In the foot note, I was also told not to tell anyone else (especially the media) in case there is an undue panic.�

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And yes.... I so believe the letter....

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Borneo just sent me a letter asking me to an book appointment for a drive shaft hairline crack repair recall for my Toyota.

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In the letter it says that the crack is not safety critical, so do not worry, just make sure I get it fixed asap.

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It also mentioned that it is a secret recall program and only affected car owners will be notified.

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In the foot note, I was also told not to tell anyone else (especially the media) in case there is an undue panic.�

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well and truly shafted.

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i have experienced "undue panic" due to a crack in MRT ... can i claim from SMRT/LTA? [laugh]

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Edited by Wt_know, 13 July 2016 - 02:42 PM.

As too, by our brilliant million dollar $8/bypass minister.....

I am very sorry to hear

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you have been

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well and truly shafted.

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i have experienced "undue panic" due to a crack in MRT ... can i claim from SMRT/LTA?

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KNN!!

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This is not hairline crack.
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we are talking about safety critical, do you think our kiasu, kiasee civil servant department wont have or�want any proof from the Jap firm that the hairline crack isnt going to cause safety concern? Likelyhood knowing how they work, they will had ask for tonns of document and all document are likely to come with PE certify document stating that the item is not Safety critical. Whether we agree with the PE or not is another issue, however, they are PE, we are not. we can only Shut up and accept like when we go to court the judge say the punishment is XXX then the punishment is XXX. similarly, if PE say its not safety critical then LTA can only LLST and accept.

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Not Safety cirtical doesnt mean that the items is deem as good, just that it does not compromise safety. This mean they will still need the item to be repair/replace.

this wasnt inform to the public either... when it does, it cause a big stir

So in other words - they are playing smoke screen with safety CRITICAL.

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This is going to depend on your definition of critical right?

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One thing that we can know for sure through "common sense"...

this does have an impact on reliability / longevity (you can argue on whether a breakdown is a safety issue if you like, up to you) but you do NOT go to this sort of trouble and expense for "minor cosmetic cracks".��
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Can you imagine how much is being spent on this exercise?� Do you really thing Sifang is doing it for "good customer service"?� If they are doing it out of "goodwill" - then I have to wonder how much the price of the original contract was padded by that they can afford to offer such service for such "minor" problems

i have experienced "undue panic" due to a crack in MRT ... can i claim from SMRT/LTA?

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Why you posting picture of my backside?

So in other words - they are playing smoke screen with safety CRITICAL.

This is going to depend on your definition of critical right?

One thing that we can know for sure through "common sense"...
this does have an impact on reliability / longevity (you can argue on whether a breakdown is a safety issue if you like, up to you) but you do NOT go to this sort of trouble and expense for "minor cosmetic cracks".

Can you imagine how much is being spent on this exercise? Do you really thing Sifang is doing it for "good customer service"? If they are doing it out of "goodwill" - then I have to wonder how much the price of the original contract was padded by that they can afford to offer such service for such "minor" problems

Why you posting picture of my backside?

First u answer me a few question.
Are you a engineer?

If not... Then I am don't want waste time cause it's like what Chinese say... Play music to a cow.

How many here commenting are engineer that are still working in engineering firm?? Will be interesting to know.

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Tolong leh.

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Really need to be engineer before can comment meh?

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I worked in procurement in an engineering/construction firm before. I can tell you that no sane company will waste time, money and effort to RMA something if there is no safety, performance or aesthetic factors.

Learning? I am saying out of experience. A lot of layman talk here without understanding how the world engineering industries work right now really make me want to laugh.

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Care to share your thoughts based on your engineering experience then?

to me, a layman, not�safety-critical means not likely to immediately cause serious injury or death.

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train service�breakdown is thus not safety critical

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but yeah,� essentially a Red Herring to smoke us. .

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BTW anyone notice�a funny� thing? MINDEF regularly issues "silent recalls". Now we know LTA/SMRT� also have .

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someone needs to do up a Meme of LTA/SMRT doing silent recall of civil resources.

Based on this logic.

When a passenger see driver drive dangerously.

When patient see doctor don't sterilise properly.

When costumer see chef hand got shit..

Better keep quiet. . You not qualified driver doctor chef.

Better still. . If TP ask you for money. . You also not qualified to refuse.

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Eat chicken rice also cannot complain not nice cuz you are not chef.

Based on this logic.

When a passenger see driver drive dangerously.

When patient see doctor don't sterilise properly.

When costumer see chef hand got shit..

Better keep quiet. . You not qualified driver doctor chef.

Better still. . If TP ask you for money. . You also not qualified to refuse.

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Nice! LOL

we are talking about safety critical, do you think our kiasu, kiasee civil servant department wont have or�want any proof from the Jap firm that the hairline crack isnt going to cause safety concern? Likelyhood knowing how they work, they will had ask for tonns of document and all document are likely to come with PE certify document stating that the item is not Safety critical. Whether we agree with the PE or not is another issue, however, they are PE, we are not. we can only Shut up and accept like when we go to court the judge say the punishment is XXX then the punishment is XXX. similarly, if PE say its not safety critical then LTA can only LLST and accept.

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Not Safety cirtical doesnt mean that the items is deem as good, just that it does not compromise safety. This mean they will still need the item to be repair/replace.

this wasnt inform to the public either... when it does, it cause a big stir

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Don't try to obfuscate leh.

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They said that it doesn't affect safety AND performance. They also compared it to those cracks on HDB walls.

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BTW, the cable tie solution was disclosed in the papers.

Don't try to obfuscate leh.

They said that it doesn't affect safety AND performance. They also compared it to those cracks on HDB walls.

BTW, the cable tie solution was disclosed in the papers.

Nothing confusing or complicated.

This sort of things happen a few times even with company from US of A. A few projects I done with them. Items come in with similar fault. You tell them they say it's not safety critical and doesn't affect performance and they will replace for us. But take times.

Based on this logic.

When a passenger see driver drive dangerously.

When patient see doctor don't sterilise properly.

When costumer see chef hand got shit..

Better keep quiet. . You not qualified driver doctor chef.

Better still. . If TP ask you for money. . You also not qualified to refuse.

There is a different between voicing out obvious and acting like expert.

Edited by Joseph22, 13 July 2016 - 04:26 PM.

Nothing confusing or complicated.

This sort of things happen a few times even with company from US of A. A few projects I done with them. Items come in with similar fault. You tell them they say it's not safety critical and doesn't affect performance and they will replace for us. But take times.

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So if you really believe that there is no safety or performance impact, why are you wasting time getting it replaced?

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If you don't believe then you will change right?

So if you really believe that there is no safety or performance impact, why are you wasting time getting it replaced?

If you don't believe then you will change right?

I mention earlier the jap/China company likely proof with PE endorse document that items doesn't affect. Who know they might not be totall convince, Then what U expect them to do? Ignore the PE endorse document and tell the whole world that professional certificate don't mean a thing to government because they biggest? Their likely next course of action is okay replace at later date regardless of the result.

Then again if U work with them before u will know their stun is.. Okay I am convince this does not affect but I don't care u must replace for me at a later stage.

Your project management is so tok kong.

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Nothing confusing or complicated.

This sort of things happen a few times even with company from US of A. A few projects I done with them. Items come in with similar fault. You tell them they say it's not safety critical and doesn't affect performance and they will replace for us. But take times.
There is a different between voicing out obvious and acting like expert.

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Your project management is so tok kong.

I am not the project manager. Don't ask me I leave that stupid company Liao.

Btw not only American company. Even German renown brand in the specific field gave the same problem.

Edited by Joseph22, 13 July 2016 - 04:45 PM.

You bought the hairline cracks then leave the company stupid ?

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I am not the project manager. Don't ask me I leave that stupid company Liao.

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You bought the hairline cracks then leave the company stupid ?

I told the project manager that I disapprove of buying from them. They go and tell director they must buy from them cause can save xxx number of money... So technically I only process at order of director

You do know that people are unhappy not because of the defective product, country of origin or RMA process right?

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I am not the project manager. Don't ask me I leave that stupid company Liao.

Btw not only American company. Even German renown brand in the specific field gave the same problem.

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You do know that people are unhappy not because of the defective product, country of origin or RMA process right?

I know. I am okay if it's just direct bashing.. But here act like engineering expert... (Not referring to all... U just need to read clearly to know who I am referring to... Or u want pm me I reply u who...

Now the SGX is not functioning for 2 hours, it is due to hair lines crack in the system? Even yes, Gov will not telling us as they worry that Singapore will get panic again.

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Singapore becomes like a "Disney World", there are full of so much fun -- "panic games" for us to play around.�

Factwire has responded to our Transport Minister...

http://mothership.sg...lse-statements/

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Wonder how will Khaw fire back...

I say, broadside salvo

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An Open Letter to Singapore�s Transport Minister Khaw Boon Wan

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FactWire News Agency - English�Wednesday, 13 July 2016

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Singapore�s Transport Minister Khaw Boon Wan appeared at the SMRT�s Bishan Depot on Wednesday, July 13, 2016 to explain why �hairline� train cracks were not made public. He is the highest ranking Singapore official to speak about the issue eight days after FactWire�s investigative report revealed the cover up of the train recalls. However, instead of taking responsibility for an incident which has damaged the Singaporean public�s trust in the authorities, the minister blamed the Hong Kong news agency for exposing the cover up of the recalls of defective trains, claiming that Singapore has been used as a �convenient bullet� in a �crossfire� between factions in Hong Kong:

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�We are caught in a crossfire and there are factions in Hong Kong who wanted to cause some difficulties for mainland China. I have no inside information on whether that is true or not, but it�s possible. Unfortunately, we become a convenient bullet and collateral damage.�

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FactWire deeply regrets the false statements that Singapore�s Transport Minister made against this news agency. Founded by 3,300 Hong Kong people in a journalism crowdfunding campaign that broke records in Asia, FactWire is entirely funded by the public. Thus, it is the public that this new agency serves, independent of any commercial or political interests.

Every investigative report published by FactWire must be founded on impregnable evidence and cover serious public interests at stake. We will never allow commercial or political considerations to override our professional journalistic judgement.

As a news agency committed to serving the public, when public officials are riled by our reporting, it is merely proof that we are doing the right thing.

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FactWire News Agency

July 14, 2016. Hong Kong.

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honest mistake ... move on

what do you expect? ha la - li li ?

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Wonder how will Khaw fire back...

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Factwire has responded to our Transport Minister...
http://mothership.sg...lse-statements/

Wonder how will Khaw fire back...

Don't need to fire back.

Just ignore.. Treat it like statestimesreview and ignore.

wa piang eh.

this photo make me laugh out damn loud :XD:

wa piang eh.
this photo make me laugh out damn loud

That's why $8 can settle Liao

wa piang eh.

this photo make me laugh out damn loud

Such hair line crack should send him back and asked for replacement!!!

I am very sorry to hear

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you have been

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well and truly shafted.

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B'cos, his shaft got 'cracks' ... [sly]

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No safety issue but simply unable to perform up to his sextisfactory ... :confident:

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See.............. hairline crack no safety issue what... :we-all-gonna-die:

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$8/- niah and everything will be back to normal ... :yuush:

LOL... $8 hairline crack....

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LOL... $8 hairline crack....

Aiyah when we grow old, all sorts of problems also cum out
And there is no Coe for us to renew
One Coe and that's it
How we use the Coe is the thing

Why Khawly never sue Factwire ah? I heard someone important said that if never sue means true wor. [confused]

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So now should I trust Factwire or the important person�at this very critical juncture? [confused]

Edited by Weez911, 15 July 2016 - 12:10 PM.

LOL... $8 hairline crack....

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hahahaha...knnn

Khaw very good... things he do very consistent one...

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Khaw (to cardiothoracic surgeon): eh, Doc, you never tell me before the bypass that I will have a hairline crack on my chest leh....

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Cardiothoracic Surgeon: erm... there is a reason why they call it open heart surgery dey...

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Khaw: �Buay Swee lah, like that my chest not hansum liao....also will it affect my safety when I hey sioh?

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Cardiothoracic Surgeon: Ai zhai..... this is not safety critical, you can hey sioh as much as your $8-refurbished heart can take it....

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Khaw: Zhun boh? I don't care, I want to RMA !

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Cardiothoracic surgeon:......tsk..... ok lah..... I refer you to the top plastic surgeon in this hospital, he will help you with a revision surgery to the hairline crack...

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Khaw: can he come to my house to do the revision surgery?

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Cardiothoracic surgeon: you wait arh... I call my friend to ask....(after 10 mins on the phone)...buay sai leh, he said your house don't have the equipment and expertise to assist him during the surgery. boh bian, you have to send yourself back to the hospital for the revision surgery

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Khaw: knn.....I guess boh bian..... BUT can you promise me one thing? Please keep this a secret. Everyone involved should be on need to know basis only. Especially don't tell the media! Those big mouth media will sure cause a public panic and mess up my surgery plan...

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Cardiothoracic Surgeon: yes boss!

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hahahaha...knnn

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Edited by Vratenza, 15 July 2016 - 12:34 PM.

Khaw very good... things he do very consistent one...

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Khaw (to cardiothoracic surgeon): eh, Doc, you never tell me before the bypass that I will have a hairline crack on my chest leh....

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Cardiothoracic Surgeon: erm... there is a reason why they call it open heart surgery dey...

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Khaw: �Buay Swee lah, like that my chest not hansum liao....also will it affect my safety when I hey sioh?

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Cardiothoracic Surgeon: Ai zhai..... this is not safety critical, you can hey sioh as much as your $8-refurbished heart can take it....

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Khaw: Zhun boh? I don't care, I want to RMA !

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Cardiothoracic surgeon:......tsk..... ok lah..... I refer you to the top plastic surgeon in this hospital, he will help you with a revision surgery to the hairline crack...

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Khaw: can he come to my house to do the revision surgery?

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Cardiothoracic surgeon: you wait arh... I call my friend to ask....(after 10 mins on the phone)...buay sai leh, he said your house don't have the equipment and expertise to assist him during the surgery. boh bian, you have to send yourself back to the hospital for the revision surgery

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Khaw: knn.....I guess boh bian..... BUT can you promise me one thing? Please keep this a secret. Everyone involved should be on need to know basis only. Especially don't tell the media! Those big mouth media will sure cause a public panic and mess up my surgery plan...

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Cardiothoracic Surgeon: yes boss!

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hahah! genius! [thumbsup]

Factwire has responded to our Transport Minister...

http://mothership.sg...lse-statements/

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Wonder how will Khaw fire back...

Act blur live longer . . .

Khaw very good... things he do very consistent one...

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Khaw (to cardiothoracic surgeon): eh, Doc, you never tell me before the bypass that I will have a hairline crack on my chest leh....

�

Cardiothoracic Surgeon: erm... there is a reason why they call it open heart surgery dey...

�

Khaw: �Buay Swee lah, like that my chest not hansum liao....also will it affect my safety when I hey sioh?

�

Cardiothoracic Surgeon: Ai zhai..... this is not safety critical, you can hey sioh as much as your $8-refurbished heart can take it....

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Khaw: Zhun boh? I don't care, I want to RMA !

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Cardiothoracic surgeon:......tsk..... ok lah..... I refer you to the top plastic surgeon in this hospital, he will help you with a revision surgery to the hairline crack...

�

Khaw: can he come to my house to do the revision surgery?

�

Cardiothoracic surgeon: you wait arh... I call my friend to ask....(after 10 mins on the phone)...buay sai leh, he said your house don't have the equipment and expertise to assist him during the surgery. boh bian, you have to send yourself back to the hospital for the revision surgery

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Khaw: knn.....I guess boh bian..... BUT can you promise me one thing? Please keep this a secret. Everyone involved should be on need to know basis only. Especially don't tell the media! Those big mouth media will sure cause a public panic and mess up my surgery plan...

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Cardiothoracic Surgeon: yes boss!

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u part time or full time script writer [thumbsup]

simi dai ji? got more hairline cracks to announce?

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SMRT calls for trading halt

http://www.straitsti...or-trading-halt

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SINGAPORE - SMRT Group called for a trading halt at 11:59 am on Friday (July 15) pending the release of an announcement.

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Its stock was up 0.5 cents at S$1.545 before trading was halted.

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The group is scheduled to release its first quarter results for full year 2017 on July 28.

Edited by Jellandross, 15 July 2016 - 02:06 PM.

simi dai ji? got more hairline cracks to announce?

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SMRT calls for trading halt

http://www.straitsti...or-trading-halt

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SINGAPORE - SMRT Group called for a trading halt at 11:59 am on Friday (July 15) pending the release of an announcement.

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Its stock was up 0.5 cents at S$1.545 before trading was halted.

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The group is scheduled to release its first quarter results for full year 2017 on July 28.

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After so many so many breakdown / delay in the recent years, the whole management team should step down and the company to be delisted, to prevent them from being too profit orientated.
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maybe ...just maybe.... our dear govt has a rethink of their policy to privatise public transport...

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simi dai ji? got more hairline cracks to announce?

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SMRT calls for trading halt

http://www.straitsti...or-trading-halt

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SINGAPORE - SMRT Group called for a trading halt at 11:59 am on Friday (July 15) pending the release of an announcement.

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Its stock was up 0.5 cents at S$1.545 before trading was halted.

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The group is scheduled to release its first quarter results for full year 2017 on July 28.

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maybe ...just maybe.... our dear govt has a rethink of their policy to privatise public transport...

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that's one of my first thoughts. �i hope they finally see the light of wisdom.

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the other one is sacking that clueless general and appoint someone who knows the actual meaning of MTBF.

Edited by Jellandross, 15 July 2016 - 02:23 PM.

After so many so many breakdown / delay in the recent years, the whole management team should step down and the company to be delisted, to prevent them from being too profit orientated.
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huh.. if delist then how will they be able to reward their long-serving generals with cushy retirement jobs?

Chenghu buy and finance
Oct 1

No change of command parade ?

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