mycarforum: ALL consolidated SMRT/NEL/KTM simisai BREAKDOWNS here! part 43

Why not? �When you buy an AD car, �the AD had to send their technician and mechanics for training by the carmaker. That's why everything also can be repaired in the AD workshop of course at a price.�

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In this case, �the reaponsibility lies with the train operators to make sure their local engineers and mechanics are well trained to handle issues with the trains.�

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Public money leh.....simply say dunnoe how to repair can just upgrade the train from PRC model to Conti/Japanese?�

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Train issue they definitely don't know. They don't build train. But refurbishment wise really show the competence.

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Why not? When you buy an AD car, the AD had to send their technician and mechanics for training by the carmaker. That's why everything also can be repaired in the AD workshop of course at a price. They are only competence to do small repair and simple overhaul

In this case, the reaponsibility lies with the train operators to make sure their local engineers and mechanics are well trained to handle issues with the trains.

Public money leh.....simply say dunnoe how to repair can just upgrade the train from PRC model to Conti/Japanese?

You do realise AD also a lot of things people don't know. Take machinery for example. Local distributor know shit about the machine. And when complicated repair need to be done. They always quote me engineer from Oem. Why?? They don't know the machine well enough. They are competent to only do small parts change and maintenance.

Edited by Joseph22, 14 August 2016 - 03:31 PM.

You do realise AD also a lot of things people don't know. Take machinery for example. Local distributor know shit about the machine. And when complicated repair need to be done. They always quote me engineer from Oem. Why?? They don't know the machine well enough. They are competent to only do small parts change and maintenance.

We are not talking about thousand to tens of thousands machine. We are talking about multi million dollars worth of trains here. Some small time ADs not up to scratch means we can accept crappy business standards from every other businesses?

We are not talking about thousand to tens of thousands machine. We are talking about multi million dollars worth of trains here. Some small time ADs not up to scratch means we can accept crappy business standards from every other businesses?

If they know the train well. They will be building train themselves instead of buying from train maker.

If they know the train well. They will be building train themselves instead of buying from train maker.

Hokay.... That is when I should stop this discussion.

Right RadX?

Lol

Hokay.... That is when I should stop this discussion.

Right RadX?

Lol

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yup! �Gotten your yearly dose of adrenalin talking with the troll! haaaaaaaaaa

If they know the train well. They will be building train themselves instead of buying from train maker.

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You're really full of s h i t at times even when trolling� :ph34r:

You're really full of s h i t at times even when trolling

That's how to be king troll. U want to learn?

What's this about a plume of smoke from a train near Tg. Pagar station...

Today has more details;

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http://www.todayonli...gar-mrt-station

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He said officers at the MRT station made an announcement for commuters not to take any videos and photographs

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Edited by Carbon82, 15 August 2016 - 03:48 PM.

They are trying to burn the train to give as offering to the good brothers?

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wah mrt turned into nightclub arh? lol

There you see, they are testing the "Autumn" fog ...

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We have Spring Rain (typhoon in fact) and Winter Ice recently inside the train. Now Autumn Chill (fog) and be prepared�for Summer Sauna.... :we-all-gonna-die:

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All this will come when Circle Line complete. Feeling of four seasons inside a train ride... :a-happy:

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wah mrt turned into nightclub arh? lol

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Haha...can hear at the end of the video...."Don't take video, don't take...."

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But can call 995?

Possible explanation from the MoT / LTA / SMRT shall be:

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- This is an unannounced emergency exercise, to test the response of commuters and emergency response team

- The announcement for commuter not to take any photo or video was meant to ensure their safety is not compromised

- We are very satisfy with the results achieved through this emergency drill. With situation put under control within minutes (and media did not creating a headline out of it), there is no cause for undue panic to the general public!

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[grin] � [grin] [grin] ��

There you see, they are testing the "Autumn" fog ...

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We have Spring Rain (typhoon in fact) and Winter Ice recently inside the train. Now Autumn Chill (fog) and be prepared�for Summer Sauna....

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All this will come when Circle Line complete. Feeling of four seasons inside a train ride...

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I was about to comment on the same thing, but Summer = Fire?!

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MLMLWML

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wah mrt turned into nightclub arh? lol

I pity the old folk and young children, seems like they don't have the slightly idea what to do next. Shouldn't the station staff rush don't to the platform to assist the needy?! :pissed-off:

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Imagine if this is an real life emergency, they will be the first victims!! [shakehead]

Edited by Carbon82, 15 August 2016 - 04:31 PM.

Haha...can hear at the end of the video...."Don't take video, don't take...."

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But can call 995?

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That's the rule set after the embarrassment of great breakdown in 2011
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did someone push the Stop train emergency button? how come the train not moving off?

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wah mrt turned into nightclub arh? lol

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How come the MRT staff did not disperse the passenger to other place?

what happen if the smoke is harmful to human ?�

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wah mrt turned into nightclub arh? lol

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Didn't know that there is haze now in MRT ... don't need Indonesia side to blow to us ... we just create one ourselves

Got air purifier boh?!

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Come On, smrt ... got to stop all these liao... once and for all ... what water?! what smoke?! what breakdown ?!

Can't we just have a few months of peacefulness?

i hear some ppl say its air-con gas . by the mrt staff..

How come the MRT staff did not disperse the passenger to other place?
what happen if the smoke is harmful to human ?

Maybe they did... But maybe got rare Pokemon.

Looks like people are so into JIS, that all forget about the MRT...

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WTF, smoke coming out from the train, SMRT and LTA better come clear with what is going on.

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This is unacceptable. Really too much!!! [mad]

EXACTLY!!!

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This was what I told my wife last night while watching the news with her. She told me maybe they waiting for instructions......... I told her, u see danger, u run first!!! No need wait for instructions. If it was some poisonous gas then how? She say she typical Singaporean, waiting for instruction from authorities. �

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Cuz we are trained from young. Got emergency, first thing to do is wait for instructions first. Then move off orderly. Fire alarms don't work in Singapore. No one moves when they hear the fire alarm go off. I saw that happen in one office. The fire alarm went off and the shutters came down. Nobody moved. All continue doing their own stuff.

First was water and now is smoke, wonder what thing will drop down from the train next time?

Edited by 13177, 16 August 2016 - 09:55 PM.

First was water and now is smoke, wonder what thing will drop down from the train next time?

Hopefully not shit !

First was water and now is smoke, wonder what thing will drop down from the train next time?

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fire ?� :slow:

I think in general...all waiting for instructions, same as the S Korean ferry disaster... But that one worse, all kuai kaui listen to the nonsense instructions....

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EXACTLY!!!

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This was what I told my wife last night while watching the news with her. She told me maybe they waiting for instructions......... I told her, u see danger, u run first!!! No need wait for instructions. If it was some poisonous gas then how? She say she typical Singaporean, waiting for instruction from authorities. �

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I was watching the Korean drama Pinocchio recently, with storyline revolving around news manipulation by MSM, simply by shifting the focus to less serve / non-crucial part of an incident.

Can't help but noticed how KBW reply in parliament today are almost in the same manner. On the hairline crack issue, the emphasis is still that these cracks were not safety critical and the reason for not disclosing it earlier is not to invite more speculations or rumors. But I guess the general public are more concerned with the root causes and how they can be assured these cracks are not safety critical.

On the latest incident at Tanjong Pagar station yesterday, the focus is on breakdown of the 20 years old compressor, which he claimed was last maintained 10 days ago. The lack of proper emergency response at time of incident, leakage of refrigerant and it impact on passenger safety was skipped totally!

Brilliant!!

Edited by Carbon82, 16 August 2016 - 11:50 PM.

Maybe already have.....What is that proverb again?

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fire ?�

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Maybe already have.....What is that proverb again?

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Hopefully not ... else there would be major evacuation ... and the tracks would be closed for days ... major disruption ...

tor-long ... better don't have ...

Dont say liao......later all Channel U foreign drama with the plot involving the media tio banned,, :XD:

I was watching the Korean drama Pinocchio recently, with storyline revolving around news manipulation by MSM, simply by shifting the focus to less serve / non-crucial part of an incident.

Can't help but noticed how KBW reply in parliament today are almost in the same manner. On the hairline crack issue, the emphasis is still that these cracks were not safety critical and the reason for not disclosing it earlier is not to invite more speculations or rumors. But I guess the general public are more concerned with the root causes and how they can be assured these cracks are not safety critical.

On the latest incident at Tanjong Pagar station yesterday, the focus is on breakdown of the 20 years old compressor, which he claimed was last maintained 10 days ago. The lack of proper emergency response at time of incident, leakage of refrigerant and it impact on passenger safety was skipped totally!

Brilliant!!

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Cuz we are trained from young. Got emergency, first thing to do is wait for instructions first. Then move off orderly. Fire alarms don't work in Singapore. No one moves when they hear the fire alarm go off. I saw that happen in one office. The fire alarm went off and the shutters came down. Nobody moved. All continue doing their own stuff.

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I agree with you.� It is very true.� I witnessed the same at a shopping mall too.� Nobody bothered when they heard the fire alarm.� They continued shopping until announcement was made.

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Perhaps we take it for granted.

Hopefully not shit !

Our smrt already full of shit long long time ago liao.� [shakehead]

Maybe already have.....What is that proverb again?

smokewithoutfire.jpg

Bishan mrt station got fire last year right? That one kick start the whole 4 season??

I was watching the Korean drama Pinocchio recently, with storyline revolving around news manipulation by MSM, simply by shifting the focus to less serve / non-crucial part of an incident.

Can't help but noticed how KBW reply in parliament today are almost in the same manner. On the hairline crack issue, the emphasis is still that these cracks were not safety critical and the reason for not disclosing it earlier is not to invite more speculations or rumors. But I guess the general public are more concerned with the root causes and how they can be assured these cracks are not safety critical.

On the latest incident at Tanjong Pagar station yesterday, the focus is on breakdown of the 20 years old compressor, which he claimed was last maintained 10 days ago. The lack of proper emergency response at time of incident, leakage of refrigerant and it impact on passenger safety was skipped totally!

Brilliant!!

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And yet we keep saying they are not competent and not worth the millions paid.

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Looks like they know exactly what they are doing!

KBW body language revealed that he is actually not very comfortable with what he is saying in the parilment. At times, he is just trying to shun off issue by talking about other non-relevant topics, etc. SARS in 2003 (even my kids also asked me what this epidemic that occurred 13 years ago has to do with hairline crack of our MRT). And later part when he talked about the Tangong Pagar gas leak, he annoyingly displayed the "What can I do attitude" when citing the invetsigation report saying that it is caused by a faulty compressor on an old train...

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If today the same happened at my workplace, and I tell my boss the same thing, he will likely ask me to F off. We need solution, not grandmother story. Everyone knew our train system is aging, so what are the mitigation plan to minimise breakdown and service disruption? The ministry has time after time choose to ignore the basic / facts, but kept diiverging attention and sharing with us their pitiful stories. And with growing population and the Carlite vision, things could only get worst overtime, the way I see it.

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As what most bosses will say to their staff, "Stop telling me the problems! Give me the solutions!!"
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Err, I catch Pinocchio online (my daughter introduce the drama to me actually). Who need to watch from television anymore?

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Side track a little, there is one part of the drama, when the management said that once the Olympics started, all focus would be on it, who will still care about the case (fire incident at chemical waste processing plant). So true! The same happened in Singapore, everyone is talking about Schooling winning the first gold medal (or even Pokemon), nobody cares about hairline cracks anymore...
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the fact that you caught on to it and others are reading it means theres hope still... can only hope others will learn to read between the lines, or notice the missing lines and ignore the obvious distractions.

I too was very disappointed with KBW's response and attitude. He seems so lenient on SMRT, smoke on train tell us to cut them some slack because the battery is old (later on an 'expert' commented that it has to do with poor maintenance), never disclose about the hairline crack�tell us to cut them some�slack because�of 3 reasons, come on, all those are just reverse engineering reasons to retrospectively�try and justify why never disclose in the first place. A�pedigree politician.�

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Just like Shanmugam in parliament earlier in the week (OT a bit), say that the 'overpayment' of allowances to volunteer police was a "procedural error". Firstly, I agree that the pay is very low, not disputing that. But the fact is when the overpayments were made, they were not procedural errors because the minister has not approved them yet. So essentially, Shanmugam made them become a�"procedural error" after he retrospectively approved the payments. In other words, the minister can reduce the severity of a mistake retrospectively, effectively pardoning the mistake. What if it were another minister instead of Shanmugam�and that minister did not hold the same view and did not want to approve the increase for whatever reason, can that minister do so? If that minister can and he indeed does not approve, then the error is�then not�an "administrative error", which proves the point that Shanmugam decided to make it an "administrative error". If however the minister cannot disapprove the increase, then essentially the minister is just a rubber stamper.

Enlightening post. �I always appreciated your serious comments; the way the subject is circumspect, with insights on 'technicalities'. � [thumbsup] ��

And yet we keep saying they are not competent and not worth the millions paid.

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Looks like they know exactly what they are doing!

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wanna open worm can, also can ask y temasick is buying over smrt. Its like throwing more candies at the kid instead of punishing the kid n letting her learn n improve from experience. �we will never progress as a nation if all we do is throw $ at problems instead of attempting to fix d problem first

wanna open worm can, also can ask y temasick is buying over smrt. Its like throwing more candies at the kid instead of punishing the kid n letting her learn n improve from experience. �we will never progress as a nation if all we do is throw $ at problems instead of attempting to fix d problem first

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That's how the current administration works.� No way to change it le.

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Peasant can only suck thumb
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KBW body language revealed that he is actually not very comfortable with what he is saying in the parilment. At times, he is just trying to shun off issue by talking about other non-relevant topics, etc. SARS in 2003 (even my kids also asked me what this epidemic that occurred 13 years ago has to do with hairline crack of our MRT). And later part when he talked about the Tangong Pagar gas leak, he annoyingly displayed the "What can I do attitude" when citing the invetsigation report saying that it is caused by a faulty compressor on an old train...

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If today the same happened at my workplace, and I tell my boss the same thing, he will likely ask me to F off. We need solution, not grandmother story. Everyone knew our train system is aging, so what are the mitigation plan to minimise breakdown and service disruption? The ministry has time after time choose to ignore the basic / facts, but kept diiverging attention and sharing with us their pitiful stories. And with growing population and the Carlite vision, things could only get worst overtime, the way I see it.

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As what most bosses will say to their staff, "Stop telling me the problems! Give me the solutions!!"
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Err, I catch Pinocchio online (my daughter introduce the drama to me actually). Who need to watch from television anymore?

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Side track a little, there is one part of the drama, when the management said that once the Olympics started, all focus would be on it, who will still care about the case (fire incident at chemical waste processing plant). So true! The same happened in Singapore, everyone is talking about Schooling winning the first gold medal (or even Pokemon), nobody cares about hairline cracks anymore...
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That kind of explain the exuberant show of happiness and ~~Relief~~ �Pride in this picture..... �

Just saw the alert, no train service between Punggol and Buangkok station (both bound) due to train fault!

Just saw the alert, no train service between Punggol and Buangkok station (both bound) due to train fault!

Nowadays very reliable , every day also have one problem.
Consistent performance.

IF, the KPI is based on consistency and regularity of breakdown / problem.

Nowadays very reliable , every day also have one problem.
Consistent performance.

IF, the KPI is based on consistency and regularity of breakdown / problem.

Agreed, everytime breakdown same reason. train or track fault! Dont know how come they can allowed same issue to happen over and over again on everyday basis?

Edited by 13177, 18 August 2016 - 08:50 AM.

Agreed, everytime breakdown same reason. train or track fault! Dont know how come they can allowed same issue to happen over and over again on everyday basis?

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What other faults can there be? If the train stop, got to be track or train fault already ma. Occasionally maybe power failure.�

What other faults can there be? If the train stop, got to be track or train fault already ma. Occasionally maybe power failure.�

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Can be driver lao sai. :XD:

What other faults can there be? If the train stop, got to be track or train fault already ma. Occasionally maybe power failure.�

Even though there are no other faults can it be, but if same old fault keeps repeating, then what is the point of having maintenance being done everyday le?� [rolleyes]

Even though there are no other faults can it be, but if same old fault keeps repeating, then what is the point of having maintenance being done everyday le?�

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means maintenance not done properly lor ... maybe parts keep using recon ones cos limited maintenance budget ?

I repost this photo again.

I repost this photo again.
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Huat eh! Lol.

I repost this photo again.

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Jin creative, its more like the wild card everytime though lolx

Taking MRT is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you gonna get.

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I believe there should be more "surprises" on the way

Taking MRT is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you gonna get.

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I believe there should be more "surprises" on the way

No "surprises" from MRT sun will raise from the west! Lol.

Says alot when the no train disruption must be reported.....�

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Sometimes now even there is train disruptions also no one reported. Cause there are way too many disruptions liao. Lol.

Due to the hairline crack on their train, those train which does not have handpole fitted at the door entrance is old train right? Thinking how come they did not scrap these old trains when they pull them out from operation?

in Seoul now. maybe we should have this in the subway in case of fires.

haha. on the other hand should be glad our subway is not so complicated.

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in Seoul now. maybe we should have this in the subway in case of fires.

haha. on the other hand should be glad our subway is not so complicated.

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Seoul is big ..�bigger than Singapore...

The population in Seoul is also much more than Singapore ...

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Enjoy your stay in Seoul :))

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And hopefully there won't be any trains breakdown in both Seoul and Singapore today :))

in Seoul now. maybe we should have this in the subway in case of fires.

haha. on the other hand should be glad our subway is not so complicated.

How to compare with Seoul subway with our train in sg?! Please remember our train system in sg already hopeless when built initially. And now even more beyond hopeless as the years go by. Lol.

i'm trying to decode this message like "Guarantee no spoil"

read from right to left, top to bottom, back to front, alternate character ... there must be some hidden message inside ... lol

i'm trying to decode this message like "Guarantee no spoil"
read from right to left, top to bottom, back to front, alternate character ... there must be some hidden message inside ... lol

guarantee no spoil - good
spoil, no guarantee - bad
no spoil guarantee - good
no guarantee spoil - a play with words to say spoiling is normal?
guarantee spoil, no? - confirm will spoil
spoil guarantee, no? - confirm will spoil

so in conclusion, out of seven combinations of the words which all make sense, it is more likely the trains will spoil.

circle line delay hahhahaha

circle line delay hahhahaha

Wah! Gila Liao!!!!! :XD:

Says alot when the no train disruption must be reported.....�

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Please don't take smooth train operations

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for granted. Break downs are now the norm

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and not the exception.

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Smooth train operations? No such thing nowadays. If no train delay/breakdown, something must be wrong. Lol.

Mai gila gila ah :XD:

circle line delay hahhahaha

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New normal!

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Yawnnnnnnn

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guarantee no spoil - good
spoil, no guarantee - bad
no spoil guarantee - good
no guarantee spoil - a play with words to say spoiling is normal?
guarantee spoil, no? - confirm will spoil
spoil guarantee, no? - confirm will spoil

so in conclusion, out of seven combinations of the words which all make sense, it is more likely the trains will spoil.

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Wow ! [thumbsup]

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In conclusion, in simpler terms... confirm, and double confirm, trains will breakdown

Be the first to hear

NSL breakdown . I'm on platform haaaa

Be the first to hear

NSL breakdown . I'm on platform haaaa

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Wow....hope can recover before peak hour start !�

Ok al

�saw a message ... train service delay ... Radx fault ... something new compare to train fault, track fault, signal fault

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Be the first to hear
NSL breakdown . I'm on platform haaaa

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Wtf he was on board at 5.22am! I rub my eyes seeing the timing.

Wtf he was on board at 5.22am! I rub my eyes seeing the timing.

Lol

I was derrrrr

saw a message ... train service delay ... Radx fault ... something new compare to train fault, track fault, signal fault

Lol.. Dey gotta b creative mah

Wtf he was on board at 5.22am! I rub my eyes seeing the timing.

I'm normally Der whn gantry open at 5am

1st train arrives at 517

don't envy la

radx like potter ... get a ntuc trolley and cheong to a column to board a train ...

like he said ... 1st train arrives at 517 ... lol

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Wtf he was on board at 5.22am! I rub my eyes seeing the timing.

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Edited by Wt_know, 30 August 2016 - 07:44 AM.

Wtf he was on board at 5.22am! I rub my eyes seeing the timing.

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Radx has been the earliest of the early birds since God knows when..�

Radx has been the earliest of the early birds since God knows when..

Haaaa yes bro wayyyy back then in 2002 too

Force of habit la

Last time go school must sit outside wait guard open gate...

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