mycarforum: ALL consolidated SMRT/NEL/KTM simisai BREAKDOWNS here! part 13

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For those who worked in the Navy, you'd know how much maintenance they do.

3 mth, 6 mth,12 mth, 24 mth..preventive maintenance schedule.

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So the navy chief should take over as CEO of SMRT ... :serious-business:

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The airforce guy take over ERP ..... :secret-laugh:

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For those who worked in the Navy, you'd know how much maintenance they do.

3 mth, 6 mth,12 mth, 24 mth..preventive maintenance schedule.

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There is also the 8 mthly EI(Engineering Inspection) and 16 mthly docking. These two are major milestones in the engineering dept for the ship. The EI is a killer, cos the inspector is from HQ Fleet. Every little thing also pick up.

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Now, me also doing PMS for my company vessels. Here very siao on one. Any failure, immediately look at the history and who signed off on the job. Any failure, need to review and put in place a new/updated maintenance schedule. So I am a believer in preventive maintenance. The same thing I do for my car. [grin]

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which means they decide to come clean liao?

maybe? I donno

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You think ley with erection around the corner ... :slow:

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You think ley with erection around the corner ...

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3 Critical Life Lessons We Should All Learn from Lee Kuan Yew

By imoney . 25 March 2015 . Featured OnShare

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No matter which side of the political spectrum you stand on, it�s safe to say that Singapore wouldn�t be what it is today without Lee Kuan Yew. And Singapore has come a long way since he became Prime Minister in 1959 � transforming it from a vulnerable city-state to a global financial hub within a generation.

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He was not a man known for his warm personality, empathy, or acceptance of opposing political viewpoints � but no one can doubt that every decision he made, no matter how controversial, was made with Singapore�s best interests in mind.

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Here are 3 critical life lessons that all of us should learn from Singapore�s founding father:

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#1 Success Requires Preparing Well Into the Future

Successful leaders plan ahead � and Lee was a master at anticipating challenges that could affect Singapore�s future, and identifying the solutions. He was especially keen on finding long-term answers to the following Singapore issues:

Urban planning: For urban planning, he established a long-term plan to clear land, build public housing units, and resettle Singaporeans into �towns� all around the island.
Infrastructure: For infrastructure, he put into action the building of an expressway network and the MRT system to connect the island�s towns and business district.
Racial integration: For racial integration, he sought to build a greater sense of community by integrating Chinese, Malays and Indians into public housing communities and schools.
National defence: For national defence, he established National Service (NS), adopting a conscription scheme similar to that of Israel and also helped broker the Five Power Defence Agreement to protect Singapore�s sovereignty.

How you can apply this lesson to your life: By preparing well in advance for any career or financial problems that may arise in the future, you can mitigate their impact. For example, if you are a 30-year-old working professional, you should start preparing for retirement by purchasing enough insurance coverage and building up a diversified investment portfolio.

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#2 Build Strong Relationships and Continually Expand Your Network

It�s a sad fact � but small nations without ties to larger, more powerful nations don�t remain autonomous very long. Lee was well aware of this reality and merged with the Federation of Malaysia in 1962, only to get expelled three years later in 1965. It became an independent nation the same year.

Despite this major setback, Lee continued to expand Singapore�s �network� by becoming a member of the UN (1965), co-founding ASEAN (1967) and building strong relationships with China, India and the United States during his tenure as Prime Minister.

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How you can apply this lesson to your life: By continually growing your network and nurturing business and personal relationships, you gain access to new knowledge and opportunities that would have otherwise been inaccessible. For example, if you are a business owner who has a problem hiring good employees, you can join a business owner network to find out how more experienced business owners solve their hiring problems.

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#3 Know Your Weaknesses and Focus on Strengths

Lee understood that Singapore�s biggest weakness was its lack of natural resources. This meant that the nation needed to import practically all of life�s necessities � including food, water and building materials such as sand. Instead of focusing on the weakness, Lee sought to limit its impact on Singapore�s growth by developing the nation�s strengths instead.

He utilised Singapore�s strategic position as a sea- and air-trading hub to manufacture and export technological products such as semiconductor wafers and refine oil and chemicals. He also established the business-friendly environment that helped transform Singapore into the financial/technology hub that it is today.

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How you can apply this lesson to your life: By acknowledging and understanding your weaknesses, you can limit their impact on your professional or financial well-being � and ultimately overshadow them by focusing your energy on developing your strengths instead. For example, if you are a business development executive who communicates better in conversation than in writing � develop your speaking ability and focus on networking events.

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A Man With a Lifetime of Lessons to Offer

He was a man who never made excuses for his mistakes (nor was he apologetic about his shortcomings) and he stuck to his decisions, no matter how unpopular.

He was also intensely determined to transform Singapore into the first-world nation that it is today. This trait � determination � is best exemplified by a quote from his book, The Man and His Ideas:

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Perhaps that is the greatest life lesson we can learn from Singapore�s founding father � have the determination to pursue your life�s passion, even if the world is against you.

#4 Have a strong and capable team supporting you. You can have the vision but if no one support you then also no use.

#4 Have a strong and capable team supporting you. You can have the vision but if no one support you then also no use.

But the problem not easy to find strong and capable ppl for the present team though they are supporting d leader.

In the army if your rifle has a tiny sign of rust, you will sign extra. Can we do the same in SMRT ?

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For those who worked in the Navy, you'd know how much maintenance they do.

3 mth, 6 mth,12 mth, 24 mth..preventive maintenance schedule.

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no work? arse kena kick

everything worked

everything

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now we got jokers talking all kind of crap

we are paying them good

these guys better work, not talk cock sing song

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Yes, last time, things not working, change chief, work on root cause to fix it�.....now.....not working....don't expect everything to be perfect !!!!

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Last Week "Very concerned" now "Unprecedented"..."Unable to handle"

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Onwards to SG50� :a-bang:

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Last Week "Very concerned" now "Unprecedented"..."Unable to handle"

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Onwards to SG50�

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you mean SGD50M? [grin]

Edited by Mason016, 15 July 2015 - 05:05 PM.

Edited by Tayspiderx, 15 July 2015 - 08:15 PM.

LTA has turned to Swedish and Japanese experts after local engineers failed to discover the root cause of the massive MRT breakdown that occurred on July 7. I personally think this really reflect very badly on the competency of the staff in smrt! Futhermore i believe the experts also need time to find out the root cause, so meanwhile commuters is like 'risking' to take the mrt, as nobody knows when will the next breakdown will happen?!

Woot! NSL train fault.� [smash]

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Khatib to Yio Chu Kang stations affected.

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Woot! NSL train fault.�

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Khatib to Yio Chu Kang stations affected.

What fault?

What fault?

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Doesn't matter anymore.

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We are numb to it already. [laugh]

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Can be train fault, signal fault, rail fault, human fault, etc. We don't give a damn I guess, just want a robust and reliable train system.

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A month without train breakdown for SG is a partaeeee already!

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Btw, what is ORGANIC capacity?

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Woot! NSL train fault.�

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Khatib to Yio Chu Kang stations affected.

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" Only " these 2 stations affected?

Wow....that's a big improvement compared to both lines down!!! :a-bang: � :a-fun:

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Doesn't matter anymore.

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We are numb to it already.

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Can be train fault, signal fault, rail fault, human fault, etc. We don't give a damn I guess, just want a robust and reliable train system.

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A month without train breakdown for SG is a partaeeee already!

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Btw, what is ORGANIC capacity?

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Must be related to capacity for usage of manure :ph34r:

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Must be related to capacity for usage of manure

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Oh, he meant they�have a lot of shithead in the management level.

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" Only " these 2 stations affected?

Wow....that's a big improvement compared to both lines down!!! �

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I google train breakdown

guess what I got

1/3 old train pic

1/3 Thomas the train stuff

1/3 mrt :a-bang: � �

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https://www.google.c...gIVUQSOCh1fRAiR

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Doesn't matter anymore.

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We are numb to it already.

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Can be train fault, signal fault, rail fault, human fault, etc. We don't give a damn I guess, just want a robust and reliable train system.

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A month without train breakdown for SG is a partaeeee already!

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Btw, what is ORGANIC capacity?

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I google but no meaningful result

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https://www.google.c...ganic capacity"

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maybe is one of those new word stuff they make nowadays

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I google train breakdown

guess what I got

1/3 old train pic

1/3 Thomas the train stuff

1/3 mrt � �

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https://www.google.c...gIVUQSOCh1fRAiR

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google desmond and train breakdown more often.�You might get 90% desmond later! [laugh] ��

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I google train breakdown

guess what I got

1/3 old train pic

1/3 Thomas the train stuff

1/3 mrt � �

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https://www.google.c...gIVUQSOCh1fRAiR

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I google but no meaningful result

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https://www.google.c...ganic capacity"

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maybe is one of those new word stuff they make nowadays

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Ask Turboflat4 to explain.

What fault?

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This fault.

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http://singaporeseen...tions-and-stops

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Ask Turboflat4 to explain.

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Explain what?

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The "train breakdown" image search flummoxes me as well. At first, I assumed it might be an artefact of us being redirected through Google Singapore, but I got the same results even when I VPNed through a Japanese IP using the Japanese google search on a different browser with cookies cleared. Only explanation: SMRT breakdowns really are world famous!

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As for "organic capacity", I've only used it in the sense of Porker's ass, which has just the right capacity to take in my organ.

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The "train breakdown" image search flummoxes me as well. At first, I assumed it might be an artefact of us being redirected through Google Singapore, but I got the same results even when I VPNed through a Japanese IP using the Japanese google search on a different browser with cookies cleared. Only explanation: SMRT breakdowns really are world famous!
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As for "organic capacity", I've only used it in the sense of Porker's ass, which has just the right capacity to take in my organ.

Yup my a $$ is so tight and you slipped in easily

Ahh haa.... It was the water fault! Not your fault. Not my fault.

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Happening now: Land Transport Authority gives updates on findings of the massive SMRT train service disruption in July. See here for more: https://twitter.com/STcom

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UPDATE: Train breakdown caused by intermittent tripping of rail power system at multiple locations, says LTA deputy chief Chua Chong Kheng. Water had dripped onto a third rail insulator from a tunnel leak at Tanjong Pagar station. This led to the activation of the safety mechanism.

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Hmm, so it's called "dripping"?

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Tunnel leak...hmmm.� Not ever�taking trains to Tanjong Pagar, lest.

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Water leaks at tanjong pagar station? So it is still safe along this line?

Ahh haa.... It was the water fault! Not your fault. Not my fault.

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Happening now: Land Transport Authority gives updates on findings of the massive SMRT train service disruption in July. See here for more: https://twitter.com/STcom

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UPDATE: Train breakdown caused by intermittent tripping of rail power system at multiple locations, says LTA deputy chief Chua Chong Kheng. Water had dripped onto a third rail insulator from a tunnel leak at Tanjong Pagar station. This led to the activation of the safety mechanism.

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Its not flooding, not ponding.... its "watering"

Water leaks at tanjong pagar station? So it is still safe along this line?

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Safe lah... i think so :)

So, is this SMRT responsibility or LTA responsibility?

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If its LTA responsibility to maintain the tunnel and track, they would impose a heavy fine on themselves? [lipsrsealed]

Ahh haa.... It was the water fault! Not your fault. Not my fault.

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Happening now: Land Transport Authority gives updates on findings of the massive SMRT train service disruption in July. See here for more: https://twitter.com/STcom

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UPDATE: Train breakdown caused by intermittent tripping of rail power system at multiple locations, says LTA deputy chief Chua Chong Kheng. Water had dripped onto a third rail insulator from a tunnel leak at Tanjong Pagar station. This led to the activation of the safety mechanism.

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tunnel leak?

old liao lah

need to do more exercise [grin]

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Ahh haa.... It was the water fault! Not your fault. Not my fault.

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Happening now: Land Transport Authority gives updates on findings of the massive SMRT train service disruption in July. See here for more: https://twitter.com/STcom

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UPDATE: Train breakdown caused by intermittent tripping of rail power system at multiple locations, says LTA deputy chief Chua Chong Kheng. Water had dripped onto a third rail insulator from a tunnel leak at Tanjong Pagar station. This led to the activation of the safety mechanism.

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oh ... water problem ... so Tuck Yew will refer the matter to Vivian� ? :XD:

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oh ... water problem ... so Tuck Yew will refer the matter to Vivian� ?

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cb....he thinks we all dont watch NatGeo mei?

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now anything or everything also got a picture to chut [laugh] machiam the referee red card yellow card [laugh]

should have a central database of all these pictures, divided into category for easy reference [laugh]

seems like its still back to maintenance ... or rather the lack of it over the years.

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cheaper + faster + better�� =� lower productivity

seems like its still back to maintenance ... or rather the lack of it over the years.

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cheaper + faster + better�� =� lower productivity

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It could be some things are harder to maintain.

I wonder would things have turn out differently if the third rail has not been used.�

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that's why those guys on top better make sure they focus on core essentials
and not some high visibility novel projects

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$50M fine
SG 50

Bra hahaha!

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oh ... water problem ... so Tuck Yew will refer the matter to Vivian� ?

When things starts to get wet??

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It could be some things are harder to maintain.

I wonder would things have turn out differently if the third rail has not been used.�

I think third rail is like third leg... cannot do without!

So now the problem is the third ~~leg~~ rail is wet??

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I think third rail is like third leg... cannot do without!

So now the problem is the third ~~leg~~ rail is wet??

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There is an alternative to a third rail.� :confident:

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There is an alternative to a third rail.�

Joking to entertain me? Why blame the 3rd rail? Why blame the water? Why no one blame the design? Why no mone blame the operation? Why no one blame the maintenance?

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Let us face the truth. If there is/are design flaw(s). there is bound to be more operation and/or maintenance issues. A good design will have minimium operation and maintenance requirements. Many good designs are maintenance-free or automated maintenance. [:p]

Edited by Owner-driver, 29 July 2015 - 07:50 PM.

Joking to entertain me? Why blame the 3rd rail? Why blame the water? Why no one blame the design? Why no mone blame the operation? Why no one blame the maintenance?

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Let us face the truth. If there is/are design flaw(s). there is bound to be more operation and/or maintenance issues. A good design will have minimium operation and maintenance requirements. Many good designs are maintenance-free or automated maintenance.

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In the preliminary engineering design (Singapore MTS Phase III), �it is mentioned that overhead is preferred over third rail.

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P.S. �The design of the signalling interval is 90 seconds NS and 100 secs EW.

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In the preliminary engineering design (Singapore MTS Phase III), �it is mentioned that overhead is preferred over third rail.

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P.S. �The design of the signalling interval is 90 seconds NS and 100 secs EW.

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To my knowledge the 3rd rail on carrys the power to drive the trains. The small cable besides is the signal cable?

To my knowledge the 3rd rail on carrys the power to drive the trains. The small cable besides is the signal cable?

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AFAIK, the third rail supplies the power and is near to the ground.

The prelim engrg design indicates for the adoption of an overhead supply for its advantages.

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I contrast the NS/EW Line (third rail) vs the NEL (IIRC, ovehead) - when the NEL previously has the u-bolt / power line issues, �they seem to be quickly identified. �I figured that if the supply is overhead, maintenance will be less difficult vs the third rail nearer to the ground which is most likely covered up.�

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For the signalling, I should clarify that the prelim engrg design indicates it is 90 secs for NS and 100 secs for EW.�

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I am trying to understand why of recent, �they are improving from 120 secs to 100 secs.�

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"73% of Signalling System Upgrading Completed on NSL

8.�� We are also upgrading the signalling system for the NSEWL to allow trains to run at intervals of 100 seconds, compared to the shortest possible intervals of 120 seconds today. This means shorter waiting times for commuters and a 20% increase in our rail network capacity.

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Source :�http://www.lta.gov.s...86-0ed64b85bc24

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Technically, I am unable to answer your "small cable besides is the signal cable?"�

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P.S. �I just like to dig up old stuffs to read. � [laugh]

Edited by Kklee, 29 July 2015 - 08:45 PM.

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AFAIK, the third rail supplies the power and is near to the ground.

The prelim engrg design indicates for the adoption of an overhead supply for its advantages.

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I contrast the NS/EW Line (third rail) vs the NEL (IIRC, ovehead) - when the NEL previously has the u-bolt / power line issues, �they seem to be quickly identified. �I figured that if the supply is overhead, maintenance will be less difficult vs the third rail nearer to the ground which is most likely covered up.�

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For the signalling, I should clarify that the prelim engrg design indicates it is 90 secs for NS and 100 secs for EW.�

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I am trying to understand why of recent, �they are improving from 120 secs to 100 secs.�

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"73% of Signalling System Upgrading Completed on NSL

8.�� We are also upgrading the signalling system for the NSEWL to allow trains to run at intervals of 100 seconds, compared to the shortest possible intervals of 120 seconds today. This means shorter waiting times for commuters and a 20% increase in our rail network capacity.

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Source :�http://www.lta.gov.s...86-0ed64b85bc24

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Technically, I am unable to answer your "small cable besides is the signal cable?"�

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P.S. �I just like to dig up old stuffs to read. �

To my knowledge, the EW line, NS line were originally designed for one train every 6 minutes off-peak. One train every 2 minutes during peak-hours. Now, its so frequent during peak-hours that there is repeated train jams, waiting for the one ahead to clear the next station. This also means that the power conductors are having minimium cooling time if any. Could be among reasons for frequent repeated breakdowns not yet solved.

Overhead maintenance is more tedious and costly. Access to 3rd rail inspection/maintenance does not requires the�ladder that the overhead system demand.

By allowing for cross ingress/egress, the train alighting/boarding time can be halved. More trains can ply during peak-hours, subject to the components limitation.

Edited by Owner-driver, 29 July 2015 - 08:56 PM.

To my knowledge, the EW line, NS line were originally designed for one train every 6 minutes off-peak. One train every 2 minutes during peak-hours. Now, its so frequent during peak-hours that there is repeated train jams, waiting for the one ahead to clear the next station. This also means that the power conductors are having minimium cooling time if any. Could be among reasons for frequent repeated breakdowns not yet solved.

Overhead maintenance is more tedious and costly. Access to 3rd rail inspection/maintenance does not requires the�ladder that the overhead system demand.

By allowing for cross ingress/egress, the train alighting/boarding time can be halved. More trains can ply during peak-hours, subject to the components limitation.

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I thought it was every 3 minutes???

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The 3rd rail on the NSEW lines is underneath the grey plastic� cover running on the side of track away from passenger access a.bout 450mm above ballst top level.

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Any cabling should be inside the pc concrete cable troughs which are located alongside the track and dug into the ballast.

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Not sure what any cable is doing running outside those troughs.

To my knowledge, the EW line, NS line were originally designed for one train every 6 minutes off-peak. One train every 2 minutes during peak-hours. Now, its so frequent during peak-hours that there is repeated train jams, waiting for the one ahead to clear the next station. This also means that the power conductors are having minimium cooling time if any. Could be among reasons for frequent repeated breakdowns not yet solved.

Overhead maintenance is more tedious and costly. Access to 3rd rail inspection/maintenance does not requires the�ladder that the overhead system demand.

By allowing for cross ingress/egress, the train alighting/boarding time can be halved. More trains can ply during peak-hours, subject to the components limitation.

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I think third rail is like third leg... cannot do without!

So now the problem is the third ~~leg~~ rail is wet??

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Just put a condom on it.

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That will make it water proof. [thumbsup]

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I thought it was every 3 minutes???

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The 3rd rail on the NSEW lines is underneath the grey plastic� cover running on the side of track away from passenger access a.bout 450mm above ballst top level.

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Any cabling should be inside the pc concrete cable troughs which are located alongside the track and dug into the ballast.

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Not sure what any cable is doing running outside those troughs.

Design and actual/eventual operational usage mis-match. 6 minutes against 2 minutes off-peak. 2 minutes against asap during peak-hours.

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My comments are based on observations when the Bishan Depot was about to be in operation. There had been some upgrading since.

To my knowledge, the EW line, NS line were originally designed for one train every 6 minutes off-peak. One train every 2 minutes during peak-hours. Now, its so frequent during peak-hours that there is repeated train jams, waiting for the one ahead to clear the next station. This also means that the power conductors are having minimium cooling time if any. Could be among reasons for frequent repeated breakdowns not yet solved.

Overhead maintenance is more tedious and costly. Access to 3rd rail inspection/maintenance does not requires the�ladder that the overhead system demand.

By allowing for cross ingress/egress, the train alighting/boarding time can be halved. More trains can ply during peak-hours, subject to the components limitation.

Cant believe the system is set initially that train runs every 6 mins off peak and 2 mins peak! Even now they have upgraded to 90 and 100 sec, i still find slow! But why is there a difference of 90 and 100 sec ar?

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Anyway, shorter of train frequent doesn't mean good, cause train overall still gets delay and slow due to train needs to slow down or even stop due to train ahead is not clear at next station.

More major MRT service delays in first quarter of 2015

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SINGAPORE - Five major MRT service disruptions occurred in just the first quarter of this year, close to half the total number of incidents last year, The Straits Times has learnt.

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According to figures on the Land Transport Authority (LTA) website, there were five service delays lasting more than 30 minutes between January and March 2015.

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For the whole of 2014, there were 12 such disruptions, and in 2013 and 2012, just eight for each year.

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The incidents this year included a four hour and 38 minute breakdown on the North-South Line on Feb 23, between Yew Tee and Kranji stations. This was due to a damaged power-collecting device on the train that affected the third rail, which supplies power to trains.

When the number of major services delays in the first quarter of this year are averaged out over 100,000km of train distance travelled, the incident rate is 0.07.

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This is up from 0.04 in 2014, and 0.03 in 2012 and 2013. It is also higher than the 0.05 recorded in 2011, which saw two major breakdowns on the North-South Line in December that year.

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But the overall number of service delays - which are defined as being more than five minutes - have reduced across the MRT network. The incident rate in the first quarter of this year was 0.79, down from 1.17 in 2014.

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Four major service delays occurred in the LRT network in the first quarter, with all the incidents occurring on the Bukit Panjang LRT system. For the whole of 2014, just five such service delays took place across the LRT network.

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http://www.straitsti...quarter-of-2015

The deposits take time to build up. So the maintainers have been dismissing what they have observed for a long time, until it caused a massive system trip. Classic case of ignorance/complacency .....http://www.straitsti...-july-7-massive

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SINGAPORE - The Land Transport Authority (LTA) and SMRT have pinpointed a contaminated electrical component as the cause of a massive disruption that crippled the entire North-South and East-West MRT lines on July 7.

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Salt deposits had accumulated on an insulator for the power-supplying third rail along a stretch of the East-West Line between Tanjong Pagar and Raffles Place stations.

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This was one of a "confluence of factors" that caused a power trip leading to the breakdown of the North-South and East-West lines, the LTA and SMRT said on Wednesday.

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Cant believe the system is set initially that train runs every 6 mins off peak and 2 mins peak! Even now they have upgraded to 90 and 100 sec, i still find slow! But why is there a difference of 90 and 100 sec ar?
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Anyway, shorter of train frequent doesn't mean good, cause train overall still gets delay and slow due to train needs to slow down or even stop due to train ahead is not clear at next station.

6 mins off peak and 2 mins peak was a luxury in those early days of mrt

Have you ever waited for a bus during those times?

I reminisce that period. One word: simply fantastic n shook. Like 1st run movie show. 6 cabins for a population of 2.2m. Now, still 6 cabins for 5.47m. Don't understand, our MRT is built much after HK MTR n they have 8 cabins carrying about 2000 ppl/trip n ours 1500 ppl/trip. No wonder d crowd during busy hours. Bad bad planning

31 July 2015 - 09:03 AM
Watwheels

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The brickbats come a flying...

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http://www.straitsti...ans-need-fixing

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"When then Communications Minister Mah Bow Tan promised Singaporeans in 1995 that they would have a world-class land transport system, it set expectations fairly high."

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That's the root cause of unhappiness right there, the promise not fulfilled. LoL... And now it's coming back to haunt them. Not to mention the accolades of awards they have been receiving that made them complacent.

Ouch. That hurts.

31 July 2015 - 09:09 AM
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As much as I dislike LKY's views on things, I do agree that during his tenure, his cabinet had capable ppl who had better foresight and planned rather thoroughly on progressing the country's future.

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Whats happening right now are problems exacerbated by policies from roughly 10 years ago, my estimate as I cbf to look into it, where the flood gates for immigration was opened while disregarding improving on basic infrastructures to cater for this growing population.

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This imo just shows that some the current ppl presiding over this country are incompetent while only providing lip service and I would believe that they would not have made the grade if LKY was still running this place.
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that is why many people said that opposition is not a threat to pap

the real threat to pap is the old pap

those old guards are just simply good

31 July 2015 - 09:53 AM
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As much as I dislike LKY's views on things, I do agree that during his tenure, his cabinet had capable ppl who had better foresight and planned rather thoroughly on progressing the country's future.

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Whats happening right now are problems exacerbated by policies from roughly 10 years ago, my estimate as I cbf to look into it, where the flood gates for immigration was opened while disregarding improving on basic infrastructures to cater for this growing population.

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This imo just shows that some the current ppl presiding over this country are incompetent while only providing lip service and I would believe that they would not have made the grade if LKY was still running this place.
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It is not that the older generation of leaders have better foresight. But rather, these are the folks who are genuine in improving the living standards of Singapore. Majority of them walk the talk. They get involved in the whole process. They don't sit in air-con room discussing tactics. They walk the ground, talk to people on the ground to find out what's going on. They listen, understand, make a decision.�

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But today, how many of these leaders within SMRT or even our Minister for transport actually walked the length of the MRT tunnel and discuss the issues with engineers? They are probably being briefed by middle management in nice comfortable air-conditioned meeting room? The decision makers are so disconnected with what's happening on the ground.

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And let's not forget our public trains are profit driven. Making money is their priority. The rest are secondary. There is no impetus for the management to divert money into maintenance. Why make the books look bad by diverting money into maintenance program when they can cut those spending, make the books look good, drive up the revenue, drive up the stock price. Posting record profits year after year is wayyyy better than increasing satisfaction index.�

31 July 2015 - 10:06 AM
13177

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As much as I dislike LKY's views on things, I do agree that during his tenure, his cabinet had capable ppl who had better foresight and planned rather thoroughly on progressing the country's future.

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Whats happening right now are problems exacerbated by policies from roughly 10 years ago, my estimate as I cbf to look into it, where the flood gates for immigration was opened while disregarding improving on basic infrastructures to cater for this growing population.

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This imo just shows that some the current ppl presiding over this country are incompetent while only providing lip service and I would believe that they would not have made the grade if LKY was still running this place.
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Quite true, seems like problems only started when they start the foreigner flood gate wide wide. Worst of all, like you said they didn't ensure that our place is ready for such a huge surge of people, and yet they still go ahead with the policy!

31 July 2015 - 10:19 AM
Picnic06-Biante15

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that is why many people said that opposition is not a threat to pap

the real threat to pap is the old pap

those old guards are just simply good

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Reading these reminds me of the past during recession time. young pap wanted to touch the reserve but old pap said no.�

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Then came the a long argument on who has the right to touch the reserve .....

31 July 2015 - 05:58 PM
Owner-driver

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Reading these reminds me of the past during recession time. young pap wanted to touch the reserve but old pap said no.�

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Then came the a long argument on who has the right to touch the reserve .....

Need not touch without GRCs. Now got GRCs have to touch.

31 July 2015 - 09:50 PM
keanie

Quite true, seems like problems only started when they start the foreigner flood gate wide wide. Worst of all, like you said they didn't ensure that our place is ready for such a huge surge of people, and yet they still go ahead with the policy!

The only thing that is ready are the residential units. There is a glut for the private properties. Seems like they are preparing for d 6.9m target.

31 July 2015 - 10:38 PM
13177

The only thing that is ready are the residential units. There is a glut for the private properties. Seems like they are preparing for d 6.9m target.

Actually residential units also not say enough.

01 August 2015 - 06:41 AM
Owner-driver

The only thing that is ready are the residential units. There is a glut for the private properties. Seems like they are preparing for d 6.9m target.

Strange but true. Told China got about 70% unsold units since 2013. Hence the unannounced slowdown.

01 August 2015 - 09:42 AM
Christan

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that is why many people said that opposition is not a threat to pap

the real threat to pap is the old pap

those old guards are just simply good

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Agree. And the funny thing is you see MSM talking about how good the 1st batch of PAP leaders helped to raise Singapore from 3rd world to 1st, the good they have done. This actually open our eyes to see more clearly how this present batch sucks compred to these pioneers & begs the Q can we see this 'bo liao' batch� lead us for the next 5, 10 yrs. A frightening thought indeed
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01 August 2015 - 08:14 PM
Owner-driver

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Agree. And the funny thing is you see MSM talking about how good the 1st batch of PAP leaders helped to raise Singapore from 3rd world to 1st, the good they have done. This actually open our eyes to see more clearly how this present batch sucks compred to these pioneers & begs the Q can we see this 'bo liao' batch� lead us for the next 5, 10 yrs. A frightening thought indeed
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+1.

06 August 2015 - 05:18 PM
Angcheek

12 Downtown Line stations to open in December, free rides for limited time.

Public transport fare reductions are expected to kick in on Dec 27, when 12 new stations for the Downtown Line open.�http://bit.ly/1KSm6vf

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I am quite sure it will be a Unforgettable Christmas / New Year period this year �.................. �(for the wrong reasons)�

Edited by Angcheek, 06 August 2015 - 05:19 PM.

06 August 2015 - 05:20 PM
Pinobii

12 Downtown Line stations to open in December, free rides for limited time.
Public transport fare reductions are expected to kick in on Dec 27, when 12 new stations for the Downtown Line open.�http://bit.ly/1KSm6vf
�
I am quite sure it will be a Unforgettable Christmas / New Year period this year �.................. �(for the wrong reasons)�

U planning countdown party har?

Don't forget to invite me, Hee hee

06 August 2015 - 05:24 PM
Angcheek

U planning countdown party har?

Don't forget to invite me, Hee hee

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ya lor ... now cannot already for New year. mrt sure break down everywhere.�

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Now already cannot tahan still add in another line .........�

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Maybe go siloso beach and have form party with pretty chio bu in bikini Waaahahhaa�

Edited by Angcheek, 06 August 2015 - 05:24 PM.

12 August 2015 - 01:40 PM
13177

12 Downtown Line stations to open in December, free rides for limited time.

Public transport fare reductions are expected to kick in on Dec 27, when 12 new stations for the Downtown Line open.�http://bit.ly/1KSm6vf

�

I am quite sure it will be a Unforgettable Christmas / New Year period this year �.................. �(for the wrong reasons)�

How come so good to give fee rides for limited time�when the 12 Downtown Line open in Dec?

12 August 2015 - 01:47 PM
Angcheek

How come so good to give fee rides for limited time�when the 12 Downtown Line open in Dec?

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it is what we call LOAD TEST�

12 August 2015 - 01:59 PM
Hamburger

So cannot complain when break down happens.�

12 August 2015 - 02:10 PM
13177

So cannot complain when break down happens.�

Maybe they sure know that everytime when a new line open, sure have problem. So if they give free ride, people cannot complain?! Lol.

12 August 2015 - 04:12 PM
Blueray

Downtown Line got 3rd cable or not hah ?

13 August 2015 - 12:04 AM
Owner-driver

�

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it is what we call LOAD TEST�

Load Test is static. Road Test is dynamic.

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