mycarforum: KIA K3 Owners check-in! part 17

mini meetup? lol

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hehe anyone near bukit merah? can do a group car photoshoot, and also check out each other's mods for inspiration.

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i see a blue K3 quite regularly near my mother in law's place.

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anyone done their strut bars yet? Wonder if really need to get the entire system to see improvement in handling, or if i just get the front strut bars above the engine will see improvement alrdy

Edited by ricleosg, 27 July 2015 - 02:27 PM.

can do at turf city or rail mall. free parking with kopi ard

ricleosg, on 27 Jul 2015 - 2:25 PM, said:

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hehe anyone near bukit merah? can do a group car photoshoot, and also check out each other's mods for inspiration.

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i see a blue K3 quite regularly near my mother in law's place.

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anyone done their strut bars yet? Wonder if really need to get the entire system to see improvement in handling, or if i just get the front strut bars above the engine will see improvement alrdy

used to stay telok blangah till I move to punggol 4 years ago. lol.

but Singapore not tat big, meet anywhere also can..wahahaha..

so far my mscp have a white K3, include me two :)

Enzomatrix, on 27 Jul 2015 - 3:17 PM, said:

can do at turf city or rail mall. free parking with kopi ard

not bad...:)

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hehe anyone near bukit merah? can do a group car photoshoot, and also check out each other's mods for inspiration.

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i see a blue K3 quite regularly near my mother in law's place.

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anyone done their strut bars yet? Wonder if really need to get the entire system to see improvement in handling, or if i just get the front strut bars above the engine will see improvement alrdy

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I'm sure we can find a hangout place for us K3 owners! Somewhere big and isolated so won't attract too much attention

Free Parking* important!!!

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Any quotation have you gotten for the entire system? The only strut bar brands I know for K3 is the malaysian 'Ultra Racing'

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maomao82..show pics please . lol..NPNT..wahahahaha.

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the K3 eurostyle, quite responsive, you have to cater for the fact that it is not a capacitive touch screen, but is a resistive touch screen. so you have to actually depress on the screen, not only touch.

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the sound is quite good, i just needed to tweak the bass and mids up a 2-3 steps to make it pleasing to my ears.�

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Good thing about the eurostyle is the GPS search is pretty easy to use, and the system is integrated with the rear reverse camera.

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Agreed! The K3 Eurostyle is reali responsive in terms of GPS location hook-up, route re-calculation. Personally I like resistive touch, but that would also need haven to get 3rd party screen protector to prevent scratches. Voice Speech is very clear, but quite loud (nv reali play around with the setting. Reverse cam is reali bright (further enhanced by the super bright LED tail-lite). ��

Maomao82, on 27 Jul 2015 - 4:34 PM, said:

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Agreed! The K3 Eurostyle is reali responsive in terms of GPS location hook-up, route re-calculation. Personally I like resistive touch, but that would also need haven to get 3rd party screen protector to prevent scratches. Voice Speech is very clear, but quite loud (nv reali play around with the setting. Reverse cam is reali bright (further enhanced by the super bright LED tail-lite). ��

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�of cos eh sai!!!!! sleek and clean..lol

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for a moment, I tot u have an antenna on the roof. haha

bo lang hoot other color ah? like all buy white color. i buy white oso lol

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cant wait for it to come.

Edited by Julietta, 27 July 2015 - 05:03 PM.

Julietta, on 27 Jul 2015 - 5:01 PM, said:Julietta, on 27 Jul 2015 - 5:01 PM, said:

bo lang hoot other color ah? like all buy white color. i buy white oso lol

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cant wait for it to come.

soon soon soon...:)

Tydros, on 27 Jul 2015 - 4:25 PM, said:

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I'm sure we can find a hangout place for us K3 owners! Somewhere big and isolated so won't attract too much attention

Free Parking* important!!!

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Any quotation have you gotten for the entire system? The only strut bar brands I know for K3 is the malaysian 'Ultra Racing'

meetup, hard not to attract attention. lol.

big carpark, only can think of kallang...:)

Edited by boobic, 27 July 2015 - 05:19 PM.

Any quotation have you gotten for the entire system? The only strut bar brands I know for K3 is the malaysian 'Ultra Racing'

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hehe i haven't really gotten a local quotation, but saw some sets available from Taobao.�

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But am also not sure if the China model Strut bars can fit on our Korean K3s...

nice pic la bro hehe... think your HP pic shared here has higher resolution den what i shared from my camera :p

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Agreed! The K3 Eurostyle is reali responsive in terms of GPS location hook-up, route re-calculation. Personally I like resistive touch, but that would also need haven to get 3rd party screen protector to prevent scratches. Voice Speech is very clear, but quite loud (nv reali play around with the setting. Reverse cam is reali bright (further enhanced by the super bright LED tail-lite). ��

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when u go tat time de sales quote u de sports w guarantee coe how much?

Sports with Coe guarantee ...104k

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hehe i haven't really gotten a local quotation, but saw some sets available from Taobao.�

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But am also not sure if the China model Strut bars can fit on our Korean K3s...

nice pic la bro hehe... think your HP pic shared here has higher resolution den what i shared from my camera :p

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Those china one no use. I tried before. Front end of the car still flexing when driving hard. Change to a proper one and the front end really became stiffer.

actually i juz find the suspension too soft.. lol got lobang for coil over?

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I'm sure we can find a hangout place for us K3 owners! Somewhere big and isolated so won't attract too much attention

Free Parking* important!!!

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Any quotation have you gotten for the entire system? The only strut bar brands I know for K3 is the malaysian 'Ultra Racing'

Maybe can hang out at C&C showroom!� [laugh]

Maybe can hang out at C&C showroom!�

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ya. got free coffee to drink, bored already can go test drive hehe

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ya. got free coffee to drink, bored already can go test drive hehe

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hehehe that one maybe we should park somewhere else and walk over to C&C. otherwise it's a little odd for a whole row of K3s to be parked at C&C and for us to be test driving Kias keke.... Wait ppl mistake our cars as the demo cars

actually i juz find the suspension too soft.. lol got lobang for coil over?

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mmmmm soft ah? I thought it was a little on the stiff side, but just nice for me. The previous cars i drove had softer suspensions that was more comfortable going across small bumps.

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or maybe it's the difference between sports rims and normal rims.

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Those china one no use. I tried before. Front end of the car still flexing when driving hard. Change to a proper one and the front end really became stiffer.

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ah...any recommendations for local install / brand for a proper strut bar for our K3?

ah...any recommendations for local install / brand for a proper strut bar for our K3?

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Not sure cuz my experience is not with K3. But so far all the cheap strut bars I got still flex. Ultraracing ones work better. Dunno they have for K3 or not.

http://www.ultraraci...roller=category

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Previously using DC for honda. do a search, cant find any for kia k3 yet. only koup.

Edited by boobic, 28 July 2015 - 01:15 PM.

the K3 eurostyle, quite responsive, you have to cater for the fact that it is not a capacitive touch screen, but is a resistive touch screen. so you have to actually depress on the screen, not only touch.

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the sound is quite good, i just needed to tweak the bass and mids up a 2-3 steps to make it pleasing to my ears.�

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Good thing about the eurostyle is the GPS search is pretty easy to use, and the system is integrated with the rear reverse camera.

the one in the K5 was very slow. Resistive or not, its animations are choppy, its response time is in excess of 0.8s and its menu layout could be better. And I couldn't find any DSP option to up treble in that one.

And the touch-capacitive buttons on the lower portion of the bezel for that unit? If I just lower my hand a little and rub the lower bezel I can end up in a totally different section of the system... If I buy that car I will probably ask them install the original KIA system!!

the one in the K5 was very slow. Resistive or not, its animations are choppy, its response time is in excess of 0.8s and its menu layout could be better. And I couldn't find any DSP option to up treble in that one.

And the touch-capacitive buttons on the lower portion of the bezel for that unit? If I just lower my hand a little and rub the lower bezel I can end up in a totally different section of the system... If I buy that car I will probably ask them install the original KIA system!!

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sounds like a different unit/model then. The K3 head unit doesn't have touch capacitive buttons.

I just bought my K3 on Sunday .. only got the Eurostyle Multimedia System, solar film and car mat. 6 guaranteed bid. Anyone managed to squeeze in more freebies?

I just bought my K3 on Sunday .. only got the Eurostyle Multimedia System, solar film and car mat. 6 guaranteed bid. Anyone managed to squeeze in more freebies?

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hey irene, you bought the sports model?�

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I'm looking at the normal model, thought about it long and hard with the Elantra, and finally made up my mind to get the K3 ($94,999 on Sunday). Went for viewing last Sunday but the female salesperson was SO aloof, was not keen to provide more information, was a huge turn off. Eventually went off to Hyundai to look see look see.�

Anyone bought the normal model? Just keen to look at what freebies you guys manage to include in just in case I meet another salesperson that cant be bothered.

I just bought my K3 on Sunday .. only got the Eurostyle Multimedia System, solar film and car mat. 6 guaranteed bid. Anyone managed to squeeze in more freebies?

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i bought last sat. only have gps, front cam and solar film. no car mat.

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hey irene, you bought the sports model?�

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I'm looking at the normal model, thought about it long and hard with the Elantra, and finally made up my mind to get the K3 ($94,999 on Sunday). Went for viewing last Sunday but the female salesperson was SO aloof, was not keen to provide more information, was a huge turn off. Eventually went off to Hyundai to look see look see.�

Anyone bought the normal model? Just keen to look at what freebies you guys manage to include in just in case I meet another salesperson that cant be bothered.

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u can go look for the sales agent tat serve me. his name is Kee�

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he is quite a friendly guy and helpful. i bought my sport version from him.�

Edited by Julietta, 28 July 2015 - 03:29 PM.

I just bought my K3 on Sunday .. only got the Eurostyle Multimedia System, solar film and car mat. 6 guaranteed bid. Anyone managed to squeeze in more freebies?

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Look for Tham , 81688,688 . 1 of the more lao jiao KIA agent around. Quote referral from Tony.. Service & Price best� [:p]

Edited by Maomao82, 28 July 2015 - 03:26 PM.

they will surely give you the default Kia Forte K3 floor mats. comes with all cars.... not really an extra freebie keke....

I just bought my K3 on Sunday .. only got the Eurostyle Multimedia System, solar film and car mat. 6 guaranteed bid. Anyone managed to squeeze in more freebies?

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how much u got it for?

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btw 1 of my greatest regret is not to squeeze them for dash cam. hais

Edited by drwatson, 28 July 2015 - 03:44 PM.

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how much u got it for?

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btw 1 of my greatest regret is not to squeeze them for dash cam. hais

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i think diff agent provide diff freebies ba. c heng suay one. if u tio those lousy agent then lan lan suck thumb liao

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how much u got it for?

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btw 1 of my greatest regret is not to squeeze them for dash cam. hais

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dashcam cheap la.... to me the most important accessory is the eurostyle keke....

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blackvue not that reliable anyway... especially if u park in open air carparks.

I just bought my K3 on Sunday .. only got the Eurostyle Multimedia System, solar film and car mat. 6 guaranteed bid. Anyone managed to squeeze in more freebies?

how much did you clinch your deal?

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hey irene, you bought the sports model?�

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I'm looking at the normal model, thought about it long and hard with the Elantra, and finally made up my mind to get the K3 ($94,999 on Sunday). Went for viewing last Sunday but the female salesperson was SO aloof, was not keen to provide more information, was a huge turn off. Eventually went off to Hyundai to look see look see.�

Anyone bought the normal model? Just keen to look at what freebies you guys manage to include in just in case I meet another salesperson that cant be bothered.

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I bought the sports model on Sunday. Got it for $102,999. Heard price went up to $107,999 for K3 SX sports.

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dashcam cheap la.... to me the most important accessory is the eurostyle keke....

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blackvue not that reliable anyway... especially if u park in open air carparks.

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not really cheap leh. good brand back and front cost like 700+++�

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i bought last sat. only have gps, front cam and solar film. no car mat.

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u can go look for the sales agent tat serve me. his name is Kee�

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he is quite a friendly guy and helpful. i bought my sport version from him.�

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I already put down payment .. can still get him to give more freebies? I will think cannot do that anymore? :(

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Posted Today, 04:07 PM

Irenelow, on 28 Jul 2015 - 2:58 PM, said:

I just bought my K3 on Sunday .. only got the Eurostyle Multimedia System, solar film and car mat. 6 guaranteed bid. Anyone managed to squeeze in more freebies?

how much did you clinch your deal?

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Posted Today, 03:38 PM

Irenelow, on 28 Jul 2015 - 2:58 PM, said:

I just bought my K3 on Sunday .. only got the Eurostyle Multimedia System, solar film and car mat. 6 guaranteed bid. Anyone managed to squeeze in more freebies?

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how much u got it for?

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btw 1 of my greatest regret is not to squeeze them for dash cam. hais

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I got it for $102,999.

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I already put down payment .. can still get him to give more freebies? I will think cannot do that anymore? :(
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Posted Today, 04:07 PM

Irenelow, on 28 Jul 2015 - 2:58 PM, said:
how much did you clinch your deal?
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Posted Today, 03:38 PM

Irenelow, on 28 Jul 2015 - 2:58 PM, said:
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I got it for $102,999.

Waaaah 2k cheaper than mine. Ur one is guarantee Coe? I gt it at 104,999 w guarantee coe. U got trade in any car?

Edited by Julietta, 28 July 2015 - 05:15 PM.

Waaaah 2k cheaper than mine. Ur one is guarantee Coe? I gt it at 104,999 w guarantee coe. U got trade in any car?

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oopss sorry. should be $103,999. $1K discount coz trade in my KIA

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are we able to get more freebies after signing? :( mine no front cam leh.

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oopss sorry. should be $103,999. $1K discount coz trade in my KIA
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are we able to get more freebies after signing? :( mine no front cam leh.

U can ask lor but since ur one already 1k cheaper than mine I doubt so leh.
But nv try nv knw la.

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oopss sorry. should be $103,999. $1K discount coz trade in my KIA

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are we able to get more freebies after signing? :( mine no front cam leh.

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can try, but abit hard now that they have your 10k deposit liao haha

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but you got a very good price! so be happy with that!

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not really cheap leh. good brand back and front cost like 700+++�

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ha....no need good brand one la.... not too happy with my blackvue DR750. think my china brand below 100 sjcam4000 is more reliable and versatile.

Edited by ricleosg, 28 July 2015 - 05:54 PM.

U all pump wat petrol?? 1 tank can travel hw many km?

1 tank about 600km. i pump 95�

considering between Mazda 3 and K3 as well, does K3 comes with 3 free servicings package? warranty is 3 years 100km or 5 years unlimited?

3 year free servicing, every 10k service, unlimited mileage 5 year warranty, and additional 5 years on top engine warranty

3 year free servicing, every 10k service, unlimited mileage 5 year warranty, and additional 5 years on top engine warranty

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i see, thanks! was looking at the sgcarmart pricelist. 102k for SX model. c&c profit margin not even 6k yet got free servicing and 5 years warranty. agree it is a better deal than mazda 3.

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i see, thanks! was looking at the sgcarmart pricelist. 102k for SX model. c&c profit margin not even 6k yet got free servicing and 5 years warranty. agree it is a better deal than mazda 3.

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u go test drive it. then u will be more convince y we bought k3.

1 tank about 600km. i pump 95�

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oooo 1 full tank cost around how much ah?

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u go test drive it. then u will be more convince y we bought k3.

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oooo 1 full tank cost around how much ah?

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i had test drive both the k3 and mazda 3 many months back this year before CNY. price was 115k for k3 and 122k for mazda 3 if I didn't remember wrongly. 7k difference.�

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specs wise about the same, am particularly impressed that both cars have electric seats. k3 even have memory seat. liked the mazda 3 back then because it got the factory fitted�infotainment system while the k3 don't have a screen.�

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happened to read this thread now and realised can request for�Eurostyle Multimedia System so am now seriously considering.�

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CNY that time was just doing some field report as current 2005 kia due for scrapping at the end of the year.�

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based on my test drive the other time,�

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kia k3 steering feel is very good. cannot compare to the heavier steering of the contis, but in my opinion, beats mazda 3 hands down. mazda 3 steering feels too light to me. both k3 and mazda 3 have decent acceleration, k3 is quieter than mazda 3. i also liked the sports rims of the k3.�

kia k3 steering feel is very good. cannot compare to the heavier steering of the contis, but in my opinion, beats mazda 3 hands down. mazda 3 steering feels too light to me. both k3 and mazda 3 have decent acceleration, k3 is quieter than mazda 3. i also liked the sports rims of the k3.�

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I find your comment here very interesting. The Mazda3 has long been lauded as the class leader for handling and steering feel/feedback. Never expected to someone call it "too light", especially compared to a korean car.

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What FlexSteer weight did you use?

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I find your comment here very interesting. The Mazda3 has long been lauded as the class leader for handling and steering feel/feedback. Never expected to someone call it "too light", especially compared to a korean car.

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What FlexSteer weight did you use?

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didn't change any of the setting, not sure which flexsteer weight it was at. test drive speed was normal road condition, below 60km/hr. didn't go expressway. personally, i prefer heavier steering feel and between k3 and mazda 3, i like k3 steering and handling more. just my opinions of course!

considering between Mazda 3 and K3 as well, does K3 comes with 3 free servicings package? warranty is 3 years 100km or 5 years unlimited?

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After testing both K3 and Mazda 3, I think the K3 is better overall. Couldn't find any part of the car where I prefer the Mazda over the Kia.

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I find your comment here very interesting. The Mazda3 has long been lauded as the class leader for handling and steering feel/feedback. Never expected to someone call it "too light", especially compared to a korean car.

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What FlexSteer weight did you use?

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its true leh i find de m3 steering wheel a bit light compare to my old suzuki swift.

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or mayb its becos nowadays they got new technology hence de steering wheel is lighter compare to older cars.�

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when i tried out the k3 the steering was light oso then the sales man say can adjust the weight of the steering jus by pressing the button.

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After testing both K3 and Mazda 3, I think the K3 is better overall. Couldn't find any part of the car where I prefer the Mazda over the Kia.

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I have test drive both K3 and Mazda 3.

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K3 definitely better than Mazda 3 in many ways.

Going down to Alexandra tml to test drive the SX.....

But came across this in the review section

http://www.sgcarmart...p?CarCode=11322

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I'm the 1st batch of K3 drivers and figured I'll give an update since sgcarmart doesn't allow to update prev posts. In general, the car is good and many of what the posters have said here are valid. So I'll just give the negative parts of the car.

1. The service at C&C is the worst in the industry. They upsell you stuff and even if you take the service package, be prepared to keep paying for all sorts of crap. Eg. Air filters costs 2-3x more than 3rd party workshops. Once they returned my car with brown paint on my seat. The 2nd time i sent my car in, my aircon screwed up and has always had an uneven flow problems... And they have never been able to fix it after that. They just want to frustrate you to the point that you live with the issues. They take about 3-6 weeks to import parts from Korea. Eg. My window motor spoilt and aircon problems (still not fixed). They tell you come back again and you waste another half day.

2. They key issue is the the C&C group is owned by Jardine Group, which is indonesian and they are facing massive problems back home. So they will rip us off to subsidise their problems back home.

3. Fuel economy. When i first the got the car, i could get 7.9l/100km very easily. I drive the same route every day and after 2 years, I have to be really really light footed to get 8.4liters/100km. If i drive like previously, i would probably get 9/100km... Almost like the current new SUVs.
What I like
Most of what the other many reviewers have posted.
What I do not like
1. Cycle and carriage service. It is VERY BAD. This is very real because you must stick with them for 5 years... and they basically rip you off for 5 years.

2. relatively fast decline in fuel economy even though i service regularly."

Anyone has any views of this or has taken this into consideration?

Existing K3 owners, will really appreciate your feedback and experiences during servicing.... thanks a lot.

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hey irene, you bought the sports model?�

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I'm looking at the normal model, thought about it long and hard with the Elantra, and finally made up my mind to get the K3 ($94,999 on Sunday). Went for viewing last Sunday but the female salesperson was SO aloof, was not keen to provide more information, was a huge turn off. Eventually went off to Hyundai to look see look see.�

Anyone bought the normal model? Just keen to look at what freebies you guys manage to include in just in case I meet another salesperson that cant be bothered.

When you encounter such SE, look for another. Some of us can recommend based on our experience.�

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When buying a $100k+ car, do not rush into things. Consult family and friends. Check out the forums

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The K3 is very value for money and i still like it (not the tyres which is somewhat noisy).

Do try the J cars as well.�

Going down to Alexandra tml to test drive the SX.....

But came across this in the review section

http://www.sgcarmart...p?CarCode=11322

"Review
I'm the 1st batch of K3 drivers and figured I'll give an update since sgcarmart doesn't allow to update prev posts. In general, the car is good and many of what the posters have said here are valid. So I'll just give the negative parts of the car.

1. The service at C&C is the worst in the industry. They upsell you stuff and even if you take the service package, be prepared to keep paying for all sorts of crap. Eg. Air filters costs 2-3x more than 3rd party workshops. Once they returned my car with brown paint on my seat. The 2nd time i sent my car in, my aircon screwed up and has always had an uneven flow problems... And they have never been able to fix it after that. They just want to frustrate you to the point that you live with the issues. They take about 3-6 weeks to import parts from Korea. Eg. My window motor spoilt and aircon problems (still not fixed). They tell you come back again and you waste another half day.

2. They key issue is the the C&C group is owned by Jardine Group, which is indonesian and they are facing massive problems back home. So they will rip us off to subsidise their problems back home.

3. Fuel economy. When i first the got the car, i could get 7.9l/100km very easily. I drive the same route every day and after 2 years, I have to be really really light footed to get 8.4liters/100km. If i drive like previously, i would probably get 9/100km... Almost like the current new SUVs.
What I like
Most of what the other many reviewers have posted.
What I do not like
1. Cycle and carriage service. It is VERY BAD. This is very real because you must stick with them for 5 years... and they basically rip you off for 5 years.

2. relatively fast decline in fuel economy even though i service regularly."

Anyone has any views of this or has taken this into consideration?

Existing K3 owners, will really appreciate your feedback and experiences during servicing.... thanks a lot.

Read the earlier thread about the K3. I posted a post detailing my views. Too lazy to refer. I will give some of my views here instead:

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Points 1 and 2 are personal views. I cannot comment. I had no problems with my first Forte (4+ years. I did not find the servicing charges expensive)

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Point 3 - you should be able to get 12km/l on average

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1. Very bad service? Did not feel it.

2. Relatively fast decline of fuel economy - did not feel it in my first Forte

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Suggest you spend a weekend morning hanging around the rear where customers wait for their cars (K3 included). You can ask them as much as you can about their car.�

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i had test drive both the k3 and mazda 3 many months back this year before CNY. price was 115k for k3 and 122k for mazda 3 if I didn't remember wrongly. 7k difference.�

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specs wise about the same, am particularly impressed that both cars have electric seats. k3 even have memory seat. liked the mazda 3 back then because it got the factory fitted�infotainment system while the k3 don't have a screen.�

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happened to read this thread now and realised can request for�Eurostyle Multimedia System so am now seriously considering.�

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CNY that time was just doing some field report as current 2005 kia due for scrapping at the end of the year.�

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based on my test drive the other time,�

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kia k3 steering feel is very good. cannot compare to the heavier steering of the contis, but in my opinion, beats mazda 3 hands down. mazda 3 steering feels too light to me. both k3 and mazda 3 have decent acceleration, k3 is quieter than mazda 3. i also liked the sports rims of the k3.�

K3 has three steering feel. Pick one.�

Yes, the K3 is quieter

Rims? I dont have any impression of the MZ3 rims. Yes, the K3 rims look nice.

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u go test drive it. then u will be more convince y we bought k3.

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oooo 1 full tank cost around how much ah?

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Based on 40litre, $2.15 for Ess0 95, after basic discount = $73 per pump

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Going down to Alexandra tml to test drive the SX.....

But came across this in the review section

http://www.sgcarmart...p?CarCode=11322

"Review
I'm the 1st batch of K3 drivers and figured I'll give an update since sgcarmart doesn't allow to update prev posts. In general, the car is good and many of what the posters have said here are valid. So I'll just give the negative parts of the car.

1. The service at C&C is the worst in the industry. They upsell you stuff and even if you take the service package, be prepared to keep paying for all sorts of crap. Eg. Air filters costs 2-3x more than 3rd party workshops. Once they returned my car with brown paint on my seat. The 2nd time i sent my car in, my aircon screwed up and has always had an uneven flow problems... And they have never been able to fix it after that. They just want to frustrate you to the point that you live with the issues. They take about 3-6 weeks to import parts from Korea. Eg. My window motor spoilt and aircon problems (still not fixed). They tell you come back again and you waste another half day.

2. They key issue is the the C&C group is owned by Jardine Group, which is indonesian and they are facing massive problems back home. So they will rip us off to subsidise their problems back home.

3. Fuel economy. When i first the got the car, i could get 7.9l/100km very easily. I drive the same route every day and after 2 years, I have to be really really light footed to get 8.4liters/100km. If i drive like previously, i would probably get 9/100km... Almost like the current new SUVs.
What I like
Most of what the other many reviewers have posted.
What I do not like
1. Cycle and carriage service. It is VERY BAD. This is very real because you must stick with them for 5 years... and they basically rip you off for 5 years.

2. relatively fast decline in fuel economy even though i service regularly."

Anyone has any views of this or has taken this into consideration?

Existing K3 owners, will really appreciate your feedback and experiences during servicing.... thanks a lot.

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1) & 2). No comments. 1st servicing 1k mileage, still decent. requested for car to be ready by 1pm, they called me at 12pm inform car was ready. Car return in good condition, other than the free washing wasn't up to my expectation (Maybe coz car already gim gim ceramic coated, the fingerprints make it an eye-sore for me)

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3) Fuel economy I think every car also will drop with age/mileage, slight drop in fc/ horsepower drop. Even my old low mileage�Honda also suffer the same.�� Solution? Jetronic fuel system clearning $100 from major workshop

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i had test drive both the k3 and mazda 3 many months back this year before CNY. price was 115k for k3 and 122k for mazda 3 if I didn't remember wrongly. 7k difference.�

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specs wise about the same, am particularly impressed that both cars have electric seats. k3 even have memory seat. liked the mazda 3 back then because it got the factory fitted�infotainment system while the k3 don't have a screen.�

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happened to read this thread now and realised can request for�Eurostyle Multimedia System so am now seriously considering.�

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CNY that time was just doing some field report as current 2005 kia due for scrapping at the end of the year.�

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based on my test drive the other time,�

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kia k3 steering feel is very good. cannot compare to the heavier steering of the contis, but in my opinion, beats mazda 3 hands down. mazda 3 steering feels too light to me. both k3 and mazda 3 have decent acceleration, k3 is quieter than mazda 3. i also liked the sports rims of the k3.�

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Most bros here get the Eurostyle FOC.. like what I always advice pple, if u're firm to commit on the dotted line, offer the SE the most ridiculous package you'll sign for. Definitely u'll walk out of the showroom with a Big Wide smile, juz like the day I sign for my K3 [laugh]

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Long time ago, I drive a non-power steering Toyota, the K3 steering feels very light to me.. In fact, I set it at Sports mode all the time.

M3 engine I feel is a bit grunty, and slightly high pitch. K3 engine groaning sound seems to grow on me, as I drive each day.. Sounds bassy & sporty to me.. Does any bros/sis feels that too? :wub:

Thanks all for the feedback about the servicing at C&C.....

Read the earlier thread about the K3. I posted a post detailing my views. Too lazy to refer. I will give some of my views here instead:
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Points 1 and 2 are personal views. I cannot comment. I had no problems with my first Forte (4+ years. I did not find the servicing charges expensive)
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Point 3 - you should be able to get 12km/l on average
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1. Very bad service? Did not feel it.
2. Relatively fast decline of fuel economy - did not feel it in my first Forte
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Suggest you spend a weekend morning hanging around the rear where customers wait for their cars (K3 included). You can ask them as much as you can about their car.�

K3 has three steering feel. Pick one.�
Yes, the K3 is quieter
Rims? I dont have any impression of the MZ3 rims. Yes, the K3 rims look nice.

The car review is based on K3. But your review is base on your 4 years + old Forte. Don't you think your comparision is out of point here? From most review I see, most k3 owners did feedback on poor FC. Hope KIA will improve this in its next variant.

What I dislike about servicing in C&C is that you can't get to see your own car during the servicing process. Whatever they say, you have to either believe them for parts replacement or insist not to change. If they skip some process, you can't see it too.

And yes, they cost so much more than 3rd party workshops which do similar things and also use original parts.

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Look for Tham , 81688,688 . 1 of the more lao jiao KIA agent around. Quote referral from Tony.. Service & Price best�

So that you have referral fee from Tony? Why must quote your name... Keke...

Seems like Kee is the one highly recommended instead of Tony Will pass the name to my friends.

Edited by Ivan_06, 29 July 2015 - 03:45 AM.

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Just sharing since Fc of k3 is not tat good.
Might be old news but no harm sharing.
Switch from Esso to Spc.

Spc card + posb everyday card = 20.1% instant deduct.

Other better fuel lobangs. Pls share. :)

Edited by boobic, 29 July 2015 - 06:56 AM.

Just sharing since Fc of k3 is not tat good.
Might be old news but no harm sharing.
Switch from Esso to Spc.

Spc card + posb everyday card = 20.1% instant deduct.

Other better fuel lobangs. Pls share. :)

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I would say the K3 FC is consider average and decent for the price you're paying and also if you have driven mit Lancer or Nissan sunny, you'll agree with me. ;)

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I'm also considering getting either K3 or Elentra, so which one is better?

The car review is based on K3. But your review is base on your 4 years + old Forte. Don't you think your comparision is out of point here? From most review I see, most k3 owners did feedback on poor FC. Hope KIA will improve this in its next variant.

What I dislike about servicing in C&C is that you can't get to see your own car during the servicing process. Whatever they say, you have to either believe them for parts replacement or insist not to change. If they skip some process, you can't see it too.

And yes, they cost so much more than 3rd party workshops which do similar things and also use original parts.

I am driving a K3 now, for more than 1/2 a year.

The fuel economy for me is about 12.5km/l. (80%hw)

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The K engines are not that fantastic, hence resulting in average fuel economy. I had a Sunny (2001) that returned like 10-11km/l. That was like ages. Now the Sylphy should return better (I cannot verify)

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For servicing, it is good to be able to make some decisions, like you say. It is always fine not to repair at C&C even though they the problem highlight to us. I did not change my tires there despite their recommendation (outside tire shop even told me to keep driving for another 6 months since the wear was not much) It is always good to go for second opinion when it comes to repairs/replacement advice.�

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Outside ws tend to be cheaper - as attested by so many people. (I had serviced my cars outside before.)

For normal servicing, like oil change, it is fine to leave the outside ws do it. But for repairs, we really need to find a trustworthy and reliable ws that we can trust.

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For me, I am prepared to pay more for servicing as C&C is convenient for my servicing needs.

When you encounter such SE, look for another. Some of us can recommend based on our experience.�

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When buying a $100k+ car, do not rush into things. Consult family and friends. Check out the forums

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The K3 is very value for money and i still like it (not the tyres which is somewhat noisy).

Do try the J cars as well.�

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Yep, last weekend went to a few showrooms, Honda, Hyundai, Mazda, Toyota. I'm currently driving a Toyota and liked it, very few issues at all but the price difference seems too high. So ended up with Elantra and K3. I'll probably go down to the showroom this weekend again and look for Tham or Kee as shared by another forum poster.�

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Now can't seem to decide whether to get the Sports or normal version, weighing if the price difference is worth it for my family.�

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Saw that most people got the Eurostyle FOC, if i get the normal model, also can get Eurostyle?�

Edited by PeiJiaLing, 29 July 2015 - 10:03 AM.

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I find your comment here very interesting. The Mazda3 has long been lauded as the class leader for handling and steering feel/feedback. Never expected to someone call it "too light", especially compared to a korean car.

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What FlexSteer weight did you use?

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ehhh my family test drive Mazda 3 also complain of the light steering...maybe my HB is used to his k3 sports mode steering...they also commented something on the brake not "biting" not sure if anyone felt the same.

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This is honest and neutral feedback hor..although we are driving k3 now. But we are also looking for another car with FC in mind so most likely wont get another K3...maybe will need to test drive Mazda 3 again. Or is there any other car with good FC at this range? Tried accent feels not bad but the car really a bit too small for our liking and for the price not very attractive...only few ks different we can a bigger car...

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I bought the sports model on Sunday. Got it for $102,999. Heard price went up to $107,999 for K3 SX sports.

really? Sgcarmart list price still 102k

http://www.sgcarmart...p?CarCode=11322

Going down to Alexandra tml to test drive the SX.....

But came across this in the review section

http://www.sgcarmart...p?CarCode=11322

"Review
I'm the 1st batch of K3 drivers and figured I'll give an update since sgcarmart doesn't allow to update prev posts. In general, the car is good and many of what the posters have said here are valid. So I'll just give the negative parts of the car.

1. The service at C&C is the worst in the industry. They upsell you stuff and even if you take the service package, be prepared to keep paying for all sorts of crap. Eg. Air filters costs 2-3x more than 3rd party workshops. Once they returned my car with brown paint on my seat. The 2nd time i sent my car in, my aircon screwed up and has always had an uneven flow problems... And they have never been able to fix it after that. They just want to frustrate you to the point that you live with the issues. They take about 3-6 weeks to import parts from Korea. Eg. My window motor spoilt and aircon problems (still not fixed). They tell you come back again and you waste another half day.

2. They key issue is the the C&C group is owned by Jardine Group, which is indonesian and they are facing massive problems back home. So they will rip us off to subsidise their problems back home.

3. Fuel economy. When i first the got the car, i could get 7.9l/100km very easily. I drive the same route every day and after 2 years, I have to be really really light footed to get 8.4liters/100km. If i drive like previously, i would probably get 9/100km... Almost like the current new SUVs.
What I like
Most of what the other many reviewers have posted.
What I do not like
1. Cycle and carriage service. It is VERY BAD. This is very real because you must stick with them for 5 years... and they basically rip you off for 5 years.

2. relatively fast decline in fuel economy even though i service regularly."

Anyone has any views of this or has taken this into consideration?

Existing K3 owners, will really appreciate your feedback and experiences during servicing.... thanks a lot.

thanks for you info,

OMG! Never realized K3 so bad,�

I almost clinched my deal last Saturday, like that have to think twice between K3 and Mz3�

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Yep, last weekend went to a few showrooms, Honda, Hyundai, Mazda, Toyota. I'm currently driving a Toyota and liked it, very few issues at all but the price difference seems too high. So ended up with Elantra and K3. I'll probably go down to the showroom this weekend again and look for Tham or Kee as shared by another forum poster.�

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Now can't seem to decide whether to get the Sports or normal version, weighing if the price difference is worth it for my family.�

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Saw that most people got the Eurostyle FOC, if i get the normal model, also can get Eurostyle?�

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like tat u need to ask the sales person liao. let them convince u to hoot normal or sport hahaha. i saw de normal version at my hse mcp w the eurostyle gps mayb u can try

Going down to Alexandra tml to test drive the SX.....

But came across this in the review section

http://www.sgcarmart...p?CarCode=11322

"Review
I'm the 1st batch of K3 drivers and figured I'll give an update since sgcarmart doesn't allow to update prev posts. In general, the car is good and many of what the posters have said here are valid. So I'll just give the negative parts of the car.

1. The service at C&C is the worst in the industry. They upsell you stuff and even if you take the service package, be prepared to keep paying for all sorts of crap. Eg. Air filters costs 2-3x more than 3rd party workshops. Once they returned my car with brown paint on my seat. The 2nd time i sent my car in, my aircon screwed up and has always had an uneven flow problems... And they have never been able to fix it after that. They just want to frustrate you to the point that you live with the issues. They take about 3-6 weeks to import parts from Korea. Eg. My window motor spoilt and aircon problems (still not fixed). They tell you come back again and you waste another half day.

2. They key issue is the the C&C group is owned by Jardine Group, which is indonesian and they are facing massive problems back home. So they will rip us off to subsidise their problems back home.

3. Fuel economy. When i first the got the car, i could get 7.9l/100km very easily. I drive the same route every day and after 2 years, I have to be really really light footed to get 8.4liters/100km. If i drive like previously, i would probably get 9/100km... Almost like the current new SUVs.
What I like
Most of what the other many reviewers have posted.
What I do not like
1. Cycle and carriage service. It is VERY BAD. This is very real because you must stick with them for 5 years... and they basically rip you off for 5 years.

2. relatively fast decline in fuel economy even though i service regularly."

Anyone has any views of this or has taken this into consideration?

Existing K3 owners, will really appreciate your feedback and experiences during servicing.... thanks a lot.

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I have said it earlier , the C&C service charges for Kia are above other Japanese makes. Very gimmicky as well. Every 10k km servicing, they try to get you to include the engine refresh package costing $60+ which is really unnecessary and just an avenue to make money. The cost of spark plugs are not even included in the servicing package price and is included as an extra cost. They are using ordinary spark plugs but claim they only need to be replaced every 40k km. Their 40k km servicing packages costs around $700 for the Sportage which will cost you around $500+ at Tan Chong for eg.

It is very clear they are trying hard (maybe harder than others) in recovering the cost of the additional warranty of 2 years.

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ehhh my family test drive Mazda 3 also complain of the light steering...maybe my HB is used to his k3 sports mode steering...they also commented something on the brake not "biting" not sure if anyone felt the same.

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This is honest and neutral feedback hor..although we are driving k3 now. But we are also looking for another car with FC in mind so most likely wont get another K3...maybe will need to test drive Mazda 3 again. Or is there any other car with good FC at this range? Tried accent feels not bad but the car really a bit too small for our liking and for the price not very attractive...only few ks different we can a bigger car...

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for me i felt that the Mazda 3 steering while it was light, it felt more direct and gave more feedback on the road, which makes me feel the mazda handles better. but however features and comfort wise the K3 won out. Agree the brakes on the K3 felt better too, more effective compared to the mazda 3 and toyota vios i test drove.

thanks for you info,

OMG! Never realized K3 so bad,�

I almost clinched my deal last Saturday, like that have to think twice between K3 and Mz3�

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no la its not bad.... its just the fuel economy is not the best in class compared to its peers. everything else is actually good and features/comfort wise, class leading.

really? Sgcarmart list price still 102k

http://www.sgcarmart...p?CarCode=11322

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yeah .. e sales guy showed me the new list. They might not have updated it yet? Not sure

So that you have referral fee from Tony? Why must quote your name... Keke...

Seems like Kee is the one highly recommended instead of Tony Will pass the name to my friends.

Bro, I'm juz sharing coz I've been served by a few SE.. and the level of customer service offered by Tham is real top notch.. Every time I go down C&C showroom is at least 1.5hrs, to entertain me.. for more it's impromptu!

Not pushy, and willing to serve..even after I collected my car, and assisting in follow-up.

Btw some other nasty KIA SE try to carrot chop me $10k off my car trade-in thinking I was a newbie.

BTW I'm Tony.. lol..Tham is the SE LengKee. I'm quite sure the deal I got for is 1 of the Best here (based on the COE price at that time), haven seen anybody else gt a better offer den me here.
Good price + Good service. . What more to ask for? =D

Edited by Maomao82, 29 July 2015 - 11:34 AM.

Bro, I'm juz sharing coz I've been served by a few SE.. and the level of customer service offered by Tham is real top notch.. Every time I go down C&C showroom is at least 1.5hrs, to entertain me.. for more it's impromptu!

Not pushy, and willing to serve..even after I collected my car, and assisting in follow-up.

Btw some other nasty KIA SE try to carrot chop me $10k off my car trade-in thinking I was a newbie.

BTW I'm Tony.. lol..Tham is the SE LengKee. I'm quite sure the deal I got for is 1 of the Best here (based on the COE price at that time), haven seen anybody else gt a better offer den me here.
Good price + Good service. . What more to ask for? =D

If I'm u who has been served by a few agent in kia I wun even buy from them Liao. Directly go toyota or Mazda liao. To me service is v impt.

Normally trade in car the price is ard de same if u go individually car shop n ask. I went to toyota/Suzuki/kia/Mazda all give ard the same trade in price.

I doubt they will chop u off 10k different in car trade in Ba. Too much difference

Edited by Julietta, 29 July 2015 - 01:09 PM.

If I'm u who has been served by a few agent in kia I wun even buy from them Liao. Directly go toyota or Mazda liao. To me service is v impt.

Normally trade in car the price is ard de same if u go individually car shop n ask. I went to toyota/Suzuki/kia/Mazda all give ard the same trade in price.

I doubt they will chop u off 10k different in car trade in Ba. Too much difference

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Ya. To some people service is very important. Among all the cars I test drove, BMW sales people had the best service. But service not important to me. Lol. I just go in test drive and decide on which car I like rather than the service.�

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Ya. To some people service is very important. Among all the cars I test drove, BMW sales people had the best service. But service not important to me. Lol. I just go in test drive and decide on which car I like rather than the service.�

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in the end, the quality of the product, in this case the car is the most important factor.

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i would not buy from a super good salesman with super service if it was a poor/unreliable/lousy car. you will live and drive the car for 10 years, no point buying a car just because the salesman is good if you didnt like the car in the first place :)

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yeah .. e sales guy showed me the new list. They might not have updated it yet? Not sure

Yeah, which is really bad in this age of online info...the PIs update their prices nearly everyday...but a big AD like KIA/ CNC updates only on Saturday s or sometimes when COE is out...bad for biz...

ehhh my family test drive Mazda 3 also complain of the light steering...maybe my HB is used to his k3 sports mode steering...they also commented something on the brake not "biting" not sure if anyone felt the same.

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This is honest and neutral feedback hor..although we are driving k3 now. But we are also looking for another car with FC in mind so most likely wont get another K3...maybe will need to test drive Mazda 3 again. Or is there any other car with good FC at this range? Tried accent feels not bad but the car really a bit too small for our liking and for the price not very attractive...only few ks different we can a bigger car...

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If serious fuel economy is a priority, you can try the Peugeot 308. The SW is $117k now, the hatch should be less than $115k. Reasonably well equipped but doesn't have the electric seats of the K3. Problem of course is whether you trust French electronics, but the engine is good and can get up to 19.2km/l. Expect normal drivers probably get 14 km/l, though.

If I'm u who has been served by a few agent in kia I wun even buy from them Liao. Directly go toyota or Mazda liao. To me service is v impt.

Normally trade in car the price is ard de same if u go individually car shop n ask. I went to toyota/Suzuki/kia/Mazda all give ard the same trade in price.

I doubt they will chop u off 10k different in car trade in Ba. Too much difference

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yea, but i think most important still must see the quality of the car ba. the hyundai SE was very very very good, he was forthcoming with information and said will give in freebies and what not. the kia female SE was terrible, but I'm not comfortable to make the choice just based on the 2 SE, will head down to KIA again to decide.�

Thanks 7hm, but the price too high leh. we are looking at basic version price range from 90-100k.� :ph34r: of cause the cheaper the better but we know la where got such good deal..cheap with good FC lol...nvm on other features my family only want something basic with good FC but the car size must be around mazda3 / k3 / elentra size... cannot be like accent too small...and no hatchback lol...seems like not much choice liao only got this 3 at this range unless i am missing something..

Thanks 7hm, but the price too high leh. we are looking at basic version price range from 90-100k.� of cause the cheaper the better but we know la where got such good deal..cheap with good FC lol...nvm on other features my family only want something basic with good FC but the car size must be around mazda3 / k3 / elentra size... cannot be like accent too small...and no hatchback lol...seems like not much choice liao only got this 3 at this range unless i am missing something..

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If FC is very important to you, go for mazda 3, family members seating behind have to sacrifice in terms of comfort, and you loose the bells and whistles that come even on default for the EX K3 model.

ricleosg...what bells and whistles huh?�

ricleosg...what bells and whistles huh?�

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Most obvious are electric seats with driver memory & cooled ventilation, welcome lighting, supervision cluster and front parking sensors.

Unless you are comparing a Forte EX rather than a SX Sport.

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If you are comparing standard Mz3 vs Forte EX, I think the Mazda3 actually wins in value.

Personally from my point of views. not to offend any other makes or car owners in here.�

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Comparison is never ending. I have a friend who told me when he closes his Honda door, the "thup" sound is nicer. WTF, how many times do we actually go and pay attention to the sound of the door close? lol.

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I have friend who told me why buy a kimchi car? his mazda 3/ Nissan�is Make In Japan, so what? Mine is made in Korea, very disgrace meh? my washing machine and Tv, dvd player , mobile phone�is kimchi brand.

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I drove a Mazda before, an Astina model. I drove�4 Honda's before, the eg6, ek4, and the es5 and lastly Jazz( cos married, got kids, cannot mod and play liao,lol ).�and yes, No doubt, I�still prefer choosing back a�Honda, durable and sounds good and powerful.

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Wanted to buy back the Honda Jazz, and looking at that price from Kah motor for a 1300cc , make me look at other models, and say bye bye to them.

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On why I choose Kia K3 over Mazda/Nissan/Toyota/Honda,�

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Size, cc , boot space, all +/- around same, no need to be too exact until boot can store how many litres. :)

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- Kia K3�-�Trendy design,�features that can be found on conti cars. new feel for a different brand, I sit in it, I feel good.

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- Nissan slyphy - not to offend, but I think its more suitable for my parents. in terms of looks. so no go for me.

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- Honda Civic - not much diff from e previous batch of FD's. and price. very "tokong price" although its a 1800cc�, not much features in it.so no go for me.

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- Mazda 3 - Tested, its good and considered, but somehow don't have to "feel" to proceed with it. so no go for me.

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As for parts for wear and tear, I shall not comment, as all this is depends on user too.

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Please don't flame me. :)

Edited by boobic, 29 July 2015 - 03:22 PM.

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Most obvious are electric seats with driver memory & cooled ventilation, welcome lighting, supervision cluster and front parking sensors.

Unless you are comparing a Forte EX rather than a SX Sport.

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If you are comparing standard Mz3 vs Forte EX, I think the Mazda3 actually wins in value.

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actually quite true. i have always been comparing the K3 SX to the Mazda Deluxe, just took a quick look at the SG carmart specs, and the mazda 3 standard is quite value for money. what's the price diff between the EX and standard now? Actually i didn't know the mazda standard also comes with HID and sunroof.

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the other plus on the K3 not mentioned by 7hm is the rear aircon vent, dual zone climate control, and better legroom for rear seats and boot space. base model m3 has quite good value i agree

Edited by ricleosg, 29 July 2015 - 03:25 PM.

If I'm u who has been served by a few agent in kia I wun even buy from them Liao. Directly go toyota or Mazda liao. To me service is v impt.

Normally trade in car the price is ard de same if u go individually car shop n ask. I went to toyota/Suzuki/kia/Mazda all give ard the same trade in price.

I doubt they will chop u off 10k different in car trade in Ba. Too much difference

Julietta, the reason why I went 3 SE is because the of the 1st carrot chopping incident. His service was very good, sweet talk etc, but I found him too sweet to be true.. so 2nd SE was to check if any price diff after 1st round testing which is 1week ago..coz not confirm on K3. 3rd SE was recommended by my Brother In Law, whom he had bought 2 KIA from him.�

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Dont ask me why the 1st SE pulled that stupid trick.. Somemore I told him I had done my research (~40-45kbefore hand but he "reassured" me that was the price indeed quoted by the 2nd hand dealer.. but luckily I did not take his words.

Julietta, the reason why I went 3 SE is because the of the 1st carrot chopping incident. His service was very good, sweet talk etc, but I found him too sweet to be true.. so 2nd SE was to check if any price diff after 1st round testing which is 1week ago..coz not confirm on K3. 3rd SE was recommended by my Brother In Law, whom he had bought 2 KIA from him.�
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Dont ask me why the 1st SE pulled that stupid trick.. Somemore I told him I had done my research (~40-45kbefore hand but he "reassured" me that was the price indeed quoted by the 2nd hand dealer.. but luckily I did not take his words.

Ur determination in getting kia impress me haha. If me I already go buy other brand liao

Ur research for trade in car value get from whr?

Ur determination in getting kia impress me haha. If me I already go buy other brand liao

Ur research for trade in car value get from whr?

No lah..actuali was waitin for previous to repair, then backside itchy go test drive. Ended up 2weeks after rmajor car repair, hoot new car liao.. The new owner sure happy... Anyway the 1st 2SE I'm only interested in getting the butt feel, and rough pricing. �Even Mazda I also met 2 SE..

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Trade in price by various Car brands SE, and a few i called up BIL's lobang 2nd hand car shop to quote

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$1000 thing do need think juz buy.. I but 2more zero behind need to do a bit more homework =D

Edited by Maomao82, 29 July 2015 - 04:48 PM.

actually quite true. i have always been comparing the K3 SX to the Mazda Deluxe, just took a quick look at the SG carmart specs, and the mazda 3 standard is quite value for money. what's the price diff between the EX and standard now? Actually i didn't know the mazda standard also comes with HID and sunroof.

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the other plus on the K3 not mentioned by 7hm is the rear aircon vent, dual zone climate control, and better legroom for rear seats and boot space. base model m3 has quite good value i agree

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I believe MZ3 standard does not have the AFLS bi-xenons, it uses halogen headlights. Last I checked, no sunroof.

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I think the Forte EX doesn't have dual-zone aircon or rear vents... it doesn't have ionized dual-zone aircon, but it does have the rear vents.

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For all's reference: http://www.mazda.com.../04/MAZDA-3.pdf

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Mazda 3 standard:

only has 2 airbags (Deluxe has 4, Forte EX has only 2, SX has a 6-airbag system)
no rear view camera
does not have complete keyless access
does not have powered drivers seat
does not have the Active Driving Display (HUD)
Does not have foglamps, rear combination LED headlamps or angling bi-xenon headlamps with AFLS
Does not have MZDConnect with the Commander Control and touchscreen, or navigation
has only two rear sensors, down from four on the Deluxe (K3 has four front, four rear on SX, with only 2 rear on EX)
no automatic rain wipers

Not sure if there are other small differences.

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If all would like I can post a direct head-to-head comparison of both cars.

The plus point is K3 has driver side ventilated seats, this feature is very good for Singapore weather.

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Nowadays driving in the afternoon is so hot, to have a seat to cool the butt is shioks... Im waiting for COE to "adjust" before deciding haha

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Ya. To some people service is very important. Among all the cars I test drove, BMW sales people had the best service. But service not important to me. Lol. I just go in test drive and decide on which car I like rather than the service.�

to me, SE is not important. My last SE has an 'atas' attitude. Since i managed to trade in my car at a good price, i could not be too bothered with that SE's attitude

wah 101 pages liao!

Yeah, which is really bad in this age of online info...the PIs update their prices nearly everyday...but a big AD like KIA/ CNC updates only on Saturday s or sometimes when COE is out...bad for biz...

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yeah .. most stuff are online now. Yet if you want the latest price from KIA, u gotta call them� [laugh]

The ventilated driver seat feature is good for cooling the seat if you parked your car in the open on a sunny day. Will the leather crack easier since they are supposed to cool down the seat in like 10s? sudden temp change?�

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Just asking .. coz my colleague asked me this qns when I told them about this feature� [laugh]

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I believe MZ3 standard does not have the AFLS bi-xenons, it uses halogen headlights. Last I checked, no sunroof.

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I think the Forte EX doesn't have dual-zone aircon or rear vents... it doesn't have ionized dual-zone aircon, but it does have the rear vents.

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For all's reference: http://www.mazda.com.../04/MAZDA-3.pdf

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Mazda 3 standard:

only has 2 airbags (Deluxe has 4, Forte EX has only 2, SX has a 6-airbag system)

no rear view camera

does not have complete keyless access

does not have powered drivers seat

does not have the Active Driving Display (HUD)

Does not have foglamps, rear combination LED headlamps or angling bi-xenon headlamps with AFLS

Does not have MZDConnect with the Commander Control and touchscreen, or navigation

has only two rear sensors, down from four on the Deluxe (K3 has four front, four rear on SX, with only 2 rear on EX)

no automatic rain wipers

Not sure if there are other small differences.

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If all would like I can post a direct head-to-head comparison of both cars.

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Some tidbit of info. SX proximity sensors (that's the proper name LOL) came factory fitted and it incorporate into the CANBUS electrical system. EX ones are locally fitted using some brandless stuff and its a standalone setup. Look carefully, the sensors on the SX Sports looks different from the EX.

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Reliability and accuracy wise, well I don't need to say much which is a better bet right? :)

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Why no one mention the Mazda 3, top spec or not, is really small and cramped inside? For a tall guy like me 1.85m, I feel claustrophobic inside the Mazda 3. Rear seats are almost out of the qns for me for I can't even sit up straight. I am forced to slide down further into the seat itself to try to clear the tight headroom but Mazda 3 legroom is tight too. In the end, I don't know what else I can do... except exit the showroom car at once... [furious]

Would like to know if I need to pay for Engine oil for 1k servicing?

Would like to know if I need to pay for Engine oil for 1k servicing?

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no need.

Why no one mention the Mazda 3, top spec or not, is really small and cramped inside? For a tall guy like me 1.85m, I feel claustrophobic inside the Mazda 3. Rear seats are almost out of the qns for me for I can't even sit up straight. I am forced to slide down further into the seat itself to try to clear the tight headroom but Mazda 3 legroom is tight too. In the end, I don't know what else I can do... except exit the showroom car at once...

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Well, we have mention it before... It really is quite cramped for a car that's 4.6m long.

Edited by 7hm, 30 July 2015 - 01:29 PM.

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Well, we have mention it before... It really is quite cramped for a car that's 4.6m long.

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The wheelbase is 2700mm for Mazda 3, but rear legroom feels like vios.

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Would like to know if I need to pay for Engine oil for 1k servicing?

Chamot, you buy car 2months liao juz gg for 1st 1k servicing??� :slow:

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The wheelbase is 2700mm for Mazda 3, but rear legroom feels like vios.

worse than vios, like sunny

frequent highway?

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Chamot, you buy car 2months liao juz gg for 1st 1k servicing??�

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anyone's kia came with paint protection?�

seems like de price in sgcarmart all increase liao for KIA. increase by 2k

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no need.

Thank you for replying!

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Chamot, you buy car 2months liao juz gg for 1st 1k servicing??�

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Collected and driven for about a month as I was away on holiday!� [:p]

Thank you for replying!

Collected and driven for about a month as I was away on holiday!�

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hehe the time/mileage gap between 1k and 10k very big hor....

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last time used to have 5k servicing right under the Kia service plan if you got that during purchase.

Would like to know if I need to pay for Engine oil for 1k servicing?

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hehe can get free Engine oil for all the servicing you go under the free 3 year servicing.... bring your own if you wanna upgrade the oil, but the svc ctr guys said no point, just use the free oil until 3 year finito.

Thank you for replying!

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Towkay Spotted !!!

frequent highway?

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70% Highway,30% City.

Edited by Maomao82, 31 July 2015 - 04:25 PM.

your FC of 5.8 puts mine to shame! Looks like i need to be more gentle on my accelerator! 17km / L is like mazda 3 levels of FC.
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Edited by ricleosg, 31 July 2015 - 05:05 PM.

your FC of 5.8 puts mine to shame! Looks like i need to be more gentle on my accelerator! 17km / L is like mazda 3 levels of FC.
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Maybe 90% highway? Keke

your FC of 5.8 puts mine to shame! Looks like i need to be more gentle on my accelerator! 17km / L is like mazda 3 levels of FC.
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I mostly at 2.5k rpm when constant speed. But my driving style is usually from stationary whack 3.5k hold it them, till like gear 3/4 if given no cars in front.

Usual route is TPE/KPE 8am traffic jam till hit AYE jam again, then small road commonwealth wtc.Same for return trips with small roads Clementi area. thats probably the only highway I frequent. The rest are all small roads when fetching wifey and kids,inlaws,parents place

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