mycarforum: KIA K3 Owners check-in! part 15

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I've seen some owners post that they have downgraded to 16inch wheels for a more comfortable ride and theoretical better fuel efficiency.�

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for me i think the 17inch sports rims look nicer.�

You shouldn't be downgrading wheelsize in search of so called better fuel economy... Your handling will suffer noticeably

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Instead you should be looking at investing a set of same size but ultralight forged wheels. Seriously, some forged wheels can be feather light...

17" ard 7kg only. And being forged alloy, they are strong too

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FYI depending on the manufacturer, small wheels may not be as light as u think. The G9 Altis tiny 14" wheels weighs in at a ridiculous 8.5kg/ea [furious] � [hur] ��

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We should be weighing the wheels using a weighing machine, size itself is not a good indicator .

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And take note of the offset numbers too. Too shallow an offset (usually meant for RWD vehicles and Euro makes) and your steering feel may be heavier than norm without adding any extra feel to�it. And your car may�feel less nimble as a result.�

hehe yes, i'm not looking to downgrade to a small size rims. happy with the current balance between ride comfort and handling. not too concerned about additional fuel economy since we already buy the car knowing this does not have the best fuel efficiency. Would have gotten the mazda 3 if looking for that.

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will stick to the stock sports rim for now

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You shouldn't be downgrading wheelsize in search of so called better fuel economy... Your handling will suffer noticeably

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Instead you should be looking at investing a set of same size but ultralight forged wheels. Seriously, some forged wheels can be feather light...

17" ard 7kg only. And being forged alloy, they are strong too

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FYI depending on the manufacturer, small wheels may not be as light as u think. The G9 Altis tiny 14" wheels weighs in at a ridiculous 8.5kg/ea � ��

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We should be weighing the wheels using a weighing machine, size itself is not a good indicator .

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And take note of the offset numbers too. Too shallow an offset (usually meant for RWD vehicles and Euro makes) and your steering feel may be heavier than norm without adding any extra feel to�it. And your car may�feel less nimble as a result.�

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Today Papers Straits Times got Ad - Forte K3 EFFECTIVE TRANSACTION price is $98,999

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Is that the selling price? Or there are something else huh ?

Today Papers Straits Times got Ad - Forte K3 EFFECTIVE TRANSACTION price is $98,999

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Is that the selling price? Or there are something else huh ?

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should be selling price, I'm guessing, but for low-spec EX trim only.

Today Papers Straits Times got Ad - Forte K3 EFFECTIVE TRANSACTION price is $98,999
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Is that the selling price? Or there are something else huh ?

Forget about K3, Mazda 3 standard is $99,888 now.

Or Elantra Elite it's $96,888. Kia is overpriced.

Edited by Ivan_06, 11 July 2015 - 04:49 PM.

standard and not deluxe but selling for 99888? oh gosh, mazda is real overpriced.

Forget about K3, Mazda 3 standard is $99,888 now.

Or Elantra Elite it's $96,888. Kia is overpriced.

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Elantra Elite's OMV is really poor and the equipment list has been strained to minimums to reach it. The K3 EX at least still boasts some luxuries.

Mazda 3 for an extra $1k does seem like it's worth more thought versus a K3 SX however. The Mazda will definitely be more economical and fun to drive, though the Forte I believe has superior cabin comfort and quietness.

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But when you step up to the deluxe models (MZ3 Deluxe and Forte's SX Sport) the SX Sport presents more value for money with its incredible list of features for this class of car, though the MZ3 does have the unique selling point of having a heads-up-display in this class.

But between both, I would call the MZ3 Dx a "playing while working" car while the Forte SX would be a quiet comfort.

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Also, I'm not sure if the MZ3's seats fold down. The Forte's do, but there's a tall ridge caused by the base of the seats, unlike the larger Optima which fold flat. On the other side of things, if you want a hatchback, the MZ3 is obviously the only choice of these three.

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To help put some things about their prices into perspective:

For May, these cars had the following OMVs:

"MAZDA3 SP 1.5L 4DR" (Mazda3 1.5L Deluxe sedan?): $16,026

"KIA FORTE K3 1.6A EX" (Forte K3 EX): $14,427

"KIA FORTE K3 1.6A SX S/R HID" (Forte K3 1.6A SX Sport): $19,105

"ELANTRA 1.6 AT ABS D/AB 2WD 4DR" (Elantra Elite?): $14,101

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Given their OMVs, KIA is probably making a bit more money on the EX versus an Elantra Elite which does edge it out in some ways (more airbags, right?), but the Elantra also skimps in other places. Furthermore, Hyundai is largely competing purely on price, while KIA is targeting a bracket of "luxury budget" cars... sorta.

Versus MZ3 standard, I can't say because the last few months of OMV from LTA don't seem to show any entries for a MZ3 that's not labeled "SP". I would estimate an OMV around $14~15k, which means that the K3 EX price is still competitive, while the Forte SX Sport has an OMV approaching small continental cars, despite having a price that competes with the Toyota Corolla or Mazda 3. It's exceptional value.

Edited by 7hm, 11 July 2015 - 07:21 PM.

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Elantra Elite's OMV is really poor and the equipment list has been strained to minimums to reach it. The K3 EX at least still boasts some luxuries.
Mazda 3 for an extra $1k does seem like it's worth more thought versus a K3 SX however. The Mazda will definitely be more economical and fun to drive, though the Forte I believe has superior cabin comfort and quietness.
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But when you step up to the deluxe models (MZ3 Deluxe and Forte's SX Sport) the SX Sport presents more value for money with its incredible list of features for this class of car, though the MZ3 does have the unique selling point of having a heads-up-display in this class.
But between both, I would call the MZ3 Dx a "playing while working" car while the Forte SX would be a quiet comfort.
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Also, I'm not sure if the MZ3's seats fold down. The Forte's do, but there's a tall ridge caused by the base of the seats, unlike the larger Optima which fold flat. On the other side of things, if you want a hatchback, the MZ3 is obviously the only choice of these three.
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To help put some things about their prices into perspective:
For May, these cars had the following OMVs:
"MAZDA3 SP 1.5L 4DR" (Mazda3 1.5L Deluxe sedan?): $16,026
"KIA FORTE K3 1.6A EX" (Forte K3 EX): $14,427
"KIA FORTE K3 1.6A SX S/R HID" (Forte K3 1.6A SX Sport): $19,105
"ELANTRA 1.6 AT ABS D/AB 2WD 4DR" (Elantra Elite?): $14,101
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Given their OMVs, KIA is probably making a bit more money on the EX versus an Elantra Elite which does edge it out in some ways (more airbags, right?), but the Elantra also skimps in other places. Furthermore, Hyundai is largely competing purely on price, while KIA is targeting a bracket of "luxury budget" cars... sorta.
Versus MZ3 standard, I can't say because the last few months of OMV from LTA don't seem to show any entries for a MZ3 that's not labeled "SP". I would estimate an OMV around $14~15k, which means that the K3 EX price is still competitive, while the Forte SX Sport has an OMV approaching small continental cars, despite having a price that competes with the Toyota Corolla or Mazda 3. It's exceptional value.

Elantra comes in three version, basic, premium and elite.

Elite comes with built-in LCD screen cut GPS navigator in the console, 6 air bags, memory electronic driver seat, rear air con and etc etc.

It's more than $10k cheaper than the highest spec k3. If drive to 10 years, PARF value for elite is around $8k as compared to $9.5k for k3 highest spec.

So which one is more value for money. Anyway, Kia was bought over by hyundai and they share many similar items from engine and etc.

If I were to pay the price for highest spec k3 which is $108k, I might as well pay for Mazda 3 deluxe which comes complete with the remote commander and etc etc.. The OMV is the same as k3 highest spec but it's made in Japan.

No hard feelings. If I were to pay $108k for k3 highest spec, I would rather pay $106888 for Mazda 3 deluxe.

There's a reason why Mazda are selling like hit cakes now with Mazda 3 and 6 flying off the shelves literally. Coming from an unbiased point of view.

The fuel consumption of Mazda 3 and 6 are incredible, where my colleague reported 16km/l for his 2l Mazda 6. K3 fuel consumption is poor in comparison. Mazda 3 FC is even better than 6

The folding of seats even the cheapest accent can do so, so that's nothing to shout about. Mazda and Hyundai also can

Edited by Ivan_06, 11 July 2015 - 08:18 PM.

Elantra comes in three version, basic, premium and elite.

Elite comes with built-in LCD screen cut GPS navigator in the console, 6 air bags, memory electronic driver seat, rear air con and etc etc.

It's more than $10k cheaper than the highest spec k3. If drive to 10 years, PARF value for elite is around $8k as compared to $9.5k for k3 highest spec.

So which one is more value for money. Anyway, Kia was bought over by hyundai and they share many similar items from engine and etc.

If I were to pay the price for highest spec k3 which is $108k, I might as well pay for Mazda 3 deluxe which comes complete with the remote commander and etc etc.. The OMV is the same as k3 highest spec but it's made in Japan.

No hard feelings. If I were to pay $108k for k3 highest spec, I would rather pay $106888 for Mazda 3 deluxe.

There's a reason why Mazda are selling like hit cakes now with Mazda 3 and 6 flying off the shelves literally. Coming from an unbiased point of view.

The fuel consumption of Mazda 3 and 6 are incredible, where my colleague reported 16km/l for his 2l Mazda 6. K3 fuel consumption is poor in comparison. Mazda 3 FC is even better than 6

The folding of seats even the cheapest accent can do so, so that's nothing to shout about. Mazda and Hyundai also can

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Last I checked, Elantra Elite came with a monochrome screen and non-memory seats. Have they upgraded the spec again?

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Like I said before, the Mazda is more handling oriented and while it is good value, the KIA Forte fights back with an unprecedented equipment list such as front sensors, ABS/TCS/STM, air-conditioned drivers seat, welcome lighting, rear air-con vents, etc.

The remote commander you mention is just another way to interact with the screen. It is nothing special. The Mazda's OMV is definitely not the same as the K3's SX Sport - even the 2.0L Mazda3 Sports has a lower OMV.

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If the Elantra Elite is so well equipped, then it is definitely better buy than the Forte EX, but if one were to compare the MZ3Dx vs the Forte SXS, one must weigh in on what they want. Both are selling equally well. One targets the ever-lasting Japanese-favoring crowd while appealing to the masses with sporty looks and top-notch handling, while the other is unmatched in value, creature comforts and overall equipment within this price bracket.

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As for seats folding, like I said, i wasn't certain if the Mazda3's seats folded. For example, I recall the current Corolla that BM brings in does not.

what you say makes sense.

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if the Mz3 was cheaper or same price as the K3 was when i was purchasing, I would have bought the Mz3. But at that time, the Mz3 was more expensive and i chose the K3.

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both are good cars, be happy with what you bought, and it will last you for 10 years fingers crossed. Made in japan doesnt mean the same thing as in the past anymore. Just head over to the Mz3 thread to see all the complaints of defects popping up.

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Kimchi cars have caught up and in some cases exceeded the quality of MIJ. That said, the Mz3 FC is really no horse run. This would be my only area of "complaint" for the K3 kekeke

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Elantra comes in three version, basic, premium and elite.

Elite comes with built-in LCD screen cut GPS navigator in the console, 6 air bags, memory electronic driver seat, rear air con and etc etc.

It's more than $10k cheaper than the highest spec k3. If drive to 10 years, PARF value for elite is around $8k as compared to $9.5k for k3 highest spec.

So which one is more value for money. Anyway, Kia was bought over by hyundai and they share many similar items from engine and etc.

If I were to pay the price for highest spec k3 which is $108k, I might as well pay for Mazda 3 deluxe which comes complete with the remote commander and etc etc.. The OMV is the same as k3 highest spec but it's made in Japan.

No hard feelings. If I were to pay $108k for k3 highest spec, I would rather pay $106888 for Mazda 3 deluxe.

There's a reason why Mazda are selling like hit cakes now with Mazda 3 and 6 flying off the shelves literally. Coming from an unbiased point of view.

The fuel consumption of Mazda 3 and 6 are incredible, where my colleague reported 16km/l for his 2l Mazda 6. K3 fuel consumption is poor in comparison. Mazda 3 FC is even better than 6

The folding of seats even the cheapest accent can do so, so that's nothing to shout about. Mazda and Hyundai also can

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Edited by ricleosg, 11 July 2015 - 08:31 PM.

Also now, Mazda3's $98k price is demo car, means it's been used as test drive car.

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And the new price lists now show nett pricing, I believe the room for negotiation has shrunk. K3 has still got negotiation room, I believe there are people who have book SX Sport for $99k, right?

I have just bought a k3 sport sx today at $110999

I have just bought a k3 sport sx today at $110999

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no nego?

what you say makes sense.
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if the Mz3 was cheaper or same price as the K3 was when i was purchasing, I would have bought the Mz3. But at that time, the Mz3 was more expensive and i chose the K3.
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both are good cars, be happy with what you bought, and it will last you for 10 years fingers crossed. Made in japan doesnt mean the same thing as in the past anymore. Just head over to the Mz3 thread to see all the complaints of defects popping up.
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Kimchi cars have caught up and in some cases exceeded the quality of MIJ. That said, the Mz3 FC is really no horse run. This would be my only area of "complaint" for the K3 kekeke
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Same when I was looking around for car, Mazda 3 was $105888 as compared to Accent which I eventually got for $90k. Furthermore Hyundai allows you to pay in cash and choose own insurance without any surcharges.

Fast forward to now, Mazda 3 standard is $99,888, Accent is $85,888 and Elantra basic is $86,888, K3 basic is $98k.

To me, price is a big factor and the car is a transport from A to B with the fuel consumption being a major factor for me.

But really surprised by how much Mazda has slashed it's prices. It's already the top 4/5 car brand for 2015. Hyundai has also slashed it's prices with the dropping of COE prices. But Kia prices are still quite high.

Also now, Mazda3's $98k price is demo car, means it's been used as test drive car.
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And the new price lists now show nett pricing, I believe the room for negotiation has shrunk. K3 has still got negotiation room, I believe there are people who have book SX Sport for $99k, right?

I am referring to the $99,888 Mazda 3. It's not a demo car lah, brand new one. $98k one is the demo car.

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Last I checked, Elantra Elite came with a monochrome screen and non-memory seats. Have they upgraded the spec again?
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Like I said before, the Mazda is more handling oriented and while it is good value, the KIA Forte fights back with an unprecedented equipment list such as front sensors, ABS/TCS/STM, air-conditioned drivers seat, welcome lighting, rear air-con vents, etc.
The remote commander you mention is just another way to interact with the screen. It is nothing special. The Mazda's OMV is definitely not the same as the K3's SX Sport - even the 2.0L Mazda3 Sports has a lower OMV.
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If the Elantra Elite is so well equipped, then it is definitely better buy than the Forte EX, but if one were to compare the MZ3Dx vs the Forte SXS, one must weigh in on what they want. Both are selling equally well. One targets the ever-lasting Japanese-favoring crowd while appealing to the masses with sporty looks and top-notch handling, while the other is unmatched in value, creature comforts and overall equipment within this price bracket.
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As for seats folding, like I said, i wasn't certain if the Mazda3's seats folded. For example, I recall the current Corolla that BM brings in does not.

Elantra has 3 versions, cheapest is $87k, highest end elite model is $97k. Middle version is $92k. Elite has a lot of features and includes what I have just mentioned.

The remote commander is like those found in Audi and Continental tides. To me, it's like wow to see it in a bb made in Japan car.

I have just bought a k3 sport sx today at $110999

Wow. How come so expensive?

Edited by Ivan_06, 11 July 2015 - 09:11 PM.

At below $100k mark, Mazda 3 represents the best value for money bb car. Just because I bought a kimchi, I wouldn't say it's the best. But value for money.

At below $90k mark, Accent and Elantra would represent value for money though I know some would say it's attrage. Well that's fine. Both accent and elantra basic version are cheaper than attrage in the last price list.

Hope CC can see this and start pricing K3 to fight with other makes, making a win win situation for future buyers.

Edited by Ivan_06, 11 July 2015 - 09:17 PM.

is the sliver package with 6 bids non guaranteed coe which cost 112999.

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the sales discount me with 2k and also upgrade to 1 bid guaranteed coe

Same when I was looking around for car, Mazda 3 was $105888 as compared to Accent which I eventually got for $90k. Furthermore Hyundai allows you to pay in cash and choose own insurance without any surcharges.

Fast forward to now, Mazda 3 standard is $99,888, Accent is $85,888 and Elantra basic is $86,888, K3 basic is $98k.

The remote commander is like those found in Audi and Continental tides. To me, it's like wow to see it in a bb made in Japan car.

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recently the discussion for Elantra Elite say they reduced the spec a lot to reduce OMV, such as no more dual-zone auto-aircon, no more sunroof, etc. Have they raised it again? Price list now says $107k for Elite. I'm assuming $97k is after inquiries.

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Eh... if you are "wow" about a little rotary controller, well... imo it's really just design/cool factor rather than actual usefulness. It's just a different way to interact with infotainment system.

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KIA is under C&C... I don't think C&C is as concerned with targeting lowest price, they are still competing based on equipment list. C&C positions itself as sort of premium dealer in a way after all. End of day, it's personal choices. Depends on what each and every person value. Elantra has reasonably well over last few years due to being a cheap car that's actually quite well made. Current K3 Forte has won a lot of buyers due to its refinement and excellent value for money due to equipment list. Mazda3 has won its buyers by being most competitively priced out of the Japanese brands, boasting great handling and good fuel economy... and of course KODO is very eyecatching to most.

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Out of all three I would not choose Elantra Elite over K3 SXS, but versus Mazda3, it is a harder decision for me. For Mazda3 I would be more likely to look at 2.0 Sports hatchback anyway, so it is falling into a different class already.

Same when I was looking around for car, Mazda 3 was $105888 as compared to Accent which I eventually got for $90k. Furthermore Hyundai allows you to pay in cash and choose own insurance without any surcharges.

Fast forward to now, Mazda 3 standard is $99,888, Accent is $85,888 and Elantra basic is $86,888, K3 basic is $98k.

To me, price is a big factor and the car is a transport from A to B with the fuel consumption being a major factor for me.

But really surprised by how much Mazda has slashed it's prices. It's already the top 4/5 car brand for 2015. Hyundai has also slashed it's prices with the dropping of COE prices. But Kia prices are still quite high.
I am referring to the $99,888 Mazda 3. It's not a demo car lah, brand new one. $98k one is the demo car.
Elantra has 3 versions, cheapest is $87k, highest end elite model is $97k. Middle version is $92k. Elite has a lot of features and includes what I have just mentioned.

The remote commander is like those found in Audi and Continental tides. To me, it's like wow to see it in a bb made in Japan car.

Wow. How come so expensive?

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Mazda 3 - The KODO design is AWESOME + 5points. A touch of Conti feel, with the help of remote commander + another 5 points...

Interior Space... WTF..... - 15 points straight.. machiam went into a 2002 Toyota Vios sia la...

What? Battery cost $300+ �to replace ???

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Elantra - 97k Good price !!! But wait... No SunRoof? How to romantic at Changi Beach carpark .
No paddle shifters? Got to use left hand +- to manual overtake.. Huh !!! � ��

No HID? �how to blind the driver in front?

No Cruise Control?? - U mean I got to floor my accelerator non stop on NSHW...leg cramp how?

No Body KIt? - Give me ma, then I can rebate for more discount leh.

No Dual Climatic Control?? - What Era liao ...

No Hill-start Assit Control? �Later car roll back, people thot I manual boi gan one.

No Air-con Seats? Wah biang.. I sweat a �lot one you know. Later my shirt 1 patch wet other OL stare woh

4.3" TFT LCD Audio System - Huh? Same size as my Samsung S3 . For ant to view my reverse cam is it ???

Taxi i45 look? Huh.. later road side passengers try to flag my Elantra how??

Taxi i45 look? Huh.. later road side passengers try to flag my Elantra how??

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As long as you don't modify like this, should be OK...

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I'd be more worried about people trying to flag me down if I was driving an i40 estate than an Elantra.

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Mazda 3 - The KODO design is AWESOME + 5points. A touch of Conti feel, with the help of remote commander + another 5 points...
Interior Space... WTF..... - 15 points straight.. machiam went into a 2002 Toyota Vios sia la...
What? Battery cost $300+ �to replace ???
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Elantra - 97k Good price !!! But wait... No SunRoof? How to romantic at Changi Beach carpark .
No paddle shifters? Got to use left hand +- to manual overtake.. Huh !!! � ��
No HID? �how to blind the driver in front?
No Cruise Control?? - U mean I got to floor my accelerator non stop on NSHW...leg cramp how?
No Body KIt? - Give me ma, then I can rebate for more discount leh.
No Dual Climatic Control?? - What Era liao ...
No Hill-start Assit Control? �Later car roll back, people thot I manual boi gan one.
No Air-con Seats? Wah biang.. I sweat a �lot one you know. Later my shirt 1 patch wet other OL stare woh
4.3" TFT LCD Audio System - Huh? Same size as my Samsung S3 . For ant to view my reverse cam is it ???
Taxi i45 look? Huh.. later road side passengers try to flag my Elantra how??

If I buy elantra, I would take the basic version at 87k. It's at least 12k cheaper than basic k3. No need for high tech stuff. Just need a car from point a to b.

Edited by Ivan_06, 12 July 2015 - 05:56 AM.

Hi guys, one question about tyre. If the tyre went puncture bcos the nozzle pin flew out (which I have no idea why it did). Can it be claim at C&C? By the way, from the look of the tyre side wall already gone.

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Anyone know how much the stock tyre cost and where to get it from outside workshop? TIA

Edited by k3k3k3, 12 July 2015 - 09:38 AM.

Hi guys, one question about tyre. If the tyre went puncture bcos the nozzle pin flew out (which I have no idea why it did). Can it be claim at C&C? By the way, from the look of the tyre side wall already gone.
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Anyone know how much the stock tyre cost and where to get it from outside workshop? TIA

wow how long ago did u collect the ride? Definitely shld bring back to c&c to try for replacement if v new.But hard to prove that the tire burst due to nozzle pin or sharp oobjects u may habe run over u knowingly. Any damage on the sports rim?

I have just bought a k3 sport sx today at $110999

dont worry is a good price for 1 bid guarantee. The v cheap prices being compared are the 6 bid non guaranteed pricing

If I buy elantra, I would take the basic version at 87k. It's at least 12k cheaper than basic k3. No need for high tech stuff. Just need a car from point a to b.

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Not everyone is contended with only the basic features. I believe most, if not all current k3 owners bought this car based on the impressive features at a really good price.�

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It all depends on individual actually, for me i dont mind paying more for all those features maomao has indicated. It makes my ride more enjoyable. btw i heard the basic elantra doesnt even have a electric foldable side mirror? or is it the window?

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Not everyone is contended with only the basic features. I believe most, if not all current k3 owners bought this car based on the impressive features at a really good price.�

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It all depends on individual actually, for me i dont mind paying more for all those features maomao has indicated. It makes my ride more enjoyable. btw i heard the basic elantra doesnt even have a electric foldable side mirror? or is it the window?

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can quick update btw the basic elantra vs k3?

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can quick update btw the basic elantra vs k3?

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u can use the compare function sgcarmart. pretty informative.�

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u can use the compare function sgcarmart. pretty informative.�

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Information on sgcarmart is not totally accurate. At least about 95% accurate. Just be careful.�

wow k3 price today is 115 999 ! how u get 110999

can everyone share their latest k3 buys and package/price/freestuffs ? Challenging my sales person that he has given the best.�

is the sliver package with 6 bids non guaranteed coe which cost 112999.

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can everyone share their latest k3 buys and package/price/freestuffs ? Challenging my sales person that he has given the best.�

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so what deal did your sales agent give you in terms of price and freebies and number of bids?

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for C&C, the price depends on whether you take up their loans with DBS and insurance with AIG, and more discounts if u do trade in.�

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Think you need to compare with some of the bros who bought the sports SX more recently as the package will be comparable. mine was the pre sports SX without sunroof, sports trim and HID lamps.

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go shopping nearer to the month end and perhaps the sales person will try to entice u with better deals if he is trying to meet a sales target.

Edited by ricleosg, 13 July 2015 - 10:28 AM.

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can quick update btw the basic elantra vs k3?

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Sigh let me try here, I used the top spec models for both.

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Advantages the Forte SX Sports (sunroof and HID version) over the 'top spec' Elantra Elite

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-�� Factory sunroof and factory fitted HIDs

-��Real LED DRLs vs locally fitted, dunno-came-from-where lightbulbs DRLs (although the Elantra brochure clearly showed LED DRLs ard the headlight projector lens)

- 17" factory wheels vs 16"

-� No more cruise control for the FL Elantra! (the preFL Elantra did)

-� Elantra no longer offer Bluetooth connection to your phone ( a big safety blunder, again preFL Elantra did)

-� Full tilt and telescopic steering column adj. Elantra can only adj for tilt (pre FL Elantra offered full adj just like the Forte)

-� Dual zone climate control with LG air purifier vs Elantra full manual stuff (Totally unacceptable. PreFL Elantra has dual zone climate control too)

-� heated and vented driver's seat and heated passenger seat. Elantra got none

-� Forte powered driver seats has 2 mem settings. Elantrra power driver seat settings cannot be saved.

-� Forte comes with full LED taillights with rear foglamps. Elantra comes with LED-LIKE taillight red covers but with single lightbulb behind. No rear foglamps also.

-� Forte has hill start assist, Elantra has none.

-� Forte leather is factory fitted, Elantra locally fitted.

-� Forte can be had with the nice integrated GPS screen HU. Although I understand the Elantra came with similar stuff these days too.

-� Forte SX has elecrochromatic rear view mirror, Elantra still on simple flip lever kind.

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Still think you are getting a great deal with the Elantra Elite? [laugh]

elantra resale definitely lose to k3�

anyone looking for a full set 7pc Kia Kspeed logo?

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I bought a full set recently, but decided not to change my logos in the end hehe..... �pm me if interested.

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wow how long ago did u collect the ride? Definitely shld bring back to c&c to try for replacement if v new.But hard to prove that the tire burst due to nozzle pin or sharp oobjects u may habe run over u knowingly. Any damage on the sports rim?

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Just collected the car for one month. The tyre ran flat with damage to the side wall.

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Initially, the SA only wanna replace the nozzle but i insisted they replace the whole tyre!

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Btw, how much is the emblem?

Edited by k3k3k3, 14 July 2015 - 03:58 PM.

I thought the weekend promotional price was 100k for the SX model. How come you bought at inflated price of 10k extra. Ip

I thought the weekend promotional price was 100k for the SX model. How come you bought at inflated price of 10k extra. Ip

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huh so cheap? 100k for the sports version?

from the latest price list i could see, it was 115999 for guaranteed 1 bid, 112999 for 6 bid non guaranteed (silver package) and 108999 for 6 bid non guaranteed (basic package)

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not sure what is the silver and basic package, probably differences in the COE rebate level.

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huh so cheap? 100k for the sports version?

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Just sharing.

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I booked�just before for�the�first half jul coe bidding.

model - sx sports

price - 115,999

bargain till - 111,999 with free upgrade to 6 bid guaranteed.

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told by�SE, �he will bid on july coe, check IC, and indeed there is a bid.

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After coe, say will give car within 2 weeks. so now is waiting.

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However I am not satisfied with my SE services so shall not recommend the SE.

Just sharing.

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I booked�just before for�the�first half jul coe bidding.

model - sx sports

price - 115,999

bargain till - 111,999 with free upgrade to 6 bid guaranteed.

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told by�SE, �he will bid on july coe, check IC, and indeed there is a bid.

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After coe, say will give car within 2 weeks. so now is waiting.

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However I am not satisfied with my SE services so shall not recommend the SE.

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can share why you're not satisfied with him? and maybe the initials so others can avoid if he is bad

Eighttales, on 15 Jul 2015 - 11:19 AM, said:Eighttales, on 15 Jul 2015 - 11:19 AM, said:

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can share why you're not satisfied with him? and maybe the initials so others can avoid if he is bad

I will think bargain till I get 4k off is consider not bad.

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but maybe its just�ME that I find his service too slow. hahaha

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slow in giving trade in quote, slow in replying, slow in turning up. but collect cheque very fast. haha�:/

Edited by boobic, 15 July 2015 - 11:32 AM.

I will think bargain till I get 4k off is consider not bad.

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but maybe its just�ME that I find his service too slow. hahaha

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slow in giving trade in quote, slow in replying, slow in turning up. but collect cheque very fast. haha�:/

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hehe i think collecting $$$ fast is the same for all sales person.�

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$4k off good la. what freebies did you get? eurostyle GPS rear cam, rikecool?

ricleosg, on 15 Jul 2015 - 11:33 AM, said:

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hehe i think collecting $$$ fast is the same for all sales person.�

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$4k off good la. what freebies did you get? eurostyle GPS rear cam, rikecool?

Yup, maybe i'm the impatient type so will think the SE is slow. lol

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no other freebies liao, minus 4k, and free upgrade from non-guaranteed to guaranteed (silver package)

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but I know after I book tat week, they have a 24hrs� weekend special which give free sunfilm, gps, and camera.

Just sharing.

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I booked�just before for�the�first half jul coe bidding.

model - sx sports

price - 115,999

bargain till - 111,999 with free upgrade to 6 bid guaranteed.

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told by�SE, �he will bid on july coe, check IC, and indeed there is a bid.

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After coe, say will give car within 2 weeks. so now is waiting.

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However I am not satisfied with my SE services so shall not recommend the SE.

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no free gifts?

drwatson, on 15 Jul 2015 - 2:51 PM, said:

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no free gifts?

nope. all I list out liao. :/

nope. all I list out liao. :/

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ah...so now "upgrade" to guaranteed bid becomes a freebie hehe....

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try to grab more freebie. �i went for the eurostyle GPS and rear camera cuz it's value is one of the higher ones in the list....

ricleosg, on 15 Jul 2015 - 4:17 PM, said:

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ah...so now "upgrade" to guaranteed bid becomes a freebie hehe....

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try to grab more freebie. �i went for the eurostyle GPS and rear camera cuz it's value is one of the higher ones in the list....

Not bad, yah free upgrade has become a "freebie" liao

how much you get your car?

Not bad, yah free upgrade has become a "freebie" liao

how much you get your car?

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when i bought the car COE was higher. list price 118999. bargain to 115999. ask for 2k freebie. got the COE at first bid guaranteed. Car delivered within 1 week.

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now the deal is better with lower COE prices hehe... but ok la..... get to enjoy the car a few months earlier also nice :p

Edited by ricleosg, 15 July 2015 - 05:16 PM.

can everyone share their latest k3 buys and package/price/freestuffs ? Challenging my sales person that he has given the best.�

Due to COE drop..Final price $110999, Gold Package + Eurostyle + Rikecool. Squeeze until dry dry. Though paying higher for past round June $60k high COE but gets to enjoy ride earlier is definitely worth it

Well Well Well...
lets say the SX sport is 10k above elite price.

1. How many times do you open your sun roof. HID (200 with installation)
2. There is Led DRL on the headlight. Please go test drive
3. 16inch wheels are lighter thus more fuel efficient. if trade in when new max pay 500 for 17inch
4. There is bluetooth to your phone. im driving the gls fl model also have. GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
5. Do you really need to keep adjusting the steering wheel. If you need the telescopic instead of moving your seat means u have long legs and short hands. like a t rex
6. The fl elite model has dual zone climate control too. Again please get your facts right.
7. Singapore so hot still need heated seats.
8. Do you always need to move your seat. if you are the main driver you will never get to use it.
9. For the tail lights can buy from tao bao. 350sgd. i install for u.
10. Singapore has many 60degree hills that u need to climb.
11. does it matter if its locally or factory fitted leather. still leather.
12. elantra elite has integrated gps as well. so this comment is redundant
13. electronic rear view mirror +100 to change.

omv: elantra 14k. k3 sport abt18k.
10yrs scrap diff 2k
so in terms of price. 10k-2k-200(HID)-500 (Wheels)-350(LED tail light)-100 (electrochromatic rearview) = 6850 you save
lets give another rebate of 10% as my price may not be 100%accurate im leaft with 6k.

you you tell me. you spend 6k extra for things tgat you do not use?
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1a. As an SX Sports owner, I agree I dont open the runroof. But I always open the cover to let �sunlight shines in

1b. HID to me is a MUST. at least thats what I promise myself after owning my 1st car using Halogen bulb..freaky old skool

3. Prefer 17" handling & stability

4. My wife does drive the car, so yes to your question. And yes, I have smaller hands, and longer legs

7. No. We do not need heated seats, but I definitely need air con seats. And I appreciate this function a LOT !!!�I'm the type who can sweat even at 23 degrees.�

11. I always prefer everything Factory fitted, coz all done by machines to precision. Anything that requires 3rd party to remove & install, I will consider again.

12. How the GPS routing for Elantra? I can only say the Eurotyle one is amazing, imo better than Garmin/ Google maps.. Routing is so d#*n bl**dy FAST!

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Yes. I will pay that $6k extra for the features.. if its like $15k onwards.. Paiseh NO. I will buy Elantra,

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Different pple, different needs. Different budget. Price is defnitely not everything�

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For case, my 1st car, Yes .. Top consideration Budget!!

2nd car onwards? I'm willing to pay for gadgets, pay for shiokness if well within my means. YOLO

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juz my humble 2c worth� [smash]

local fitted elantra is also ventilated leather seats.
you do know there is a fues connected for the memory seats right. imagine your fuse blow and yoyou do not know whete the fuse is or how to change. what amp to change. you will be stuck and need to call someone to help u.

you are right! the differences are not worth 10K. both are good cars, but actually the current price difference based on the sgcarmart price list is 108999 (forte sx) vs 107999 (elantra elite) for the non-guaranteed bids.
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1k difference.... I think getting all the premium features factory built vs having them installed DIY/third party is worth it. DIY runs the risk of voiding warranty and running foul of LTA inspections (when it comes to LED lighting).
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Much of the comments below make sense, just some minor corrections.
- ventilate seats includes cooling function of air-con blowing through the seats, not just heating. very comfortable and highly appreciated.�
- electric memory seats. - the seats move all the way back automatically when driver opens the door to allow easy entry/exit, and moves into the memory position for driving. Not about keep adjusting the seat, but convenience to the driver.
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local fitted elantra is also ventilated leather seats.
you do know there is a fues connected for the memory seats right. imagine your fuse blow and yoyou do not know whete the fuse is or how to change. what amp to change. you will be stuck and need to call someone to help u.
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eh. ventilated as in there are air-con ducts that blow directly into the seat and blow out at your back/bum. real air-con and not just leather with holes. Elantra also have ah? den need to update SG carmart feature list liao. when i test drove there wasnt such feature.

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For fuse, agree if fuse blows there will be inconvenience, but not to the extent of stuck la... just a less comfortable driving position with lots of space if i need to drive from redhill to the leng kee workshop for them to replace the fuse :p

Gold Pacakage means 1bid guranteed COE. Could have saved lagi more if chose silver package,but kanna hum by the removal of $5K CEVS rebate =/

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haha i also kena hum by CEVS rebate... end up COE drop more den CEVS rebate being lost.... could have saved more if we bought the car 1-2mths late haha.... but take it as pay to enjoy the car earlier

Edited by ricleosg, 16 July 2015 - 11:05 AM.

although everyone says korean cars generally are not fuel efficient, the FC for the forte has surprised me.

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I haven't resetted my FC / trip settings on the car since I bought the K3, and it was hovering around 8-10 per 100km throughout these few months, and I was resigned to the fact that the forte has not so good FC.

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Last night, i resetted the settings, and i found that my trip to work gave calculations of 6.4 / 100KM, which is 15.6km per 1L of petrol, and I "downgraded" to 95 from 98 in this current tank.

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amazed I could get better FC compared to the specifications listed by Kia themselves. My journey to work was about 20% small roads and 80% highway, and I don't consider myself a light footed driver.

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what are your FC rates nowadays? try resetting the trip computer and it may amaze you.

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How come your FC so good?

Mine very weird leh. It says 8.6/100km �on display (btw I did't reset it till date) got the car for like 2 months now i think.

BUT!! when i calculated from last pump to my next pump and the distance i travel it's actually worst than display leh!

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Display: 8.6/100km is about = 11.63km/L�

Manual caculation: � � � � � � � = 10.65km/L

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And I see the brothers here getting 7.5 + - /100km = 13.33km/L�

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Am I am using 98 Zzzz really don't know what is wrong. Is it because my car is EX the rim smaller so FC lousier?

Most of time driving expressway =.= ok maybe 60% expressway �40% small road

FML

i also didnt reset the trip computer until last night. I thought smaller rim gives better FC?

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ha... manual calculation i havent really tried calculating, will try calculating in the next pump. Maybe the manual calculation will show the true FC.

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last time i was also thinking how the bros here get 7.5+ per 100km until i got a 6.4 / 100km after trip reset. maybe cuz mine is 80% highway and 20% smal road, and the 80% usually smooth on ECP/AYE.

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How come your FC so good?

Mine very weird leh. It says 8.6/100km �on display (btw I did't reset it till date) got the car for like 2 months now i think.

BUT!! when i calculated from last pump to my next pump and the distance i travel it's actually worst than display leh!

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Display: 8.6/100km is about = 11.63km/L�

Manual caculation: � � � � � � � = 10.65km/L

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And I see the brothers here getting 7.5 + - /100km = 13.33km/L�

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Am I am using 98 Zzzz really don't know what is wrong. Is it because my car is EX the rim smaller so FC lousier?

Most of time driving expressway =.= ok maybe 60% expressway �40% small road

FML

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How come your FC so good?

Mine very weird leh. It says 8.6/100km �on display (btw I did't reset it till date) got the car for like 2 months now i think.

BUT!! when i calculated from last pump to my next pump and the distance i travel it's actually worst than display leh!

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Display: 8.6/100km is about = 11.63km/L�

Manual caculation: � � � � � � � = 10.65km/L

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And I see the brothers here getting 7.5 + - /100km = 13.33km/L�

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Am I am using 98 Zzzz really don't know what is wrong. Is it because my car is EX the rim smaller so FC lousier?

Most of time driving expressway =.= ok maybe 60% expressway �40% small road

FML

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bro you are not alone. i manually calculate against the displayed numbers also differ but a lot.

display showing 12 - 13. i manual calculate only like 8-9.

hahha

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bro you are not alone. i manually calculate against the displayed numbers also differ but a lot.

display showing 12 - 13. i manual calculate only like 8-9.

hahha

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means your manual calculation more fuel efficient den the screen display? 12-13/100km vs 8-9/100KM

i think he meant 12-13km/litre but manual is 8-9/km/litre.

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Glad im not alone.

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Ps didn't know small rim = better FC :$ means display bluff pple one =.=

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Next time u calculate manually update us! see accurate anot...

i think he meant 12-13km/litre but manual is 8-9/km/litre.

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Glad im not alone.

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Ps didn't know small rim = better FC :$ means display bluff pple one =.=

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Next time u calculate manually update us! see accurate anot...

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hehe how to calculate accurately manually ah? I usually dont leave the tank to be empty before pumping petrol. do it about quarter tank stage. Abit hard to agar agar how many litres used when the reading doesnt show how many litres left

Edited by ricleosg, 16 July 2015 - 12:30 PM.

Well Well Well...
lets say the SX sport is 10k above elite price.

1. How many times do you open your sun roof. HID (200 with installation)
2. There is Led DRL on the headlight. Please go test drive
3. 16inch wheels are lighter thus more fuel efficient. if trade in when new max pay 500 for 17inch
4. There is bluetooth to your phone. im driving the gls fl model also have. GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
5. Do you really need to keep adjusting the steering wheel. If you need the telescopic instead of moving your seat means u have long legs and short hands. like a t rex
6. The fl elite model has dual zone climate control too. Again please get your facts right.
7. Singapore so hot still need heated seats.
8. Do you always need to move your seat. if you are the main driver you will never get to use it.
9. For the tail lights can buy from tao bao. 350sgd. i install for u.
10. Singapore has many 60degree hills that u need to climb.
11. does it matter if its locally or factory fitted leather. still leather.
12. elantra elite has integrated gps as well. so this comment is redundant
13. electronic rear view mirror +100 to change.

omv: elantra 14k. k3 sport abt18k.
10yrs scrap diff 2k
so in terms of price. 10k-2k-200(HID)-500 (Wheels)-350(LED tail light)-100 (electrochromatic rearview) = 6850 you save
lets give another rebate of 10% as my price may not be 100%accurate im leaft with 6k.

you you tell me. you spend 6k extra for things tgat you do not use?
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Aaron, please tell me which button as shown in this pic showed a dual zone climate control with plasma ion cluster air purifier?

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And tell me where's the Bluetooth (and cruise control buttons for that matter) buttons are?

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The rest I rest my case la

anyone here updated their eurostyle GPS? I think the version installed on my K3 is not very updated, some of roads that had changes recently (eg the gardens by the bay) are not accurate at all.

This is my first time posting :-

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I feel that Car are expensive now and we need to drive more than 7 years above so that the depreciation will be minimum.�

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That's why as a driver we require�as much gadgets as possible so that we will not feel boring after�driving a few years.�

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This is how I feel. Do not mind to pay extra 5K - 7K for the in built gadgets.

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You can go rest your eyes. Firstly the aircon portion you posted is on the gls. We are talking about the elite model.
Now for the bluetooth. please see attached. And im driving a facelift gls model.
Aaron, please tell me which button as shown in this pic showed a dual zone climate control with plasma ion cluster air purifier?

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And tell me where's the Bluetooth (and cruise control buttons for that matter) buttons are?

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The rest I rest my case la

Aaron, please tell me which button as shown in this pic showed a dual zone climate control with plasma ion cluster air purifier?

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And tell me where's the Bluetooth (and cruise control buttons for that matter) buttons are?

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Edited by AaronLow, 16 July 2015 - 01:29 PM.

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hehe how to calculate accurately manually ah? I usually dont leave the tank to be empty before pumping petrol. do it about quarter tank stage. Abit hard to agar agar how many litres used when the reading doesnt show how many litres left

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This is how i calculation

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From your 1st pump look at your total travel e.g. 20,500KM

Then for your 2nd pump (say u left 1/2 or 1/4 tank doesn't really matter just pump at your usual pace) take your total travel e.g. 21,000km. Then your receipt will show you how many liters u pump right e.g. 40Litres.

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21,000 - 20,500 = 500km / 40litres = 12.5km/litre.

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If wrong let me know hor lol else i have been calculating wrongly all the while.

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Actually don't understand why people have to argue over which car more worth it. This kind of thing very subjective what. You like kia then buy kia la u like hyundai then buy hyundai la. At the end of the day you are the one driving not other pple what. If you think spend more $ for more features worth it then you will feel worth it lo. If you prefer spend less $ on features you don't use also worth it. No need quarrel la =.=

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How come your FC so good?

Mine very weird leh. It says 8.6/100km �on display (btw I did't reset it till date) got the car for like 2 months now i think.

BUT!! when i calculated from last pump to my next pump and the distance i travel it's actually worst than display leh!

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Display: 8.6/100km is about = 11.63km/L�

Manual caculation: � � � � � � � = 10.65km/L

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And I see the brothers here getting 7.5 + - /100km = 13.33km/L�

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Am I am using 98 Zzzz really don't know what is wrong. Is it because my car is EX the rim smaller so FC lousier?

Most of time driving expressway =.= ok maybe 60% expressway �40% small road

FML

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The displayed value appears to be 'better' than reality by ~0.4l/100km.

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I drive an EX too. I get ~6.4l/100km (displayed) if my speed average 44km/h.

It drops to ~7.6l/100km (displayed) when my average speed is 35km/h.

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I suggest you read your FC with the average speed if you wish to compare, as that would have included traffic speed, stop time, etc...
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i think he meant 12-13km/litre but manual is 8-9/km/litre.

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Glad im not alone.

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Ps didn't know small rim = better FC :$ means display bluff pple one =.=

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Next time u calculate manually update us! see accurate anot...

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you are right bro

hehe your method shld be accurate up to a certain % but not 100%. cuz the "full tank" definition may be different for each pump attendent. some will pump until nearly overflow and consider full, some will pump less.�

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so the 40 litres we pump now may be slightly more or less than how much was used for the 500km. But i think at most +- 5% error la so shld be acceptable. will take note for my next pump.

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question on car comparison...everyone will feel defensive if someone says your car is not worth it. so the debates go on and on. hyundai and kia all sama sama to me hehe.... if compare kia to audi more interesting, since people say KIA is Koreans Imitating Audi.

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This is how i calculation

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From your 1st pump look at your total travel e.g. 20,500KM

Then for your 2nd pump (say u left 1/2 or 1/4 tank doesn't really matter just pump at your usual pace) take your total travel e.g. 21,000km. Then your receipt will show you how many liters u pump right e.g. 40Litres.

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21,000 - 20,500 = 500km / 40litres = 12.5km/litre.

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If wrong let me know hor lol else i have been calculating wrongly all the while.

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Actually don't understand why people have to argue over which car more worth it. This kind of thing very subjective what. You like kia then buy kia la u like hyundai then buy hyundai la. At the end of the day you are the one driving not other pple what. If you think spend more $ for more features worth it then you will feel worth it lo. If you prefer spend less $ on features you don't use also worth it. No need quarrel la =.=

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Edited by ricleosg, 16 July 2015 - 02:37 PM.

Ask attendant to let the pump auto-stop. That should be consistent enough.

The owner manual also advised to use this method to prevent damage to the emission system.

Though some attendant nod head but still squeeze to round off the dollar. [:(]

good to know I didn't thought about that. Next time i take note! But WHY U ALL CAN 6.X/100km OMG!

Edited by starofall, 16 July 2015 - 02:47 PM.

good to know I didn't thought about that. Next time i take note! But WHY U ALL CAN 6.X/100km OMG!

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Well Well Well...
lets say the SX sport is 10k above elite price.

1. How many times do you open your sun roof. HID (200 with installation) - I do not intend to open but I want the additional light from the sunroof.
2. There is Led DRL on the headlight. Please go test drive - facelift Elantra has this, I know that much
3. 16inch wheels are lighter thus more fuel efficient. if trade in when new max pay 500 for 17inch - depends on what they're made of. 16" is not always lighter... but anyway you should know by now SGP like large rims
4. There is bluetooth to your phone. im driving the gls fl model also have. GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT - I expect the car to have Bluetooth, but I don't see the controls.
5. Do you really need to keep adjusting the steering wheel. If you need the telescopic instead of moving your seat means u have long legs and short hands. like a t rex - you are now just being bullish. I've sat in some cars where without telescopic adjustment you can only sit uncomfortably close to the front of the car leaving insufficient legroom. And I'm not really "above average", I think. It's an even more important point if you share your car with others.
6. The fl elite model has dual zone climate control too. Again please get your facts right. - honestly, I can't see anything in the showroom cars that look anything like automatic dual-zone air-conditioning controls. They look completely like manual single-zone controls.
7. Singapore so hot still need heated seats. - night time, sometimes it's cold or you have those kind of passenger that need some warmth on their back, especially if you just ran through our tropical rain? Or when you drive up to Genting? Please widen your mind. I agree that i do not need this and rather have cooled seats, but there are reasons for everything.
8. Do you always need to move your seat. if you are the main driver you will never get to use it. - Memory seats will remember positions for you and at least one other main family driver. With my current manual seats I always feel "wrong" when I get back into the car and have to readjust after someone else has driven.
9. For the tail lights can buy from tao bao. 350sgd. i install for u.
10. Singapore has many 60degree hills that u need to climb. -� if we have so many hills, why are you saying we don't need HSA then?
11. does it matter if its locally or factory fitted leather. still leather. - you might not have the discerning eye then to tell that factory fitted leather is often of substantially superior worksmanship, whether it is double in-seam stitching or what not. And local leather from a budget-targeting dealer like Komoco?
12. elantra elite has integrated gps as well. so this comment is redundant
13. electronic rear view mirror +100 to change. - aren't both brands using this?

omv: elantra 14k. k3 sport abt18k.
10yrs scrap diff 2k
so in terms of price. 10k-2k-200(HID)-500 (Wheels)-350(LED tail light)-100 (electrochromatic rearview) = 6850 you save
lets give another rebate of 10% as my price may not be 100%accurate im leaft with 6k.

you you tell me. you spend 6k extra for things tgat you do not use?
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So these are all things people who are buying this car intend to use.

On Cheefarn's photos from SGCM, I still do not see bluetooth controls and dual-zone aircon. That looks 100% like manual single-zone to me.

Furthermore, it's labelled Elantra Elite in the review.

Your photo of your Elantra GLS furthermore also doesn't show bluetooth controls.

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Having seen your other posts, yes we get it, you love your Elantra and it's the better car than the Forte for everything...

But please, widen your mind - for everything you think is useless, there is someone who believes there is a genuine point to it.

For me, I would rather buy the well-equipped Forte SX-S than an Elantra Elite, because it has "$6k extra of things" that I will use.

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So these are all things people who are buying this car intend to use.

On Cheefarn's photos from SGCM, I still do not see bluetooth controls and dual-zone aircon. That looks 100% like manual single-zone to me.

Furthermore, it's labelled Elantra Elite in the review.

Your photo of your Elantra GLS furthermore also doesn't show bluetooth controls.

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Having seen your other posts, yes we get it, you love your Elantra and it's the better car than the Forte for everything...

But please, widen your mind - for everything you think is useless, there is someone who believes there is a genuine point to it.

For me, I would rather buy the well-equipped Forte SX-S than an Elantra Elite, because it has "$6k extra of things" that I will use.

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I am 1 of them who doesnt mind spending $6k extra for the features.

wa... you really need wash your eyes. i posted 4 picts of my steering wheel u still cant see. My steering wheel is the 1 with the red cover. you see the boytom left of the steering wheel have the ans and cancel call button. or you need a pict of my hu to see the phone button. As for the aircon please go google. the pict he posted is for gls model not elite. or please visit the show room for a test drive

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So these are all things people who are buying this car intend to use.
On Cheefarn's photos from SGCM, I still do not see bluetooth controls and dual-zone aircon. That looks 100% like manual single-zone to me.
Furthermore, it's labelled Elantra Elite in the review.
Your photo of your Elantra GLS furthermore also doesn't show bluetooth controls.
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Having seen your other posts, yes we get it, you love your Elantra and it's the better car than the Forte for everything...
But please, widen your mind - for everything you think is useless, there is someone who believes there is a genuine point to it.
For me, I would rather buy the well-equipped Forte SX-S than an Elantra Elite, because it has "$6k extra of things" that I will use.

wa... you really need wash your eyes. i posted 4 picts of my steering wheel u still cant see. My steering wheel is the 1 with the red cover. you see the boytom left of the steering wheel have the ans and cancel call button. or you need a pict of my hu to see the phone button. As for the aircon please go google. the pict he posted is for gls model not elite. or please visit the show room for a test drive
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No offence, we all know you own an Elantra and is proud of it. But choosing cars is more than just comparing feature to feature, there is also the design appeal and x-factor which varies from person to person. To be frank, Elantra was among my shortlist when I was looking for a new car late last year. The others were K3 and Mazda3. Design-wise, Mazda 3 was the best. It has the most conti look, both interior and exterior, with the right amount of curves without going overboard. It only lost out due to the low equipment/feature set and cramped rear. K3 is more spacious, has more premium features/equipment which I like and also a conti look although design is slightly lagging the Mazda 3. Elantra, on the other hand, seems to be over-designed, especially the front dash area. Too much curves on the central console and steering wheel, just make it looks weird, like some Japanese makes. Simplicity is key and that is what I like about K3. It helps that Kia got an ex-Audi designer to design their cars and the K3 interior has that more executive look. Just my personal opinion. Hope no offence.

wa... you really need wash your eyes. i posted 4 picts of my steering wheel u still cant see. My steering wheel is the 1 with the red cover. you see the boytom left of the steering wheel have the ans and cancel call button. or you need a pict of my hu to see the phone button. As for the aircon please go google. the pict he posted is for gls model not elite. or please visit the show room for a test drive
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sorry, i admit i missed the call/end call button.

But the last time I have gone to showroom the Elite did not have dual-zone controls. Have they changed the spec again, I have asked, time and time again, but nobody, including you, have confirmed.

From a neutral party. I would choose k3.

Just so much nicer.

Besides. No taxi

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No offence, we all know you own an Elantra and is proud of it. But choosing cars is more than just comparing feature to feature, there is also the design appeal and x-factor which varies from person to person. To be frank, Elantra was among my shortlist when I was looking for a new car late last year. The others were K3 and Mazda3. Design-wise, Mazda 3 was the best. It has the most conti look, both interior and exterior, with the right amount of curves without going overboard. It only lost out due to the low equipment/feature set and cramped rear. K3 is more spacious, has more premium features/equipment which I like and also a conti look although design is slightly lagging the Mazda 3. Elantra, on the other hand, seems to be over-designed, especially the front dash area. Too much curves on the central console and steering wheel, just make it looks weird, like some Japanese makes. Simplicity is key and that is what I like about K3. It helps that Kia got an ex-Audi designer to design their cars and the K3 interior has that more executive look. Just my personal opinion. Hope no offence.

The reason why I didn't get K3 nor Elantra as they are relatively poor in fuel consumption. This is a fact which you can't deny.

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How come your FC so good?
Mine very weird leh. It says 8.6/100km �on display (btw I did't reset it till date) got the car for like 2 months now i think.
BUT!! when i calculated from last pump to my next pump and the distance i travel it's actually worst than display leh!
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Am I am using 98 Zzzz really don't know what is wrong. Is it because my car is EX the rim smaller so FC lousier?
Most of time driving expressway =.= ok maybe 60% expressway �40% small road
FML

He did 80% highway, if I did that my FC would be 5.5km/l for accent 1.4 manual transmission.

The reason why I didn't get K3 nor Elantra as they are relatively poor in fuel consumption. This is a fact which you can't deny.

He did 80% highway, if I did that my FC would be 5.5km/l for accent 1.4 manual transmission.

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Yep, I do agree FC is poor in korean cars. My previous forte also has poor FC so I am already aware of this shortcoming. However, as my mileage is relatively low (around only 12000 km per year), how much can I save even if my FC improve by 1-2 l/km but having a car which I don't like the design or lacking in features/equipment which I want. I would rather forego the good FC but drive a car with a design I like.�

Wow your accent fc is not bad!

It's just my personal preference. If I were to choose solely base on fc car I would go for Mazda 3. Love the design.

I reset the display and now I'm getting 6.8/100km lol. But my manual calculation is far from this Leh

Not sure how you all manage to do that man...Freaking good for a Kimchi

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haha point in time nia.... these 2 days go around city, shopping malls and parent in law house all non highway. now the FC number become 10 liao hehe.....

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try resetting your trip meter and going on an expressway journey, should be able to see what the FC is like.

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if got shops willing to take in i also wanna know hehe....

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but most likely no one will want except for repair shops who will take in at very bad prices.... might as well keep as a spare in case our eurostyle kaputs?

K3 sports skirting/body kit on taobao for CNY630. not sure after shipping is how much hehe... Rear bumper kit looks odd though. will need to find another rear exhaust muffler to complete the "look". Plus wonder if the body kit for chinese k3 will fit on our Korean K3s

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I reset the gauge and got 7.8L/100km now.

20% city 80% highway. cruise control on highway within speed limit.

Edited by k3k3k3, 18 July 2015 - 05:32 PM.

K3 sports skirting/body kit on taobao for CNY630. not sure after shipping is how much hehe... Rear bumper kit looks odd though. will need to find another rear exhaust muffler to complete the "look". Plus wonder if the body kit for chinese k3 will fit on our Korean K3s
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The rear bumper sure looks funny lol

Chinese tail-lights look similar shape... except that this chrome strip they added cuts into the cluster

Chinese tail-lights look similar shape... except that this chrome strip they added cuts into the cluster

Really meh? Kind of feel that it looks different at the back. Doubt it can fit in the local K3.

The korean body kits cost an arm and a leg. Just the front or side skirting or small rear bumper skirting on the sides cost more than this entire set.

Maybe can buy the front and sides, look for other alternatives for the rear

Really meh? Kind of feel that it looks different at the back. Doubt it can fit in the local K3.

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yes, judging from picture, it won't fit. But if you remove the chrome strip, it is actually almost, if not the exact same shape, but the chrome strip "cuts" a portion out making the overall shape seem quite different.

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your 350 bucks is done at CNC? for what car? and yes he told me the same thing too. but he say need to take out the whole thing.

yes, it was done at C&C Pandan. They quoted higher. Then they gave me a discount when i went to collect the car. Nice gesture.

I reset the gauge and got 7.8L/100km now.

20% city 80% highway. cruise control on highway within speed limit.

Thanks for reporting in. Did you get the figure after running a full tank of gas?

yes, it was done at C&C Pandan. They quoted higher. Then they gave me a discount when i went to collect the car. Nice gesture.

Thanks for reporting in. Did you get the figure after running a full tank of gas?

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yeah, they initially quoted me 500. but later on its 350.

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yeah, they initially quoted me 500. but later on its 350.

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nice.

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I wonder if SX (non sports) owners wanted to install the body kit, how much would C&C charge.

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nice.

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I wonder if SX (non sports) owners wanted to install the body kit, how much would C&C charge.

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I was quoted $500 for the installation option

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I was quoted $500 for the installation option

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your's is already the SX sports right with the body kit thrown in right? you mean $500 less if you don't opt for the body kit?

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your's is already the SX sports right with the body kit thrown in right? you mean $500 less if you don't opt for the body kit?

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Yes. Mine is SX Sports. Be it I choose Sports, and opt out is $500 rebate. If choose non sports, to fix up also $500. Hope this clear the doubt� [laugh]

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Yes. Mine is SX Sports. Be it I choose Sports, and opt out is $500 rebate. If choose non sports, to fix up also $500. Hope this clear the doubt�

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ah thanks for the reply. perhaps worth asking C&C if this is an option for previous SX buyers.

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Yes. Mine is SX Sports. Be it I choose Sports, and opt out is $500 rebate. If choose non sports, to fix up also $500. Hope this clear the doubt�

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I wanna opt out but they kept telling me this cannot be done -_- .

The body kit you have pic? When u got your car? I feel like getting also....how long the installation

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I wanna opt out but they kept telling me this cannot be done .

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different sales person different standards i guess.... now my sales person is not replying me keke....sales done commission earned, don't care about customer liao.

The body kit you have pic? When u got your car? I feel like getting also....how long the installation

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search under his previous posts and you will be able to see images of his K3 sports with body kit.

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The body kit you have pic? When u got your car? I feel like getting also....how long the installation

http://www.mycarforu...k-in/?p=5532343

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Bodykit installed before Car collection. No waiting time.�

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different sales person different standards i guess.... now my sales person is not replying me keke....sales done commission earned, don't care about customer liao.

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search under his previous posts and you will be able to see images of his K3 sports with body kit.

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Ricleosg, I'm not sure if this is based on any "special" approval from the SA or maybe C&C management opens up this, as I'm one of the later batch of owners before the 1st July, to boost more sales. �But I must say he's reali professional, delivers to his words, and being 1 of the senior SA who has been working for a long time at Kia motors.

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