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Honda Vezel part 87

  • 25 October 2015 - 08:59 PM
    Vinzntonic

    New version. I doubt they will bother to use different spring. Maybe it's the 16 inch and 17 inch rims difference give the push down test feel a bit softer?

    Guess as much.. anyway how's the performance so far?? I getting mine next sunday.. very excited..


  • 25 October 2015 - 11:09 PM
    Vinzntonic

    Can reccomend any good sellers on Taobao for accessories, not looking for any form of chrome...


  • 26 October 2015 - 12:54 AM
    LYC

    Can reccomend any good sellers on Taobao for accessories, not looking for any form of chrome...

    I'm also looking at buying front deflector for the bonnet leh. Protect from the stone chips. Cant seem to find from Taobao.


  • 26 October 2015 - 01:05 AM
    Vinzntonic

    I'm also looking at buying front deflector for the bonnet leh. Protect from the stone chips. Cant seem to find from Taobao.

    How does it look like??

    Haha all the deflectors and garnish for boots and stuffs like new to me


  • 26 October 2015 - 10:08 AM
    Melvincyc

    Guess as much.. anyway how's the performance so far?? I getting mine next sunday.. very excited..

    The Vezel is a car that is best driven gently in a non hurried manner. It will cruise comfortably at speed up to about 100kmh.

    Stabbing the accelerator pedal may not be such a nice experience as the engine roar can be quite�intrusive into the cabin, as well as affect FC quite a bit. Being a CVT,�it doenst like aggressive acceleration anyway.

    I never drive with ECO mode as it really makes the throttle response super retarded, even slower than a Picanto.

    I wish the sound insulation could be better. You can even hear the motobike across the roads at times. Honda claims the Vezel is built with superior insulation for comfort and quietness....i really quite baffled by this claim though..

    Mix driving FC is about 14-15 kml for me. If pure expressway in good traffic,� 20kml is achievable. I have seen as high as 23kml in a 25km commute whichi tested out.

    Tyre pressure is super important because the Vezel suspension is by nature "sporty" and not so comfort biased. I am now on 220F/210R kpa. I have tried all combinations and the recommended KPA feels best. Even just 10 more KPA makes it uncomforatable for me.. maybe partly�cause of�my bigger 17 inches�rims (less air gap). First thing when u receive your car is let out some air.�It will arrive with over 300kpa as they overpumped to cater to loss�in transit and storage.

    Congrats and enjoy your new car!


  • 26 October 2015 - 10:37 AM
    BenChoo69

    I'm also looking at buying front deflector for the bonnet leh. Protect from the stone chips. Cant seem to find from Taobao.

    Hi Bro, you looking for deflector on bonnet or skid plates?


  • 26 October 2015 - 10:58 AM
    Stooky

    Send my Vezel for 1st servicing and chatted with a malay uncle who bought from the same PI as me. He even faster than me sia, collected his Vezel 18 days after booking! haha


  • 26 October 2015 - 11:04 AM
    Ev0smok3d

    Hi guys. New vezel owner here. Just got my vezel 2 days ago. However. I am clocking around 9km/l. So much different from advertised. I am driving on econ mode and have only driven 100km. Any advise will help thanks!

    FC will improve after 1st svc. likely to due to the engine oil I suppose. my sis colleague clock 15/l after he went for svc, initial he also managed 9-10/l also.


  • 26 October 2015 - 11:31 AM
    Dgeralds
    Hi rstopel

    Are you doing your own import for the for the fun of it or have plans to kick it off as a business later? It seems to make business sense to start off slowly and gain reputation gradually. Im sure there will be a market if the dealings are transparent with just one popular model to start off....and sell it as wysiwyg (what you see is what you get) without any add ons or accedsories with a reasonsble margin for seller and saving for buyers.

    If you have such concept please drop me a PM and we could explore further.

    Thank you.


    So far not much to share. Vezel S took 2 month to finish. Now preparing for shipment. Hope to share some photos soon. Waiting for docs so my agent can do custom declaration and pay 20%.

    Keep you all posted.


    Edited by Dgeralds, 26 October 2015 - 11:32 AM.

  • 26 October 2015 - 06:09 PM
    Wagari
    Hi guys. Thanks for all the answers. Update on my car after 250km. From 9km/l, it hop up to 12km/l. Hoping for more great results!
  • 26 October 2015 - 06:17 PM
    chinpokomon

    don't know if other vezel owners experience this..

    X model, 2000km mileage so far.

    when I go over humps, I can hear a slight "squish squish" sound from the front suspension, as I go up and down the hump.

    am I being too sensitive or what?

    any potential problems here?


  • 26 October 2015 - 07:55 PM
    LYC

    Hi Bro, you looking for deflector on bonnet or skid plates?

    Deflector on the bonnet. Its just that piece of plastic. If not my bonnet for previous ride a lot of stone chips due to the roads i travel.


  • 26 October 2015 - 08:14 PM
    Vinzntonic

    don't know if other vezel owners experience this..

    X model, 2000km mileage so far.

    when I go over humps, I can hear a slight "squish squish" sound from the front suspension, as I go up and down the hump.

    am I being too sensitive or what?

    any potential problems here?

    Sounds like your suspension issue.. i only have it in my vios.. but that's after like 9yrs of driving it..


    The Vezel is a car that is best driven gently in a non hurried manner. It will cruise comfortably at speed up to about 100kmh.

    Stabbing the accelerator pedal may not be such a nice experience as the engine roar can be quite�intrusive into the cabin, as well as affect FC quite a bit. Being a CVT,�it doenst like aggressive acceleration anyway.

    I never drive with ECO mode as it really makes the throttle response super retarded, even slower than a Picanto.

    I wish the sound insulation could be better. You can even hear the motobike across the roads at times. Honda claims the Vezel is built with superior insulation for comfort and quietness....i really quite baffled by this claim though..

    Mix driving FC is about 14-15 kml for me. If pure expressway in good traffic,� 20kml is achievable. I have seen as high as 23kml in a 25km commute whichi tested out.

    Tyre pressure is super important because the Vezel suspension is by nature "sporty" and not so comfort biased. I am now on 220F/210R kpa. I have tried all combinations and the recommended KPA feels best. Even just 10 more KPA makes it uncomforatable for me.. maybe partly�cause of�my bigger 17 inches�rims (less air gap). First thing when u receive your car is let out some air.�It will arrive with over 300kpa as they overpumped to cater to loss�in transit and storage.

    Congrats and enjoy your new car!

    TBH, i'm driving EK3 now.. so insulation not much of an issue to me.. haha my engine and exhaust roars louder, i'm more sensitive to the squeaky sounds and other hinge noise..

    I heard about the eco mode.. so will avoid unless travelling long dist..

    How about the paddle shift? Does it lag?

    I'm driving 50% time with quite a load behind, you think its ok for 220 front n back for tyres?


  • 27 October 2015 - 04:59 PM
    Hans912

    pm done.

    Appreciated if could pm me too. thanks.


  • 27 October 2015 - 05:07 PM
    Axela72

    Hi,

    There are so many PI that selling this car, any recommandation for top/best and trusted PI that I can approach? What is the typical discount we can bargin for PI's car?

    Ty


  • 27 October 2015 - 06:44 PM
    dragonforce

    For a reasonably fair and competent PI, the price should range between $110k to $114k,�I think.�


  • 27 October 2015 - 06:49 PM
    Blackyv

    For a reasonably fair and competent PI, the price should range between $110k to $114k,�I think.�

    x model or s model?


  • 27 October 2015 - 07:01 PM
    dragonforce

    x model or s model?

    X model


  • 27 October 2015 - 07:37 PM
    chinpokomon

    Sounds like your suspension issue.. i only have it in my vios.. but that's after like 9yrs of driving it..


    I know its from the suspension.

    The question is whether or not the squish sound is an issue..

    I just hope its cos im being sensitive to whatever noises the new car makes.
  • 27 October 2015 - 07:51 PM
    Pioneer

    Hahaha.. I thought you dislike PI and Honda ?

    Wah... You open a thread talk about forester, C4 and QQ now want to buy Vezel.� [dizzy][dizzy]

    Best one should try Auto*ink or VinC*r la. But if I recommend one, you dare to believe?� [:p][:p]

    Hi,

    There are so many PI that selling this car, any recommandation for top/best and trusted PI that I can approach? What is the typical discount we can bargin for PI's car?

    Ty


    Edited by Pioneer, 27 October 2015 - 07:53 PM.

  • 27 October 2015 - 10:12 PM
    Axela72

    No choice as non is perfect and I can't leave w/o a car. So that would be my last resort.

    I probably do a test drive on� HRV 1st to check whether I can accept the handling before decide to check whether yr recommend PI has my prefer colour�car on stock and�guarantee COE. Ty

    Hahaha.. I thought you dislike PI and Honda ?

    Wah... You open a thread talk about forester, C4 and QQ now want to buy Vezel.� [dizzy][dizzy]

    Best one should try Auto*ink or VinC*r la. But if I recommend one, you dare to believe?� [:p][:p]


  • 27 October 2015 - 11:29 PM
    wtiong

    Appreciated if could pm me too. thanks.

    PM done


  • 27 October 2015 - 11:35 PM
    Axela72

    PM me too. Ty

    PM done


  • 28 October 2015 - 02:01 AM
    Vinzntonic

    I know its from the suspension.

    The question is whether or not the squish sound is an issue..

    I just hope its cos im being sensitive to whatever noises the new car makes.

    I think you better bring it to the workshop..


  • 28 October 2015 - 08:12 AM
    Cwengkee

    Please PM me your PI contact too. �Thanks!

    PM done


  • 28 October 2015 - 09:40 AM
    Pocus

    Hahaha.. I thought you dislike PI and Honda ?

    Wah... You open a thread talk about forester, C4 and QQ now want to buy Vezel.� [dizzy][dizzy]

    Best one should try Auto*ink or VinC*r la. But if I recommend one, you dare to believe?� [:p][:p]

    I seconded VinC*r.

    Not the cheapest in town but the coy is already around for decades hence they have a solid workprocess & experience. Many colleagues bought cars from them over the years with praises.

    No I do not have a SE in VinC*r to recommend as I don't work for them.


  • 28 October 2015 - 09:50 AM
    Pocus

    No choice as non is perfect and I can't leave w/o a car. So that would be my last resort.

    I probably do a test drive on� HRV 1st to check whether I can accept the handling before decide to check whether yr recommend PI has my prefer colour�car on stock and�guarantee COE. Ty

    Have you actually testdrove that rest of the cars you shortlisted or you only talk talk?

    For someone who don't even want to modify the hifi system of your new car and is particular about the color of your new car, going PI and choosing the Vezel defies whatever requirement you just said earlier on in previous thread. Cos the first thing they do is to ripped off you car to fix the hifi and speakers. And goodluck reading Japanese notification/instructions, if that's doesn't bother you.

    Thanks for wasting everyone's time helping you decided and giving you suggestions on your shortlisted car..

    Yes I'm pissed, cos my initial posts to you (in the forester thread)�is genuinely wanting to help you decided the best car for you and in the end you bring a whole lot of us in a merry go round wild goose chase back to square one.

    This will be my last post to you on buying cars.


  • 28 October 2015 - 09:51 AM
    Nlatio

    Any more feedback from Bro here on the Vezel?

    Most would have driven for a while now, any teething problem encounter?? Power Lost issue like the Nissan QQ Gate saga...� [:p]


  • 28 October 2015 - 10:08 AM
    Tokko

    When I bought my Vezel S in March, it was at $116,888 and my bidded COE was $66,000.

    The Vezel X then was hovering between $106k to $112k depending on package, loan, etc.

    No wonder most buyers buy Vezel X now and not many PI bringing in Vezel S...really not worth if Vezel S is between 4k to 8k more than Vezel X.

    On a separate note, many people remark that Vezel is not a fast car which I agree.

    But if you know how to accelerate to the right RPM for CVT, the Vezel has a pretty good pickup too.

    The trick is to accelerate at 2.5k to 3k RPM....this range is the best for picking up during low speed....anything more will usually induce engine roar.

    I got to know this when driving my Nissan Latio Sport as it is also on CVT too.


  • 28 October 2015 - 10:10 AM
    Wiiuwii

    Anyone bought your own side step in from taobao? Will the shipping be based on volumetric since it's so long?


  • 28 October 2015 - 10:42 AM
    Melvincyc
    Agreed on this PI. My salesperson is still responding to my queries promptly even after sale. Actually price is perfectly reasonable and totally transparent. COE secured with no delay.

    I dun even wan to try my luck with some ah Beng like PI.

    I seconded VinC*r.

    Not the cheapest in town but the coy is already around for decades hence they have a solid workprocess & experience. Many colleagues bought cars from them over the years with praises.

    No I do not have a SE in VinC*r to recommend as I don't work for them.


    Edited by Melvincyc, 28 October 2015 - 10:47 AM.

  • 28 October 2015 - 10:50 AM
    iamzz

    Hi fellow vezelers,

    My ride is due for its 1K service... what is the recommended EO to use? I read some said w30 but others claimed w40. Also what other things will the workshop do for 1K service?

    Any advice is appreciated. Tks! :)


  • 28 October 2015 - 11:14 AM
    Djcoolmax

    Hi fellow vezelers,

    My ride is due for its 1K service... what is the recommended EO to use? I read some said w30 but others claimed w40. Also what other things will the workshop do for 1K service?

    Any advice is appreciated. Tks! :)

    most AD workshops will do w40.

    w30 is "lighter" so better fuel economy... go for w30 if you can.�


  • 28 October 2015 - 11:21 AM
    Axela72

    Yes, I have tested drive all of them. All car must pass�my minimum handling required before it can become my shortlist. [:)]

    As I mentioned somewhere in another thread, due to other other forumer recommendation, Vezel is my last resort if the previous shortlist CMI.

    I am just start to explore this alternative as this car�is equivalent to QQ minus aways the power loss issue.�Although I�have to forgo my prejudice against Honda badge.

    I do appreciate your valuable input in my thread for my previous�shortlist consideration and here again on Vezel. I didn't know that this car defies my previous requirement e.g. speaker, Japanese words�until your hightlight here.

    ty

    Have you actually testdrove that rest of the cars you shortlisted or you only talk talk?

    For someone who don't even want to modify the hifi system of your new car and is particular about the color of your new car, going PI and choosing the Vezel defies whatever requirement you just said earlier on in previous thread. Cos the first thing they do is to ripped off you car to fix the hifi and speakers. And goodluck reading Japanese notification/instructions, if that's doesn't bother you.

    Thanks for wasting everyone's time helping you decided and giving you suggestions on your shortlisted car..

    Yes I'm pissed, cos my initial posts to you (in the forester thread)�is genuinely wanting to help you decided the best car for you and in the end you bring a whole lot of us in a merry go round wild goose chase back to square one.

    This will be my last post to you on buying cars.


  • 28 October 2015 - 11:28 AM
    Wiiuwii

    Hi fellow vezelers,

    My ride is due for its 1K service... what is the recommended EO to use? I read some said w30 but others claimed w40. Also what other things will the workshop do for 1K service?

    Any advice is appreciated. Tks! :)

    Do we not have to stick to the PI's authorized workshop for routine servicing?


  • 28 October 2015 - 11:46 AM
    Ben5266

    When I bought my Vezel S in March, it was at $116,888 and my bidded COE was $66,000.

    The Vezel X then was hovering between $106k to $112k depending on package, loan, etc.

    No wonder most buyers buy Vezel X now and not many PI bringing in Vezel S...really not worth if Vezel S is between 4k to 8k more than Vezel X.

    On a separate note, many people remark that Vezel is not a fast car which I agree.

    But if you know how to accelerate to the right RPM for CVT, the Vezel has a pretty good pickup too.

    The trick is to accelerate at 2.5k to 3k RPM....this range is the best for picking up during low speed....anything more will usually induce engine roar.

    I got to know this when driving my Nissan Latio Sport as it is also on CVT too.

    Your Vezel has iVtec right?

    Try revv to 4k RPM....

    Vtec open.... song!� [thumbsup]

    Latio does not have.... only engine noise.

    But don't complain FC bad hor...


  • 28 October 2015 - 01:22 PM
    Tokko

    Your Vezel has iVtec right?

    Try revv to 4k RPM....

    Vtec open.... song!� [thumbsup]

    Latio does not have.... only engine noise.

    But don't complain FC bad hor...

    Hahaha thanks bro for the recommendation.

    My car registered on 26th June and till date my mileage is only about 3300 km....will start to go all out after 6,000 km as I read online that fully run in period is after 6,000 km.

    The CVT between Latio and Vezel damn different, as you mention that Latio only has engine noise but Vezel also a bit noisy but at least the speed climbs up so much faster.

    FC bad I can accept as I don't travel a lot due to working in CBD area and cannot get building parking hehe.


  • 28 October 2015 - 03:01 PM
    KoreanLover

    I recently "test drove" a friend's Vezel and it seems decently powered.

    I like both the interior and exterior of the car except for it's dated gear shift knob.�

    Any bros did any change to that?


  • 28 October 2015 - 08:19 PM
    JJaassoonn

    Hi,

    There are so many PI that selling this car, any recommandation for top/best and trusted PI that I can approach? What is the typical discount we can bargin for PI's car?

    Ty

    SMART***ARS BOU***UE promise on delivery date


    Edited by JJaassoonn, 28 October 2015 - 08:28 PM.

  • 28 October 2015 - 09:16 PM
    7hm

    Yes, I have tested drive all of them. All car must pass�my minimum handling required before it can become my shortlist. [:)]

    As I mentioned somewhere in another thread, due to other other forumer recommendation, Vezel is my last resort if the previous shortlist CMI.

    I am just start to explore this alternative as this car�is equivalent to QQ minus aways the power loss issue.�Although I�have to forgo my prejudice against Honda badge.

    I do appreciate your valuable input in my thread for my previous�shortlist consideration and here again on Vezel. I didn't know that this car defies my previous requirement e.g. speaker, Japanese words�until your hightlight here.

    ty

    To elaborate, Vezel is a Japanese domestic market car - i.e. it is intended only for sale in Japan. Hence its user manual, onboard menu, information displays, etc., have Japanese text. (Not a huge hindrance for most common things because the symbols or some stuff is still in ENG)

    However, a common trend among PIs here is ordering the cars with no audio system, or at least no audio head unit. Almost all Vezels here do not come with the original Honda sound system, same goes for, say, Toyota Harrier, the other popular PI SUV.

    The factory speakers may come with the car, but if you want a manufacturer original sound system, you should forget about buying a PI car. And sometimes PI don't even keep to their word regarding installation of a head unit for you.

    There have been some MCFers who have collected their PI car only to find the double-DIN slot empty, despite the PI agreeing to have it installed.


  • 28 October 2015 - 09:34 PM
    Axela72

    So the 110k+ price come without the HU/ audio systems? I was still trying to�locate how many speaker car has.We have to install the HU off the line? This will be a con then :(

    SE from KM told me that PI Vezel can only take back 3k+ after 10 years due CEVS rebate while their HRV can take back 11k. Is that true? ty

    To elaborate, Vezel is a Japanese domestic market car - i.e. it is intended only for sale in Japan. Hence its user manual, onboard menu, information displays, etc., have Japanese text. (Not a huge hindrance for most common things because the symbols or some stuff is still in ENG)

    However, a common trend among PIs here is ordering the cars with no audio system, or at least no audio head unit. Almost all Vezels here do not come with the original Honda sound system, same goes for, say, Toyota Harrier, the other popular PI SUV.

    The factory speakers may come with the car, but if you want a manufacturer original sound system, you should forget about buying a PI car. And sometimes PI don't even keep to their word regarding installation of a head unit for you.

    There have been some MCFers who have collected their PI car only to find the double-DIN slot empty, despite the PI agreeing to have it installed.


    Edited by Axela72, 28 October 2015 - 09:37 PM.

  • 28 October 2015 - 09:34 PM
    Vinzntonic

    Just to check, XRV items from CHINA fits Vezel?? Ordering stuffs from Taobao.. but dun dare order certain XRV items...


  • 28 October 2015 - 10:13 PM
    7hm

    So the 110k+ price come without the HU/ audio systems? I was still trying to�locate how many speaker car has.We have to install the HU off the line? This will be a con then :(

    SE from KM told me that PI Vezel can only take back 3k+ after 10 years due CEVS rebate while their HRV can take back 11k. Is that true? ty

    I believe most PI will include a certain head unit (i think many are offering Pioneer 8750 or similar) with the purchase price, but Vezel usually have 4 speaker for lower trim or maybe 6 speakers on the higher trims. Usually the PI is supposed to have the head unit installed for you before you collect your car from them. In its own way, PI car are also better for audio-freaks as the aftermarket head unit means it is easier for a workshop to do custom audio.

    Vezel has a CEVS advantage due to PI being allowed to declare lower emissions level or something like that (I think it's some LTA rule), so yes, Vezel has a lower ARF and thus lower PARF rebate. But Vezel however also have generally lower OMV of about 5~6k less (don't ask me how, since Vezel is clearly the better equipped car...), so combined with higher CEVS, its ARF and PARF are really much lower than HR-V.

    But Vezels are also being offered at a much lower price than HR-V, so do your math and consider it if you want to.

    But if good factory sound system is seriously such a priority for you, best look elsewhere. I think I have suggested Peugeot 308SW to you before? I find that car's sound quality appreciably good, even if it is not very high tier.

    Ford Mondeo 1.5L also has the same 9.0 speakers Sony sound system as the 2.0L. I am personally dissatisfied with its treble and the mid-range is a little dull imho, but it is still a good system in its price class. But Mondeo I suppose is not in your intended price range or body class.

    Maybe you could look at Volvo V4 cross-country. I have heard good things about Volvo's sound systems. But Volvo is also in the premium price range.


    Edited by 7hm, 28 October 2015 - 10:15 PM.

  • 28 October 2015 - 10:32 PM
    Baal

    In a way yes.� Due to CEVS.�

    B4 July,� Jazz co2, 127mcg.� Gets 10k rebate.� OMV 15K+.� So at 10th year.� 15-10 = 5.� 5 divide by 2 only left 2.5+k.

    HRV...though City engine, but is tune for more low-mid torque compared to City.� So emmision, instead of city's 135mcg is instead 150+ mcg, iirc. = no rebate, post July.� So at 10th year, = ~20k omv divide 2, u get 10k.

    also the mobilio (using the same city engine), for similar reasons...the co2 is 145+ mcg.�� = no rebate post July.

    Jazz (post July) only gets 5k cev rebate, iinw.

    So to confirm, check for the co2 emmision of the Vz & then compare against cev chart.� iinw, 121-135mcg is 5k.� xxx - 120mcg is 10k rebate.�


  • 29 October 2015 - 09:44 AM
    Penknife

    However, a common trend among PIs here is ordering the cars with no audio system, or at least no audio head unit. Almost all Vezels here do not come with the original Honda sound system, same goes for, say, Toyota Harrier, the other popular PI SUV.

    from what i know, the reason why it doesnt come with it is because the FM frequency is different from singapore.

    Some sort like the old JDM accord i believe.�


  • 29 October 2015 - 09:54 AM
    Speed_ong
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  • 29 October 2015 - 10:16 AM
    Yong81

    Just to check, XRV items from CHINA fits Vezel?? Ordering stuffs from Taobao.. but dun dare order certain XRV items...

    hi,

    I think they are the same model, the only thing is that XRV in china is left hand drive. so depend on what you order�sometime the orientation is opposite. someone correct me if I am wrong. thanks.


  • 29 October 2015 - 11:14 AM
    Cantina

    To elaborate, Vezel is a Japanese domestic market car - i.e. it is intended only for sale in Japan. Hence its user manual, onboard menu, information displays, etc., have Japanese text. (Not a huge hindrance for most common things because the symbols or some stuff is still in ENG)

    However, a common trend among PIs here is ordering the cars with no audio system, or at least no audio head unit. Almost all Vezels here do not come with the original Honda sound system, same goes for, say, Toyota Harrier, the other popular PI SUV.

    The factory speakers may come with the car, but if you want a manufacturer original sound system, you should forget about buying a PI car. And sometimes PI don't even keep to their word regarding installation of a head unit for you.

    There have been some MCFers who have collected their PI car only to find the double-DIN slot empty, despite the PI agreeing to have it installed.

    No only that, Vezel got no steering buttons to control the sound system cos it's not factory fitted.

    HRV better cos sound system is factory fitted and got buttons on steering. But the sound quality is "-_-.

    I think he can decide how good is the quality himself ba


  • 29 October 2015 - 11:33 AM
    Tahir_turk

    Any comment on this Honda Vezel ? Looks similar to Toyota Rav4 in terms of physical shape. Only bad thing is that it falls under Cat B category. haiz....�

    I have no idea, im intending buy a new�Honda HRV 2016. But i think this review is lack of something. How do you think?


    Edited by Tahir_turk, 29 October 2015 - 11:34 AM.

  • 29 October 2015 - 12:43 PM
    Akszaksz

    from what i read over 6 months in forum, various FB pages and chatting with SE from PI & KM. Some conclusion i found:

    People who bought HR-V:

    - Don't feel safe to buy from PI.

    - Die die must avoid PI, and get from AD. (Mostly uncle auntie)

    - Do not know the difference between hr-v & vezel. And thought that specs is the same. (Just go to KM, try & see whether the SE will tell u vezel is DOHC HRV is SOHC, LED vs Halogen, many other features cruise control etc.)

    - Probably more hassle-free when comes to servicing or maintenance with AD's workshop

    - Believe in higher resale value for AD cars vs PI cars.

    People who bought vezel over HR-V:

    - Want the better spec & features,

    - Some say faster with higher bhp.

    - Much cheaper than HR-V, but takes risk buying from PI. (Finds HR-V overpriced for the spec)

    - Take risk with workshop assigned by the PI.

    - Better FC, more airbags

    - made in Japan, not Thai

    End of the day, do homework, buy something within your comfort zone.

    Both are good cars =)


  • 29 October 2015 - 01:54 PM
    7hm

    I have no idea, im intending buy a new�Honda HRV 2016. But i think this review is lack of something. How do you think?

    Vezel have almost no reviews at all because it is JDM model. Reviewers in other countries are only provided with the HR-V for review.


  • 29 October 2015 - 01:57 PM
    Wt_know

    AD HRV specs cannot make it ... period.

    if HRV specs were as good as Vezel ... PI can eat grass liao ...

    .

    .

    .

    watch out for incoming Mazda CX-3 ... to compete with HRV/Vezel ;)


    Edited by Wt_know, 29 October 2015 - 01:58 PM.

  • 29 October 2015 - 02:19 PM
    Fuelsaver

    I believe most PI will include a certain head unit (i think many are offering Pioneer 8750 or similar) with the purchase price, but Vezel usually have 4 speaker for lower trim or maybe 6 speakers on the higher trims. Usually the PI is supposed to have the head unit installed for you before you collect your car from them. In its own way, PI car are also better for audio-freaks as the aftermarket head unit means it is easier for a workshop to do custom audio.

    Vezel has a CEVS advantage due to PI being allowed to declare lower emissions level or something like that (I think it's some LTA rule), so yes, Vezel has a lower ARF and thus lower PARF rebate. But Vezel however also have generally lower OMV of about 5~6k less (don't ask me how, since Vezel is clearly the better equipped car...), so combined with higher CEVS, its ARF and PARF are really much lower than HR-V.

    But Vezels are also being offered at a much lower price than HR-V, so do your math and consider it if you want to.

    But if good factory sound system is seriously such a priority for you, best look elsewhere. I think I have suggested Peugeot 308SW to you before? I find that car's sound quality appreciably good, even if it is not very high tier.

    Ford Mondeo 1.5L also has the same 9.0 speakers Sony sound system as the 2.0L. I am personally dissatisfied with its treble and the mid-range is a little dull imho, but it is still a good system in its price class. But Mondeo I suppose is not in your intended price range or body class.

    Maybe you could look at Volvo V4 cross-country. I have heard good things about Volvo's sound systems. But Volvo is also in the premium price range.

    bro, i don't think anyone will pay premium for more premium car for the sake of good sound system, unless oredi considering that range of cars. personally, for B&B range, i'm of the opinion that mz3 sound system is reasonably competent in terms of clarity, staging and balance. even mpv like mz5 n wish cmi (mayb not the wish in japan w 10 spkr option).

    wan better (or supposedly better) sound, go the ICE route. but be warned that it'll b hassle to demod when one's gonna sell ride, unless sell together.


  • 29 October 2015 - 02:31 PM
    7hm

    bro, i don't think anyone will pay premium for more premium car for the sake of good sound system, unless oredi considering that range of cars. personally, for B&B range, i'm of the opinion that mz3 sound system is reasonably competent in terms of clarity, staging and balance. even mpv like mz5 n wish cmi (mayb not the wish in japan w 10 spkr option).

    wan better (or supposedly better) sound, go the ICE route. but be warned that it'll b hassle to demod when one's gonna sell ride, unless sell together.

    I won't comment on Mz3's speaker system since that time i tested briefly (less than five minutes) with the radio. So far seems to be a lot of complaints about its radio reception.

    Frankly though in axela72's price range the Forester XT that they were considering has one of the stronger audio systems for the money.

    Really depends on individual I guess. Some cannot live without good sound system in car because they maybe don't care so much about car things in a car, just want some good music to alleviate the journey. Some models in the B&B tier have surprisingly good system too... for others, having good speakers is simply icing on the cake.


  • 29 October 2015 - 02:49 PM
    Fuelsaver

    I won't comment on Mz3's speaker system since that time i tested briefly (less than five minutes) with the radio. So far seems to be a lot of complaints about its radio reception.

    Frankly though in axela72's price range the Forester XT that they were considering has one of the stronger audio systems for the money.

    Really depends on individual I guess. Some cannot live without good sound system in car because they maybe don't care so much about car things in a car, just want some good music to alleviate the journey. Some models in the B&B tier have surprisingly good system too... for others, having good speakers is simply icing on the cake.

    radio excepted; i tried w mp3 & cd on ex-colleague mz3. XT sound system very competent imho. volvo v40 too cramped (can't enjoy good sound when trying 2b comfortably seated) at xt price.

    u know of other B&B rides that oredi came w good sound system?


    i only know kia, vw, hyundai - usually mid range above ones.


  • 29 October 2015 - 03:01 PM
    7hm

    radio excepted; i tried w mp3 & cd on ex-colleague mz3. XT sound system very competent imho. volvo v40 too cramped (can't enjoy good sound when trying 2b comfortably seated) at xt price.

    u know of other B&B rides that oredi came w good sound system?


    i only know kia, vw, hyundai - usually mid range above ones.

    Ya. KIA and Hyundai are known for engineering their own no-brand systems which are surprisingly good. In the sub 120k range, as I mention, I was satisfied with the Peugeot 308's. Six speakers with reasonable presentation. Not really sure what else since I haven't really tested a lot of cars' speakers.


  • 29 October 2015 - 03:05 PM
    Axela72

    I feel that I can still live with the 6 speaker sound systems from the test drive HRV. I didn't know that their basis model come with only 4 speaker. Not to mention what kind of sound systems provided by the PI.

    I only made use of the steering wheel�to�control the sound and selection of music, other buttons on the steering wheel is redundant to me. If this not able to do so, this is kind of suck :(

    No only that, Vezel got no steering buttons to control the sound system cos it's not factory fitted.

    HRV better cos sound system is factory fitted and got buttons on steering. But the sound quality is "-_-.

    I think he can decide how good is the quality himself ba


  • 29 October 2015 - 03:50 PM
    Axela72

    I feel that I can still live with the 6 speaker sound systems from the test drive HRV. I didn't know that their basis model come with only 4 speaker until I read their spec. Not to mention what kind of sound systems provided by the PI.

    I only made use of the steering wheel�to�control the sound and selection of music, other buttons on the steering wheel is redundant to me. If this not able to do so, this is kind of suck :(


  • 29 October 2015 - 05:10 PM
    Yamapi

    No only that, Vezel got no steering buttons to control the sound system cos it's not factory fitted.

    HRV better cos sound system is factory fitted and got buttons on steering. But the sound quality is "-_-.

    I think he can decide how good is the quality himself ba

    Just collected my silver Vezel. Comes factory fitted with steering audio control buttons. I was told the steering audio control now comes as a standard item


    Edited by Yamapi, 29 October 2015 - 05:11 PM.

  • 29 October 2015 - 05:27 PM
    Axela72

    If a Mazda6 2L can get at 116k, will you get a Vezel or Mazda�6? Why? Ty


  • 29 October 2015 - 05:48 PM
    Cantina

    Just collected my silver Vezel. Comes factory fitted with steering audio control buttons. I was told the steering audio control now comes as a standard item

    Also depends on�PI whether the HU they give is compatible�with the buttons or not.

    It's not 100% from wat I know.

    poh heng sway your PI give,,,


  • 29 October 2015 - 05:53 PM
    Cantina

    If a Mazda6 2L can get at 116k, will you get a Vezel or Mazda�6? Why? Ty

    If I�choose, It's M6. But it's my taste. Bigger, more powerful, more chio, not draggy CVT, more luxurious inside. The sound also better.

    The HRV and Vezel is just a taller Jazz, more�for first time buyers,

    I testdrive the HRV, feel�less power�than my current Avante, material also so so..

    now car already cao cao, above 100k of course buy the better one.

    But Mazda 6 got 116k so cheap meh??


    Edited by Cantina, 29 October 2015 - 05:56 PM.

  • 29 October 2015 - 07:07 PM
    X5actor
    I'm surprised! Mazda6 is now selling at 116K?!
  • 29 October 2015 - 07:43 PM
    Axela72

    the list price is 130k. read from some post�there is 10k discount for those 30 units that used to ferry those tennis player. so mean 120k. trade in car get another additional 3k + 1k for current mazda owner loh

    I'm surprised! Mazda6 is now selling at 116K?!


  • 29 October 2015 - 07:49 PM
    Axela72

    The HRV and Vezel is just a taller Jazz, more�for first time buyers,

    I testdrive the HRV, feel�less power�than my current Avante, material also so so..

    now car already cao cao, above 100k of course buy the better one.

    But Mazda 6 got 116k so cheap meh??

    If Vezel/HRV is for 1st time buyer, does that mean Qashqai is also under the same category?


  • 29 October 2015 - 07:51 PM
    X5actor
    What?! They dropped price until like that ah!!

    I was offered a $10K discount for the Mazda6 event (WTA) car which was selling at $142,888 in Sept 2015. The SE quoted me $132,888 after discount and assured a below 2,000KM mileage and delivery of the car before end of Nov 2015.

    And now it's $116K?
  • 29 October 2015 - 09:02 PM
    Fuelsaver

    Ya. KIA and Hyundai are known for engineering their own no-brand systems which are surprisingly good. In the sub 120k range, as I mention, I was satisfied with the Peugeot 308's. Six speakers with reasonable presentation. Not really sure what else since I haven't really tested a lot of cars' speakers.

    really gotta hand in to the koreans. the frequency sensitivity kinda exceeded my prev amp-ed setup with some musical / synthesizing instrument that may only be heard at a louder volume setting in the latter. twas then i thot i should try to leave sound system alone if i get another new ride.

    just came to my mind another 2 makes - suzuki also have decent sound (from s-cross), &. nissan sylphy sig series prev has pioneer spkr n act subwoofer as part of sig package.


  • 29 October 2015 - 09:27 PM
    Kohanson
    Wow, 116k is really cheap for Mazda6. Back to the topic, I still like the vezel which has the colour shifting blue.
  • 29 October 2015 - 10:10 PM
    Axela72

    err, my calculation is based on current 130k list price. Probably during your time, the list price might be 142k bah. Nevertheless, good lobang wont last. All car have been taken up [laugh]

    What?! They dropped price until like that ah!!

    I was offered a $10K discount for the Mazda6 event (WTA) car which was selling at $142,888 in Sept 2015. The SE quoted me $132,888 after discount and assured a below 2,000KM mileage and delivery of the car before end of Nov 2015.

    And now it's $116K?


  • 29 October 2015 - 10:23 PM
    Throttle2

    I believe most PI will include a certain head unit (i think many are offering Pioneer 8750 or similar) with the purchase price, but Vezel usually have 4 speaker for lower trim or maybe 6 speakers on the higher trims. Usually the PI is supposed to have the head unit installed for you before you collect your car from them. In its own way, PI car are also better for audio-freaks as the aftermarket head unit means it is easier for a workshop to do custom audio.

    Vezel has a CEVS advantage due to PI being allowed to declare lower emissions level or something like that (I think it's some LTA rule), so yes, Vezel has a lower ARF and thus lower PARF rebate. But Vezel however also have generally lower OMV of about 5~6k less (don't ask me how, since Vezel is clearly the better equipped car...), so combined with higher CEVS, its ARF and PARF are really much lower than HR-V.

    But Vezels are also being offered at a much lower price than HR-V, so do your math and consider it if you want to.


    But if good factory sound system is seriously such a priority for you, best look elsewhere. I think I have suggested Peugeot 308SW to you before? I find that car's sound quality appreciably good, even if it is not very high tier.
    Ford Mondeo 1.5L also has the same 9.0 speakers Sony sound system as the 2.0L. I am personally dissatisfied with its treble and the mid-range is a little dull imho, but it is still a good system in its price class. But Mondeo I suppose is not in your intended price range or body class.
    Maybe you could look at Volvo V4 cross-country. I have heard good things about Volvo's sound systems. But Volvo is also in the premium price range.


    Thats true, Especially for Jap car, better to have custom head unit, easy to replace and upgrade.

    My car has a Bose sound system which is very good, but i listen to Radio and the same 7 cds over and over again, hahah....
  • 29 October 2015 - 10:33 PM
    Darryl

    err, my calculation is based on current 130k list price. Probably during your time, the list price might be 142k bah. Nevertheless, good lobang wont last. All car have been taken up [laugh]


    Axela72, u very funny leh. If you knew all such cars have been sold then why still ask a quesfion: 'If a Mazda6 2L can get at 116k, will you get a Vezel or Mazda�6? Why? Ty'

    no point to ask since the cars already sold mah. Ask for fun meh. Not practical anymore mah. Have you decided on a car? I remembered you have been looking around for months?
  • 29 October 2015 - 10:37 PM
    Throttle2

    the list price is 130k. read from some post there is 10k discount for those 30 units that used to ferry those tennis player. so mean 120k. trade in car get another additional 3k + 1k for current mazda owner loh


    Thats not a bad deal.
    Worth considering.
    I might have done it since my wifes car is a mazda2 100% agent maintained...

    But totally different driving sense and feel
  • 29 October 2015 - 10:57 PM
    Axela72

    Don't poke me like others lah. I only know that they are all sold out after I�post my initial�question, followby sms to�the SE to ask him whether is the promotion still on.

    As for the car, I really have difficulty to made up my mind. Whenever, I�start�interest in another alternative car, the more I research, the more con start coming out. Maybe back to square, I have to get Forester by ignoring the FC at end of the day. Manage to locate an Insurance to charge me only 1k [:)]� However, I have to convince my OC as she dislike the car

    Axela72, u very funny leh. If you knew all such cars have been sold then why still ask a quesfion: 'If a Mazda6 2L can get at 116k, will you get a Vezel or Mazda�6? Why? Ty'

    no point to ask since the cars already sold mah. Ask for fun meh. Not practical anymore mah. Have you decided on a car? I remembered you have been looking around for months?


  • 29 October 2015 - 11:48 PM
    Blade07
    The Mazda thing I saw it when I was out looking for cars. They have it at VW as well but the car is considered 2nd owner if you buy it. Not sure if same case for Mazda but I would assume so?
    Forester are you going for XT?
  • 30 October 2015 - 01:33 AM
    SiLangKia

    Don't poke me like others lah. I only know that they are all sold out after I�post my initial�question, followby sms to�the SE to ask him whether is the promotion still on.

    As for the car, I really have difficulty to made up my mind. Whenever, I�start�interest in another alternative car, the more I research, the more con start coming out. Maybe back to square, I have to get Forester by ignoring the FC at end of the day. Manage to locate an Insurance to charge me only 1k [:)]� However, I have to convince my OC as she dislike the car

    Bro since you've been having a headache for months, might as well let your OC decide [;)]� OC happy, everyone happy, and you can move on with life :)


  • 30 October 2015 - 01:38 AM
    Stooky

    Any bros order hybrid lights from taobao? Whats the difference between 1.5 and 1.8 in the link?

    http://www.sgshop.co..._1_520433077890


  • 30 October 2015 - 08:41 AM
    rstopel

    Any bros order hybrid lights from taobao? Whats the difference between 1.5 and 1.8 in the link?

    http://www.sgshop.co..._1_520433077890

    Think is related to HR-V which has a 1.8L version. Selling well across the causeway


  • 30 October 2015 - 09:35 AM
    Melvincyc

    Hmm..... the quality of HRV and Vezel may indeed be more for first time buyer.

    However, the high price of COE has made this into a car for matured drivers as well.

    If I�choose, It's M6. But it's my taste. Bigger, more powerful, more chio, not draggy CVT, more luxurious inside. The sound also better.

    The HRV and Vezel is just a taller Jazz, more�for first time buyers,

    I testdrive the HRV, feel�less power�than my current Avante, material also so so..

    now car already cao cao, above 100k of course buy the better one.

    But Mazda 6 got 116k so cheap meh??


  • 30 October 2015 - 09:38 AM
    Cantina

    If Vezel/HRV is for 1st time buyer, does that mean Qashqai is also under the same category?


    Hmm..... the quality of HRV and Vezel may indeed be more for first time buyer.

    However, the high price of COE has made this into a car for matured drivers as well.


    That's my opinion lah! But I see most Vezel/HRV owners are young 1st timers�or use as 2nd car.

    QQ, XV, Mazda2, Vios, Jazz/Fit all fall under same category.

    Edited by Cantina, 30 October 2015 - 09:40 AM.

  • 30 October 2015 - 09:54 AM
    Ben5266

    I have no idea, im intending buy a new�Honda HRV 2016. But i think this review is lack of something. How do you think?

    1.8L will be better. Since COE is not much different.


    Edited by Ben5266, 30 October 2015 - 10:00 AM.

  • 30 October 2015 - 10:34 AM
    m203ec

    Please help with query below:

    a. Is it true cruise control speed for vezel is limited to 110km/h but no limit for hrv? Can hrv or vezel owner please confirm.

    b. if so, has any vezel owner remove cruise limit and how?

    Thank you.


  • 30 October 2015 - 04:35 PM
    Nlatio

    Nearly sign on the dotted line... but alas, finance minister change mind last min.... sigh.... feel so bad to the SE..... who is a fantastic and patience Bro. Kudos to him.

    Those who is looking for Vezel I can PM you his contact. Top notch service....� [thumbsup]


  • 30 October 2015 - 05:47 PM
    Axela72

    which PI? pm me and kindly advise me your finalize price in case I decide to get this car. Ty

    Nearly sign on the dotted line... but alas, finance minister change mind last min.... sigh.... feel so bad to the SE..... who is a fantastic and patience Bro. Kudos to him.

    Those who is looking for Vezel I can PM you his contact. Top notch service....� [thumbsup]


  • 30 October 2015 - 08:24 PM
    Fuelsaver

    Thats true, Especially for Jap car, better to have custom head unit, easy to replace and upgrade.

    My car has a Bose sound system which is very good, but i listen to Radio and the same 7 cds over and over again, hahah....

    n i thot i was odd one out listening to same mp3 songs..

    probably just mean we r of age, though i think u should b somewhat older than me.


  • 30 October 2015 - 10:36 PM
    Vinzntonic

    Please help with query below:

    a. Is it true cruise control speed for vezel is limited to 110km/h but no limit for hrv? Can hrv or vezel owner please confirm.

    b. if so, has any vezel owner remove cruise limit and how?

    Thank you.

    HRV got cruise control meh?? I remember somebody saying don't have.. is that why no limit??

    Yes if i'm not wrong was mentioned cruise control at 110. to maintain the FC.


    That's my opinion lah! But I see most Vezel/HRV owners are young 1st timers�or use as 2nd car.

    QQ, XV, Mazda2, Vios, Jazz/Fit all fall under same category.

    TBH, i seen alot of aunties and uncles driving Vezel, mostly in the richer areas of east coast..

    Spoke to a few owners already.. all very happy with the car..


  • 31 October 2015 - 12:41 AM
    m203ec

    Please help with query below:

    a. Is it true cruise control speed for vezel is limited to 110km/h but no limit for hrv? Can hrv or vezel owner please confirm.

    b. if so, has any vezel owner remove cruise limit and how?

    Thank you.

    It is true then that vezel's cruise is limited to 110 kph. �What about hrv's? �

    Does anyone know how to remove limit? �It would be a letdown for travelling up north with the limit at 110kph.

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  • 31 October 2015 - 05:28 PM
    Hondalurver

    Hi,

    Need some advice here.

    I have a 1.6A Honda Civic registered in May 2008, fully paid off and total mileage of less than 80K km. Only 1 owner, accident free.

    Leaving only about 30months before COE expires, should I be buying a vezel or drive this civic for the next 30mths? Is it more worth it selling off now?

    Any advice is very much appreciated, please.

    Thank you in advance.


    Edited by Hondalurver, 31 October 2015 - 05:37 PM.

  • 31 October 2015 - 06:42 PM
    Evo5sg
    I would suggest you keep first.

    Hi,

    Need some advice here.

    I have a 1.6A Honda Civic registered in May 2008, fully paid off and total mileage of less than 80K km. Only 1 owner, accident free.

    Leaving only about 30months before COE expires, should I be buying a vezel or drive this civic for the next 30mths? Is it more worth it selling off now?

    Any advice is very much appreciated, please.

    Thank you in advance.


  • 31 October 2015 - 07:56 PM
    JJaassoonn

    Hi,

    Need some advice here.

    I have a 1.6A Honda Civic registered in May 2008, fully paid off and total mileage of less than 80K km. Only 1 owner, accident free.

    Leaving only about 30months before COE expires, should I be buying a vezel or drive this civic for the next 30mths? Is it more worth it selling off now?

    Any advice is very much appreciated, please.

    Thank you in advance.

    I sold my FD3 Oct 2008 milleage at 230000km for 31K.

    because my Hybrid IMA battery can't maintain at full charge for long period at traffic Jam.

    for your milleage less than 80km... U might sell at higher price than me.

    If let say u sell at 40K. Your 40% down payment, you only need to top less than 5K.


  • 31 October 2015 - 09:06 PM
    Nlatio
    Today I sign on the dotted line and got the Vezel... hope I have make the right decision.... kekekeke
  • 31 October 2015 - 09:33 PM
    Hondalurver

    I sold my FD3 Oct 2008 milleage at 230000km for 31K.

    because my Hybrid IMA battery can't maintain at full charge for long period at traffic Jam.

    for your milleage less than 80km... U might sell at higher price than me.

    If let say u sell at 40K. Your 40% down payment, you only need to top less than 5K.

    Thanks bro.
    Can i know where u got yr vezel from and ur PI sold your FD3 for u?

    Edited by Hondalurver, 31 October 2015 - 09:33 PM.

  • 31 October 2015 - 10:33 PM
    JJaassoonn
    I got it from SMART CARS BOUTIQUE. Trade in to them.

    Promise on delivery

    Edited by JJaassoonn, 31 October 2015 - 10:34 PM.

  • 01 November 2015 - 01:10 PM
    Blueray

    Hi,

    Need some advice here.

    I have a 1.6A Honda Civic registered in May 2008, fully paid off and total mileage of less than 80K km. Only 1 owner, accident free.

    Leaving only about 30months before COE expires, should I be buying a vezel or drive this civic for the next 30mths? Is it more worth it selling off now?

    Any advice is very much appreciated, please.

    Thank you in advance.

    I would keep, still got 30 months and 80k km mileage is pretty low still for the age of the car, just�need to change engine mount and wheel bearings at 90k or 100k servicing.

    Pros for waiting

    - plenty of life left in your Civic and its debt free

    - this quarter's COE likely to be stable

    - option to also consider the new Civic

    Cons for waiting

    - Yen is appreciating and understand Vezel OMV is coming to the $20k level

    - Civic's on the road value dropping while the price of new Vezel remains unchanged.

    On balance, I would still wait until after the usual CNY rush at least.


  • 01 November 2015 - 02:02 PM
    Vinzntonic

    Hi,

    Need some advice here.

    I have a 1.6A Honda Civic registered in May 2008, fully paid off and total mileage of less than 80K km. Only 1 owner, accident free.

    Leaving only about 30months before COE expires, should I be buying a vezel or drive this civic for the next 30mths? Is it more worth it selling off now?

    Any advice is very much appreciated, please.

    Thank you in advance.

    Your car if still in excellent condition, i suggest you wait for whatever 2016 models they are coming out.

    I would have waited but my car COE ends in Jan, so no choice..


  • 01 November 2015 - 02:56 PM
    Gt5454

    Today I sign on the dotted line and got the Vezel... hope I have make the right decision.... kekekeke

    Congrats !! Are you an currently driving a Latio? I am in a similar situation, have driven Latio for past 9.5 years. Now deciding between QQ and Vezel.
  • 01 November 2015 - 06:35 PM
    Nlatio

    Congrats !! Are you an currently driving a Latio? I am in a similar situation, have driven Latio for past 9.5 years. Now deciding between QQ and Vezel.

    Hi Bro, yes been driving the Latio for the past 9 years. So start "shopping" early for a new ride before COE, Interest rates and Yen go up....� [sweatdrop]

    Vezel prob difficult to test drive, got to trust the Bro review here.... kekekeke.....

    I tested the QQ, not a bad ride, but after I tested the Subaru XV, I find the Subaru ride more stable and quieter.... furthermore, QQ price is closer to Subaru Forester.... and Forester is solid... too bad I no budget for it....�

    For a family guy like me, long term maintenance is a "concern" (perceive High FC, High servicing cost for Subaru), that's why we decide to get the Vezel.... whether it turn out that Subaru will cost more in the long run got to ask Bro here for advise..... but Subaru XV and Subaru Forester is a nice ride..... in fact was at Subaru showroom to test drive the XV first and the SE thought I was going to sign on the dotted line..... which I nearly did...... paiseh to the SE....� [rolleyes]

    Hope after your research, you can come to a conclusion what to purchase. All the best.


  • 01 November 2015 - 07:15 PM
    Latio2005A

    Friend collected his Vezel X model at $106 nett. Full spec and 3-year warranty.

    I was about to buy also, but the attitude of the PI's salesperson sxcks big time. So no go. Bought Altis for wife instead.

    (Please do not ask me for PI's name. What my friend had gone through is no no for me.)


    Edited by Latio2005A, 01 November 2015 - 07:15 PM.

  • 01 November 2015 - 07:41 PM
    Nlatio

    Friend collected his Vezel X model at $106 nett. Full spec and 3-year warranty.

    I was about to buy also, but the attitude of the PI's salesperson sxcks big time. So no go. Bought Altis for wife instead.

    (Please do not ask me for PI's name. What my friend had gone through is no no for me.)

    sometime we just had to meet this type of people... boh bian.... at least your friend got the ride and a very good price.... if my SE like that I also wont buy....�


  • 01 November 2015 - 07:52 PM
    7hm

    Hi,

    Need some advice here.

    I have a 1.6A Honda Civic registered in May 2008, fully paid off and total mileage of less than 80K km. Only 1 owner, accident free.

    Leaving only about 30months before COE expires, should I be buying a vezel or drive this civic for the next 30mths? Is it more worth it selling off now?

    Any advice is very much appreciated, please.

    Thank you in advance.

    You have enough time to wait for the 10th generation Civic, which looks like it could be an actual revolution for Honda.


  • 01 November 2015 - 09:11 PM
    JJaassoonn

    Today I sign on the dotted line and got the Vezel... hope I have make the right decision.... kekekeke

    Congrats bro......


  • 01 November 2015 - 09:14 PM
    Nlatio

    Congrats bro......

    Thanks Bro. Now waiting for the bidding and the ride end of the �year.... � [:p]

    Any bro got like buying accessories for the ride??? Not change tyre, change rim type.... but more subtle accessories...� [laugh]


  • 01 November 2015 - 09:22 PM
    Throttle2

    n i thot i was odd one out listening to same mp3 songs..

    probably just mean we r of age, though i think u should b somewhat older than me.


    Oh, i am 34 this yr...how old are you?

    Friend collected his Vezel X model at $106 nett. Full spec and 3-year warranty.

    I was about to buy also, but the attitude of the PI's salesperson sxcks big time. So no go. Bought Altis for wife instead.

    (Please do not ask me for PI's name. What my friend had gone through is no no for me.)


    If attitude like fu(k, i rather not let him earn even if it means i pay more. Thats me
  • 01 November 2015 - 09:50 PM
    Blade07

    Friend collected his Vezel X model at $106 nett. Full spec and 3-year warranty.

    I was about to buy also, but the attitude of the PI's salesperson sxcks big time. So no go. Bought Altis for wife instead.

    (Please do not ask me for PI's name. What my friend had gone through is no no for me.)

    I think you meant 106k :)

    price is really good. but If really so bad attitude then very jialat.


  • 01 November 2015 - 10:52 PM
    Gt5454

    Hi Bro, yes been driving the Latio for the past 9 years. So start "shopping" early for a new ride before COE, Interest rates and Yen go up.... [sweatdrop]

    Vezel prob difficult to test drive, got to trust the Bro review here.... kekekeke.....

    I tested the QQ, not a bad ride, but after I tested the Subaru XV, I find the Subaru ride more stable and quieter.... furthermore, QQ price is closer to Subaru Forester.... and Forester is solid... too bad I no budget for it....

    For a family guy like me, long term maintenance is a "concern" (perceive High FC, High servicing cost for Subaru), that's why we decide to get the Vezel.... whether it turn out that Subaru will cost more in the long run got to ask Bro here for advise..... but Subaru XV and Subaru Forester is a nice ride..... in fact was at Subaru showroom to test drive the XV first and the SE thought I was going to sign on the dotted line..... which I nearly did...... paiseh to the SE.... [rolleyes]

    Hope after your research, you can come to a conclusion what to purchase. All the best.


    Thanks bro. So we were in the same Latio boat for the past 9 years +.
    I won't be considering Sabaru anyway , never a fan of their boxer engine and AWD etc.
    It's between QQ and Vezel for me. Pros and cons as usual. 1.2 QQ has concerns about turbo and the dreaded power loss. 2l QQ a bit of a stretch. Vezel 1.5 sounds like a good in between but fearful of PI and their reliability. Do you have a good PI to intro ? Mind to Pm me your contact and price , package pls?
    Kids exams finishing tmr so I have more time to go shop for cars already. Thanks.
  • 02 November 2015 - 02:24 AM
    honda2015

    Hi Nlatio, I'm looking for Vezel too. Can PM me�your�contact & the final price for Vezel X model. Tks.


    109, 1 bid guaranteed COE without top-ups.

    Hi Wtiong, can pm me your SA contact too? Tks.


  • 02 November 2015 - 09:37 AM
    crazysiao

    Friend collected his Vezel X model at $106 nett. Full spec and 3-year warranty.

    I was about to buy also, but the attitude of the PI's salesperson sxcks big time. So no go. Bought Altis for wife instead.

    (Please do not ask me for PI's name. What my friend had gone through is no no for me.)

    exactly bro, wld rather pay a little bit more for more friendly service than to feel that we "owe" them a living when they are making $ out from us...


    Thanks Bro. Now waiting for the bidding and the ride end of the �year.... � [:p]

    Any bro got like buying accessories for the ride??? Not change tyre, change rim type.... but more subtle accessories...� [laugh]

    I bot an external tpms... mudguards... lol...


    Today I sign on the dotted line and got the Vezel... hope I have make the right decision.... kekekeke

    just enjoy the ride...


  • 02 November 2015 - 11:25 AM
    Calvy

    I signed for my Vezel on 28th Sep, collecting probably Jan-Mar 2016

    Just curious what carplate number I will be getting......

    So I collate carplate numbers released�for October and came up with a trend...

    I want SK badly but it seems it will change to SL around first week of Feb 2016.......

    There's no SKY and SLA so it should be SLB by Feb 2016.... :wacko:

    Anyone same window as me?


  • 02 November 2015 - 11:31 AM
    Wiiuwii

    I signed for my Vezel on 28th Sep, collecting probably Jan-Mar 2016

    Just curious what carplate number I will be getting......

    So I collate carplate numbers released�for October and came up with a trend...

    I want SK badly but it seems it will change to SL around first week of Feb 2016.......

    There's no SKY and SLA so it should be SLB by Feb 2016.... :wacko:

    Anyone same window as me?

    Same here. Wait till neck long.


  • 02 November 2015 - 11:56 AM
    Nichi

    I signed for my Vezel on 28th Sep, collecting probably Jan-Mar 2016

    Just curious what carplate number I will be getting......

    So I collate carplate numbers released�for October and came up with a trend...

    I want SK badly but it seems it will change to SL around first week of Feb 2016.......

    There's no SKY and SLA so it should be SLB by Feb 2016.... :wacko:

    Anyone same window as me?

    why no SKY ah?


  • 02 November 2015 - 12:00 PM
    Calvy

    why no SKY ah?

    its LTA rules

    if it forms a word, then they will not release it.

    SKY would be so niceeee


  • 02 November 2015 - 12:07 PM
    Blade07

    There's no SKY and SLA so it should be SLB by Feb 2016.... :wacko:

    Anyone same window as me?

    SKW5294J to SKW5794H (Both Vehicle No. Inclusive)

    Seems like now SKW5+�


  • 02 November 2015 - 12:19 PM
    Bioinformatics

    its LTA rules

    if it forms a word, then they will not release it.

    SKY would be so niceeee

    So far, I see that only SKX is closest to SKY. Can remove 1 leg from the X to become Y.


  • 02 November 2015 - 01:19 PM
    crazysiao

    So far, I see that only SKX is closest to SKY. Can remove 1 leg from the X to become Y.

    how abt extending the leg of V from�SKV to become SKY...


  • 02 November 2015 - 02:07 PM
    Calvy

    how abt extending the leg of V from�SKV to become SKY...

    lol

    actually SKV and SKX both looks nice too...

    but I don't want SLB!! zzzz ugly looking to me... haiz...

    must ask my PI to quickly grab a car for me before feb. haha

    but then I would be SKZ


  • 02 November 2015 - 03:24 PM
    Calvy

    Same here. Wait till neck long.

    omg!! just as I was saying, my PI msg me!! he says my chassis is here! ETA 8 Nov!!!!!

    hohohoho.

    anyone knows about when can the car be registered?

    I want to aim for my preferred number! hahaha


  • 02 November 2015 - 03:30 PM
    Wiiuwii

    omg!! just as I was saying, my PI msg me!! he says my chassis is here! ETA 8 Nov!!!!!

    hohohoho.

    anyone knows about when can the car be registered?

    I want to aim for my preferred number! hahaha

    wah very lucky. Means 1 more week. I guess registration is within these few days or already registered as he needs to send the car for local fittings.


  • 02 November 2015 - 03:48 PM
    Calvy

    wah very lucky. Means 1 more week. I guess registration is within these few days or already registered as he needs to send the car for local fittings.

    hmm I read from somewhere, needs lotsa LTA inspection and stuffs which can take 2 months.

    and registration should be done just a couple of days before taking the physical car?

    hmmm


  • 02 November 2015 - 03:53 PM
    Wiiuwii

    hmm I read from somewhere, needs lotsa LTA inspection and stuffs which can take 2 months.

    and registration should be done just a couple of days before taking the physical car?

    hmmm

    I must have mis-read. U mean ETA to Singapore is 8 Nov, not ETD to you hor?


  • 02 November 2015 - 03:58 PM
    Calvy

    I must have mis-read. U mean ETA to Singapore is 8 Nov, not ETD to you hor?

    yes unfortunately

    [bigcry]

    means still long way to goooo but at least I got my chassis number already hehe... safe


  • 02 November 2015 - 04:04 PM
    Wiiuwii

    yes unfortunately

    [bigcry]

    means still long way to goooo but at least I got my chassis number already hehe... safe

    Good for you bro [laugh]� Maybe it's time I text my PI for some updates


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