Thứ Năm, 29 tháng 12, 2016

2015 Forester 2.0 part 6

  • 05 August 2015 - 01:46 PM
    7hm

    The discussions are getting exciting!

    I would agree the stock setup requires a tat more pedal distance before you can feel the bite. Nevertheless www.edmunds.com remarked that the FXT has one of the best braking distance in its class, following may not be apple to apple but gives a gauge:

    • "Forester 2.0XT stopped from 60 mph in 119 feet, a good number for this class"

    That's about 37m. Not bad.

    However my info from C&D USA says the Forester took 50m, more like 196ft.

    Hard to tell which is right.


  • 05 August 2015 - 01:49 PM
    Pocus

    That's about 37m. Not bad.

    However my info from C&D USA says the Forester took 50m, more like 196ft.

    Hard to tell which is right.

    Road conditions, tyres and initial speed matters too.


  • 05 August 2015 - 01:53 PM
    Quantum

    2.0-liter turbocharged SUBARU BOXER 4-cylinder?
    Will�boxer engine with turbocharger give you maintenance problems after 3 years, around 55,000KM? Most likely?�

    you're partially correct,

    because BOXER engine pistons horizontally in cylinder, gravity cause�piston and cylinder a bit decentraction, so wear and tear uneven, but�sufficient lubrication can overcome this issue.


    That's about 37m. Not bad.

    However my info from C&D USA says the Forester took 50m, more like 196ft.

    Hard to tell which is right.

    no so much lah, China tested between 40 to 42m, it's average distance in this class.


  • 05 August 2015 - 01:54 PM
    7hm

    Road conditions, tyres and initial speed matters too.

    Theirs should be 60mph as well. I'm not 100% certain it's the XT in question. XT does have all-around ventilated discs as opposed to front ventilated, rear solid on the non-XT.

    50m/195ft is more in line with similar weight 1.7ton D-segment large cars such as the Toyota Camry.


  • 05 August 2015 - 02:03 PM
    DomiNome
    To add on, US have the xt turbo with CVT since 2012, users reported 60k miles of driving without major issues.

    When brakes are concerned fxt use ventilated disc for the rear too, it has better stopping power when compared to forester premium.

    Cheers
  • 05 August 2015 - 03:20 PM
    Pocus
    Those XT owners waiting for 2nd bid, has your SE place bid?

    COE seemed aggressive today!
  • 05 August 2015 - 03:56 PM
    DomiNome

    Those XT owners waiting for 2nd bid, has your SE place bid?

    COE seemed aggressive today!

    It ain't over, praying


  • 05 August 2015 - 04:01 PM
    nckeong

    Those XT owners waiting for 2nd bid, has your SE place bid?

    COE seemed aggressive today!

    Got it, phew


  • 05 August 2015 - 04:22 PM
    Pocus


    Got it, phew


    You look at the reserved price, looks like MI very determined to clear backlog.

    Congrats to those who got it!
  • 05 August 2015 - 04:24 PM
    Laurencelau

    I got my COE on 2nd bid today,� MI bid rather agressively.� If I am not wrong, they revised the bid twice.� First to $61k and then $64,599


  • 05 August 2015 - 04:26 PM
    nckeong

    I got my COE on 2nd bid today,� MI bid rather agressively.� If I am not wrong, they revised the bid twice.� First to $61k and then $64,599

    Same here, 2nd bidding.


    Edited by nckeong, 05 August 2015 - 04:56 PM.

  • 05 August 2015 - 04:49 PM
    DomiNome
    Haha gratz,u guys have higher paper value than mine.may I suggest remove details of how MI does the bid for you. It's my way of saying thank you.
  • 05 August 2015 - 05:27 PM
    Cboonh

    Got the coe too! Looking forward to vehicle delivery. :D


  • 05 August 2015 - 05:41 PM
    Quantum

    Got the coe too! Looking forward to vehicle delivery. :D

    congratulation!


  • 05 August 2015 - 05:47 PM
    Cboonh

    Haha gratz,u guys have higher paper value than mine.may I suggest remove details of how MI does the bid for you. It's my way of saying thank you.

    Bro, care to share why you suggest to remove details of how MI bid?�

    I tot sharing is caring? :D


  • 05 August 2015 - 05:57 PM
    Mkl22

    Bro, care to share why you suggest to remove details of how MI bid?�

    I tot sharing is caring? :D

    yup. if i buy a car i will also gladly post the price i paid.. why the secrecy? if they can give me such a price they also can give it others.


  • 05 August 2015 - 06:21 PM
    Pocus

    yup. if i buy a car i will also gladly post the price i paid.. why the secrecy? if they can give me such a price they also can give it others.

    I think it's just basic courtesy.

    Sometimes they may have hit some targets or through some lobang�and were able to give you more discount compared to the rest. If you publicly disclose your quote, others might feel cheated for not having a "better" deal. I mean, who doesn't want to have a better deal?

    In the end, business relationship can sour. Let's also cut them some slacks as they are also earning a living.

    I think while we are encouraged not to disclose info, it's still up to us to share what we feel is ok. For that I think PMs are the rest way.


  • 05 August 2015 - 06:41 PM
    Redsurfer777


    I think it's just basic courtesy.

    Sometimes they may have hit some targets or through some lobang�and were able to give you more discount compared to the rest. If you publicly disclose your quote, others might feel cheated for not having a "better" deal. I mean, who doesn't want to have a better deal?

    In the end, business relationship can sour. Let's also cut them some slacks as they are also earning a living.

    I think while we are encouraged not to disclose info, it's still up to us to share what we feel is ok. For that I think PMs are the rest way.


    Agree to that.
  • 05 August 2015 - 06:56 PM
    Privacy
    Totally disagree.
    Consumers should encourage more price transparency and not help dealers make pricing a secret.
    Better pricing transparency brings about greater competition and more competitive pricing.
  • 05 August 2015 - 07:31 PM
    Pioneer

    I just booked my Black Forester XT at 3.15pm today.� [laugh]

    The SE wasn't keen to committed to the deal. He kept msging and calling people to seek approval.�

    Heng was able to get the 5 year free servicing package.�

    Came back to office and saw the COE price went up.� [smash]


  • 05 August 2015 - 07:42 PM
    Laurencelau

    Totally disagree.
    Consumers should encourage more price transparency and not help dealers make pricing a secret.
    Better pricing transparency brings about greater competition and more competitive pricing.

    Agree and support your view.� Seller should offer everyone the same treatment.� Why should someone be offered a better deal?

    Honesty is the most basic courtesy.� No need to hide here and there.


  • 05 August 2015 - 07:48 PM
    DomiNome


    I think it's just basic courtesy.

    Sometimes they may have hit some targets or through some lobang�and were able to give you more discount compared to the rest. If you publicly disclose your quote, others might feel cheated for not having a "better" deal. I mean, who doesn't want to have a better deal?

    In the end, business relationship can sour. Let's also cut them some slacks as they are also earning a living.

    I think while we are encouraged not to disclose info, it's still up to us to share what we feel is ok. For that I think PMs are the rest way.



    Wanted to praise but no power.. couldn't have explained it better!
  • 05 August 2015 - 07:55 PM
    Lejx

    I just booked my Black Forester XT at 3.15pm today.� [laugh]

    The SE wasn't keen to committed to the deal. He kept msging and calling people to seek approval.�

    Heng was able to get the 5 year free servicing package.�

    Came back to office and saw the COE price went up.� [smash]

    5 year free servicing package though was standard?


  • 05 August 2015 - 08:31 PM
    Macrosszero

    I think it's just basic courtesy.

    Sometimes they may have hit some targets or through some lobang�and were able to give you more discount compared to the rest. If you publicly disclose your quote, others might feel cheated for not having a "better" deal. I mean, who doesn't want to have a better deal?

    In the end, business relationship can sour. Let's also cut them some slacks as they are also earning a living.

    I think while we are encouraged not to disclose info, it's still up to us to share what we feel is ok. For that I think PMs are the rest way.

    If the salesgirl blew my whistle to seal the deal, I would also keep quiet about it.� [inlove]


  • 05 August 2015 - 08:39 PM
    Mkl22
    Actually the story was the sales person said to me... 'I give you the best price, you don't have to worry, but you cannot tell others ok...deal ah?' [laugh]
  • 05 August 2015 - 08:50 PM
    Wondertree

    I think it's just basic courtesy.

    Sometimes they may have hit some targets or through some lobang�and were able to give you more discount compared to the rest. If you publicly disclose your quote, others might feel cheated for not having a "better" deal. I mean, who doesn't want to have a better deal?

    In the end, business relationship can sour. Let's also cut them some slacks as they are also earning a living.

    I think while we are encouraged not to disclose info, it's still up to us to share what we feel is ok. For that I think PMs are the rest way.

    Indeed, who doesn't want a better deal? That's categorically the reason why we should share quotations instead of masking them.�


  • 05 August 2015 - 09:44 PM
    Cboonh


    If the salesgirl blew my whistle to seal the deal, I would also keep quiet about it.� [inlove]


    Got blow whistle bo jio! Got 5 year warranty or not?

    To each his own opinion. Personally I lean towards open sharing and believe it's the way to go. :D

    I just booked my Black Forester XT at 3.15pm today.� [laugh]

    The SE wasn't keen to committed to the deal. He kept msging and calling people to seek approval.�

    Heng was able to get the 5 year free servicing package.�


    Came back to office and saw the COE price went up.� [smash]


    Congrats! Welcome to the club. Just curious, did they manage to bid for you? :)
  • 05 August 2015 - 10:07 PM
    Pioneer

    The advertisement on sgcarmart says that the promotion for 5 yr free servicing is until 5 Aug only.

    He said to me that a lot people assumed it was standard but it was not true.

    5 year free servicing package though was standard?


    Not in time. We sat down at about 3.30pm to settle paper work.

    Got blow whistle bo jio! Got 5 year warranty or not?

    To each his own opinion. Personally I lean towards open sharing and believe it's the way to go. :D

    Congrats! Welcome to the club. Just curious, did they manage to bid for you? :)


  • 05 August 2015 - 11:22 PM
    Lejx
    [quote name="Pioneer" post="5561726" timestamp="1438783675"]

    The advertisement on sgcarmart says that the promotion for 5 yr free servicing is until 5 Aug only.



    He said to me that a lot people assumed it was standard but it was not true.

    Ahhh....I see.
  • 05 August 2015 - 11:48 PM
    Pocus


    Indeed, who doesn't want a better deal? That's categorically the reason why we should share quotations instead of masking them.�


    Indeed. I guess it's all up to individual as there's no right or wrong. I'm just giving them some benefit of doubt. After all they did managed to secure the bid this time.

    Anyway just glad XT owners finally get to collect their rides soon.
  • 06 August 2015 - 07:09 AM
    Pioneer
    Just to check. Did you guys receive any documents to certify that you have the 5 yr free servicing? I cannot find anything on my sales agreement.
  • 06 August 2015 - 07:50 AM
    Wrxykh

    Just to check. Did you guys receive any documents to certify that you have the 5 yr free servicing? I cannot find anything on my sales agreement.

    Mine was not mentioned. I checked with SE, he told me that it is a "sure give one". Will receive it in the form of voucher/coupons (12 I think) for car servicing. Do check with your SE to confirm.

    I still find it strange that they choose not to put this free 5 yrs servicing in the sales agreement.


  • 06 August 2015 - 08:21 AM
    Whitemondeo

    Got it, phew

    Congrats.


  • 06 August 2015 - 08:52 AM
    nckeong

    Just to check. Did you guys receive any documents to certify that you have the 5 yr free servicing? I cannot find anything on my sales agreement.

    I was checking last night, it was not spelt out in the sales agreement.�SE verbally said its 5 yr free servicing, will ask how it works.


  • 06 August 2015 - 09:01 AM
    Whitemondeo

    Just to check. Did you guys receive any documents to certify that you have the 5 yr free servicing? I cannot find anything on my sales agreement.

    Should be printed on the contact after securing your COE when you pay the downpayment, insurance etc. �Anyway, should be in their system.�


  • 06 August 2015 - 11:41 AM
    AnthonyKu

    Only useful if you intend to boost your turbo to 1.5bar and above. It's suppose to vent gas from the compressor out to the atmosphere, preventing compressor surge.

    Our stock dump valve is good enough for the job in stock condition.

    There is a dealer here who deals cusco parts, but not sure if they Mark up the price alot. May explore buying online and shipping here instead but will research more once I get my ride.


    Thank you Bro Pocus

    Send my FXT to MI for 1,000KM maintenance this morning. Checked on the inhouse Front Strut Bar, priced at $650 including installation. Price is really expensive in comparison to JDM ones on ebay and cusco price.

    http://www.ebay.com/...ester-strut-bar

    Any bros have experience with or knowledge of Strut Bars? are there any difference between original Subaru ones and others? Please kindly share experience.
  • 06 August 2015 - 12:52 PM
    Pocus

    Thank you Bro Pocus

    Send my FXT to MI for 1,000KM maintenance this morning. Checked on the inhouse Front Strut Bar, priced at $650 including installation. Price is really expensive in comparison to JDM ones on ebay and cusco price.

    http://www.ebay.com/...ester-strut-bar

    Any bros have experience with or knowledge of Strut Bars? are there any difference between original Subaru ones and others? Please kindly share experience.


    Different struct have different rating, some make the car stiffer than others. STI is Subaru sporting arm and not really makers of these parts, most probably oem, you are paying more for the brand. (Just like ralliart mufflers are oem from HKS)

    The link you posted is not for our Forester, it's for SH which is prev gen.

    Our XT is SJG or SJ5 for premium.
  • 06 August 2015 - 12:57 PM
    Lejx

    Thank you Bro Pocus

    Send my FXT to MI for 1,000KM maintenance this morning. Checked on the inhouse Front Strut Bar, priced at $650 including installation. Price is really expensive in comparison to JDM ones on ebay and cusco price.

    http://www.ebay.com/...ester-strut-bar

    Any bros have experience with or knowledge of Strut Bars? are there any difference between original Subaru ones and others? Please kindly share experience.

    Think BMS should have


  • 06 August 2015 - 03:51 PM
    Redsurfer777

    Different struct have different rating, some make the car stiffer than others. STI is Subaru sporting arm and not really makers of these parts, most probably oem, you are paying more for the brand. (Just like ralliart mufflers are oem from HKS)

    The link you posted is not for our Forester, it's for SH which is prev gen.

    Our XT is SJG or SJ5 for premium.


    Where do you see that info? Onemotoring?
    Thks
  • 06 August 2015 - 09:26 PM
    Cboonh

    Where do you see that info? Onemotoring?
    Thks


    Can find some info here. https://en.m.wikiped...Subaru_Forester

    It's like car enthusiasts equivalent of geek speak. Specific model generation and variant. :)
  • 06 August 2015 - 09:39 PM
    Cboonh
    Has any Xt owner added this to their ride yet? :)

    Screenshot_2015-08-06-21-35-40~01.png

    Care to share the damage? :)
  • 06 August 2015 - 11:54 PM
    Frakymjaykay

    I got it from tao bao about 110 + shipping (Vpost) + installation 100.


  • 07 August 2015 - 09:12 AM
    Cboonh

    I got it from tao bao about 110 + shipping (Vpost) + installation 100.


    Nice! Mind sharing if you installed it with a switch or if you just tap the existing DRL setup? :)
  • 07 August 2015 - 10:41 AM
    Frakymjaykay

    Nice! Mind sharing if you installed it with a switch or if you just tap the existing DRL setup? :)



    It was an option and i choosed to have a switch since it is illegal in SG. I ask for the installer ctc from MI sales as the bumper got to be removed. i want the installer who is familiar with the job.

    Drl lights up so long i turn on my regular head light. As such, I can turn it off with the extra switch installed.
  • 07 August 2015 - 11:03 AM
    Hamburger

    It was an option and i choosed to have a switch since it is illegal in SG. I ask for the installer ctc from MI sales as the bumper got to be removed. i want the installer who is familiar with the job.

    Drl lights up so long i turn on my regular head light. As such, I can turn it off with the extra switch installed.

    isn't that suppose to be the other way round??

    DRL goes off when you turn on your head lights?


  • 07 August 2015 - 11:13 AM
    Frakymjaykay


    isn't that suppose to be the other way round??

    DRL goes off when you turn on your head lights?


    It's a choice and i choosen that sequence.

    i wanted it to be on whenever i drive, simply controlled by the regular headlight switch. Under any other situation which i can turn it off with the add on switch. Eg, annual vehical check, TP checks or road block.... etc
  • 07 August 2015 - 11:42 AM
    nckeong
    Was told no more 5 year free servicing from this round.
  • 07 August 2015 - 11:43 AM
    Cboonh

    It's a choice and i choosen that sequence.

    i wanted it to be on whenever i drive, simply controlled by the regular headlight switch. Under any other situation which i can turn it off with the add on switch. Eg, annual vehical check, TP checks or road block.... etc


    Ah icic. Functions like the normal drl, but have the option to switch it off if you want to. Neat.

    I've half a mind to diy the installation. Parts coming in from taobao as we speak!

    Does your drl dims when you turn on your main head lights? Meaning day time full power, night time turn on headlights reduced power... Have installation / final setup pictures to share?
  • 07 August 2015 - 12:11 PM
    Cboonh

    Was told no more 5 year free servicing from this round.


    Interesting. Still dunno how the 5year servicing will work. Service credits/ vouchers? I would prefer it not to be voucher like. Vouchers very lehchey. Will ask more during collection!
  • 07 August 2015 - 12:25 PM
    Pocus

    Interesting. Still dunno how the 5year servicing will work. Service credits/ vouchers? I would prefer it not to be voucher like. Vouchers very lehchey. Will ask more during collection!


    Not voucher, service book will record 5yrs when you collect your car. It's in their system too.
  • 07 August 2015 - 12:26 PM
    Micb

    Interesting. Still dunno how the 5year servicing will work. Service credits/ vouchers? I would prefer it not to be voucher like. Vouchers very lehchey. Will ask more during collection!

    No vouchers, no service credits. � Just make a service appointment, drive in, servicing will be done, zero cost involved. � The 5 year servicing is captured in their system.

    DO note that the servicing includes labor and parts which are mentioned in the manufacturer service recommendation, not those wear & tear parts like brake pads, etc. �

    Cheers.


  • 07 August 2015 - 12:45 PM
    Cosmicclaw

    Was told no more 5 year free servicing from this round.

    That's probably worth about $3K to $4K of value. Hope they will bring this back again for undecided buyers.


  • 07 August 2015 - 12:50 PM
    Cboonh


    No vouchers, no service credits. � Just make a service appointment, drive in, servicing will be done, zero cost involved. � The 5 year servicing is captured in their system.

    DO note that the servicing includes labor and parts which are mentioned in the manufacturer service recommendation, not those wear & tear parts like brake pads, etc. �

    Cheers.


    Thanks for sharing Bros. Thats more 21st century.. Haha

    Understand that it's valid for 5 years or 100,000km. So it's a max of 12 servicing? 1k, 5k, 10k - 100k.
  • 07 August 2015 - 01:20 PM
    Arithon
    Third party blackvue install - my SE said that this will invalidate the warranty, unless I get the version from MI. Is that so? I am a bit sceptical.
  • 07 August 2015 - 01:55 PM
    Cboonh

    Third party blackvue install - my SE said that this will invalidate the warranty, unless I get the version from MI. Is that so? I am a bit sceptical.

    If one day they start to sell fuel, they will tell you that if you pump shell/esso etc, that will void your warranty. I find this really ridiculous sometimes..

    In countries with stronger consumer protection, this practice is against the law. "... Law prohibits a new car dealer from requiring that your factory required service and maintenance be performed by the dealer in order to uphold your new car warranty."

    Sadly, not in SG tho. Back to your post, I dun see why they can void ur engine/transmission warranty. Maybe they can kbkb abt ur electrical wiring/fault and void ur warranty if related things fail?

    Edited by Cboonh, 07 August 2015 - 01:57 PM.

  • 07 August 2015 - 02:09 PM
    etoh77

    The 5 yrs servicing package is stated on the Delivery Order when collecting the car. so it will def be on their system.


  • 07 August 2015 - 02:24 PM
    Akula
    Understand that XT price remains the same despite the increase in Cat B COE.
  • 07 August 2015 - 02:45 PM
    Pocus

    If one day they start to sell fuel, they will tell you that if you pump shell/esso etc, that will void your warranty. I find this really ridiculous sometimes..

    In countries with stronger consumer protection, this practice is against the law. "... Law prohibits a new car dealer from requiring that your factory required service and maintenance be performed by the dealer in order to uphold your new car warranty."

    Sadly, not in SG tho. Back to your post, I dun see why they can void ur engine/transmission warranty. Maybe they can kbkb abt ur electrical wiring/fault and void ur warranty if related things fail?

    I think it's standard for all AD. You can do, servicing AD won't kpkb. But if things happened, AD will charge and void warranty for that part if they need to clear the shit.

    Some ADs last time void suspensions for those who change they rims or upsize. Cos they change to a cheap one that is warped or they add spacer for incompatible rims, end up suspension up lorry.

    I feel that for wiring it should be straight forward to tap to lighter socket. Also it's best to get someone do does car wiring for a living to do it so the job will be good eg. ICE shops

    Edited by Pocus, 07 August 2015 - 02:46 PM.

  • 07 August 2015 - 02:46 PM
    Frakymjaykay

    Ah icic. Functions like the normal drl, but have the option to switch it off if you want to. Neat.

    I've half a mind to diy the installation. Parts coming in from taobao as we speak!

    Does your drl dims when you turn on your main head lights? Meaning day time full power, night time turn on headlights reduced power... Have installation / final setup pictures to share?



    Yaa, it does dim down when switch to main.

    DIY is gonna be belly challenging.
    1. Bring down bumper.
    2. Tap the correct wiring. One to original headlight control and second to act as main on off switch.
    3. Routing drl switch to the driver position.
    4. Drill and install the main drl switch into desire panel.
    5. Back on the bumper.

    i did tot of diy but being a typical sillyporean, i wont want to screw up my 138K new ride. :P
  • 07 August 2015 - 03:10 PM
    Cboonh

    Yaa, it does dim down when switch to main.

    DIY is gonna be belly challenging.
    1. Bring down bumper.
    2. Tap the correct wiring. One to original headlight control and second to act as main on off switch.
    3. Routing drl switch to the driver position.
    4. Drill and install the main drl switch into desire panel.
    5. Back on the bumper.

    i did tot of diy but being a typical sillyporean, i wont want to screw up my 138K new ride. :P


    Ya lo, my belly getting bigger by the day. I think it's going to be challenging too! Hahaha

    Will research more and decide. Will PM you for the installer details. Thanks for the explanation. :)
  • 07 August 2015 - 03:54 PM
    Hamburger

    It's a choice and i choosen that sequence.

    i wanted it to be on whenever i drive, simply controlled by the regular headlight switch. Under any other situation which i can turn it off with the add on switch. Eg, annual vehical check, TP checks or road block.... etc

    to tell you the truth is, its rather annoying for the car in front to have someone tailing them at the back with the DRL on.

    Cos its really bright. Thats why manufacturers dim it.....


  • 07 August 2015 - 04:19 PM
    Frakymjaykay


    to tell you the truth is, its rather annoying for the car in front to have someone tailing them at the back with the DRL on.

    Cos its really bright. Thats why manufacturers dim it.....


    Agreed totally.

    Then again, when i am infront of the bright light i recognised that it is the rear driver preference and not a personal challenge to me therefore i switch lane. :)
  • 07 August 2015 - 04:39 PM
    Cboonh


    to tell you the truth is, its rather annoying for the car in front to have someone tailing them at the back with the DRL on.

    Cos its really bright. Thats why manufacturers dim it.....


    Day time I think it's ok. Night time at full power is terrible. :)
  • 07 August 2015 - 05:39 PM
    Tohto

    Day time I think it's ok. Night time at full power is terrible. :)


    A factory original DRL will always dim when the head light is turn ON. That's why LTA don't allow after market DRL to be install as it may not auto dim.
  • 07 August 2015 - 06:11 PM
    Cboonh

    A factory original DRL will always dim when the head light is turn ON. That's why LTA don't allow after market DRL to be install as it may not auto dim.


    Yea, need to install one that will do the same.
  • 07 August 2015 - 08:34 PM
    Pioneer
    Yup. I went on the 5th, which was the last day of promotion, and told them I will only buy if I have the 5yr free servicing.

    Heng I was served by the supervisor. The rest of the customers were turned away I think because the timing was too close to the end of coe bidding.



    Was told no more 5 year free servicing from this round.


  • 07 August 2015 - 10:54 PM
    DarrenR10
    SE msg me say no more 5yr free servicing liao...
  • 07 August 2015 - 11:41 PM
    Cboonh

    Random question on stock tyres:

    How is the stock Bridgestone Dueler doing?

    If you are given a choice what would you rather get?� :grin:


  • 08 August 2015 - 07:47 PM
    Goman888

    How much you secured the car ??


    Yup. I went on the 5th, which was the last day of promotion, and told them I will only buy if I have the 5yr free servicing.

    Heng I was served by the supervisor. The rest of the customers were turned away I think because the timing was too close to the end of coe bidding.




  • 08 August 2015 - 09:17 PM
    Pioneer
    Stated price. Bo discount.


    How much you secured the car ??



  • 08 August 2015 - 09:58 PM
    Goman888
    $119,800 ???
    Can share freebies given ? Recommend the SE
  • 09 August 2015 - 10:43 PM
    kingfisher1688

    What are they thinking when almost all brand are offering free servicing. .

    Think their sales target met, can hang up to sell now.


  • 09 August 2015 - 11:45 PM
    Pioneer

    Anyone want to buy some stuff?� [:p]

    https://www.japanpar...php?dl=1&cm=181


  • 09 August 2015 - 11:47 PM
    Bkling

    Tried request to be added..since 1 month ago.


    Forget it..only got a few people or follower. Join here is better
  • 10 August 2015 - 02:07 AM
    Cboonh

    Forget it..only got a few people or follower. Join here is better


    Maybe we can start a WhatsApp group to share info? Send me a pm and I`ll kick start one?

    Anyone want to buy some stuff?� [:p]

    https://www.japanpar...php?dl=1&cm=181


    Nice share, very poisonous!
  • 10 August 2015 - 05:43 AM
    Pocus

    What are they thinking when almost all brand are offering free servicing. .

    Their ADs stated otherwise. Can question them on this misleading ad. Maybe they are discouraging people to book now due to no price change even thought COE up.

    I suggest those interested to either bargain For it or hold your horses, I suspect the extended warranty will come back again soon.

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  • 10 August 2015 - 06:24 AM
    Goman888

    Their ADs stated otherwise. Can question them on this misleading ad. Maybe they are discouraging people to book now due to no price change even thought COE up.

    I suggest those interested to either bargain For it or hold your horses, I suspect the extended warranty will come back again soon.

    Screenshot_2015-08-10-05-34-02.png


    Will it be MI has sold most cars and need times to wait for next shipment. Hence they hope by stopping free service will hold buyers from messing their showroom...
  • 10 August 2015 - 03:43 PM
    Wahlaoeh

    I am always curious why MI is quite reluctant to give out more freebies than their sister company to improve sales.

    Their profit margin is also quite similar to Nissan but Nissan can give free camera, insurance, etc.

    I guess maybe subaru is marketed as a premium Jap Brand.


    Support. Hope more people buy forester!


    For those who want to know the different technologies in a Subaru. I am sold after watching the different videos.

    Link of the videos

    when i asked the salesperson why subaru omw is so low, he kind of dodged my question by saying yen depreciation. i highly suspect forester is only imported as bare bone units without HU, leather seats, sunroof etc and assembled in Singapore. If that's the case, subaru may not enjoy as high margin as nissan as local labor costs and parts incurred. Also they are not mass volume seller, so each car sold counts. they may reached their sales target for the quarter so they will start to increase the margin.�

    on a side note, subaru is selling for over 200k for XT and 170k+ for premium in malaysia and the spec in premium is slightly different from SG variant. If u compare with other Jap/korea brands with same budget in Singapore say 120k range, u will find those are selling at 150k or less up north. I suspect Malaysia ones are fully imported, so the omv is higher thus need to bring the price higher to achieve margin target. But in SG if u import the full spec MI will need to price it at the same level as RAV4/CRV, which then it faces stronger competition.

    no matter what it is, Tan Chong has made it in a way that for this price there is no other brands to compete, and u get either get a forester or a Qashqai 2.0 premium, it is up to individuals to decide on their preferences. But which ever sells, they are the winner.


  • 10 August 2015 - 03:50 PM
    Pioneer

    It makes sense why they are reluctant to give freebies now that you reminded me of how they import only the bare car and install everything locally.�

    Haha.. sounds like those gray areas.

    when i asked the salesperson why subaru omw is so low, he kind of dodged my question by saying yen depreciation. i highly suspect forester is only imported as bare bone units without HU, leather seats, sunroof etc and assembled in Singapore. If that's the case, subaru may not enjoy as high margin as nissan as local labor costs and parts incurred. Also they are not mass volume seller, so each car sold counts. they may reached their sales target for the quarter so they will start to increase the margin.�

    on a side note, subaru is selling for over 200k for XT and 170k+ for premium in malaysia and the spec in premium is slightly different from SG variant. If u compare with other Jap/korea brands with same budget in Singapore say 120k range, u will find those are selling at 150k or less up north. I suspect Malaysia ones are fully imported, so the omv is higher thus need to bring the price higher to achieve margin target. But in SG if u import the full spec MI will need to price it at the same level as RAV4/CRV, which then it faces stronger competition.

    no matter what it is, Tan Chong has made it in a way that for this price there is no other brands to compete, and u get either get a forester or a Qashqai 2.0 premium, it is up to individuals to decide on their preferences. But which ever sells, they are the winner.


  • 10 August 2015 - 03:53 PM
    Cosmicclaw

    GPS is a separate unit. they did mention 2 years is 1k. i think the pricing is available on subaru website. there are 3 different kinds of service packages (type 3 being most expensive for 40k and 80k), and 3 years servicing covers 2 for type 1, 2 for type 2 and 1 for type 3 plus the free servicing till 10km. 5 years servicing will incur additional 2 for type 1, 1 for type 2 and 1 for type 3, so total should be around 2.5k.�

    i did not ask for 5 years becoz after 3 years, i am not sure if i will still stick with MI, as wear/tear parts need to be replaced like tyres, brakepads etc coming 3 years mark, they tend to rip u off on those items, and the free servicing then wont make any sense.

    Saw the Preventive Maintenance package on MI Website is listed as $1319 for 2 yrs and $1950 for 3 years.including brake pads, drive belting and bulbs, Did not find package pricing for Servicing.


  • 10 August 2015 - 06:12 PM
    Pioneer

    Front Strut?� [:p]

    http://world.taobao....0.Lq9gZ2#detail


  • 10 August 2015 - 07:31 PM
    AnthonyKu

    Forget it..only got a few people or follower. Join here is better


    I tried to join it too. But until now no one responded. I agree that here probably get more inputs from all the Bros.
  • 10 August 2015 - 08:11 PM
    AnthonyKu
    This SG50 weekend really very unlucky. I parked my 2 plus week old FXT outside my main gate for just half an hour. Some a**hole drove by and left the following damage on my car. I have no clue whether the culprit was driving a car or a bike. The worse thing is the car door is even slightly dented along the scratch line.

    Bros, can anyone advise what is the best remedy? Should I get a paint job done? What is the best thing I can do to cover up the scratch line and get rid of the slight dent?

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  • 10 August 2015 - 08:27 PM
    Lucille
    Sad for you.

    Just spray. Don't think can polish off completely from the look of it.
  • 10 August 2015 - 08:28 PM
    Shoelevy

    This SG50 weekend really very unlucky. I parked my 2 plus week old FXT outside my main gate for just half an hour. Some a**hole drove by and left the following damage on my car. I have no clue whether the culprit was driving a car or a bike. The worse thing is the car door is even slightly dented along the scratch line.

    Bros, can anyone advise what is the best remedy? Should I get a paint job done? What is the best thing I can do to cover up the scratch line and get rid of the slight dent?


    Bro, can try out JML MANTIS SCRATCH REMOVER. Got YouTube vids in case u wanna see it in action. I've used it myself on scratches though admittedly less severe than yours. But only $13 worth a try la

    Edited by Shoelevy, 10 August 2015 - 08:30 PM.

  • 10 August 2015 - 08:32 PM
    Yew80
    Bro dunno if any workshop can pop back the dent and if those paint profection can help? Ppl always say the original paintwork is better than those locally painted one..

    Maybe we can start a WhatsApp group to share info? Send me a pm and I`ll kick start one?

    Nice share, very poisonous!


    Bro the whatsapp group started for us new 2015 subaru forester
  • 10 August 2015 - 09:37 PM
    Pioneer

    How do join the watsapp group?

    Bro dunno if any workshop can pop back the dent and if those paint profection can help? Ppl always say the original paintwork is better than those locally painted one..

    Bro the whatsapp group started for us new 2015 subaru forester


    Sigh... Someone hit my rear light cluster just before I sold my ride a day later.

    Lost $500. These green eye monsters!� [smash]

    This SG50 weekend really very unlucky. I parked my 2 plus week old FXT outside my main gate for just half an hour. Some a**hole drove by and left the following damage on my car. I have no clue whether the culprit was driving a car or a bike. The worse thing is the car door is even slightly dented along the scratch line.

    Bros, can anyone advise what is the best remedy? Should I get a paint job done? What is the best thing I can do to cover up the scratch line and get rid of the slight dent?


  • 10 August 2015 - 10:08 PM
    Cboonh

    Bro the whatsapp group started for us new 2015 subaru forester


    Let me know how to join too. Received a message from a bro saying there's a current xv and forester grp.

    Some Bros also messaged me regarding starting a forester grp. I'll probably Kickstart a group tmr if I dun receive anything. :)

    This SG50 weekend really very unlucky. I parked my 2 plus week old FXT outside my main gate for just half an hour. Some a**hole drove by and left the following damage on my car. I have no clue whether the culprit was driving a car or a bike. The worse thing is the car door is even slightly dented along the scratch line.

    Bros, can anyone advise what is the best remedy? Should I get a paint job done? What is the best thing I can do to cover up the scratch line and get rid of the slight dent?


    *Ouch* feel for you bro.
  • 10 August 2015 - 10:33 PM
    Pocus

    Let me know how to join too. Received a message from a bro saying there's a current xv and forester grp.

    Some Bros also messaged me regarding starting a forester grp. I'll probably Kickstart a group tmr if I dun receive anything. :)

    *Ouch* feel for you bro.


    Great, do let us know if you starting one. I don't mind combining with xv owners. More knowledge sharing since we are all under the subaru family.
  • 10 August 2015 - 10:39 PM
    Pocus

    This SG50 weekend really very unlucky. I parked my 2 plus week old FXT outside my main gate for just half an hour. Some a**hole drove by and left the following damage on my car. I have no clue whether the culprit was driving a car or a bike. The worse thing is the car door is even slightly dented along the scratch line.

    Bros, can anyone advise what is the best remedy? Should I get a paint job done? What is the best thing I can do to cover up the scratch line and get rid of the slight dent?


    Ouch, that's the problem we fear when we get new cars. The scratch doesn't look like a car. More like something squeeze past your ride and scratch it. Probably a delivery man push something on a trolley or a bike. The line is too even to be a vandal.

    Actually these lines don t look too deep from the pic, should be able to polish off. The dent is more tricky though. Might need to panel beat and spray a little.
  • 11 August 2015 - 02:18 PM
    Chanwk

    Let me know how to join too. Received a message from a bro saying there's a current xv and forester grp.

    Some Bros also messaged me regarding starting a forester grp. I'll probably Kickstart a group tmr if I dun receive anything. :)


    I'm surprised that this group is so active now. A far cry from 6 months ago when I was considering getting the Forester which I did in the end.

    I'm in the whatsapp group that u guys are talking about which currently has a mixed of XV, FXT and Forester Premium owners. If u guys are keen to be in the group PM me your number and I'll get the admin to include u in. Glad to see so much interest in Forester now.
  • 12 August 2015 - 07:10 AM
    Pioneer
    It is an improvement but still not the most active group.


    I'm surprised that this group is so active now. A far cry from 6 months ago when I was considering getting the Forester which I did in the end.

    I'm in the whatsapp group that u guys are talking about which currently has a mixed of XV, FXT and Forester Premium owners. If u guys are keen to be in the group PM me your number and I'll get the admin to include u in. Glad to see so much interest in Forester now.


  • 12 August 2015 - 09:26 AM
    Pocus

    It is an improvement but still not the most active group.

    Well you can't compare much�to other more active threads (Vezel, QQ, Mz3, etc) As they are catered more to mainstream shoppers and are very attractively priced.

    Also, no pun intended, the hottest thread, "Vezel" is mostly discussing/complaining about PIs and problems in ordering the car rather than the car itself, with PI-in-disguise recommending themselves.

    While Vezel may be a good deal and value for money. But I felt it has dangerously reached the "Mac Donald's Hello Kitty" status�in popularity with people "frantically" try to get it cheap and good. This is dangerous for something worth more that 100k, it opens the doorway for opportunist to spam and carrot them, many hands could be burned.

    Sure, �if one does his homework well he could still get a good deal. But what about those who genuinely just what to get the car but dunno where to start?

    Jin Scary..


  • 12 August 2015 - 10:37 AM
    Pioneer

    Ya.

    Vezel came to my attention too but after a while is just not worth it to get from PIs. It is cheap no doubt, but all the savings you get from vezel is spent on buying tonic for your anxiety and fear.

    It is a cheap a good car but not a die die must have type.

    Well you can't compare much�to other more active threads (Vezel, QQ, Mz3, etc) As they are catered more to mainstream shoppers and are very attractively priced.

    Also, no pun intended, the hottest thread, "Vezel" is mostly discussing/complaining about PIs and problems in ordering the car rather than the car itself, with PI-in-disguise recommending themselves.

    While Vezel may be a good deal and value for money. But I felt it has dangerously reached the "Mac Donald's Hello Kitty" status�in popularity with people "frantically" try to get it cheap and good. This is dangerous for something worth more that 100k, it opens the doorway for opportunist to spam and carrot them, many hands could be burned.

    Sure, �if one does his homework well he could still get a good deal. But what about those who genuinely just what to get the car but dunno where to start?

    Jin Scary..


  • 12 August 2015 - 10:54 AM
    Pocus

    Random question on stock tyres:

    How is the stock Bridgestone Dueler doing?

    If you are given a choice what would you rather get?� :grin:

    You got any recommendation?

    I was reading reviews about the Dueler, god it was bad.

    http://www.tirerack....=Dueler H/L 400

    Lousy grip, lousy snow, lousy handling, lousy comfort & noise, lousy threadwear. What were they thinking?

    Now thinking of visiting tyre shop first thing after collect.

    Any bros here already changed the tyres? What did you change to and why?

    Been using performance tyres for the past few cars and I know nothing about touring tyres.


    Edited by Pocus, 12 August 2015 - 10:54 AM.

  • 12 August 2015 - 10:59 AM
    Cboonh

    Ya.

    Vezel came to my attention too but after a while is just not worth it to get from PIs. It is cheap no doubt, but all the savings you get from vezel is spent on buying tonic for your anxiety and fear.

    It is a cheap a good car but not a die die must have type.


    lol! Buying tonic for anxiety and fear.
  • 12 August 2015 - 06:47 PM
    Cosmicclaw

    You got any recommendation?

    I was reading reviews about the Dueler, god it was bad.

    http://www.tirerack....=Dueler H/L 400

    Lousy grip, lousy snow, lousy handling, lousy comfort & noise, lousy threadwear. What were they thinking?

    Now thinking of visiting tyre shop first thing after collect.

    Any bros here already changed the tyres? What did you change to and why?

    Been using performance tyres for the past few cars and I know nothing about touring tyres.

    Reviews from overseas may not reflect our local road conditions. Here is a positive review from SG driver.

    http://www.sgcarmart...77#comments2677


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