Easy la. Just pop by pml try bmw 320i. About same 0-100 timing (7.3sec) on paper compare to fxt. Tried comfort mode, can feel a bit of gear change if step hard on accelerator from stop. No pull back to seats feel, quite gradual acceleration. But once it gets going, the handling is way better than fxt and in fact any sedans I've tried before. The 320i is responsive but doesn't feel as quick as I expected. If compared rpm to rpm on the straight, I feel that it requires slightly higher rpm to get it going compared to fxt. Strange? X3 felt quicker though but the one I tested is the xdrive 28i which more powerful. Dunno laHearing the comments lately makes me keen to try a 2L turbo non CVT to see how the acceleration from stop differs...and see if it is less sluggish. Actually why not just always drive on S# mode haha
I think we are all splitting hairs maybe? Anyway, lately been noticing the pull back to seat feeling and I find myself gauging my acceleration based on that feeling haha. Actually I dont have much to compare with as been driving Mitubishi lancers whole life haha...maybe good to not know how others feel, hee, as are some things in life.Easy la. Just pop by pml try bmw 320i. About same 0-100 timing (7.3sec) on paper compare to fxt. Tried comfort mode, can feel a bit of gear change if step hard on accelerator from stop. No pull back to seats feel, quite gradual acceleration. But once it gets going, the handling is way better than fxt and in fact any sedans I've tried before. The 320i is responsive but doesn't feel as quick as I expected. If compared rpm to rpm on the straight, I feel that it requires slightly higher rpm to get it going compared to fxt. Strange? X3 felt quicker though but the one I tested is the xdrive 28i which more powerful. Dunno la
Will just go try my Bro's BMW 5 series one day....
Edited by Rachdanom, 23 August 2016 - 07:39 PM.
Hearing the comments lately makes me keen to try a 2L turbo non CVT to see how the acceleration from stop differs...and see if it is less sluggish. Actually why not just always drive on S# mode haha
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90% of the time I am using S mode.
S# mode is not smooth.
Easy la. Just pop by pml try bmw 320i. About same 0-100 timing (7.3sec) on paper compare to fxt. Tried comfort mode, can feel a bit of gear change if step hard on accelerator from stop. No pull back to seats feel, quite gradual acceleration. But once it gets going, the handling is way better than fxt and in fact any sedans I've tried before. The 320i is responsive but doesn't feel as quick as I expected. If compared rpm to rpm on the straight, I feel that it requires slightly higher rpm to get it going compared to fxt. Strange? X3 felt quicker though but the one I tested is the xdrive 28i which more powerful. Dunno la
BMW 8 speed GB from ZF, gear change are very fast.
No way the CVT will come close.
CVT gear change timing is zero. Even faster leh... my apologise, couldn't resist.90% of the time I am using S mode.
S# mode is not smooth.
BMW 8 speed GB from ZF, gear change are very fast.
No way the CVT will come close.
CVT gear change timing is zero. Even faster leh... my apologise, couldn't resist.
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I know that CVT actually had no gear.
But if you compare the X3 28i, which is almost same power/weight as FXT. X3 28i is 1sec faster on spec. But the X3 is double the price.
So FXT is still better. Paying $1k++ can push the power to 280hp already� ![[drivingcar]](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/blogger_img_proxy/AEn0k_u9Rngjyila5fhum_pd0ySXYz7SQsD_hvz_JWkoA2-iKHaMznphnE0-n0YhD2y7qQTpEfDFaBTobl-4S_aJokWDzpW7uaxMGRVS700Q1qqWvv4CKM2bBK5MQoVCQsnyuntZY0kOIf2Lb8F4=s0-d)
Check with my SE and he mentioned the 1k package is pure servicing without the free brake pad tire rotation etc like the 1300+ one. Not sure if it's true. Doesn't make sense now that I think of it. Anyway I did not take up the package as may consider servicing outside after first year.Anyone know about this. When u buy the 2 year service package tgeter with the car, the price is 1k net. But if u buy the package during servicing after you get the car, price for 2 year is like 1.1k after $200 duo discount
Anyone know?
My plans for my future servicing would be to get my own geniune replacement parts which i already sourced at a cheap price and get it done at pro shops. Parts like brake pads, oil, aircon, air filters.
Its the community spirit and people just goof around to destress mah. Not every post must be new info, share lobang etc mah...in case you missed there was a "bad mouthing" Forester effort by owners to prevent a "Vezel" proliferation of the Forester that sparked the comparisons :-) Chill bro.It become quite boring to open up to see message posing about FC and comparing this and that. In the first place its already stated in the SPECS what shit you getting into.
My plans for my future servicing would be to get my own geniune replacement parts which i already sourced at a cheap price and get it done at pro shops. Parts like brake pads, oil, aircon, air filters.
Edited by Rachdanom, 23 August 2016 - 11:00 PM.
Can try Tiguan 2.0T... It's a 2.0 turbo non CVT.. Try it and u will understand... Cost 50k more I think.Hearing the comments lately makes me keen to try a 2L turbo non CVT to see how the acceleration from stop differs...and see if it is less sluggish. Actually why not just always drive on S# mode haha
Let's talk Apple to Apple, otherwise we will bring in Ferrari, Maserati, Lamborghini Liao
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Edited by thefalcon, 24 August 2016 - 12:51 AM.
Just checking with those who did go to showroom recently..wats the latest offer for the XT model...price?tks..
My car 1 year liao, no issues, not a single hint of smell. Maybe those who complain are uber driver and drop off passengers frequently.By the way, for those who are using the nomad mat given free by MI (I believe those 3a brand), had read a lot of bad reviews about the mat like torn within few months or bad rubber smell, are the mats really that bad?
It's really a personal choice..got $$$ can do anywhere la. My Friend who bought early last year with 5 yrs FOC will gladly pay the current price of the Forester albeit without the 5 yr.Warranty is for 5 years but the car comes with only 3 FOC servicing... Advisable to stick to MI or just go to reputable 3rd party workshops after 3rd servicing??
My friend bought forester early last year and got 5 years FOC servicing...
So all relative la..
The rubber base where the velcro is attached is quite soft. When I pulled on the mat to remove and clean, the rubber base tore around the velcro instead of the velcro detaching itself. Anyway you dont need the velcro to keep the mats in place.By the way, for those who are using the nomad mat given free by MI (I believe those 3a brand), had read a lot of bad reviews about the mat like torn within few months or bad rubber smell, are the mats really that bad?
The new mat smell is quite strong at first but after a week or so it was not noticeable.
I'm not sure about x3 28i actual timing. But fxt actual 0-100 is definitely more than 7.5secs.. at least when I test it with mine..I know that CVT actually had no gear.
But if you compare the X3 28i, which is almost same power/weight as FXT. X3 28i is 1sec faster on spec. But the X3 is double the price.
So FXT is still better. Paying $1k++ can push the power to 280hp already
Dun worry. Even bmw's 320i actual timing also > 7.3secs even in sport sharp mode as tested by a Friend. Those 0-100 timings are tested under some controlled environment. My fxt has additional weights such as door sound proofing and undercarriage sound proofing materials As well. Plus, I'm a heavy driver. Lol.I'm not sure about x3 28i actual timing. But fxt actual 0-100 is definitely more than 7.5secs.. at least when I test it with mine..
Btw for 0-100 timings I heard can achieve close to 7.5 if in sports mode. Apparently sport sharp can only hit 8 sec
When SE passed mat to me, recommended me to air for a few days. But after day 2, all the heavy rubber smell all gone. So if you straight put into car without good ventilation, definitely will not smell great.The rubber base where the velcro is attached is quite soft. When I pulled on the mat to remove and clean, the rubber base tore around the velcro instead of the velcro detaching itself. Anyway you dont need the velcro to keep the mats in place.
The new mat smell is quite strong at first but after a week or so it was not noticeable.
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1. Excessive oil consumption issue - https://www.cars.com...1420683845519/; � �- http://www.torquenews.com/1084/subaru-settles-oil-consumption-lawsuit ;
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2. Head Gasket Engine Issues in the past models. - http://www.licmotors...ad-gasket-issue
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Are the above issues still plaguing your new FXT? Have you guys experienced the above in your ride ? What are some of the other problems that you face with your ride if any?
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Sorry if the questions above had been asked before as there are 300+ threads and it is difficult to read through all. Appreciate your kind advice
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Anyone feel that xt when starting from cold (overnight) the engine is a bit rough and the knockings can be felt in the 1st min or 2 before subsiding ?
Yes get that too, but not consistent, some days worse that others.
Can I purchase Subaru's merchandise such as laser shade using Duo points? If so, which voucher should I redeem? Full service voucher?
Any FXT owners here know if there is some switch at the beeper speaker? I can't seem to find it after looking through the boot and rear side window areas.
You can use the DUO points for almost anything at MI, including servicing packages. The counter at MI will advise you on the deduction and what is best value for the points.Can I purchase Subaru's merchandise such as laser shade using Duo points? If so, which voucher should I redeem? Full service voucher?
Yes, I guess it should be nothing to worry about. It's starting cold and need some time to warm up with all the lubricants waking up to their respective points.Anyone feel that xt when starting from cold (overnight) the engine is a bit rough and the knockings can be felt in the 1st min or 2 before subsiding ?
Mine even can feel slight rocking from the boxer engine during cold starts. Just don't ram the engine immediately and all will be good.
Another problem is only 2 service center for those who will go back to AD. If more people buy, longer waiting time to get a slot for service. U better stay away.Dear Forester Owners,
I am thinking of getting a new Forester XT but have some reservations after reading online reviews about the followings issues:
1. Excessive oil consumption issue - https://www.cars.com...1420683845519/; - http://www.torquenew...umption-lawsuit ;
2. Head Gasket Engine Issues in the past models. - http://www.licmotors...ad-gasket-issue
Are the above issues still plaguing your new FXT? Have you guys experienced the above in your ride ? What are some of the other problems that you face with your ride if any?
By the way, is it also true that all four tyres had to be replaced for Subaru AWD vehicles if one of the tyres punctured? What is also the typical FC like so far?
Sorry if the questions above had been asked before as there are 300+ threads and it is difficult to read through all. Appreciate your kind advice
Thank you very much !!
As for tyre change, even my FWD I also change 4 at a go, it is just good practice. Puncture can patch. Don't need every time change.
But really puncture till need change, and other tyres wear only minimum or 20 - 30 %, you can just put it at the rear, the tyre shop will know what to do. My tyre puncture within 1 month of collection and usually once every 2 months due to where I work... So just get tyre shop to advice u...
The only issue plaguing me is keep checking on speedometer, to discipline my right foot, and to keep checking on all my mirrors to make sure no TP follow me ...Dear Forester Owners,
I am thinking of getting a new Forester XT but have some reservations after reading online reviews about the followings issues:
1. Excessive oil consumption issue - https://www.cars.com...1420683845519/; - http://www.torquenew...umption-lawsuit ;
2. Head Gasket Engine Issues in the past models. - http://www.licmotors...ad-gasket-issue
Are the above issues still plaguing your new FXT? Have you guys experienced the above in your ride ? What are some of the other problems that you face with your ride if any?
By the way, is it also true that all four tyres had to be replaced for Subaru AWD vehicles if one of the tyres punctured? What is also the typical FC like so far?
Sorry if the questions above had been asked before as there are 300+ threads and it is difficult to read through all. Appreciate your kind advice
Thank you very much !!
The only issue plaguing me is keep checking on speedometer, to discipline my right foot, and to keep checking on all my mirrors to make sure no TP follow me ...
Sounds like a really awesome and addictive car !
Hmm nv felt that before. Norally after starting cold, I will just drive off after 30 Sec ( time to fasten seat belts and adjust aircon , etc) I will drive slow out of car park and keep to below 2k rpm until I hit the expressways.Anyone feel that xt when starting from cold (overnight) the engine is a bit rough and the knockings can be felt in the 1st min or 2 before subsiding ?
Thanks for understanding. Seems that the same issue "plaguing" you too... ?Sounds like a really awesome and addictive car !
How is the integrated GPS? Does it include Malaysia map? Lifetime map update?Yes, GPS comes FOC with my FXT. As compared with my previous old conti ride, FXT has so much more features to enjoy (eg keyless passcode access, keyless entry/start, ultra bright led headlights). I simply enjoy every bit of the car!
How is the integrated GPS? Does it include Malaysia map? Lifetime map update?
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For mine, the integrated GPS is actually Garmin.
Yes it does include Malaysia.
Free update for first 3 years
Yes get that too, but not consistent, some days worse that others.
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drive off after the temp icon turns off. cold start will have the temp icon appear as blue.
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Just don't drive too hard for first few mins should be fine, its common for most engine make
I find it hard to keep within speed limit for 60km/h roads with this car.The only issue plaguing me is keep checking on speedometer, to discipline my right foot, and to keep checking on all my mirrors to make sure no TP follow me ...
I would be driving slowly along 40km/h road upon leaving my hdb carpark. By the time I hit the bigger roads it has warmed up, blue light gone.Hmm nv felt that before. Norally after starting cold, I will just drive off after 30 Sec ( time to fasten seat belts and adjust aircon , etc) I will drive slow out of car park and keep to below 2k rpm until I hit the expressways.
Edited by Rachdanom, 25 August 2016 - 07:38 PM.
Speed limit is always a concern with this car. Before u know it u already way over speed limit. Go on kakit bukit flyover easily over 90...I find it hard to keep within speed limit for 60km/h roads with this car.
I would be driving slowly along 40km/h road upon leaving my hdb carpark. By the time I hit the bigger roads it has warmed up, blue light gone.
LOL!Speed limit is always a concern with this car. Before u know it u already way over speed limit. Go on kakit bukit flyover easily over 90...
A lot of times, I accidentally drive till 110km/h on CTE.
Pump 95 or 98 petrol!Yes get that too, but not consistent, some days worse that others.
Q1: noDear Forester Owners,
I am thinking of getting a new Forester XT but have some reservations after reading online reviews about the followings issues:
1. Excessive oil consumption issue - https://www.cars.com...1420683845519/; - http://www.torquenew...umption-lawsuit ;
2. Head Gasket Engine Issues in the past models. - http://www.licmotors...ad-gasket-issue
Are the above issues still plaguing your new FXT? Have you guys experienced the above in your ride ? What are some of the other problems that you face with your ride if any?
By the way, is it also true that all four tyres had to be replaced for Subaru AWD vehicles if one of the tyres punctured? What is also the typical FC like so far?
Sorry if the questions above had been asked before as there are 300+ threads and it is difficult to read through all. Appreciate your kind advice
Thank you very much !!
Q2: no
Tyres: got to be same tread design all 4. Prefrontal almost same tread depth.. Replace all 4 when 1 puncture too ??.. Maybe if tyres used for more than 20k km then tread depth lots of difference between 1 new tyres and other 3.
FC: some users 1L to 11-12km.. Some 9km, some 7 some 8.. Can put average as 8.5 if drive normally which is rabbit hop pick up.. Drive slightly faster than other cars.. If drive slowly.. Think 10-12
It's a shitty car... Always put your Licence at risk of getting more demerit points..Sounds like a really awesome and addictive car !
Dear Forester Owners,
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I am thinking of getting a new Forester XT but have some reservations after reading online reviews about the followings issues:
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1. Excessive oil consumption issue - https://www.cars.com...1420683845519/; � �- http://www.torquenew...umption-lawsuit ;
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2. Head Gasket Engine Issues in the past models. - http://www.licmotors...ad-gasket-issue
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Are the above issues still plaguing your new FXT? Have you guys experienced the above in your ride ? What are some of the other problems that you face with your ride if any?
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By the way, is it also true that all four tyres had to be replaced for Subaru AWD vehicles if one of the tyres punctured? What is also the typical FC like so far?�
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Sorry if the questions above had been asked before as there are 300+ threads and it is difficult to read through all. Appreciate your kind advice
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Thank you very much !!
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I read that engine oil consumption happening on FB20 engines, which is the non-turbo version of forester and XV (other countries XV having 2 litre engine). The XT which is using FA20 seems ok.
The stock Bridgestone tires after 7k plus km still looks almost brand new. The thread is pretty deep. Looks like they can last a long long time. Only thing is that they are suv tires and not specially designed for good grip on Tarmac. But I'm not complaining since they perform well enough to keep me happy.Q1: no
Q2: no
Tyres: got to be same tread design all 4. Prefrontal almost same tread depth.. Replace all 4 when 1 puncture too 夸张.. Maybe if tyres used for more than 20k km then tread depth lots of difference between 1 new tyres and other 3.
FC: some users 1L to 11-12km.. Some 9km, some 7 some 8.. Can put average as 8.5 if drive normally which is rabbit hop pick up.. Drive slightly faster than other cars.. If drive slowly.. Think 10-12
It's a shitty car... Always put your Licence at risk of getting more demerit points..
Anyone has ran like 20k km or more on these tires already?
I think the Jap are being very conservative about their fa20 engine. It's their first twin scroll turbo boxer, and the figures are still considered conservative compared to their Europeans competitors. Jap usually go for reliability first before performance. HehI read that engine oil consumption happening on FB20 engines, which is the non-turbo version of forester and XV (other countries XV having 2 litre engine). The XT which is using FA20 seems ok.
I think the Jap are being very conservative about their fa20 engine. It's their first twin scroll turbo boxer, and the figures are still considered conservative compared to their Europeans competitors. Jap usually go for reliability first before performance. Heh
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hmm? some of the EJ20-equipped cars came with twin scrolls from the factory. JDM sti, spec c, s-series, legacy. Using vf36, 37, 38, 42, 44
Pump 95 or 98 petrol!
Both. tried a few tanks of 98 and than 95, and found no difference with regarsd ot the rough idling before fully warmed up. Trying V-Power now, also some days more noticeable than others
Q1: no
Q2: no
Tyres: got to be same tread design all 4. Prefrontal almost same tread depth.. Replace all 4 when 1 puncture too ??.. Maybe if tyres used for more than 20k km then tread depth lots of difference between 1 new tyres and other 3.
FC: some users 1L to 11-12km.. Some 9km, some 7 some 8.. Can put average as 8.5 if drive normally which is rabbit hop pick up.. Drive slightly faster than other cars.. If drive slowly.. Think 10-12
It's a shitty car... Always put your Licence at risk of getting more demerit points..
Thanks for sharing !
Dear Forester Owners,
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I am thinking of getting a new Forester XT but have some reservations after reading online reviews about the followings issues:
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1. Excessive oil consumption issue - https://www.cars.com...1420683845519/; � �- http://www.torquenew...umption-lawsuit ;
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2. Head Gasket Engine Issues in the past models. - http://www.licmotors...ad-gasket-issue
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Are the above issues still plaguing your new FXT? Have you guys experienced the above in your ride ? What are some of the other problems that you face with your ride if any?
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By the way, is it also true that all four tyres had to be replaced for Subaru AWD vehicles if one of the tyres punctured? What is also the typical FC like so far?�
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1. Happens to FB series engines. FA20DIT is not affected. Having said, The incident happens only for USDM models. For models in Japan, Australia and other export version, problem not reported. So suspect it's a QC issue in US plant.
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2. SJ Forester are 2013 built and currently still too early to know if there are any gasket issues. Anyway gasket leaks are quite common for high-mileage engines exceeding 100,000km. If you do regular maintenance your mechanic would have detected notify you for replacement before it does further damage.
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Current FXT, so far didn't hear of any major mechanical issues that is a show stopper. For my 1 year old ride apart from occasional squeaks I didn't get any show stopping�failure, but then too early to tell. Someone who own it since 2013 (true first batch) just had one of his wheel bearing replaced. there are reports of inconsistent rev during idling, turns out to be a air duct issue which Subaru recalled to replace. affects pre-FL 2015 models only though. One guy's steering leather peel liao after 3 years.�2 or their�pre-FL headlamp LED lights turn greenish (not the current FL which is different type of headlamps).There is�even 1 guy reports roof leak rain from the�3rd seatbelt roof attachment, but so far�only him and�no other report.�Some say leather seats not fitted properly and poor QC by local fitter. Radio reception abit weak for shark fin antennas. Some got funny squeaks here and there which cannot be solved.
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But take note all this are consolidated issues from hundreds of Forester owners in our chat group(s) and previous pages. It doesn't mean you will kena all of them at the same time or kena any of them at all. So keep an open eye. No car model is perfect.
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For tyres, according to the tech advisors, flat tyre change one�pairs can liao like normal B&B, don't need all 4s. The AWD is flexible enough to cater for it. change only 1 tyre is not advisable unless the the tyres are still low mileage.
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FC is subjective. For bros in the chat group(s) and here getting as high as 12km/l�and as low at 7km/l on local roads. My average is 8 to 9km/l with�highest been 10.5km/l and lowest being�7.5km/l�for most short-mid distance 70% urban driving.
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Edited by Pocus, 26 August 2016 - 11:32 PM.
1. Happens to FB series engines. FA20DIT is not affected. Having said, The incident happens only for USDM models. For models in Japan, Australia and other export version, problem not reported. So suspect it's a QC issue in US plant.
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2. SJ Forester are 2013 built and currently still too early to know if there are any gasket issues. Anyway gasket leaks are quite common for high-mileage engines exceeding 100,000km. If you do regular maintenance your mechanic would have detected notify you for replacement before it does further damage.
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Current FXT, so far didn't hear of any major mechanical issues that is a show stopper. For my 1 year old ride apart from occasional squeaks I didn't get any show stopping�failure, but then too early to tell. Someone who own it since 2013 (true first batch) just had one of his wheel bearing replaced. there are reports of inconsistent rev during idling, turns out to be a air duct issue which Subaru recalled to replace. affects pre-FL 2015 models only though. One guy's steering leather peel liao after 3 years.�2 or their�pre-FL headlamp LED lights turn greenish (not the current FL which is different type of headlamps).There is�even 1 guy reports roof leak rain from the�3rd seatbelt roof attachment, but so far�only him and�no other report.�Some say leather seats not fitted properly and poor QC by local fitter. Radio reception abit weak for shark fin antennas. Some got funny squeaks here and there which cannot be solved.
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But take note all this are consolidated issues from hundreds of Forester owners in our chat group(s) and previous pages. It doesn't mean you will kena all of them at the same time or kena any of them at all. So keep an open eye. No car model is perfect.
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For tyres, according to the tech advisors, flat tyre change one�pairs can liao like normal B&B, don't need all 4s. The AWD is flexible enough to cater for it. change only 1 tyre is not advisable unless the the tyres are still low mileage.
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FC is subjective. For bros in the chat group(s) and here getting as high as 12km/l�and as low at 7km/l on local roads. My average is 8 to 9km/l with�highest been 10.5km/l and lowest being�7.5km/l�for most short-mid distance 70% urban driving.
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hope all this info helps.
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I think wheel bearing issues highly dependent on driving style, driving route, wheel alignment and also mileage (not age). Wheels with more camber (or camber changes, or wide tyres) will tend to have bearings fail earlier.
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Peeling leather I think is just lousy Jap quality. Even Mazda have the same problem. Actually I would request NOT to have locally fitted leather. The quality does not seem fantastic. The original fabric from Japan is very good and will stay nicely fitted up to 10 years. I have seen some Suzuki Swift and Honda Stream coming to 10 years with original fabric and they look really good.
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Radio is not using the shark fin. Shark fin is for factory fitted GPS and GSM (if you have a phone module or adaptor, which I think the FXT does not). The radio antenna is actually in your rear windscreen disguised as part of the heater matrix and is already a diversity antenna. If you know how analog signals work, what matter is the size. The bigger the antenna the better the reception. Some aftermarket radio units have noise cancellation / signal processing and signal boost capabilities for FM radio, hence it sounds better.
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Squeaks are the most difficult issues to resolve, though. Need to really take time to find the source.
Edited by Detach8, 27 August 2016 - 12:08 PM.
My model comes with shark find but the HU does not have GPS (mine was just before MI announced the upgraded HU with gps). Don't think there is GSM as the phone is connected via Bluetooth. So... The shark fin is for what in this case?I think wheel bearing issues highly dependent on driving style, driving route, wheel alignment and also mileage (not age). Wheels with more camber (or camber changes, or wide tyres) will tend to have bearings fail earlier.
Peeling leather I think is just lousy Jap quality. Even Mazda have the same problem. Actually I would request NOT to have locally fitted leather. The quality does not seem fantastic. The original fabric from Japan is very good and will stay nicely fitted up to 10 years. I have seen some Suzuki Swift and Honda Stream coming to 10 years with original fabric and they look really good.
Radio is not using the shark fin. Shark fin is for factory fitted GPS and GSM (if you have a phone module or adaptor, which I think the FXT does not). The radio antenna is actually in your rear windscreen disguised as part of the heater matrix and is already a diversity antenna. If you know how analog signals work, what matter is the size. The bigger the antenna the better the reception. Some aftermarket radio units have noise cancellation / signal processing and signal boost capabilities for FM radio, hence it sounds better.
Squeaks are the most difficult issues to resolve, though. Need to really take time to find the source.
My model comes with shark find but the HU does not have GPS (mine was just before MI announced the upgraded HU with gps). Don't think there is GSM as the phone is connected via Bluetooth. So... The shark fin is for what in this case?
Relax, What he say are generic stuff and not Forester specific. So his comments on the shark fin antenna is totally inaccurate for this case.
Edited by Pocus, 27 August 2016 - 07:41 PM.
Changing wheel bearing is common, if one style of drive always full clock the steering wheel, higher chance to wear them out quickly... My family Toyota have chance 3 sets over a period of 10 years... Likewise just change for my other car at C&C recently too... Changing wheel bearing is common even for conti... But the frequency is dependent on driving habits and terrain
Yes I agree changing wheelbearing is a wear and tear thing and not a fault....... but 3 years? I felt its a little to early. My old car's bearing lasted 8years before kaput. My other hot batch, due to its harsh driving stance, at least lasted me for 5 years. Hope its an isolated case though. Most of us haven't hit 3 yrs so time will tell.
Ah I see. Thanks for clarifying!Relax, What he say are generic stuff and not Forester specific. So his comments on the shark fin antenna is totally inaccurate for this case.
1. Happens to FB series engines. FA20DIT is not affected. Having said, The incident happens only for USDM models. For models in Japan, Australia and other export version, problem not reported. So suspect it's a QC issue in US plant.
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2. SJ Forester are 2013 built and currently still too early to know if there are any gasket issues. Anyway gasket leaks are quite common for high-mileage engines exceeding 100,000km. If you do regular maintenance your mechanic would have detected notify you for replacement before it does further damage.
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Current FXT, so far didn't hear of any major mechanical issues that is a show stopper. For my 1 year old ride apart from occasional squeaks I didn't get any show stopping�failure, but then too early to tell. Someone who own it since 2013 (true first batch) just had one of his wheel bearing replaced. there are reports of inconsistent rev during idling, turns out to be a air duct issue which Subaru recalled to replace. affects pre-FL 2015 models only though. One guy's steering leather peel liao after 3 years.�2 or their�pre-FL headlamp LED lights turn greenish (not the current FL which is different type of headlamps).There is�even 1 guy reports roof leak rain from the�3rd seatbelt roof attachment, but so far�only him and�no other report.�Some say leather seats not fitted properly and poor QC by local fitter. Radio reception abit weak for shark fin antennas. Some got funny squeaks here and there which cannot be solved.
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But take note all this are consolidated issues from hundreds of Forester owners in our chat group(s) and previous pages. It doesn't mean you will kena all of them at the same time or kena any of them at all. So keep an open eye. No car model is perfect.
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For tyres, according to the tech advisors, flat tyre change one�pairs can liao like normal B&B, don't need all 4s. The AWD is flexible enough to cater for it. change only 1 tyre is not advisable unless the the tyres are still low mileage.
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FC is subjective. For bros in the chat group(s) and here getting as high as 12km/l�and as low at 7km/l on local roads. My average is 8 to 9km/l with�highest been 10.5km/l and lowest being�7.5km/l�for most short-mid distance 70% urban driving.
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hope all this info helps.
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Thanks for the detailed explanation. Much appreciated it. By the way, i find the colour options for forester is unappealing but the colours for Levorg are more attractive. Does MI allow customers to choose other than the standard colour options or one has to find external workshop to respray it?�
Thanks for the detailed explanation. Much appreciated it. By the way, i find the colour options for forester is unappealing but the colours for Levorg are more attractive. Does MI allow customers to choose other than the standard colour options or one has to find external workshop to respray it?
Most of the owner are middle age with family. What type of colour you expecting?
Thanks for the detailed explanation. Much appreciated it. By the way, i find the colour options for forester is unappealing but the colours for Levorg are more attractive. Does MI allow customers to choose other than the standard colour options or one has to find external workshop to respray it?�
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While I totally agree with you on Forester's color options, unfortunately NONE of the car makers in the world will adhere to your request for custom paint�unless it's part of their option or the car is highly customized like a Bugatti Veyron.
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The Forester did had a short run for their Signature Blue Mica for that Forester tS lineup (like my avatar), but alas it's limited edition and strictly only in Japan and Australia market.
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I suggest you get used to the color options. Or you may do your own body wrap or respray but with added costs. But Factory paint is still the best.
Edited by Pocus, 28 August 2016 - 12:46 AM.
Most of the owner are middle age with family. What type of colour you expecting?
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Not looking for outrageous colour but I will be happy if the colour options on Levorg are available for Forester.�
While I totally agree with you on Forester's color options, unfortunately NONE of the car makers in the world will adhere to your request for custom paint�unless it's part of their option or the car is highly customized like a Bugatti Veyron.
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The Forester did had a short run for their Signature Blue Mica for that Forester tS lineup (like my avatar), but alas it's limited edition and strictly only in Japan and Australia market.
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I suggest you get used to the color options. Or you may do your own body wrap or respray but with added costs. But Factory paint is still the best.
The Signature Blue Mica is a nice colour. Its a pity that it's not available in Singapore.
My model comes with shark find but the HU does not have GPS (mine was just before MI announced the upgraded HU with gps). Don't think there is GSM as the phone is connected via Bluetooth. So... The shark fin is for what in this case?
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Looks like you and the FXT are not fated to be together....so many things not in sync. But then most if not all FXT owners buy it for the 240 horses..:Not looking for outrageous colour but I will be happy if the colour options on Levorg are available for Forester.
The Signature Blue Mica is a nice colour. Its a pity that it's not available in Singapore.
Edited by BenTong, 29 August 2016 - 06:09 AM.
New batches one from June 2016 come with GPS
Continental cars like BMWs definitely have the FM embedded in the rear windscreen above the heater matrix. If the car is not equipped with GPS or GSM, then the fin is for show only, makes your car look more sart kee. There may be a GPS receiver in there with wiring but not used (unlikely in modern manufacturing).
Anyway, I checked the 2015 FXT parts catalog, and I may be wrong... the FXT shark fin is indeed also the radio antenna, and that is actually bad news... that means it is a small antenna. When it comes to FM antennas, size DOES matter, that's why the old days the cars had antennas that you could pull out to extend, and back then even driving up around 100KM into NSHW we could still get reception for FM radio.
Take a look at this video, something most of us alredy know:
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For those who is interested to download the Forester 2016 User Manual in PDF format. You can search by word, which is better than flipping the physical manual.�
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How ever this is the North America version but many things are the same.
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https://carmanuals2....-s-manual-63441
wah. topic not moving at all...:)
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Based on Aug pricelist wo discount
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FNA 118K
FT 130K
LEvorg 131K
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Yah lor got 1 day no chat at allwah. topic not moving at all...:)
Based on Aug pricelist wo discount
FNA 118K
FT 130K
LEvorg 131K
Wa... Prices have gone up quite a bit...wah. topic not moving at all...:)
Based on Aug pricelist wo discount
FNA 118K
FT 130K
LEvorg 131K
Topic getting boring.. Unless talk about mods which many new fxt owners are probably not keen since mostly are family men... No need to install wat sprint booster or e throttle since got too much spare power on tap. No need install new sound system since the sound system is decent enough. No need install strut bar etc since got awd.
WA boring sia, we forester owners seem contented with our cars. :)
Dont know if I start to be more conscious or not but now at idling, seems the vibrations of the engine felt by my legs seems more obvious...even though its not really strong vibrations to begin with, just subtle.
Edited by Rachdanom, 01 September 2016 - 10:02 PM.
Hmm I getting to only 8k km. So far the car has been great. Can't feel anything during idling. What's your mileage?Waiting for issues to crop up lor...so no chat is good news.
Dont know if I start to be more conscious or not but now at idling, seems the vibrations of the engine felt by my legs seems more obvious...even though its not really strong vibrations to begin with, just subtle.
Wa... Prices have gone up quite a bit...
Topic getting boring.. Unless talk about mods which many new fxt owners are probably not keen since mostly are family men... No need to install wat sprint booster or e throttle since got too much spare power on tap. No need install new sound system since the sound system is decent enough. No need install strut bar etc since got awd.
WA boring sia, we forester owners seem contented with our cars. :)
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what does AWD has to do with effectiveness of strut bar?...
Thought awd is improve stability. And add strut bar also try to achieve the same purpose? Did some mods to my mark x last time. Handling nv improve a lot but ride comfort did take quite a hit lol. Then I realise that if the car is not designed with good handling in mind, then most of the add ons maybe not have much use. Maybe handling do get some improvements, but the trade off die ride confront is just not worth it for mewhat does AWD has to do with effectiveness of strut bar?...
Only coming to 3k.Hmm I getting to only 8k km. So far the car has been great. Can't feel anything during idling. What's your mileage?
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Peeling leather I think is just lousy Jap quality. Even Mazda have the same problem. Actually I would request NOT to have locally fitted leather. The quality does not seem fantastic. The original fabric from Japan is very good and will stay nicely fitted up to 10 years. I have seen some Suzuki Swift and Honda Stream coming to 10 years with original fabric and they look really good.
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yup factory fabric is the best. wonder why the majority like to replace with crap PVC/Leather locally.� but the best material is still Mercedes MBtex those w124 with 25year old MBtex can still look and feel almost like day1.
These are all FNAMeans that only change the rim before hand over to owner.
Let me start...Anyone experienced occasionally a little burning smell from the air con?
Maybe you re-circulation auto off and outside air come in.
Let me start...Anyone experienced occasionally a little burning smell from the air con?
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For me, not from the aircon, first �3 days I smell rubber burning smell after get off the car (After drive). especially near the rear wheels.�
Edited by thefalcon, 03 September 2016 - 12:45 AM.
Just wonder is the handbrake fully released?For me, not from the aircon, first 3 days I smell rubber burning smell after get off the car (After drive). especially near the rear wheels.
Just wonder is the handbrake fully released?
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Thought awd is improve stability. And add strut bar also try to achieve the same purpose? Did some mods to my mark x last time. Handling nv improve a lot but ride comfort did take quite a hit lol. Then I realise that if the car is not designed with good handling in mind, then most of the add ons maybe not have much use. Maybe handling do get some improvements, but the trade off die ride confront is just not worth it for me
Strut bars and other bars help to improve rigidity of the frame at the expense of comfort.�AWD I would more say for traction instead?
I would think it really depends on what level of handling is one looking for? for example harder mounts improve handling but you get to feel more of the road. worse for those who put in STI engine mounts.
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so maybe just stick with mostly stock. Strut bars should not hurt comfort level perceivably.
For me, not from the aircon, first �3 days I smell rubber burning smell after get off the car (After drive). especially near the rear wheels.�
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That's due to the exhaust burnout in new cars if you do some spirited driving. Not only our car, most new cars are like that.
The smell will usually occur if your do harsh driving and go off after a few months.
Let me start...Anyone experienced occasionally a little burning smell from the air con?
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Nope...make sure internal circulation is on.
Edited by Pocus, 04 September 2016 - 12:57 AM.
Wa... Prices have gone up quite a bit...
Topic getting boring.. Unless talk about mods which many new fxt owners are probably not keen since mostly are family men... No need to install wat sprint booster or e throttle since got too much spare power on tap. No need install new sound system since the sound system is decent enough. No need install strut bar etc since got awd.
WA boring sia, we forester owners seem contented with our cars. :)
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1) Sprint booster?? you kidding? You gone real boost from turbo you don't need an air-ram booster to simulate turbo. These device are not for turbo cars!
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2) e-throttle?? You mean e-throttle controller? You got I/S/S# mode, that's effectively a built-in e-throttle controller. You don't wear 2 x�N95 mask right?
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3) Our HU definitely has room for improvement. It's subjective by our Sound System if around 6/10 compare to most 10k systems.
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4) Strut Bars and AWD are not related. Strut Bars will not effect AWD and AWD is not linked to Strut Bars. Strut bar improves�steering response, body rolls�and chassis rigidity, AWD is mainly for traction, road control and wheels. However they work hand in hand to give you an overall handling experience.
Anyway my take is, the Forester is a large SUV with a wide body frame. The distance between the A-pillars and front strut is pretty far. Plus the top roof has a big hole that extends beyond the B-pillars.
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All this�makes Forester's body as clumsily flexible as a rubberband. There are many ways to improve the structure rigidity�of the car. Although having a rollcage is overkill for a passenger car, Strut bars and�braces�will definitely help to improve the rigidity and thus improving the steering and handling of the car.
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The front strut bar for this case is a worthy add-on.
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But if you buy the FXT by mistake (eg. buy a 250bhp car to drive at 90km/h max, staying off lane 1, rev lower at 3k rpm, getting 600km for 50l) then it's a waste of money to get the strut bar. In fact it's a waste of money to get the FXT, FNA should be suffice!! :p
Edited by Pocus, 04 September 2016 - 01:34 AM.
Anyway my take is, the Forester is a large SUV with a wide body frame. The distance between the A-pillars and front strut is pretty far. Plus the top roof has a big hole that extends beyond the B-pillars.
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All this�makes Forester's body as clumsily flexible as a rubberband. There are many ways to improve the structure rigidity�of the car. Although having a rollcage is overkill for a passenger car, Strut bars and�braces�will definitely help to improve the rigidity and thus improving the steering and handling of the car.
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The front strut bar for this case is a worthy add-on.
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But if you buy the FXT by mistake (eg. buy a 250bhp car to drive at 90km/h max, staying off lane 1, rev lower at 3k rpm, getting 600km for 50l) then it's a waste of money to get the strut bar. In fact it's a waste of money to get the FXT, FNA should be suffice!! :p
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Haa, I was just thinking that the other side (vezels, qq, etc.) got a lot of mods to zng their cars to make them run faster (if really any faster) whereas we don't need those stuff (of course they are also not suited for us). FXT on its own is pretty agile. I can do pretty quick lane changes and quickly pick up more speed and zoom off. Just this morning, got 1 qq (dunno 1.2 or 2.0) tried to come after me. I seriously dunno wat the bugger trying to do? Maybe testing his sprint booster or throttle crap, but heck it. Tot he was trying to entertain me a bit. Haiz, but it ran out of steam quickly and i was far far ahead of him liao.
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Big body, should be clumsy during tight manures or high speed around bends. I sure do feel the body rolls when i go round bends too fast, but the 4 wheels feel like they are superglued to the ground. FXT is pretty rigid enough. Even my friend's 320i can feel quite a bit of body rolls when he goes round corners too fast.
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BTw, I do rev below 3k rpm most of the time, but when exiting to exp way or overtaking i do rev >3k rpm, and I still get very close to 600km for 50L... This car is a lot more fuel efficient than I thought. I normally drive at around 110km/h on first lane if traffic permits.
Edited by mrhan1982, 04 September 2016 - 01:49 PM.
I think very soon we will see 1.5T civics challenging BMW 3 series and Mercs C200, and they get all delusional thinking that their civcs are really damn fast can outrun premium entry sedans...
Why you always thinking others driver want to race with you?Haa, I was just thinking that the other side (vezels, qq, etc.) got a lot of mods to zng their cars to make them run faster (if really any faster) whereas we don't need those stuff (of course they are also not suited for us). FXT on its own is pretty agile. I can do pretty quick lane changes and quickly pick up more speed and zoom off. Just this morning, got 1 qq (dunno 1.2 or 2.0) tried to come after me. I seriously dunno wat the bugger trying to do? Maybe testing his sprint booster or throttle crap, but heck it. Tot he was trying to entertain me a bit. Haiz, but it ran out of steam quickly and i was far far ahead of him liao.
Big body, should be clumsy during tight manures or high speed around bends. I sure do feel the body rolls when i go round bends too fast, but the 4 wheels feel like they are superglued to the ground. FXT is pretty rigid enough. Even my friend's 320i can feel quite a bit of body rolls when he goes round corners too fast.
BTw, I do rev below 3k rpm most of the time, but when exiting to exp way or overtaking i do rev >3k rpm, and I still get very close to 600km for 50L... This car is a lot more fuel efficient than I thought. I normally drive at around 110km/h on first lane if traffic permits.
They driving a bit faster does not mean they are challenging you...
Haa, I was just thinking that the other side (vezels, qq, etc.) got a lot of mods to zng their cars to make them run faster (if really any faster) whereas we don't need those stuff (of course they are also not suited for us). FXT on its own is pretty agile. I can do pretty quick lane changes and quickly pick up more speed and zoom off. Just this morning, got 1 qq (dunno 1.2 or 2.0) tried to come after me. I seriously dunno wat the bugger trying to do? Maybe testing his sprint booster or throttle crap, but heck it. Tot he was trying to entertain me a bit. Haiz, but it ran out of steam quickly and i was far far ahead of him liao.
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Big body, should be clumsy during tight manures or high speed around bends. I sure do feel the body rolls when i go round bends too fast, but the 4 wheels feel like they are superglued to the ground. FXT is pretty rigid enough. Even my friend's 320i can feel quite a bit of body rolls when he goes round corners too fast.
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BTw, I do rev below 3k rpm most of the time, but when exiting to exp way or overtaking i do rev >3k rpm, and I still get very close to 600km for 50L... This car is a lot more fuel efficient than I thought. I normally drive at around 110km/h on first lane if traffic permits.
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Old boy racer spotted.
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Forester must be damn heavy that you need to rev beyond 3k RPM to take� corner.
All in all, no regrets at all and my OC is loving it! Nothing much to complain except for the HU's USB function. Sorted by folders and it is not possible to jump to alphabet which means you will need to scroll a lot of pages to get to the last folder if you have a lot of them. With shuffle function switched on, pressing next will play the next song in the list and not a random song. Random playback will only occur after the end of the song. But then again, I think the HU on XT is the 7inch,better version and does not have all this problem. And if you are hardly on USB, then it is not an issue. Have to emphasise, other than this, the car is great!
I think very soon we will see 1.5T civics challenging BMW 3 series and Mercs C200, and they get all delusional thinking that their civcs are really damn fast can outrun premium entry sedans...
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why not? The Civic's century sprint timing is not to be sniffed at. But of course, whether it can corner as well as the RWD chassis can is a different question.
Btw, just curious, notice once the engine is on, daytime running lights will be on automatically even when headlight switch is off. Sometimes I just want to stay in the car and sort things out after parking and the lights are often misunderstood by other drivers thinking I am moving out. Read thru the manual but couldn't find anything on how to switch it off when parked. Anyone knows how to do so or is it possible?
No. You can't off it.
When you first started the engine, with the handbrake still engaged properly, the DRL is off. As soon you depressed handbrake, it switches DRL on.Btw, just curious, notice once the engine is on, daytime running lights will be on automatically even when headlight switch is off. Sometimes I just want to stay in the car and sort things out after parking and the lights are often misunderstood by other drivers thinking I am moving out. Read thru the manual but couldn't find anything on how to switch it off when parked. Anyone knows how to do so or is it possible?
Btw, just curious, notice once the engine is on, daytime running lights will be on automatically even when headlight switch is off. Sometimes I just want to stay in the car and sort things out after parking and the lights are often misunderstood by other drivers thinking I am moving out. Read thru the manual but couldn't find anything on how to switch it off when parked. Anyone knows how to do so or is it possible?
There are 2 mentions in the manual. In pg 3-97, all the headlights, including the DRL would be turned off if the lights stalk switch is rotated all the way 'down' meaning to the 'o' position. The DRL will be on if the headlights are set to the "Auto" position.
The second mention is in pg 3-100. It says in the note: "If the parking brake is applied when you start the engine, the daytime running light will illuminate when the parking brake is released."�I have not tested this 2nd scenario, but this could be why the DRL is on when your are parked.
Better than my FNA. 99% city drive give me ave 15L/100km.Hmm I getting to only 8k km. So far the car has been great. Can't feel anything during idling. What's your mileage?
Hopefully can afford to chance car with better FC when warranty expire
I think very soon we will see 1.5T civics challenging BMW 3 series and Mercs C200, and they get all delusional thinking that their civcs are really damn fast can outrun premium entry sedans...
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Bro u never played vtec before?
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Of my old rides:
1.6NA EG/EK > 316i > forester XT.
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I remember sometime back when you mentioned your driving pattern some of us discouraged you from the Forester since FC not its strongest point.Better than my FNA. 99% city drive give me ave 15L/100km.
Hopefully can afford to chance car with better FC when warranty expire
But in the end you went ahead and got it. Surely there must be something you like about it apart from the FC you are getting.
1. On engine, lights switch at off, hand brake still applied, DRL is off. DRL will only light up after hand brake is released.
2. Parked car, lights switch at off, apply hand brake, DRL is still on.
Hence, the DRL is activated upon release of hand brake. Application of hand brake won't off it. Think I will have to switch engine off after and restart engine again so that DRL is at off.
Like everything about Forester except the FC.I remember sometime back when you mentioned your driving pattern some of us discouraged you from the Forester since FC not its strongest point.
But in the end you went ahead and got it. Surely there must be something you like about it apart from the FC you are getting.
Btw, during that time, i didnt know that the FC is so bad. Thought some mentioned about 8 or 9Km/l FC for fxt. So i taken FNA assuming it has better FC. Turn out under my leg is even worst. Cant image after 5 yrs, how bad will the FC become. Probably 5km/l then
Luckily the Fuel tank is 60L instead of 50 L as my previous car. If no, i have to pump petrol twice instead of once a week.
Edited by Axela72, 04 September 2016 - 08:19 PM.
The Civic 1.5 turbo does have pretty decent figures on paper. 8sec century sprint is already considered mid range quick like our ride. And knowing Honda, they always tuned they throttle to be more responsive than other rides.I think very soon we will see 1.5T civics challenging BMW 3 series and Mercs C200, and they get all delusional thinking that their civcs are really damn fast can outrun premium entry sedans...
Considering its lower profile and lighter body, the civic will give even our FXT a run of our money (ok, maybe not since they are as expensive as the FXT)
My suggestion is show them some respect on the roads. Don't go pedal-happy and drqg race every tom dick or harry you see on the traffic light...
Edited by Pocus, 04 September 2016 - 08:09 PM.
The Civic 1.5 turbo does have pretty decent figures on paper. 8sec century sprint is already considered mid range quick like our ride. And knowing Honda, they always tuned they throttle to be more responsive than other rides.
Considering its lower profile and lighter body, the civic will give even our FXT a run of our money (ok, maybe not since they are as expensive as the FXT)
My suggestion is show them some respect on the roads. Don't go pedal-happy and drqg race every tom dick or harry you see on the traffic light..
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Drove EG/EK/FD before but getting old hence getting in and out of car is a concern for me, that's why i got the FXT. Like you said the 1.5T priced at FXT price is quite a turn off. �But if you consider the EK price when launch... this civic price is cheap... �Anyway, all are good car... just enjoy the ride.�
Like everything about Forester except the FC.
Btw, during that time, i didnt know that the FC is so bad. Thought some mentioned about 8 or 9Km/l FC for fxt. So i taken FNA assuming it has better FC. Turn out under my leg is even worst. Cant image after 5 yrs, how bad will the FC become. Probably 5km/l then
Luckily the Fuel tank is 60L instead of 50 L as my previous car. If no, i have to pump petrol twice instead of once a week.
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Anyone driving a Legacy? I'm considering getting this car or the Forester XT.
How's is the FC compare to the New Legacy 2.5 4WD. Forester XT 's getting around 1L/7km on heavy feet!
Any owners noticed this too?
Actually have you thought that based on you driving style and pattern, all cars out there may have bad FC eventually under your hands?Like everything about Forester except the FC.
Btw, during that time, i didnt know that the FC is so bad. Thought some mentioned about 8 or 9Km/l FC for fxt. So i taken FNA assuming it has better FC. Turn out under my leg is even worst. Cant image after 5 yrs, how bad will the FC become. Probably 5km/l then
Luckily the Fuel tank is 60L instead of 50 L as my previous car. If no, i have to pump petrol twice instead of once a week.
Eg. Even for hybrid cars, they still get bad FC under extra urban conditions and heavy foot cos the car will use the petrol engine more than the electric motor under such conditions.... As tested by top gear hosts.
Just a thought...lol
Edited by Pocus, 04 September 2016 - 09:34 PM.
I'm driving the latest Legacy 2.5i-S BN9. Uncle, but heavy-footed and impatient.Anyone driving a Legacy? I'm considering getting this car or the Forester XT.
How's is the FC compare to the New Legacy 2.5 4WD. Forester XT 's getting around 1L/7km on heavy feet!
Best single trip highway: 5.4L/100km.
Best week of highway-heavy driving: 8.3L/100km.
Usual average FC (95% city driving): 10L/100km.
Not really. Personal thought only, I feel that this car give the extreme best and worst FC compare to all my previous drives. All my previous drives gave�closer FC regardless city or expressway drive although there might�be a litre�or 2 difference. However, this�Forester�give me either�as�high as 6.5km/L�(100% city) or as low as�17.2km/L (100% expressway drive).�They are like almost 11km/L apart/difference.
To those whom utilize more frequent�on expressway will gain very much from this car on FC.
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To bad my driving route is the other way round.
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Actually have you thought that based on you driving style and pattern, all cars out there may have bad FC eventually under your hands?
Eg. Even for hybrid cars, they still get bad FC under extra urban conditions and heavy foot cos the car will use the petrol engine more than the electric motor under such conditions.... As tested by top gear hosts.
Just a thought...lol
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Like everything about Forester except the FC.
Btw, during that time, i didnt know that the FC is so bad. Thought some mentioned about 8 or 9Km/l FC for fxt. So i taken FNA assuming it has better FC. Turn out under my leg is even worst. Cant image after 5 yrs, how bad will the FC become. Probably 5km/l then
Luckily the Fuel tank is 60L instead of 50 L as my previous car. If no, i have to pump petrol twice instead of once a week.
You've scare off all potential forester buyers
like I say above, it depend the driver's route is more city�or expressway drive. To those whom travel more on expressway may have better or best FC as compare to other "real" SUV.
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Dont forget the law against keeping car engine idling. If I can I turn off emgine.Indeed, tested out on the DRL. These are the behaviour.
1. On engine, lights switch at off, hand brake still applied, DRL is off. DRL will only light up after hand brake is released.
2. Parked car, lights switch at off, apply hand brake, DRL is still on.
Hence, the DRL is activated upon release of hand brake. Application of hand brake won't off it. Think I will have to switch engine off after and restart engine again so that DRL is at off.
i thought you bought FXT?
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Better than my FNA. 99% city drive give me ave 15L/100km.
Hopefully can afford to chance car with better FC when warranty expire
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Put up a sail on your roof. Let the wind do the job, hug more trees.
Like everything about Forester except the FC.
Btw, during that time, i didnt know that the FC is so bad. Thought some mentioned about 8 or 9Km/l FC for fxt. So i taken FNA assuming it has better FC. Turn out under my leg is even worst. Cant image after 5 yrs, how bad will the FC become. Probably 5km/l then
Luckily the Fuel tank is 60L instead of 50 L as my previous car. If no, i have to pump petrol twice instead of once a week.
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I used to drive a Legacy 2.0NA, somehow I feel the engine build quality is very good. From 1st year to 9th year when I scrap it the FC have stayed consistent at 10+ km/l apart from some minor ups and downs as I change different tyres or travel pattern.�
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Hope this can give you some assurance, Subaru make good cars and I give it a thumbs up after owning it for 9 years�
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Not really. Personal thought only, I feel that this car give the extreme best and worst FC compare to all my previous drives. All my previous drives gave�closer FC regardless city or expressway drive although there might�be a litre�or 2 difference. However, this�Forester�give me either�as�high as 6.5km/L�(100% city) or as low as�17.2km/L (100% expressway drive).�They are like almost 11km/L apart/difference.
To those whom utilize more frequent�on expressway will gain very much from this car on FC.
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To bad my driving route is the other way round.
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You must be 1 of those who cheong all the way & e-brake at traffic light?
Yes. So it seem like this car is not suitable for my kind of diriving style as compare with other brands with regards to FCYou must be 1 of those who cheong all the way & e-brake at traffic light?
Alamak.. The FXT would be more suitable for you compared to FNA..Yes. So it seem like this car is not suitable for my kind of diriving style as compare with other brands with regards to FC
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