The 3m material itself dun look very convincing as it's quite thin and they only put single layer. Normally outside workshop recommend stp material of various grade and show u how thick it is, etc... But those are the foam types which are similar to the $580 package from clasani which mI offers.
So you actually got MI to confirm the 3M product info? Steady lah, bro. I couldn't get anything out of them. Of course they never show you how thick, etc. Bet you most at MI don't even know. As for STP stuff, not just foam-based lah, got a huge range of materials, which is why STP's official local distributor RF Electronics, recommends a combination of STP materials in order to damp the widest range of frequencies.
The verdict is... This shit really works!!! Can hear improvement in sound quality! When music off, wind noise is very much reduced at 100km/h. I tried very hard to hear wind noise at 100km/h but could hardly detect any. Of course road noise sound the same to me and I already have clasani undercarriage coating. For $680 (minus $100 coz I use duo points) I think it's quite worth it. The 3m material is good quality and can withstand high heat so it wun melt. I've checked all 4 doors panels and the workmanship was flawless. All 4 doors now close with a nicer thud. So to me it's quite worthwhile investment. Best part is my hk sound system now sound better.
Thanks for your review, this is great news for the rest of us considering it, and wondering how it stacks up against STP installations. When you say you checked the workmanship, did you look inside your door panels?
Regarding the engine oil leak. I've tried 5w30 (Mobil and Royal purple) on 1 Altis and 1 civic fd1. Both at about 80k mileage. Engine oil consumption is normal actually as long as the quantity is small. Most continental cars consume engine oil like siao after 5 years old. Lol... Motul 300v 5w40 will be my next choice for 10k service.
At 80k mileage, it's very hard to say what causes leakages leh. By that point, so much wear and tear liao. I've had both oil and water leakages around that mileage in my old cars too - in my case, caused by worn-out gaskets.
Royal purple is pure evil. It's super silky smooth and u can really feel the improved response. Only thing is after 2 oil change, some of the seals start to leak lol.
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I have been using RP 20w50 HPS in my current Subaru for a few years. Engine has no discernable oil leak/loss after few K km hard driving in Msia.
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perhaps it is not the oil that caused the leak in your experience.
The service guy (kelvin) is pretty good. He was patient and explained to me about shell helix oil for fxt. This oil actually makes your car feels sluggish straight after oil change. It take about 1-2k km then the response will improve. Hmm I felt the same thing. Indeed, this shell oil is total crap. Lol. Anyway I use it for my 5k servicing since it's free.
I go to Toa Payoh too, and Kelvin does seem to be a great guy who does his best. He's the one who showed me the 3M panel samples, but he's also the one who couldn't give me exact product info, though I asked him to check and get back to me (he never did). Maybe he did check, and that's why he could tell you, lol. Hmm, engine oil that's supposed to make your call feel like crap right after an oil change, when it's supposed to feel the best. Interesting. Hai, I'd better not comment further, bro.
Sent in for 5k servicing today. They told me 5k Can still use shell oil since it's free and only using it for another 5k. 10k onwards can choose mirt 5w40 at $17+ or motul 300v 5w40 racing for $70+. The 300v sounds like good deal.
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stockists selling 300v for abt SGD23/L. It goes for less during sale n bulk purchase.
They dunno the exact part number for the 3m material. But touching it and checking 3m range of products, I think it should be the one. It's sold on Amazon at $22 usd for a sheet 50cmx50cm. So if need 4 sheets, total cost of material including shipping should be at most $150 sing. WA, MI just made a fat profit out of me. Lol...So you actually got MI to confirm the 3M product info? Steady lah, bro. I couldn't get anything out of them. Of course they never show you how thick, etc. Bet you most at MI don't even know. As for STP stuff, not just foam-based lah, got a huge range of materials, which is why STP's official local distributor RF Electronics, recommends a combination of STP materials in order to damp the widest range of frequencies.
Thanks for your review, this is great news for the rest of us considering it, and wondering how it stacks up against STP installations. When you say you checked the workmanship, did you look inside your door panels?
At 80k mileage, it's very hard to say what causes leakages leh. By that point, so much wear and tear liao. I've had both oil and water leakages around that mileage in my old cars too - in my case, caused by worn-out gaskets.
I can't possibly check the interior of the door panels. I only checked that all panels are properly clipped in place. Lol and after knocking all over the 4 panels , it sound like the pad was uniformly applied. Personally, I didn't had good experience with stp products. But they do looked a whole lot impressive compared to the 3m ones.
Both the Altis and civic were pretty well maintained with all seals changed at 60k before I screwed them up with the engine oils bought from Amazon. Lol. I bought a whole range of 30 weights oil from various brands to try in the past. Even fed my old mark x with 30 weight oil, didn't bother to check the engine condition before selling it.
Comparing with competition
Omv abt $20K 1.5L engine for a 1200kg car for $112k.
I'm seriously tearing my brains and heart...always wanted a forester. But my brain always says no.
I was using the 5w30 HPS. Great oil, dark purple colour even my mechanic also double confirm with me before pouring in. Lol. Maybe it was a coincidence that both my Altis and civic had leaks.huh?
I have been using RP 20w50 HPS in my current Subaru for a few years. Engine has no discernable oil leak/loss after few K km hard driving in Msia.
perhaps it is not the oil that caused the leak in your experience.
My fxt need 5.1L for a full drain and top up. Gonna cost around $100... Very ex engine oil. So I tot MI offer at $70 plus sounds good.stockists selling 300v for abt SGD23/L. It goes for less during sale n bulk purchase.
Erm, what has the weight of the car gotta do with omv? Forester is a awd mid size suv/ crossover with proper rear independent suspension. Those 1.5L compact cross overs are fwd with rear torsion beam setup. Totally different categories of vehicles leh.Forester OMV is low at abt $17K 2L engine for a 1500 kg car for $117k.
Comparing with competition
Omv abt $20K 1.5L engine for a 1200kg car for $112k.
I'm seriously tearing my brains and heart...always wanted a forester. But my brain always says no.
For eg my fxt omv is 19,700 and I bought it for $120k. For the price, performance, safety and interior space, got competition meh??? Ok la the weight is 1.67ton lor.
Edited by mrhan1982, 21 July 2016 - 05:50 PM.
Comment la. Ok one. Actually I should have top up $17+ to try their mirt oil hor. Dunno wat I thinking. Lol. After spending $600 plus on door sound proofing I go and save $17. Hmm at least I can use it to pay for my grabcar rides. LolI go to Toa Payoh too, and Kelvin does seem to be a great guy who does his best. He's the one who showed me the 3M panel samples, but he's also the one who couldn't give me exact product info, though I asked him to check and get back to me (he never did). Maybe he did check, and that's why he could tell you, lol. Hmm, engine oil that's supposed to make your call feel like crap right after an oil change, when it's supposed to feel the best. Interesting. Hai, I'd better not comment further, bro.
WA, MI just made a fat profit out of me. Lol...
I can't possibly check the interior of the door panels. I only checked that all panels are properly clipped in place. Lol and after knocking all over the 4 panels , it sound like the pad was uniformly applied. Personally, I didn't had good experience with stp products. But they do looked a whole lot impressive compared to the 3m ones.
It's okay bro, I've decides there's no way I'm DIYing sound insulation (lazy, sian, etc) either so someone's going to make a fat profit from me too. Bo pian.
Yup, I remember you did STP Silver before. And I take it this 3M installation's turned out far more effective than that one. I've heard that our Subaru door panels are actually quite easy to remove to check stuff but dunno how true.
Comment la. Ok one. Actually I should have top up $17+ to try their mirt oil hor. Dunno wat I thinking. Lol. After spending $600 plus on door sound proofing I go and save $17. Hmm at least I can use it to pay for my grabcar rides. Lol
I just don't like the way MI's bullying us into using heavy oils by using FUD. Yar, try the Mirt next time and give us your review leh. My review for Motul H-Tech 100 Plus 0W20 is that it's pretty awesome, heh.
Forester OMV is low at abt $17K 2L engine for a 1500 kg car for $117k.
Comparing with competition
Omv abt $20K 1.5L engine for a 1200kg car for $112k.
I'm seriously tearing my brains and heart...always wanted a forester. But my brain always says no.
Why get hung up on OMV? Yes, you get half back when you scrap, but a $3k difference in OMV works out to only $1.5k more in PARF rebate. So as long as the locally-installed stuff MI gives you is worth more than $1.5k (and it is), then net net you're ahead. Personally, I think MI's approach to minimising OMV's fine.
Edited by Muser, 21 July 2016 - 07:05 PM.
It's normal. The holes are for securing the mud flap which is an optional item.
Here is the photo from my car.
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Thanks for the picture. First time i see one and it looks good. Is it from MI? Mind sharing the cost of this?Here is the photo from my car.
Where did u get the mud flap? MI?Here is the photo from my car.
Thanks for the picture. First time i see one and it looks good. Is it from MI? Mind sharing the cost of this?
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Here you go, give you some insight on how easy it is for the door panel to be remove.Seems like an impressive DIY. Got video or life streaming ?
If done on Forester XT, mind to help out Bros here ? Ie : tools needed, what to watch out for ? Etc.
How to embed YouTube video?
https://m.youtube.co...h?v=MQXVOtRhgdw
Edited by Kayaloti, 22 July 2016 - 04:18 PM.
Been reading this forum.
Currently driving Volvo S60 ,,looking for suv, have not own before, looking for something different.
Test drove the forester 2.0xt, Audi q3, BMW X1, qasqhai, xtrail....
Finally decided on forester, the Nissan xtrail a little breathless, q3 is very plain n bare bone, X1 is nice but drive is not as nice. Besides xtrail, q3 is 30+k more n X1 is $60k more, list price to list price compare, not worth that kind of dollar.
From drive and feature perspective, it's paying for the batch mostly, but finishing is much better in the German camp, especially x1, but not worth even taking that into consideration. Also looked at q5, n x3, both exiting model and 100+k more....
One more thing, Audi SE ask me to try the brand new a4, actually it's rather good, even the 1.4 is quite good,,finishing is much much better than q3, price same as q3, make the q3 look even worse, but not looking for sedan.
Forester, especially the xt is well equipped and finishing and built is not bad at all, not too shabby considering the huge price difference, with a more superior drive and power, the huge price difference gets even wider and make the premium German camp looks even more "poor proposition"
Anyway to each his own, that just my 2 cents.
So booked the xt, at $126800 after all so called discount
Non guarantee COE 8 bids
COE rebate is at $50000
Pearl white Color
Change leather to red, not Chilli red but a darker little brownish red
Added front and back camera.
Freebie, not much...gotten 3A matt and manage to get SE to throw in auto fold for door mirror.
Was told by SE, latest registered customer the OMV is $20555, due to stronger yen, not sure how true.
Just check with owners here, what's the average number of bids under non guarantee scheme to successful.
I am a little puzzle with latest COE for CAT B at $57500, an increase of $1500 the price no change, how this will impact success rate of COE bidding.....though been owning few cars over the years still rather confuse how this stupid COE works, hahahaha
Driving xt for 2 weeks.... Happy so far so is missy and kids....
Quite loaded with features and turbo is powerful
Tested Q5 too but put put off by Audi Se answer to my question why no lane departure and blind side detection.his answer was audi designed for autobahn hence no need for city safety features,,,,,!
8 bid NG too.got it at 2nd round...
Xt model has more margins so at ur entry price can secure Coe easily unless coe go beyond 62k
Hi all ,
Been reading this forum.
Currently driving Volvo S60 ,,looking for suv, have not own before, looking for something different.
Test drove the forester 2.0xt, Audi q3, BMW X1, qasqhai, xtrail....
Finally decided on forester, the Nissan xtrail a little breathless, q3 is very plain n bare bone, X1 is nice but drive is not as nice. Besides xtrail, q3 is 30+k more n X1 is $60k more, list price to list price compare, not worth that kind of dollar.
From drive and feature perspective, it's paying for the batch mostly, but finishing is much better in the German camp, especially x1, but not worth even taking that into consideration. Also looked at q5, n x3, both exiting model and 100+k more....
One more thing, Audi SE ask me to try the brand new a4, actually it's rather good, even the 1.4 is quite good,,finishing is much much better than q3, price same as q3, make the q3 look even worse, but not looking for sedan.
Forester, especially the xt is well equipped and finishing and built is not bad at all, not too shabby considering the huge price difference, with a more superior drive and power, the huge price difference gets even wider and make the premium German camp looks even more "poor proposition"
Anyway to each his own, that just my 2 cents.
So booked the xt, at $126800 after all so called discount
Non guarantee COE 8 bids
COE rebate is at $50000
Pearl white Color
Change leather to red, not Chilli red but a darker little brownish red
Added front and back camera.
Freebie, not much...gotten 3A matt and manage to get SE to throw in auto fold for door mirror.
Was told by SE, latest registered customer the OMV is $20555, due to stronger yen, not sure how true.
Just check with owners here, what's the average number of bids under non guarantee scheme to successful.
I am a little puzzle with latest COE for CAT B at $57500, an increase of $1500 the price no change, how this will impact success rate of COE bidding.....though been owning few cars over the years still rather confuse how this stupid COE works, hahahaha
Driving xt for 2 weeks.... Happy so far so is missy and kids....
Quite loaded with features and turbo is powerful
Tested Q5 too but put put off by Audi Se answer to my question why no lane departure and blind side detection.his answer was audi designed for autobahn hence no need for city safety features,,,,,!
8 bid NG too.got it at 2nd round...
Xt model has more margins so at ur entry price can secure Coe easily unless coe go beyond 62k
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Mine is 2 months + now, the best add-ons i did are the undercarriage coating, 4 door sound proof and auto fold mirrors. All done by MI. sorry for all the poisons :)
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I even tried the X3. At 100k+ more, the ride sure feels more premium but it comes with a poorer sound system. Suspension felt stiffer and for the premium paid, u still experience more or less the same amount of body roll as the xt. the x3 xdrive doesn't do any magic for the extra 100k+ premium... Really not worth. Interior space is about same too.
I signed with 8 bids non-G, but got in 1 bid.
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I see that u have tried quite a number of suv/crossovers before settling on the fxt. I did too. after trying out all, the verdict was... the fxt has no compettion. Not to say its the best suv in the world, but at the price bracket and feature list, there is nothing to compare with.�
Good choice bro!
Hi all ,
Been reading this forum.
Currently driving Volvo S60 ,,looking for suv, have not own before, looking for something different.
Test drove the forester 2.0xt, Audi q3, BMW X1, qasqhai, xtrail....
Finally decided on forester, the Nissan xtrail a little breathless, q3 is very plain n bare bone, X1 is nice but drive is not as nice. Besides xtrail, q3 is 30+k more n X1 is $60k more, list price to list price compare, not worth that kind of dollar.
From drive and feature perspective, it's paying for the batch mostly, but finishing is much better in the German camp, especially x1, but not worth even taking that into consideration. Also looked at q5, n x3, both exiting model and 100+k more....
One more thing, Audi SE ask me to try the brand new a4, actually it's rather good, even the 1.4 is quite good,,finishing is much much better than q3, price same as q3, make the q3 look even worse, but not looking for sedan.
Forester, especially the xt is well equipped and finishing and built is not bad at all, not too shabby considering the huge price difference, with a more superior drive and power, the huge price difference gets even wider and make the premium German camp looks even more "poor proposition"
Anyway to each his own, that just my 2 cents.
So booked the xt, at $126800 after all so called discount
Non guarantee COE 8 bids
COE rebate is at $50000
Pearl white Color
Change leather to red, not Chilli red but a darker little brownish red
Added front and back camera.
Freebie, not much...gotten 3A matt and manage to get SE to throw in auto fold for door mirror.
Was told by SE, latest registered customer the OMV is $20555, due to stronger yen, not sure how true.
Just check with owners here, what's the average number of bids under non guarantee scheme to successful.
I am a little puzzle with latest COE for CAT B at $57500, an increase of $1500 the price no change, how this will impact success rate of COE bidding.....though been owning few cars over the years still rather confuse how this stupid COE works, hahahaha
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My friend ordered the manual base rex and will be get his car in aug/sept. He read that the auto cvt gearbox is quite weak if looking to do up the car.. Lets say up hp to abv 300 and torque to above 400nm.
Can i say the same for FXT CVT gearbox?
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Previous Legacy 2.0GT already have DIT 300hp on CVT, no issue lah
Anyway what difference does it make?
Also seems the tyre size 225/55 R18 is difficult to find. The rim is 18 inches but the width is 7 inches, difficult, 7.5 will be better I feel.
What is the undercarriage coating for? Anti-rust? Thought all subframe etc are coated with anti rust and primed? All modern cars do.
Anyway what difference does it make?
Also seems the tyre size 225/55 R18 is difficult to find. The rim is 18 inches but the width is 7 inches, difficult, 7.5 will be better I feel.
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Undercarriage coating with anti-rust from Clasani has 2 impacts: 1) Make u $290 poorer, 2) makes your car about 10kg heavier.
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I will changing to Michelin Latitude 235/50/18 next time, but i think the bridgestones will last pretty long...
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Undercarriage coating with anti-rust from Clasani has 2 impacts: 1) Make u $290 poorer, 2) makes your car about 10kg heavier.
I will changing to Michelin Latitude 235/50/18 next time, but i think the bridgestones will last pretty long...
After doing undercarridge and door sound proof, now i feel the road noise more, hiaz .. lol must be the bridgestones!
After doing more road noise? Confused.
235/50 R18, same overall diameter ?
7 inches rim width can fit 235? Hmm thought max is 225.
Sounds like you journey to "sound proof" just started... :)Undercarriage coating with anti-rust from Clasani has 2 impacts: 1) Make u $290 poorer, 2) makes your car about 10kg heavier.
I will changing to Michelin Latitude 235/50/18 next time, but i think the bridgestones will last pretty long...
After doing undercarridge and door sound proof, now i feel the road noise more, hiaz .. lol must be the bridgestones!
What's so difficult? Get the $20k omv 1.5L engine 1200kg car for $112k lor if the purpose is so logically good. Go go go.. Don't think so muchForester OMV is low at abt $17K 2L engine for a 1500 kg car for $117k.
Comparing with competition
Omv abt $20K 1.5L engine for a 1200kg car for $112k.
I'm seriously tearing my brains and heart...always wanted a forester. But my brain always says no.
If don't like then sell and buy again.
I heard of people sell that car u described after 1 year and change to forester.
You didn't test drive the Merc GLC ?Hi all ,
Been reading this forum.
Currently driving Volvo S60 ,,looking for suv, have not own before, looking for something different.
Test drove the forester 2.0xt, Audi q3, BMW X1, qasqhai, xtrail....
Finally decided on forester, the Nissan xtrail a little breathless, q3 is very plain n bare bone, X1 is nice but drive is not as nice. Besides xtrail, q3 is 30+k more n X1 is $60k more, list price to list price compare, not worth that kind of dollar.
From drive and feature perspective, it's paying for the batch mostly, but finishing is much better in the German camp, especially x1, but not worth even taking that into consideration. Also looked at q5, n x3, both exiting model and 100+k more....
One more thing, Audi SE ask me to try the brand new a4, actually it's rather good, even the 1.4 is quite good,,finishing is much much better than q3, price same as q3, make the q3 look even worse, but not looking for sedan.
Forester, especially the xt is well equipped and finishing and built is not bad at all, not too shabby considering the huge price difference, with a more superior drive and power, the huge price difference gets even wider and make the premium German camp looks even more "poor proposition"
Anyway to each his own, that just my 2 cents.
So booked the xt, at $126800 after all so called discount
Non guarantee COE 8 bids
COE rebate is at $50000
Pearl white Color
Change leather to red, not Chilli red but a darker little brownish red
Added front and back camera.
Freebie, not much...gotten 3A matt and manage to get SE to throw in auto fold for door mirror.
Was told by SE, latest registered customer the OMV is $20555, due to stronger yen, not sure how true.
Just check with owners here, what's the average number of bids under non guarantee scheme to successful.
I am a little puzzle with latest COE for CAT B at $57500, an increase of $1500 the price no change, how this will impact success rate of COE bidding.....though been owning few cars over the years still rather confuse how this stupid COE works, hahahaha
After doing more road noise? Confused.
235/50 R18, same overall diameter ?
7 inches rim width can fit 235? Hmm thought max is 225.
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after doing undercarridge, less road noise but feel the wind noise more apparent. Then do doors, then wind noise reduce, then feel road noise more apparent. In short, sound proofing is an endless game lol. Noise cannot be totally eliminated.
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got some bros here running 235/50/18 on stock fxt rims. overall diameter slightly off, very slightly only so should be ok.
You didn't test drive the Merc GLC ?
I did try but not on the same day, still don't think it's worth that $100+ k diff, if I recall its $240+K or $230+k. Also the merc interior a bit too loud for my liking.
One Brother actually postulated that it's the Drivers ear drums that needs tuning..after doing undercarridge, less road noise but feel the wind noise more apparent. Then do doors, then wind noise reduce, then feel road noise more apparent. In short, sound proofing is an endless game lol. Noise cannot be totally eliminated.
got some bros here running 235/50/18 on stock fxt rims. overall diameter slightly off, very slightly only so should be ok.
My last ride is a BMW F10..its noisy i can tell you..i recently seat in my friend's FXT which he got 3 months ago..was impressed with the sound insulation..his FXT is stock with no add on insulation..although not lexus quiet..its quite good compare with the SUVs in its class..but again sound is very individual.. :)The clasani is $580 only $100 cheaper. so i took the 3m lol. but the car is indeed quieter. Road noise hard to eliminate as roads conditions are bad these days. Ok i'll have to live with that.
i went to sit at my friend's 320 again, and its actually noiser...the road noise is quite unbearable actually...maybe coz its on 18 inch low profile sports tires and it sits much closer to the road.
Edited by Legacygts, 23 July 2016 - 01:10 PM.
I book FNA 8bids NG, late May after the new loan rule. Also never get COE after 4bids.I booked FNA beginning of June but still haven't get COE. Mine 3rd bid still not successful.
Thanks for sharing your experienceHi WML888..not too sure how to reply you from your comment as i am a newbie here..
What i meant was that the start off from stop is slow to react when you step on the accelerator on GLC..dont know why but its like the car is on hibernating mode although the start/stop is switch off..but once the car gain speed, its quite a breeze..that might explain why GLC is around 7+ sec..
On FXT, when you step on the accelerator at stop to move..its reacts faster although not as fast as DSG or ZF gearbox..but its definitely not slow as GLC in moving off..thats my feel.. :)
Yours is Fxt. Current bidder that miss their 4th bid is NA. Does both margin the same? or NA is better?My FXT price is base on $38k COE. I signed for 6 bid NG.
The COE for my FXT is $47k. And they revise my bid on the the final mins to $49k+.
So a price different of $10k on the COE should not be a problem.
How much are they selling the NA at June after all the discount?
if driver of the black FL Forester STi black edition at ARC this morning is here, nice ride with the GC05 and Brembos....
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I think wrong lah, bro, not that it makes any difference in your case. I'm still on the fence, hahah.Hmm, dunno if i got hear wrongly haaa.
i think it adds about 8-10kg for all 4 doors. i'm already 100kg, so 10kg is nuttin hehehe....
8-10kg in total seems great for bitumen-based insulation panels. I wonder how much lighter the foam-based Clasani door insulation panels would be. What did you say your weight estimate was for our Clasani undercarriage coatings?
I would say it depends if you need the car urgently. Some may had sold off their car and would need a new car very soon, hence go for top up. COE had rocketed since then but MI bidded higher than the COE we got (at least for me). I would say if COE drop a little in the next one or two bid, weMy SE did not mention about stock arrival...but now she don't sound so confident as compare when I signed.
She even suggest top up to increase COE chances...
stand a good chance of securing. There are 4 bids still so if you can wait, I suggest wait and see how it goes during the next 2. consider only top up if still can't get after that. My thoughts. Btw, how much did MI bid for you during the last few bids, is it far off?
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maybe the next bmw driver to run over a cyclist can use the alibi he cannot hear it because his car too loudInsulation btw Lexus and BMW. Of course, lexus win big time. Otherwise, how could someone tell the judge that she run over cyclist w/o hearing it?
all atas cars....judge may also accept
As advertised on STime is $114,800.How much are they selling the NA at June after all the discount?
Then it went into workshop for a 2-week repair. Replacement rental was previous model Forester 2.0X registered in 2012. Comparison is like chalk and cheese. Everything about FXT is better:
- Torque and Power - I dare to do things with FXT that I wouldn't otherwise
- Strength and Stability, confidence in motion
- Amazingly, despite above, the FC is better: 10-10.5 v 9-9.5 km/l
- Natural responsive steering and just the right-size steering wheel
- Smooth linear CVT - so easy to drive
- Solid brakes
- Higher ride height
- Interior cabin materials
- Climate control
- NWH is well controlled (don't really think additional sp is needed)
- Rear-view mirrors - placement at the door and size gives a really good view
- HK sound is balanced and with good bass, it's really good to me (I'm not an audiophile even though I have a decent Hi-Fi set up at home)
- Long list of bells and whistles
FXT is a really good car. The improvements made by Subaru all round is stunning. No surprise it's such a best-seller that they can't make enough of it. Told that since December, MI has been selling 300 units/month up from 200.
And let me say that I'm very pleased with the repair job and the fantastic service staff at MI. Kudos.
Glad to see a nice review on the fxt by a bro here. I'm driving the FL fxt current. Sometimes, i just wanna share with others how great the fxt is but I'm trying to be modest and often just keep my mouth shout. After trying quite a number of German rides, I actually tot that they r not that fantastic as I had initially expected. Maybe I had expected more due to the higher pricing and better branding.My pre-FL-FXT was rear-ended. Sturdy fella still drove well after for 2-weeks, even up NSHW to KL, while insurance got sorted out.
Then it went into workshop for a 2-week repair. Replacement rental was previous model Forester 2.0X registered in 2012. Comparison is like chalk and cheese. Everything about FXT is better:
- Torque and Power - I dare to do things with FXT that I wouldn't otherwise
- Strength and Stability, confidence in motion
- Amazingly, despite above, the FC is better: 10-10.5 v 9-9.5 km/l
- Natural responsive steering and just the right-size steering wheel
- Smooth linear CVT - so easy to drive
- Solid brakes
- Higher ride height
- Interior cabin materials
- Climate control
- NWH is well controlled (don't really think additional sp is needed)
- Rear-view mirrors - placement at the door and size gives a really good view
- HK sound is balanced and with good bass, it's really good to me (I'm not an audiophile even though I have a decent Hi-Fi set up at home)
- Long list of bells and whistles
FXT is a really good car. The improvements made by Subaru all round is stunning. No surprise it's such a best-seller that they can't make enough of it. Told that since December, MI has been selling 300 units/month up from 200.
And let me say that I'm very pleased with the repair job and the fantastic service staff at MI. Kudos.
Got to agreed that the service staff at MI are great.
I did 3 layers of the different Clasani undercarriage coatings (anti-rust + sounds dampening + undercarriage protector) so I sure hope that doesn't mean I'm carrying around 30kg. I'm going to optimistically assume the sound dampening coating is the heaviest, so hopefully my Legacy's total weight gain's no more than 20kg so far. Road noise bugged me the most though and it's been significantly reduced so even if I put on lots of weight, it was worth it.Yeah the bitumen sample feels heavy. The door feels heavier and less hollow. I was told the clasani undercarriage coating weighs about 10kg. So now my car is 1670kg + 20kg = 1690kg. This is same weight as BMW 5 series Liao. Almost 1.7 ton. Plus me just nice 1.7 ton.
The thing about sound proofing is that once u get used to the quieter ride, u tend to take it for granted after a while. Until u go take other people's rides then u will appreciate your ride again. Lol...
You're driving FXT-model tank now, issit? No lah, 1.7 ton not that bad yet lah. And that's the beauty of heaving more torque and hp than you strictly need for local roads - you can handle weight gain easily. Power to spare is useful.
Change Shock. Good for forester.
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Glad to see a nice review on the fxt by a bro here. I'm driving the FL fxt current. Sometimes, i just wanna share with others how great the fxt is but I'm trying to be modest and often just keep my mouth shout. After trying quite a number of German rides, I actually tot that they r not that fantastic as I had initially expected. Maybe I had expected more due to the higher pricing and better branding.
Got to agreed that the service staff at MI are great.
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Bro, there are plenty of FXT reviews here if you really read the whole thread, including one written by me.
Its just that after awhile when the honeymoon period is over then you start to realize some of the weakness of this car and wished they fixed them.
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However despite those drawbacks, it's still a blast to drive after 1 year of ownership.
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You r not alone bro..my previous few rides were all german and 1 uk..and i am with you that they r not that fantastic..other than their prestiges badge..Glad to see a nice review on the fxt by a bro here. I'm driving the FL fxt current. Sometimes, i just wanna share with others how great the fxt is but I'm trying to be modest and often just keep my mouth shout. After trying quite a number of German rides, I actually tot that they r not that fantastic as I had initially expected. Maybe I had expected more due to the higher pricing and better branding.
Got to agreed that the service staff at MI are great.
It took alot of decision before i decided to come back to jap cars after more than 10 years..and i am glad i chose FXT..
On my last comment on bmw and lexus quiet..for bro who dont understand what i am driving at..i am saying that my F10 dont have great insulation as compared to FXT..where else my previous lexus is dead quiet..i m not comparing bmw and lexus..each has their plus points..FXT too..it has its plus points and negative points..i m just trying to be objective here..
Read your review. It was a good one! At its price, I feel it s the best bang for buck in today's market :)Bro, there are plenty of FXT reviews here if you really read the whole thread, including one written by me.
Its just that after awhile when the honeymoon period is over then you start to realize some of the weakness of this car and wished they fixed them.
However despite those drawbacks, it's still a blast to drive after 1 year of ownership.
No regrets from me...
I bought the Mazda CX-5 when it first came out at a much higher price and believe me, that car has many more drawbacks compared to our fxt. Despite the big hoo haa on how fantastic mazda's handling is, dunno wat 1 man 1 horse, blah.... The handling was indeed good at low speeds, but it fare terribly at higher speeds and least to say in poor weathers. And of course, u need to be patient to get to higher speeds. Hah. If not for the good pricing of the fxt, an average joe like me will nv have a chance to own such a good car like the fxt.
Well, I'm one happy fxt owner as well. Quite some marvellous engineering by Subaru!
Edited by mrhan1982, 25 July 2016 - 09:30 AM.
Yup i agree with u Lexus are pretty damn quiet. Sat in a gs300 before and I nv experience the same level of quietness in a 3 or 5 series ( both current gen). Also sat in a previous gen A4 and omg the suspension was so stiff and uncomfortable... I often take my friend's Jetta 1.4tsi, handling, comfort and performance seriously nuttin to rave about for the price.You r not alone bro..my previous few rides were all german and 1 uk..and i am with you that they r not that fantastic..other than their prestiges badge..
It took alot of decision before i decided to come back to jap cars after more than 10 years..and i am glad i chose FXT..
On my last comment on bmw and lexus quiet..for bro who dont understand what i am driving at..i am saying that my F10 dont have great insulation as compared to FXT..where else my previous lexus is dead quiet..i m not comparing bmw and lexus..each has their plus points..FXT too..it has its plus points and negative points..i m just trying to be objective here..
The clasani under coat got so many layers!? I didn't know. I paid $290 for mine. How much u paid for yours? I only saw 2 piece of stickers on boot window with clasani on it. Not sure I got the sound damping for under carriage.I did 3 layers of the different Clasani undercarriage coatings (anti-rust + sounds dampening + undercarriage protector) so I sure hope that doesn't mean I'm carrying around 30kg. I'm going to optimistically assume the sound dampening coating is the heaviest, so hopefully my Legacy's total weight gain's no more than 20kg so far. Road noise bugged me the most though and it's been significantly reduced so even if I put on lots of weight, it was worth it.
You're driving FXT-model tank now, issit? No lah, 1.7 ton not that bad yet lah. And that's the beauty of heaving more torque and hp than you strictly need for local roads - you can handle weight gain easily. Power to spare is useful.
I lug 2 x 5 tiers plastic storage containers from citylife warehouse ytd. Heng got suv, else jialat. Saw a Altis owner trying very hard to squeeze a smaller 4 tier into his boot.. I still got loads of space left and went for the week's grocery shopping. Hehe.
Saw a few levorg around recently. Really nice car with the scoop. If not for the tighter driver seat and rear seats, I might have gotten it. They should make a 2L turbo for it. I'm always carrying a lot of stuff and weight. Quite a pity.
The clasani under coat got so many layers!? I didn't know. I paid $290 for mine. How much u paid for yours? I only saw 2 piece of stickers on boot window with clasani on it. Not sure I got the sound damping for under carriage.
I lug 2 x 5 tiers plastic storage containers from citylife warehouse ytd. Heng got suv, else jialat. Saw a Altis owner trying very hard to squeeze a smaller 4 tier into his boot.. I still got loads of space left and went for the week's grocery shopping. Hehe.
Saw a few levorg around recently. Really nice car with the scoop. If not for the tighter driver seat and rear seats, I might have gotten it. They should make a 2L turbo for it. I'm always carrying a lot of stuff and weight. Quite a pity.
Clasani anti-rust and sound dampening layers are $290 each. Undercarriage protector (more physical protection than anything else) is $250. As you can tell, I was quite kiasu about this, but figured any undercarriage layer will help to dampen sound to some degree, so the more the merrier, lol. Plus being able to claim Duo points helped.
I wouldn't have done much better than the Altis though my boot quite deep. You really got a lot of storage space!
Levorg does come in 2.0DIT - just not in Singapore. Very sleek car. I'd have considered too if it had more rear legroom and HK sound system. 1.6T enough for Singapore lah. Oh sorry, I forgot, talking to FXT driver here. Just disturbing you lah, bro.
Power la bro. U spent so much for undercarriage coatings! Do u know if sound damping coating can still be done if already done anti rust?Clasani anti-rust and sound dampening layers are $290 each. Undercarriage protector (more physical protection than anything else) is $250. As you can tell, I was quite kiasu about this, but figured any undercarriage layer will help to dampen sound to some degree, so the more the merrier, lol. Plus being able to claim Duo points helped.
I wouldn't have done much better than the Altis though my boot quite deep. You really got a lot of storage space!
Levorg does come in 2.0DIT - just not in Singapore. Very sleek car. I'd have considered too if it had more rear legroom and HK sound system. 1.6T enough for Singapore lah. Oh sorry, I forgot, talking to FXT driver here. Just disturbing you lah, bro.
Got a few questions to ask. I already find my FL XT quite quiet on the move but some roads can be quite noisy still. Would just the Clasani Sound Dampening help in reducing road noise or do I still need SP for the 4 doors?
How much is the Clasani Sound Dampening service if we can offset by DUO points? Thanks.
Power la bro. U spent so much for undercarriage coatings! Do u know if sound damping coating can still be done if already done anti rust?
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Which layer have you already done?
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MI does it in this order:
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So if you've already done anti-rust, I would assume you can't do it in MI's order anymore. Though there's nothing to say that MI's way is the only correct order. It does make sense though. CS 705 is described by local vendor Tonita (no idea if MI sources from them; just linked to them for info) as a sealant, so it makes sense to do CS 8833 first, then seal it in with CS 705.
Would just the Clasani Sound Dampening help in reducing road noise or do I still need SP for the 4 doors?
How much is the Clasani Sound Dampening service if we can offset by DUO points? Thanks.
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Door soundproofing won't help much with road noise, so it sounds like the undercarriage Clasani sound dampening (CS 8833; see above) is what you're after... unless you want to be siao kiasu like me and do the full undercarriage works.
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Duo points redemption is complicated (you have to consider minimum spending, etc), so you'll have to either work it out yourself by referring to the Duo website, or ask MI to help you.
Edited by Muser, 25 July 2016 - 12:46 PM.
so tempting la u all.. keep tempting me..
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Anyone can advise what is the Fog Light bulb type for forester xt facelift version. My car is 2 weeks old. On the manual it says "Models with steering response fog light systems" is H16 and without the steering response system is H11. I know our low beam light is steering response system, but is the fog light steering response as well?
Anyone can advise what is the Fog Light bulb type for forester xt facelift version. My car is 2 weeks old. On the manual it says "Models with steering response fog light systems" is H16 and without the steering response system is H11. I know our low beam light is steering response system, but is the fog light steering response as well?
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Reason for asking is there is a group buy for 3D mats at $290, wonder whether to get.
Edited by Rachdanom, 25 July 2016 - 03:06 PM.
3A car mats can get easily for about 50 to 70 bucks excluding the boot one. The seller will cut it to fit our rides before delivery to you. Can find sellers on Carousell easily.May I know if the existing 3A and Carpet mats that come with the car wear out, where do we get ones that fit the shape of the FXT? Are they readily available and what are their costs?
Reason for asking is there is a group buy for 3D mats at $290, wonder whether to get.
I saw the 3d mats on the Facebook. Not sure what it is though. Anyone can advise?
Just realised this thread has reached 300 pages! Woo hoo!
Edited by Swaku, 25 July 2016 - 03:17 PM.
Oh then maybe will just stick to the cut 3A ones. You google 3D u can find info on sgcarmart. Think they use 3D printing technology or something to make the mat perfectly suit your car, and it looks like it covers more and higher so its almost like a tray.3A car mats can get easily for about 50 to 70 bucks excluding the boot one. The seller will cut it to fit our rides before delivery to you. Can find sellers on Carousell easily.
I saw the 3d mats on the Facebook. Not sure what it is though. Anyone can advise?
Just realised this thread has reached 300 pages! Woo hoo!
Edited by Rachdanom, 25 July 2016 - 03:21 PM.
Holy shit. I just check the sticker on the boot again and it says anti rust... Zzzzz. I got the wrong one. Wanted sound dampening actually. Oh well, it's good enough for me already. LolEr, dun remind me, can
Which layer have you already done?
MI does it in this order:
1) Sound dampening (confirmed to be Clasani CS 8833), which is a smooth coating
2) Anti-rust (confirmed to be Clasani CS 705), which is a rough coating
3) Undercarriage protector (probably Clasani CS 706 though I still don't know; I intend to find out at some point)
So if you've already done anti-rust, I would assume you can't do it in MI's order anymore. Though there's nothing to say that MI's way is the only correct order. It does make sense though. CS 705 is described by local vendor Tonita (no idea if MI sources from them; just linked to them for info) as a sealant, so it makes sense to do CS 8833 first, then seal it in with CS 705.
Door soundproofing won't help much with road noise, so it sounds like the undercarriage Clasani sound dampening (CS 8833; see above) is what you're after... unless you want to be siao kiasu like me and do the full undercarriage works.
Duo points redemption is complicated (you have to consider minimum spending, etc), so you'll have to either work it out yourself by referring to the Duo website, or ask MI to help you.
Dun worry bro. For some very rough patches of road, even a BMW is noisy as hell, not to say out fxt.After hearing you guys got good results with the Clasani sound dampening, my backside getting itchy too.
Got a few questions to ask. I already find my FL XT quite quiet on the move but some roads can be quite noisy still. Would just the Clasani Sound Dampening help in reducing road noise or do I still need SP for the 4 doors?
How much is the Clasani Sound Dampening service if we can offset by DUO points? Thanks.
Holy shit. I just check the sticker on the boot again and it says anti rust... Zzzzz. I got the wrong one. Wanted sound dampening actually. Oh well, it's good enough for me already. Lol
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Don't worry, bro, the anti-rust layer should also dampen sound, as you've already experienced, so it's all good.
Ya la. But I actually wanted more. Haa greed is evil. Must learn to be contented. Occasionally need to take friends' cars.Don't worry, bro, the anti-rust layer should also dampen sound, as you've already experienced, so it's all good.
http://www.caradvice...20i-comparison/
The ang mohs dun care much about the badge. But this is Singapore. Badge rules.Interesting comparison test from one of my favorite Australian review websites - Forester XT vs BMW X1.
http://www.caradvice...20i-comparison/
It's interesting that the pricing difference is only about 7% in Australia but is a massive 45% in Singapore (using the sDrive20i).The ang mohs dun care much about the badge. But this is Singapore. Badge rules.
Not sure if it's the same Forester version in Singapore. If it is, its a huge badge arbitrage.
Whichever way you cut it, I think you folks made an excellent choice with the Forester.
$70 for side mirror auto foldingBro can share is there any switch for the autofolding side mirror?
What is the damage?
Driving the xt for a month still cant get used to manually fold/unfold the side mirror
It's interesting that the pricing difference is only about 7% in Australia but is a massive 45% in Singapore (using the sDrive20i).
Not sure if it's the same Forester version in Singapore. If it is, its a huge badge arbitrage.
Whichever way you cut it, I think you folks made an excellent choice with the Forester.
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The Aussie FXT should have slightly more safety features, like the eyesight.
Good to have features for them, like heat seat.
Engine spec should be should as here.
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Not only in Aussie, in most others country. The FXT are selling at a premium compared to others Japanese counterpart SUV.
Anyone know how to activate and set the pin code access?
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Thanks Bro!Watch this Youtube video: P.I.N. Access Feature on 2015 (and later) Subaru Outback and Legacy
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I collected my 2016 XT in April, want to check with you if you encounter this problem with the aircon? How come the outside air (and exhaust fumes) �keeps coming into the car? I turn on the internal air circulation button, but it auto switches off after a while and outside air starts coming in again.�
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I collected my 2016 XT in April, want to check with you if you encounter this problem with the aircon? How come the outside air (and exhaust fumes) �keeps coming into the car? I turn on the internal air circulation button, but it auto switches off after a while and outside air starts coming in again.�
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This had been discuss so many times here.
It is the conti setup of the aircon, similar to many conti car.
The only way to prevent this is to set your aircon to 22deg and below or don't use full auto mode.
Before you press the ON button, press the Re-circulation button. Then manual rotate the aircon fan speed to the speed you want. The aircon will still auto regulate the set temp, but will not auto adjust the fan speed.
Hi guys,
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I collected my 2016 XT in April, want to check with you if you encounter this problem with the aircon? How come the outside air (and exhaust fumes) �keeps coming into the car? I turn on the internal air circulation button, but it auto switches off after a while and outside air starts coming in again.�
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Yup. Only in spore we can get forester at a 'cheap' deal. But due to the low omv declared by MI, it has a lower selling price and will have a poorer resale value. Many were initially skeptical of the Subaru brand too. A forester here cost about the same as the new Honda Civic 1.5T which has a higher omv. Most ppl will wack the civic :)The Aussie FXT should have slightly more safety features, like the eyesight.
Good to have features for them, like heat seat.
Engine spec should be should as here.
Not only in Aussie, in most others country. The FXT are selling at a premium compared to others Japanese counterpart SUV.
Hehe. How apt!Yup. Only in spore we can get forester at a 'cheap' deal. But due to the low omv declared by MI, it has a lower selling price and will have a poorer resale value. Many were initially skeptical of the Subaru brand too. A forester here cost about the same as the new Honda Civic 1.5T which has a higher omv. Most ppl will wack the civic :)
Tested the 1.5t on the Honda jade... Not very inspiring.. The 1.5na civic? Let's just say CVT is not Honda's strong suit. :)
I think the subaru CVT wins Honda one miles ahead.Hehe. How apt!
Tested the 1.5t on the Honda jade... Not very inspiring.. The 1.5na civic? Let's just say CVT is not Honda's strong suit. :)
Especially in S and S# mode, it change gear like a normal auto gear.
My SE asked mi to top up $3k for 6 non guaranteed bidsYes, spoke to my SE. He said MI max bid for my NA is $53,600.
Mine is 4th bid last round.
1st bid $47,000
2nd bid $50,600
3rd bid $53,600
4th bid $53,600
Last bid also at $53K. 4th bid didn't get COE
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