Good match overall. We did the job at perhaps 7.5 pt to win. Defense was overall OK although there were some hairy moments. But it's fair to say or defense was one notch better than city defense. Had our attack being more clinical we could have scored maybe 6...
But our midfield was often pressured and we didn't control it. My worry of their midfield pressing our wingback back was correct but we found 2 beauty long shots. They must have really wanted to prove my previous remarks that no one can shoot from far, wrong. .. glad they did too. ..
What a cracking game.
A superb result against the reigning Champions.
All the more after the energy sapping game in Istanbul.
2 goals of "beauty".
Bodes well for the remaining games whereby without the mid week European games, we can rest and recuperate better.
The score line could have been a bit higher for both sides.
Always have some grudging respect for Wenger & Pellegrini, miles better than the "win at all costs" Moaner....
YNWA......
Pellegrini is an old bird and properly brought up from old school hence he knows football the way it used to be. For some reason he reminds me of bobby robson. As for wenger, I always feel like laughing whenever he said he didn't see certain things that happen on the pitch. And I always remembered that spat he had with pardew.
Can only say "Jit Tong Cheng!"
Our Goal difference is poorest Within the top 6 teams.
Next up is at home this Wednesday vs Burnley.
YNWA.....!
MOTM is couti. Superb playmaking nbof cos that goal. Skrtel at the back is rock solid considering that lovren is beside hiM. Allen n henderson are superb too. Only disappointment to me are lovren, markovic n sterling.
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I think Sterling is okay. But Lovren quite jia lat..
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I think Sterling is okay. But Lovren quite jia lat..
I would prefer Toure to Lovren.
Everton really disappointing...
our good run achieved largely without SG in the team, sad for him but should be clear as day to him his what his role is now. Good that he decided to walk away at the end of the season.�
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Did we guys enjoy a sweet dream after our win against Man C? :))
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Shiok leh :))
Did we guys enjoy a sweet dream after our win against Man C? :))
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Shiok leh :))
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sibei shiok!�
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in a way even better than last year's win agains ManC.. cos this year really started off badly, i wouldnt expect pool to win last night..
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if BR can continue the streak all the way to the last game and get a 3rd place finish, he might even win the manager of the year again!
i think PC has been practicing his outside the box shots...
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can see he is getting more confidence and trying more such shots each game!�
Edited by Wyfitms, 02 March 2015 - 09:47 AM.
our good run achieved largely without SG in the team, sad for him but should be clear as day to him his what his role is now. Good that he decided to walk away at the end of the season.�
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on a separate note, i noticed Botak has cut down on his body hugging this season�
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Yes, in the modern game, mobility is key. SG doesn't have that anymore so loses out significantly. It doesn't help that being the captain and talisman for a big club like pool (recently also England) is so high profile, that opponents all will focus on nullifying him and furthermore focus on targeting him. So everyone know where the team's weakness is.
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Skrtel has indeed changed much this season. Less wrestling when we defend dead ball. But he's also less threatening when we have dead balls ourselves...
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One month ago, we had the most difficult run-in and still had to face the top 7 teams in the league. Now we have beaten 4 of them, and are only left with Chelski, gunners, ManU. The anfield match against ManU is must-win, and we should win. The other 2 are more tricky. But arsenal hasn't been consistently fantastic, so we should have a decent chance. Then for stamford bridge, it's about time we got some luck and decisions against them. Hopefully they are running tired after a bright start this season, and will drop more points, esp the 3 against us.�
Edited by Atrecord, 02 March 2015 - 10:26 AM.
I didn't watch the match but I watched highlights of the goals. The 2 liverpool goals were very, very impressive.
I think if he play well liverpool will win all the game he play well in.
Wow. What will happen if Barca comes knocking on Coutinho's door...
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He would reject them as Liverpool are the better team.�
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If I am not wrong Barcelona has never beaten
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many many times.
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Wow. What will happen if Barca comes knocking on Coutinho's door...
To be honest I think barca have better player then him.
To be honest I think barca have better player then him.
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You mean Luis Suarez?
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Yes but at 22 years old?To be honest I think barca have better player then him.
Anyway it was thanks to our former manager RB who rated him highly in Inter. Maybe we should consult him more. http://m.bbc.com/spo...otball/21236041
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I didn't watch the match but I watched highlights of the goals. The 2 liverpool goals were very, very impressive.
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If we can perfect long shots from outside the box, then we don't need strikers liao..
All can be scored by our midfielders :))
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I think our strikers goal return rate aren't that good.... So, will have to depend on midfielders liao :))
Any goal, whether tai-ko or superbly taken, are all welcome by us :))
Totally agree.� �If strikers canot score regularly..perhaps time for the midfielder to help put in a few goals.
Joe Allen had a terrific game for the Reds last night. watch this highlight to see his contributions.
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and for those who missed the two stupendous goals.� �
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But can FSG guarantee that all these young players stay and grow together to become a very good team? We can see sterling's head already swell quite big. So all the more we need to keep players who want to be at Liverpool and assure Lucas who used to be want to stay at Liverpool as long as possible to thinking about his future away.
Coutinho is who buy one?
Coutinho is who buy one?
Best man for the job.
Coutinho is who buy one?
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Rafa Benitez bought Coutinho
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Earlier this evening, Benitez - who is still trying to win over sceptical Chelsea fans - posted the following statement:
"I would like to wish all the best to Momo Sissoko, Dani Pacheco, Emiliano Insua and Philippe Coutinho, who have just changed clubs in the january transfer window and face new challenges in their careers as footballers.
"I wish you all the best of luck in their new professional environments: Momo at Fiorentina, Dani in Huesca, Emiliano at Atletico Madrid and Philippe at Liverpool".
Benitez signed all four of the aforementioned players for previous clubs: Sissoko, Pacheco and Insua for Liverpool, and Philippe Coutinho for Inter Milan (he arrived at the club when Benitez was in charge)
Benitez wasted a lot of money on dross over the years, but he also signed some fantastic players along the way, and although he left in 2010, his transfer legacy is still benefiting the club today.
Suso, Raheem Sterling and Jonjo Shelvey are great example of this: All three were signed by Benitez, and over the last year, the trio have forced their way into the first team, and could become regulars for years to come.
The same goes for Coutinho: Benitez oversaw the arrival of the Brazilian during his ill-fated spell at Inter Milan, and gave him his debut. Now, he's at Liverpool, and hopefully set to make a big impact at the club. After signing for Milan, Coutinho thanked the Spaniard for giving him a chance:
"I am grateful to Benitez. He was the first to give me a chance, he gave me confidence and space."
Liverpool Assistant manager Colin Pascoe confirmed this afternoon that Coutinho will not feature against Manchester City on Sunday. It's a shame as most fans are excited to see the Brazilian play, but there's no sense in rushing him into the team, especially with his (recent) injury history.
If Coutinho, Sterling, Suso and Shelvey become important players for Liverpool, then Reds fans will thanking Benitez for years to come (yes, even me!*)�
for Inter Milan but was sacked
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so Coutinho moved to Liverpool.
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Rafa also sold Sturridge to Pool
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as he knew how good he is.
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Rafa Benitez bought Coutinho
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for Inter Milan but was sacked
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so Coutinho moved to Liverpool.
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Rafa also sold Sturridge to Pool
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as he knew how good he is.
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so fat waiter was preparing to come back?
so fat waiter was preparing to come back?
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Haha how can you call him fat waiter?
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He is one of our best managers.�
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I think wants to come back one day
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and he still has his home in Liverpool.
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I didn't watch the match but I watched highlights of the goals. The 2 liverpool goals were very, very impressive.
hoi !! what do you mean very very impressive ?...they were truly real gems how �
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cheers !!
Joe Allen had a terrific game for the Reds last night. watch this highlight to see his contributions.
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One of the stand out performance in last night's match.�
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I still favour him better than Lucas. I personally rate his passing visible better than Lucas. However, when it comes to discipline in doing the DM job, Lucas is a class on his own. If Allen is to be more discipline in doing his DM role, then I don't see why he can't replace Lucas as the first choice DM.�
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Last night is a case in point where he harass and pass. Seldom venture out wide or move too forward. He looks like the old Allen when he was at Swansea.�
Did we guys enjoy a sweet dream after our win against Man C? :))
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Yes. It's what we needed to gain towards CL qualification - not forgetting that it's sweet revenge for our "slip-up" at end of last season.
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On the downside, we had done Chelski a favour but then again - our league standing take precedence above everything else.
I always take the 5-0 away win over Spurs last season as a yardstick how good liverpool can be. I mentioned b4 here, Lucas as defensive midfielder, Allen doing the harassing with Henderson and Henderson playing a bit more forward. I believe the best man for the job has plan to put Can at Lucas's position that's why Lucas is deemed to be dispensable. But my own preference is always to keep all the players, ncluding geerard so we can use them when needed. But FSG's policy is to cut wages, sign young players at not too high wages with reference to FFP and quota for English players. Hence the interest in Ings who is English and young and most propably be at not too high salary.
But can FSG guarantee that all these young players stay and grow together to become a very good team? We can see sterling's head already swell quite big. So all the more we need to keep players who want to be at Liverpool and assure Lucas who used to be want to stay at Liverpool as long as possible to thinking about his future away.
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It's not a fair comparison to use last season as a yardstick. Last season was virtually a one-man team. Not do discredit Suarez for his goal scoring feats, but this season �we are defending better (since X'mas) than "previously outscoring" the opposition.
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But I do agree with you though that talent retention is a big challenge for the club.
Nice win and the goals for both are really beauty with exceptional long strike:) never seem they are capable of long strikes and ManC is a strong team. I am still savouring the wins LOL. �Cheers
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Best man for the job.
i dun think best man for job know who is coutihno.... he only know bpl players he manage before.
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frankly, i believe transfer committee is the decision maker for this case... DS maybe he knows..
Liverpool midfielder Philippe Coutinho: �Rafa Ben�tez helped me quite a lot��
Liverpool midfielder Philippe Coutinho has noted how Rafa Ben�tez helped him understand the European game.
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The Brazilian worked under the current Napoli head coach at�Internazionale�in 2010.
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Ben�tez immediately integrated Coutinho, who had arrived from�Vasco da Gama�for��4 million, into the first-team.
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Coutinho believes the Spaniard taught him to play quicker and become more tactically aware.
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�I feel I have improved already in terms of understanding the European game,� he told�The�Guardian. �Rafa Ben�tez helped me quite a lot with that, when I was at Inter.�
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�In Brazil, if you play where I do, you are not expected to track back or defend in any way. You are an attacker and that's it. Only technically are you part of a team.�
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�When I worked with Rafa he changed that mentality straight away. I became more of a team player rather than an individual, saw the game in a different way and was encouraged to move the ball a bit quicker and look for different passes.�
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�I have to say I think I prefer the European style now. You move faster, think more quickly and are involved in the game more.
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Only according to you.
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I like it how you always just make things up.
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No lah I didn't make things up, Rafa didn't buy coutinho.
i dun think best man for job know who is coutihno.... he only know bpl players he manage before.
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frankly, i believe transfer committee is the decision maker for this case... DS maybe he knows..
Yah more like the transfer committee. Unofficially of course.
No lah I didn't make things up, Rafa didn't buy coutinho.
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Then please tell us who did?
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It's not a fair comparison to use last season as a yardstick. Last season was virtually a one-man team. Not do discredit Suarez for his goal scoring feats, but this season �we are defending better (since X'mas) than "previously outscoring" the opposition.
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But I do agree with you though that talent retention is a big challenge for the club.
last season is not the yardstick, the match in which liverpool beat Spurs 5-0 is e yardstick. I only refer to that match alone only. Gerrard didn't play in that match and the midfield trio are Lucas, Allen and Henderson. With Gerrard around, Liverpool can't play that high intensity pressing and harassing way perfectly.
Maybe that's not Rafa and thats not Coutinho?
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Yes yes that is Rafa with coutinho with inter jersey. But Rafa really did not buy coutinho.
Yes yes that is Rafa with coutinho with inter jersey. But Rafa really did not buy coutinho.
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If Rafa didn't buy him then who did?
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If Rafa didn't buy him then who did?
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Yesterday he just won a trophy.
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One of the stand out performance in last night's match.�
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I still favour him better than Lucas. I personally rate his passing visible better than Lucas. However, when it comes to discipline in doing the DM job, Lucas is a class on his own. If Allen is to be more discipline in doing his DM role, then I don't see why he can't replace Lucas as the first choice DM.�
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Last night is a case in point where he harass and pass. Seldom venture out wide or move too forward. He looks like the old Allen when he was at Swansea.�
What sort of passing U referring to???
Lucas actually have better pass although he had constantly been restrain from making those pass. U should see his passes when he was in brazil league
Yesterday he just won a trophy.
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Yes you are right. It was John Terry.
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Liverpool wants Rafa at Anfield.�
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Last month there were reports in Portugal that Liverpool were set for a battle with Everton to sign Rafa.
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Liverpool�s pursuit for the player was headline news in the country and the Portuguese media�were quite excited that two clubs from the city were tracking the 21 year old.
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Rafa has a �25m buyout clause implemented into his contract but it is unlikely that Liverpool would have to pay such a transfer fee, with claims during the transfer window that Everton were only prepared to pay �10m for the youngster.
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Rafa Silva has been unusually been dubbed the new Eden Hazard in Portugal rather than being compared to his fellow compatriots such as Cristiano Ronaldo.
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last season is not the yardstick, the match in which liverpool beat Spurs 5-0 is e yardstick. I only refer to that match alone only. Gerrard didn't play in that match and the midfield trio are Lucas, Allen and Henderson. With Gerrard around, Liverpool can't play that high intensity pressing and harassing way perfectly.
Yes yes that is Rafa with coutinho with inter jersey. But Rafa really did not buy coutinho.
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SG can play high intensity cos Luis Suarez was everywhere... that type of player will make a poor pass look world class ;p
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i believe inter transfer committee sign the player. all except in england, directors of football sign players. coaches coach.
Just read that Ibe out for 4 weeks after damaging ligaments :(
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Just when we can use him, and just when he is showing his potential :((
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Anyway, hope he gets well soon, and we can still see his performance in the last leg of the league :)
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SG can play high intensity cos Luis Suarez was everywhere... that type of player will make a poor pass look world class ;p
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i believe inter transfer committee sign the player. all except in england, directors of football sign players. coaches coach.
Haha, luis always like to play one two with opposing defenders and get the ball back from them and a few times even "pass" the ball to their hand lol
Well, Coutinho was already signed by inter before rafa become the coach of inter.
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Just when we can use him, and just when he is showing his potential :((
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Anyway, hope he gets well soon, and we can still see his performance in the last leg of the league :)
Hopefully it is really only 4 weeks coz the matches are coming thick and fast and we need all the players available.
Coutinho was signed by the special one at inter in 2008 at a tender age of 16... he was only unveiled by Rafa in 2010....
http://www.espnfcasi...turn-to-anfield
Hate to agree but reality really bites, especially with the recent failings of English clubs at continental competitions..
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So true. When I saw the result on my phone...I was already very impressed. But my jaw dropped when I watched the goals highlights.hoi !! what do you mean very very impressive ?...they were truly real gems how �
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Actually to cut ur message short. BR is not flexible enough in his tactics. A good manager will perform well with the right player. A great manager will do excellent even without the right player.
The reason is simple. They know how to play to squad strength.
Br had show that he cannot do well without the player he want.
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I have to admit Sir Alex was really good at maximising whatever resources he had.�
The best man for the job is a good coach. He likes to coach and improve young players, that's for sure. But he has to be ruthless if he wants to implement his death by football or whatever he calls it. His naivety has let him down quite a number of times and at times I felt he is better off as a coach rather than a manager. Although some supporters, especially when I read uk forums, mentioned he is learning and will improve in future when he gets more experience but I feel liverpool is not the club for young managers to learn on the job. Maybe if he has stay at Swansea for at least 5 years he could be a better manager to manage liverpool.
The pressing is not unlike what we have not seen before. The difference I guess is more of the pace. It is faster compare to what liverpool of old in the 80s(defending from the front?) and AC milan were doing in late 80/early 90s. Under Rafa Liverpool also like to do that. And some other teams do that too and I guess that is part of the requirement of modern football.
Another problem with the best man for the job is the defending. No doubt he has improve our defence with playing 3 centre backs but is this his prefer formation? I doubt so. If you look at his death by football ideology, it contradicts with last season's style and current style too. Once again he is handicap by the players he has at his disposal. Ballotelli confirm is not the type for his death by football. Skrtel tries by he is not the type of defender the best man for job wants. Goalkeeper Mignolet is not coz his passing and ball possession keeping is not good enough. So it's not easy.
As for the absence of Sturridge, once again if Liverpool want to be great again we cannot rely on one player. We have been doing that for too long and i am happy to say the best man for the job woke up and finally bother to change formation and put sterling in the front even though there are other strikers available. Coz only sterling can play the style he wants. So either he change the style to suit the players, or the other way. Could have done that earlier and maybe we wouldn't suffer as much. But the jury is still out on him because if king Kenny can be sacked because he couldn't deliever the top 4(even after he won a trophy), then I think the best man for the job too should be sacked if he cannot achieve top 4. I read that the new deal with new balance is such that Liverpool in CL and not in CL is half the of the sponsored money, each season. So that is crucial if Liverpool wants to catch with the rest of the rivals while the stadium is upgrading. The new sky tv deal, the CL money will all add on to it.
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Under any manager, when the team is really challenging for the title, there will always be one striker who is knocking in the goals.�
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From my memory, we have Fowler, Owen, Torres, Suarez. When these strikers were knocking in goals like no tomorrow, Liverpool is up there challenging for the title.�
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Fact is we need strikers who can convert chances into goals. Against Man City, Liverpool could have easily won by 3 goals margin if the chances that came along were converted. The only reason why Liverpool could win by 4-5 goals last season is because the chances were taken and converted to goals.�
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Like it or not, any team needs a goal scoring machine to be challenging for title.�
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Under any manager, when the team is really challenging for the title, there will always be one striker who is knocking in the goals.�
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From my memory, we have Fowler, Owen, Torres, Suarez. When these strikers were knocking in goals like no tomorrow, Liverpool is up there challenging for the title.�
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Fact is we need strikers who can convert chances into goals. Against Man City, Liverpool could have easily won by 3 goals margin if the chances that came along were converted. The only reason why Liverpool could win by 4-5 goals last season is because the chances were taken and converted to goals.�
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Don't think Man U have that problem under saf. Even when their start striker is injured he have ways around it.
Actually to cut ur message short. BR is not flexible enough in his tactics. A good manager will perform well with the right player. A great manager will do excellent even without the right player.
The reason is simple. They know how to play to squad strength.
Br had show that he cannot do well without the player he want.
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He cannot do well with the players that he wants too ( Borini, Loverns, even Allen)
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Which is why Rafa stands out... to win UCL with the players avail to him, minus Owen, play Dmiji Taorae as CB! World Class
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He cannot do well with the players that he wants too ( Borini, Loverns, even Allen)
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Which is why Rafa stands out... to win UCL with the players avail to him, minus Owen, play Dmiji Taorae as CB! World Class
It's a surprise that player like taorae have ucl in his cv.
If u notice. Last year I didn't praise br. In fact I think I did mention my dislike for how he manage the Squads and the team as a whole. It's was never about the number of games liverpool won. But a simple fact that u need a better manager then BR if U want to see title.
I had been saying since last season that I hope I am wrong about BR and till now I still hope I am wrong about BR. Let's hope that I am wrong about BR.
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But better managers currently in the BPL? Not many to be honest.
U can make an argument of Ponchettino not using adebayor or soldado to any effect this season as well.
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But better managers currently in the BPL? Not many to be honest.
U can make an argument of Ponchettino not using adebayor or soldado to any effect this season as well.
All I did is do a Excutive summary nia and u accuse me of blasting BR and wan RB to come back base on one poor season.
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Hendo pounded on rebound.
Swee!
30th min mark
N couti almost adds anotheR with a beautiful shot.
Wow...a miss when one on one for sturridge. Wth is wrong wif sturridge today.
Sturrodge has been really poor. His touches all gone haywire, keep giving the ball away.
Wow...a miss when one on one for sturridge. Wth is wrong wif sturridge today.
two chances one on one but nothing come out of them - Sturridge
Emre Can has a decent game thus far, as usual.
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SB sianz.... all top 7 teams won their respective matches...
SB sianz.... all top 7 teams won their respective matches...
It's ok, cos they will lose soon, and we will continue our wins to catch up and overtake them :))
As of now, let's bask in our wins :))
Time tobgive sterlijg n couti a rest. But y is toure being readied...
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They looked a bit tired but did the job that was needed to be done.�Anyway no games next week so got plenty of time to rest till 15 Mar.
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Man U damn lucky otherwise we would be same with them on points.
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They looked a bit tired but did the job that was needed to be done.�Anyway no games next week so got plenty of time to rest till 15 Mar.
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Man U damn lucky otherwise we would be same with them on points.
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This Sunday FA Cup�match, Liverpool vs Blackburn, 4pm ... meaning our Monday morning at 12am..
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Hopefully we have enough rest to chiong for this FA Cup :)
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This Sunday FA Cup�match, Liverpool vs Blackburn, 4pm ... meaning our Monday morning at 12am..
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Hopefully we have enough rest to chiong for this FA Cup :)
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it is funny that the fans need more rest to watch the game than the players who are actually running in the game!
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i think i will collapse and fall sick if i watch 3 games in 6 days!
Nice goal and assist by henderson.
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Match with the top 4 becomes critically important Liao.... In the quest for next season Champion league. Pity that MU gotten a late goal. They damn lucky.
........this season MU can only win by luck mah
Nice goal and assist by henderson.
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wow another true gem,.....oops !! I mean worldies
Henderson trying his best to show what SG can do, so can he.
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Gd, he can now go score 15 lge goals from CM every season!
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basically beat Arse and Manure and match their results for the other matches we can qual for UCL
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FA cup, SG will start i believe ;p
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