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Liverpool 2014/15 Part 2 : Qtr Century On.... part 22

  • 08 November 2014 - 10:08 PM
    Shorty
    Oh crap. Same old shit.
  • 08 November 2014 - 10:10 PM
    Lala81

    costa is lethal man.

    how come PC became right back. lol


  • 08 November 2014 - 10:11 PM
    Raymondism
    Liverpool vs Chelsea
    8.45pm 7 Nov 2014

    0-3 Kar_lover, othello
    0-2 Dream, shorty
    1-0 Ktglfc, Silver_blade
    2-0 Bact
    2-1 Bryankoh, Ray, Berncsp76

    1-3 Vegas
    1-2 Spinelli
  • 08 November 2014 - 10:11 PM
    Vegas
    BR out
  • 08 November 2014 - 10:12 PM
    Silver_blade
    Aiyoh...Joe Allen sub in?
  • 08 November 2014 - 10:12 PM
    Raymondism


    was it lovren that went out to challenge? I dunno if skrtel would have challenged.
    both out of position. hence the easy chance for cahill


    skrtel does best when he has someone to man mark.


    Gerrard just need to take two steps and Matic will be offside
  • 08 November 2014 - 10:12 PM
    Shorty

    costa is lethal man.
    how come PC became right back. lol

    cos stupid johnson go sightseeing.
  • 08 November 2014 - 10:14 PM
    Raymondism

    Aiyoh...Joe Allen sub in?


    Fresh legs as Coutinho is out with Striker coming in
  • 08 November 2014 - 10:16 PM
    Raymondism

    cos stupid johnson go sightseeing.


    Well he saved us twice... Coutinho misjudged and midfield did not track back
  • 08 November 2014 - 10:17 PM
    Silver_blade
    Maybe I am bias...I just don't think JA should be played when Liverpool is trying to catch up.


    Ok, ok....Think JA heard what I said...good run.

    Edited by Silver_blade, 08 November 2014 - 10:17 PM.

  • 08 November 2014 - 10:18 PM
    Lala81

    well not bad cross from allen lol.


  • 08 November 2014 - 10:20 PM
    Freestylers09
    Did Balo has any attempt in this game yet???
  • 08 November 2014 - 10:22 PM
    Lala81

    JA actually not bad since he came on.


    Did Balo has any attempt in this game yet???

    I won't fault him la. He lone striker. Not much service. Our midfield is not coping too well vs theirs.


  • 08 November 2014 - 10:23 PM
    Count-Bracula
    Yawn ..
  • 08 November 2014 - 10:25 PM
    Shorty
    Anyone noticed costa switched to right side? Guess he cant get pass skrtel.
  • 08 November 2014 - 10:26 PM
    Lala81

    ha he scored. job done for him..


  • 08 November 2014 - 10:26 PM
    Freestylers09

    JA actually not bad since he came on.


    I won't fault him la. He lone striker. Not much service. Our midfield is not coping too well vs theirs.

    Need DS back asap..

    RL and Borini got attempt liao lol

    Edited by Freestylers09, 08 November 2014 - 10:27 PM.

  • 08 November 2014 - 10:27 PM
    Shorty

    JA actually not bad since he came on.


    I won't fault him la. He lone striker. Not much service. Our midfield is not coping too well vs theirs.

    yeah...i wont blame him too. In fact for almost all the games so far we cant really fault him, barely any service fm the midfield n he clearly isnt the lone striker type.
  • 08 November 2014 - 10:29 PM
    Lala81

    i have to say that JH does the energetic part well. but he usually chooses the wrong options when attacking...


  • 08 November 2014 - 10:30 PM
    Shorty
    Wow...clear penalty not given. Knn
  • 08 November 2014 - 10:32 PM
    Lala81

    eh no la. cahill arms were glued to his body. I won't give that.


    Costa is the typical south american...


  • 08 November 2014 - 10:34 PM
    Silver_blade
    Looks like a penalty to me.
  • 08 November 2014 - 10:36 PM
    Shorty
    Haiz....,,,another wkend...another loss. Damn it. Season is getting worse.
  • 08 November 2014 - 10:38 PM
    Silver_blade
    Liverpool played much better today...but Chelsea is too strong to contain.
  • 08 November 2014 - 10:40 PM
    Raymondism

    Liverpool played much better today...but Chelsea is too strong to contain.


    Ya quite ok except the way we concede
  • 08 November 2014 - 10:42 PM
    Silver_blade
    Yes....and Liverpool is mid-table and looking comfortable there.
  • 08 November 2014 - 10:43 PM
    Lala81

    Yeah we just not good enough.

    JA transits the ball very quickly. Hence he managed to make a few chances.

    JH always making the wrong choices when attacking. I mean you can't be the more forward MC and do this lah. He's always picking out the less dangerous option. The way he plays sometimes is autopilot mode.�

    Uncle everything 5-6/10. But should really just bench him and see what happens lah. Can also...


    Edited by Lala81, 08 November 2014 - 10:45 PM.

  • 08 November 2014 - 10:45 PM
    Bacteria83

    the first chelsea handball should not be a penalty as there is no way the player could have move his hand away.

    But the second one is a stonewall penalty, i divided towards the ball, ball caught my hand is the same as i tackle a guy and i swiped the player down! come on ref!


  • 08 November 2014 - 10:48 PM
    Lala81

    the first chelsea handball should not be a penalty as there is no way the player could have move his hand away.

    But the second one is a stonewall penalty, i divided towards the ball, ball caught my hand is the same as i tackle a guy and i swiped the player down! come on ref!

    But his arms are not raised.

    He's actually very disciplined. Zero flailing arms even though he's headed towards the ground.

    These guys are well trained.



    Not Awardable

    A handball should not be awarded if a player is ruled to have handled the ball accidentally. This refers to a player either attempting to protect himself from injury, for example by placing the hands in front of the face and then being hit by the ball, or a player being hit on the arm by the ball without moving towards the ball and without being able to move out of the way. An example might be a snap shot hitting the arm of a defender at point-blank range. However, if a player�s arm is in an unnatural position, for example outstretched or above their head, then a foul should be awarded whether accidental or not.


    If the penalty is given, to me it's super soft.�
    Similarly if this happened to skrtel, I'm sure u guys will say its not a penalty.


  • 08 November 2014 - 10:51 PM
    Bacteria83

    or a player being hit on the arm by the ball without moving towards the ball and without being able to move out of the way

    I tot he tried his best to move towards the ball


  • 08 November 2014 - 10:52 PM
    Raymondism
    We cant be depending on penalties all the time...

    We need to be more organised in defense, move the ball faster up field and stay closer in attack...

    So many times, one player is out wide facing chelsea full back and his team mates are either lagging behind or too far away...
  • 08 November 2014 - 10:54 PM
    Owen_fan
    really don't known what to say
  • 08 November 2014 - 11:27 PM
    Silver_blade

    depend on who is the manager.

    I have a feeling, if manager still the same... next season will still be the same.

    i feel likewise. Our players may not be great but far from lousy. So where is the problem?
  • 08 November 2014 - 11:27 PM
    Vegas

    Yes....and Liverpool is mid-table and looking comfortable there.

    we are not too good to go down wor


  • 08 November 2014 - 11:31 PM
    Akula
    Sigh, Thot Lady Luck smiled on us, but alas, it's not to be.
    We are gradually spiraling down, Staring at an abyss......
    Will the return of Sturridge be enough?
  • 08 November 2014 - 11:34 PM
    Vegas

    depend on who is the manager.

    I have a feeling, if manager still the same... next season will still be the same.

    some one with balls need to come in and call the shots...�

    Our record this season is atrocious.. the only difference is we were without out strike force last season

    BR purchases and the way he is utilising them is worse than farking atrocious

    buy AL for 25M and not use him when chasing the game? buy Loverns for 20M to make the defence worse?

    20M Markovic was not even on bench right?

    if you cannot score the goals, make sure u dun concede them..�


  • 08 November 2014 - 11:40 PM
    Extinguisher
    Might as well don't buy the players. Keep the money and show more cash asset in the book better.
  • 08 November 2014 - 11:48 PM
    Joseph22

    getting DS back dun solve anything


    what a joke....

    under Rafa, we complain zonal marking.. see now u have BR => no need marking!

    [laugh][laugh] [laugh]��


    Might as well don't buy the players. Keep the money and show more cash asset in the book better.

    can earn interest somemore...


  • 09 November 2014 - 12:17 AM
    Bryankoh
    BR clearly not the man. He lost his head by the success of last season. Basically all players still around except LS. How can it get so worst? We can't defend? Nonsense lah! Remember we started last season with 1-0 in 1st three game! It is later part when LS come in and suddenly he realize that attacking football is better. Hence everyone started moving upfield and we started to let in goals! This season he think same way. But forget there is only 1 LS. It is team formation that is giving us problem. Player to player, we can't be sitting in mid table and Southampton is up there. All I can said is maybe Ronald Koeman is better.
  • 09 November 2014 - 12:22 AM
    Icedbs

    i feel likewise. Our players may not be great but far from lousy. So where is the problem?

    problem is :

    1) No pace upfront. Static and predictable

    2) No pace and creativity in the middle. Always pass backwards for answers.

    3) The back not enough leadership and understanding.

    4) The goalie always fumble at crosses.


  • 09 November 2014 - 05:44 AM
    Othello

    problem is :

    1) No pace upfront. Static and predictable

    2) No pace and creativity in the middle. Always pass backwards for answers.

    3) The back not enough leadership and understanding.

    4) The goalie always fumble at crosses.

    it should be the other way round.

    1. Mignolet is causing worry and panic to the defenders

    2. so defenders play deep + BR wants his full backs to chiong so our CBs exposed

    3. Thus creating a big lobang in the middle. With unker helming the middle - worse. His stature like posture has caused his comrades to sit and wait for the ball.

    4. Which causes Balo to be super isolated and disjointed.

    This is the first time I've came out and sat the fault lies SQUARELY on BR.�

    After 10 games, clearly something is NOT right ?�

    - Without SAS, still play same style and expect Balo/RL/Borini to carry on ?�

    - why still persist in playing balo ? or playing Balo alone ?�

    - Sterling needs a rest

    - uncle is no longer a premier EPL player. but still can play almost every game ?

    - Buy Lambert for f**k ?!?!?! he's destroying his confidence by putting him in every match at the 75th minute, more so when we are chasing the game. �Have seen Lambert play last season, while not fast he has above average ball control and his movement is good. But this season, has not seen anything like this.�

    In fact, BR is destroying the confidence of many of the team young players�

    SACK HIM !!!!!�


  • 09 November 2014 - 05:51 AM
    Othello

    Player to player, we can't be sitting in mid table and Southampton is up there.�

    sounds familiar ? Like a certain team last season ?�

    There is a probable reason #BRout� [sly] .............. mutiny, dressing room unrest ?�

    Anyway, cannot compare to Soton lah. Bet all the teams below (which is the REST except for chelsea) them will like to know the magic formula� [laugh]


    Edited by Othello, 09 November 2014 - 05:52 AM.

  • 09 November 2014 - 07:11 AM
    Ktglfc


    it should be the other way round.

    1. Mignolet is causing worry and panic to the defenders
    2. so defenders play deep + BR wants his full backs to chiong so our CBs exposed
    3. Thus creating a big lobang in the middle. With unker helming the middle - worse. His stature like posture has caused his comrades to sit and wait for the ball.
    4. Which causes Balo to be super isolated and disjointed.

    This is the first time I've came out and sat the fault lies SQUARELY on BR.�

    After 10 games, clearly something is NOT right ?�

    - Without SAS, still play same style and expect Balo/RL/Borini to carry on ?�

    - why still persist in playing balo ? or playing Balo alone ?�

    - Sterling needs a rest

    - uncle is no longer a premier EPL player. but still can play almost every game ?

    - Buy Lambert for f**k ?!?!?! he's destroying his confidence by putting him in every match at the 75th minute, more so when we are chasing the game. �Have seen Lambert play last season, while not fast he has above average ball control and his movement is good. But this season, has not seen anything like this.�

    In fact, BR is destroying the confidence of many of the team young players�


    SACK HIM !!!!!�


    For the first time, I have to agree with you... Which is quite sad :((
    And if anyone notice, that is why I have change the MCF pic from BR to another idol of mine...
    I am losing the faith in BR... But still, I am supporting Pool.. Just that it hurts a lot seeing the way that our beloved team is playing now...
    Hanging in mid table is one matter, but lacking in attack, slow in movement and conceding goals like no tomorrow is totally another matter...

    I really hope a miracle will come... Either BR suddenly wakes up, or players suddenly wake up, or SG suddenly quit or Defence suddenly get better or ......... BR suddenly quit and a new manager (maybe RB) comes in .....
    I believe in miracle, I have to
  • 09 November 2014 - 09:19 AM
    Deividz
    I'm disappointed.
    Makes my weekend blue.
    However I'm a Red through and through
    You will never walk alone.
  • 09 November 2014 - 11:26 AM
    Raymondism

    getting DS back dun solve anything

    what a joke....
    under Rafa, we complain zonal marking.. see now u have BR => no need marking!


    No shape...
    see how we concede second goal...
  • 09 November 2014 - 11:35 AM
    Raymondism
    After all these while, we just need to buy:
    1. a gd sweeper goalie,
    2. a monster DM and
    3. an attacker to replace Suarez (in terms of position ie someone who can play across 3 forward positions and CAM)

    LOL

    In the end we bought everything accept these 3
  • 09 November 2014 - 11:44 AM
    Raymondism

    I'm disappointed.
    Makes my weekend blue.
    However I'm a Red through and through
    You will never walk alone.


    Thats why win or lose, you will never be alone in this thread... lol
  • 09 November 2014 - 11:47 AM
    Raymondism

    For the first time, I have to agree with you... Which is quite sad :((
    And if anyone notice, that is why I have change the MCF pic from BR to another idol of mine...
    I am losing the faith in BR... But still, I am supporting Pool.. Just that it hurts a lot seeing the way that our beloved team is playing now...
    Hanging in mid table is one matter, but lacking in attack, slow in movement and conceding goals like no tomorrow is totally another matter...

    I really hope a miracle will come... Either BR suddenly wakes up, or players suddenly wake up, or SG suddenly quit or Defence suddenly get better or ......... BR suddenly quit and a new manager (maybe RB) comes in .....
    I believe in miracle, I have to


    I still think SG is the problem in midfield. He is gd at hollywood passes but Lucas does a better job in holding role. Lucas' resale value meant that he will be liquidated ahead of SG.

    As for defence.... they probably felt isolated...
  • 09 November 2014 - 11:47 AM
    Bismarck

    Yeah we just not good enough.

    JA transits the ball very quickly. Hence he managed to make a few chances.
    JH always making the wrong choices when attacking. I mean you can't be the more forward MC and do this lah. He's always picking out the less dangerous option. The way he plays sometimes is autopilot mode.�
    Uncle everything 5-6/10. But should really just bench him and see what happens lah. Can also...


    I noticed ever since JH promoted to vice captain his form has not been good.
  • 09 November 2014 - 12:00 PM
    Raymondism

    BR clearly not the man. He lost his head by the success of last season. Basically all players still around except LS. How can it get so worst? We can't defend? Nonsense lah! Remember we started last season with 1-0 in 1st three game! It is later part when LS come in and suddenly he realize that attacking football is better. Hence everyone started moving upfield and we started to let in goals! This season he think same way. But forget there is only 1 LS. It is team formation that is giving us problem. Player to player, we can't be sitting in mid table and Southampton is up there. All I can said is maybe Ronald Koeman is better.


    The goals started to flow at both ends when he tries to accommodate both LS and DS by fielding a 3-5-2. Then we started switching formations.... depending on opponent's formation.

    To be far to BR, he did what KD did in KD's first half season. Using the players according to their strengths and modifying the formation using a small pool of players...

    This year he suffers the same fate as KD's full season in charge. Spending money buying the players he wants but forcing a square peg into a round hole. Remember how Henderson was played on the right wing? Charlie Adam's slowness amplified when he had to cover in front of CB.
    Last night, we were all hoping for BnB attack just like we waited for Downing to cross for Carroll back then. He did exactly what KD did with the current west ham duo, sub Balo out and put Borini in.

    Perhaps we shld go 4-2-3-1 with 2 out of Can/Lucas/ Henderson/Allen holding... allowing Henderson/ Sterling/Coutinho/Lallana/SG to support attack.
  • 09 November 2014 - 12:03 PM
    Bismarck

    We cant be depending on penalties all the time...

    We need to be more organised in defense, move the ball faster up field and stay closer in attack...

    So many times, one player is out wide facing chelsea full back and his team mates are either lagging behind or too far away...


    BR seems to think as long as Liverpool's attack is good then the opposing team will just give in. And he forgot that when playing against the good teams you can't always have the opportunity to attack all the time. And usually good teams have strong defence and attack too. Unless, unless the players liverpool have are very good and can keep ball all the time which prevent opposing from getting the ball to attack, there is no way we can ignore defending and having a strong defence. Moreover when good teams attack they move the ball and attack very fast.

    Seriously it's good to have good attacking fullbacks but when your defensive midfielder is not someone who is tactically disciplined, and able to see danger even before it is about to happen, it will never work.

    Rafa is very right about gerrard. And BR thinks he can change and teach old dog something which he isn't and never will be. Naive to the max, as I always have said about BR.
  • 09 November 2014 - 12:15 PM
    Bismarck

    getting DS back dun solve anything

    what a joke....
    under Rafa, we complain zonal marking.. see now u have BR => no need marking!


    Wah Lau, want to praise ray ask me to wait, now ur post also like that. Can ask admin change?

    Exactly. Getting DS back just improve the attack. The defence will still be the same. Maybe we can win more matches but fundamental problem still there.
  • 09 November 2014 - 12:35 PM
    Yslim79

    And DS needs time to get back to match mode, by then may be too late. Think this season we can only pray top half finish, and tune up for next season. N BR must leave before Xmas ....
  • 09 November 2014 - 12:53 PM
    Bismarck

    And DS needs time to get back to match mode, by then may be too late. Think this season we can only pray top half finish, and tune up for next season. N BR must leave before Xmas ....


    Top half finish is not going to be good enough for Liverpool and BR. Both Dalglish and Rafa were sacked after they couldn't achieved top 4.

    There were some calls for patience over at some liverpool forums in UK but unfortunately we don't have time and patience. And liverpool already gave time to BR and money to sign the player she wanted.

    Wait for BR to come good and fulfil his potential as a manager? The more I look at it I think he is more suitable to be just a coach. We don't have time for up and coming managers. These managers should stick to mid level clubs, win something for them first. Then maybe top clubs will give them a look and chance.
  • 09 November 2014 - 02:20 PM
    Vegas

    BR seems to think as long as Liverpool's attack is good then the opposing team will just give in. And he forgot that when playing against the good teams you can't always have the opportunity to attack all the time. And usually good teams have strong defence and attack too. Unless, unless the players liverpool have are very good and can keep ball all the time which prevent opposing from getting the ball to attack, there is no way we can ignore defending and having a strong defence. Moreover when good teams attack they move the ball and attack very fast.

    Seriously it's good to have good attacking fullbacks but when your defensive midfielder is not someone who is tactically disciplined, and able to see danger even before it is about to happen, it will never work.

    Rafa is very right about gerrard. And BR thinks he can change and teach old dog something which he isn't and never will be. Naive to the max, as I always have said about BR.

    it works when u have a world class forward who tears everyone to pieces, almost nvr get injured (get banned nia)

    we had 2 mths or more to get in and organise the defence... and they are more shambolic than ever..

    right now, its a big IF, if BR still has the dressing room with him


  • 09 November 2014 - 02:20 PM
    Relacklabrudder3
    I dun understand... The team seem clueless and no shape or purpose ... Even teams that worse than us ... Say Everton ... There is certain shape and strategy to team...

    U watch Chelsea ... There is a shape to their play...
  • 09 November 2014 - 02:21 PM
    Vegas

    I dun understand... The team seem clueless and no shape or purpose ... Even teams that worse than us ... Say Everton ... There is certain shape and strategy to team...

    U watch Chelsea ... There is a shape to their play...

    got shape lah.. round is a shape. we were so blunt in attack, and defence => round seems the correct shape


  • 09 November 2014 - 04:24 PM
    Bismarck

    it works when u have a world class forward who tears everyone to pieces, almost nvr get injured (get banned nia)

    we had 2 mths or more to get in and organise the defence... and they are more shambolic than ever..

    right now, its a big IF, if BR still has the dressing room with him


    Obviously doubts already formed in players' mind about the capability of BR. If by December the form and performance do not improve, more supporters will be calling for BR's head. I bet BR can't wait to have Sturridge back to relieve some pressure. But it's going to be a wishful thinking because liverpool's performance haven't been great at all from the first match against Southampton until now except for the spurs match. So how does BR going to answer that? Gerard houllier was sacked because Liverpool's performance was really boring even though he led Liverpool to 4th and qualified for champions league. Don't tell me we should be more lenient to BR? Even a trophy like the league cup also cannot save BR.

    Performance failed
    Results failed
    Top 4 failed
    Champions league failed
    And lastly supporters turned against the manager

    SACKED.
  • 09 November 2014 - 05:28 PM
    Lala81

    After all these while, we just need to buy:
    1. a gd sweeper goalie,
    2. a monster DM and
    3. an attacker to replace Suarez (in terms of position ie someone who can play across 3 forward positions and CAM)

    LOL

    In the end we bought everything accept these 3

    We tried to get alexi sanchez. But failed.�

    Problem is Can is not going to be the DM.

    So we are still lacking all 3 players...


    Erm u guys do know his 2nd position last year virtually guarantees his position until at least until the summer? Chill lah guys, no way BR is getting sacked so fast.


  • 09 November 2014 - 06:16 PM
    Hosaybo
    True, esp if he just gotten a new contract not too long ago
  • 09 November 2014 - 06:31 PM
    Bismarck
    Nothing is guaranteed in football, especially when supporters start to turn against him. He let Liverpool down with his team selection against Real Madrid and in turn backfired against Chelsea when he did not achieve the right result. So what's the point? He absolutely doesn't care about the name and reputation of Liverpool in champions league and he should keep his mouth shut about looking forward to be involved in champions league.
  • 09 November 2014 - 07:24 PM
    Raymondism


    We tried to get alexi sanchez. But failed.�
    Problem is Can is not going to be the DM.
    So we are still lacking all 3 players...

    Erm u guys do know his 2nd position last year virtually guarantees his position until at least until the summer? Chill lah guys, no way BR is getting sacked so fast.


    If we are going to sell Lucas and SG is getting older each year... maybe we need someone like this guy:

    http://www.mirror.co...ds-join-4596837

    But likely to be plain rumours
  • 09 November 2014 - 07:33 PM
    Spring

    If we are going to sell Lucas and SG is getting older each year... maybe we need someone like this guy:

    http://www.mirror.co...ds-join-4596837

    But likely to be plain rumours

    Last summer, this guy was in the transfer news but in the end no one snapped him up surprisingly despite all the rumours.

    He's a powerhouse defensive midfielder and these days alot of teams are also after DMs eg Arsenal.

    EPL already have a few from the smaller teams which can be considered and no need for them to get used to the EPL

    unlike this William Carvalho. Like Wanyama(Saints), Song(West Ham) and Tiote(Newcastle).

    That said WC is young and already a Portugal National team regular but likely expensive which I doubt if FSG willing to

    spend unfortunately!


  • 09 November 2014 - 07:37 PM
    Spring

    Nothing is guaranteed in football, especially when supporters start to turn against him. He let Liverpool down with his team selection against Real Madrid and in turn backfired against Chelsea when he did not achieve the right result. So what's the point? He absolutely doesn't care about the name and reputation of Liverpool in champions league and he should keep his mouth shut about looking forward to be involved in champions league.

    Besides results, there are 2 areas which IMO, a manager should avoid alienating.

    1) Fans

    2) Dressing Room

    Liverpool fans are tolerant and supportive but I sense the tide will turn if results don't improve and the UCL weaken team fiasco only worsen matters.

    As for the dressing room, so far no news on any unhappiness which is good but I do wonder for how long??


  • 09 November 2014 - 08:30 PM
    Vegas

    Besides results, there are 2 areas which IMO, a manager should avoid alienating.

    1) Fans

    2) Dressing Room

    Liverpool fans are tolerant and supportive but I sense the tide will turn if results don't improve and the UCL weaken team fiasco only worsen matters.

    As for the dressing room, so far no news on any unhappiness which is good but I do wonder for how long??

    dropping / resting gerrard for RM... how will the captain be taking it?


  • 09 November 2014 - 08:38 PM
    Track

    Any bros can enlighten? When was the last time Pool lost 3 in a row? And what happened after that?


  • 09 November 2014 - 08:57 PM
    Joseph22

    Besides results, there are 2 areas which IMO, a manager should avoid alienating.

    1) Fans

    2) Dressing Room

    Liverpool fans are tolerant and supportive but I sense the tide will turn if results don't improve and the UCL weaken team fiasco only worsen matters.

    As for the dressing room, so far no news on any unhappiness which is good but I do wonder for how long??

    no news of any unhappiness doesn't mean everything is good.

    we know all who left is not happy with BR and his treatment. we are not sure how many are keeping quiet because the CPT told them to.


  • 09 November 2014 - 09:03 PM
    Lala81

    Last summer, this guy was in the transfer news but in the end no one snapped him up surprisingly despite all the rumours.

    He's a powerhouse defensive midfielder and these days alot of teams are also after DMs eg Arsenal.

    EPL already have a few from the smaller teams which can be considered and no need for them to get used to the EPL

    unlike this William Carvalho. Like Wanyama(Saints), Song(West Ham) and Tiote(Newcastle).

    That said WC is young and already a Portugal National team regular but likely expensive which I doubt if FSG willing to

    spend unfortunately!

    The number bandied around that time was mid to high 20mil pounds.


    no news of any unhappiness doesn't mean everything is good.

    we know all who left is not happy with BR and his treatment. we are not sure how many are keeping quiet because the CPT told them to.

    Cpt and Vice captain are goody 2 shoes lah. Hahaha i think the 1st to show displeasure will be obviously Balotelli or Sakho.�

    They more hotblooded.

    Most of the other 1st team regular or regular subs don't seem to be the kp to media type.


  • 09 November 2014 - 09:10 PM
    Yslim79

    N Liverpool needs exactly this sort of hot blood players to spur the team on, currently there's no ambition, no conviction at all, even the bottom three played with more hearts out than us ....

    Sianz I think after to9 we'll be in bottom half ... And probably stay there for some time ...
  • 09 November 2014 - 09:15 PM
    Vegas

    The number bandied around that time was mid to high 20mil pounds.


    Cpt and Vice captain are goody 2 shoes lah. Hahaha i think the 1st to show displeasure will be obviously Balotelli or Sakho.�

    They more hotblooded.

    Most of the other 1st team regular or regular subs don't seem to be the kp to media type.

    Call Rafa... maybe he have a different opinion?�

    just saying cos this was a strong rumour floating about


  • 09 November 2014 - 09:17 PM
    Lala81

    Curiosity sake, would you guys think we'll be better off with roberto martinez??


  • 09 November 2014 - 09:39 PM
    Joseph22

    The number bandied around that time was mid to high 20mil pounds.


    Cpt and Vice captain are goody 2 shoes lah. Hahaha i think the 1st to show displeasure will be obviously Balotelli or Sakho.�

    They more hotblooded.

    Most of the other 1st team regular or regular subs don't seem to be the kp to media type.

    captain isn't goody 2 shoes. he is getting first team soccer despite us knowing he should be.. he is happy.

    but the rest know.. go against the captain. out you go. its pretty evident. so anyone unhappy with BR won dare to voice out.


  • 09 November 2014 - 09:48 PM
    Spring

    Curiosity sake, would you guys think we'll be better off with roberto martinez??

    I think no diff cos they both like to play the passing Barca way n neither of them have a particularly
    successful track record but they both have the potential to become good Managers, see who get the first trophy and able to step up another gear but personally I feel about same.

    Coincidentally they both were Swansea Managers before!

    Edited by Spring, 09 November 2014 - 09:55 PM.

  • 09 November 2014 - 09:50 PM
    Lala81

    captain isn't goody 2 shoes. he is getting first team soccer despite us knowing he should be.. he is happy.

    but the rest know.. go against the captain. out you go. its pretty evident. so anyone unhappy with BR won dare to voice out.

    Captain toes the line. I mean "goody 2 shoes" in reference to that.

    He never made noise against RB publicly when RB is in charge. Though we all know they didn't see eye to eye.

    Frankly LFC is the last place to show player power.

    Even RH's short reign, none of the players spoke out.


    Whether internally they kp to the chairman or what not, no one knows lah. But they don't air dirty laundry in general.


  • 09 November 2014 - 09:50 PM
    Joseph22

    Captain toes the line. I mean "goody 2 shoes" in reference to that.

    He never made noise against RB publicly when RB is in charge. Though we all know they didn't see eye to eye.

    Frankly LFC is the last place to show player power.

    Even RH's short reign, none of the players spoke out.

    you don't have to speak up if your influence is big enough to force out the manager by talking to the upper management


  • 09 November 2014 - 09:51 PM
    Vegas

    Curiosity sake, would you guys think we'll be better off with roberto martinez??

    he cant defend as well ;p


  • 09 November 2014 - 09:57 PM
    Lala81

    you don't have to speak up if your influence is big enough to force out the manager by talking to the upper management

    As the star player who've stayed over the years, well of course his influence over the club is considerable.

    Carragher may have had a big say if he was still around. But still lesser than the blue eyed boy.

    Look at Rio, RVP, Vidic, Scholes, Giggs attitude/body language when Moyes is around.�


    If u so submissive, everything listen to manager, no one will make u captain lah. Lol all the vocal ones are the captains mah.


  • 09 November 2014 - 10:02 PM
    Spring

    you don't have to speak up if your influence is big enough to force out the manager by talking to the upper management

    Personally I don't think any player is that pissed off with BR yet but their patience could be tested if results don't turn around or they get blamed for the bad results eg defenders may feel it's not entirely their fault for the current predicament. So I can't see any forcing out for the foreseeable future and esp as the fans are also the best in the land so on that score BR should count his blessings and start producing!


    As the star player who've stayed over the years, well of course his influence over the club is considerable.
    Carragher may have had a big say if he was still around. But still lesser than the blue eyed boy.

    Look at Rio, RVP, Vidic, Scholes, Giggs attitude/body language when Moyes is around.�

    If u so submissive, everything listen to manager, no one will make u captain lah. Lol all the vocal ones are the captains mah.


    Edited by Spring, 09 November 2014 - 10:03 PM.

  • 09 November 2014 - 10:10 PM
    Bismarck


    Besides results, there are 2 areas which IMO, a manager should avoid alienating.

    1) Fans
    2) Dressing Room

    Liverpool fans are tolerant and supportive but I sense the tide will turn if results don't improve and the UCL weaken team fiasco only worsen matters.
    As for the dressing room, so far no news on any unhappiness which is good but I do wonder for how long??


    Last season I was keeping my fingers crossed and didn't want to say much in case I jinxed the team because after all, what we want is success and long awaited league title for our club.

    This season the signings were BR's. Now in his 3rd season, he should be consolidating. Qualifying for champions league every season should be the minimum target, at least until upgrading of the stadium is done.

    Yes we are tolerant and supportive. But we are also knowledgeable, especially those who have seen the last title success. I am from the era where league title is the target, not top 4 finish and qualifying for champions league. Now, if BR also cannot do that, and we accept that he has to be given more time, then how much time? We can see the team is consistently not playing well. Time is not on our side. We will fall further behind and become just a mid table team if we are not careful.
  • 09 November 2014 - 10:16 PM
    Bismarck

    I think no diff cos they both like to play the passing Barca way n neither of them have a particularly
    successful track record but they both have the potential to become good Managers, see who get the first trophy and able to step up another gear but personally I feel about same.

    Coincidentally they both were Swansea Managers before!


    At least Roberto has won a trophy before. He won the FA cup with Wigan.
  • 09 November 2014 - 10:26 PM
    Bismarck

    Curiosity sake, would you guys think we'll be better off with roberto martinez??


    I know who we are better off with. But I don't think the American owner dares to appoint him for fear he is too influential and have the supporters' backing. And this person is quite stubborn too. And I still believe he will be the one to bring the league title back to Liverpool.
  • 09 November 2014 - 10:45 PM
    Lala81

    I know who we are better off with. But I don't think the American owner dares to appoint him for fear he is too influential and have the supporters' backing. And this person is quite stubborn too. And I still believe he will be the one to bring the league title back to Liverpool.

    RB?

    Lol.�


  • 09 November 2014 - 10:54 PM
    Zakkwylde

    It has been a topsy turvy month for liverpool and me. Hope we both can pull through. Sorry wasn't able to surf the past few weeks. Been involved in a nasty accident up north. Have to shelf my plans of visiting Anfield early next year. My car repair comes up to 5 figures... [bigcry]


  • 09 November 2014 - 10:59 PM
    Othello

    It has been a topsy turvy month for liverpool and me. Hope we both can pull through. Sorry wasn't able to surf the past few weeks. Been involved in a nasty accident up north. Have to shelf my plans of visiting Anfield early next year. My car repair comes up to 5 figures... [bigcry]

    take care there. Watch less Pool matches this season then, vomit less blood.� [:p]


  • 09 November 2014 - 11:01 PM
    Zakkwylde

    take care there. Watch less Pool matches this season then, vomit less blood.� [:p]

    thx bro� i will try to vomit out other stuff besides blood� :D


  • 09 November 2014 - 11:01 PM
    Bacteria83

    It has been a topsy turvy month for liverpool and me. Hope we both can pull through. Sorry wasn't able to surf the past few weeks. Been involved in a nasty accident up north. Have to shelf my plans of visiting Anfield early next year. My car repair comes up to 5 figures... [bigcry]


    Money come and goes can still earn back. Sound like a bad accident, glade that nothing major happened to u. Take care
  • 09 November 2014 - 11:04 PM
    Zakkwylde

    Money come and goes can still earn back. Sound like a bad accident, glade that nothing major happened to u. Take care

    Thanks bro. Thankfully everyone in my family is safe. True, nothing is more precious then lives. Money can just earn back, very true...


  • 09 November 2014 - 11:12 PM
    Bismarck

    It has been a topsy turvy month for liverpool and me. Hope we both can pull through. Sorry wasn't able to surf the past few weeks. Been involved in a nasty accident up north. Have to shelf my plans of visiting Anfield early next year. My car repair comes up to 5 figures... [bigcry]


    That's bad. You take care of yourself first. Liverpool can come later. Hope you and your family are ok......












    With not going to anfield :p


    RB?
    Lol.�


    Haha. For you to guess for me to wish and for him and Liverpool to fulfill. All I can say is once upon a time he made me very very happy.
  • 09 November 2014 - 11:16 PM
    Zakkwylde

    That's bad. You take care of yourself first. Liverpool can come later. Hope you and your family are ok......












    With not going to anfield :p

    Haha. For you to guess for me to wish and for him and Liverpool to fulfill. All I can say is once upon a time he made me very very happy.

    Thx bro. �Should avoid another tragedy by not going to Anfield�.� [:p]


  • 09 November 2014 - 11:18 PM
    Raymondism

    It has been a topsy turvy month for liverpool and me. Hope we both can pull through. Sorry wasn't able to surf the past few weeks. Been involved in a nasty accident up north. Have to shelf my plans of visiting Anfield early next year. My car repair comes up to 5 figures... [bigcry]


    Bro... hope everything is ok....

    I may go anfield before end of this season though
  • 09 November 2014 - 11:24 PM
    Zakkwylde

    Bro... hope everything is ok....

    I may go anfield before end of this season though

    Everything is back on track bro. Thanks for the concern. Hopefully can be there once I save enough. Btw MAS is having promos for flights to lots of destination from Sgp. Shld check tat out. I think to London on Business is 3k+, economy 1.1k return trip direct flight


  • 09 November 2014 - 11:36 PM
    Bacteria83

    Everything is back on track bro. Thanks for the concern. Hopefully can be there once I save enough. Btw MAS is having promos for flights to lots of destination from Sgp. Shld check tat out. I think to London on Business is 3k+, economy 1.1k return trip direct flight

    I want to take MAS for holiday trips next yr. but gf and family members strongly against it. So i settle for another carrier instead :(

    Cathy pacific having may bank credit card promotion. Interested bro can check it out.

    Edited by Bacteria83, 09 November 2014 - 11:37 PM.

  • 09 November 2014 - 11:55 PM
    Joseph22

    Thx bro. �Should avoid another tragedy by not going to Anfield�.� [:p]

    bro. glade you are well.. take care.


  • 09 November 2014 - 11:58 PM
    Zakkwylde

    bro. glade you are well.. take care.

    Thanx bro. JUst red about the Porcshe accident in Malaysia that claim 2 Singaporeans. Glad I came out alive. It was like surreal�.


  • 10 November 2014 - 12:06 AM
    Joseph22

    Thanx bro. JUst red about the Porcshe accident in Malaysia that claim 2 Singaporeans. Glad I came out alive. It was like surreal�.

    that is sad....


  • 10 November 2014 - 12:36 AM
    Spring

    It has been a topsy turvy month for liverpool and me. Hope we both can pull through. Sorry wasn't able to surf the past few weeks. Been involved in a nasty accident up north. Have to shelf my plans of visiting Anfield early next year. My car repair comes up to 5 figures... [bigcry]


    Hope you and family are fine and really sorry to hear of your accident. Actually just last few days I thought of asking you about your trip cos that Pool v Man C match is now confirmed on cos both out of League Cup. Never mind another time then, take care!!
  • 10 November 2014 - 12:41 AM
    Spring

    Bro... hope everything is ok....

    I may go anfield before end of this season though


    Bro Raymond, see my previous posts on tickets which might be useful.
    Also, by year end LFC S'pore Supporters Club tickets might be out for 2nd half
    of the season so that could be a good bet. Either way, enjoy an experience
    to behold esp the anthem before the game, confirm hair stand!
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