.Think we hv discuss why he din stand out in the 2009 midfield
Defensive, he is not as hard as Mascherano but not many in this world can match up to the monster.
In terms of passing range and accuracy, he is not where near Alonso....
As a box to box, dun think anyone in the world in 2009 is better than SG... who is second striker cum second CM cum second winger cum second destroyer
And he cost as much as Igor Biscan
Alonso is the best passer of long range ball. Till date no one can compare to him.
Mascherano is the best last min tackle DM.. It's definitely hard to match up with them when both their skill look very prominent.
However position wise he is better then Alonso and mascherano. Mascherano made too many last min tackle that result in him having lots of red card
Plus don't forget, when everyone in Bpl don't know how to contend David silva, Lucas did it with ease and even stop their forward.
Now the problem with Lucas, all this excellent attribute are not easily seen.. In Short not eye catching. The reason why Jamie carriagher is always showing him saving liverpool at the last min is not because he is excellent but rather he is always been out play that he had to do last min tackle. To the top defender and manager.. He is lousy, to fans he is fantastic.
There is a reason why scholari rate Lucas High, but he is a practical man. He won't bring a player that is not playing regular football to World Cup.
Edited by Joseph22, 21 December 2014 - 02:09 PM.
Stay strong, guys...
I agree though. I think internally there's is something dysfunctional within the club.
I would argue even clubs like Southampton and wba are better run than us...
Think we hv discuss why he din stand out in the 2009 midfield
Defensive, he is not as hard as Mascherano but not many in this world can match up to the monster.
In terms of passing range and accuracy, he is not where near Alonso....
As a box to box, dun think anyone in the world in 2009 is better than SG... who is second striker cum second CM cum second winger cum second destroyer
And he cost as much as Igor Biscan
in that team, lucas stood out like a sore thumb. move forward Woy Era.. Lucas has been the best DM at the club since.. nvr appreciated him until Woy bought Poulsen in
in that team, lucas stood out like a sore thumb. move forward Woy Era.. Lucas has been the best DM at the club since.. nvr appreciated him until Woy bought Poulsen in
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We are not giving Lucas enough credit... till we miss him badly ...
And to hear that we are shipping him out when we need him so badly... this only spell further trouble in the dressing room...
http://liverpoolfc.c...-move-from-reds
Torres...could this be real?
stop gap ok.. to depend on Torres and Lambert means we are not planning for future.
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he was awesome.. even in the season he left midway.... half the goals from his first stint will do fine.
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oh performance based wages pls
Pool 3-1 Arse
Match starts now
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lets see how Markovic fare on his first start in a long time in BPL
80% possession by 1 trick best man for the job
Coutihno ans those who say he dun show up in big games
Coutinho!!!goal!!
guess what? Arse 1 shot, 1 goal
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Fark up defence
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knn..equalise after 2 mins
Skrtel seriously needs to learn how to defend those crosses.
not just him.. set pieces... how many we concede liao this season? we no longer have last season firepower to blast these mistakes away...�
Thanks bro
Hope its not too late
watch the arse goal again, wtf is Jones doing? Minolet cant command area, Jones cant stop any shots...�
what a f**king joke!
Hope we can sneak a win n move up the table during Christmas / New Year fixtures
bro, dun hope. i got no hope left
markovic whom in my opinion did well was replaced by frozen out Borini
I was jus abt to comment b4 the goal that pool is playing better than other games. But jus like man u game where they seem to attack better. N so it proved jus to b the same...play better but cant score.
i want to win ugly. not lose pretty!
to b fair all played quite well (except gerrard)...so rodgers jus had to choose the one who seem contribute the least.markovic whom in my opinion did well was replaced by frozen out Borini
wat to do...they were losing ugly. At least now got improve a bit. Hehehei want to win ugly. not lose pretty!
gerrard out, let henderson play in the mf role. henderson is totally wasted as a RWB
I think the tinkering of players seem to be creating a lack of understanding amongst them.�
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The chemistry seemed lacking.
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Sterling looked sharper when played on the wings.
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Sadly, we are leaking goals with almost every attack.
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I felt they played better last week agst Man Utd.
u need to create space. crowding that attacking third sacrificing defence bores of despair with no other idea
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Borini looks bright...
Borini is hungry...for goals.�
Borini is hungry...for goals.�
hungry for red card
every opponent keeper seems to be playing well agst us...
carzola pang bua liab...
goal!!!!
Liverpool manager going to tell u we play well enough to win blah blah
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3 mins for pool to win it and save his job by another week
Edited by Vegas, 22 December 2014 - 01:55 AM.
Gunners' defence also not as sharp as ours.
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Their players also want to sabo wenger.
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hope we snatch a win...
actually they did play well enough. A lot lot better than previous games. Not many games this season that im glued to the match. Only the usual defensive mistakes cost them the win.Liverpool manager going to tell u we play well enough to win blah blah
lucas kiam gan!
Drafted for BR already "The players played well and we believe we can turn it around the next time. It was a difficult game esp with 10 mn agst a disciplined Arsenal side. The last few minutes could have gone either way."
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The script is on the way to Anfield press room.
actually they did play well enough. A lot lot better than previous games. Not many games this season that im glued to the match. Only the usual defensive mistakes cost them the win.
i dun fark care whether they play well or not already... win, 3 pts, not achieved, Brendan Rodgers OUT!
Drafted for BR already "The players played well and we believe we can turn it around the next time. It was a difficult game esp with 10 mn agst a disciplined Arsenal side. The last few minutes could have gone either way."
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The script is on the way to Anfield press room.
BR better don't say such thing....otherwise next few matches sure lose like mad.
from John Brewin:
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Liverpool deserved draw, and Rodgers masterplan came off: Borini as the falsest of nines.
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too funny not to post
Interesting match today. Both teams are not really in form.�You really wonder if either team deserves to win or not.�
Our aim has been to start fast and end strongly.
LOL
I am just glad that Gerrard didnt take corners towards the end.�
Does anyone notice if Sterling is observed to be exhausted and players like Lallana, Coutinho and Markovic do not have the fitness levels to last the full game?�
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Sakho seemed ok although a little clumsy at times.
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I still feel sad for Borini. He showed bright sparks and was eager to get the ball into the game. He may have signed off his last game or maybe, DEVALUE his fee.
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Our CPT SG. I wish he was given a card so that he can be suspended for the next game and explore pushing the ineffective Henderson to the central park.
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I really did not see much of Henderson in the last few games.
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Does anyone notice if Sterling is observed to be exhausted and players like Lallana, Coutinho and Markovic do not have the fitness levels to last the full game?�
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Sakho seemed ok although a little clumsy at times.
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I still feel sad for Borini. He showed bright sparks and was eager to get the ball into the game. He may have signed off his last game or maybe, DEVALUE his fee.
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Our CPT SG. I wish he was given a card so that he can be suspended for the next game and explore pushing the ineffective Henderson to the central park.
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I really did not see much of Henderson in the last few games.
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I feel Henderson's form has not been good ever since he is appointed as vice captain. I feel he will come into his own when Gerrard is_________
watch the arse goal again, wtf is Jones doing? Minolet cant command area, Jones cant stop any shots...�
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Mignolet is a very good shot stopper but he is weak in commanding his area.�
So anybody getting sack by the end of the year? So far no PL manager has been sack yet. Compare that to last season.�
Edited by Joseph22, 22 December 2014 - 05:02 AM.
Some good movement in the 1st half.
Still can't defend for nuts. When defending look ponderous.
Show character to come back so late in the game, especially with one man down. Skrtel powering home a header while carrying a head injury.
I am astonished by the statistics...
Gunners have 3 shots of goal, and 2 went in !
Either their attacks are strong or our defence are freaking terrible !
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We have so many shots�... and only 2 went in ...
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Anyway, we managed a decent draw.. can't really said that we have turn a corner, as what BR has said... let's wait for a few matches.. and we need to win a couple on the roads, before we can really said we have turned for the better...
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Hmm... we are still mid-table lah...
BR, we have to aim high !
We are LIVERPOOL, not a mid-table team !
Drafted for BR already "The players played well and we believe we can turn it around the next time. It was a difficult game esp with 10 mn agst a disciplined Arsenal side. The last few minutes could have gone either way."
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The script is on the way to Anfield press room.
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In fact BR said he believes Pool's performance in the 2-2 draw is better than the 5-1 win over Gunner in February ???
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One (incidentally a MU fan) posted a comment calling for ambulance!
Good game... Liverpool played very well
Liverpool almost have a non deserving goal... when sterling handballed.
a team that played so badly can still garner a draw from a team that played so call "well'... still a sad night....�
I am astonished by the statistics...
Gunners have 3 shots of goal, and 2 went in !
Either their attacks are strong or our defence are freaking terrible !
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We have so many shots�... and only 2 went in ...
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Anyway, we managed a decent draw.. can't really said that we have turn a corner, as what BR has said... let's wait for a few matches.. and we need to win a couple on the roads, before we can really said we have turned for the better...
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Hmm... we are still mid-table lah...
BR, we have to aim high !
We are LIVERPOOL, not a mid-table team !
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But we have a mid table manager with only proven record as �manager in 1 season in top division for a mid to low table club.�
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In fact BR said he believes Pool's performance in the 2-2 draw is better than the 5-1 win over Gunner in February ???
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One (incidentally a MU fan) posted a comment calling for ambulance!
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Cannot possibly say worse than last year, must always say better. Sounds like PAP haha.
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But we have a mid table manager with only proven record as �manager in 1 season in top division for a mid to low table club.�
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Cannot possibly say worse than last year, must always say better. Sounds like PAP haha.
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The draw was a very decent performance. But to compare it to the 5-1 win last season or most of the matches played last season when Pool was simply breathtaking, was work of fertile imagination if not hallucination, IMHO.�
Liverpool almost have a non deserving goal... when sterling handballed.
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Markovic looks good.....
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In truth, Arsenal played like sh*t
how did you all feel about Markovic's performance?
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Markovic looks good.....
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In truth, Arsenal played like sh*t
Yeah look good. But a bit kan jiong.. But I think its normal consider he didn't play for so long and suddenly throw into the big match.
Liverpool look good on attack.. But defend still like shit. Asernal recently seems not able to command game. What do u think is the issue??
Yeah look good. But a bit kan jiong.. But I think its normal consider he didn't play for so long and suddenly throw into the big match.
Liverpool look good on attack.. But defend still like shit. Asernal recently seems not able to command game. What do u think is the issue??
Mental... afraid to concede... especially with sterling, markovic and lallana
Many are saying henderson not at top form. He quite unlucky la. 1st...he needed to babysit gerrard. N not that lucas is playing, he being played as a RWB. His excellant performances was as a CM, his natural position. But as a vice capt, he must b the one to sacrifice.
how did you all feel about Markovic's performance?
i think its good.
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i would put him up with lallana esp if we are playing false nine with sterling central.
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he's a wide forward as far as i know, but ask to play left WB.... admirable
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before he was replaced, he was the one with the most completed dribbles => and he is Fast
Mental... afraid to concede... especially with sterling, markovic and lallana
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does look scary consider they might still have last season 5-1 in mind and had not been playing well
i think its good.
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i would put him up with lallana esp if we are playing false nine with sterling central.
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he's a wide forward as far as i know, but ask to play left WB.... admirable
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before he was replaced, he was the one with the most completed dribbles => and he is Fast
I think he also happen to be the weakess link last night in defend. not to mention kolo suddenly become spider again.. lol
the reason i ask because someone dislike me on this post....he did made known his name... just that i curious because he seems to think markovic played quite badly... given markovic's age, number of games he played with the first team and he still new to BPL, i think he did quite well.. giving chambers problems the whole time...
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Below is the comment, do you all agree?
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Don't agree. He's lack of confidence and loose too many balls. Looks slack for this game.
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I personally think markovic played with alot of confidence
See the match stats:
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the reason i ask because someone dislike me on this post....he did made known his name... just that i curious because he seems to think markovic played quite badly... given markovic's age, number of games he played with the first team and he still new to BPL, i think he did quite well.. giving chambers problems the whole time...
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Below is the comment, do you all agree?
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Don't agree. He's lack of confidence and loose too many balls. Looks slack for this game.
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I personally think markovic played with alot of confidence
defensively he is not as strong as we hope, but only Rodgers will play a wide fwd as WB, sacrifice his most effective box to box as another WB
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markovic looks slack, thats his style. litmanen also look damn slack when he plays, but i feel he has confidence, he can bring ball forward and make smart attacking runs.
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i wonder how moreno is feeling.. have markovic play rather than him
See the match stats:
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key stats: Pool 2 - 2 Arse
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no 3 points, useless to have 64% possession
Edited by Vegas, 22 December 2014 - 03:24 PM.
the reason i ask because someone dislike me on this post....he did made known his name... just that i curious because he seems to think markovic played quite badly... given markovic's age, number of games he played with the first team and he still new to BPL, i think he did quite well.. giving chambers problems the whole time...
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Below is the comment, do you all agree?
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Don't agree. He's lack of confidence and loose too many balls. Looks slack for this game.
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I personally think markovic played with alot of confidence
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According to what I read, he was one of the top Serbia youth player and after he transferred to Benfica, he blossomed into quite a good player that even Chelsea also want to sign him.
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I watched some of the clips and he looks like a player who has pace, usually deploy to play on either wings and sometimes just �behind striker. And when he plays for Serbia he tends to play in a more defensive role on the wing. Should be due to national coach's instructions.�
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I feel he is best suited to play just behind the strikers because not only he has pace, he can also dribble at players and he has vision to make that final pass to striker, just like Sterling. Just to add, I see Liverpool stocking up such players as well as Coutinho and Lallana who are very versatile, can play on the wings as well as behind the strikers. So they can rotate and interchange their positions without compromising the attacking shape of the team. Hence the strikers Liverpool need is also strikers who can run on the wing and all over the place in the attacking end.�
But you know the ago old saying, attack is the best form of defence and I think he did that very well
Would have like to see bellarin vs markovic
The stats look wrong... I though it's more balance.defensively he is not as strong as we hope, but only Rodgers will play a wide fwd as WB, sacrifice his most effective box to box as another WB
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markovic looks slack, thats his style. litmanen also look damn slack when he plays, but i feel he has confidence, he can bring ball forward and make smart attacking runs.
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i wonder how moreno is feeling.. have markovic play rather than him
key stats: Pool 2 - 2 Arse
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no 3 points, useless to have 64% possession
The stats look wrong... I though it's more balance.
first 20 min stats: we had 80% possession
Stats correct, I saw the same during the match last nightThe stats look wrong... I though it's more balance.
Stats correct, I saw the same during the match last night
Yeah u are right.. Haha I saw the wrong stats.
first 20 min stats: we had 80% possession
okay thanks.. I didn't watch the first 20 min.. only manage to start watching from second 1/2
juz my tot on the game... generally its one of the better games played dis season... cant really compared to last season though as we lost 2 impt players in suarez n stridge in for dis game... markovic is playing well in my opinion... someone who can dribble n try to beat players... as wat I can c, he is so much better than Henderson who is on the other flank... Henderson is almost invisible throughout the whole match other than the assist for coutinho... hope BR can c tat Henderson best position is at CM instead of the flank.... lucas as usual is the one who's helping out the defence... providing the�himself for the defence to pass to when defence is in danger... overall play is much balance now for dis match... I believe when stridge is bk, pools fortune will improve a lot... defence is still a huge question mark tats the point to note though... wif stridge bk, markovic on the right, sterling on the left, lucas and Henderson as holding CM and lalana slightly above lucas and henderson, behind stridge... SG as impact sub, lastly of coz a new GK....
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wat do u guys think??
juz my tot on the game... generally its one of the better games played dis season... cant really compared to last season though as we lost 2 impt players in suarez n stridge in for dis game... markovic is playing well in my opinion... someone who can dribble n try to beat players... as wat I can c, he is so much better than Henderson who is on the other flank... Henderson is almost invisible throughout the whole match other than the assist for coutinho... hope BR can c tat Henderson best position is at CM instead of the flank.... lucas as usual is the one who's helping out the defence... providing the�himself for the defence to pass to when defence is in danger... overall play is much balance now for dis match... I believe when stridge is bk, pools fortune will improve a lot... defence is still a huge question mark tats the point to note though... wif stridge bk, markovic on the right, sterling on the left, lucas and Henderson as holding CM and lalana slightly above lucas and henderson, behind stridge... SG as impact sub, lastly of coz a new GK....
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wat do u guys think??
we had been commenting about this for the whole year (including last season)
Liverpool's midfielders need some shooting practice.�
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All can't shoot decently.
in terms of possession, it was better than last year's 5-1 game
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if LS and DS were around last sunday, we could repeat a 4 goal first half
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BR got it right in terms of tactics to dominate the midfield during half time, but as usual, defence sucks big time
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anyway, i can see they are playing slightly better than last month. at least now got some possession and attempts to attack. think BR have bought himself time until Jan at least. See how much FSG willing back him up in Jan transfer
in terms of possession, it was better than last year's 5-1 game
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if LS and DS were around last sunday, we could repeat a 4 goal first half
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BR got it right in terms of tactics to dominate the midfield during half time, but as usual, defence sucks big time
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anyway, i can see they are playing slightly better than last month. at least now got some possession and attempts to attack. think BR have bought himself time until Jan at least. See how much FSG willing back him up in Jan transfer
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defence sucks for very long oreadi... so are they getting enough protection?
we spent a lot on FBs, WBs and yet play a winger and a CM in those positions. what happened to manquillio and moreno?
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we spent even 10m on a gk who is on bench, replace by a gk who do not know how to stop shots =>
any team with top 4 ambition should not have brad jones as first choice!
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we have 20M defenders who cannot defend...�
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so is out mf not giving enough protection? or they simply dunno how to defend? ;p
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the table today is the same as Woy's time in charge. and woy although made bad signings, never buy really expensive signings.
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defence sucks for very long oreadi... so are they getting enough protection?
we spent a lot on FBs, WBs and yet play a winger and a CM in those positions. what happened to manquillio and moreno?
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we spent even 10m on a gk who is on bench, replace by a gk who do not know how to stop shots =>
any team with top 4 ambition should not have brad jones as first choice!
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we have 20M defenders who cannot defend...�
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so is out mf not giving enough protection? or they simply dunno how to defend? ;p
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the table today is the same as Woy's time in charge. and woy although made bad signings, never buy really expensive signings.
Guess what... He start playing Lucas around the same time too...
I dun think Lovern is that bad... just that he was thrown into a system where either he is not familiar or BR duno how to teach...
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Hw to teach? BR said Liverpool do not need defensive coach LOL
It's been mentioned by the best man for the job and the players one match after another, either before the match or after the match when results are just ok only.
Maybe they are so hard up for turning point? Lol
All 3 bought by Rafa.
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This week our 3 best players are Skrtel, Lucas and Sterling.
All 3 bought by Rafa.
:)
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RB left when he didn't have time to see his fruits... pity ...
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Anyway, hope Pool can win our matches in this Christmas period...
then this would be a big Christmas Present to each and every Pool Fan :))
Just to laugh at ourselves
Anyway, BR finally admits that Balo may not fit in
http://prosoccertalk...tactical-plans/
Edited by Raymondism, 25 December 2014 - 10:37 AM.
Merry Christmas to all...
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Just to laugh at ourselves
Anyway, BR finally admits that Balo may not fit in
http://prosoccertalk...tactical-plans/
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again i feel its he dunno how to adapt to the players who are available to him
Pool's poor home form explained:
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BR feels the old pitch hinder Pool's one touch football and ordered the pitch be relaid in the summer.
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It's not the case of bad workman blames his tools, about 1/3 of the people polled feel BR has a point!
Pool's poor home form explained:
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BR feels the old pitch hinder Pool's one touch football and ordered the pitch be relaid in the summer.
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It's not the case of bad workman blames his tools, about 1/3 of the people polled feel BR has a point!
Don't know how to swim.. Blame the swimming truck too big... Bravor
Y can't he just shut his mouth n put his energy on the training ground
Really hope that pool break his jinx mouth tomorrow
Whenever BR shoots his smelly mouth pools suffer
Y can't he just shut his mouth n put his energy on the training ground
Really hope that pool break his jinx mouth tomorrow
Yes he should really keep quiet
And let the results do the talking.
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Yes he should really keep quiet
And let the results do the talking.
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Totally agreed !
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We want to see results, and less talking !
And starting from tonight match !
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My humble prediction:
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Burnley vs Liverpool
1-3: ktglfc
This week our 3 best players are Skrtel, Lucas and Sterling.
All 3 bought by Rafa.
:)
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Skrtel is a brave man. Saw the staples on his scalp.
But the defending against the goal was also abysmal.
Maybe our striker should be defender and our backs become striker better , clean sheet and goals a plenty for a change
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n now he shoots his mouth saying balo not suited to pool's play, n that he should b prepared to warm the bench. WTF!!
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Skrtel is a brave man. Saw the staples on his scalp.
But the defending against the goal was also abysmal.
Same as Debussy, he let Couti turn him to score n he scored one back.
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Yup Skrtel let one in and scored one.
Same as Debussy, he let Couti turn him to score n he scored one back.
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Skrtel always let in one and then score one back
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Skrtel always let in one and then score one back
Yeah you are right.
He always scores with a great header and let's one in with a bad header.
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Burnley? Waah tough game leh . . . . 2:1
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Skrtel is a brave man. Saw the staples on his scalp.
But the defending against the goal was also abysmal.
head Injury and score with head.
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Tao nao pai
Lallana says that his best position is down the centre... do u agree?
Substitutes: Mignolet, Lambert, Moreno, Manquillo, Can, Balotelli, Ojo.
No change in the team. Mayb rodgers saw that they performed quite well in the last game n decides to remain unchanged for the first time this season. The interesting part is the bench....young Ojo is selected. Hopefully can see him play.
3 games, and apparently we need all 9 pts.
tall order given that we have not won 2 lge games on the trot let alone 3
Again sterling tried to do it himself. Couls hv easily released coutinho on the right side...instead tried to dribble past 3 defenders.
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