Thứ Sáu, 30 tháng 12, 2016

2015 Forester 2.0 part 42

  • 05 June 2016 - 11:19 AM
    JohnSHL

    That's very likely u don't drive w/o air cond.

    Have u seen a leaky sunroof?

    if in SG/Msia, very rare for me to drive without AC... only at highland areas or at sepang.

    leaky sunroof - yes, I know a few subie friends in SG/Msia that kena sunroof leak. Either the rubber seal spoil or the drainage pipe choke n overflow. I saw the photos they sent over WhatsApp.


  • 05 June 2016 - 12:03 PM
    edcho37

    Collected my ride yesterday on a light drizzle day. Saw many cars, especially Forester ready for collection, MI is really doing well. My SE already pre check my car for defects and took an hour plus to go through the car features with me while my CO checked the check interior and exterior with her eagle eyes. All swee swee and I left MI with the new car 2 hours.

    I noticed a few SE going through the car features very quickly with their customer, all done in less than 30 mins. Glad that my SE really took the time to slowly show me the various features of the car which is quite a lot. This is my third ride and he's the most detailed so far.

    new SE?
    Name, please...
    Good!
  • 05 June 2016 - 12:20 PM
    shev88
    Hi All, signed for the NA last week and can't wait to receive it already. Was reading thru its user manual but have a question on the 6.2 inch HU. Hope the existing NA owners can advise:
    1. There is a "shuffle all" and "shuffle folder" mode. May I know what are the differences? E.g shuffle folder refers to shuffling songs within the folder I'm in now or shuffle by folders/ shuffle all refers to shuffle all songs in the USB drive?
  • 05 June 2016 - 01:10 PM
    Tohto

    Collected my ride yesterday on a light drizzle day. Saw many cars, especially Forester ready for collection, MI is really doing well. My SE already pre check my car for defects and took an hour plus to go through the car features with me while my CO checked the check interior and exterior with her eagle eyes. All swee swee and I left MI with the new car 2 hours.

    I noticed a few SE going through the car features very quickly with their customer, all done in less than 30 mins. Glad that my SE really took the time to slowly show me the various features of the car which is quite a lot. This is my third ride and he's the most detailed so far.


    Your SE name start with T ?
  • 05 June 2016 - 01:36 PM
    Little_prince

    Hi Bro,

    You mean there is a demo car list at the counter ?
    I will like to check this also.

    When I booked my XT last week, SE told me it was the last unit available. So I don't know if my car is the demo unit or not.
    We can based on the mileage during car collection but no one can guarantee that the odometer was not tempered before.
    Unless we can counter check against the demo car engine / chasis number.


    You think used car dealer meh.

    The AD reputation is worth much much more than just one car
  • 05 June 2016 - 02:01 PM
    Swaku

    Your SE name start with T ?

    Yes bro. Even my wife was impressed by him. She's in customer service line for many years and is very particular about this. He's quite careful with freebies but gives good service which is what I like.
  • 05 June 2016 - 02:14 PM
    BenTong

    Yes bro. Even my wife was impressed by him. She's in customer service line for many years and is very particular about this. He's quite careful with freebies but gives good service which is what I like.

    Hopefully
  • 05 June 2016 - 08:03 PM
    Davidtch

    for going over pools of water, tires with good thread depth and good anti-aquaplaning design probably matter more than AWD. But still, I wld prefer AWD in such conditions compared to FWD or RWD.

    Well, it depends on how robust the steering rack is.

    My previous BMW 520 went through similar situation a number of time.� Steering has minor jerk but still going straight at 110km/h.

    I swear by Michelin Tyre.


  • 05 June 2016 - 08:21 PM
    mrhan1982

    for going over pools of water, tires with good thread depth and good anti-aquaplaning design probably matter more than AWD. But still, I wld prefer AWD in such conditions compared to FWD or RWD.

    Yup good tires are important. I've encountered similar situations with a powerful v6 rear wheel with high performance tires with excellent wet grip, and i can tell u rear wheel drive cars are the worst hit in such wet conditions. The chances of fish tail and aqua planning are very very high. Once your tires loses traction, that's where u start to lose control of your steering and things can go very very wrong. No matter what kind of tires u have, they will not save u. :mellow:


    Seriously? That's not what service adviser Jason told me on the phone last week. Thank for the heads up, bro. I wonder if they have the 0W20 explicitly recommended in the Legacy/Outback manual (same manual). But the manual also says if don't have 0W20, also can use 5W30 and 5W40, so maybe that's who the 5W40 is for (though I dowan).
    I love the bit about enjoying your 8-speaker HK system so much you didn't realise the speed. Slow down, bro!

    guess i'm still getting used the car. Didn't felt like it was 100kmph. tot i was only traveling at 80kmph.� [laugh]


  • 05 June 2016 - 08:49 PM
    Rachdanom

    Agree. AWD cars is safer than fwd or rwd cars. The better stability and safety more than off-set the higher FC especially on wet or flooded road.

    I think the safety kicks in only if you go too fast, like those Youtube videos where they test the car. �Normal driving human instinct makes us �slow down so AWD or FWD not a big factor. �Either case dont take a risk and slow down!


  • 05 June 2016 - 10:00 PM
    wheelogist

    I think the safety kicks in only if you go too fast, like those Youtube videos where they test the car. Normal driving human instinct makes us slow down so AWD or FWD not a big factor. Either case dont take a risk and slow down!

    Well,awd definately gives better road holding even at slower speed.
  • 05 June 2016 - 10:42 PM
    Davidtch

    Yup good tires are important. I've encountered similar situations with a powerful v6 rear wheel with high performance tires with excellent wet grip, and i can tell u rear wheel drive cars are the worst hit in such wet conditions. The chances of fish tail and aqua planning are very very high. Once your tires loses traction, that's where u start to lose control of your steering and things can go very very wrong. No matter what kind of tires u have, they will not save u. :mellow:


    guess i'm still getting used the car. Didn't felt like it was 100kmph. tot i was only traveling at 80kmph.� [laugh]

    That sounds like a Lexus.


  • 05 June 2016 - 10:53 PM
    mrhan1982

    That sounds like a Lexus.

    nah just a mark x with michellin ps3


  • 05 June 2016 - 10:57 PM
    Muser

    I think the safety kicks in only if you go too fast, like those Youtube videos where they test the car. Normal driving human instinct makes us slow down so AWD or FWD not a big factor. Either case dont take a risk and slow down!

    What I like about Subaru's AWD doesn't require breaking traction to enjoy. The handling simply feels more precise and predictable when driving fast (but within speed limits), compared to many FWD and RWD cars I've driven. It's about confidence-inspiring poise, and steering accuracy.

    And when you do break traction, I've got to give credit to the electronics. VDC (Vehicle Dynamics Control) and active torque vectoring compensate for both understeer (FWD prob) and oversteer (RWD prob) to keep you on your line, and this comes with all Subaru models I know of except the XV. Many cars comes with smart traction control these days, but traction control is inherently more effective when you have more wheels to distribute power to.

    Of course, there are those who say that AWD is boring precisely because it's so safe. And I have a buddy who excels at RWD throttle steering, which you can't do with AWD - at least not in the same way. But my needs are different, so give me boringly safe and predictable any day, please, thank you very much.
  • 06 June 2016 - 09:37 AM
    Davidtch

    nah just a mark x with michellin ps3

    That doesn't surprise me at all.� I have a fren who drives 7th gen Mark II in NZ when he was a student.� The car always lost traction.


  • 06 June 2016 - 11:01 AM
    Turboforester
    Speaking of tyres for xt still no other good replacement for stock?
  • 06 June 2016 - 01:21 PM
    mrhan1982

    That doesn't surprise me at all. I have a fren who drives 7th gen Mark II in NZ when he was a student. The car always lost traction.

    Not sure about mark II. But mark x has bad traction, in short bad handling unlike the IS250. Steering is way too light and almost no feedback. Doesn't give u the confidence to utilise the v6 engine at all. The car itself sways quite abut during quick lane change as it uses the gs3000 platform but the IS250 engine and transmission. Wth?!! I know of many users who mod their mark x to improve its handling with lower springs etc which screws up ride comfort big time and makes it quite unbalanced.

    Speaking of tyres for xt still no other good replacement for stock?

    The odd size tires really give users like us a big headache when we need to replace them in the future...

    Anyone tried fitting 235/50/18 into the rims? It's more easily available compare to our stock.

    Edited by mrhan1982, 06 June 2016 - 01:20 PM.

  • 06 June 2016 - 01:57 PM
    Davidtch

    Not sure about mark II. But mark x has bad traction, in short bad handling unlike the IS250. Steering is way too light and almost no feedback. Doesn't give u the confidence to utilise the v6 engine at all. The car itself sways quite abut during quick lane change as it uses the gs3000 platform but the IS250 engine and transmission. Wth?!! I know of many users who mod their mark x to improve its handling with lower springs etc which screws up ride comfort big time and makes it quite unbalanced.
    The odd size tires really give users like us a big headache when we need to replace them in the future...

    Anyone tried fitting 235/50/18 into the rims? It's more easily available compare to our stock.

    is/GS/Mark X/Crown shares the same platform lah.

    Try Michelin Primacy 3


  • 06 June 2016 - 02:32 PM
    Icarus

    Anyone changed their Forester 'circus' horn? Can i buy the horn and ask MI to install it during next servicing?�


  • 06 June 2016 - 02:59 PM
    JohnSHL

    is/GS/Mark X/Crown shares the same platform lah.

    Try Michelin Primacy 3

    friend of mine driving is250 was involved in a single-vehicle accident on nshw. Was driving over a wet patch when suddenly served into the center longkang dividing the two sides of the highway.

    was using old worn out�GY asym 2s, which I had told him a few months ago to get changed.

    fortunately both he n his kid were uninjured.


  • 06 June 2016 - 03:28 PM
    Jamesgetz

    Anyone changed their Forester 'circus' horn? Can i buy the horn and ask MI to install it during next servicing?�

    I don't think MI will do that, especially when it's non-original Subaru parts.�

    Horns can be easily changed at car audio shops and it's a relatively low risk mod in terms of warranty if you�get�one�of reputable brand (eg. hella, FIAAM, PIAA).� But if you are really paranoid about�car warranty, then don't touch it and don't bother reading any further...

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I suggest you check with the shop first if they done it for the forester which comes with a pair of 2 horns.� 1 of the horns is hidden behind�the front right bumper in which the installer can ccess via front right�wheel�well's "banana leaf" plastic flap.� This is much easier than removing the�whole front bumper...�

    I did mine at Nam Huat at Toh Guan centre which is near Jurong East.� Costs me about $50 including installation for Hella twin-tone horns.� Installation took about 5-10 mins as the installer was familiar with�foresters which he has�changed the horns for quite�a few recently.


  • 06 June 2016 - 04:36 PM
    Icarus

    I don't think MI will do that, especially when it's non-original Subaru parts.�

    Horns can be easily changed at car audio shops and it's a relatively low risk mod in terms of warranty if you�get�one�of reputable brand (eg. hella, FIAAM, PIAA).� But if you are really paranoid about�car warranty, then don't touch it and don't bother reading any further...

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I suggest you check with the shop first if they done it for the forester which comes with a pair of 2 horns.� 1 of the horns is hidden behind�the front right bumper in which the installer can ccess via front right�wheel�well's "banana leaf" plastic flap.� This is much easier than removing the�whole front bumper...�

    I did mine at Nam Huat at Toh Guan centre which is near Jurong East.� Costs me about $50 including installation for Hella twin-tone horns.� Installation took about 5-10 mins as the installer was familiar with�foresters which he has�changed the horns for quite�a few recently.

    Thanks for the tips! I will go down to Nam Huat to check it out.�


  • 06 June 2016 - 04:58 PM
    Jamesgetz
    For those who are keen to know their forester better, I would highly recommend this US forum. It contains a wealth of useful info and technical discussions, be it stock or heavily modded cars:

    http://www.subarufor...ulletin/#/enter

    Edited by Jamesgetz, 06 June 2016 - 05:00 PM.

  • 06 June 2016 - 05:23 PM
    Pocus

    Just to share the importance of having awd on a wet or flooded road. I was traveling along tpe the other day and it was drizzling. Lane 1 right side was flooded probably a few inch of water? I didn't notice the pool of water initially as it was only drizzling and didn't know the pool of water. I was doing about 100kmph and suddenly I heard a loud woosshh and saw water splashed over my car. I was shock for a moment and i got worried. But thanks to awd and the excellent traction control, my xt didn't even flinch. Steering wheel never twitch and I was still in total control. It's really amazing with 2 wheels on my right partially drown in water and the car still can maintain perfect composure.

    Btw, I was listening to music on the hk and didn't realise I was already traveling at 100kmph.

    Your FXT can take more punishment than that, cos your Vehicle Stability Control VSC didn't even kick in.

    Once it kicks it you will hear a beep and the info screen will show the message "VSC activated", that's when you know your forester's safety features really saved you.

    Edited by Pocus, 06 June 2016 - 05:24 PM.

  • 06 June 2016 - 07:49 PM
    mrhan1982

    Your FXT can take more punishment than that, cos your Vehicle Stability Control VSC didn't even kick in.

    Once it kicks it you will hear a beep and the info screen will show the message "VSC activated", that's when you know your forester's safety features really saved you.

    Yep, �a small puddle of water has no kick on its awd system. Its awd didnt even twitch, let alone trouble VSC to kick in. Even on curvy bends, this car sticks to the road like super glue, of course u can still feel that body roll because of the tall height. really amazing technology. Drove a CX 5 for about 7 months before. It did felt like it has a tight body with better handling, but I realized that it couldn't go pretty fast. (maybe that's y i got the feel that it has good body control and handling) On my XT, sometimes, i got to really check my speedo to realize that i'm actually going quite fast. just a light tap on the throttle and it moves fast without breaking a sweat. As a result, it delivers pretty good FC.�


    is/GS/Mark X/Crown shares the same platform lah.

    Try Michelin Primacy 3

    Hmm, always tot that mark x shared same body (platform as GS3000). hence the same interior space (with the big hump behind), but it uses the same engine and gearbox as IS250. Anyway, these types of cars are not meant to be driven fast. They are too comfortable for fast driving.� [laugh]


  • 06 June 2016 - 07:56 PM
    BenTong

    Yup good tires are important. I've encountered similar situations with a powerful v6 rear wheel with high performance tires with excellent wet grip, and i can tell u rear wheel drive cars are the worst hit in such wet conditions. The chances of fish tail and aqua planning are very very high. Once your tires loses traction, that's where u start to lose control of your steering and things can go very very wrong. No matter what kind of tires u have, they will not save u. :mellow:

    guess i'm still getting used the car. Didn't felt like it was 100kmph. tot i was only traveling at 80kmph. [laugh]

    Better check how many samans you already have...
  • 06 June 2016 - 08:59 PM
    Pocus

    Yep, a small puddle of water has no kick on its awd system. Its awd didnt even twitch, let alone trouble VSC to kick in. Even on curvy bends, this car sticks to the road like super glue, of course u can still feel that body roll because of the tall height. really amazing technology. Drove a CX 5 for about 7 months before. It did felt like it has a tight body with better handling, but I realized that it couldn't go pretty fast. (maybe that's y i got the feel that it has good body control and handling) On my XT, sometimes, i got to really check my speedo to realize that i'm actually going quite fast. just a light tap on the throttle and it moves fast without breaking a sweat. As a result, it delivers pretty good FC.


    Hmm, always tot that mark x shared same body (platform as GS3000). hence the same interior space (with the big hump behind), but it uses the same engine and gearbox as IS250. Anyway, these types of cars are not meant to be driven fast. They are too comfortable for fast driving. [laugh]

    Ok lah, to be fair, the CX5 does have exceptional handling for a SUV. Just that the 2.0 engine didn't do much justice to delivery it. Although I never drive one but I heard the 2.5 version does balance the car out in terms of power and handling. Pretty much like what the Mazda 3 2.0 did to the chassis.

    Too bad our tax system favor the smaller engine versions.

    In Japan the 2 top SUVs are the Harrier and CX5. Foresters are not that common :( partly due to the pricing.

    Edited by Pocus, 06 June 2016 - 08:59 PM.

  • 06 June 2016 - 09:19 PM
    Tohto

    Ok lah, to be fair, the CX5 does have exceptional handling for a SUV. Just that the 2.0 engine didn't do much justice to delivery it. Although I never drive one but I heard the 2.5 version does balance the car out in terms of power and handling. Pretty much like what the Mazda 3 2.0 did to the chassis.

    Too bad our tax system favor the smaller engine versions.

    In Japan the 2 top SUVs are the Harrier and CX5. Foresters are not that common :( partly due to the pricing.

    Actually in many part of the world the Forester are selling at a more higher price than others Japanese SUV.

    One of my China office colleague is in Singapore now, he just bought a CX5 in China. He mention that the Forester are a lot more expensive there compared to others Japanese SUV so it is not so popular.�


  • 06 June 2016 - 10:35 PM
    mrhan1982

    Ok lah, to be fair, the CX5 does have exceptional handling for a SUV. Just that the 2.0 engine didn't do much justice to delivery it. Although I never drive one but I heard the 2.5 version does balance the car out in terms of power and handling. Pretty much like what the Mazda 3 2.0 did to the chassis.

    Too bad our tax system favor the smaller engine versions.

    In Japan the 2 top SUVs are the Harrier and CX5. Foresters are not that common :( partly due to the pricing.

    Actually the 2.5L cx5 felt heavy when loaded with 4 adults. The 2.5L one is already 100kg heavier than the 2.0. Both versions have noisy engines, especially during initial acceleration. Initially acceleration is good but it kinda loses steam quickly past 70-80kmph. The 6 speed auto box is very geared towards fuel efficiency. It didn't feel quite planted to the road above 100kmph. Car starts to feel floaty like a typical Jap sedan. Handling is considered good at Low speeds (20-60) around town when traveling with just 1 passenger. When fully loaded, handling feels a bit unbalanced and it loses the fun part.
  • 07 June 2016 - 10:52 AM
    Redfur

    4th Generation Forester Development- Boxer Engine, Subaru's AWD and safety features, VDC, X-mode, Si-Drive, Lineartronics.

    Multiple short videos-https://www.youtube....SBSbTsunEatjBFK


  • 07 June 2016 - 11:39 AM
    Slowcat

    Just to share, 1st servicing .. SE called and:

    a. suggest auto mirrors closing function for $150 - I took up offer, use $100 from DUOS points

    b. undercoating - which I declined

    I think that they pumped the tyres really high pressure, felt very light after the servicing. I'll check later.

    cheers


  • 07 June 2016 - 12:10 PM
    BenTong

    Ok lah, to be fair, the CX5 does have exceptional handling for a SUV. Just that the 2.0 engine didn't do much justice to delivery it. Although I never drive one but I heard the 2.5 version does balance the car out in terms of power and handling. Pretty much like what the Mazda 3 2.0 did to the chassis.

    Too bad our tax system favor the smaller engine versions.

    In Japan the 2 top SUVs are the Harrier and CX5. Foresters are not that common :( partly due to the pricing.

    In JB also :a-fun:�, harrier very very very popular!!!!!! :ninja:


  • 07 June 2016 - 12:21 PM
    MQX87511

    In JB also :a-fun:�, harrier very very very popular!!!!!! :ninja:

    Malaysia top 3 SUV is:

    1. CRV

    2. CX5

    3. Harrier/RAV4

    very rare to see Forester leh :shy:


  • 07 June 2016 - 12:23 PM
    BenTong

    Malaysia top 3 SUV is:

    1. CRV

    2. CX5

    3. Harrier/RAV4

    very rare to see Forester leh :shy:

    next time u drive up north park next to the CRV,CX5,Harrier,Rav 4...

    you will be safe :a-fun:


  • 07 June 2016 - 12:34 PM
    Quantum

    Malaysia top 3 SUV is:

    1. CRV

    2. CX5

    3. Harrier/RAV4

    very rare to see Forester leh :shy:

    Malaysia local has factory to assemble CRV/CX5/RAV4/Harrier, but Forester is imported from Japan, therefore the price is dramatically different�about�RM80k, lets say�CRV/CX5/RAV4/Harrier/X-Trail only RM140k around, but Forester XT up to RM220k close to Conti SUVs price liao, definitely no market lah :D


  • 07 June 2016 - 01:57 PM
    Jaris32

    Just to share, 1st servicing .. SE called and:

    a. suggest auto mirrors closing function for $150 - I took up offer, use $100 from DUOS points

    b. undercoating - which I declined

    I think that they pumped the tyres really high pressure, felt very light after the servicing. I'll check later.


    cheers

    Same here bro. 1,000 km servicing today. SA Kelvin asked if I wanna install auto fold gadget using DUO points to offset some cost. That's all he asked.

    Cheers!
  • 07 June 2016 - 02:10 PM
    Carnut1969

    Yes bro. Even my wife was impressed by him. She's in customer service line for many years and is very particular about this. He's quite careful with freebies but gives good service which is what I like.



    Bro. Can PM his name n contact ? Thanks
  • 07 June 2016 - 02:13 PM
    Davidtch

    Malaysia local has factory to assemble CRV/CX5/RAV4/Harrier, but Forester is imported from Japan, therefore the price is dramatically different�about�RM80k, lets say�CRV/CX5/RAV4/Harrier/X-Trail only RM140k around, but Forester XT up to RM220k close to Conti SUVs price liao, definitely no market lah :D

    RAV4/Harrier comes from Japan.� These car are mostly imported as used/recon car.�

    2015 Harrier price is around RM 200 - 240k

    Forester NA is assembled in Malaysia.

    CRV/CX5/Forester NA/XV has price within the range of RM 150k - 160k


  • 07 June 2016 - 02:57 PM
    Icarus

    Same here bro. 1,000 km servicing today. SA Kelvin asked if I wanna install auto fold gadget using DUO points to offset some cost. That's all he asked.

    Cheers!

    Is the side mirror auto fold really useful? There is already a button to fold the mirror in right?

    I was hoping to have a gadget to auto lock the car when i press the brakes or drive off. LOL


  • 07 June 2016 - 03:42 PM
    Muser

    Same here bro. 1,000 km servicing today. SA Kelvin asked if I wanna install auto fold gadget using DUO points to offset some cost. That's all he asked.

    Cheers!

    You lucky Forester folks. I recall offering to pay to add auto-folding mirrors to my Legacy and being told that it wasn't possible. Pay money leh, also cannot. Who are both of your SAs, please? Maybe I can politely inquire if they can help me out. Thanks in advance.
  • 07 June 2016 - 03:50 PM
    Jaris32

    You lucky Forester folks. I recall offering to pay to add auto-folding mirrors to my Legacy and being told that it wasn't possible. Pay money leh, also cannot. Who are both of your SAs, please? Maybe I can politely inquire if they can help me out. Thanks in advance.

    His name is Kelvin

    Is the side mirror auto fold really useful? There is already a button to fold the mirror in right?

    I was hoping to have a gadget to auto lock the car when i press the brakes or drive off. LOL

    At least it folds when you lock the doors and forget to fold it via pressing the button
  • 07 June 2016 - 03:55 PM
    Danmak

    Is the side mirror auto fold really useful? There is already a button to fold the mirror in right?

    I was hoping to have a gadget to auto lock the car when i press the brakes or drive off. LOL

    Yah, would think an auto lock car when driving off will be good.
  • 07 June 2016 - 04:41 PM
    TurboForest

    ya, starting this year, Forester NA is assembled in Malaysia.. think they had very good promotion price of M$120k+++

    But FXR still imported and should cost about M$220k ++

    since they are starting the CKD models there, hopefully we can more easily �source parts and accessories there to complement what we have here.


  • 07 June 2016 - 06:43 PM
    mrhan1982

    Just to share, 1st servicing .. SE called and:

    a. suggest auto mirrors closing function for $150 - I took up offer, use $100 from DUOS points

    b. undercoating - which I declined

    I think that they pumped the tyres really high pressure, felt very light after the servicing. I'll check later.


    cheers

    I'm going for 1k servicing this Thursday morning. Going to do auto fold mirror too. It's a lazy man feature.

    How to check duo points? I nv receive any letter from them so far in duo membership.
  • 07 June 2016 - 08:49 PM
    Muser

    I'm going for 1k servicing this Thursday morning. Going to do auto fold mirror too. It's a lazy man feature.

    How to check duo points? I nv receive any letter from them so far in duo membership.

    And I'm a very lazy man.

    Have you signed up for an account on the Duo website yet? I think you need an account first in order for your car purchase to be credited in points. Then you bug SE or MI to credit the points.
  • 07 June 2016 - 10:43 PM
    Tohto

    And I'm a very lazy man.

    Have you signed up for an account on the Duo website yet? I think you need an account first in order for your car purchase to be credited in points. Then you bug SE or MI to credit the points.

    On the day I signed up for the car. My DUO point account already created. I received email same day ask me to log in and create my password. The point was zero till I collected my FXT.
  • 07 June 2016 - 10:53 PM
    Muser

    On the day I signed up for the car. My DUO point account already created. I received email same day ask me to log in and create my password. The point was zero till I collected my FXT.

    Oh yah, you're right, I think MI created one for me too, sorry sorry. Took about a week after collecting car for the points to be credited to my account though. My SE told me to wait at least 7 working days, which was quite zhun. I suspect it depends on your SE settling paperwork properly, but at most kpkb (sorry, I mean request courteously) and get the points credited now lor.
  • 07 June 2016 - 11:35 PM
    Sarion

    Your FXT can take more punishment than that, cos your Vehicle Stability Control VSC didn't even kick in.

    Once it kicks it you will hear a beep and the info screen will show the message "VSC activated", that's when you know your forester's safety features really saved you.

    I won't advise risking it. even AWD with good tyres still may have issue on really big puddles. Michelin PS3 is not good enuf even for such situation, I feel Goodyear AS2 was better but still, without traction control, still not sufficient confidence to go 90 or higher...�

    I now stick to 2nd lane in heavy rain to be safe rather than sorry.


  • 08 June 2016 - 12:46 AM
    Iluvchoco
    Just getting my forester today. Noticed a few things on the way back.
    1. The break is quite responsive. But even when i already slow down to 10km/h and then press to bottom, the car still need to go a bit more before completely stop. I then got a bit worried if god forbid i need a e-break someday.

    2. The bonnet seems quite hot even just a short trip from jalan kayu (to hv dinner) to punggol at night.

    Can anyone advise are these common? Thanks.
  • 08 June 2016 - 02:12 AM
    SJGDKK8

    Just getting my forester today. Noticed a few things on the way back.
    1. The break is quite responsive. But even when i already slow down to 10km/h and then press to bottom, the car still need to go a bit more before completely stop. I then got a bit worried if god forbid i need a e-break someday.

    2. The bonnet seems quite hot even just a short trip from jalan kayu (to hv dinner) to punggol at night.

    Can anyone advise are these common? Thanks.

    New brake pads need to burn in. Go find a safe spot and do some hard braking and it should be better there after. That is my own experience, not just with FXT but with other new cars I drove before.
  • 08 June 2016 - 07:03 AM
    Muser

    Just getting my forester today. Noticed a few things on the way back.
    1. The break is quite responsive. But even when i already slow down to 10km/h and then press to bottom, the car still need to go a bit more before completely stop. I then got a bit worried if god forbid i need a e-break someday.

    2. The bonnet seems quite hot even just a short trip from jalan kayu (to hv dinner) to punggol at night.

    Can anyone advise are these common? Thanks.

    As SJGDKK8 says, you probably need to bed in your pads properly. But don't stomp on them. Brake a bit, then release, then repeat. Do it on an empty road, at moderate speed. Braking too hard for too long at this stage may glaze your pads (too much heat), which would ruin them and make your braking power even worse. Your manual should have advice on bedding your pads properly. My Legacy/Outback manual does.
  • 08 June 2016 - 08:36 AM
    Tohto

    Just getting my forester today. Noticed a few things on the way back.
    1. The break is quite responsive. But even when i already slow down to 10km/h and then press to bottom, the car still need to go a bit more before completely stop. I then got a bit worried if god forbid i need a e-break someday.

    2. The bonnet seems quite hot even just a short trip from jalan kayu (to hv dinner) to punggol at night.

    Can anyone advise are these common? Thanks.

    The brake will take about 500km to break in. It will slowly improve.

    Don't make last mins braking or follow to close.


  • 08 June 2016 - 10:03 AM
    Redfur

    I �also got auto folding mirrors. But realise after that that auto TILT mirror when reversing would be more useful. Not sure if its available.


  • 08 June 2016 - 10:04 AM
    Little_prince

    ya, starting this year, Forester NA is assembled in Malaysia.. think they had very good promotion price of M$120k+++

    But FXR still imported and should cost about M$220k ++

    since they are starting the CKD models there, hopefully we can more easily �source parts and accessories there to complement what we have here.

    FNA assembled in malaysia ah?

    but singapore forester still come from japan right?


  • 08 June 2016 - 10:33 AM
    TurboForest

    Since its just newly started in Malaysia Segambut plant , will need to see future batches if its from Malaysia or singapore.

    But then MI already do partially assembly here to keep OMV low, imo probably FNA will still be from Japan.


  • 08 June 2016 - 10:40 AM
    Little_prince

    subaru got local assembly plant??? since when sia?

    Since its just newly started in Malaysia Segambut plant , will need to see future batches if its from Malaysia or singapore.

    But then MI already do partially assembly here to keep OMV low, imo probably FNA will still be from Japan.


  • 08 June 2016 - 10:58 AM
    TurboForest

    http://www.fhi.co.jp...016_02_26_1930/

    there u are...�

    the pricing also dropped by tens of thousands due to CKD...


  • 08 June 2016 - 11:07 AM
    Little_prince

    http://www.fhi.co.jp...016_02_26_1930/

    there u are...�

    the pricing also dropped by tens of thousands due to CKD...

    malaysia i know.

    but you were saying subaru does assembly in singapore is new to me.

    where you see that?


  • 08 June 2016 - 11:16 AM
    razor54

    I won't advise risking it. even AWD with good tyres still may have issue on really big puddles. Michelin PS3 is not good enuf even for such situation, I feel Goodyear AS2 was better but still, without traction control, still not sufficient confidence to go 90 or higher...
    I now stick to 2nd lane in heavy rain to be safe rather than sorry.

    Used Goodyear AS2 for my ex-car and it's very good in the wet.

    Don't mind trying the latest AS3 next, which was supposedly even superior than AS2, but seems like it will not be coming in the default sizing for our FXT here. Unless up a little to 235/50/R18.
  • 08 June 2016 - 11:21 AM
    razor54

    Just getting my forester today. Noticed a few things on the way back.
    1. The break is quite responsive. But even when i already slow down to 10km/h and then press to bottom, the car still need to go a bit more before completely stop. I then got a bit worried if god forbid i need a e-break someday.

    2. The bonnet seems quite hot even just a short trip from jalan kayu (to hv dinner) to punggol at night.

    Can anyone advise are these common? Thanks.

    As the others had advised, need breaking in period for your brakes to let the pads 'sit' in with your rotors. You will notice improvement in the braking department by the time you go for your 1st servicing.

    Bonnet hot quite common (and it stays hot for quite a while too). More important is the engine thermostat temperature. I think it's on one of the gauges on the info screen. But no worries...keep to the servicing schedule and it should be fine.
  • 08 June 2016 - 11:25 AM
    Pocus

    Just getting my forester today. Noticed a few things on the way back.
    1. The break is quite responsive. But even when i already slow down to 10km/h and then press to bottom, the car still need to go a bit more before completely stop. I then got a bit worried if god forbid i need a e-break someday.

    2. The bonnet seems quite hot even just a short trip from jalan kayu (to hv dinner) to punggol at night.

    Can anyone advise are these common? Thanks.

    1: brakes will get better after 1k mileage, however the brake power is still weaker than expected uf braking hard above 100kmh, not sure if its due to its heavy SUV stature. Practice safe driving as try not to tailgate.

    2: probably due to the location of the intercooler which is top mounted and the scoop is routed from the front instead of a hole at the top of the hood. Heat traps within.
  • 08 June 2016 - 11:30 AM
    BenTong

    subaru got local assembly plant??? since when sia?

    At Toa Payoh and Leng Kee la. Assemble the following:

    (1) Leather for seats

    (2) racks

    (3) door visors

    (4) Dash cam

    (5) reverse camera

    (6) roof racks

    (7) car mats

    (8) Speakers

    (9)

    then at LTA assembly plant install:

    (1) ARF

    (2) COE


  • 08 June 2016 - 12:18 PM
    WML888

    At Toa Payoh and Leng Kee la. Assemble the following:

    (1) Leather for seats
    (2) racks
    (3) door visors
    (4) Dash cam
    (5) reverse camera
    (6) roof racks
    (7) car mats
    (8) Speakers
    (9)

    then at LTA assembly plant install:
    (1) ARF
    (2) COE

    Leather for seats
    (2) racks
    (3) door visors
    (4) Dash cam
    (5) reverse camera
    (6) roof racks
    (7) car mats
    (8) Speakers
    (9) rear bumper guard also
  • 08 June 2016 - 02:00 PM
    SJGDKK8

    Leather for seats
    (2) racks
    (3) door visors
    (4) Dash cam
    (5) reverse camera
    (6) roof racks
    (7) car mats
    (8) Speakers
    (9) rear bumper guard also

    Do you guys know even the cars are shipped to Singapore in much cheaper weird looking rims? If you see those parking on the ram at TPY waiting for installation, you will notice.


  • 08 June 2016 - 02:17 PM
    JohnSHL

    At Toa Payoh and Leng Kee la. Assemble the following:

    (1) Leather for seats

    (2) racks

    (3) door visors

    (4) Dash cam

    (5) reverse camera

    (6) roof racks

    (7) car mats

    (8) Speakers

    (9)

    then at LTA assembly plant install:

    (1) ARF

    (2) COE

    most impt. need to install�ERP�IU too [crazy]


  • 08 June 2016 - 02:20 PM
    Muser

    Do you guys know even the cars are shipped to Singapore in much cheaper weird looking rims? If you see those parking on the ram at TPY waiting for installation, you will notice.

    In the case of the Legacy, even the HU, fog lights and reverse sensors are fitted locally. Keeps OMV, and therefore ARF, down. I'm fine with that since it means we get a good buying price.
  • 08 June 2016 - 02:21 PM
    JohnSHL

    Just getting my forester today. Noticed a few things on the way back.
    1. The break is quite responsive. But even when i already slow down to 10km/h and then press to bottom, the car still need to go a bit more before completely stop. I then got a bit worried if god forbid i need a e-break someday.

    2. The bonnet seems quite hot even just a short trip from jalan kayu (to hv dinner) to punggol at night.

    Can anyone advise are these common? Thanks.

    as others have said, new brake pads need to bed in (or burnish)

    similarly, new tyres need to wear off the outer "layer"


  • 08 June 2016 - 02:51 PM
    Little_prince

    local fitting i know lah

    he say assembly mah.

    i thought really assemble car in singapore. lol

    Leather for seats
    (2) racks
    (3) door visors
    (4) Dash cam
    (5) reverse camera
    (6) roof racks
    (7) car mats
    (8) Speakers
    (9) rear bumper guard also


  • 08 June 2016 - 04:04 PM
    Kobey

    Just getting my forester today. Noticed a few things on the way back.
    1. The break is quite responsive. But even when i already slow down to 10km/h and then press to bottom, the car still need to go a bit more before completely stop. I then got a bit worried if god forbid i need a e-break someday.

    2. The bonnet seems quite hot even just a short trip from jalan kayu (to hv dinner) to punggol at night.

    Can anyone advise are these common? Thanks.

    Got to agree about the brakes. Test drove the pre-FL one couple of months back. When slowing down to a stop at traffic (really crawling speed), I noticed and shared with the Sales Agent beside me on how come the car doesn't really come to an immediate stop even when I kinda floored the brake towards the end liao.�

    He say Jap brakes not as responsive. And suggest I can upgrade the brakes in future.�

    Perhaps its the size of the car that require that extra split seconds to brake the car to a full stop.


  • 08 June 2016 - 04:12 PM
    Silverkris

    Wondering how much the price will increase now??


  • 08 June 2016 - 04:22 PM
    Little_prince

    i suspect up another 5-10k.

    lol

    govt really sibei kiang to suck our money.

    Wondering how much the price will increase now??


  • 08 June 2016 - 04:49 PM
    Yeowww

    i got my coe..FXT coming liao.

    Please advise how to join the owner group, wanna get the 3d floor mat

    thanks


  • 08 June 2016 - 06:57 PM
    Rachdanom
    Just collected FXT today. Notice the mats are carpet type. Where to get rubber mats....preferably sized to the FXT?

    Edited by Rachdanom, 08 June 2016 - 06:58 PM.

  • 08 June 2016 - 07:04 PM
    mrhan1982

    Used Goodyear AS2 for my ex-car and it's very good in the wet.

    Don't mind trying the latest AS3 next, which was supposedly even superior than AS2, but seems like it will not be coming in the default sizing for our FXT here. Unless up a little to 235/50/R18.

    I think I will have to get 235/50r18 in future too. The stock size is really an oddball.

    Got to agree about the brakes. Test drove the pre-FL one couple of months back. When slowing down to a stop at traffic (really crawling speed), I noticed and shared with the Sales Agent beside me on how come the car doesn't really come to an immediate stop even when I kinda floored the brake towards the end liao.

    He say Jap brakes not as responsive. And suggest I can upgrade the brakes in future.

    Perhaps its the size of the car that require that extra split seconds to brake the car to a full stop.

    My fxt brakes are slightly less responsive when new. Now after 1k plus km, it's very responsive. Most of the time i dun have to step fully to stop the car completely. When I do step fully it actually stops. Great brakes.
  • 08 June 2016 - 07:04 PM
    razor54

    I think I will have to get 235/50r18 in future too. The stock size is really an oddball.

    If 235/50/R18 able to fit into our stock 18" rims, I will try the Goodyear AS3. With that size also opens up more choices.
  • 08 June 2016 - 07:06 PM
    mrhan1982

    Just collected FXT today. Notice the mats are carpet type. Where to get rubber mats....preferably sized to the FXT?

    Actually the 3A car mats (rubberised) comes as one of the foc surprised that your se nv give u. In addition, I also asked for boot mat.
  • 08 June 2016 - 07:09 PM
    razor54

    I think I will have to get 235/50r18 in future too. The stock size is really an oddball.
    My fxt brakes are slightly less responsive when new. Now after 1k plus km, it's very responsive. Most of the time i dun have to step fully to stop the car completely. When I do step fully it actually stops. Great brakes.

    Agree on the brakes part. Quite responsive to the pedal. So much that I have to keep reminding my wife not to step so hard at the lights...or else my dinner all come out.

    Just collected FXT today. Notice the mats are carpet type. Where to get rubber mats....preferably sized to the FXT?

    Never consider customised 3M mats? Comfortable to step on, lasting and easy to maintain. Dirt and sand will just 'disappear' by sinking into the mesh. To clean,just give it a few flips or rinse with water.

    Some owners here manages to get free 3A mats from dealer. But if you have already collected your car maybe a bit late to ask for it. 3A is much cheaper in price than 3M. But real life experience when 8 years ago I bought 3M and my friend bought 3A at the same time. Mine lasted 8 years until I sold off the car. His lasted 3 years and was torn at the heel part. Personal experience.

    Edited by razor54, 08 June 2016 - 07:13 PM.

  • 08 June 2016 - 07:11 PM
    BenTong

    Agree on the brakes part. Quite responsive to the pedal. So much that I have to keep reminding my wife not to step so hard at the lights...or else my dinner all come out.
    Never consider customised 3M mats? Comfortable to step on, lasting and easy to maintain. Dirt and sand will just 'disappear' by sinking into the mesh. To clean,just give it a few flips or rinse with water.

    WA... You naughty huh. Let ex gf drive your Forester.. Tsk tsk tsk
  • 08 June 2016 - 07:41 PM
    Tohto

    Just collected FXT today. Notice the mats are carpet type. Where to get rubber mats....preferably sized to the FXT?


    Ask from your SE.
  • 08 June 2016 - 10:50 PM
    jedi2804

    attended XT owner workshop last week. surprisingly, the trainer claimed S mode in high-way will have better petrol consumption, in addition, �there is no different using 95 or 98 petrol. he personnel recommend to use 95.


  • 08 June 2016 - 11:02 PM
    Iluvchoco
    Thank you all guys for the advise. After feeling the break for the first time yesterday, have been keeping distance from the front car. After one day driving, seems the FC is quite ok, around 9-10/100km, while can get up to 6/100km on high way at moderate speed. Quite satisfied. Will keep monitoring in the future.
  • 09 June 2016 - 04:54 AM
    mrhan1982

    Thank you all guys for the advise. After feeling the break for the first time yesterday, have been keeping distance from the front car. After one day driving, seems the FC is quite ok, around 9-10/100km, while can get up to 6/100km on high way at moderate speed. Quite satisfied. Will keep monitoring in the future.

    After 2 tanks (~52L each) of esso 8000, I'm getting 8.6L/100km (11.6km/L) on avg for each tank on my fxt. Always on i mode, in mixed driving 60hw 40city.
  • 09 June 2016 - 07:44 AM
    Icecube187

    Just collected FXT today. Notice the mats are carpet type. Where to get rubber mats....preferably sized to the FXT?

    Facebook mad about mats, Ivan.

    I got my mats from him.... cheap and good.


  • 09 June 2016 - 02:20 PM
    Codling
    Anyone can share what are gauges is displayed on the multifunction display?
  • 09 June 2016 - 03:32 PM
    Icecube187

    Anyone can share what are gauges is displayed on the multifunction display?

    For NA, if I remember correctly: engine oil temp, throttle position, single trip distance, instantaneous trip fuel consumption, remaining fuel distance.


  • 09 June 2016 - 03:46 PM
    MQX87511

    wah! COE shoot up so much, Subaru cars price no increasing,

    good dealer :a-m1212:


  • 09 June 2016 - 03:54 PM
    Swaku

    wah! COE shoot up so much, Subaru cars price no increasing,
    good dealer :a-m1212:

    I think they have not updated the price yet. Usually will be on Fri or latest by Sat.
  • 09 June 2016 - 04:23 PM
    Codling

    For NA, if I remember correctly: engine oil temp, throttle position, single trip distance, instantaneous trip fuel consumption, remaining fuel distance.

    Thanks!
    Anyone with the xt version?
  • 09 June 2016 - 05:01 PM
    Rachdanom

    wah! COE shoot up so much, Subaru cars price no increasing,
    good dealer :a-m1212:

    They just do away with the promo lor and give list -2k or something like that from list price, so buyer still thinks he got a discount.
  • 09 June 2016 - 05:17 PM
    mrhan1982
    Did my 1k servicing this morning at tpy. They use shell helix 5w40 mineral oil. Also did the auto fold for $150 (offset $100 using my duo points). Don't u guys think 5w40 is too thick for forester? Manual put 5w30 or 20. Maybe I bring my own engine oil when changing to full synthetic at 10k.
  • 09 June 2016 - 05:25 PM
    SUV-Lover

    I think they have not updated the price yet. Usually will be on Fri or latest by Sat.

    Hope no price increase after this latest round of COE rocketing up.�

    Hope to make my decision this weekend to sign. My CO approval required.� :a-bang:


  • 09 June 2016 - 05:31 PM
    MQX87511

    Hope no price increase after this latest round of COE rocketing up.�

    Hope to make my decision this weekend to sign. My CO approval required.� :a-bang:

    FNA or FXT? CO approval or not

    quickly it still promo period, 2k less than list price :D


  • 09 June 2016 - 05:46 PM
    SUV-Lover

    FNA or FXT? CO approval or not

    quickly it still promo period, 2k less than list price :D

    I like FXT, She wants Outback.�

    Of course I am head of the household, and I decides, but she is the neck that turns the decision.....

    :a-m1524:


  • 09 June 2016 - 06:20 PM
    swong19

    Did my 1k servicing this morning at tpy. They use shell helix 5w40 mineral oil. Also did the auto fold for $150 (offset $100 using my duo points). Don't u guys think 5w40 is too thick for forester? Manual put 5w30 or 20. Maybe I bring my own engine oil when changing to full synthetic at 10k.

    Wah first 2 times use mineral oil? Is it to run in the engine or to cut cost? Ya i thought modern subaru engine all run on 5W-30?


  • 09 June 2016 - 06:33 PM
    Jamesgetz

    Wah first 2 times use mineral oil? Is it to run in the engine or to cut cost? Ya i thought modern subaru engine all run on 5W-30?

    It's for running in of the engine, that's y the oil change interval is so short.

    I didn't know they used mineral oil.� FC will likely�get better after 10K mileage when the engine is run in and using synthetic oil.


    Did my 1k servicing this morning at tpy. They use shell helix 5w40 mineral oil. Also did the auto fold for $150 (offset $100 using my duo points). Don't u guys think 5w40 is too thick for forester? Manual put 5w30 or 20. Maybe I bring my own engine oil when changing to full synthetic at 10k.

    I don't think they will allow you to use your own engine oil or any other parts�even if it's the same as what they use.� furthermore, MI is known to be super strict on warranty matters.

    this is to avoid any disputes when it comes to warranty/repair claims... try putting yourself in their shoes and you will understand


  • 09 June 2016 - 06:38 PM
    mrhan1982

    It's for running in of the engine, that's y the oil change interval is so short.
    I didn't know they used mineral oil. FC will likely get better after 10K mileage when the engine is run in and using synthetic oil.


    I don't think they will allow you to use your own engine oil or any other parts even if it's the same as what they use. furthermore, MI is known to be super strict on warranty matters.
    this is to avoid any disputes when it comes to warranty/repair claims... try putting yourself in their shoes and you will understand

    I've checked with them. For 1k and 5k using mineral oil. After which is synthetic. Can bring own oil but they wun refund money for oil. They even offer motul oil of u TOP up. If the top up is reasonable maybe I will take their motul oil.

    At 1k plus km, I already getting 11+ km/L, if it can improve after changing to fully synthetic, that will be great!

    Edited by mrhan1982, 09 June 2016 - 06:43 PM.

  • 09 June 2016 - 06:45 PM
    BenTong

    Wah first 2 times use mineral oil? Is it to run in the engine or to cut cost? Ya i thought modern subaru engine all run on 5W-30?

    When u hit 10km oil change from mineral to synthetic there will be switchover charge.
  • 09 June 2016 - 07:42 PM
    Jamesgetz

    I've checked with them. For 1k and 5k using mineral oil. After which is synthetic. Can bring own oil but they wun refund money for oil. They even offer motul oil of u TOP up. If the top up is reasonable maybe I will take their motul oil.

    At 1k plus km, I already getting 11+ km/L, if it can improve after changing to fully synthetic, that will be great!


    Oic. Tks for the info! I'm surprised they allow people to bring their own oil
  • 09 June 2016 - 09:59 PM
    JuzFXT
    Hi just wanna check what is the average bid did u guys get? What will happen if more than 6 bid?
  • 09 June 2016 - 10:34 PM
    Muser

    I've checked with them. For 1k and 5k using mineral oil. After which is synthetic. Can bring own oil but they wun refund money for oil. They even offer motul oil of u TOP up. If the top up is reasonable maybe I will take their motul oil.

    At 1k plus km, I already getting 11+ km/L, if it can improve after changing to fully synthetic, that will be great!

    This is news to me. SA told me they only have Shell Helix 5W30 and 5W40, but didn't tell me it was mineral (I assumed it was synthetic), and didn't mention the Motul upgrade. Also told me I wasn't allowed to bring my own oil or warranty void. Who's your SA, please?

    My 1k servicing for my Legacy is this coming Tuesday at Tpy and I want synthetic, and am happy to pay for it. Now to persuade MI to please take my money. What a strange situation.
  • 09 June 2016 - 10:48 PM
    Iluvchoco

    Did my 1k servicing this morning at tpy. They use shell helix 5w40 mineral oil. Also did the auto fold for $150 (offset $100 using my duo points). Don't u guys think 5w40 is too thick for forester? Manual put 5w30 or 20. Maybe I bring my own engine oil when changing to full synthetic at 10k.

    How long for the 1k servicing bro?
  • 09 June 2016 - 11:47 PM
    Vyeron

    I like FXT, She wants Outback.�

    Of course I am head of the household, and I decides, but she is the neck that turns the decision.....

    :a-m1524:

    I can feel you bro, been there...what i adopt was happy wife, happy family� :a-happy:


  • 09 June 2016 - 11:52 PM
    mrhan1982

    This is news to me. SA told me they only have Shell Helix 5W30 and 5W40, but didn't tell me it was mineral (I assumed it was synthetic), and didn't mention the Motul upgrade. Also told me I wasn't allowed to bring my own oil or warranty void. Who's your SA, please?

    My 1k servicing for my Legacy is this coming Tuesday at Tpy and I want synthetic, and am happy to pay for it. Now to persuade MI to please take my money. What a strange situation.

    I collected after 1k and saw the receipt printed shell helix 5w40 synthetic and I ask the sa(Jeffrey) did they use fully synthetic for 1k. He said no. 1k and 5k use mineral. Ignore wat they print. Lol. See the leaflet on servicing packages. It says can bring engine oil but no refund for oil. Below fine print also say can top up for motul dunno wat oil and motul MIRT.

    Btw, forester xt change oil used up 5.1L.
    If we bring our own oil need to buy 6 small bottles since 1 bottle is 1 quart which is 900+ ml. Assuming 1 bottle is $16, then $96 for 6 bottles. If they ask for $150 or more TOP up then I rather bring my own oil. Those big bottle (5quart) is even slightly cheaper.
  • 09 June 2016 - 11:53 PM
    Slowcat

    This is news to me. SA told me they only have Shell Helix 5W30 and 5W40, but didn't tell me it was mineral (I assumed it was synthetic), and didn't mention the Motul upgrade. Also told me I wasn't allowed to bring my own oil or warranty void. Who's your SA, please?

    My 1k servicing for my Legacy is this coming Tuesday at Tpy and I want synthetic, and am happy to pay for it. Now to persuade MI to please take my money. What a strange situation.

    When I brought my car for 1k servicing, I never tell them what oil to use.

    They used Synthetic on their own accord. Just on Monday.
  • 09 June 2016 - 11:54 PM
    mrhan1982

    How long for the 1k servicing bro?

    745am go in, 2pm done. Coz I ask them do auto fold mirrors, wheel alignment (mine tend to go left a bit which was common prob) and fix up rear seat back leather cover ( a bit crumpled see Liao not happy so ask them fix)

    Oh ya. The awd wheel alignment they got give me report. Before and after measurements showed that indeed the car is off centre, and bias to left about 1-2 degrees. They adjusted and report showed ok. I drove back and car was centralised Liao. Very good.

    Edited by mrhan1982, 09 June 2016 - 11:56 PM.

  • 09 June 2016 - 11:55 PM
    Quantum

    I like FXT, She wants Outback.

    Of course I am head of the household, and I decides, but she is the neck that turns the decision.....

    :a-m1524:

    Ok lah, outback also not bad, important is Wife happy, you happy :)(:
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