mycarforum: 2015 Forester 2.0 part 43

Collected my FNA last week and did 1st servicing today from 8am to 1130am, was done with the oil, oil filter and gasket change plus installing the auto close wing mirror. Anyone know if it's possible to install door auto lock when driving above 20km/Hr?

Pumping SPC 95 since day 1 fuel economy increasing from first day from 10/100km (10km/L) to 8.5L/100km (11.7km/L) Maybe with the syntactic oil change at 10k km would help with FC

Facebook mad about mats, Ivan.

I got my mats from him.... cheap and good.

How much? Include cargo boot?

I can feel you bro, been there...what i adopt was happy wife, happy family

I also say. Happy wife, happy life.

When I brought my car for 1k servicing, I never tell them what oil to use.

They used Synthetic on their own accord. Just on Monday.

This is getting really confusing.

I collected after 1k and saw the receipt printed shell helix 5w40 synthetic and I ask the sa(Jeffrey) did they use fully synthetic for 1k. He said no. 1k and 5k use mineral. Ignore wat they print. Lol. See the leaflet on servicing packages. It says can bring engine oil but no refund for oil. Below fine print also say can top up for motul dunno wat oil and motul MIRT.

Btw, forester xt change oil used up 5.1L.
If we bring our own oil need to buy 6 small bottles since 1 bottle is 1 quart which is 900+ ml. Assuming 1 bottle is $16, then $96 for 6 bottles. If they ask for $150 or more TOP up then I rather bring my own oil. Those big bottle (5quart) is even slightly cheaper.

How to have confidence in what oil is actually inside our cars when we can't even trust what's on the receipts they print for us? A bit nonsense, right? Anyway, I think I want to look for this Jeffrey since he seems to know what's going on.

Any FXT owners getting rid of your stock rims and tyre?

They just do away with the promo lor and give list -2k or something like that from list price, so buyer still thinks he got a discount.

Price last weekend (5-jun) for FNA was $114,800.
Less total $8,000 discount, selling price $106,800.
Discount comprising:
$2000 trade in
$2000 8 bids coe
$2000 existing stock
$2000 model discount

Price last weekend (5-jun) for FNA was $114,800.
Less total $8,000 discount, selling price $106,800.
Discount comprising:
$2000 trade in
$2000 8 bids coe
$2000 existing stock
$2000 model discount

Same price as mine Leh bro... and was told it was special price, haha... anyway.. happy to take the poison

Any FXT owners getting rid of your stock rims and tyre?

u taking them in?

Price last weekend (5-jun) for FNA was $114,800.
Less total $8,000 discount, selling price $106,800.
Discount comprising:
$2000 trade in
$2000 8 bids coe
$2000 existing stock
$2000 model discount

MI Subaru price pretty stable over last 4 months or so where COE hover arund 40k to 50k ...Feels like their premium/profit buffer is about 10k or more before they change price noticeably.

Anyway, driving for 1st day yesterday and careful not to overrev beyond 3k rpm, the interior was so quiet my wife at one time thought the engine was off...maybe compard to my old Mit Lancer haha. FXT here.

Edited by Rachdanom, 10 June 2016 - 08:20 AM.

I collected after 1k and saw the receipt printed shell helix 5w40 synthetic and I ask the sa(Jeffrey) did they use fully synthetic for 1k. He said no. 1k and 5k use mineral. Ignore wat they print. Lol. See the leaflet on servicing packages. It says can bring engine oil but no refund for oil. Below fine print also say can top up for motul dunno wat oil and motul MIRT.

Btw, forester xt change oil used up 5.1L.
If we bring our own oil need to buy 6 small bottles since 1 bottle is 1 quart which is 900+ ml. Assuming 1 bottle is $16, then $96 for 6 bottles. If they ask for $150 or more TOP up then I rather bring my own oil. Those big bottle (5quart) is even slightly cheaper.

Better pass the mechanic 5 q bottle. Some leftover at oil sump area. If they pour all 6 bottles in become overfill.

Then next morning if not enough, then pour portion of the 6 bottle in yourself.

Yesterday at around 6.30pm overcast day but still got plenty of sunlight, the AUTO headlamps came on. I was following a slow motorbike (engine run in) and he thought i highbeamed him... LOL

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I see the US manual and it mentioned a light sensitivity setting but i can't find it in my Forester. Probably need to bring in to MI to setup.�

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I also say. Happy wife, happy life.
This is getting really confusing.
How to have confidence in what oil is actually inside our cars when we can't even trust what's on the receipts they print for us? A bit nonsense, right? Anyway, I think I want to look for this Jeffrey since he seems to know what's going on.

lol. I think that Jeffrey a bit blur one. but quite polite la. I think they put in 5w40 shell helix ultra synthetic la. Run-in period for forester is 1000 miles (roughly 1600km) They probably got tons of shell helix and dun mind putting this in after 1k. Save the trouble of stocking up mineral oil. maybe at 5k i will top up for their Motul oil.

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Btw, i just realized i got 2 paint chips caused by flying stones on my bonnet ;( That day heard some loud spiak sound now i know what damage it did to my car...

I called MI and they say they will do touch up for me but at a small cost. However, my paint color now no stock, next week then come in. hiaz.. Flying stones no joke, PPS also can't prevent.

lol. I think that Jeffrey a bit blur one. but quite polite la. I think they put in 5w40 shell helix ultra synthetic la. Run-in period for forester is 1000 miles (roughly 1600km) They probably got tons of shell helix and dun mind putting this in after 1k. Save the trouble of stocking up mineral oil. maybe at 5k i will top up for their Motul oil.

Btw, i just realized i got 2 paint chips caused by flying stones on my bonnet ;( That day heard some loud spiak sound now i know what damage it did to my car...
I called MI and they say they will do touch up for me but at a small cost. However, my paint color now no stock, next week then come in. hiaz.. Flying stones no joke, PPS also can't prevent.

Time to look for stone deflector to fit at bonnet.

I had my Outback in for 1k and 5k Services this year. Both receipts printed Shell Helix Ultra 5W-30 Synthetic. Are you guys saying in reality, I got scammed to have mineral oil instead?�

MI Subaru price pretty stable over last 4 months or so where COE hover arund 40k to 50k ...Feels like their premium/profit buffer is about 10k or more before they change price noticeably.

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MI prices just went up by $6k across the board: www.subaru.asia/sg/media/buying/info/pricelist.pdf?id=644d3

Yesterday at around 6.30pm overcast day but still got plenty of sunlight, the AUTO headlamps came on. I was following a slow motorbike (engine run in) and he thought i highbeamed him... LOL

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I see the US manual and it mentioned a light sensitivity setting but i can't find it in my Forester. Probably need to bring in to MI to setup.�

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Anyone else felt that the AUTO headlamps are too sensitive? Probably a LOW setting will be good.�

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I don't know about the Forester, but the Legacy and Outback auto headlamp sensitivity can be adjusted by owners for US models, but must be adjusted by MI for SG models because our in-car settings computer doesn't have the same options as US variants.

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Auto headlamp sensitivity is a matter of personal judgement. I actually don't find them sensitive enough, so I'm going to ask MI to max out the sensitivity for me.

lol. I think that Jeffrey a bit blur one. but quite polite la. I think they put in 5w40 shell helix ultra synthetic la. Run-in period for forester is 1000 miles (roughly 1600km) They probably got tons of shell helix and dun mind putting this in after 1k. Save the trouble of stocking up mineral oil. maybe at 5k i will top up for their Motul oil.

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Btw, i just realized i got 2 paint chips caused by flying stones on my bonnet ;( That day heard some loud spiak sound now i know what damage it did to my car...

I called MI and they say they will do touch up for me but at a small cost. However, my paint color now no stock, next week then come in. hiaz.. Flying stones no joke, PPS also can't prevent.

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Hah? Blur then I dowan already, thank you very much. I don't need polite (though it's nice to have), I need si bei zai. The SA I spoke to over the phone, Jason, also didn't seem very sure exactly what sort of oil our cars come with upon delivery, and my SE could only tell me that "heavier" oil was put in for the break-in period, whatever that means (I sure hope it doesn't mean 5W40).

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If you go by the manual, Outback and Legacy run-in is also officially 1,000 miles or 1,600km, but if MI wants to change my oil earlier, I'm only too happy to let them... as long as they use the right oil, for goodness sake. I'm definitely going to try my best to get them to let me top up for Motul or MIRT oil, if they refuse to let me bring my own. See how.

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True, PPS may not protect against chips, but still better than no protection at all mah.

I had my Outback in for 1k and 5k Services this year. Both receipts printed Shell Helix Ultra 5W-30 Synthetic. Are you guys saying in reality, I got scammed to have mineral oil instead?�

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I'd really like to know the answer to this too.

After driving for 100km after my 1k service, i do feel my FXT is a bit heavier and response is slightly slower. Think the shell 5w40 oil sux... But i heard it has good protection. Anyway, will surely change to better w30 oil when doing 5k.

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I also noticed that they pump 230kpa for all 4 tires. This seems to be the sweet spot between comfort and handling.

Edited by mrhan1982, 10 June 2016 - 11:29 AM.

anyone has this in your forester?

How to 'trigger' this?

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Yesterday at around 6.30pm overcast day but still got plenty of sunlight, the AUTO headlamps came on. I was following a slow motorbike (engine run in) and he thought i highbeamed him... LOL

I see the US manual and it mentioned a light sensitivity setting but i can't find it in my Forester. Probably need to bring in to MI to setup.

Anyone else felt that the AUTO headlamps are too sensitive? Probably a LOW setting will be good.

Ya I find a bit impractical. Even go under a bridge, under the shadow the lights flashed on then off in a second.

anyone has this in your forester?

How to 'trigger' this?

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Hold your front windshield mist spray for more than 2 seconds. The headlamp washers will pop out to wash your headlamps too.�

Hold your front windshield mist spray for more than 2 seconds. The headlamp washers will pop out to wash your headlamps too.�

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hahaha...must ask my wife to see whether it works. Thanks.

This is news to me. SA told me they only have Shell Helix 5W30 and 5W40, but didn't tell me it was mineral (I assumed it was synthetic), and didn't mention the Motul upgrade. Also told me I wasn't allowed to bring my own oil or warranty void. Who's your SA, please?

My 1k servicing for my Legacy is this coming Tuesday at Tpy and I want synthetic, and am happy to pay for it. Now to persuade MI to please take my money. What a strange situation.

Synthetic oil lah..
This was my 1k servicing. You need to request and insist on 5W30 if you want it. If not they will use 5W40.

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After driving for 100km after my 1k service, i do feel my FXT is a bit heavier and response is slightly slower. Think the shell 5w40 oil sux... But i heard it has good protection. Anyway, will surely change to better w30 oil when doing 5k.

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I also noticed that they pump 230kpa for all 4 tires. This seems to be the sweet spot between comfort and handling.

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Heavier oil doesn't necessarily mean more protection leh. My understand is that the second number (40) refers to viscosity of engine oil (not coolant, which is what our gauges measure, and which doesn't always correspond to engine oil temp) at full operating temp, while the first number (5) refers to viscosity when starting cold. In short city commutes, many of us won't even reach full operating temp, so what matters more is the cold-start viscosity. Which is why if forced to choose only between 5W30 and 5W40, I'd choose 5W30, no need to think. And what I really want is 0W20 recommended by the Legacy/Outback manual, precisely for the cold-start protection.

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230kpa all round, eh? Bro, what does your door sill/manual officially recommend ah? Just curious.

Ya I find a bit impractical. Even go under a bridge, under the shadow the lights flashed on then off in a second.

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My problem is when entering a covered carpark, my lowbeams don't come on fast enough, and it's at the carpark entrance that I need them the most. Eg, Income carpark entrance is a blind corner. I need the lights on immediately so that the oncoming cars will know to please wait and let me get in first, otherwise both kena stuck then must reverse, dance around, etc.

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Btw, i just realized i got 2 paint chips caused by flying stones on my bonnet ;( That day heard some loud spiak sound now i know what damage it did to my car...

I called MI and they say they will do touch up for me but at a small cost. However, my paint color now no stock, next week then come in. hiaz.. Flying stones no joke, PPS also can't prevent.

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there's a thick clear sticker that can be used as stonechip guard on bonnet, front bumper, side mirrors etc.

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mine turned slightly yellow after a few years. Very obvious on white/light coloured cars. Not so obvious on dark colours

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my current bonnet swee swee, no stone chips. But kena many stone chips on front grill and windscreen LOL

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my previous�forester had many many chips on the front bonnet thus decided to get the film on my current car.

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if i'm not wrong, the film is from Oracle, but i'm sure there are other brands available.

Synthetic oil lah..
This was my 1k servicing. You need to request and insist on 5W30 if you want it. If not they will use 5W40.

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Thanks, this is extremely useful! [thumbsup] ��Much appreciated. I take it you're driving a Forester? I'll definitely be super cheong hei and insist on 5W30 then, assuming they don't let me bring my own 0W20 or 5W20.

u taking them in?

Given the rate my tyres get puncture, I am thinking to buy tyres to stock up, maybe even 1 of the rim to change out the spare to a full size if possible.

Given the rate my tyres get puncture, I am thinking to buy tyres to stock up, maybe even 1 of the rim to change out the spare to a full size if possible.

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full size spare is a good idea

lol. I think that Jeffrey a bit blur one. but quite polite la. I think they put in 5w40 shell helix ultra synthetic la. Run-in period for forester is 1000 miles (roughly 1600km) They probably got tons of shell helix and dun mind putting this in after 1k. Save the trouble of stocking up mineral oil. maybe at 5k i will top up for their Motul oil.

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Btw, i just realized i got 2 paint chips caused by flying stones on my bonnet ;( That day heard some loud spiak sound now i know what damage it did to my car...

I called MI and they say they will do touch up for me but at a small cost. However, my paint color now no stock, next week then come in. hiaz.. Flying stones no joke, PPS also can't prevent.

�3M clear bra brah!

Thanks, this is extremely useful! Much appreciated. I take it you're driving a Forester? I'll definitely be super cheong hei and insist on 5W30 then, assuming they don't let me bring my own 0W20 or 5W20.

I am driving the XT.

I am driving the XT.

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In that case, congrats on getting MI to use the oil explicitly recommended in the Forester owner's manual (5W30 synthetic). It's more challenging for Legacy and Outback owners, since our manuals explicitly recommend 0W20, which I acknowledge is less widely available.

Heavier oil doesn't necessarily mean more protection leh. My understand is that the second number (40) refers to viscosity of engine oil (not coolant, which is what our gauges measure, and which doesn't always correspond to engine oil temp) at full operating temp, while the first number (5) refers to viscosity when starting cold. In short city commutes, many of us won't even reach full operating temp, so what matters more is the cold-start viscosity. Which is why if forced to choose only between 5W30 and 5W40, I'd choose 5W30, no need to think. And what I really want is 0W20 recommended by the Legacy/Outback manual, precisely for the cold-start protection.

230kpa all round, eh? Bro, what does your door sill/manual officially recommend ah? Just curious.

My problem is when entering a covered carpark, my lowbeams don't come on fast enough, and it's at the carpark entrance that I need them the most. Eg, Income carpark entrance is a blind corner. I need the lights on immediately so that the oncoming cars will know to please wait and let me get in first, otherwise both kena stuck then must reverse, dance around, etc.

My door says 230/220 front/rear. Quite Low for 18 inch. Think they lazy so just pump 230 all round. Personally I will pump 240/230.

My door says 230/220 front/rear. Quite Low for 18 inch. Think they lazy so just pump 230 all round. Personally I will pump 240/230.

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That's what my Legacy door says too. I usually pump 250/240 just to compensate for heat and leakage, but will try 240/230 afterwards.

My door says 230/220 front/rear. Quite Low for 18 inch. Think they lazy so just pump 230 all round. Personally I will pump 240/230.

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My ke kiang lah.

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What's stock tyre load index?
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That's what my Legacy door says too. I usually pump 250/240 just to compensate for heat and leakage, but will try 240/230 afterwards.

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I have Slime tyre repair kit in my car.� So, no need compensate for heat.

My understanding from new owner workshop is that 5W40 is used on FXT in Singapore because of (a) our hot, now even hotter, weather, not like US; and (b) it addresses an issue with the engine burning up oil - there are forum threads about how the FXT needs top up before it is due for servicing. I used lighter oil in my previous drive, but I think I'll just stick to what MI wants to put in it. They use the 5W30 for FNA.

For auto light sensitivity, the default factory setting it is at max sensitivity. Same as sensor for wiper. If you want them less sensitive, you can ask MI to adjust during servicing. However, when the battery is changed (or disconnected), it will all reset to factory default.

BTW, noticedt the Blackvue had stopped recording a while back. Looks like firmware got corrupted. Working now after firmware update. Recommend to check on it regularly.

Yes, my blackvue GPS also stopped working (no light) and MI replaced w a new set.
For sharing : during my 1k KM NA servicing, MI LK used shell helix ultra 5W-30 synthetic. Qty: 4.80L.

Any other NA used diff oil?

Yes, my blackvue GPS also stopped working (no light) and MI replaced w a new set.
For sharing : during my 1k KM NA servicing, MI LK used shell helix ultra 5W-30 synthetic. Qty: 4.80L.

Any other NA used diff oil?

Sama sama mi toa payoh.
5-30 syn

Synthetic oil lah..
This was my 1k servicing. You need to request and insist on 5W30 if you want it. If not they will use 5W40.

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really dunno what's the fuss you guys are worried about regarding mineral oil.

it's not as if it will damage engines, else they won't be around right?

MI has been doing so since I got my car 7years ago, standard routine first 2 servicing will be mineral oils.

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if I remember correctly, even some trackies also use mineral oils during the period when they don't go to track, cos they change oil so often (before and after track session), dun want to waste the money on synthetic.

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if mineral oil can really damage engine, mine won't last > 160k km.

just do your servicing on time at 10k intervals later and dun try and skimp beyond 10k.

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and pls... no need to waste $ to go to MOTUL lah... not as if you are tracking the Forester...

save the $ and eat better...

really dunno what's the fuss you guys are worried about regarding mineral oil.
it's not as if it will damage engines, else they won't be around right?
MI has been doing so since I got my car 7years ago, standard routine first 2 servicing will be mineral oils.

if I remember correctly, even some trackies also use mineral oils during the period when they don't go to track, cos they change oil so often (before and after track session), dun want to waste the money on synthetic.

if mineral oil can really damage engine, mine won't last > 160k km.
just do your servicing on time at 10k intervals later and dun try and skimp beyond 10k.

and pls... no need to waste $ to go to MOTUL lah... not as if you are tracking the Forester...
save the $ and eat better...

Motul are meant for high performance. Very good oil. But question one need to ask what is high performance? We drive 50km/hr most of the time(jam so bad nowadays esp on expressways). And once in a while press accelerator.. Don't think that can be considered any where near high performance. Will it protect the engine more than another synthetic oil? Don't think so la.. So agree with your comment bro!! Use the $$$ buy family nice dinners better

really dunno what's the fuss you guys are worried about regarding mineral oil.
it's not as if it will damage engines, else they won't be around right?
MI has been doing so since I got my car 7years ago, standard routine first 2 servicing will be mineral oils.

if I remember correctly, even some trackies also use mineral oils during the period when they don't go to track, cos they change oil so often (before and after track session), dun want to waste the money on synthetic.

if mineral oil can really damage engine, mine won't last > 160k km.
just do your servicing on time at 10k intervals later and dun try and skimp beyond 10k.

and pls... no need to waste $ to go to MOTUL lah... not as if you are tracking the Forester...
save the $ and eat better...

No fuss no fuss.
I have used schnell and carlube before and it works fine. But on the imprezza.

But if mi receipt shows that it is using synthetic oil but in fact not using synthetic, then should fuss.

If given a choice to use synthetic oil (more exp) than mineral oil, why not? When it is free. I got more value.

So 1st 3 free servicing, can squeeze why not? Not need to help them save $.

really dunno what's the fuss you guys are worried about regarding mineral oil.
it's not as if it will damage engines, else they won't be around right?
MI has been doing so since I got my car 7years ago, standard routine first 2 servicing will be mineral oils.

if I remember correctly, even some trackies also use mineral oils during the period when they don't go to track, cos they change oil so often (before and after track session), dun want to waste the money on synthetic.

if mineral oil can really damage engine, mine won't last > 160k km.
just do your servicing on time at 10k intervals later and dun try and skimp beyond 10k.

and pls... no need to waste $ to go to MOTUL lah... not as if you are tracking the Forester...
save the $ and eat better...

Nowadays no need mineral oil to run in already for modern engine. Some of the conti brand 1st servicing is at 15,000km.

And MI are providing the 1st 3 servicing. So if they are to use the cheap mineral oil for free service, that is really too much.

For me I will definitely bring my own oil after 3 servicing. Because I don't like Shell oil.

Edited by Tohto, 10 June 2016 - 10:32 PM.

My ke kiang lah.

What's stock tyre load index?

I have Slime tyre repair kit in my car. So, no need compensate for heat.

What I meant was that since my stock tyres are pumped with air (I'll do nitrogen on my next set, like my old car), and the petrol station I pump my tyres at is a few hundred metres from my office, I pump slightly higher pressure to compensate for slightly warmed up tyres - aiming for slightly above recommended cold tyre pressure. Also, even though my tyre valves are new, some air will still leak, so pumping a bit more ensures I never fall below recommended pressure. Nothing to do with repair kits or spare tyres what.

really dunno what's the fuss you guys are worried about regarding mineral oil.
it's not as if it will damage engines, else they won't be around right?
MI has been doing so since I got my car 7years ago, standard routine first 2 servicing will be mineral oils.

if I remember correctly, even some trackies also use mineral oils during the period when they don't go to track, cos they change oil so often (before and after track session), dun want to waste the money on synthetic.

if mineral oil can really damage engine, mine won't last > 160k km.
just do your servicing on time at 10k intervals later and dun try and skimp beyond 10k.

and pls... no need to waste $ to go to MOTUL lah... not as if you are tracking the Forester...
save the $ and eat better...

Not fussing for the sake of fussing. Just that:
- If receipt says synthetic, jolly well give me synthetic.
- If the manual you gave me recommends a certain grade synthetic, then give me that, otherwise give me manual for what?
- Dino oil shears, synthetic doesn't, and I like to know that my 0W20 will stay 0W20 till I change it instead of shearing to, say, 5W10. Cuz I'm ngiao like that, and satisfying my ngiaoness makes me feel good.
- Nobody said dino oil will kill your engine, but that's not the point what.

No fuss no fuss.
I have used schnell and carlube before and it works fine. But on the imprezza.

But if mi receipt shows that it is using synthetic oil but in fact not using synthetic, then should fuss.

If given a choice to use synthetic oil (more exp) than mineral oil, why not? When it is free. I got more value.

So 1st 3 free servicing, can squeeze why not? Not need to help them save $.

Yup, and yup, and yup.

Motul are meant for high performance. Very good oil. But question one need to ask what is high performance? We drive 50km/hr most of the time(jam so bad nowadays esp on expressways). And once in a while press accelerator.. Don't think that can be considered any where near high performance. Will it protect the engine more than another synthetic oil? Don't think so la.. So agree with your comment bro!! Use the $$$ buy family nice dinners better

Actually, Motul also makes everyday oil, and that's what MI is offering - not the expensive 300v stuff. And also, definition of harsh driving conditions is:
- start-stop driving
- short trips
- frequent cold starts

That characterises Singapore city driving perfectly. Our driving conditions are harsher on engines and oil than highway-heavy driving in the US, etc. It's not about racing or taking your car to the track.

Edited by Muser, 10 June 2016 - 10:49 PM.

Not fussing for the sake of fussing. Just that:
- If receipt says synthetic, jolly well give me synthetic.
- If the manual you gave me recommends a certain grade synthetic, then give me that, otherwise give me manual for what?
- Dino oil shears, synthetic doesn't, and I like to know that my 0W20 will stay 0W20 till I change it instead of shearing to, say, 5W10. Cuz I'm ngiao like that, and satisfying my ngiaoness makes me feel good.
- Nobody said dino oil will kill your engine, but that's not the point what.
Yup, and yup, and yup.
Actually, Motul also makes everyday oil, and that's what MI is offering - not the expensive 300v stuff. And also, definition of harsh driving conditions is:
- start-stop driving
- short trips
- frequent cold starts

That characterises Singapore city driving perfectly. Our driving conditions are harsher on engines and oil than highway-heavy driving in the US, etc. It's not about racing or taking your car to the track.

Tried Motul.. Ok la nice la.. But rather spend on food and foot massage

Do let us know if you have better luck. I'm OCD about audio file metadata too, and haven't really had a problem till now. On my Kia Cerato, sometimes certain characters wouldn�t show, but with the Fujitsu Ten OEM HU in my Legacy (same as the one in OB and FXT), titles and artists are completely blank unless there are numbers or English words. Infuriating.

I suspect MI asked for the Aussie spec HU to use for Spore.
Hence no support for Chinese.
By right can techinically resolve by updating the software to China version since MI also operate in China.
But I won't hold my breath for MI Spore to help in this.

Another solution is to buy a China original Subaru HU to fit here.

I suspect MI asked for the Aussie spec HU to use for Spore.
Hence no support for Chinese.
By right can techinically resolve by updating the software to China version since MI also operate in China.
But I won't hold my breath for MI Spore to help in this.

Another solution is to buy a China original Subaru HU to fit here.

You could be right.

Cost of replacing our HU with a Chinese version of the same OEM model would probably be the equivalent of getting a high-end Pioneer aftermarket HU with Carplay and Android Auto, though we'd lose the tight integration with voice commands and car systems, the clean aesthetics I like, and of course there are warranty issues. Sigh. Firmware flash sounds like a better idea. Dunno how viable though.

Me also... 8NG... SE suggest top up for 6G..

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How much SE ask you top up?�

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And SE keep saying ex-Stock then have discount, does it mean the car is already in sg or the car is on the way to sg.�

Me lah. SE bidded $50k. Asked me to wait next round. He doesn't sound happy. Maybe never kenna any. Boh commision.....

I think their strategy is like this:

Now that they marked up the prices of their cars, until they are sure of the profit margin and the number of orders, then they see if make sense to secure COEs for their customers the next round; depending on the trend of COEs.

So in the end those who paid lower car prices may end up with higher COEs and poor fellas who paid more may have lower value of COEs

Edited by Jaris32, 11 June 2016 - 06:25 PM.

Hi bros, some newbie questions -�

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3. Is there any way to display Chinese song titles on the HU?

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I have Chinese songs on my USB stick. �Titles displayed in Chinese ... follows the filenames.

I have Chinese songs on my USB stick. Titles displayed in Chinese ... follows the filenames.

Thanks, I'll try that! Assumed it wouldn't work either.

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Teach me master!!

Teach me master!!

No, take me as your disciple first, oh wise master! Still haven't tried with USB flash drive yet but it doesn't work with Apple Music, nor my own music manually copied to my iPhone. Maybe it's an iOS compatibility bug.

I like your music taste :)

Hi everyone, i have been following this thread which helped me to make my decision easier in booking the FXT last weekend. looking forward to get the ride soon. Would like to join the Fb group, can guide? Thanks!

Do you guys feels that the CVT takes a few seconds to engage into drive or reverse?

Do you guys feels that the CVT takes a few seconds to engage into drive or reverse?

Should not be many seconds.
Unless you are still rolling forward when you shift to reverse .
Then gear will wait for movement to fully stop first b4 the shift takes place .

Best to get it checked and compare to the test car .

What version of software do you have in the HU?
Suspect it is higher version.
Maybe we can ask MI to flash ours to that version.

Hi. Actually my file name of the mp3 already in chinese. So when I put in the USB it's just cut n paste.

Don't top up. You should able to get your COE. If your car stock is not here yet. They will only bid for you when it it almost here.
My car price was base on the $38k COE. 1ST 3 bid they did not bid high. 4th bid, car arrived the port. So they bid and revised the price till I sure get the COE.
My COE is $47k.

Thx bro. I also don't feel like taking that option. Mine is ex-stock but they still didn't bid high for me..

Should not be many seconds.
Unless you are still rolling forward when you shift to reverse .
Then gear will wait for movement to fully stop first b4 the shift takes place .

Best to get it checked and compare to the test car .

What version of software do you have in the HU?
Suspect it is higher version.
Maybe we can ask MI to flash ours to that version.

Normally happen when rolling reverse and trying to move forward to correct the parking angle. Everyone HU seems to be of different software version.

Can anyone share the Facebook group with me.

I think their strategy is like this:

Now that they marked up the prices of their cars, until they are sure of the profit margin and the number of orders, then they see if make sense to secure COEs for their customers the next round; depending on the trend of COEs.

So in the end those who paid lower car prices may end up with higher COEs and poor fellas who paid more may have lower value of COEs

Think so too!! To MI it's all about managing portfolio margins not individual car margin. Maybe only the SE will do that.. Get "their buyers" to TOP up from NG to G.. Just to make back the "freebies $$$" the buyer specifically ask for.. Esp those Super ngeow buyers usually kena the risk de prioritise by the SE (esp when in a rising COE scenario).

Is the side mirror auto fold really useful? There is already a button to fold the mirror in right?

I was hoping to have a gadget to auto lock the car when i press the brakes or drive off. LOL

You mean it doesn't? Even picanto had this function leh. How can rate so highly rated in term of safety don't have such function of auto locking when driving.

You mean it doesn't? Even picanto had this function leh. How can rate so highly rated in term of safety don't have such function of auto locking when driving.

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Auto locking will improve security rating.

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Auto unlocking after accident will improve safety

You mean it doesn't? Even picanto had this function leh. How can rate so highly rated in term of safety don't have such function of auto locking when driving.

When an a feature is included it also means it's included in the OMV which then attracts 100% or more ARF. Some wants it some don't see the need to have it. So not a bad idea to keep it as an add on option.

Don't think auto folding windows will add another star to the safety ratings of a car.

Auto locking will improve security rating.

Auto unlocking after accident will improve safety

Agree bro.. Does MI has this add on option?

There's an add on option at MI for auto locking of doors when driving off?

You mean it doesn't? Even picanto had this function leh. How can rate so highly rated in term of safety don't have such function of auto locking when driving.

Auto locking does not improve safety.
Car need to be able to auto unlock due to accident for safety. Most conti had this function.

When an a feature is included it also means it's included in the OMV which then attracts 100% or more ARF. Some wants it some don't see the need to have it. So not a bad idea to keep it as an add on option.

Don't think auto folding windows will add another star to the safety ratings of a car.
Agree bro.. Does MI has this add on option?

Agreed.
Paid as option no need to paid extra 100% due to OMV.

Auto locking does not improve safety.
Car need to be able to auto unlock due to accident for safety. Most conti had this function.
Agreed.
Paid as option no need to paid extra 100% due to OMV.

Agree bro.. Auto lock and unlocking not necessarily increase car security too. Know of one friend parked at car park. Auto unlock.. Then kena rob. Happened in PJ. Now he disabled his auto lock and unlock.. Better to manual control n check surroundings..

My previous conti ride had that feature and by the time I reached 8 years of ownership.. Spoil 4 times.. Think it's the solenoid..

Anyway just a matter of pressing 2 buttons.. Ok la..build finger muscle..

overseas. subaru's safety rating is so highly rated is precisely because of Eyesight.

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i see all the subaru reviews, all the reviewers all raving about eye sight.�

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in singapore. it's not even available as an option even if you're willing to pay.

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never understood this. oh well.

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Thats right, it doesn't auto fold. But i think its not really required since there is a button to close the mirrors right at my finger tips. Auto mirrors will not contribute to a car's safety rating la... LOL

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I would like to be able to lock the doors when i press my brakes actually...�

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auto fold is $150.

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drive off lock is $300 i think.

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check with your SE?

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Thats right, it doesn't auto fold. But i think its not really required since there is a button to close the mirrors right at my finger tips. Auto mirrors will not contribute to a car's safety rating la... LOL

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I would like to be able to lock the doors when i press my brakes actually...�

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overseas. subaru's safety rating is so highly rated is precisely because of Eyesight.

i see all the subaru reviews, all the reviewers all raving about eye sight.

in singapore. it's not even available as an option even if you're willing to pay.

never understood this. oh well.

auto fold is $150.

drive off lock is $300 i think.

check with your SE?

You book your car already??

price chiong. then wife tell me to hold back. lol

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arrghhh.

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don't remind me.... =(

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You book your car already??

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FXT price up by 6k to 133K as of today's MI webpage. Bookings gonna slow down for sure. Got to be patient then.

FXT price up by 6k to 133K as of today's MI webpage. Bookings gonna slow down for sure. Got to be patient then.

I think the price won't drop until they clear their backlog.

Have to be patient lor

wah! $300 for auto-lock on drive off... stupid question - anyone test their alarm system, does the FXT even come with one??

wah! $300 for auto-lock on drive off... stupid question - anyone test their alarm system, does the FXT even come with one??

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Singapore need alarm meh?
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MI and TC under same management right? one father one son iirc.

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can't find for subaru but nissan don't seem to have. that's why it's part of their optional accessory list.�

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so i assume subaru also don't have.

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wah! $300 for auto-lock on drive off... stupid question - anyone test their alarm system, does the FXT even come with one??

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Hi man, I have booked my Forester (non-turbo) late last month. Did not get my COE as well, as the SE bid really low. Mine is NG 8 bid. None, the SE did not ask me to top-up. Kind of worried that cannot get COE after 8 bid.

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The bidding should be consecutive, otherwise there is no ending, right?

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SE have absolutely no control over COE bidding. �It is done by a dedicated COE bidding team. �On the COE release day, you check LTA online website about the price MI bid for you, and you can be sure SE still has no clue what is the amount (especially if unsuccessful).

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Car dealers have played the COE game long enough to make money. �Even if one booked the car when COE was $38k and eventually got a $47k paper (gain), there are many more who lost to cover those who gain. �Some win, some lose, balance out. �

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Obviously one will be a little worry if opt for NG package, especially if COE is on the upward trend. �It a choice the buyer made, not MI. �But there were also cases for 8 NG who got it as first strike.

actually hor.

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given that the reason for the jump in coe prices was because of the change in financing rules.�

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given that the downpayment of the �currernt 40% of car price is as high or even higher than when it was 50% of car prices previously.

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i suspect that the car prices will drop eventually. once the backlog is cleared.

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can only wait and see�

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The bidding should be consecutive, otherwise there is no ending, right?

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SE have absolutely no control over COE bidding. �It is done by a dedicated COE bidding team. �On the COE release day, you check LTA online website about the price MI bid for you, and you can be sure SE still has no clue what is the amount (especially if unsuccessful).

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Car dealers have played the COE game long enough to make money. �Even if one booked the car when COE was $38k and eventually got a $47k paper (gain), there are many more who lost to cover those who gain. �Some win, some lose, balance out. �

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Obviously one will be a little worry if opt for NG package, especially if COE is on the upward trend. �It a choice the buyer made, not MI. �But there were also cases for 8 NG who got it as first strike.

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actually hor.

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given that the reason for the jump in coe prices was because of the change in financing rules.�

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given that the downpayment of the �currernt 40% of car price is as high or even higher than when it was 50% of car prices previously.

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i suspect that the car prices will drop eventually. once the backlog is cleared.

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can only wait and see�

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agreed.� 2 of my friends who bought their car right after the change in financing was becos they anticipated it would drive up car prices.��this group of�people�probably resulted in temp surge�in booking orders.�

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also, there were�3 weeks of booking before the recent COE round and usually such 3-wk periods results in higher COE pries.��

FXT now 133k

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huat ah

The promotion price is $129k

Hmm... You mentioned that these are the filenames.
I assume these songs are NOT ripped from CDs using Windows Media Player or things like that?
I suspect that as long as only filename is present, then it will use the filename as the default to display and that will work.
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If you rip from CD, then usually that will have meta-tags present and that will mess up the display because the meta-tags have to go thru a software in the HU called Gracenote and I suspect Gracenote can only handle English.� (Meta-tags are additional info present in the CD which when ripped will automatically be embedded in the music file - things like album name, artist name, song title etc).
If the meta-tag song title is present, then the HU will try to display the meta-tag using Gracenote, and fail if it is in Chinese language.
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If only music in the file without embedded meta-tags, then HU will display just the filename and bypass Gracenote.
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Will try it out over the next weekend to see if my theory is correct.

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I think your assumptions are more or less accurate, though I didn't manage to force my HU to use filenames for title display.

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I copied AAC music files with both Chinese and Japanese character file names to a USB flash drive.

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Title were still blank on the HU.

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I then used Windows 7 to strip the files of metadata (right-click, select Properties, Select All, remove), and tried again.

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Still blank on the HU.

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So, I think that:

- Our HUs could benefit from a firmware update, or

- I'm missing a way to more thoroughly strip my files of metadata in order to force the HU to default to the file names.

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On another note, perhaps a better workaround would be to find a way to update our Gracenote database, because I prefer to use my iPhone for playback instead of a USB flash drive. Anyone know where we can find an updated library, please? Because if we can, then uploading it looks like the easy bit:

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The promotion price is $129k

So after some discount I'd say final price around 127k la..

wah! $300 for auto-lock on drive off... stupid question - anyone test their alarm system, does the FXT even come with one??

Even luxury conti also don't equipped with alarm, why you need the alarm.
Most of the alarm are local fit or after market.

Even luxury conti also don't equipped with alarm, why you need the alarm.
Most of the alarm are local fit or after market.

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Let me add on for you.�

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When alarm sounds beep beep, how many ppl care?� Unless there are some strange horny making out sound.

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Very likely when alarm goes off, owner will not hear it.� That only can be solve with installation of 2 way alarm.� 2 way alarm got cheap & expensive 1 hor.�

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Cheap one like Steelmate from China could be few hundred dollars.

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Expensive one like Clifford or Cobra could be few thousand dollars with smart phone or watch integration somemore.

Judging by how active this thread is, is the forester going to be the 2nd vezel? :-p

I think your assumptions are more or less accurate, though I didn't manage to force my HU to use filenames for title display.

I copied AAC music files with both Chinese and Japanese character file names to a USB flash drive.

Title were still blank on the HU.

I then used Windows 7 to strip the files of metadata (right-click, select Properties, Select All, remove), and tried again.

Still blank on the HU.

So, I think that:
- Our HUs could benefit from a firmware update, or
- I'm missing a way to more thoroughly strip my files of metadata in order to force the HU to default to the file names.

On another note, perhaps a better workaround would be to find a way to update our Gracenote database, because I prefer to use my iPhone for playback instead of a USB flash drive. Anyone know where we can find an updated library, please? Because if we can, then uploading it looks like the easy bit:

subaru's response about grace note.

Thank you for contacting Subaru of America, Inc. We appreciate you taking time out of your day to contact us.

The Gracenote database is designed to be upgradeable by a Subaru retailer technician; this function is not designed for a customer to use.

Although we don't currently have an available Gracenote update for your 2015 Legacy, our engineers are looking into the possibility of offering this type of update in the near future.

Thanks for the opportunity to be of assistance.

Judging by how active this thread is, is the forester going to be the 2nd vezel? :-p

Yah I think I see more and more forester ??? on the road

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