Thứ Sáu, 30 tháng 12, 2016

2015 Forester 2.0 part 56

  • 05 September 2016 - 11:27 AM
    Davidtch

    Yes. So it seem like this car is not suitable for my kind of diriving style as compare with other brands with regards to FC

    Rather than change car, you should think about changing your driving style which is stressful for the car.


  • 05 September 2016 - 01:00 PM
    jg2000

    Yes. So it seem like this car is not suitable for my kind of diriving style as compare with other brands with regards to FC

    I was forced to change my driving style by all the new speed cameras in Singapore - both the permanent and the temporary hidden ones.�

    Basically, not too difficult if you just treat it that you are now in Australia on a driving holiday where you keep to around the speed limits and maintain proper safety distances to car in front.�

    End up FC improved.�


  • 05 September 2016 - 01:09 PM
    Axela72

    Rather than change car, you should think about changing your driving style which is stressful for the car.

    I have tried and managed to almost hit 9.5km/l for a few tank but too stressful. There is no pleasure for me driving if need to control my right leg. So in the end i just revert back to my old habit

    Alamak.. The FXT would be more suitable for you compared to FNA..

    Agreed, as fxt FC seem to be quite close to fna. If i just wait for another mth or 2, i would have gotten the FL fxt at cheaper than my fna price. Not to mention the digital speedometer which is in my major criteria to have list. Too bad, i have no idea that there is FL coming out during last Nov.

    Next drive if the new Forester doesnt have better/improve in FC, i would probably go back to my initial want to buy brand Skoda, since they are back with SUV model

    Edited by Axela72, 05 September 2016 - 01:21 PM.

  • 05 September 2016 - 03:42 PM
    Icecube187

    Attended new owners workshop on Sat. The trainer said for FNA, there's a service bulletin from Subaru recommending S-mode instead of I-mode for better fuel economy and less carbon buildup in engine. Wanna find out more info. Anyone knows where to download the svc bulletins?

    As a FNA driver, im intrigued by this....

    Anyone with more info on this?

    Driven abt 7.5k km, and i have not used S mode yet and thought its meaningless.

    Subaru technical bulletins can be found here:

    http://techinfo.suba...c/whatsNew.html
  • 05 September 2016 - 04:58 PM
    Elginlye

    As a FNA driver, im intrigued by this....

    Anyone with more info on this?

    Driven abt 7.5k km, and i have not used S mode yet and thought its meaningless.

    Subaru technical bulletins can be found here:

    http://techinfo.suba...c/whatsNew.html

    Yes, quite a few of us FNA owners the workshop were quite intrigued/concerned too.

    Thanks for the link but this site needs a paid subscription and none of the subject headlines seem promising,�

    Have driven 1.6k km on I-mode and getting ~ 7-8L/100km based on 30/70 urban/e-way driving pattern.

    Tried some S-mode last 2 days but found it more thirsty and noiser ride due to higher RPM.

    Just concern on the purported carbon buildup which I cannot see/feel.

    Will probably call MotorImage to confirm if nothing else.


    Edited by Elginlye, 05 September 2016 - 04:58 PM.

  • 05 September 2016 - 08:34 PM
    JuzFXT
    Missed the 3 sept workshop... Going for the next one
  • 05 September 2016 - 08:57 PM
    Mkl22

    Better than my FNA. 99% city drive give me ave 15L/100km.

    Hopefully can afford to chance car with better FC when warranty expire

    Measured manually from fuel tank vs distance or via the meter and instantaneous? Huge diff.
  • 05 September 2016 - 09:35 PM
    shev88
    Will the meter tend to provide a more fuel efficient reading than calculating manually?

    Btw, was driving sedan previously. Now very worry about forgetting when I'm parking at those SUV unfriendly multi storey car park where there are metal railings at the top. worry one day will forget and reverse bang my spoiler into them.
  • 05 September 2016 - 10:04 PM
    Tohto
    S mode give better FC than I mode for my FXT. if you observe the trip meter, the current FC reading drop to lower FC faster than in I mode. Even in city driving.
  • 05 September 2016 - 10:22 PM
    thefalcon

    Hi all,�

    How to use the headlight washer? I remember read in this thread, but can't find it.�

    thanks in advance.�


  • 05 September 2016 - 10:35 PM
    thefalcon

    Will the meter tend to provide a more fuel efficient reading than calculating manually?

    Btw, was driving sedan previously. Now very worry about forgetting when I'm parking at those SUV unfriendly multi storey car park where there are metal railings at the top. worry one day will forget and reverse bang my spoiler into them.

    Print this photo and paste on your dashboard.� [:p][:p][:p]

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  • 05 September 2016 - 10:39 PM
    Pocus

    Will the meter tend to provide a more fuel efficient reading than calculating manually?

    Btw, was driving sedan previously. Now very worry about forgetting when I'm parking at those SUV unfriendly multi storey car park where there are metal railings at the top. worry one day will forget and reverse bang my spoiler into them.

    meter tend to be more efficient.

    I was from compact hatch to SUV, I can tell you, no worries you sure will be conscious, esp if you park there on regular basis.


  • 05 September 2016 - 11:07 PM
    Sarion

    Anyone driving a Legacy? I'm considering getting this car or the Forester XT.

    How's is the FC compare to the New Legacy 2.5 4WD. Forester XT 's getting around 1L/7km on heavy feet!

    how much fuel can you save vs the extra road tax you have to pay for the additional 500cc more? do your maths, it may not be worth it.

    if u drive less, u pay less for petrol, but same for road tax...


    Like everything about Forester except the FC.
    Btw, during that time, i didnt know that the FC is so bad. Thought some mentioned about 8 or 9Km/l FC for fxt. So i taken FNA assuming it has better FC. Turn out under my leg is even worst. Cant image after 5 yrs, how bad will the FC become. Probably 5km/l then

    Luckily the Fuel tank is 60L instead of 50 L as my previous car. If no, i have to pump petrol twice instead of once a week.

    you guys can be so funny... my EJ25 is still going well at 7.6~km/l after 7yr, you think the FA20DIT can be worse than that?

    5km/l.... maybe do S# all the way hard driving....


  • 05 September 2016 - 11:09 PM
    Jerrimie

    Hi all,�

    How to use the headlight washer? I remember read in this thread, but can't find it.�

    thanks in advance.�

    just activate wiper washer with your headlights on.


  • 05 September 2016 - 11:35 PM
    Tohto

    how much fuel can you save vs the extra road tax you have to pay for the additional 500cc more? do your maths, it may not be worth it.
    if u drive less, u pay less for petrol, but same for road tax...


    you guys can be so funny... my EJ25 is still going well at 7.6~km/l after 7yr, you think the FA20DIT can be worse than that?
    5km/l.... maybe do S# all the way hard driving....


    He is driving the FNA. I think something wrong with his driving style.

    My XT I am getting average 9.5km/l for 50/50 base on manual calculation. Trip meter will always read better.
  • 05 September 2016 - 11:36 PM
    Summer_s1
    Hi bro out there. I'm driving a 2016 FXT. Do you encounter any rattling noise from the boot and your able to pin point it? I have removed everything from the rear boot. Except for spare tyre, tools and the rest of the stuff orginal from the car. I also drive at small road without rear licence plate for awhile. Rattling or tak tak noise still there when over uneven road. Like some plastic noise. Last servicing got feedback the noise but not solve. Hope anyone encounter and solved it. Please let me know
  • 06 September 2016 - 12:24 AM
    razor54

    Hi all,

    How to use the headlight washer? I remember read in this thread, but can't find it.

    thanks in advance.

    Headlight must be on. Activate washer for more than 2 seconds to bring up the headlight washers.
  • 06 September 2016 - 12:29 AM
    BrandonTan

    Hi bro out there. I'm driving a 2016 FXT. Do you encounter any rattling noise from the boot and your able to pin point it? I have removed everything from the rear boot. Except for spare tyre, tools and the rest of the stuff orginal from the car. I also drive at small road without rear licence plate for awhile. Rattling or tak tak noise still there when over uneven road. Like some plastic noise. Last servicing got feedback the noise but not solve. Hope anyone encounter and solved it. Please let me know

    could be the tyre jack loosen? check it. or maybe the middle seatbelt on the roof. or could also be your tyre pressure too high that causes firm ride. I got these problem but i solve it by using Harmon Kardon sound system to iron out those unwanted noise with sweet music. Cheers.


  • 06 September 2016 - 08:37 AM
    Axela72

    He is driving the FNA. I think something wrong with his driving style.

    My XT I am getting average 9.5km/l for 50/50 base on manual calculation. Trip meter will always read better.

    if i ave my best and worst [ (6.5 + 17.2)/2] like yours for 50/50 drive style, isnt it become 11.85 km/l?

    The problem is my driving route is not 50/50 but 95/5 to 99/1. This car is very strict (high FC) for city drive but very lenient (low FC) for expressway drive
  • 06 September 2016 - 09:37 AM
    Tohto

    if i ave my best and worst [ (6.5 + 17.2)/2] like yours for 50/50 drive style, isnt it become 11.85 km/l?

    The problem is my driving route is not 50/50 but 95/5 to 99/1. This car is very strict (high FC) for city drive but very lenient (low FC) for expressway drive

    Of course you have to take average reading for a number of tanks to truly show the real FC.
    To calculate the FC base on per trip is not true.
    You think those so call 20km/l claim by some model, if drive 10km in city traffic for a single trip can get this FC. No way.

    Calculate your FC base on per tank. Not per trip.
    If I drive for 4km to my neighborhood shopping center. I also can also record 15L/100km FC for that trip.

    Edited by Tohto, 06 September 2016 - 09:47 AM.

  • 06 September 2016 - 10:17 AM
    Davidtch

    Of course you have to take average reading for a number of tanks to truly show the real FC.
    To calculate the FC base on per trip is not true.
    You think those so call 20km/l claim by some model, if drive 10km in city traffic for a single trip can get this FC. No way.

    Calculate your FC base on per tank. Not per trip.
    If I drive for 4km to my neighborhood shopping center. I also can also record 15L/100km FC for that trip.

    I think it is his way of driving that resulted in this skew numbers.

    From 0km/h, he will slam his throttle & chiong all the way to traffic light.� Brake hard at red light.


  • 06 September 2016 - 10:18 AM
    Bplakad

    I have been reading this forum but noticed that not much discussion regarding tyres. I find that the original tyres (FXT) squeal too much and does'nt seem to grip very well. Anyone here changed their stock tyres and what is�a good tyre recommendation?��


  • 06 September 2016 - 11:50 AM
    Theoldjaffa

    I have been reading this forum but noticed that not much discussion regarding tyres. I find that the original tyres (FXT) squeal too much and does'nt seem to grip very well. Anyone here changed their stock tyres and what is a good tyre recommendation?

    Been following the thread as I've shortlisted FXT as a potential choice for my next car.

    I read some changed to 235/50/R18.

    Using Goodyear F1A2 or Michelin Primacy I think.
  • 06 September 2016 - 11:55 AM
    Theoldjaffa
    Would also like to learn more about some basic plug and play mods, like exhausts. Besides Invidia and HKS, anything else?

    Is there any remap that can up the torque as much as possible within tolerance of the lineartronic?

    For e.g., Volvo has Polestar, VAG has MTM etc.

    Anyone tried buying without leather seats? Meaning to stick with original factory fabric. Any discount given?

    Lastly, any good chin chye male SE to recommend for TPY MI? planning to test drive tomorrow but decision only next year so I need someone who is not so hung up over sales.

    Thanks all and all replies much appreciated!
  • 06 September 2016 - 01:36 PM
    Shox87

    Would also like to learn more about some basic plug and play mods, like exhausts. Besides Invidia and HKS, anything else?

    Is there any remap that can up the torque as much as possible within tolerance of the lineartronic?

    For e.g., Volvo has Polestar, VAG has MTM etc.

    Anyone tried buying without leather seats? Meaning to stick with original factory fabric. Any discount given?

    Lastly, any good chin chye male SE to recommend for TPY MI? planning to test drive tomorrow but decision only next year so I need someone who is not so hung up over sales.

    Thanks all and all replies much appreciated!

    Hello theoldjaffa, i am also considering the FXT for change next year. Perhaps maybe we can try together for a better price?�

    As for your questions, i am not sure if MI has the fabric seats as a option. Those units in the showroom came with full black leather or the half leather-half alcantara(Black edition)

    Let me know if you are keen to head out to see-see look look?

    Thanks


  • 06 September 2016 - 01:37 PM
    DioPian

    Would also like to learn more about some basic plug and play mods, like exhausts. Besides Invidia and HKS, anything else?

    Is there any remap that can up the torque as much as possible within tolerance of the lineartronic?

    For e.g., Volvo has Polestar, VAG has MTM etc.

    Anyone tried buying without leather seats? Meaning to stick with original factory fabric. Any discount given?

    Lastly, any good chin chye male SE to recommend for TPY MI? planning to test drive tomorrow but decision only next year so I need someone who is not so hung up over sales.

    Thanks all and all replies much appreciated!

    As it is, FXT's torque is already equivalent to Landrover's Discovery which cost 100k more. U looking to race from traffic light to traffic light?

    Just pop by the showroom & test drive. They wont be pushy because they understand its a 100k+ item
  • 06 September 2016 - 01:55 PM
    Tohto

    I have been reading this forum but noticed that not much discussion regarding tyres. I find that the original tyres (FXT) squeal too much and does'nt seem to grip very well. Anyone here changed their stock tyres and what is a good tyre recommendation?

    I change tyre to 235/50/18 right after collect my car.
  • 06 September 2016 - 02:04 PM
    Pocus

    Would also like to learn more about some basic plug and play mods, like exhausts. Besides Invidia and HKS, anything else?

    Is there any remap that can up the torque as much as possible within tolerance of the lineartronic?

    For e.g., Volvo has Polestar, VAG has MTM etc.

    Anyone tried buying without leather seats? Meaning to stick with original factory fabric. Any discount given?

    Lastly, any good chin chye male SE to recommend for TPY MI? planning to test drive tomorrow but decision only next year so I need someone who is not so hung up over sales.

    Thanks all and all replies much appreciated!

    Remapping of ECU to higher power and torque is only available through 3rd party tuners, so warranty will not be covered if you go that route.
  • 06 September 2016 - 02:20 PM
    Theoldjaffa

    Hello theoldjaffa, i am also considering the FXT for change next year. Perhaps maybe we can try together for a better price?

    As for your questions, i am not sure if MI has the fabric seats as a option. Those units in the showroom came with full black leather or the half leather-half alcantara(Black edition)

    Let me know if you are keen to head out to see-see look look?

    Thanks

    Sure! When the time comes when you and I are both form to buy, we can then go together:)

    Now I just wanna look see, test drive, see if got feel anot. Haha.

    As it is, FXT's torque is already equivalent to Landrover's Discovery which cost 100k more. U looking to race from traffic light to traffic light?

    Just pop by the showroom & test drive. They wont be pushy because they understand its a 100k+ item

    More torque means better throttle response and a more enjoyable drive. It's like money, no one complains that it's too much.

    Not all who aims for higher bhp and torque are looking to race.

    Remapping of ECU to higher power and torque is only available through 3rd party tuners, so warranty will not be covered if you go that route.

    You have any recommendations? Edge, SPT, BMS?

    Taking warranty out of the consideration.

    Btw if it's too sensitive, we can PM. Thanks mate
  • 06 September 2016 - 03:27 PM
    kssg777

    Has been driving FNA for slightly more than a month. Physically calculation base on starting fill ESSO 95 till full tank till 31 August and refill till full tank for closing. 70% highway, my FC is per litre 9.6 km.

    I have already travel 2234km for the first month


    Edited by kssg777, 06 September 2016 - 03:29 PM.

  • 06 September 2016 - 03:41 PM
    Bplakad

    Bro Tohto, what brand of tyres did you change to? Actually I am trying to find out what brand of tyres are preferred by Forester owners.��


  • 06 September 2016 - 03:54 PM
    Jthl

    for those wanting to measure FC, personally i think using the AVG FC reading is better than using the Current FC reading.

    no need to track for every trip.

    Instead can track starting from the last trip meter reset.

    But usually, the wanting to track FC will only last for less than one year.

    If you are the one who constantly want to track FC after year 1, you should not consider Subarus.�

    No point making our lives miserable :)


  • 06 September 2016 - 05:45 PM
    Tohto

    Bro Tohto, what brand of tyres did you change to? Actually I am trying to find out what brand of tyres are preferred by Forester owners.

    Michelin Primacy 3 ST.

    I don't go off-road. So I don't need off-road tyre.

    Edited by Tohto, 06 September 2016 - 05:45 PM.

  • 06 September 2016 - 05:51 PM
    Wt_know
    if Forester looks as good as Levorg ... i'm totally sold
  • 06 September 2016 - 07:50 PM
    DioPian
    4 Reasons Why Subaru Forester Wins "SUV of the Year" Again

    http://www.torquenew...-suv-year-again

    Edited by DioPian, 06 September 2016 - 07:52 PM.

  • 06 September 2016 - 08:01 PM
    Rachdanom

    Michelin Primacy 3 ST.

    I don't go off-road. So I don't need off-road tyre.

    Any palpable difference in drive/handling minus any post-purchase rationalization? :-)

    Or mainly for looks?

    I also am researching this when bored...

    Edited by Rachdanom, 06 September 2016 - 08:02 PM.

  • 06 September 2016 - 09:09 PM
    Axela72

    I think it is his way of driving that resulted in this skew numbers.

    From 0km/h, he will slam his throttle & chiong all the way to traffic light. Brake hard at red light.

    Why both of u only subjectively focus on my drive in this car but not all my drive on other cars? Yes, u may be right on the way i drive. So this should also apply to all the previous cars i have driven.

    So why the previous cars i driven only have 1 to 2km/l FC difference apart between city & expressway drive but Forester has almost 11km/l difference apart?

    I suspect that it is because 4 wheel drive will have very bad FC if hard stop and go vs 2 wheel drive car. On the other hand, it has better FC during cruising vs 2 wheel drive car
  • 06 September 2016 - 09:22 PM
    WML888

    Been following the thread as I've shortlisted FXT as a potential choice for my next car.

    I read some changed to 235/50/R18.

    Using Goodyear F1A2 or Michelin Primacy I think.

    Any specific features of FXT you like ?
  • 06 September 2016 - 10:06 PM
    Sarion

    Why both of u only subjectively focus on my drive in this car but not all my drive on other cars? Yes, u may be right on the way i drive. So this should also apply to all the previous cars i have driven.

    So why the previous cars i driven only have 1 to 2km/l FC difference apart between city & expressway drive but Forester has almost 11km/l difference apart?

    I suspect that it is because 4 wheel drive will have very bad FC if hard stop and go vs 2 wheel drive car. On the other hand, it has better FC during cruising vs 2 wheel drive car

    if your previous ride is NA or only LPT, then why compare so hard to FXT?

    weight is also another consideration. AWD is not the main culprit, since Forester NA can go 13.2km/l.


  • 06 September 2016 - 10:16 PM
    Iluvchoco

    Maybe you re-circulation auto off and outside air come in.

    Actually my air con is always set to recirculation. I have noticed this will have more chance to happen when the engine rev to more then 2k rpm. Have asked Subaru lengkee during my 5k servicing but what they do is just check and clean the filter, but The smell still comes in sometime. No choice need to go in again...

    In addition, the reverse camera also lags a bit after I Change from R to D, meaning when I Change to gear D, the screen still shows the reverse camera footage...

    Anyone? Lol.....
  • 06 September 2016 - 10:42 PM
    Theoldjaffa

    Any specific features of FXT you like ?

    Mainly price/performance ratio.

    Then the FL has LED, GPS, active safety.

    That's why need to go see if got feel anot.
  • 06 September 2016 - 11:08 PM
    Tohto

    Mainly price/performance ratio.

    Then the FL has LED, GPS, active safety.

    That's why need to go see if got feel anot.


    Are driving a Alfa Romeo now? From a car that had very strong character, a Forester you will not feel special.
  • 07 September 2016 - 03:22 AM
    Chucky2007

    Would also like to learn more about some basic plug and play mods, like exhausts. Besides Invidia and HKS, anything else?

    Is there any remap that can up the torque as much as possible within tolerance of the lineartronic?

    For e.g., Volvo has Polestar, VAG has MTM etc.

    Anyone tried buying without leather seats? Meaning to stick with original factory fabric. Any discount given?

    Lastly, any good chin chye male SE to recommend for TPY MI? planning to test drive tomorrow but decision only next year so I need someone who is not so hung up over sales.

    Thanks all and all replies much appreciated!

    Exhaust.. Currently LTA approved only HKS and Invidia.

    Can choose factory fabric seat.. Discount $300 or $500.. Choose it better Bec locally fitted leather quality not there think the jin is rushed. Might as well take that $300-500 saving and TOP up outside at a good upholstery shop if your choice.

    Remap yes. Ecutek. At least 3 tuner can do FXT using ecutek in Singapore.

    SA at MI rotate between Leng Kee n TPY. Male SE that's quite Ching chai I know is:

    Timothy Png
    Andy (sorry forgot surname but is a soft spoken thin guy.. Not a fat Andy)
    Christopher Tan
  • 07 September 2016 - 05:17 AM
    7hm

    Why both of u only subjectively focus on my drive in this car but not all my drive on other cars? Yes, u may be right on the way i drive. So this should also apply to all the previous cars i have driven.

    So why the previous cars i driven only have 1 to 2km/l FC difference apart between city & expressway drive but Forester has almost 11km/l difference apart?

    I suspect that it is because 4 wheel drive will have very bad FC if hard stop and go vs 2 wheel drive car. On the other hand, it has better FC during cruising vs 2 wheel drive car

    in my similarly figured engine (237hp, 345Nm, 2.0L), if I drive only lousy neighborhood conditions where got to stop at every traffic light, I probably finish with less than 8km/l. Highway, 12~16km/l.

    I don't see why the FXT wouldn't be similar.

    In addition, the reverse camera also lags a bit after I Change from R to D, meaning when I Change to gear D, the screen still shows the reverse camera footage...

    Anyone? Lol.....

    To me it's OK. In fact on my car I have a setting enabled that keeps the reverse camera on until I exceed a certain forward velocity.


  • 07 September 2016 - 09:29 AM
    Theoldjaffa

    Are driving a Alfa Romeo now? From a car that had very strong character, a Forester you will not feel special.

    I used to drive the 159, followed by a 3.2 V6 manual Alfa GT which was scrapped in Feb this year when COE is expired.

    I agree fully that a Forester may not evoke the same emotions I had with the Alfa, but as age comes, practicality and price matters more and more.

    Nowadays cars are so darn expensive! The new Giulia is likely to be priced around the entry A4 and 320 and C Class, and i'm not prepared to spend that kind of money on a car. Ok, actually I can't afford hahaha

    That's why need to test drive to see if got "feel" anot ma. Haha

    Exhaust.. Currently LTA approved only HKS and Invidia.

    Can choose factory fabric seat.. Discount $300 or $500.. Choose it better Bec locally fitted leather quality not there think the jin is rushed. Might as well take that $300-500 saving and TOP up outside at a good upholstery shop if your choice.

    Remap yes. Ecutek. At least 3 tuner can do FXT using ecutek in Singapore.

    SA at MI rotate between Leng Kee n TPY. Male SE that's quite Ching chai I know is:

    Timothy Png
    Andy (sorry forgot surname but is a soft spoken thin guy.. Not a fat Andy)
    Christopher Tan

    Thank you so much! Great info!

    Edited by Theoldjaffa, 07 September 2016 - 09:29 AM.

  • 07 September 2016 - 01:45 PM
    Chucky2007

    I used to drive the 159, followed by a 3.2 V6 manual Alfa GT which was scrapped in Feb this year when COE is expired.

    I agree fully that a Forester may not evoke the same emotions I had with the Alfa, but as age comes, practicality and price matters more and more.

    Nowadays cars are so darn expensive! The new Giulia is likely to be priced around the entry A4 and 320 and C Class, and i'm not prepared to spend that kind of money on a car. Ok, actually I can't afford hahaha

    That's why need to test drive to see if got "feel" anot ma. Haha
    Thank you so much! Great info!

    If you are looking for "feel" for Japanese car.. Don't think Honda 1.5T or Toyota 2.0na or Mazda, Nissan, Mitsubishi or Daihatsu... Will provide much feel.

    The forester turbo feel is there but the roll around the corners will definitely not as tight as a sedan Alpha so you may have to remind yourself that's it's a taller car with higher CG.

    The good news is you can improve the handling characteristics of the FXT.. Cusco have lots of undercarriage bars and coilovers and shock absorbers available to stiffen the ride until the handling is right tight.. Just add in less than $5k for everything still cheaper than getting a cayenne Macan or Alpha at current price
  • 08 September 2016 - 10:40 AM
    Enye

    Thanks for the advise. To confirm my swimming trunk is too large, may i know what is your FC when 100% city drive?

    if 100% city drive your fc is normal lah

    for my car used by my wife to send and fetch kids and groceries etc, can hit 6km/l very happy liao

  • 08 September 2016 - 11:05 PM
    Pocus

    Me oso considered Xtrail..but u must note that xtrail may have a heavier body weight..jus my 5c view...

    I might a exaggerating but driving the Xtrail is like whipping an old buffalo to pull a cart full of hay...

    A tad underpowered...
  • 08 September 2016 - 11:26 PM
    coldastone17

    I might a exaggerating but driving the Xtrail is like whipping an old buffalo to pull a cart full of hay...

    A tad underpowered...

    totally agreed..well wat to do..3rd seats unuseable and adds to weight


  • 09 September 2016 - 12:19 AM
    Fteocs
    Anyone know where to get yellow speed brake kit? As in which garage or workshop.
    Thanks
  • 09 September 2016 - 09:56 AM
    Elginlye

    Attended new owners workshop on Sat. The trainer said for FNA, there's a service bulletin from Subaru recommending S-mode instead of I-mode for better fuel economy and less carbon buildup in engine. Wanna find out more info. Anyone knows where to download the svc bulletins?

    More updates after�I spoke to the trainer again yesterday.

    1. Manufacturer has collected data that suggests I-mode causes carbon buildup in engine, reducing fuel economy.

    2. When this (pt 1) happens, S-mode gives better economy. This�is observed in cars with mileage, i.e. "older cars".�

    3. If I remember right, he also said, between both modes, �the i-mode has more variability in controlling the amount of fuel injected and rpm level. Meaning i-Mode "waste" more fuel in some drive scenarios (sudden & short acceleration spurts perhaps?). In contrast, S-mode is more "predictable".

    4. Manufacturer is still looking into this, gathering data and tweaking software continuously. When s/w updates are avail, MI will update automatically when we send in our cars for servicing,
    5. Best way reduce/clear carbon buildup is to do long trips >25km.

    For now, I will continue to use I-mode, observe for dips in fuel economy over time, and check with the service adviser at each servicing.


  • 09 September 2016 - 11:03 AM
    BenTong

    Wow, great candid discussion of Forester XT FC. I am just wondering if anyone knew the actual real life FC of Nissan Xtrail ? Would it be the similar to Forester XT?


    Outback is also in my consideration as it is bigger and has nicer colour. By the way, is the insurance fee the same as Forester or higher?�

    same same..


  • 09 September 2016 - 12:51 PM
    chooyj

    Actually my air con is always set to recirculation. I have noticed this will have more chance to happen when the engine rev to more then 2k rpm. Have asked Subaru lengkee during my 5k servicing but what they do is just check and clean the filter, but The smell still comes in sometime. No choice need to go in again...

    In addition, the reverse camera also lags a bit after I Change from R to D, meaning when I Change to gear D, the screen still shows the reverse camera footage...

    Anyone? Lol.....

    My Aircon is also set to recirculation, and sometimes I can smell outside air on hard driving. You are not alone
  • 09 September 2016 - 03:37 PM
    thefalcon

    Forester has high FC, because it can do the following. Which we never use it in sg road.

    Watch this video. May be car with 17KM/L cannot do this.� [:p][:p]


    Edited by thefalcon, 09 September 2016 - 03:55 PM.

  • 09 September 2016 - 03:53 PM
    Rayoflight

    Anyone know where to get yellow speed brake kit? As in which garage or workshop.
    Thanks

    what is yellow speed brake kit?

    if u looking for big brake kits.. u can look for RAGE Performance.

    https://www.facebook...ormancetechnik/

    This is where i installed my BBKs for BMW 3series.

    Alot of Harriers also installed their BBKs there.


    Edited by Rayoflight, 09 September 2016 - 03:54 PM.

  • 09 September 2016 - 04:22 PM
    Nastyjim16

    Anyone know where to get yellow speed brake kit? As in which garage or workshop.
    Thanks

    https://carousell.com/markwong83
  • 09 September 2016 - 04:54 PM
    Rayoflight

    ic..yellow brand


    Edited by Rayoflight, 09 September 2016 - 04:56 PM.

  • 09 September 2016 - 06:41 PM
    Ngbernie

    honestly never hear before, not cheap, no resale value�

    don't play with brakes. go with known quality from trusted sources.

    Why not go OE with that budget:

    http://www.jnaperfor...1e5.6002a4.html

    https://www.japanpar...ts/detail/46430

    Or pick up used STI gold brembos from dekit WRXes.


  • 09 September 2016 - 07:28 PM
    Tohto


    More updates after I spoke to the trainer again yesterday.


    1. Manufacturer has collected data that suggests I-mode causes carbon buildup in engine, reducing fuel economy.


    2. When this (pt 1) happens, S-mode gives better economy. This is observed in cars with mileage, i.e. "older cars".


    3. If I remember right, he also said, between both modes, the i-mode has more variability in controlling the amount of fuel injected and rpm level. Meaning i-Mode "waste" more fuel in some drive scenarios (sudden & short acceleration spurts perhaps?). In contrast, S-mode is more "predictable".


    4. Manufacturer is still looking into this, gathering data and tweaking software continuously. When s/w updates are avail, MI will update automatically when we send in our cars for servicing,


    5. Best way reduce/clear carbon buildup is to do long trips >25km.


    For now, I will continue to use I-mode, observe for dips in fuel economy over time, and check with the service adviser at each servicing.

    For FXT, S mode keep the rpm very constant at around 1.7 - 2.1k rpm, just nice for speed of 70 to 110km/h. Which have much better access to the torque.
    Whole I mode always at a much lower rpm, so to accelerate fast. You will need to step hard on the accelerator.
    I drive 95% on S mode.

    Edited by Tohto, 09 September 2016 - 07:29 PM.

  • 09 September 2016 - 07:32 PM
    Chucky2007

    Forester has high FC, because it can do the following. Which we never use it in sg road.

    Watch this video. May be car with 17KM/L cannot do this. [:p] [:p]

    And that's an FNA doing all the off-roading..
  • 10 September 2016 - 11:09 AM
    Tohto

    Any idea what is the NA and XT price now?

    Why can't just call MI and ask?
  • 10 September 2016 - 11:11 AM
    redstuff

    Any idea what is the NA and XT price now?

    http://www.sgcarmart.../2016-09-08.pdf


  • 10 September 2016 - 11:16 AM
    Tohto

    http://www.sgcarmart.../2016-09-08.pdf


    No accurate lah..
  • 10 September 2016 - 12:19 PM
    cmdsea

    No accurate lah..

    Advertised "From $115,800" in today's ST


  • 10 September 2016 - 02:10 PM
    Chucky2007

    I still find the Outback more worthy of that latter claim.

    Why?
  • 10 September 2016 - 03:26 PM
    7hm

    Why?

    Outback is bigger and more rugged. For one, it has a reinforced undercarriage, a feature the Forester lacks.

    That said, I still find the Forester's off-roading ability respectable ... unlike a lot of the competing "SUVs".


  • 10 September 2016 - 10:11 PM
    Sarion

    honestly never hear before, not cheap, no resale value�

    don't play with brakes. go with known quality from trusted sources.

    Why not go OE with that budget:

    http://www.jnaperfor...1e5.6002a4.html

    https://www.japanpar...ts/detail/46430

    Or pick up used STI gold brembos from dekit WRXes.

    agree... seriously, $3.2k for an unknown brand? u gotta take care of the subsequent pad changes as well, where and what you can get.

    as per Ngbernie advised, why not look around for used STi brembos, either the 4/2 Gold or the 6/4 Silvers.

    or if u have budget, look at Tarox from BKS or Endless or P.mu or Brembos or AP Racing from the marketplace or importers.

    dun really need 6/4 for Forester power unless you intend to increase it. Bigger brakes match with good pads and tyres should improve braking effectiveness a lot.

    the Brembo Gold set�is really cheap now at used price, just recon properly should be able to last, with lots of pad selections direct from Amazon Japan.

    just remember to do both front and rear upgrade as usual advice for AWD.


  • 11 September 2016 - 12:40 PM
    Shox87

    Any idea what is the NA and XT price now?

    I think the FXT shld be 127800, i presume FNA is around 110k (arnd 17k lower)

    These prices are quoted by SE, w.o any negotiation yet.�


  • 11 September 2016 - 01:35 PM
    therock

    The FNA was priced at 115 k in yesterday's papers..


  • 11 September 2016 - 09:13 PM
    Sarion

    http://www.motortren...7-nissan-rogue/

    New Nissan Rogue which should come to us as Qashqai....

    gives those who's sitting on the fence another good choice, just look at the interior leather quality and the wonderful exterior...

    Forester next model will hopefully come with better styling.... hopefully�won't be that far since Impreza with modular platform already launched...


  • 11 September 2016 - 10:49 PM
    7hm

    http://www.motortren...7-nissan-rogue/

    New Nissan Rogue which should come to us as Qashqai....

    gives those who's sitting on the fence another good choice, just look at the interior leather quality and the wonderful exterior...

    Forester next model will hopefully come with better styling.... hopefully�won't be that far since Impreza with modular platform already launched...

    The Rogue is known to us as the X-Trail.


  • 12 September 2016 - 12:10 AM
    Chucky2007

    http://www.motortren...7-nissan-rogue/

    New Nissan Rogue which should come to us as Qashqai....
    gives those who's sitting on the fence another good choice, just look at the interior leather quality and the wonderful exterior...

    Forester next model will hopefully come with better styling.... hopefully won't be that far since Impreza with modular platform already launched...

    One man meat is another poison... The Nissan Rogue interior looks too cluttered.. I prefer FXT simplistic dashboard... And simply the handling and power output.. No need flowery fanciful interior like what the Rogue needs...
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