Yes. So it seem like this car is not suitable for my kind of diriving style as compare with other brands with regards to FC
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Rather than change car, you should think about changing your driving style which is stressful for the car.
Yes. So it seem like this car is not suitable for my kind of diriving style as compare with other brands with regards to FC
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I was forced to change my driving style by all the new speed cameras in Singapore - both the permanent and the temporary hidden ones.�
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I have tried and managed to almost hit 9.5km/l for a few tank but too stressful. There is no pleasure for me driving if need to control my right leg. So in the end i just revert back to my old habitRather than change car, you should think about changing your driving style which is stressful for the car.
Agreed, as fxt FC seem to be quite close to fna. If i just wait for another mth or 2, i would have gotten the FL fxt at cheaper than my fna price. Not to mention the digital speedometer which is in my major criteria to have list. Too bad, i have no idea that there is FL coming out during last Nov.Alamak.. The FXT would be more suitable for you compared to FNA..
Next drive if the new Forester doesnt have better/improve in FC, i would probably go back to my initial want to buy brand Skoda, since they are back with SUV model
Edited by Axela72, 05 September 2016 - 01:21 PM.
As a FNA driver, im intrigued by this....Attended new owners workshop on Sat. The trainer said for FNA, there's a service bulletin from Subaru recommending S-mode instead of I-mode for better fuel economy and less carbon buildup in engine. Wanna find out more info. Anyone knows where to download the svc bulletins?
Anyone with more info on this?
Driven abt 7.5k km, and i have not used S mode yet and thought its meaningless.
Subaru technical bulletins can be found here:
http://techinfo.suba...c/whatsNew.html
As a FNA driver, im intrigued by this....
Anyone with more info on this?
Driven abt 7.5k km, and i have not used S mode yet and thought its meaningless.
Subaru technical bulletins can be found here:
http://techinfo.suba...c/whatsNew.html
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Yes, quite a few of us FNA owners the workshop were quite intrigued/concerned too.
Thanks for the link but this site needs a paid subscription and none of the subject headlines seem promising,�
Have driven 1.6k km on I-mode and getting ~ 7-8L/100km based on 30/70 urban/e-way driving pattern.
Tried some S-mode last 2 days but found it more thirsty and noiser ride due to higher RPM.
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Just concern on the purported carbon buildup which I cannot see/feel.
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Will probably call MotorImage to confirm if nothing else.
Edited by Elginlye, 05 September 2016 - 04:58 PM.
Measured manually from fuel tank vs distance or via the meter and instantaneous? Huge diff.Better than my FNA. 99% city drive give me ave 15L/100km.
Hopefully can afford to chance car with better FC when warranty expire
Btw, was driving sedan previously. Now very worry about forgetting when I'm parking at those SUV unfriendly multi storey car park where there are metal railings at the top. worry one day will forget and reverse bang my spoiler into them.
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Will the meter tend to provide a more fuel efficient reading than calculating manually?
Btw, was driving sedan previously. Now very worry about forgetting when I'm parking at those SUV unfriendly multi storey car park where there are metal railings at the top. worry one day will forget and reverse bang my spoiler into them.
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Will the meter tend to provide a more fuel efficient reading than calculating manually?
Btw, was driving sedan previously. Now very worry about forgetting when I'm parking at those SUV unfriendly multi storey car park where there are metal railings at the top. worry one day will forget and reverse bang my spoiler into them.
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meter tend to be more efficient.
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I was from compact hatch to SUV, I can tell you, no worries you sure will be conscious, esp if you park there on regular basis.
Anyone driving a Legacy? I'm considering getting this car or the Forester XT.
How's is the FC compare to the New Legacy 2.5 4WD. Forester XT 's getting around 1L/7km on heavy feet!
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how much fuel can you save vs the extra road tax you have to pay for the additional 500cc more? do your maths, it may not be worth it.
if u drive less, u pay less for petrol, but same for road tax...
Like everything about Forester except the FC.
Btw, during that time, i didnt know that the FC is so bad. Thought some mentioned about 8 or 9Km/l FC for fxt. So i taken FNA assuming it has better FC. Turn out under my leg is even worst. Cant image after 5 yrs, how bad will the FC become. Probably 5km/l then
Luckily the Fuel tank is 60L instead of 50 L as my previous car. If no, i have to pump petrol twice instead of once a week.
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you guys can be so funny... my EJ25 is still going well at 7.6~km/l after 7yr, you think the FA20DIT can be worse than that?
5km/l.... maybe do S# all the way hard driving....
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just activate wiper washer with your headlights on.
how much fuel can you save vs the extra road tax you have to pay for the additional 500cc more? do your maths, it may not be worth it.
if u drive less, u pay less for petrol, but same for road tax...
you guys can be so funny... my EJ25 is still going well at 7.6~km/l after 7yr, you think the FA20DIT can be worse than that?
5km/l.... maybe do S# all the way hard driving....
He is driving the FNA. I think something wrong with his driving style.
My XT I am getting average 9.5km/l for 50/50 base on manual calculation. Trip meter will always read better.
Headlight must be on. Activate washer for more than 2 seconds to bring up the headlight washers.Hi all,
How to use the headlight washer? I remember read in this thread, but can't find it.
thanks in advance.
Hi bro out there. I'm driving a 2016 FXT. Do you encounter any rattling noise from the boot and your able to pin point it? I have removed everything from the rear boot. Except for spare tyre, tools and the rest of the stuff orginal from the car. I also drive at small road without rear licence plate for awhile. Rattling or tak tak noise still there when over uneven road. Like some plastic noise. Last servicing got feedback the noise but not solve. Hope anyone encounter and solved it. Please let me know
could be the tyre jack loosen? check it. or maybe the middle seatbelt on the roof. or could also be your tyre pressure too high that causes firm ride. I got these problem but i solve it by using Harmon Kardon sound system to iron out those unwanted noise with sweet music. Cheers.
if i ave my best and worst [ (6.5 + 17.2)/2] like yours for 50/50 drive style, isnt it become 11.85 km/l?He is driving the FNA. I think something wrong with his driving style.
My XT I am getting average 9.5km/l for 50/50 base on manual calculation. Trip meter will always read better.
The problem is my driving route is not 50/50 but 95/5 to 99/1. This car is very strict (high FC) for city drive but very lenient (low FC) for expressway drive
Of course you have to take average reading for a number of tanks to truly show the real FC.if i ave my best and worst [ (6.5 + 17.2)/2] like yours for 50/50 drive style, isnt it become 11.85 km/l?
The problem is my driving route is not 50/50 but 95/5 to 99/1. This car is very strict (high FC) for city drive but very lenient (low FC) for expressway drive
To calculate the FC base on per trip is not true.
You think those so call 20km/l claim by some model, if drive 10km in city traffic for a single trip can get this FC. No way.
Calculate your FC base on per tank. Not per trip.
If I drive for 4km to my neighborhood shopping center. I also can also record 15L/100km FC for that trip.
Edited by Tohto, 06 September 2016 - 09:47 AM.
Of course you have to take average reading for a number of tanks to truly show the real FC.
To calculate the FC base on per trip is not true.
You think those so call 20km/l claim by some model, if drive 10km in city traffic for a single trip can get this FC. No way.
Calculate your FC base on per tank. Not per trip.
If I drive for 4km to my neighborhood shopping center. I also can also record 15L/100km FC for that trip.
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I think it is his way of driving that resulted in this skew numbers.
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Been following the thread as I've shortlisted FXT as a potential choice for my next car.I have been reading this forum but noticed that not much discussion regarding tyres. I find that the original tyres (FXT) squeal too much and does'nt seem to grip very well. Anyone here changed their stock tyres and what is a good tyre recommendation?
I read some changed to 235/50/R18.
Using Goodyear F1A2 or Michelin Primacy I think.
Is there any remap that can up the torque as much as possible within tolerance of the lineartronic?
For e.g., Volvo has Polestar, VAG has MTM etc.
Anyone tried buying without leather seats? Meaning to stick with original factory fabric. Any discount given?
Lastly, any good chin chye male SE to recommend for TPY MI? planning to test drive tomorrow but decision only next year so I need someone who is not so hung up over sales.
Thanks all and all replies much appreciated!
Would also like to learn more about some basic plug and play mods, like exhausts. Besides Invidia and HKS, anything else?
Is there any remap that can up the torque as much as possible within tolerance of the lineartronic?
For e.g., Volvo has Polestar, VAG has MTM etc.
Anyone tried buying without leather seats? Meaning to stick with original factory fabric. Any discount given?
Lastly, any good chin chye male SE to recommend for TPY MI? planning to test drive tomorrow but decision only next year so I need someone who is not so hung up over sales.
Thanks all and all replies much appreciated!
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As it is, FXT's torque is already equivalent to Landrover's Discovery which cost 100k more. U looking to race from traffic light to traffic light?Would also like to learn more about some basic plug and play mods, like exhausts. Besides Invidia and HKS, anything else?
Is there any remap that can up the torque as much as possible within tolerance of the lineartronic?
For e.g., Volvo has Polestar, VAG has MTM etc.
Anyone tried buying without leather seats? Meaning to stick with original factory fabric. Any discount given?
Lastly, any good chin chye male SE to recommend for TPY MI? planning to test drive tomorrow but decision only next year so I need someone who is not so hung up over sales.
Thanks all and all replies much appreciated!
Just pop by the showroom & test drive. They wont be pushy because they understand its a 100k+ item
I change tyre to 235/50/18 right after collect my car.I have been reading this forum but noticed that not much discussion regarding tyres. I find that the original tyres (FXT) squeal too much and does'nt seem to grip very well. Anyone here changed their stock tyres and what is a good tyre recommendation?
Remapping of ECU to higher power and torque is only available through 3rd party tuners, so warranty will not be covered if you go that route.Would also like to learn more about some basic plug and play mods, like exhausts. Besides Invidia and HKS, anything else?
Is there any remap that can up the torque as much as possible within tolerance of the lineartronic?
For e.g., Volvo has Polestar, VAG has MTM etc.
Anyone tried buying without leather seats? Meaning to stick with original factory fabric. Any discount given?
Lastly, any good chin chye male SE to recommend for TPY MI? planning to test drive tomorrow but decision only next year so I need someone who is not so hung up over sales.
Thanks all and all replies much appreciated!
Sure! When the time comes when you and I are both form to buy, we can then go together:)Hello theoldjaffa, i am also considering the FXT for change next year. Perhaps maybe we can try together for a better price?
As for your questions, i am not sure if MI has the fabric seats as a option. Those units in the showroom came with full black leather or the half leather-half alcantara(Black edition)
Let me know if you are keen to head out to see-see look look?
Thanks
Now I just wanna look see, test drive, see if got feel anot. Haha.
More torque means better throttle response and a more enjoyable drive. It's like money, no one complains that it's too much.As it is, FXT's torque is already equivalent to Landrover's Discovery which cost 100k more. U looking to race from traffic light to traffic light?
Just pop by the showroom & test drive. They wont be pushy because they understand its a 100k+ item
Not all who aims for higher bhp and torque are looking to race.
You have any recommendations? Edge, SPT, BMS?Remapping of ECU to higher power and torque is only available through 3rd party tuners, so warranty will not be covered if you go that route.
Taking warranty out of the consideration.
Btw if it's too sensitive, we can PM. Thanks mate
Has been driving FNA for slightly more than a month. Physically calculation base on starting fill ESSO 95 till full tank till 31 August and refill till full tank for closing. 70% highway, my FC is per litre 9.6 km.
I have already travel 2234km for the first month
Edited by kssg777, 06 September 2016 - 03:29 PM.
for those wanting to measure FC, personally i think using the AVG FC reading is better than using the Current FC reading.
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no need to track for every trip.
Instead can track starting from the last trip meter reset.
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Edited by DioPian, 06 September 2016 - 07:52 PM.
Why both of u only subjectively focus on my drive in this car but not all my drive on other cars? Yes, u may be right on the way i drive. So this should also apply to all the previous cars i have driven.I think it is his way of driving that resulted in this skew numbers.
From 0km/h, he will slam his throttle & chiong all the way to traffic light. Brake hard at red light.
So why the previous cars i driven only have 1 to 2km/l FC difference apart between city & expressway drive but Forester has almost 11km/l difference apart?
I suspect that it is because 4 wheel drive will have very bad FC if hard stop and go vs 2 wheel drive car. On the other hand, it has better FC during cruising vs 2 wheel drive car
Why both of u only subjectively focus on my drive in this car but not all my drive on other cars? Yes, u may be right on the way i drive. So this should also apply to all the previous cars i have driven.
So why the previous cars i driven only have 1 to 2km/l FC difference apart between city & expressway drive but Forester has almost 11km/l difference apart?
I suspect that it is because 4 wheel drive will have very bad FC if hard stop and go vs 2 wheel drive car. On the other hand, it has better FC during cruising vs 2 wheel drive car
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if your previous ride is NA or only LPT, then why compare so hard to FXT?
weight is also another consideration. AWD is not the main culprit, since Forester NA can go 13.2km/l.
Actually my air con is always set to recirculation. I have noticed this will have more chance to happen when the engine rev to more then 2k rpm. Have asked Subaru lengkee during my 5k servicing but what they do is just check and clean the filter, but The smell still comes in sometime. No choice need to go in again...Maybe you re-circulation auto off and outside air come in.
In addition, the reverse camera also lags a bit after I Change from R to D, meaning when I Change to gear D, the screen still shows the reverse camera footage...
Anyone? Lol.....
Exhaust.. Currently LTA approved only HKS and Invidia.Would also like to learn more about some basic plug and play mods, like exhausts. Besides Invidia and HKS, anything else?
Is there any remap that can up the torque as much as possible within tolerance of the lineartronic?
For e.g., Volvo has Polestar, VAG has MTM etc.
Anyone tried buying without leather seats? Meaning to stick with original factory fabric. Any discount given?
Lastly, any good chin chye male SE to recommend for TPY MI? planning to test drive tomorrow but decision only next year so I need someone who is not so hung up over sales.
Thanks all and all replies much appreciated!
Can choose factory fabric seat.. Discount $300 or $500.. Choose it better Bec locally fitted leather quality not there think the jin is rushed. Might as well take that $300-500 saving and TOP up outside at a good upholstery shop if your choice.
Remap yes. Ecutek. At least 3 tuner can do FXT using ecutek in Singapore.
SA at MI rotate between Leng Kee n TPY. Male SE that's quite Ching chai I know is:
Timothy Png
Andy (sorry forgot surname but is a soft spoken thin guy.. Not a fat Andy)
Christopher Tan
Why both of u only subjectively focus on my drive in this car but not all my drive on other cars? Yes, u may be right on the way i drive. So this should also apply to all the previous cars i have driven.
So why the previous cars i driven only have 1 to 2km/l FC difference apart between city & expressway drive but Forester has almost 11km/l difference apart?
I suspect that it is because 4 wheel drive will have very bad FC if hard stop and go vs 2 wheel drive car. On the other hand, it has better FC during cruising vs 2 wheel drive car
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in my similarly figured engine (237hp, 345Nm, 2.0L), if I drive only lousy neighborhood conditions where got to stop at every traffic light, I probably finish with less than 8km/l. Highway, 12~16km/l.
I don't see why the FXT wouldn't be similar.
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In addition, the reverse camera also lags a bit after I Change from R to D, meaning when I Change to gear D, the screen still shows the reverse camera footage...
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To me it's OK. In fact on my car I have a setting enabled that keeps the reverse camera on until I exceed a certain forward velocity.
I used to drive the 159, followed by a 3.2 V6 manual Alfa GT which was scrapped in Feb this year when COE is expired.Are driving a Alfa Romeo now? From a car that had very strong character, a Forester you will not feel special.
I agree fully that a Forester may not evoke the same emotions I had with the Alfa, but as age comes, practicality and price matters more and more.
Nowadays cars are so darn expensive! The new Giulia is likely to be priced around the entry A4 and 320 and C Class, and i'm not prepared to spend that kind of money on a car. Ok, actually I can't afford hahaha
That's why need to test drive to see if got "feel" anot ma. Haha
Thank you so much! Great info!Exhaust.. Currently LTA approved only HKS and Invidia.
Can choose factory fabric seat.. Discount $300 or $500.. Choose it better Bec locally fitted leather quality not there think the jin is rushed. Might as well take that $300-500 saving and TOP up outside at a good upholstery shop if your choice.
Remap yes. Ecutek. At least 3 tuner can do FXT using ecutek in Singapore.
SA at MI rotate between Leng Kee n TPY. Male SE that's quite Ching chai I know is:
Timothy Png
Andy (sorry forgot surname but is a soft spoken thin guy.. Not a fat Andy)
Christopher Tan
Edited by Theoldjaffa, 07 September 2016 - 09:29 AM.
If you are looking for "feel" for Japanese car.. Don't think Honda 1.5T or Toyota 2.0na or Mazda, Nissan, Mitsubishi or Daihatsu... Will provide much feel.I used to drive the 159, followed by a 3.2 V6 manual Alfa GT which was scrapped in Feb this year when COE is expired.
I agree fully that a Forester may not evoke the same emotions I had with the Alfa, but as age comes, practicality and price matters more and more.
Nowadays cars are so darn expensive! The new Giulia is likely to be priced around the entry A4 and 320 and C Class, and i'm not prepared to spend that kind of money on a car. Ok, actually I can't afford hahaha
That's why need to test drive to see if got "feel" anot ma. Haha
Thank you so much! Great info!
The forester turbo feel is there but the roll around the corners will definitely not as tight as a sedan Alpha so you may have to remind yourself that's it's a taller car with higher CG.
The good news is you can improve the handling characteristics of the FXT.. Cusco have lots of undercarriage bars and coilovers and shock absorbers available to stiffen the ride until the handling is right tight.. Just add in less than $5k for everything still cheaper than getting a cayenne Macan or Alpha at current price
if 100% city drive your fc is normal lahThanks for the advise. To confirm my swimming trunk is too large, may i know what is your FC when 100% city drive?
for my car used by my wife to send and fetch kids and groceries etc, can hit 6km/l very happy liao
I might a exaggerating but driving the Xtrail is like whipping an old buffalo to pull a cart full of hay...Me oso considered Xtrail..but u must note that xtrail may have a heavier body weight..jus my 5c view...
A tad underpowered...
I might a exaggerating but driving the Xtrail is like whipping an old buffalo to pull a cart full of hay...
A tad underpowered...
totally agreed..well wat to do..3rd seats unuseable and adds to weight
Thanks
Attended new owners workshop on Sat. The trainer said for FNA, there's a service bulletin from Subaru recommending S-mode instead of I-mode for better fuel economy and less carbon buildup in engine. Wanna find out more info. Anyone knows where to download the svc bulletins?
More updates after�I spoke to the trainer again yesterday.
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1. Manufacturer has collected data that suggests I-mode causes carbon buildup in engine, reducing fuel economy.
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3. If I remember right, he also said, between both modes, �the i-mode has more variability in controlling the amount of fuel injected and rpm level. Meaning i-Mode "waste" more fuel in some drive scenarios (sudden & short acceleration spurts perhaps?). In contrast, S-mode is more "predictable".
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For now, I will continue to use I-mode, observe for dips in fuel economy over time, and check with the service adviser at each servicing.
Wow, great candid discussion of Forester XT FC. I am just wondering if anyone knew the actual real life FC of Nissan Xtrail ? Would it be the similar to Forester XT?
Outback is also in my consideration as it is bigger and has nicer colour. By the way, is the insurance fee the same as Forester or higher?�
same same..
My Aircon is also set to recirculation, and sometimes I can smell outside air on hard driving. You are not aloneActually my air con is always set to recirculation. I have noticed this will have more chance to happen when the engine rev to more then 2k rpm. Have asked Subaru lengkee during my 5k servicing but what they do is just check and clean the filter, but The smell still comes in sometime. No choice need to go in again...
In addition, the reverse camera also lags a bit after I Change from R to D, meaning when I Change to gear D, the screen still shows the reverse camera footage...
Anyone? Lol.....
Forester has high FC, because it can do the following. Which we never use it in sg road.
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Anyone know where to get yellow speed brake kit? As in which garage or workshop.
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Edited by Rayoflight, 09 September 2016 - 03:54 PM.
https://carousell.com/markwong83Anyone know where to get yellow speed brake kit? As in which garage or workshop.
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Edited by Rayoflight, 09 September 2016 - 04:56 PM.
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don't play with brakes. go with known quality from trusted sources.
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https://www.japanpar...ts/detail/46430
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Or pick up used STI gold brembos from dekit WRXes.
For FXT, S mode keep the rpm very constant at around 1.7 - 2.1k rpm, just nice for speed of 70 to 110km/h. Which have much better access to the torque.
More updates after I spoke to the trainer again yesterday.
1. Manufacturer has collected data that suggests I-mode causes carbon buildup in engine, reducing fuel economy.
2. When this (pt 1) happens, S-mode gives better economy. This is observed in cars with mileage, i.e. "older cars".
3. If I remember right, he also said, between both modes, the i-mode has more variability in controlling the amount of fuel injected and rpm level. Meaning i-Mode "waste" more fuel in some drive scenarios (sudden & short acceleration spurts perhaps?). In contrast, S-mode is more "predictable".
4. Manufacturer is still looking into this, gathering data and tweaking software continuously. When s/w updates are avail, MI will update automatically when we send in our cars for servicing,
5. Best way reduce/clear carbon buildup is to do long trips >25km.
For now, I will continue to use I-mode, observe for dips in fuel economy over time, and check with the service adviser at each servicing.
Whole I mode always at a much lower rpm, so to accelerate fast. You will need to step hard on the accelerator.
I drive 95% on S mode.
Edited by Tohto, 09 September 2016 - 07:29 PM.
And that's an FNA doing all the off-roading..Forester has high FC, because it can do the following. Which we never use it in sg road.
Watch this video. May be car with 17KM/L cannot do this.
Why can't just call MI and ask?Any idea what is the NA and XT price now?
No accurate lah..
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Advertised "From $115,800" in today's ST
Why?I still find the Outback more worthy of that latter claim.
Why?
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Outback is bigger and more rugged. For one, it has a reinforced undercarriage, a feature the Forester lacks.
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That said, I still find the Forester's off-roading ability respectable ... unlike a lot of the competing "SUVs".
honestly never hear before, not cheap, no resale value�
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don't play with brakes. go with known quality from trusted sources.
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Why not go OE with that budget:
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https://www.japanpar...ts/detail/46430
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agree... seriously, $3.2k for an unknown brand? u gotta take care of the subsequent pad changes as well, where and what you can get.
as per Ngbernie advised, why not look around for used STi brembos, either the 4/2 Gold or the 6/4 Silvers.
or if u have budget, look at Tarox from BKS or Endless or P.mu or Brembos or AP Racing from the marketplace or importers.
dun really need 6/4 for Forester power unless you intend to increase it. Bigger brakes match with good pads and tyres should improve braking effectiveness a lot.
the Brembo Gold set�is really cheap now at used price, just recon properly should be able to last, with lots of pad selections direct from Amazon Japan.
just remember to do both front and rear upgrade as usual advice for AWD.
Any idea what is the NA and XT price now?
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I think the FXT shld be 127800, i presume FNA is around 110k (arnd 17k lower)
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The FNA was priced at 115 k in yesterday's papers..
http://www.motortren...7-nissan-rogue/
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New Nissan Rogue which should come to us as Qashqai....
gives those who's sitting on the fence another good choice, just look at the interior leather quality and the wonderful exterior...
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Forester next model will hopefully come with better styling.... hopefully�won't be that far since Impreza with modular platform already launched...
http://www.motortren...7-nissan-rogue/
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New Nissan Rogue which should come to us as Qashqai....
gives those who's sitting on the fence another good choice, just look at the interior leather quality and the wonderful exterior...
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Forester next model will hopefully come with better styling.... hopefully�won't be that far since Impreza with modular platform already launched...
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The Rogue is known to us as the X-Trail.
One man meat is another poison... The Nissan Rogue interior looks too cluttered.. I prefer FXT simplistic dashboard... And simply the handling and power output.. No need flowery fanciful interior like what the Rogue needs...http://www.motortren...7-nissan-rogue/
New Nissan Rogue which should come to us as Qashqai....
gives those who's sitting on the fence another good choice, just look at the interior leather quality and the wonderful exterior...
Forester next model will hopefully come with better styling.... hopefully won't be that far since Impreza with modular platform already launched...
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