mycarforum: Liverpool 2014/15 Part 2 : Qtr Century On.... part 2

Sterling!!!! goal!!!!

f**king wicked pass from henderson!

1-0!

Our season 1st goal :))
More to come :)

What a pass by Henderson.

Fark johnson la. Tried to shoot twoce...both rugby shots.

Fark johnson la. Tried to shoot twoce...both rugby shots.

2nd career

we need markovic to be fit.... FAST

SM looks a bit uncertain.

Lucas and unker at the middle --> CANNOT lah� [shakehead]

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soton is finishing stronger .... bleah�

Emre to come in 2nd half for lucas. Too bad no sub for johnson. He should not b playing next wk when moreno is available.

Soton is playing surprising very well considering their lack of good players.

Too bad no sub for johnson. He should not b playing next wk when moreno is available.

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we should just sell him to West Ham, GIVE FOC also can� [;)]

SM do not have the long distribution of Reina... We have speedy forwards, should exploit more often�

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we should just sell him to West Ham, GIVE FOC also can�

SM do not have the long distribution of Reina... We have speedy forwards, should exploit more often�

Ya at least save on salary...

Emre to come in 2nd half for lucas. Too bad no sub for johnson. He should not b playing next wk when moreno is available.

Or Allen for Lucas. At hm we should be more attack minded. Gerard and Lucas will be good for match against city or ass.

Edited by Kopites, 17 August 2014 - 09:24 PM.

We will score more in the 2nd half !
Lai liao :)) Come On, Pool :)

I thought the through pass was made by lucas?�

I thought the through pass was made by lucas?�

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no lah. JH.

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Our midfield and defence bit shaky lol.

what I see missing from first half our highline high tempo pressing. One touch triangle passing to open up the Defence.

what I see missing from first half our highline high tempo pressing. One touch triangle passing to open up the Defence.

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lol Soton is the one pressing our midfielders and defence.

Cant press too high cos saints set up to play deep n counter. Rodgers should b smarter by now n not go all out attack for nothing. Really very difficult to break saints. Pool should instead do less attacking n encourage saints to attack. N then break real fast. Thats the only chance.

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lol Soton is the one pressing our midfielders and defence.

Yalor. At hm first match we should play like last season opening first few matches without liu s. Pin pin pomp pomp goal. Shut those critic up.

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any club but manure� smack his backside� cut his pocket money�

Mine's a Liverpool fan

Don think we can expect pool to play like last season. They took everyone by surprise. Now all will know wat to expect fm them n defend accordingly. So...expect them to win ugly this season.

we may concede if this goes on man...

bad bad defence

see....

Wtf....2 of the worse pool players in lucas n johnsom responsible for the goal.

lucas or stevie need to be subbed. really cmi�

After buying 1/4 of Soto, we are not beating them :(

30mins to go to salvage the game !
What a save by Mignolet !

Wtf the whole team doing in the 2nd half?

lucas offers zero going forward.

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no point playing him with stevie lah.

Looking pretty bad now :(

Pool 1st game last season, tjey were lucky to win. Today, they'll b lucky if dont lose. Very very bad in this half.

whoever plays in defence... the same fark happens all over

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anytime Soton attack, we are look like conceding

DS is poor today.. offer nothing

Are we going to buy Soton players since they are playing well?!
Wake up, POOL !!

Lambert on, come on score the winner!

DS! Do nothing whole match and score! u r forgiven!

Edited by Vegas, 17 August 2014 - 10:08 PM.

Scored 1 made 1 by sterling. 2 target men is working at the moment.

Nobody celebrating 2-1?

Lets hope Pool can tahan all the way.

Cant celebrate.,,jus a sigh of relief.

yes we were bit lucky to get the goal. I don't think any of us think we deserve the lead lol.

CCB almost 2-2!!

Farking defence! Really Farking defence!

look at that....

Wtf johnson. Easy header also cant win. Pool playing like the away team.

Gonna be a looonnnggg season....every week heart attack.

Wat a relief!!! This is bad!...top 4 anyone?

We are gonna Win the Lge!

Heng ar.. whistle blow

So do i win anything for my prediction?

My prediction...2-1
Saints fans tries to boo lovren everytime he touches the ball...but pool fans cheers even louder.

Bro,

Pls give your prediction before the game starts leh...

Aiyah,..still can la. I gave mine abt 5 mins in, right?.. give chance la. Now betting site also got in-game betting. Hehe.

Predictions winner this week...

Vegas
Credor
Shorty

No prize

Got prize la....bragging rights. If i remember correctly...for whole of last season the most correct predictions is only 3, right? Thats how tough it is to predict a pool match. Always fooling us fans.

Need to play better to do well. Also need this kind of win when they do not play well in order to win the league!

not a convincing win, but three points in the bag is all that matters for now. hopefully the team will be more settled as the season progresses.

Hey what happen arhh? Alamak. Missed putting in my prediction. First game thia and make me want to poop in my pants. Dump Johnson lah.

Actually it was plain to see that Skrtel is the misfit in central defence. The first goal is clearly his fault. Lovren had his back covered but he chose to be near Lovren and allow Cyle with acres of space to bulldoze into the penalty area. Skrtel's positioning is questionable. Another instant is when he totally miss the header that almost resulted in conceding another goal. No matter who we pair with Skrtel, the outcome will always be the same, calamity defending.

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Gerrard is a passenger throughout the game. Only see him contributing through set pieces. And Lucas is struggling to keep pace. And for GJ, thank god Moreno is here. Anyway what matters most is 3 points in the bag.�

A relief to get all 3 points in the opening game of the season, plus it is a home game.

At times looked like Southampton were the better team, rode our luck and they would feel aggrieved not to have walk away with a draw.

Hoped that as the season progress, the team would gel better, cheers to the new variant " SAS " partnership.

Got prize la....bragging rights. If i remember correctly...for whole of last season the most correct predictions is only 3, right? Thats how tough it is to predict a pool match. Always fooling us fans.

Total goals count? Mine 3 goals leh

An ugly win.

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PC not consistent can't depend on him.

DS can't play as lone striker.

GJ can go to bench or rot in reserve team if no improvement.

wah lao this new season really jialat� first, was so glad when swansea won at OT� Then tot Spurs would lose when got red card and concede penalty, but added time still won� everton dropping points was welcomed, and when gunners was level on 90 min, i tot there would be more surprises� pity again their perseverance paid off eventually��

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then after waiting for so many months and buying so many players, we only saw 2 new faces at the back� what was not surprising was the team was devoid of creativity and was fortunate to be ahead in first half. after the goal and keeping possession aplenty without threatening, we promptly let soton equalize. a team stripped of so many important people from the year ago, and still they looked better than us most of the match� sigh...

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the only saving grace is that we somehow survived at least 2 sure/should-score opportunities and also somehow managed to squeeze one more goal in to take all 3 points...

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i hope that this is really the exception and not the norm this season, and from next match on, the team will click and show much better accounts of themselves.

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Or is this a ploy by BR to create a false front for the other teams, so that they see we so poor at home and won't come and park bus again???

Ok back to the 3points match proper. Happy with the 3 points but disappointed with the performance. Our players seem tire. Late in every department except me no let. If not for him we might even do a man u losing first match at home.

1) proof DS cannot be line striker. He need someone to draw away defenders. Enough say of liu s contribution.

2) everyone talk liu s 30plus goals but no one mention where initiate a attack from midfield (central/wing). Contiho can't do it. That was why a big gap appear between midfield and attack. Problem solved when Allen come on.

3) we can't play Stevie and Lucas together not in home game or defensive minded team. Lucas goog to have around as Stevie cover.

4)satisfy with the two new defenders.

Conclusion a long ask to finish in the top four base on tonight performance.

I hope next weekend br can field exactly the same team like last season first few without Stevie/liu s.

Celebrate our win :)
We have 37 more matches for us to win :))

Or Allen for Lucas. At hm we should be more attack minded. Gerard and Lucas will be good for match against city or ass.

did nothing throught out the whole game. why is he not sold???

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my brother tell me.. because no one want him :angry:� :angry: :angry:��

I thought the through pass was made by lucas?�

the one he did, didn't result in a goal.

Predictions winner this week...

Vegas
Credor
Shorty

No prize

kelong...

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You are not doing a good job Raymondism

did nothing throught out the whole game. why is he not sold???
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my brother tell me.. because no one want him :angry:� :angry: :angry:��

the one he did, didn't result in a goal.

kelong...
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You are not doing a good job Raymondism

Don'say that to Raymond. Later you get yellow card. Hahaha.

As for Lucas I read was in talk with rafa napoli. No news till now. Hmm Glenn j also no new at all. Sad we sold Kelly but retain Glenn.

Well not all gloomy and down yet. Give me one week annual leave I too need times to feel my way back in the office. Hopefully next two weeks we can see all teams performing like we know in the premier league.

Edited by Kopites, 17 August 2014 - 11:46 PM.

Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers: "Our ambitions have to be bigger than one player. Luis Suarez sent us a lovely text this morning wishing us all the best and telling us to start strong - it's a lovely gesture. We're bigger than any one player, I still think we need a striker so we'll search through until the end of the window for that.

"He sent the text to me personally. What did it say? Don't be so nosey! I texted him back - it's a great love in I've got with him! He's a great boy but he's gone. It was a lovely touch. Liverpool will always be in his heart."

Aiyah,..still can la. I gave mine abt 5 mins in, right?.. give chance la. Now betting site also got in-game betting. Hehe.

To be fair, pls give your Predictions before kick off...
If kick off liao then be "automatic" lah

did nothing throught out the whole game. why is he not sold???
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my brother tell me.. because no one want him :angry:� :angry: :angry:��

the one he did, didn't result in a goal.

kelong...
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You are not doing a good job Raymondism

I m just compiling hor...

Don'say that to Raymond. Later you get yellow card. Hahaha.

As for Lucas I read was in talk with rafa napoli. No news till now. Hmm Glenn j also no new at all. Sad we sold Kelly but retain Glenn.

Well not all gloomy and down yet. Give me one week annual leave I too need times to feel my way back in the office. Hopefully next two weeks we can see all teams performing like we know in the premier league.

Since when I can give yellow card???

Iirc, Rodgers came out and said something about Kelly having a future during pre-season..... then he is gone

To be fair, pls give your Predictions before kick off...
If kick off liao then be "automatic" lah

I m just compiling hor...

Bro Shorty think got prize to win prediction ;p

Since when I can give yellow card???

Iirc, Rodgers came out and said something about Kelly having a future during pre-season..... then he is gone

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nobody want GJ becoz of his wages... but then since when does full backs win titles?

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BR dun want Kelly coz injured 3/4 of time,

he prob dun want Agger coz injured 2/3 the time

he cant play lucas and gerrard as 2 man CM, Gerrard in DM position render Lucas totally ineffective.

Today henderson was probably playing right mid, coutinho somewhere inside left, lose control of mf when soton press high and fast

Don'say that to Raymond. Later you get yellow card. Hahaha.

As for Lucas I read was in talk with rafa napoli. No news till now. Hmm Glenn j also no new at all. Sad we sold Kelly but retain Glenn.

Well not all gloomy and down yet. Give me one week annual leave I too need times to feel my way back in the office. Hopefully next two weeks we can see all teams performing like we know in the premier league.

haha ok ok

Soton No.2 played so much better then Pool No. 2 ..... :angry:

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Somemore, Soton No. 2 scored and Pool No. 2 shooting sky high.........

Leicester City played very well against Everton with no big 'stars' in their team. Swansea played well against ManU�.... [thumbsup]

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QPR disappointment against Hull City ... [thumbsdown]

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Stroke City no improvement from last season against Aston Villa and Newcastle against ManCity�...

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West Ham worst of all against Spurs, can missed a penalty�when goal-keeper dived the wrong side... [grin]

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Arsenal & Pool�as usual, causious starts and almost a draw game. -_-

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Soton surprised us all with so many players left and can show�such a beautiful attacking flow game... [sunny]

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ManCity played their usual game and surprise of all, ManU .......

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Actually,�my personally feelings in�IMHO�is that our defence yesterday played much better than last season overall.

There is a leader in defence now :)

Lovren played very well, and marshalled the defence, and his reading is superb. Quite like JC, but much�faster in movement :)�

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The only downside yesterday was the midfield enginer room... a bit slow and lack creativity to pass the killer pass.. Couthino is off-colour.. hope he will regain back his shineness soon.

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And yes, Mignolet performed good :)

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Similar to last season first match, we toiled to first home win.. and hope�this match will propel our belief�to greater heights :)�

Incidentally a good weekend for away teams, only two teams (Gunners & Reds) won on home ground...�

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nobody want GJ becoz of his wages... but then since when does full backs win titles?

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BR dun want Kelly coz injured 3/4 of time,

he prob dun want Agger coz injured 2/3 the time

he cant play lucas and gerrard as 2 man CM, Gerrard in DM position render Lucas totally ineffective.

Today henderson was probably playing right mid, coutinho somewhere inside left, lose control of mf when soton press high and fast

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Kelly played decent in the match, which was not bad as commentator said it was like first start in 2 yr...

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Then around 2/3 of the match, he didn't chase after gunner winger, and once ball out of play, he was on the ground. I tot, wah lao, cannot be so jinxed right�.

lucky it was only cramp (seemingly), and after some stretching with help from teammate, he continued...

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wish him all the best.

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yah, Lucas was headless chicken no. 1 last night. Henderson was headless chicken no. 2. if not for his good pass, i'll say he belonged to championship team� SG was for most of the match invisible chicken. only towards the end when under immense pressure, he did contribute by breaking up soton attacks a few times� Didn't see sterling and coutinho take on opponents much, except sterling on a few occasions. For someone whose salary was going to be quadrupled, that's not good enough leh.

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sturridge was visibly glad after the match. rightly so cos he prob scored like 5 points (out of 10) for the match, if not becos of the faintest touch he had to get the 3 points. Couldn't create or finish anything much, and other notable contribution was helped to ease the pressure by wasting close to a min when bringing the ball to the far side and keeping possession in added time...

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Sigh� not the sort of start we had imagined or hoped for...

yah, Lucas was headless chicken no. 1 last night. Henderson was headless chicken no. 2. if not for his good pass, i'll say he belonged to championship team� SG was for most of the match invisible chicken. only towards the end when under immense pressure, he did contribute by breaking up soton attacks a few times� Didn't see sterling and coutinho take on opponents much, except sterling on a few occasions. For someone whose salary was going to be quadrupled, that's not good enough leh.

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sturridge was visibly glad after the match. rightly so cos he prob scored like 5 points (out of 10) for the match, if not becos of the faintest touch he had to get the 3 points. Couldn't create or finish anything much, and other notable contribution was helped to ease the pressure by wasting close to a min when bringing the ball to the far side and keeping possession in added time...

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Sigh� not the sort of start we had imagined or hoped for...

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I think the main fault lies with Stevie G and Lucas. When your center mid is overrun, the other midfielders look lost.

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There was another very good ball from JH. He chipped the ball into the penalty area, quite skillful. Too bad our player (think it was sterling or someone else) got tackled cleanly in the box.

To be fair, pls give your Predictions before kick off...
If kick off liao then be "automatic" lah

I m just compiling hor...

ok sorry boss. no more late predictions. last night out whole day la. came back rushing.�

Bro Shorty think got prize to win prediction ;p

of cos i know got no prize. if got prize u would have gotten it last season....cos u top predictor, right?� [thumbsup]

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I think the main fault lies with Stevie G and Lucas. When your center mid is overrun, the other midfielders look lost.

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There was another very good ball from JH. He chipped the ball into the penalty area, quite skillful. Too bad our player (think it was sterling or someone else) got tackled cleanly in the box.

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We all know that SG and Lucas cannot start together in CM unless SG is AM and Lucas is DM...

strange that BR decides to put Lucas...�

Since when I can give yellow card???

Iirc, Rodgers came out and said something about Kelly having a future during pre-season..... then he is gone

i hope rodgers will come out n say that glen johnson is here to stay.�

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actually that also happened to toure. the wk after he said toure still can hv a part to play, they accepted an offer for him. but too bad toure wants to stay.

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Kelly played decent in the match, which was not bad as commentator said it was like first start in 2 yr...

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Then around 2/3 of the match, he didn't chase after gunner winger, and once ball out of play, he was on the ground. I tot, wah lao, cannot be so jinxed right�.

lucky it was only cramp (seemingly), and after some stretching with help from teammate, he continued...

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wish him all the best.

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yah, Lucas was headless chicken no. 1 last night. Henderson was headless chicken no. 2. if not for his good pass, i'll say he belonged to championship team� SG was for most of the match invisible chicken. only towards the end when under immense pressure, he did contribute by breaking up soton attacks a few times� Didn't see sterling and coutinho take on opponents much, except sterling on a few occasions. For someone whose salary was going to be quadrupled, that's not good enough leh.

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sturridge was visibly glad after the match. rightly so cos he prob scored like 5 points (out of 10) for the match, if not becos of the faintest touch he had to get the 3 points. Couldn't create or finish anything much, and other notable contribution was helped to ease the pressure by wasting close to a min when bringing the ball to the far side and keeping possession in added time...

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Sigh� not the sort of start we had imagined or hoped for...

the main fault is lucas n gerrard. if them not being able to handle saints midfield, there's not much coutinho n sterling can do. n also saints played a very tight game in the middle, so coutinho basically has no space at all. henderson was not bad...but not very gd either. rodgers somehow made the mistake of putting lucas with gerrard whereby i think he should know that gerrard is now playing in lucas' position.�

I'm quite impressed by saints. Shows Koeman is a good coach.

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Well organised. Their players are strong on the ball as well, shrugged off our players quite a few times. Physical without fouling.

only good thing abt GJ is that he can run fairly fast for a 32 yr old lol.

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Kelly played decent in the match, which was not bad as commentator said it was like first start in 2 yr...
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Then around 2/3 of the match, he didn't chase after gunner winger, and once ball out of play, he was on the ground. I tot, wah lao, cannot be so jinxed right.
lucky it was only cramp (seemingly), and after some stretching with help from teammate, he continued...
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wish him all the best.
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yah, Lucas was headless chicken no. 1 last night. Henderson was headless chicken no. 2. if not for his good pass, i'll say he belonged to championship team SG was for most of the match invisible chicken. only towards the end when under immense pressure, he did contribute by breaking up soton attacks a few times Didn't see sterling and coutinho take on opponents much, except sterling on a few occasions. For someone whose salary was going to be quadrupled, that's not good enough leh.
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sturridge was visibly glad after the match. rightly so cos he prob scored like 5 points (out of 10) for the match, if not becos of the faintest touch he had to get the 3 points. Couldn't create or finish anything much, and other notable contribution was helped to ease the pressure by wasting close to a min when bringing the ball to the far side and keeping possession in added time...
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Sigh not the sort of start we had imagined or hoped for...

Actually it's the formation we play. Sg and Lucas are both playing cb most of the time.

the main fault is lucas n gerrard. if them not being able to handle saints midfield, there's not much coutinho n sterling can do. n also saints played a very tight game in the middle, so coutinho basically has no space at all. henderson was not bad...but not very gd either. rodgers somehow made the mistake of putting lucas with gerrard whereby i think he should know that gerrard is now playing in lucas' position.�

He play Lucas there to protect SG mah. How he know it will be worse.

Edited by Joseph22, 18 August 2014 - 10:11 AM.

the main fault is lucas n gerrard. if them not being able to handle saints midfield, there's not much coutinho n sterling can do. n also saints played a very tight game in the middle, so coutinho basically has no space at all. henderson was not bad...but not very gd either. rodgers somehow made the mistake of putting lucas with gerrard whereby i think he should know that gerrard is now playing in lucas' position.�

strange we can see this and yet BR can't...

could have started with Allen if he thinks Can is not ready for a EPL introduction

only good thing abt GJ is that he can run fairly fast for a 32 yr old lol.

i thot he is 29??

Actually it's the formation we play. Sg and Lucas are both playing cb most of the time.

He play Lucas there to protect SG mah. How he know it will be worse.

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Our real formation looks like this:

GK = MS

CBs = Lucas + SG

LB = Lovren

RB = Skrtel�

RM= Manquillo

LM = Johnson

CM= JH

LW = PC

RW = RS

CF = DS

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Our real formation looks like this:
GK = MS
CBs = Lucas + SG
LB = Lovren
RB = Skrtel�
RM= Manquillo
LM = Johnson
CM= JH
LW = PC
RW = RS
CF = DS

Yes... And I think is wrong... Lucas and sg should go to cover width instead. Less dangerous.

A win is still a win, no matter how ugly or bad the team play. I rather we get the 3 points than playing beautifully and draw/lose.

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Anyway, it is only the first game. Our focus should be trying to maintain our position right up there on the table till march/april, then turn on the turbo engine and zoom to the league title...

A win is still a win, no matter how ugly or bad the team play. I rather we get the 3 points than playing beautifully and draw/lose.
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Anyway, it is only the first game. Our focus should be trying to maintain our position right up there on the table till march/april, then turn on the turbo engine and zoom to the league title...

Don't get us wrong. We like to think we are Liverpool manager and give out piece of mind nia.

I'm quite impressed by saints. Shows Koeman is a good coach.

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Well organised. Their players are strong on the ball as well, shrugged off our players quite a few times. Physical without fouling.

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i was sibei impressed with the guy (who huh?) who pumped in that powerful free kick that swirled so much en-route to the top corner. If SM was less alert, he would have ended up looking stupider than barthez after he let in that roberto carlos famous free kick...

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is there still time to buy one more soton player???

the main fault is lucas n gerrard. if them not being able to handle saints midfield, there's not much coutinho n sterling can do. n also saints played a very tight game in the middle, so coutinho basically has no space at all. henderson was not bad...but not very gd either. rodgers somehow made the mistake of putting lucas with gerrard whereby i think he should know that gerrard is now playing in lucas' position.�

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sigh� yes the whole world knows that. i'm sure BR, Lucas and SG are all also human and should know too...

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but it's strange that we cannot find one able person to do this role, and need:

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- one person to lead and make accurate passes, plus take all dead balls

- one more person to do the running and cover for the lack of pace/coverage for the other

- more people who are creative and daring and have better ball control, and to receive the throw-ins as our captain must have told everyone he'll recommend they not be selected for next game if anyone so far as dares to throw any throw-ins to him...

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Must find more of those 3-in-1 leh...

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i was sibei impressed with the guy (who huh?) who pumped in that powerful free kick that swirled so much en-route to the top corner. If SM was less alert, he would have ended up looking stupider than barthez after he let in that roberto carlos famous free kick...
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is there still time to buy one more soton player???

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sigh yes the whole world knows that. i'm sure BR, Lucas and SG are all also human and should know too...
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but it's strange that we cannot find one able person to do this role, and need:
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- one person to lead and make accurate passes, plus take all dead balls
- one more person to do the running and cover for the lack of pace/coverage for the other
- more people who are creative and daring and have better ball control, and to receive the throw-ins as our captain must have told everyone he'll recommend they not be selected for next game if anyone so far as dares to throw any throw-ins to him...
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Must find more of those 3-in-1 leh...

That long range is an accident. Heard the commentator say wind very big that it change direction.

Actually what we are doing now is similar to Alonso and masch only problem is sg and Lucas are both not Alonso.

Yes very say that we are still trying to accommodate sg.

Anyone else agree with me that joe Allen bring nothing to the game after he come on?

joe allen actually brought something. he was more mobile than lucas. he did provide more attacking qualities.�

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pity lucas. came in as a box to box MF, but forced to b a DM. he got the position mastered, did very well, n now he needs to become a box to box MF agn.�

A relief to get all 3 points in the opening game of the season, plus it is a home game.

At times looked like Southampton were the better team, rode our luck and they would feel aggrieved not to have walk away with a draw.

Hoped that as the season progress, the team would gel better, cheers to the new variant " SAS " partnership.

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I starting to wonder if my heart can take it if every week like dat for the whole season.....

That long range is an accident. Heard the commentator say wind very big that it change direction.

Actually what we are doing now is similar to Alonso and masch only problem is sg and Lucas are both not Alonso.

Yes very say that we are still trying to accommodate sg.

Anyone else agree with me that joe Allen bring nothing to the game after he come on?

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But i think that there was another corner later that was also quite worrying, presumably taken by the same player (not sure if it was no. 16, according to my son)��

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Joe Allen was indeed more mobile than Lucas, but the problem is that GJ, JA, JH, LL, etc. are all either not attack-minded players, dont have the skills to attack, or are never confident unless they are 100% sure got clear route (it's like SAF, whose doctrine said can attack only if outnumber you 3 to 1 - bao jiak type).�

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I saw him at least run to openings and allow teammates under pressure the option to pass to him, but after he had the ball, he no need to see, also pass it backwards.

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If you saw newcastle, you might have the same sad feeling like me - even the newcastle players, some of them unknowns, were fast and daring and adventurous and will move from defense to attack in a split sec, and against a team like City too� There was no end-results, but they impressed me far more than our side last night...

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I starting to wonder if my heart can take it if every week like dat for the whole season.....

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yah me too� too unhealthy.

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from initially relaxed, till concerned, worried, thought that's it when equalized, then worried even more that might lose, heart beat increased� then surprisingly led again, happy a while with heart still fast, and continued to be fast (and faster) when you know got 3 (or 2) pts to lose� until finally over...

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it's history repeating itself...

joe allen actually brought something. he was more mobile than lucas. he did provide more attacking qualities.�
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pity lucas. came in as a box to box MF, but forced to b a DM. he got the position mastered, did very well, n now he needs to become a box to box MF agn.�

I beg to defer.. I only see joe Allen loss ball and break Liverpool formation and run out of positionz

That long range is an accident. Heard the commentator say wind very big that it change direction.

Actually what we are doing now is similar to Alonso and masch only problem is sg and Lucas are both not Alonso.

Yes very say that we are still trying to accommodate sg.

Anyone else agree with me that joe Allen bring nothing to the game after he come on?

JA stablise the Liverpool MF slightly and provide an outlet to move play on...

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we are accommodating gerrard, becos he brings inspirational qualities and also his set play

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i would think playing midfield 5 with gerrard and allen as anchors with henderson as box to box with coutihno(CM/AM) and sterling (no 10) and sturridge as striker.... will not get over run so much... sacrifice some width though

I beg to defer.. I only see joe Allen loss ball and break Liverpool formation and run out of positionz

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I wouldn't know - I was covering my eyes for the 2nd half....

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But i think that there was another corner later that was also quite worrying, presumably taken by the same player (not sure if it was no. 16, according to my son)�
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Joe Allen was indeed more mobile than Lucas, but the problem is that GJ, JA, JH, LL, etc. are all either not attack-minded players, dont have the skills to attack, or are never confident unless they are 100% sure got clear route (it's like SAF, whose doctrine said can attack only if outnumber you 3 to 1 - bao jiak type).�
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I saw him at least run to openings and allow teammates under pressure the option to pass to him, but after he had the ball, he no need to see, also pass it backwards.
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If you saw newcastle, you might have the same sad feeling like me - even the newcastle players, some of them unknowns, were fast and daring and adventurous and will move from defense to attack in a split sec, and against a team like City too There was no end-results, but they impressed me far more than our side last night...

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yah me too too unhealthy.
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from initially relaxed, till concerned, worried, thought that's it when equalized, then worried even more that might lose, heart beat increased then surprisingly led again, happy a while with heart still fast, and continued to be fast (and faster) when you know got 3 (or 2) pts to lose until finally over...
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it's history repeating itself...

I think they are still trying to find out their role in the new system.

I saw quite a few good long range pass from LL JH and Sg. But sadly only see JA run out of position.

I beg to defer.. I only see joe Allen loss ball and break Liverpool formation and run out of positionz

everyone is losing the ball. he was indeed there to break pool's formation, which was wrong to begin with. wat he did was to b another avenue for the ball to b brought forward, instead of sideways. lucas n gerrard were too close to one another n both playing the same way. it made the team hv 1 less body going forward.�

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yah me too� too unhealthy.

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from initially relaxed, till concerned, worried, thought that's it when equalized, then worried even more that might lose, heart beat increased� then surprisingly led again, happy a while with heart still fast, and continued to be fast (and faster) when you know got 3 (or 2) pts to lose� until finally over...

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it's history repeating itself...

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like that then shiok what

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cannot every time also like liverpool v arsenal right

i thot he is 29??

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Oh hes turning 30 this year. i always thought hes 31 this year turning 32.�

Ok then his pace is expected

everyone is losing the ball. he was indeed there to break pool's formation, which was wrong to begin with. wat he did was to b another avenue for the ball to b brought forward, instead of sideways. lucas n gerrard were too close to one another n both playing the same way. it made the team hv 1 less body going forward.�

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yes allen changed the way we brought the ball up. Instantly sterling could move more freely.

Just come in to say hi... YNWA

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Oh hes turning 30 this year. i always thought hes 31 this year turning 32.�
Ok then his pace is expected

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yes allen changed the way we brought the ball up. Instantly sterling could move more freely.

And yet we got zero shoot until lambert came in.

We have a few scare because Allen is out of position.

Anyway...

To summarize what had been discuss.

Midfield seems to be non existence agains Southampton. What could be the problem?? The style of play, the player or the opponent.

Discussion so far seems to point at formation and style of play.

I think it's a combination of both. The way I see Liverpool play, the best play was when Liverpool go for fast passing from defend to attack... Aka by-pass the midfield..

Out midfield task seems to be soaking up attack and try to snatch the ball to do a fast counter. That could explain why BR opt for two man dm in SG and LL. Joe Alle might be brought in to break up the formation and confuse the opponent (personal opinion is it's not effective as it open Liverpool out for more attack from Southampton.)

A part from that second 1/2 is pretty bad. However, at least we see new defender in action... Though he still like playing in Spain, but overall is good... Let's wait for him to adapt to Bpl style.

Anothe silver lining is sterling.. He had mature with his goal that he "tap" in excellent composurer that we see near the end of last season. If he improve further... We can see him replacing Saurez as out new icon. Maybe he is the new Barnes.

As for DS?? He is still showing the sign of blessing that got him 20 plus goals. With that we should be able to get into top 4 this season.

And yet we got zero shoot until lambert came in.

We have a few scare because Allen is out of position.

they had a few scares bcos old man n the CBs were not doing their job. cos as u may hv missed out, allen was brought in not to provide defensive cover, but to b more attack minded. �i saw a few times when gerrard tried to push a bit further up, but couldnt run back fast enough to cover his own position.

they had a few scares bcos old man n the CBs were not doing their job. cos as u may hv missed out, allen was brought in not to provide defensive cover, but to b more attack minded. �i saw a few times when gerrard tried to push a bit further up, but couldnt run back fast enough to cover his own position.

Then we are still making the same mistake as last season.

Trying to score more goals by reducing the defend.

Throwing more body into the font doesn't mean better chance of scoring.

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I starting to wonder if my heart can take it if every week like dat for the whole season.....

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Can ....

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Don't watch the full match only the first 5 minutes. Switch on again when the match is over and listen to the commence by the experts .... [:p]

Then we are still making the same mistake as last season.

Trying to score more goals by reducing the defend.

Throwing more body into the font doesn't mean better chance of scoring.

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no what we really need is a real DMC lol like masch or wanyama.

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instead of our stevie G lol.�

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no what we really need is a real DMC lol like masch or wanyama.
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instead of our stevie G lol.�

Then play him where?? U know not many ppl dare to bench him.

All waiting for him to say stepping down.

I think Roy Hodgson very happy he step down from international

Then play him where?? U know not many ppl dare to bench him.

All waiting for him to say stepping down.

I think Roy Hodgson very happy he step down from international

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Last night Toon Vs ManC, they were playing with Yaya, Fernando/Fernandinho at the last stages. How can we fight that ? sure kenna overrun.�

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SG is already a liability, put him and Lucas (his slowness surprised me, never expected him to become slow like turtle) in the middle we will be slaughtered in CL.�

if die die gerard cannot b dropped, the obviously lucas must not b his partner. was hoping to see emre. i think he should b a better partner. still fast n energetic, with him n henderson in the middle is definitely a better bet.�

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so far, for middle 3, my choice would b as above. of cos if can replace gerrard is better. but front 3 is the headache part. sterling n sturridge for now is the auto pick. but who will b the other 1 when markovic n llalana are available? coutinho is blwing hot n cold. should h b dropped? if yes...to b replaced by llalana or markovic?�

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like that then shiok what

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cannot every time also like liverpool v arsenal right

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i know i (and my heart) can do with more exercises, but dun like this tekan me lah...

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Edited by Shorty, 18 August 2014 - 03:58 PM.

if die die gerard cannot b dropped, the obviously lucas must not b his partner. was hoping to see emre. i think he should b a better partner. still fast n energetic, with him n henderson in the middle is definitely a better bet.�

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so far, for middle 3, my choice would b as above. of cos if can replace gerrard is better. but front 3 is the headache part. sterling n sturridge for now is the auto pick. but who will b the other 1 when markovic n llalana are available? coutinho is blwing hot n cold. should h b dropped? if yes...to b replaced by llalana or markovic?�

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sigh� these expensive recruits better hurry get well and start performing.

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the last time we bought (very) expensive injured players, all didn't end well...

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Last night Toon Vs ManC, they were playing with Yaya, Fernando/Fernandinho at the last stages. How can we fight that ? sure kenna overrun.�
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SG is already a liability, put him and Lucas (his slowness surprised me, never expected him to become slow like turtle) in the middle we will be slaughtered in CL.�

Lucas have to be free roaming dm to function well. His asset is reading of game which now is useless as BR want dm to play like cb.

I really hope BR can rectify our troops (playing)�and motivate them against Man C on 25th Aug. This will be a tough game.

Looking at how we suffered heart attack last night, it will really be a miracle if we manage to escape with a point at Man C.

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Hope Markovic will be back soon !

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Anyway, its a precious 3 points last night, but its over, and we shall look forward to Man C game, a mouthwatering game, at least on paper :)

Gosh, reading some of the comments here really pro sia... why you guys not taking up coaches license and do coaching... really read the game well.

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I watched the entire match, below are my humble opinions.

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Strikeforce

-�RS is our new main strike force, can create can score

-�DS is still getting used to be key striker as I think so long he has been supplementary until he is not used to the fact he is a star player in making

-�RL looks very kancheong, seems very panicky when the ball first fall to him and he seem to be jumping for every ball (misjudging most of the time)

-�PC is completely non-existence (when good very good, when poor, we like playing 10 vs 11)

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Midfield

-�SG is very slow but still pass well

- HJ is our new SG

- LL making a lot of simple mistakes and seem out of position to make tackle most of the time

- JA did alter how we play when he comes on but exposed us bigger lobang at the back when he comes on

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Defence

- GJ is really due for an exit permit soon... after running up, forgot to run back down. Glad we bought Moreno

- MS seem stoning at times, however did make a few good tackle.. need to gel with DL

- DL shows why we pay so much for him.. organizing well and show glimpse of what he can be in future, need to gel with someone for the Hypia-Henchoz era of solid wall of defense to make us invincible again

-JM upcoming young rising star... quick feet. Need more gel in with BR attacking philosophy in order to do overlapping with MF � to create more chances.

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Goalkeeper

- SM is our savior like last season first match again. Seem impossible to beat even at close range (beside the tricky backheel assist for Clyne to smash home)But high ball still killer for him. Need a good backup.

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Overall I rate our performance 6.5/10 against a newly build Southampton team (they are not as bad as they seem to be) James Ward-Prowse seems to be extremely dangerous and suit our style of play...

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Man City Next..... Finger Crossed for 1-0 to us....

Pool seriously need to buck up big time to stand any chance against city. City was very fast n incisive. Pool of last night will get slaughtered. I worry for them....n for us.

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