mycarforum: Liverpool 2014/15 Part 2 : Qtr Century On.... part 23

Koeman has more than 10 years of managing teams in holland, Spain and Portugal. He has won trophies and he seldom talks about his style or himself. Where else BR talk about how great tika style influence him and how confident he is. More expert in PR.

Already a reading supporter highlight his current predicament is almost similar to his 6 months period before getting sacked at reading.

And look at where the teams are now. Why pool can blame selling LS will definitely end up worse off, while Soton (remember the photo koeman sent of start of training when the field was empty?) didn't have enough players a month before season started, and the team can gel so well and get so good results after the first match??

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Definitely cannot be just due to LS. The players that BR bought are all mostly internationals,� guys who can get into any team. And most of last season players are still around so it can't be gelling issue as well. Soton has far more rebuilding to do, yet they played like they known each other for years.

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Few matches gone wrong and we can blame the players. But when nearly 1/3 of the season gone and we are at the bottom half, then something must be wrong with BR. He has everything from funds to players whom other teams dream about, but yet the other teams is doing better than us.

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My take : Either tactics are wrong, or determination from players are missing or perhaps both.

interesting article: http://www.theanfiel...piled-pressure/
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And interesting comment from someone on Liverpool forum that shed light on why BR simply refused to change his tactics/strategy....
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Thanks for the article. We supporters can see and this article echo what we feel about the situation and BR.

interesting article: http://www.theanfiel...piled-pressure/

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And interesting comment from someone on Liverpool forum that shed light on why BR simply refused to change his tactics/strategy....

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Have to agree on the comments... sadly though.

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We have so many internationals, and yet we are playing like some amateurs... no cohesion, no teamwork, no attack, and no defence...

The team is so pathetic, that it pains to watch...

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Haiz... I can only haiz and sigh here....

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Would the americans owners sigh? Can they see that we are overrun every match?

BR, ah BR, can you stop saying we will improve in the next match? How many next match you wanna say?

Can you stop saying we will be better once DS is back? Is our team only dependable on DS alone?

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We are fast becoming a predictable mid-table team... if not, am already is a mid-table team...

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How i long for the days that each and every opp will tremble when they meet us....

Or could it be BR's personal life problem started to unsettle his idea of how to play the team? It can affect a person very much when it comes to relationship problem

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https://sg.sports.ya...-063409852.html

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From the link given, most UK fans feel that there's some cold war going on between BR and the club's transfer committee.

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Either way, FSG is the owner. So BR still has to buck up. And really it's time to play stevie G only as a sub or in one-off games...

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take care there. Watch less Pool matches this season then, vomit less blood.�

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Ya agree with you.� Every week watch pool playing would make me vomit blood.

Koeman has more than 10 years of managing teams in holland, Spain and Portugal. He has won trophies and he seldom talks about his style or himself. Where else BR talk about how great tika style influence him and how confident he is. More expert in PR.

Already a reading supporter highlight his current predicament is almost similar to his 6 months period before getting sacked at reading.

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Later i go Excelsior trade in my pool jersey to buy Soton jersey [:p]

From the link given, most UK fans feel that there's some cold war going on between BR and the club's transfer committee.
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Either way, FSG is the owner. So BR still has to buck up. And really it's time to play stevie G only as a sub or in one-off games...

Regardless of who is been in charge of transfer. The main annoyance is the refusal to play to squad str and continue playing under performance player over player who are better.

Even if he look to off load player that he just to get rid off. He should still play them to maintenance their value.

Edited by Joseph22, 10 November 2014 - 02:35 PM.

Regardless of who is been in charge of transfer. The main annoyance is the refusal to play to squad str and continue playing under performance player over player who are better.

Even if he look to off load player that he just to get rid off. He should still play them to maintenance their value.

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Agree.

anyway it is interesting during the match against Chelsea the fans different reaction to the three substitution...

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1) Joe Allen and F.Boroni coming in for Can and rickel lamber- The fans boo the manager and rightfully so as those two are the better performer on the pitch.. a

2) Mario when subsiture out was given a standing ovation.. clearly indicating that they know what Mario had been offering on the pitch dispite not scoring.

anyway it is interesting during the match against Chelsea the fans different reaction to the three substitution...

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1) Joe Allen and F.Boroni coming in for Can and rickel lamber- The fans boo the manager and rightfully so as those two are the better performer on the pitch.. a

2) Mario when subsiture out was given a standing ovation.. clearly indicating that they know what Mario had been offering on the pitch dispite not scoring.

they came in for Can n coutinho la. n yes...both were the better palyers that night. dunno wat he thinking. n mario...i think all can see that he is trying his best, but it looked like he was doing nothing. bcos...simple...there's nothing he can do upfront alone w/o the proper service from the midfielders. jus hope he doesnt lose hope.

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Ya agree with you.� Every week watch pool playing would make me vomit blood.

I don't know about vomit blood but me and my wife noticed one particular next day a lot of hair was on the living room floor after I watched a Liverpool match. Cant remember exactly which match but it was a midnight match, late Saturday kick off. Can see my frustration and stress.

I don't know about vomit blood but me and my wife noticed one particular next day a lot of hair was on the living room floor after I watched a Liverpool match. Cant remember exactly which match but it was a midnight match, late Saturday kick off. Can see my frustration and stress.

one match only?....im losing hair everyday for the whole wk after a game....so for quite a while, i've been losing hair everyday non stop.�

From the link given, most UK fans feel that there's some cold war going on between BR and the club's transfer committee.
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Either way, FSG is the owner. So BR still has to buck up. And really it's time to play stevie G only as a sub or in one-off games...

Looks like some supporters trying to find excuses for BR. Rumours also flying around that FSG is pissed. I don't really trust FSG but BR knew what he will be getting when he decided to take up the job.

one match only?....im losing hair everyday for the whole wk after a game....so for quite a while, i've been losing hair everyday non stop.�

Losing hair everyday is common for me too. But this particular match I lose a lot of hair. Way above my normal quota haha.
Before Chelsea match BR said a win against Chelsea can kick start liverpool's season. So now what, since we didn't win?

He really should keep his mouth shut big time.

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Agreed x2

Looks like some supporters trying to find excuses for BR. Rumours also flying around that FSG is pissed. I don't really trust FSG but BR knew what he will be getting when he decided to take up the job.

Losing hair everyday is common for me too. But this particular match I lose a lot of hair. Way above my normal quota haha.
Before Chelsea match BR said a win against Chelsea can kick start liverpool's season. So now what, since we didn't win?

He really should keep his mouth shut big time.

so instead of kick start to their season...it should now b kick start to countdown the days remaining for him as the manager. as much as i like his approach to the game last season, this season proves that the task is too big for him, or that his head has swollen too big for his own good. he must hv thought that he has the magic touch to make the team finish 2nd last season.

so instead of kick start to their season...it should now b kick start to countdown the days remaining for him as the manager. as much as i like his approach to the game last season, this season proves that the task is too big for him, or that his head has swollen too big for his own good. he must hv thought that he has the magic touch to make the team finish 2nd last season.

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How to kick start to their season if you are the manager�who choose to do nothing when�seeing your players keep passing the ball backward (especially GJ) instead of going forward [shakehead]

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How to kick start to their season if you are the manager�who choose to do nothing when�seeing your players keep passing the ball backward (especially GJ) instead of going forward

i used to like GJ, always tot he can play RW.

but even last year, his performance does not justify him starting.

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However with regards to your comment on GJ passing backward, maybe it is the only choice he has.. becos we have become so static, pass it for shite from the 1/2 way line back to goalie, then lose possession cos mignolet simply cannot kick a ball

so instead of kick start to their season...it should now b kick start to countdown the days remaining for him as the manager. as much as i like his approach to the game last season, this season proves that the task is too big for him, or that his head has swollen too big for his own good. he must hv thought that he has the magic touch to make the team finish 2nd last season.

he thinks he's magic.

me thinks Suarez = 2 WC players on pitch. world class in the will to win, and WC in his football

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Markovic better come good...

i used to like GJ, always tot he can play RW.

but even last year, his performance does not justify him starting.

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However with regards to your comment on GJ passing backward, maybe it is the only choice he has.. becos we have become so static, pass it for shite from the 1/2 way line back to goalie, then lose possession cos mignolet simply cannot kick a ball

he thinks he's magic.

me thinks Suarez = 2 WC players on pitch. world class in the will to win, and WC in his football

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Markovic better come good...

we had been doing a lot of this for this season.. its simply atrocious.

Happy birthday Patrik Berger

Happy birthday Patrik Berger

Talking about Berger, who is going for the Liverpool legend match this Saturday at Jalan besar?

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Now weekdays the posting rate has dropped a lot. Cos simply we are in a funk and no sign of improvement. So haha everybody also sianz ji pua.

No lah was busy and hardly had time to post...
just read n encourage by giving pts lol

I am getting sick of reading players say how they will turn around after each defeat...can they just stop it, it is starting to become unbelievable. Just shut up and play, show us the result...we don't need to read every week how you will turn around in the next game.

If only FSG ask BR.... "Why I Paid a $25 million Pound To Sit On A Bench" and a "$16 million Pound Running Into Offsides Most Of The Time" ... [grin]

If only FSG ask BR.... "Why I Paid a $25 million Pound To Sit On A Bench" and a "$16 million Pound Running Into Offsides Most Of The Time" ...

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Surprisingly, didn't hear much or any from FSG ...

Are they still owning Liverpool?

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Can't find a businessman that really love Pool ...

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Surprisingly, didn't hear much or any from FSG ...
Are they still owning Liverpool?
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Can't find a businessman that really love Pool ...

Maybe they searching for new manager secretly.
Wonder if we can hire klinsman

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Surprisingly, didn't hear much or any from FSG ...

Are they still owning Liverpool?

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Can't find a businessman that really love Pool ...

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Peter Lim?�

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Peter Lim?�

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Perter Lim is a ManU fan hor. Plus he already bought Valencia�

If only FSG ask BR.... "Why I Paid a $25 million Pound To Sit On A Bench" and a "$16 million Pound Running Into Offsides Most Of The Time" ...

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BR will say " look at Henderson"

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Peter Lim?�

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Peter Lim got enough $ or not... and he is a ManU fan lah...

Don't want him

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Martin Odegaard (15) to visit Liverpool�s facilities before Christmas despite Man United, Ajax, & Real Madrid interest [TV 2 Norway]

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Liverpool fans will be excited to hear Martin Odegaard has agreed to visit Liverpool�s facilities before Christmas, according to Norwegian sports channel TV 2.

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15 year old Martin Odegaard is being trailed by almost every top European club, including Manchester United, Chelsea, Man City, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich and Ajax.

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The Norwegian international, currently plying his trade at Stromsgodset, is a Liverpool fan , offering�Brendan Rodgers extra hope of signing him.

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He should come. Pool had many players from Norway.

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Stig Inge Bj�rnebye (92-00, 139-2)
Bj�rn Tore Kvarme (97-99, 45-0)
�yvind Leonardsen (97-99, 37-7)
Vegard Heggem (98-03, 54-3)
John Arne Riise (01-08, 234-21)
Frode Kippe (98-02, 0-0)
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Not sure who Frode Kippe is?

Isn't he from Lord of the Rings?

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Edited by Jamesc, 11 November 2014 - 04:29 PM.

No lah was busy and hardly had time to post...
just read n encourage by giving pts lol

can i swap all my points for pool to add 3 pts into existing table

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Perter Lim is a ManU fan hor. Plus he already bought Valencia�

Peter Lim did approach to buy Liverpool but Liverpool turned him down. This is as far as I can rem from what was reported in the media.

Peter Lim did approach to buy Liverpool but Liverpool turned him down. This is as far as I can rem from what was reported in the media.

you are right..

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but who in the right frame of mind want to sell Liverpool to a self profess man u fan??

I believe you guys have read BR defending the transfer policy of liverpool. He claimed that players do not want to move to liverpool for various reasons and it is not because liverpool did not try to sign established players.

What he failed to mention is maybe these established stars would prefer to play for Jose Mourinho or Arsene Wenger because they are more reputed managers and not you BR. And chances of success is higher under them, other than your so called wages and living lifestyle of the city.

Wat he also failed to realise is that other players, who wouldnt mind coming to pool, were snapped up by other clubs n are doing fantastically well. All the so called unwanted players that pool bought are now struggling. While unknown players like pelle, sakho (west ham..i think thats his name) r doing very very well.

So should the blame go to the buying of players...or rodgers failure to blend them in fast.

Good players is just one piece of the puzzle. The manager's tactic and how he manages them and deploy them is another. Good players who cannot play well together will not produce results. BR cannot run from the responsibility. Result is stating the FACT!

Peter Lim did approach to buy Liverpool but Liverpool turned him down. This is as far as I can rem from what was reported in the media.

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It was not Pool rejected Peter Lim approach.... :huh:

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It was the last�two American owners, Tom & Higgs (forget the name) that sold it to FSG ... :angry:

Edited by Picnic06, 12 November 2014 - 07:14 AM.

I believe you guys have read BR defending the transfer policy of liverpool. He claimed that players do not want to move to liverpool for various reasons and it is not because liverpool did not try to sign established players.

What he failed to mention is maybe these established stars would prefer to play for Jose Mourinho or Arsene Wenger because they are more reputed managers and not you BR. And chances of success is higher under them, other than your so called wages and living lifestyle of the city.

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I believe he have some 'undertable' cash for signing like�$25 million bench warmer and others from a same club .... [lipsrsealed]

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It was not Pool rejected Peter Lim approach....
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It was the last�two American owners, Tom & Higgs (forget the name) that sold it to FSG ... :angry:

Peter lim approach the original pool management. But they don't sell and gave to the two American owner

Fsg wrestle the club from the two goon 1 day before Liverpool gone into administration meaning auto relegation.

To be fair, FSG did invest in Pool, and the Anfield stadium will be expansion soon :)�

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Just that BR has utilised all the sale proceeds from LS sale, on a number of players and NONE of these players have shown any improvement to last year squad !

And BR aren't playing to their strength either....

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So all in, its the fault of BR !!!

To be fair, FSG did invest in Pool, and the Anfield stadium will be expansion soon :)�
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Just that BR has utilised all the sale proceeds from LS sale, on a number of players and NONE of these players have shown any improvement to last year squad !
And BR aren't playing to their strength either....
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So all in, its the fault of BR !!!

Maybe i should send my yrs of playing FM resume to FSG.

Hopefully players out for international duty will do well and gain some confident, indirectly force BR to realise he have not being utilising them to the best of their abilities.

http://www.liverpool...verpool-8097517

One piece of news that everyone is waiting for....

http://www.liverpool...verpool-8097517

One piece of news that everyone is waiting for....

now it becomes when he come back and we still shite! how?

Everyone around me is getting really negative.
Many years ago, I remember watching Rafa's team playing Birmingham and getting a draw. Damn disgusting negative tactics and long ball style.
Liverpool under Roy? Nobody dares to hold the ball.
Kenny's tactics? and really no disrespect to him, brought us back to the medieval age, playing tall and short striker.
We were also quite bad when Brendan first came in.
Remember IPhone 4 cannot see Liverpool coz we were like 16th or 17th?
Then came the 2nd placing where we had joy, tears and screams and sore throats.
Give him another 1 or 2 more seasons.
He has the right ideas.
Don't be a fair weather fan.
As for me, I will support Liverpool and whoever is on board even if they are RELEGATED.
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You may be confusing disappointment over pool's performance with being fair weathered.

quite a good article here

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so does Liverpool always sign bad players, or the players become bad when putting on the red jersey?

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http://www.espnfc.co...transfer-market

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Liverpool's plight a result of their shocking failure in the transfer market

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Former Liverpool player Robbie Fowler defended Brendan Rodgers after their poor start to the season while Steve McManaman felt Mario Balotelli must do better.

Liverpool's overall record in the transfer market during the Premier League era really doesn't make for pleasant reading. Hundreds of millions of pounds have been squandered in a vain attempt to re-establish the Reds as the major force they once were and that ineptitude in the transfer market is the single biggest reason for their failure to win a league title since 1990.

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Graeme Souness set the ball rolling by blowing millions on Paul Stewart, Julian Dicks, Dean Saunders, Torben Piechnik and others. Poor signings led to the poor results that cost him his job. Roy Evans took over from the Scot but fared little better; buying the likes of Oyvind Leonhardsen, Phil Babb, Bjorn Tore Kvarme and Sean Dundee. Liverpool went close to the title under Evans but failure to add the players who could make the difference proved to be the downfall of the popular Scouser.

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Next up was Gerard Houllier, who ultimately lost his job because El Hadji Diouf, Salif Diao and Bruno Cheyrou flopped spectacularly. Rafa Benitez enjoyed early success but mediocrity followed, with millions wasted on Robbie Keane, Alberto Aquilani, Andrea Dossena and others.

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Yet among all the misses there were still plenty of hits. Souness signed Mark Wright and Rob Jones while Evans recruited Patrik Berger, Danny Murphy and Stan Collymore. Houllier's success was based on signings such as Sami Hyypia, Stephane Henchoz, Didi Hamann, Gary McAllister and others, while Benitez can point to Xabi Alonso, Javier Mascherano and Fernando Torres as examples of spectacularly good signings he made. As for Roy Hodgson ... well, let's not talk about that.

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But by and large, you'd have to say that Liverpool have had far more misses than hits when signing players and -- worryingly for Kopites -- the strike rate appears to have gotten significantly worse since Fenway Sports Group bought the club. They initially hired Damien Comolli as a director of football to work with manager Kenny Dalglish before firing both for poor results. Comolli claimed last week that it was the signing of Jordan Henderson that got him the sack. Nothing to do with the 60 million (and then some) wasted on Andy Carroll, Stewart Downing, Charlie Adam, then? OK.

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The Frenchman was replaced by this much vaunted transfer committee consisting of Brendan Rodgers, managing director Ian Ayre, head of recruitment Dave Fallows and director of technical performance Michael Edwards. If anything, they've been even worse; at least Comolli can say that Luis Suarez was signed on his watch. The current regime have been dining out on the signings of Daniel Sturridge and Philippe Coutinho for nearly two years now.

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Even last year, when Liverpool went closer than ever to ending their title drought, it was in spite of what they'd done the previous summer rather than because of it. Aly Cissokho, Victor Moses, Iago Aspas and Luis Alberto were all shipped out within a year, Tiago Ilori has spent two seasons out on loan, Kolo Toure has generally been fourth choice, and Mamadou Sakho has been largely disappointing despite a fine pedigree and big reputation.

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The likes of Aspas and Alberto were gambles that didn't pay off, but Sakho should have been risk-free, given his proven quality. Goalkeeper Simon Mignolet has been a mainstay of the team at least, even if he has been far from convincing and rumours persist that Rodgers is looking to replace him.

Just why have Liverpool been so poor for so long in the transfer market, though? In some cases, the players were just not very good to begin with, but more often than not the problem has been that for whatever reason, Liverpool seem to have this uncanny knack of making good players look bad. From Fernando Morientes to Rickie Lambert, Nigel Clough to Joe Cole, Sebastian Coates to Dejan Lovren, players who looked the part elsewhere have struggled to reproduce that form on Merseyside.

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It's rare that Liverpool sign bad players; most of the time they just become bad when they pull on the red shirt. Even Milan Jovanovic looked decent before joining Liverpool, yet one season at Anfield turned him into a laughingstock. Don't believe me? The top search result for him on YouTube is a comical failed diving header attempt against Arsenal.

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This year, the problem has been more evident than ever. Whether the players signed during the summer were good enough for a club with Liverpool's ambitions is certainly debatable. Whether they are better than they have shown so far is not. Take Lambert, for example. Despite spending his entire career in the lower leagues, he impressed everybody in his two seasons at Premier League-level with Southampton and even became a regular on the England squad. He's clearly a good player who can score and create goals, yet he has looked about as comfortable as an elephant on a bicycle since moving to Liverpool.

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Rodgers doesn't need him to be Ian Rush, he only needed him to be the player he was at Southampton. Perhaps starting him more instead of sending him on as a last throw of the dice when the team is losing would help him regain some form but there is no guarantee of that.

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Lazar Markovic cost 20 million pounds and was billed as one of the brightest young talents in European football. It's far too early to render definitive judgment on him, but he does look like a little boy lost. Some players take time to settle but usually they'll show something. Has Markovic done anything of note at all?

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Mario Balotelli is another, but so much has been written about the Italian I have no wish to add to it, other than to say you don't play for Inter, AC Milan, Manchester City and Italy if you're useless. Yet that's exactly how Balotelli has looked since moving to Liverpool. Then there's Lovren. How can he go from being so commanding for Southampton and Croatia to the complete mess we've seen this season?

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If this were just a recent thing, it could be placed on the shoulders of Rodgers, but this has been Liverpool's Achilles' heel for 25 years now. Just what is it about LFC that impacts certain players' performances so negatively? Is it the "weight of the shirt," as Rodgers often likes to say, or is it simply a case that they sign talented players who just are not a good fit for how the team plays?

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Liverpool need to find the answer soon; this squandering of hundreds of millions of pounds has to stop if they are ever to become genuine challengers again. It's not just about signing good players -- it's about signing the right players

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so does Liverpool always sign bad players, or the players become bad when putting on the red jersey?

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if nobody has the answers to this all these years, my only guess is that in the 70s-80s, pool used up all the luck they had for many more years (decades now) when they were so successful...

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but this one not scientific at all, so i'm still waiting for a specific reason, and hopefully, also see the solution...

We�should get the Southampton�Head Scout

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They keep finding players like Bale, Walcott, Lallana,�Jay Rodriguez and Morgan Schneiderlin.

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The other really good scout is Newcastle's Graham Carr. He bought Hatem Ben Arfa, Cheick Tiote,

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Yohan Cabaye, Papiss Cisse and Sylvain Marveaux��

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He must be an expert on French players.

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if nobody has the answers to this all these years, my only guess is that in the 70s-80s, pool used up all the luck they had for many more years (decades now) when they were so successful...
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but this one not scientific at all, so i'm still waiting for a specific reason, and hopefully, also see the solution...

Answer is tactic. And how u play them.

Answer is tactic. And how u play them.

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in my short years of watching them play, i think the most tactical(and analyse the opponents to death and rotation of squad till luan) manager from 1990- present..

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Rafa must be #1 ...

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but most succesful(trophy wise) should be Gerrard Houllier.. though he played quite defensively.. on the counter only...

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please correct me if i mistaken..

Edited by Mrmilktooth, 13 November 2014 - 10:36 AM.

Everyone around me is getting really negative.
Many years ago, I remember watching Rafa's team playing Birmingham and getting a draw. Damn disgusting negative tactics and long ball style.
Liverpool under Roy? Nobody dares to hold the ball.
Kenny's tactics? and really no disrespect to him, brought us back to the medieval age, playing tall and short striker.
We were also quite bad when Brendan first came in.
Remember IPhone 4 cannot see Liverpool coz we were like 16th or 17th?
Then came the 2nd placing where we had joy, tears and screams and sore throats.
Give him another 1 or 2 more seasons.
He has the right ideas.
Don't be a fair weather fan.
As for me, I will support Liverpool and whoever is on board even if they are RELEGATED.
YWNA

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Yeah... some of the games under KD, RB, GH were complete rubbish.

As bad or worse than now. But we still had a better defence then lol� [laugh] � [laugh]

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in my short years of watching them play, i think the most tactical(and analyse the opponents to death and rotation of squad till luan) manager from 1990- present..
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Rafa must be #1 ...
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but most succesful(trophy wise) should be Gerrard Houllier.. though he played quite defensively.. on the counter only...
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please correct me if i mistaken..

Most successful very subjective..
In term of cup win Gh.
Intern of prestige RB

No definite answer on who is better..

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Yeah... some of the games under KD, RB, GH were complete rubbish.
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Sometime they do have to answer Singaporean call. [sly]

The difference between a title winning team and a mid table team

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is the quality of the strikers. When we were winning in the 80s

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our front 3 were Barnes, Beardsley and Rush.

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Before that Dalgliesh and Rush and Toshack and Keegan.

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Last year we had Suarez, Sterling and Sturridge.

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To win the league we need 3 world class players

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and a good defence. In 2009 we had a really good defence

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but only 2 world class players - Gerrard and Torres.

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To win the league we need 3 world class players

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and a good defence. In 2009 we had a really good defence

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but only 2 world class players - Gerrard and Torres.

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We had alonso and masch. Without alonso transiting the ball out to attack so fast. Gerrard and Torres would have not been so prolific.�

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As Alonso and masch have shown, they were already world class players then. Just not at the level of superstars.�

Edited by Lala81, 13 November 2014 - 11:05 AM.

Most successful very subjective..
In term of cup win Gh.
Intern of prestige RB

No definite answer on who is better..

Sometime they do have to answer Singaporean call.

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maybe if BR continues to flounder this season and next, maybe can ask rafa back..

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anyway just like moaner.. perhaps the 2nd time will be better.. [grin]

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as always have to keep supporting the club... no matter how good or bad they are playing..

Anyway for those mentioning a return to RB.

Enrique Barcelona is doing what RB did before...

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http://www.espnfc.co...ys-at-barcelona

Edited by Lala81, 13 November 2014 - 11:17 AM.

Utd wants to sell Juan Mata for 20m

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I hope we buy him. PSG might also sell

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Yohan Cabaye for 20 million and if he is availble

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we should buy him too. Both proven PL players.

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Anyway for those mentioning a return to RB.
Enrique Barcelona is doing what RB did before...
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http://www.espnfc.co...ys-at-barcelona

Barca is a aging club... Their midfield all so old liao. Next wave sold to man city

Utd wants to sell Juan Mata for 20m

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I hope we buy him. PSG might also sell

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Yohan Cabaye for 20 million and if he is availble

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sigh� now cannot be sure anymore leh...

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lambert, lallana, lovren, the LLLs from soton were also proven PL players. what's of them now at pool?

mignolet quite proven, sterling last season also proven, skrtel last time also proven, lucas was proven, balo looked proven at man city (except cannot wear the blip), henderson last 2 seasons quite proven. Not even including johnson and SG, proven but old now...

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the article said we have a real problem of turning good players into average (or worse, very bad) ones. So must find solution to that...

Utd wants to sell Juan Mata for 20m
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I hope we buy him. PSG might also sell
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Yohan Cabaye for 20 million and if he is availble
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we should buy him too. Both proven PL players.
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How much is SG worth? How much can we get for him?

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sigh now cannot be sure anymore leh...
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lambert, lallana, lovren, the LLLs from soton were also proven PL players. what's of them now at pool?
mignolet quite proven, sterling last season also proven, skrtel last time also proven, lucas was proven, I balo looked proven at man city (except cannot wear the blip), henderson last 2 seasons quite proven. Not even including johnson and SG, proven but old now...
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the article said we have a real problem of turning good players into average (or worse, very bad) ones. So must find solution to that...

All proven and still forming one is usually on bench or worse reserve. First xi one a lot until now not as good as those reserve and bench but always first team.
Like this we can know why Liverpool so Jia lat.

Great article why uncle is looking so CMI this year.

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http://grantland.com...ng-midfielders/

How much is SG worth? How much can we get for him?

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The last time Chelsea wanted to sign him when JM was in charge the first time

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maybe 30 - 35m. Now at his age and with his contract about 1 year left not very much.

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And shows that Yaya still can play on while uncle is better used as purely a sub from now on.

midfield sibei overload.

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unless BR wanna play 361 formation? lol

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sigh� now cannot be sure anymore leh...

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lambert, lallana, lovren, the LLLs from soton were also proven PL players. what's of them now at pool?

mignolet quite proven, sterling last season also proven, skrtel last time also proven, lucas was proven, balo looked proven at man city (except cannot wear the blip), henderson last 2 seasons quite proven. Not even including johnson and SG, proven but old now...

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the article said we have a real problem of turning good players into average (or worse, very bad) ones. So must find solution to that...

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midfield sibei overload.

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unless BR wanna play 361 formation? lol

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Maybe.. just maybe.. if only BR can "rest" SG, then probably our team can feel rejuvenated and play freely :))

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And if DS come back next Saturday, and yet Pool can't win or can't play freely to score, then problem don't lie on the team liao.... its just BR's tactics liao

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Maybe.. just maybe.. if only BR can "rest" SG, then probably our team can feel rejuvenated and play freely :))
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And if DS come back next Saturday, and yet Pool can't win or can't play freely to score, then problem don't lie on the team liao.... its just BR's tactics liao

It's not maybe. Against real we know they actually play better with reserve squad when we take out SG.

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Maybe.. just maybe.. if only BR can "rest" SG, then probably our team can feel rejuvenated and play freely :))

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And if DS come back next Saturday, and yet Pool can't win or can't play freely to score, then problem don't lie on the team liao.... its just BR's tactics liao

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managerial tactics play a impt roles.

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a team can perform beyond the sum of their parts due to a good manager. like martinez's everton last season.�

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or�

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die like manure under moyes.�

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a good manager varies his style to suit his team and opponent.�

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managerial tactics play a impt roles.

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a team can perform beyond the sum of their parts due to a good manager. like martinez's everton last season.�

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or�

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die like manure under moyes.�

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a good manager varies his style to suit his team and opponent.�

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One day i want to watch a manager like SAF or Jose be pundits on Football channel and really give a live commentary on what are the weaknesses and how they would exploit it.

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I would pay money to watch that ...

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Haven't watched Mio/Starhub for a while, but the only person who remotely interested me with his comments previously was Alan curbishley.

The other ex-managers like Glenn hoddle/Gullitt etc all seem to be talking nonsense half the time. Many of the ex-players don't seem to be able to explain the decisions that should be made as well.

Other than Gary Neville.

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One day i want to watch a manager like SAF or Jose be pundits on Football channel and really give a live commentary on what are the weaknesses and how they would exploit it.

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I would pay money to watch that ...

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Haven't watched Mio/Starhub for a while, but the only person who remotely interested me with his comments previously was Alan curbishley.

The other ex-managers like Glenn hoddle/Gullitt etc all seem to be talking nonsense half the time. Many of the ex-players don't seem to be able to explain the decisions that should be made as well.

Other than Gary Neville.

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i think gary neville talk nonsense leh.

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i found redknapp quite insightful actually

i will agree curbishley is quite gd as pundit. even when he was a manager i find him not too bad. dunno y he not managing now.

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i think gary neville talk nonsense leh.

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i found redknapp quite insightful actually

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I never really watched one with redknapp.

Now i only listen to russian commentary LOL� [thumbsdown] � :huh:

i will agree curbishley is quite gd as pundit. even when he was a manager i find him not too bad. dunno y he not managing now.

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Haha he always gets a lot of stick when he's managing Charlton.

He's like Moyes but even more conservative.

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One day i want to watch a manager like SAF or Jose be pundits on Football channel and really give a live commentary on what are the weaknesses and how they would exploit it.
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I would pay money to watch that ...
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Haven't watched Mio/Starhub for a while, but the only person who remotely interested me with his comments previously was Alan curbishley.
The other ex-managers like Glenn hoddle/Gullitt etc all seem to be talking nonsense half the time. Many of the ex-players don't seem to be able to explain the decisions that should be made as well.
Other than Gary Neville.

Pundit will be pundit. One person take rubbish role. One person entertain and another one be tactically correct..

Everyone around me is getting really negative.
Many years ago, I remember watching Rafa's team playing Birmingham and getting a draw. Damn disgusting negative tactics and long ball style.
Liverpool under Roy? Nobody dares to hold the ball.
Kenny's tactics? and really no disrespect to him, brought us back to the medieval age, playing tall and short striker.
We were also quite bad when Brendan first came in.
Remember IPhone 4 cannot see Liverpool coz we were like 16th or 17th?
Then came the 2nd placing where we had joy, tears and screams and sore throats.
Give him another 1 or 2 more seasons.
He has the right ideas.
Don't be a fair weather fan.
As for me, I will support Liverpool and whoever is on board even if they are RELEGATED.
YWNA

Nobody here are fair weather fan. We are liverpool supporters, not fan. I am very sure all of us, including you will continue to support even if Liverpool is relegated. Whoever is the manager, we will support. But we will not blindly support.

I started watching football in 82, World Cup was my first real football tournament to follow. And then after that I watch big league soccer every Sunday. If I am not wrong Brian Moore was the host. Every Sunday there will be one feature match and usually there is a couple of red colour jersey team feature prominently but at that time I don't know what is the name of the team. But I do remember they play very nice football. Of course at that time there are actually 2 major red teams in liverpool and man utd who are playing very nice football but I was too young to really know who is who and I could possibly mixed them up. But later When I really start to differentiate and feel more affinity towards Liverpool and realised is liverpool was the highlight clip in which frank mcavennie of west ham scored a fantastic goal against Liverpool. It helped me to recognise and differentiate liverpool from man utd because the clip keep repeating whenever the show appear. And of course later I "realised" man utd wear white shorts.

I really become liverpool supporter is after I watched the 1985 European cup final. I was really very disappointed with the Liverpool supporters who were partly responsible for the heysel disaster. Liverpool is one of the best team in the world playing fantastic football and these supporters really let the club down and spoil the reputation of the club. I think liverpool should more supporters like me who will appreciate their good football.

We chinese know what karma is and true enough, hillsborough disaster happened. Just like the European cup final, I was watching the match live and watch the whole thing unfold. My reaction was exactly the same as Kenny. From the TV screen I can see him thinking "what the hell happen again, liverpool supporters rioting again?"

I agree with atrecord's post, except that the luck we used up is not because we were too successful, is because of what the supporters did in the past and now we have to pay for their sins and therefore luck is no longer on our side.

The champions league win in 2005 was somehow a closure to 1985. If the Liverpool supporters did not riot, liverpool would have beat juventus and continue the dominance in Europe and domestic. I very sure of that.

Criticism on BR is definitely not a sign that we are fair weather. He has the right ideas but he is very naive. And liverpool is not suitable for up and coming manager to use as a training ground. And I beginning to think he is very stubborn and don't want to change his approach. Managers can only be given the right to be stubborn is when they have been successful before. Proven record mah. Methods work mah. And I refer successful to be winning trophies. Major trophies like league titles, European trophies. BR? Knn never win a trophy before yet want to be so stubborn with his approach.

No doubt 2nd season was very good. But during the run in, it also highlighted the defensive lapse. A top team can never be successful with that. So like I said before, I didn't post about the defensive problem because I also want that league very much and I don't want to jinx it all. I just want to to keep my finger cross every week, let my heart pump faster and suffer heart attack and ignore the negatives.

I don't mind BR let me eat my own words and prove me wrong. Because if he does he will make a lot of us very happy.

Nobody here are fair weather fan. We are liverpool supporters, not fan. I am very sure all of us, including you will continue to support even if Liverpool is relegated. Whoever is the manager, we will support. But we will not blindly support.

I started watching football in 82, World Cup was my first real football tournament to follow. And then after that I watch big league soccer every Sunday. If I am not wrong Brian Moore was the host. Every Sunday there will be one feature match and usually there is a couple of red colour jersey team feature prominently but at that time I don't know what is the name of the team. But I do remember they play very nice football. Of course at that time there are actually 2 major red teams in liverpool and man utd who are playing very nice football but I was too young to really know who is who and I could possibly mixed them up. But later When I really start to differentiate and feel more affinity towards Liverpool and realised is liverpool was the highlight clip in which frank mcavennie of west ham scored a fantastic goal against Liverpool. It helped me to recognise and differentiate liverpool from man utd because the clip keep repeating whenever the show appear. And of course later I "realised" man utd wear white shorts.

I really become liverpool supporter is after I watched the 1985 European cup final. I was really very disappointed with the Liverpool supporters who were partly responsible for the heysel disaster. Liverpool is one of the best team in the world playing fantastic football and these supporters really let the club down and spoil the reputation of the club. I think liverpool should more supporters like me who will appreciate their good football.

We chinese know what karma is and true enough, hillsborough disaster happened. Just like the European cup final, I was watching the match live and watch the whole thing unfold. My reaction was exactly the same as Kenny. From the TV screen I can see him thinking "what the hell happen again, liverpool supporters rioting again?"

I agree with atrecord's post, except that the luck we used up is not because we were too successful, is because of what the supporters did in the past and now we have to pay for their sins and therefore luck is no longer on our side.

The champions league win in 2005 was somehow a closure to 1985. If the Liverpool supporters did not riot, liverpool would have beat juventus and continue the dominance in Europe and domestic. I very sure of that.

Criticism on BR is definitely not a sign that we are fair weather. He has the right ideas but he is very naive. And liverpool is not suitable for up and coming manager to use as a training ground. And I beginning to think he is very stubborn and don't want to change his approach. Managers can only be given the right to be stubborn is when they have been successful before. Proven record mah. Methods work mah. And I refer successful to be winning trophies. Major trophies like league titles, European trophies. BR? Knn never win a trophy before yet want to be so stubborn with his approach.

No doubt 2nd season was very good. But during the run in, it also highlighted the defensive lapse. A top team can never be successful with that. So like I said before, I didn't post about the defensive problem because I also want that league very much and I don't want to jinx it all. I just want to to keep my finger cross every week, let my heart pump faster and suffer heart attack and ignore the negatives.

I don't mind BR let me eat my own words and prove me wrong. Because if he does he will make a lot of us very happy.

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Your words sum up almost of all Pool supporters :))

Either BR wakes up immediately or we hope there is a better manager that comes volunteering in :)

Thierry henry was sold because he started hampering the team's play

But it takes a brave man to sell the club's favourite player

Tactics are sometimes over rated.

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The reason we came in 2nd last year is Luis Suarez.

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The reason Spurs came in 4th a few years ago is Gareth Bale.

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The reason Utd won a few League titles is Ronaldo.

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The reason Madrid are champions of Europe is

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a whole galaxy of super stars. Anyone of them�

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can change a game at anytime.

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How much is SG worth? How much can we get for him?

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Nooo... hope Liverpool can keep him until he retires

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you dun see many loyal one-club man nowadays

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let him phase out slowly... just like Barca's Puyol and Xavi

i think i will bet money against liverpool every game

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if pool lose, at least can make some money

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if pool win, also happy

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otherwise, every week only feel damn SAS (sian and sad)

i think i will bet money against liverpool every game
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if pool lose, at least can make some money
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if pool win, also happy
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otherwise, every week only feel damn SAS (sian and sad)

Then must hope u lose alot, pls bet small. Sturridge coming back hopefully he will partner balo milo boy

Tactics are sometimes over rated.

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The reason we came in 2nd last year is Luis Suarez.

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The reason Spurs came in 4th a few years ago is Gareth Bale.

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The reason Utd won a few League titles is Ronaldo.

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The reason Madrid are champions of Europe is

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a whole galaxy of super stars. Anyone of them�

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can change a game at anytime.

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Freaking true

We need stars players !!!

But looking at it now, don't think any star player will come to UK, let alone Pool...

All want to play in La Liga...

i think i will bet money against liverpool every game

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if pool lose, at least can make some money

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if pool win, also happy

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otherwise, every week only feel damn SAS (sian and sad)

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This was also what i thought 2 seasons ago. Guess we are back to square one.

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This was also what i thought 2 seasons ago. Guess we are back to square one.

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so how much money you made over that season?� [laugh]

i think i will bet money against liverpool every game

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if pool lose, at least can make some money

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if pool win, also happy

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otherwise, every week only feel damn SAS (sian and sad)

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knew of someone who did that for past few seasons. Last season, first time he lost money but he damn happy at losing money

Tactics are sometimes over rated.
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The reason we came in 2nd last year is Luis Suarez.
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The reason Spurs came in 4th a few years ago is Gareth Bale.
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The reason Utd won a few League titles is Ronaldo.
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The reason Madrid are champions of Europe is
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a whole galaxy of super stars. Anyone of them�
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can change a game at anytime.
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When Marid have the biggest biggest star in the history of soccer.. They win nothing.

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so how much money you made over that season?�

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Haha....like i said it was an *idea* i had. Idea means did not execute it...just a thought only...

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Now I know why Pool paid 25 million for Lallana.

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If only there was a table and side wall on the football pitch

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Lallana would be scoring loads of goals and Liverpool

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would be doing so much better.

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i think i will bet money against liverpool every game

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if pool lose, at least can make some money

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if pool win, also happy

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otherwise, every week only feel damn SAS (sian and sad)

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that's what i do for manure. lol.

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Now I know why Pool paid 25 million for Lallana.

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If only there was a table and side wall on the football pitch

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Lallana would be scoring loads of goals and Liverpool

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would be doing so much better.

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i think probably some CGI bah.

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i really doubt its real.

Any links to watch the live game tonite - Castlewood Masters?

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Ex Reds vs Singapore veterans

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Legends shine in Singapore victory
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A Liverpool legends team produced a fitting performance to seal a 3-1 victory over a Singapore Masters side in an enjoyable 70-minute contest at the Jalan Besar Stadium on Saturday.

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Strikes by Emile Heskey and Jari Litmanen sandwiched an own goal to provide a cushion for the group of former stars and fan favourites, with a late conversion by the local XI proving mere consolation.

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A pre-match downpour forced a delay in kick-off of 30 minutes, but the spirits of the local Liverpool fans were not dampened in the slightest - as evidenced by their loud rendition of 'You'll Never Walk Alone' once the action eventually began.

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The Reds' first chance arrived almost immediately but Heskey could only redirect Robbie Fowler's accurate cross from the left wide when he attempted to head into the bottom corner from eight yards out.

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Jan Kromkamp soon worked the goalkeeper with a drive from a narrow angle on the right while the travelling legends asserted their dominance, in large part due to the control and calm of Patrik Berger and Steve McManaman in midfield.

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That told on 10 minutes, when Fowler took advantage of the freedom to pick a pass and slid a precise assist into Heskey at the edge of the penalty area. The 36-year-old took a touch and lashed high into the net for 1-0.

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Player-manager Ian Rush's team had a pleasing balance - strong in the tackle and subtle on the ball - and the advantage was quickly doubled via an own goal forced by a lofted Litmanen cross towards the back post that the defender could not deal with.

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Heskey blasts legends ahead

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Own goal doubles legends' lead

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When the two sides returned for the second period, Fowler stung the palms of the 'keeper when he collected a Litmanen tee-up, the latest in a series of sublime contributions by the Finn, on the left flank and drilled at the far corner.

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Goalline technology would have been helpful in the 39th minute. Heskey's blast along the six-yard box fell to David Thompson with half of the net to aim at, only for the hosts' custodian to get his body in the way and prevent a third.

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It was 3-0 with 47 minutes on the clock, though, and courtesy of the game's finest moment. A centre was dummied by Dietmar Hamann and Litmanen took charge, dinking a delightful lob over everybody and home with trademark aplomb.

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Berger should have made it four when he ran along the left channel past defence and 'keeper but sent his effort onto the post, while Jerzy Dudek denied Aleksandar Duric's smash at the near post as Singapore searched for a consolation.

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They achieved it in the closing stages too, with Rafi Ali the goalscorer through a well-placed header past the reach of Dudek - the final addition to the scoresheet on an entertaining occasion in the Far East.

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Liverpool starting XI:�Dudek, Kromkamp, Kvarme, Babb, Harkness, Thompson, Berger, McManaman, Fowler, Litmanen, Heskey.�Substitutes:Rush, Hamann, Henchoz, Thomas.

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Edited by Jamesc, 15 November 2014 - 09:31 PM.

Latest reports seems to be that MB45 have pulled out of the Italian Squad due injury.

Haha,own goal specialist Lim Tong Hai at his own-goal best again

DS injured again .... kao !!!

Looks like BR will have the same excuse that he is derived of his attacking options liao...

DS injured again .... kao !!!

Looks like BR will have the same excuse that he is derived of his attacking options liao...

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Wish he will just shut up.

DS injured again .... kao !!!
Looks like BR will have the same excuse that he is derived of his attacking options liao...

Maybe BR know with DS back also same so he tell him to be injure somemore

fark man !!! made of glass ah ??� [dizzy]

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that's it, our last semblance of hope gone ...... can pack up and prepare for next season.....�

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Poll : Will Balo be sold then ? ha ha�

Somehow, I really hope this season can end as fast as possible...
Can end this week?

Our buys are not playing to full potential, our strikers.... Sigh...

How I wish we can reset back time...

Somehow, I really hope this season can end as fast as possible...
Can end this week?

Our buys are not playing to full potential, our strikers.... Sigh...

How I wish we can reset back time...

That will be 30 years reset leh.

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