$1800+ is before or after NCD and SDD?
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After the discounts. I think there may be different rates for different categories of drivers. I mentioned this so as to give some relativity in the numbers. Some drivers may pay more, some less.
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Edited by kermitfm, 01 August 2016 - 03:07 PM.
After the discounts. I think there may be different rates for different categories of drivers. I mentioned this so as to give some relativity in the numbers. Some drivers may pay more, some less.
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I took a peak at qq thread and the bros there are putting stuff to squeeze more juice out of the 1.2t engine. When I bought my fxt, the qq1.2 was like 12k cheaper. After I did a test drive on the qq with my wife, the se and myself, I was quite convinced that the qq can't meet my needs. Fna was a much better choice compared to qq1.2. I really dun understand y so many ppl go buy vezel and qq over forester. Sat in my colleague's vezel the day and I open the back door and found that the opening was quite small. End up almost hitting my head when I got in. Wasn't a very pleasant ride, as I could hear the engine struggling trying to carry 4 of us with me at the back. Ride comfort and noise insulation also typical Honda, 'sporty' feeling. But I figured that most ppl placed high priority on exterior design and resale value. Subaru cars dun have good resale value in our local market unfortunately.Both NA and turbo foresters are fine... Better than compare compare them get Vezel instead.. Which on overall pricing and FC point of view still ok... But who is go Qhasqhai 1.2turbo will be damn funny
Edited by mrhan1982, 01 August 2016 - 07:07 PM.
I am happy that at least the Forester is not another 'Altis' or 'Vezel' on the road.
It's getting there
I took a peak at qq thread and the bros there are putting stuff to squeeze more juice out of the 1.2t engine. When I bought my fxt, the qq1.2 was like 12k cheaper. After I did a test drive on the qq with my wife, the se and myself, I was quite convinced that the qq can't meet my needs. Fna was a much better choice compared to qq1.2. I really dun understand y so many ppl go buy vezel and qq over forester. Sat in my colleague's vezel the day and I open the back door and found that the opening was quite small. End up almost hitting my head when I got in. Wasn't a very pleasant ride, as I could hear the engine struggling trying to carry 4 of us with me at the back. Ride comfort and noise insulation also typical Honda, 'sporty' feeling. But I figured that most ppl placed high priority on exterior design and resale value. Subaru cars dun have good resale value in our local market unfortunately.
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I agree... Vezel in particular is claustrophobic for me... small legroom/boot space and lack of power when loaded.�
But then QQ or Vezel cannot be compared with Foresters. A more suitable comparison will be XV, ASX..etc�
Ha..i was stunned..Subaru really that bad?? No resale value and no one in Singapore buy Subaru???
What do you guys think?
Today, an office auntie saw that i bought a new FXT..she says "aiyo why u buy a subaru? Subaru got no resale value..no one in Singapore buy Subaru and you go buy?"
Ha..i was stunned..Subaru really that bad?? No resale value and no one in Singapore buy Subaru???
What do you guys think?
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Personally i buy car to drive... not to resell. If want to resell, there are other things better to buy (aka watches, wine..etc) lol...
You are right. We want to buy cheap and want higher resale value. If Subaru command same premium as Toyota, I doubt you can get it at such price level. Think hard about it. At times, it is not the brand but the styling of the new model and how popular it can attract potential new customer to switch.Personally i buy car to drive... not to resell. If want to resell, there are other things better to buy (aka watches, wine..etc) lol...
Today, an office auntie saw that i bought a new FXT..she says "aiyo why u buy a subaru? Subaru got no resale value..no one in Singapore buy Subaru and you go buy?"
Ha..i was stunned..Subaru really that bad?? No resale value and no one in Singapore buy Subaru???
What do you guys think?
Drive 10 years and scrap it. Why care for resale value?
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Subaru boxer engine has higher maintenance cost compare to in-line engine.
I think this the main reason why most people avoid Subaru.
Today, an office auntie saw that i bought a new FXT..she says "aiyo why u buy a subaru? Subaru got no resale value..no one in Singapore buy Subaru and you go buy?"
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If you can afford a 100k car, surely, you have more confidence in your judgement than that.�
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You only need to look at the resale/scrap market now to realize that paying a premium/compromising of specification for the sake of the Toyota/Honda badge only reaps you mere hundreds of dollars' difference in body value years down the road.�
Personally i buy car to drive... not to resell. If want to resell, there are other things better to buy (aka watches, wine..etc) lol...
I will not have the same fun if I will to buy a Harrier instead of the XT.
Shud instead ask office Aunty.. You drive what car?Today, an office auntie saw that i bought a new FXT..she says "aiyo why u buy a subaru? Subaru got no resale value..no one in Singapore buy Subaru and you go buy?"
Ha..i was stunned..Subaru really that bad?? No resale value and no one in Singapore buy Subaru???
What do you guys think?
I think Subaru buyer is a different breed n more Sophisticated :)Today, an office auntie saw that i bought a new FXT..she says "aiyo why u buy a subaru? Subaru got no resale value..no one in Singapore buy Subaru and you go buy?"
Ha..i was stunned..Subaru really that bad?? No resale value and no one in Singapore buy Subaru???
What do you guys think?
Edited by GoodCar, 01 August 2016 - 11:38 PM.
Edited by Terenceleo, 01 August 2016 - 11:47 PM.
Who ever makes life decisions based on a office aunty's opinion???Today, an office auntie saw that i bought a new FXT..she says "aiyo why u buy a subaru? Subaru got no resale value..no one in Singapore buy Subaru and you go buy?"
Ha..i was stunned..Subaru really that bad?? No resale value and no one in Singapore buy Subaru???
What do you guys think?
Did u ask the auntie what car she buy and what is she driving now or has driven in the past? Buy car where got listen to auntie one..Today, an office auntie saw that i bought a new FXT..she says "aiyo why u buy a subaru? Subaru got no resale value..no one in Singapore buy Subaru and you go buy?"
Ha..i was stunned..Subaru really that bad?? No resale value and no one in Singapore buy Subaru???
What do you guys think?
Maybe no resale value or have resale value but don't really care Bec resale value is subjective. Assuming 5 years later the Coe remains the same, for the Subaru bought at 125k new, resale maybe 50k. A Honda Vezel at 115k when new, resale value on 5th year maybe 50k also.
I would rather be driving the Forester than the Vezel.. 2 different car, 2 different driving characteristics..Think 10-15k savings over 5 years is not worth the shiokness of driving a mean turbo charge boxer AWD...
Fxt uses high-torque version, similar setup to wrx version. But the whine is obvious as the whole cabin is made more refined haha...got this feeling that fna version is way audibleWhen I test drove the fna, I did notice that it made a little more noise when rev beyond 2k. I dun think this is the cvt whine u r referring to since fxt uses the same cvt gear box. Fxt engine sounds more refine though at all Rev range. I guess the engines have different characteristics that's y they sound different and probably not due to the cvt.
The fxt is great when handling heavier loads such as heavier passengers and stuff. Fna u got tot drive more like a regular family sedan. Overtaking on the fna need a bit more patient especially u r carrying full load of passengers and stuff. U will feel the weight more compared to fxt. Fxt is just simply effortless. :)
not to say the fna is underpowered or slow, but realistically speaking say if u have 4 passengers each weighing 80kg on average and roughly 80kg of stuff in the boot. U r effectively adding 400kg of weight. Adding to the weight of fna, u r pulling close to 2 ton with 150hp and 200nm of torque. I feel it's quite a bit of a struggle. Of course if u seldom carry so much weight like me, then fna should be sufficient. :)
Edited by Terenceleo, 01 August 2016 - 11:59 PM.
Got to get used to the slowness.... The more expensive BMW & Audi and Porsche SUV tailgate closes much faster.. Bopian.. Cheaper car the foresterCan check for the auto tailgate, is there any function or steps where it will autolock the car after it closed? I find the mechanism to be slow...
Harrier good leh... Safe car can't go much faster than 130kmh on NSHW...I will not have the same fun if I will to buy a Harrier instead of the XT.
Subaru buyer typically perceived as Ah Seng... Or fish sellerI think Subaru buyer is a different breed n more Sophisticated :)
So does is it have the autolock function? For scenario where when it rains, all u have to do is push the button and run for the nearest shelter and the car will lock once the tortise tailgate closedGot to get used to the slowness.... The more expensive BMW & Audi and Porsche SUV tailgate closes much faster.. Bopian.. Cheaper car the forester
Auntie ma...my bosses ask me for a ride to compare the power with his 740 and commented ??? lol...I mean, this is a guys thing afterall. RV is subjectiveToday, an office auntie saw that i bought a new FXT..she says "aiyo why u buy a subaru? Subaru got no resale value..no one in Singapore buy Subaru and you go buy?"
Ha..i was stunned..Subaru really that bad?? No resale value and no one in Singapore buy Subaru???
What do you guys think?
Textbook teaching can't change overnight.Engine has run in already. But the rest of the parts are not run-in yet hor.
If engine run in already, why need to service at 5k km?
Must die die follow SOP ma
Textbook teaching can't change overnight.
Must die die follow SOP ma
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You mean AD don't follow Factory SOP?
Engine has run in already.� But the rest of the parts are not run-in yet hor.
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If engine run in already, why need to service at 5k km?
But what other parts that needs run-in too other than the�engine? Anyway, I was close to 1k km when I attended the workshop so should prob have already run in the rest if the parts liao.
But what other parts that needs run-in too other than the�engine? Anyway, I was close to 1k km when I attended the workshop so should prob have already run in the rest if the parts liao.
Your Brake pad and disc are new, need to let them sit in properly, your tires are also brand new, some may still have waxy residue at the side walls.�
But what other parts that needs run-in too other than the�engine? Anyway, I was close to 1k km when I attended the workshop so should prob have already run in the rest if the parts liao.
Better do a run-in for new cars. There is no harm. You won't know if the engine if it was not properly runned-in. The lack of power would not be evident unless you can compare this with a 'good' engine.
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Drive the car around 2k - 3k rpm. Don't rev to hard. Gentle driving. Smooth gradual acceleration. Ensure the engine runs at the normal running temperature meaning avoid too many short journeys. Recommend to do this for at least 3000km. I had always run-in all my new cars even if the SE told me otherwise.�
Hi all, once COE bidding is successful, how long did y'all have to wait before collecting the car?
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Depends got stock or not... if existing then 1-2 weeks should be able to collect.
Edited by Javierpoon, 02 August 2016 - 05:11 PM.
Better do a run-in for new cars. There is no harm. You won't know if the engine if it was not properly runned-in. The lack of power would not be evident unless you can compare this with a 'good' engine.
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Drive the car around 2k - 3k rpm. Don't rev to hard. Gentle driving. Smooth gradual acceleration. Ensure the engine runs at the normal running temperature meaning avoid too many short journeys. Recommend to do this for at least 3000km. I had always run-in all my new cars even if the SE told me otherwise.�
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You won't know if the car is properly assembled.� It may fall apart when you drive.
Who told you they put mineral oil during 1k and 5k servicing. My service sheet clearly print fully synthetic shell helix 5w30.Wow..thanks for the info..but if our car already run-in..why the need to put in mineral oil and change oil at 1km, 5km interval?
I had requested for 5w30.
Oh cool..thanks for the info..i will request the same in my 1k servicing.Who told you they put mineral oil during 1k and 5k servicing. My service sheet clearly print fully synthetic shell helix 5w30.
I had requested for 5w30.
But hey, it's your baby and your car but don't forget several people have driven your car before on and off the ship, to and from kitting out and final preps before delivering the car to you. Sorry to break it to you that way but she's no longer a virgin.
Can feedback on the usefulness?
Edited by newbie12345, 03 August 2016 - 12:36 PM.
Any option to change the GPS map to a better one?GPS come with it only for those after June 2016.
Map and graphic is so so .
Heard free update after 1 or 2 yr. not sure true anot.
Money can solve a lot thing thoughAny option to change the GPS map to a better one?
Haha. That is so true.Money can solve a lot thing though
Any idea on the blind spot thingy?
Forester vs X1:
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Why leh? Tot better GPS use Google... FocMoney can solve a lot thing though
He's asking whether can change the integrated GPS in the car Ma.Why leh? Tot better GPS use Google... Foc
With stack of money , u can turn the car into a F1 wannabe too :)
Edited by L23, 03 August 2016 - 05:52 PM.
Oh he can give me $$$ to install Google maps on his handphone...He's asking whether can change the integrated GPS in the car Ma.
With stack of money , u can turn the car into a F1 wannabe too :)
Can share what is the special color that you order?
Just colour not in stock at MI during that moment. Stock is left with black color only
Edited by Axela72, 04 August 2016 - 10:30 AM.
Just colour not in stock at MI during that moment. Stock is left with black color only
Just for clarification - do you mean the leather seats colour? (Not the car colour).
Thanks.
Press & hold the tailgate button at the back for about 1.5 secs, then it'll overwrite the auto-opening function & u can manually lift up the tailgate liao...if u can't wait for the slow opening movement of the tailgate during a rainy day lol...then the small little black rubber button at the right side, is for u to lock the whole car after u close the boot, & its also the button for pin code lock.
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There is a way to manually open and close the tailgate. I dont know it off hand but its in the manual.
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Edited by Grisson, 04 August 2016 - 12:12 PM.
Just for clarification - do you mean the leather seats colour? (Not the car colour).
Thanks.
Stock colour refers to the car colour. If current stock don't have�the colour you wanted, then it is considered indent. Or you can wait for new shipment to come and see if they have extra cars that are not�allocated to those who booked earlier and in your colour.�If have and your hands are fast enough (to book), then you need�not top up for indent anymore.�
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For leather seats colour, I think stock is black. If you want another colour, you need to top up $500. From what I seen and felt, the $500 top up is worth it as the leather seems softer and more premium.
Jovier, can pm your SE contact pls thanksI got my FNA with first bid. Just confirmed my car on Sunday and got it with today's bidding.
I experienced this issue as well. I think it is due to the broadcast, may not be HU issue.i have also experienced auto rest of the sound settings, eg I increase bass and mids, then after a while when I check back, both settings are reset to original.Any advise on the sound/radio. I amhearing the sound from radio becomes muffled momentarily...is it the HU or antenna or amp prob?
Can I ask if anyone here changing their stock 2p1p brakes to 4p2p?
Just wanted to know if the WRX 4p2p can be direct bolt on.
What is the rims size for stock frosty NA and offset of rims.
Anyone can give some information?
Thanks in advance.
Can I ask if anyone here changing their stock 2p1p brakes to 4p2p?
Just wanted to know if the WRX 4p2p can be direct bolt on.
What is the rims size for stock frosty NA and offset of rims.
Anyone can give some information?
Thanks in advance.
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From what I could find out (need to confirm) the stock NA wheel specs is 7Jx17 ET48. The stock XT is 7Jx18 ET48. So both the models have an offset of 48mm. �Hope this helps.
From what I could find out (need to confirm) the stock NA wheel specs is 7Jx17 ET48. The stock XT is 7Jx18 ET48. So both the models have an offset of 48mm. �Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the info, confirmed the 7jX17 ET48 can't clear the wrx red 4p2p. The rear 2p also need mod in order to fit.
Can I ask if anyone here changing their stock 2p1p brakes to 4p2p?
Just wanted to know if the WRX 4p2p can be direct bolt on.
What is the rims size for stock frosty NA and offset of rims.
Anyone can give some information?
Thanks in advance.
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fronts are direct bolt on for the either the WRX red 4 pots or the STI Brembo 4 pots (subject to whether your rims can clear or not), however for the 2015 foresters they changed the design for the rear knuckles so the rears are no longer plug and play.... some people say need to add adapter brackets, some people say even with adapter brackets need to do some grinding of the knuckles.....
Edited by Slowpoke, 05 August 2016 - 04:49 PM.
Need to check,for those who signed for fna 8 bid ng during end May when COE was 49k and chose to top up 3k, did you manage to get your car?
Yup, I managed to get the COE after top up 3k. Was given Cat E on next bidding.
Good to see u are are content with topup. Still better deal than later buyer whom pay at much higher premium.Yup, I managed to get the COE after top up 3k. Was given Cat E on next bidding.
Not like some folk in hoping they can still secure their ride with even higher paper value gain by not topping up.Unless they believe coe will drop to 50k or below by 8th bid
Actually I think there's nothing wrong with topping up or not. Everyone's situations are different e.g some got car to trade in, some need car urgently, some prefer to collect car at a later date, some may want to top up at a later stage. Most important you know your situation well and strategize what is the best for you. End of the day, still a gamble, some win some lose. But I agree with you, just be content and enjoy the car and do not regret your move after that. I came to the forum not to compare but just to learn and share info. I'm sure you agree we can't totally trust what the SE told us and that is why need help with the experienced here :)Good to see u are are content with topup. Still better deal than later buyer whom pay at much higher premium.
Not like some folk in hoping they can still secure their ride with even higher paper value gain by not topping up.Unless they believe coe will drop to 50k or below by 8th bid
That is why i mentioned "some." At minimum my colleague belong to this group.Actually I think there's nothing wrong with topping up or not. Everyone's situations are different e.g some got car to trade in, some need car urgently, some prefer to collect car at a later date, some may want to top up at a later stage. Most important you know your situation well and strategize what is the best for you. End of the day, still a gamble, some win some lose. But I agree with you, just be content and enjoy the car and do not regret your move after that. I came to the forum not to compare but just to learn and share info. I'm sure you agree we can't totally trust what the SE told us and that is why need help with the experienced here :)
Congrats in getting your car :) which round of cat e did they give you
Was Given Cat B at 55k.
Good to see u are are content with topup. Still better deal than later buyer whom pay at much higher premium.
Not like some folk in hoping they can still secure their ride with even higher paper value gain by not topping up.Unless they believe coe will drop to 50k or below by 8th bid
Sensing that COE will go up north, topping up to secure the COE was an easy decision to make. 3rd week since collecting my car. No regrets.
Edited by Margaux, 06 August 2016 - 11:48 AM.
Is qashqai drive similar to FNA?
Edited by JuzFXT, 06 August 2016 - 01:25 PM.
If one is used to the high life, they may not adapt well to a Commoner's life
Your wife may not adapt well to the Qashqai 1.2 turbo which has just half the horses under the Forester XT bonnet
Better that you get her a 2l NA SUV like the Qashqai 2.0 or Forester 2.0 NA
Need some advise from bros here.. Thinking of changing my wife car from a sedan to a cheaper suv and lesser power ... Our FXT is really nice to drive. But wife don't need the power and hence thinking of a less powerful suv. Any suggestion beside FNA? Qashqai is $103800 now.
Is qashqai drive similar to FNA?
Wait for the new SUV from Proton and Perodua.
Most ladies will like the mazda CX3. In Japan it is a hot favourite of lady drivers.Need some advise from bros here.. Thinking of changing my wife car from a sedan to a cheaper suv and lesser power ... Our FXT is really nice to drive. But wife don't need the power and hence thinking of a less powerful suv. Any suggestion beside FNA? Qashqai is $103800 now.
Is qashqai drive similar to FNA?
Vezel or vezel hybrid lor. The sheer numbers is driving me crazy.. Lol...Need some advise from bros here.. Thinking of changing my wife car from a sedan to a cheaper suv and lesser power ... Our FXT is really nice to drive. But wife don't need the power and hence thinking of a less powerful suv. Any suggestion beside FNA? Qashqai is $103800 now.
Is qashqai drive similar to FNA?
Get XV.. Ditch the QQ1.2 laNeed some advise from bros here.. Thinking of changing my wife car from a sedan to a cheaper suv and lesser power ... Our FXT is really nice to drive. But wife don't need the power and hence thinking of a less powerful suv. Any suggestion beside FNA? Qashqai is $103800 now.
Is qashqai drive similar to FNA?
CX5 interior is the cabin size of XV... Only boot is bigger, bigger than FXT. CX3.. Think smallerMost ladies will like the mazda CX3. In Japan it is a hot favourite of lady drivers.
Vezel best. Young and old, male and female all love it.Get XV.. Ditch the QQ1.2 la
CX5 interior is the cabin size of XV... Only boot is bigger, bigger than FXT. CX3.. Think smaller
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If one is used to the high life, they may not adapt well to a Commoner's life
Your wife may not adapt well to the Qashqai 1.2 turbo which has just half the horses under the Forester XT bonnet
Better that you get her a 2l NA SUV like the Qashqai 2.0 or Forester 2.0 NA
I know what you meant ... quite used to high power car hence get the fxt... but for wife... i dont want another same car hence that maybe the last choice...�
Get XV.. Ditch the QQ1.2 la
CX5 interior is the cabin size of XV... Only boot is bigger, bigger than FXT. CX3.. Think smaller
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I was thinking XV but the ride height not as high as forester right?�
Vezel or vezel hybrid lor. The sheer numbers is driving me crazy.. Lol...
�Vezel.... like you say too many... so not really considering already hence left with either XV or Qashiqai...
Their xtronic cvt is actually pretty good at fc. But it's pretty retarded and can get confused when going down slip where it will keep the rpm high and u get the undesirable engine groan. Subaru's cvt is a lot smarter and responsive.Nissan mmmm... IMHO has the shitiest CVT..
I still dunno how come nissan, which is 1 of the 1st company to jump in CVT, FC still lags behind toyota and honda...Their xtronic cvt is actually pretty good at fc. But it's pretty retarded and can get confused when going down slip where it will keep the rpm high and u get the undesirable engine groan. Subaru's cvt is a lot smarter and responsive.
Their engines for passenger cars nv really evolve much over time.... They put all their hopes on their cvt technology which they r so proud of. It's pretty good already, but still fall short when compared to others. Sad...I still dunno how come nissan, which is 1 of the 1st company to jump in CVT, FC still lags behind toyota and honda...
Bro..can you share Benny's contact or shop address??If u r on a tight budget or dun wish to spend too much on coating then look for opti coat. Contact Benny. For forester is $290.
Benny at 9338 7370. No shop. He is a mobile groomer.Bro..can you share Benny's contact or shop address??
Need some advise from bros here.. Thinking of changing my wife car from a sedan to a cheaper suv and lesser power ... Our FXT is really nice to drive. But wife don't need the power and hence thinking of a less powerful suv. Any suggestion beside FNA? Qashqai is $103800 now.
Is qashqai drive similar to FNA?
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Then can recommend cheaper SUV :)
Actually Subaru had been using CVT since the Justy in the early 80s when others were still using 4spd auto. They are the most experience in CVT.I still dunno how come nissan, which is 1 of the 1st company to jump in CVT, FC still lags behind toyota and honda...
https://en.m.wikiped...ki/Subaru_Justy
Edited by Tohto, 08 August 2016 - 11:42 AM.
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