mycarforum: 2015 Forester 2.0 part 15

Maybe during test drive we tends to push the rpm higher to get the feel of the engine performance. XT engine doesn't need to be push unlike NA engine.

I don't deny that could be part of the issue but it did not felt that way when I was testing it. Im quite light footed normally so I don't think I pushed the NA engine to such limits.
Up till now I'm still abit skeptical about what the SE told me.
Best thing for people who are choosing between both cars is to just go test drive it out. Test drive is free anyway.

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still on the topic of the two cars and their merits... can someone help to answer this:

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how many speakers are there in the XT? 8 or 12 ?

most www states 8, while product brochure states a whopping 12, even my SE also couldnt count to 12... or its just a printing error...

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Seriously have no idea how many speakers there are for XT. Even if it's 12 or 6, it's just adequate and not amazing. Audiophile may have to upgrade outside

With the discussions about the NA and the Turbo, let me share my test drive experience.
I tested the NA model first, felt the drive is adequate, powerful enough but it was really really noisy. It felt like we are hearing even the noise of the engine in the rear seats.
Then I tested the XT, which was much quieter even thou with turbo. It felt quite refined actually as compared to NA.
When questioned, the SE said the consultation on the XT is much better and such so the noise level was much better in the XT.
Up till now I'm still not sure if the SE was bulls**tting me anot. Ha-ha but if based on that test drive, I would choose the XT if I did not decide on other cars.

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Car got consultation?? [confused]

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Mean insulation issit?

Seriously have no idea how many speakers there are for XT. Even if it's 12 or 6, it's just adequate and not amazing. Audiophile may have to upgrade outside

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I think it's 8. The Legacy has 12 speakers, but Harman/Kardon themselves only mention 8 speakers on the FXT.

http://www.harmankar...subaru-forester

(if it directs you to the homepage, try the link again)

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4x 80mm midrange speaker (mounted on high positions)
2x 6x9 inch woofer (mounted low in front doors)

2x 160mm midwoofer (mounted low in rear doors)

1x 8ch 440W DSP amplifier

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Edited by 7hm, 20 November 2015 - 11:28 AM.

Just to share some datapoints, this tank I was on course and driving pattern was now 80% high way.

The FC is now around 12.5km per litre, haven go for first oil change.

I lend my friend to drive my car for a short drive, he was amazed by the smooth cvt, he drives the previous gen Honda oydessy. He said he didn't expect Subaru to have changed so much.

Coming from a manual wrx and selespeed Alfa, let me just say my wife is damn happy with the smoother ride :)

Just have lunch at the same building at the shop that using Cosmics glass coating for detailing in below link:

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http://www.mycarforu...ooming-service/

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The price for Forester glass coating $688 that can last for 3 yrs. However, they are currently having promotion at $888 on 1 year package (2 layers of glass coating, plastic & trim treatment, windscreen & brakedust repellent, leather & ordor treatment).

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According to them, they will cure the glass coating so if it happen to be a rainy day, not a concerns.

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Good luck booking with the pikapika guys. Long waiting queue and personally feel they like not hard up for my biz. Took my money else were. Personal opinion. Others may have better interactions

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Just have lunch at the same building at the shop that using Cosmics glass coating for detailing in below link:

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http://www.mycarforu...ooming-service/

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The price for Forester glass coating $688 that can last for 3 yrs. However, they are currently having promotion at $888 on 1 year package (2 layers of glass coating, plastic & trim treatment, windscreen & brakedust repellent, leather & ordor treatment).

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According to them, they will cure the glass coating so if it happen to be a rainy day, not a concerns.

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They use a heater machine to cure the coating inside the showfloor, so you shouldn't be concerned with that. I believe that is the case for most of the boutique groomers, though some like GroomersLab don't have a curing process in their procedure... drive away and cure in sunlight

forester is a very nice car.. but i cant accept the fact that the rear mirror dont have auto dimming when behind car high beam. instead need mannually snap the lever underneath...

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Car got consultation??

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Mean insulation issit?

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I think it's 8. The Legacy has 12 speakers, but Harman/Kardon themselves only mention 8 speakers on the FXT.

http://www.harmankar...subaru-forester

(if it directs you to the homepage, try the link again)

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seems like 8 is the correct one... I am trying hard to "convince" myself not to add amps and speakers... ha ha... maybe some time later...

I dont use the rear mirror of car as I feel that they are too small. I hook a long mirror where I get from automotive mart. So, whether dim or no dim on their orginal mirror doesnt bother me [laugh]

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forester is a very nice car.. but i cant accept the fact that the rear mirror dont have auto dimming when behind car high beam. instead need mannually snap the lever underneath...

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I dont use the rear mirror of car as I feel that they are too small. I hook a long mirror where I get from automotive mart. So, whether dim or no dim on their orginal mirror doesnt bother me

just a little flaw and the forester will be perfect. too bad�no�dealer keen to take in my trade in�car.�..�

What car do you drive?

just a little flaw and the forester will be perfect. too bad�no�dealer keen to take in my trade in�car.�..�

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What car do you drive?

E200 and Renault GS

forester is a very nice car.. but i cant accept the fact that the rear mirror dont have auto dimming when behind car high beam. instead need mannually snap the lever underneath...

Firstly, it's a taller car, so not that often will get high beam. Secondly, can pay $100++-200+ and get a auto dimming rear mirror genuine parts to replace. Thirdly if all fails... Boast the turbo and speed up.

Btw, which 115k-129k car in today COE level have auto dimming rear mirror?

just a little flaw and the forester will be perfect. too bad no dealer keen to take in my trade in car. ..

sell yourself loh. I paid $90 post advert on SGcarmart and car sold on 2nd day at $3k more on the MI's dealer's trade in price.

And the dealer sold off the car on the 2nd week after I deliver the car to him... At least I see the car marked as sold.

So spend a few hours and make some extra $$

Edited by Chucky2007, 20 November 2015 - 05:07 PM.

I assuming they are giving very low trade in value ba.

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I din't get good quotes too so I went to sell my car through Quotz.

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Got at least 7k more.

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E200 and Renault GS

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Good FC . you know the average speed achieved for that tank?

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Just to share some datapoints, this tank I was on course and driving pattern was now 80% high way.

The FC is now around 12.5km per litre, haven go for first oil change.

I lend my friend to drive my car for a short drive, he was amazed by the smooth cvt, he drives the previous gen Honda oydessy. He said he didn't expect Subaru to have changed so much.

Coming from a manual wrx and selespeed Alfa, let me just say my wife is damn happy with the smoother ride :)

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have a xt for about 6 months now, I noticed the fc is super high when u are driving in start stop city traffic, however if u are on the highway, the fc a lot better den what you'd expect. My best tank so far achieved 9l/100km on the dash meter.

Firstly, it's a taller car, so not that often will get high beam. Secondly, can pay $100++-200+ and get a auto dimming rear mirror genuine parts to replace. Thirdly if all fails... Boast the turbo and speed up.

Btw, which 115k-129k car in today COE level have auto dimming rear mirror?

sell yourself loh. I paid $90 post advert on SGcarmart and car sold on 2nd day at $3k more on the MI's dealer's trade in price.

And the dealer sold off the car on the 2nd week after I deliver the car to him... At least I see the car marked as sold.

So spend a few hours and make some extra $$

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I think the Peugeot 308 I nearly went for had auto-dimming rear view mirror... and that was 117k at the time

forester is a very nice car.. but i cant accept the fact that the rear mirror dont have auto dimming when behind car high beam. instead need mannually snap the lever underneath...

On a lighter note, turbo away before people got chance to high beam u lol

Jokes aside I was also not used as my previous car had that function but u will get use to it and being high beam is really like once in a blue moon Sia

Another good feature on the NA is the 17" tyres.. the rubber for this size is much much cheaper.

I just changed the stock Bridgestone Dueler 18" HL400 out.. and paid $310 per tyre for a set of Continental. The 17" cost $200 or less

Hi, did u change when the Duelers are fresh from dealer or just worn them?
Would like to get some reviews from Forester drivers cos tyre websites mostly not encouraging.
What Conti model did u get? Cos i tot CrossContact not available for 225/55/18. Thanks

Example, if refer to the various owner review from sgcarmart, most are commenting on XT but not the N.A. I can afford to pay for the XT but, can't accept the FC and the extra care need to take care for Turbo engine. Wonder did I made the right choice to get the N.A. instead of XT

There is no extra care needed for Turbo engine if you dun mod it or track it. Normal servicing will do. My EJ engine still works fine (touch wood) after 6.5yr. FB DIT engine designed to be better.

But comparing with N.A. reliability can't be exactly equal, if you know what I mean. Besides, I heard some comment that to prolong the life of Turbo car, might need to wait for 2 min before driving off and 2 min before shutting down. Furthermore, engine oil prefer higher viscosity, on time maintenance (fyi, sometime I service my car after 1 yr due to low mileage). Petrol prefer higher octane vs N.A etc. That is what I meant on "extra care."

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When talking about engine reliability, I am talking about after 10 years, in case I can only afford to renew my COE during that era [laugh] . Do you feel safer to renew the COE for a N.A. or Turbo engine car? If�you can see your car engine is having issue in 6.5 yrs, the quality is suck. I used to work in automotive manufacturing industry in quality engineering area. I conduct reliability test evaluation on part level (inclusive of engine)......

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There is no extra care needed for Turbo engine if you dun mod it or track it. Normal servicing will do. My EJ engine still works fine (touch wood) after 6.5yr. FB DIT engine designed to be better.

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But comparing with N.A. reliability can't be exactly equal, if you know what I mean. Besides, I heard some comment that to prolong the life of Turbo car, might need to wait for 2 min before driving off and 2 min before shutting down. Furthermore, engine oil prefer higher viscosity, on time maintenance (fyi, sometime I service my car after 1 yr due to low mileage). Petrol prefer higher octane vs N.A etc. That is what I meant on "extra care."

When talking about engine reliability, I am talking about after 10 years, in case I can only afford to renew my COE during that era . Do you feel safer to renew the COE for a N.A. or Turbo engine car? If you can see your car engine is having issue in 6.5 yrs, the quality is suck. I used to work in automotive manufacturing industry in quality engineering area. I conduct reliability test evaluation on part level (inclusive of engine)......

I guess knowing too much sometimes can contribute to more considerations that lead to indecisiveness. But on the other hand, possess more insight to make intelligent choice.

Hi, did u change when the Duelers are fresh from dealer or just worn them?
Would like to get some reviews from Forester drivers cos tyre websites mostly not encouraging.
What Conti model did u get? Cos i tot CrossContact not available for 225/55/18. Thanks

I used the Dueler400 until 4000km, no significant trade in value. Felt it's too soft for cornering and braking. But no major complaints bec didn't drive them too hard for these tyres are not for such nature. The treadwear for the dueler is at 300.

I got the Conti CSC5 SUV 235/50r18, so it's 1.7% smaller in overall circumference, treadwear 420. Raining season coming and I love to drive fast in rain bec TP are indoors.. need some tyres that good in wet like CSC5, Eagle F1A2.. Dueler can't fuifill this purpose definitely.

It's much depends on individual driving style. Now 100% in tar road. If next time have chance to do some offroad then I buy another set of AT tyre with 16"/17" steel rim

Edited by Chucky2007, 21 November 2015 - 11:16 AM.

But comparing with N.A. reliability can't be exactly equal, if you know what I mean. Besides, I heard some comment that to prolong the life of Turbo car, might need to wait for 2 min before driving off and 2 min before shutting down. Furthermore, engine oil prefer higher viscosity, on time maintenance (fyi, sometime I service my car after 1 yr due to low mileage). Petrol prefer higher octane vs N.A etc. That is what I meant on "extra care."

When talking about engine reliability, I am talking about after 10 years, in case I can only afford to renew my COE during that era . Do you feel safer to renew the COE for a N.A. or Turbo engine car? If you can see your car engine is having issue in 6.5 yrs, the quality is suck. I used to work in automotive manufacturing industry in quality engineering area. I conduct reliability test evaluation on part level (inclusive of engine)......

Driving off immediately is no good for engine head gasket even for normal car. And no i dun have to wait 2min, more like 15 to 30sec but then most passengers take that time to settle in belt up.
Enginer oil no special viscosity needed compared to my previous Civic SiR.
And yes there is one driver who has renewed his Legacy COE twice....

I used the Dueler400 until 4000km, no significant trade in value. Felt it's too soft for cornering and braking. But no major complaints bec didn't drive them too hard for these tyres are not for such nature. The treadwear for the dueler is at 300.

I got the Conti CSC5 SUV 235/50r18, so it's 1.7% smaller in overall circumference, treadwear 420. Raining season coming and I love to drive fast in rain bec TP are indoors.. need some tyres that good in wet like CSC5, Eagle F1A2.. Dueler can't fuifill this purpose definitely.

It's much depends on individual driving style. Now 100% in tar road. If next time have chance to do some offroad then I buy another set of AT tyre with 16"/17" steel rim

Thanks, it is still usefyl feedback for the Dueler. Good to know can choose slightly different profile to have wider choice, else only left Goodyear EfficientGrip...

Driving off immediately is no good for engine head gasket even for normal car. And no i dun have to wait 2min, more like 15 to 30sec but then most passengers take that time to settle in belt up.
Enginer oil no special viscosity needed compared to my previous Civic SiR.
And yes there is one driver who has renewed his Legacy COE twice....

Thanks, it is still usefyl feedback for the Dueler. Good to know can choose slightly different profile to have wider choice, else only left Goodyear EfficientGrip...

Does EfficientGrip has the size for XT?

I prefer Forester for keeping the rugger and robust outlook�of a 2.0 SUV even the current May�facelift, which still resemble near the old school SUV as compare to the older brand facelift into more trendy look.

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Why I chose Forester:

1)�Safety�with best in class and also the�7 air bags.

2) New Lineartronic Gear box�design to improve�FC as compare to the old�design.

3)�True�AWD for good slope climbing and corning.

4) Good Price at�Oct 15 at $117,800.00 at compare to other brand 2.0 SUV�average $130,000.00.

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5) Can last above 10 yrs lifecycle.

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As for FC, all SUV is make to�look big, so this ultimately�will translate to higher FC�as compare to saloon car.

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Compare i-L or XT, for local�short distance and heavy traffic�my choice will be i-L, which�good�enough power to over take,�comfort travel,�FC better than XT and lastly�the maintenance cost in long run.

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That's my own though for choosing Forester i-L�and looking forward to take over my new Forester coming�Wednesday. [;)]

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Good FC . you know the average speed achieved for that tank?

Bro any where to see the average speed? If there this function?

If not just to give u an idea of the route. From changi to CCK for 4 days straight to and fro. Via tpe sle bke kje

So XT owners, did you notice the hood still has the provision for a scoop-duct? Was kind of amused when I saw it on the showroom car after popping the hood... [sly]

Forester price list now back to 121.8k

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http://www.oneshift....pricelistid=694

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Luckily bought during expo at very much cheaper price [:)] �However, if no luck to secure the COE by this year, I will probably get the C4 Picasso next

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I prefer Forester for keeping the rugger and robust outlook�of a 2.0 SUV even the current May�facelift, which still resemble near the old school SUV as compare to the older brand facelift into more trendy look.

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Why I chose Forester:

1)�Safety�with best in class and also the�7 air bags.

2) New Lineartronic Gear box�design to improve�FC as compare to the old�design.

3)�True�AWD for good slope climbing and corning.

4) Good Price at�Oct 15 at $117,800.00 at compare to other brand 2.0 SUV�average $130,000.00.

�� (This saving of $12,200,00 is good enough to cover 5,810 litre of 95 petrol)

5) Can last above 10 yrs lifecycle.

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As for FC, all SUV is make to�look big, so this ultimately�will translate to higher FC�as compare to saloon car.

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Compare i-L or XT, for local�short distance and heavy traffic�my choice will be i-L, which�good�enough power to over take,�comfort travel,�FC better than XT and lastly�the maintenance cost in long run.

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That's my own though for choosing Forester i-L�and looking forward to take over my new Forester coming�Wednesday.

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the stock dueler tyres sux in wet weather. i had a minor skid in the rain while going from kje->bke. If u like to drive faster den speed limit its absolutely not recommended.

Forester price list now back to 121.8k

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http://www.oneshift....pricelistid=694

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Luckily bought during expo at very much cheaper price �However, if no luck to secure the COE by this year, I will probably get the C4 Picasso next

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Car show good buy with�6 bids guarantee,�c/w front strut bar and sure win lucky dip.

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Sure will secure after the agents clear their car�show backlog.

Guess your MI reserve price for your COE�around $60,001.00.

From MCF adverb, it show guarantee COE. But I realize when I check�back�my purchase contract yesterday, it shows 6 bids non guarantee instead. Too bad, I was careless to review the contract in detail when signing.

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Car show good buy with�6 bids guarantee,�c/w front strut bar and sure win lucky dip.

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Sure will secure after the agents clear their car�show backlog.

Guess your MI reserve price for your COE�around $60,001.00.

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So XT owners, did you notice the hood still has the provision for a scoop-duct? Was kind of amused when I saw it on the showroom car after popping the hood...

don't get what you mean.. because there is no good scope for the turbo version.

If u meant the black scope under the hood.. that's actually functional.

From MCF adverb, it show guarantee COE. But I realize when I check back my purchase contract yesterday, it shows 6 bids non guarantee instead. Too bad, I was careless to review the contract in detail when signing.

was the guaranteed package then $1k above the non guaranteed or few k more ex? Did the sales told you have such thing as guaranteed bid and it's $1k more than non guaranteed?

Edited by Chucky2007, 21 November 2015 - 03:15 PM.

I didn't ask the SE as I assumed it is guarantee COE from the adverb I saw from MCF. The SE also�didn't mention anything about guarantee or non guarantee when signing the contract. I just tell SE the amount of discount I targeted and he draft out the contract. Just sign when I validate the final value is what I can accept.

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was the guaranteed package then $1k above the non guaranteed or few k more ex? Did the sales told you have such thing as guaranteed bid and it's $1k more than non guaranteed?

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Update:

Just refer back to the contract and I�guess I know�why it become non guarantee. SE minus another 1k from the pricelist to change guarantee to non guarantee to achieve my targeted price instead.�Either he believed/confident with non guarantee, still can get the COE or, trying to hit his order quota

Edited by Axela72, 21 November 2015 - 03:39 PM.

don't get what you mean.. because there is no good scope for the turbo version.

If u meant the black scope under the hood.. that's actually functional.

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I could see the duct under the hood is hollow and allows air to go through, but at the time I didn't see a clear intake point... unless its from the holes just behind the hood.

Really looks like they removed the hood scoop the previous FXT had and left the duct there, haha. [laugh]

Forester price list now back to 121.8k

http://www.oneshift....pricelistid=694

Luckily bought during expo at very much cheaper price However, if no luck to secure the COE by this year, I will probably get the C4 Picasso next

You are on guarantee COE package, for sure you will get your COE.

don't get what you mean.. because there is no good scope for the turbo version.

If u meant the black scope under the hood.. that's actually functional.

was the guaranteed package then $1k above the non guaranteed or few k more ex? Did the sales told you have such thing as guaranteed bid and it's $1k more than non guaranteed?

EXPO price should be all guarantee COE package. So far is the best price I had seen since I start monitoring the price from July.
Was a bit regret did not sign on, now have to wait for next opportunity.

I could see the duct under the hood is hollow and allows air to go through, but at the time I didn't see a clear intake point... unless its from the holes just behind the hood.
Really looks like they removed the hood scoop the previous FXT had and left the duct there, haha.

That is for the air to suck in from the front grill to the intercooler.

there is a chance to hope on�next Expo (Apr) will be lower�since higher COE quota given. Not to mention the new FL.

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EXPO price should be all guarantee COE package. So far is the best price I had seen since I start monitoring the price from July.
Was a bit regret did not sign on, now have to wait for next opportunity.

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That is for the air to suck in from the front grill to the intercooler.

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that's what we thought when we looked at it at the time. That said it's a bit interesting to see an intercooler on the top rather than on the front

Not unusual to be turbo intercoolers mounted at that position.

https://www.google.c...RsECwMQ_AUIBygB
To have the air scope visible or not, is subjective. Some drivers like, some don't like. Subaru says their reason for not placing the air scope on top of bonnet is to improve visibility

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Sry I don't drive Forrester. Just that I was thinking if the car can measure FC onboard, it shld also measure the average speed over the same period of the FC.

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Maybe others can answer your qn.

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Bro any where to see the average speed? If there this function?

If not just to give u an idea of the route. From changi to CCK for 4 days straight to and fro. Via tpe sle bke kje

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Not unusual to be turbo intercoolers mounted at that position.
To have the air scope visible or not, is subjective. Some drivers like, some don't like. Subaru says their reason for not placing the air scope on top of bonnet is to improve visibility

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also reduce likelyhood of people thinking you are bengster� [laugh] � [smash]

also reduce likelyhood of people thinking you are bengster

Too bad my kan cheong spider driving style gives me away as a Lau Beng.

If onboard computer has this function, definitely can. Else, buy an aftermarket OBD reader.

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Typically, the average speed clocked for Singapore 50/50 mix driving is 30 km/hr for most drivers.

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Sry I don't drive Forrester. Just that I was thinking if the car can measure FC onboard, it shld also measure the average speed over the same period of the FC.

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Maybe others can answer your qn.

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Does EfficientGrip has the size for XT?

It Is 225/55R18 right? Tyrereview.com show it has this size

Edited by Sarion, 22 November 2015 - 11:32 AM.

This Viziv concept taillight look so much better

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Not unusual to be turbo intercoolers mounted at that position.

https://www.google.c...RsECwMQ_AUIBygB
To have the air scope visible or not, is subjective. Some drivers like, some don't like. Subaru says their reason for not placing the air scope on top of bonnet is to improve visibility

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Not a bad thing to have intercooler scoop in front rather than on the bonnet in our local context. We have so many trees with small leaves in our open air car parks. The leaves fall onto bonnet and get pushed into the inter-cooler where over time, it turns dry and brittle. I always made it a point to pop open bonnet of my LGT and clean out the leaves and leaf fragments from the intercooler gills. A real pain, but the thought of leaves catching fire is even worse.�

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Front scoop less chance for leaves to get in. � �

Not a bad thing to have intercooler scoop in front rather than on the bonnet in our local context. We have so many trees with small leaves in our open air car parks. The leaves fall onto bonnet and get pushed into the inter-cooler where over time, it turns dry and brittle. I always made it a point to pop open bonnet of my LGT and clean out the leaves and leaf fragments from the intercooler gills. A real pain, but the thought of leaves catching fire is even worse.�

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Front scoop less chance for leaves to get in. � �

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Hi bro. �For top mounted scoop of other car brands, is it common to have a plastic filter to prevent debris from collecting on intercooler?

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Tks of advice. �

This Viziv concept taillight look so much better

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Subaru knows how to make nice looking concepts but they don't seem to know how to bring it to production.

hahaha ... well said [thumbsup]

like this concept car far from production

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Subaru knows how to make nice looking concepts but they don't seem to know how to bring it to production.

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Edited by Wt_know, 22 November 2015 - 05:43 PM.

Hi bro. �For top mounted scoop of other car brands, is it common to have a plastic filter to prevent debris from collecting on intercooler?

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Don't know about others, but Subaru scoop does not have filters to keep out small leaves. Current crop of turbo on Merc, does not even have intercooler, so no scoop. �

hahaha ... well said

like this concept car far from production

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I'm okay with the loss of the sleek roofline for passenger praticality, but that front end should've stayed the same... not to mention how utterly boringly ugly the Impreza/WRX tail lights are. Those just pitifully horrendous.

The front lamp are good to me as there is a signature to it. But the current rear lamp cmi. Why cant they bring the style from front design to the rear as well like their concept Viziv car? Compare with Harrier Rear is like few decade behind

I'm okay with the loss of the sleek roofline for passenger praticality, but that front end should've stayed the same... not to mention how utterly boringly ugly the Impreza/WRX tail lights are. Those just pitifully horrendous.

Edited by Axela72, 22 November 2015 - 06:35 PM.

Don't know about others, but Subaru scoop does not have filters to keep out small leaves. Current crop of turbo on Merc, does not even have intercooler, so no scoop. �

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I'm not sure about Merc, but most turbo cars have intercoolers and are front mounted (FMIC), which is why there is no scoop.

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Subaru runs top mounted (TMIC) perhaps due to lack of space in the engine bay.

The front lamp are good to me as there is a signature to it. But the current rear lamp cmi. Why cant they bring the style from front design to the rear as well like their concept Viziv car? Compare with Harrier Rear is like few decade behind
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the current WRX rear reminds me of the merc A-class [laugh]

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also I'm still puzzled as to why the Forester haven't make the transition to LED rear lights. The tail lights are just bulbs, although they use an inlay lens to produce a three-dimensional effect.

But ya, it's still very old looking, not very modern at all

Anyone know which workshop carry this�"Master Brake Cylinder Brace"?

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Online search mainly for left hand drive car.

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the current WRX rear reminds me of the merc A-class

also I'm still puzzled as to why the Forester haven't make the transition to LED rear lights. The tail lights are just bulbs, although they use an inlay lens to produce a three-dimensional effect.
But ya, it's still very old looking, not very modern at all

Facelift version launched in Nov Tokyo motorshow should be LED. Gotta see when it eventually comes to Singapore...

hahaha ... well said
like this concept car far from production

Subaru not the only guilty party lah

Edited by Pocus, 22 November 2015 - 10:17 PM.

Subaru not the only guilty party lah

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those cars a bit older leh... maybe more recent example might be the Altima concept... but the final teana looks better hahaha

maybe can accuse the Hyundai HCD-14 Genesis... the production Genesis is pretty much not the same

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the current WRX rear reminds me of the merc A-class

also I'm still puzzled as to why the Forester haven't make the transition to LED rear lights. The tail lights are just bulbs, although they use an inlay lens to produce a three-dimensional effect.
But ya, it's still very old looking, not very modern at all

A hatch rear looks like a sedan rear?

A hatch rear looks like a sedan rear?

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the tail light seem very similar... it's more obvious feeling on the impreza hatch

You can choose to display average speed on the centre multi-function display. Got to "Screen Setting -> Triple Meter" and select. It is tied to your Trip Meter A or B.

Bro any where to see the average speed? If there this function?

If not just to give u an idea of the route. From changi to CCK for 4 days straight to and fro. Via tpe sle bke kje

Edited by Ewennst, 23 November 2015 - 08:03 AM.

You can choose to display average speed on the centre multi-function display. Got to "Screen Setting -> Triple Meter" and select. It is tied to your Trip Meter A or B.

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Is this took from your car?

Average speed of 28km/h can get FC of 9.0L/100km i think is very good.

My current car 2.0L saloon sometimes with average speed of about 40km/h, FC best can get is only around 10.8km/L.

Yes. This is from Trip Meter B, which I use to track mileage (~2600km) since I collected my car.

Ha ha. You won't like my "uncle driving style".

Is this took from your car?
Average speed of 28km/h can get FC of 9.0L/100km i think is very good.
My current car 2.0L saloon sometimes with average speed of about 40km/h, FC best can get is only around 10.8km/L.

I'm not sure about Merc, but most turbo cars have intercoolers and are front mounted (FMIC), which is why there is no scoop.

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Subaru runs top mounted (TMIC) perhaps due to lack of space in the engine bay.

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You are right! I went to trace turbo path on my Merc and yes, there is a small FMIC forward of, and below the radiator. But the compressed air path to and from IC is convulated when compared to Legacy. Even the IC is smaller compared to the Legacy.

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Maybe the TMIC of Subaru is less of a compromise as it allows for shorter, straighter compressed air path with stronger cooling power of a larger IC.

You are right! I went to trace turbo path on my Merc and yes, there is a small FMIC forward of, and below the radiator. But the compressed air path to and from IC is convulated when compared to Legacy. Even the IC is smaller compared to the Legacy.

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Maybe the TMIC of Subaru is less of a compromise as it allows for shorter, straighter compressed air path with stronger cooling power of a larger IC.

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I think mercs use smaller low pressure turbos, so they might not need such a big intercooler...

Hi, understand that that car that get the Cevs discount that at the end of 10 yrs, they will need to paid back half at end of 10 yrs. may i know so for those car that is paying extra due to Cevs, will they get back half after 10 yrs instead? Ty

Hi, understand that that car that get the Cevs discount that at the end of 10 yrs, they will need to paid back half at end of 10 yrs. may i know so for those car that is paying extra due to Cevs, will they get back half after 10 yrs instead? Ty

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Next 2.0i

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Any existing XT owners able to tell where the differences?

Any existing XT owners able to tell where the differences?

Front and rear light.
Better equipment.

Any existing XT owners able to tell where the differences?

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Full list of differences can be found here� :

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Any existing XT owners able to tell where the differences?

No roof rack

Hi, understand that that car that get the Cevs discount that at the end of 10 yrs, they will need to paid back half at end of 10 yrs. may i know so for those car that is paying extra due to Cevs, will they get back half after 10 yrs instead? Ty

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you should change the way you look at it:

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CEVS discount will reduce your ARF by the value of CEVS, so it means that your CEVS reduce your PARF by 50% of the CEVS.

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But when you pay a CEVS penalty, it is a separate surcharge that does not affect your ARF and therefore you do not get back 50% of your penalty.

Hi, I'm intending to get the FXT. Are there any club or Whatsapp group around?

Any existing XT owners able to tell where the differences?

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Digital speedo in the dashboard, plus it's coloured!

Just booked FXT today. Blue color. Glad to join the family. How to join the Whatsapp group?

After further research, realized in most countries, Forester is more expensive than it's peer. However, in Singapore, it is cheapest amongst it's competitor instead.

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Besides, many countries, their N.A. vs XT has quiet a bigger gap as compare over here.

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After further research, realized in most countries, Forester is more expensive than it's peer. However, in Singapore, it is cheapest amongst it's competitor instead.

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errrrr maybe its the thing they put (or did not put) in local Forester??�

in angmoh countries ... AWD seems a big thing ... premium

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errrrr maybe its the thing they put (or did not put) in local Forester??�

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in angmoh countries ... AWD seems a big thing ... premium

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hmm seem like it... like the american like their mustank muscle car.... vroom vroom vroom.....� [laugh]

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Obviously our dear Bro Mustank also like it....� [:p]

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Anyone trade-in your car to MI.. Is the trade-in price offer by MI reasonable ?�

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Just booked FXT today. Blue color. Glad to join the family. How to join the Whatsapp group?

you sure you wanna join the Whatsapp group? Can handle 100 message a day? Don't join then leave group after that hehe

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Anyone trade-in your car to MI.. Is the trade-in price offer by MI reasonable ?

Thanks!

reasonable is subjective... I think the price is ok, at least they didn't offer me just 5k above scrap for 7.5year old car but i sell myself by placing $90 ad on SGcarmart got $3k more than their trade in price.. Up to u to decide which route you wanna take..

you sure you wanna join the Whatsapp group? Can handle 100 message a day? Don't join then leave group after that hehe..

You did not warn about the poison in the whatsapp group...

You did not warn about the poison in the whatsapp group...

no poison.. no poison.. hahaha, all sweet and beautiful.. just making wallet lighter

Sigh. 1st big bruise on my Forester on Sunday night 8pm. An irresponsible driver (staying at the same HDB estate) just let his passenger open the door widely and whack my car door twice, can even hear it from my car dash cam recording.

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bro, I feel for you...if there isn't much of a dent, go buy a touch-up paint to cover the spot...it'll make you feel much better... [nod]

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Anyone trade-in your car to MI.. Is the trade-in price offer by MI reasonable ?�

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Had an offer from MI for trade-in of my car, but as I was not in a rush, tried sell on sgcarmart, in the end sold off in 4 day's time, got $6K more than MI's offer for my 8.5yrs old LGTW...then straight to sign on the paper with MI for the FXT... :)

Wow, seem like the SE carrot me. SE only give me ~500 + paper value for my trade in 9.5 yrs old car.

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Did yr SE still give you further discount as u didnt trade in yr car to him? Ty

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Had an offer from MI for trade-in of my car, but as I was not in a rush, tried sell on sgcarmart, in the end sold off in 4 day's time, got $6K more than MI's offer for my 8.5yrs old LGTW...then straight to sign on the paper with MI for the FXT... :)

Edited by Axela72, 01 December 2015 - 11:45 AM.

Can I check with you guys, does your interior lights sort of like flicker when u are in D? Mine flickers while in D, but stay lighted when in P.

Wow, seem like the SE carrot me. SE only give me ~500 + paper value for my trade in 9.5 yrs old car.

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Did yr SE still give you further discount as u didnt trade in yr car to him? Ty

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9.5yrs old car no one want to buy already lah..

Also difficult to sell off, that's why I still waiting on the bench for the FXT.�

My COE expire next July.

No leh. you see below link. Dealer still willing to pay $400 to 1k each mth on top of paper value till scrap. So 6 mth left can get�at least� $2.4k (400 X 6) + paper value. Pls correct me if I am wrong.

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9.5yrs old car no one want to buy already lah..

Also difficult to sell off, that's why I still waiting on the bench for the FXT.�

My COE expire next July.

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No leh. you see below link. Dealer still willing to pay $400 to 1k each mth on top of paper value till scrap. So 6 mth left can get�at least� $2.4k (400 X 6) + paper value. Pls correct me if I am wrong.

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http://www.mycarforu...d-of/?p=5654471

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Your SE sure knows how to enjoy carrot juice :)� Take from here and give you some�there...balancing act.� Your discounts and freebies must come from somewhere. No free lunch, you know...

Wow, seem like the SE carrot me. SE only give me ~500 + paper value for my trade in 9.5 yrs old car.

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Did yr SE still give you further discount as u didnt trade in yr car to him? Ty

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Nope...can't squeeze any further liao...only managed to get freebies of car mat, & rear bumper protector (black plastic with Forester word)...

Can I check with you guys, does your interior lights sort of like flicker when u are in D? Mine flickers while in D, but stay lighted when in P.

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Hmm...seems like battery not enough juice...? Better send into MI for a check in your next servicing...

oic. so in�the past post�from this topic whereby ppls mentioned typically can get 2 to 3k discount are those with car trade in then. Isn't that is�the cost of the cost their own car instead of discount from SE?

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Nope...can't squeeze any further liao...only managed to get freebies of car mat, & rear bumper protector (black plastic with Forester word)...

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bro, I feel for you...if there isn't much of a dent, go buy a touch-up paint to cover the spot...it'll make you feel much better...

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Had an offer from MI for trade-in of my car, but as I was not in a rush, tried sell on sgcarmart, in the end sold off in 4 day's time, got $6K more than MI's offer for my 8.5yrs old LGTW...then straight to sign on the paper with MI for the FXT... :)

Thanks bro for the reply.

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I am looking at 2.0i to replace my current ride.

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I guess will try sgcarmart too before commit with MI.

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Sigh. 1st big bruise on my Forester on Sunday night 8pm. An irresponsible driver (staying at the same HDB estate) just let his passenger open the door widely and whack my car door twice, can even hear it from my car dash cam recording.

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wah lau eh.. sian right.. part and parcel of car ownership :(

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i saw alot of FXT with dents liao..

Sigh. 1st big bruise on my Forester on Sunday night 8pm. An irresponsible driver (staying at the same HDB estate) just let his passenger open the door widely and whack my car door twice, can even hear it from my car dash cam recording.

Share your pain :( :( :(
Don't understand why there is a need to open the door that hard .
Console yourself by telling ....outside of the car belong to others...maybe feel better.

Hi, anyone here even come across this Subaru cylinder brake stopper local shop got carry into Singapore.�

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Looking for 2015 Forester model.

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Thanks in advance.

bro, I feel for you...if there isn't much of a dent, go buy a touch-up paint to cover the spot...it'll make you feel much better...

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Had an offer from MI for trade-in of my car, but as I was not in a rush, tried sell on sgcarmart, in the end sold off in 4 day's time, got $6K more than MI's offer for my 8.5yrs old LGTW...then straight to sign on the paper with MI for the FXT... :)

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hi Grisson, just like to check how is the exchange of $$$ being handled?

cos also planning to get Forester next year, and with my LGT fully paid up, how do I ensure I get back all the cash.

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many thanks...

hi Grisson, just like to check how is the exchange of $$$ being handled?

cos also planning to get Forester next year, and with my LGT fully paid up, how do I ensure I get back all the cash.

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many thanks...

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Hi bro, do you mean the transaction of my ex-ride...? �If yes, already pm-ed you liao... :)

Hi all, virgin post.

Was scouting for Forester information and this thread seems to be informative and active. Did a test drive last week on XT and mostly likely getting it.

What is holding me back now is the facelifted version when its coming.

Edited by evo171, 02 December 2015 - 09:17 AM.

Hi all, virgin post.

Was scouting for Forester information and this thread seems to be informative and active. Did a test drive last week on XT and mostly likely getting it.

What is holding me back now is the facelifted version when its coming.

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Good choice bro to get the XT...Someone saw a 2016 facelift version arrrived at MI think few days ago, but not too sure when they'll put it on display at the showroom...some SE commented that probably Mar'16 may release the sales details of the facelift...?

Good choice bro to get the XT...Someone saw a 2016 facelift version arrrived at MI think few days ago, but not too sure when they'll put it on display at the showroom...some SE commented that probably Mar'16 may release the sales details of the facelift...?

I asked two different SE but both say no info. Seems like MI keeping mum at the moment.

My thought is dont wait liao. Get one the soonest and after 5yrs, trade in for the next latest better model. By that time, at least we can drive until 2030. That will be probably the last car for many ppls here can or willing to�afford before COE is 200k at Y2025 as below:

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9.5yrs old car no one want to buy already lah..

Also difficult to sell off, that's why I still waiting on the bench for the FXT.�

My COE expire next July.

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Was told by SE there was a recent facelift in May 2015. Can senior advise what was the changes then?

Hi bro, do you mean the transaction of my ex-ride...? �If yes, already pm-ed you liao... :)

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Side track abit and sorry to all bros here.

Can you pm me the process of pte settlement of selling car ma?

I'm keen to sell off my car by myself just that don't know the process well..

Thanks Thanks..

Was told by SE there was a recent facelift in May 2015. Can senior advise what was the changes then?

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The recent is not a facelift...the new items added are the head unit is a different model, & a boost meter in the front dash screen...think that's all...

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Side track abit and sorry to all bros here.

Can you pm me the process of pte settlement of selling car ma?

I'm keen to sell off my car by myself just that don't know the process well..

Thanks Thanks..

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Its quite straight forward if in a direct buyer-seller deal. pm-ed you liao... :)

Edited by Grisson, 02 December 2015 - 03:23 PM.

Good choice bro to get the XT...Someone saw a 2016 facelift version arrrived at MI think few days ago, but not too sure when they'll put it on display at the showroom...some SE commented that probably Mar'16 may release the sales details of the facelift...?

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Bring in for LTA approval and potentially catch CNY buyers?...

That could be the reason...

What do you all do/apply/add once you got the new ride? Heard MI very strict on 3rd party addons. Even tire also have to get from Stamford or them?

What do you all do/apply/add once you got the new ride? Heard MI very strict on 3rd party addons. Even tire also have to get from Stamford or them?

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Suppose only apply only during warranty period. Once that over can do what we want .

Just make sure all this same size and same amount if wear on the threads.

I remember someone here mentioned Turbo car does not require to wait for�2 min before start and shutdown. Below is a post that mentioned it is recommended�to prolong�it's life (btw, there are others that mentioned�such practice from other post�before):

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Well, lemme put it this way, it's a Subaru Forester. It's not meant for speed, it's not meant for handling, it's meant for a family to carry crap in comfortably.

Yes you will gain power buy utilizing a turbocharger, power that you will rarely use in a family vehicle. A turbocharger utilizes exhaust gasses as a power supply, producing horsepower ONLY when your vehicle is putting out enough exhaust gasses for it to spin up. That only happens when you're already driving. So yes, you'd get more power to accelerate after you've already accelerated to a somewhat reasonable speed.

Next, look at the fuel costs. As you stated it requires premium fuel. I don't know what that runs for in your area but around here it's about another 40 cents per gallon. With a 16.9 gallon tank (rounded to 17 for easy math), estimating a tank a week, that's an extra $.80 per tank, $353.60 per year, or $1768 over a 5 year lifespan.

Finally, maintenance. It's recommended that you give your vehicle 2 minutes of operation before you drive at a speed that allows the turbocharger to spin up, and another 2 before you turn the car off. Admittedly not a lot of people follow this, but that is the recommendation. They rarely break down, but if/when they do it's a somewhat major repair. In addition to repairing/replacing the turbocharger you have to have your engine inspected for damage, increasing both the money and time spent repairing it.

Put bluntly, if it wasn't a family car I'd consider it. If it were a little more nimble, or a little quicker, I personally wouldn't mind having a turbocharger. But it's a family car, it's meant to carry your kids and your stuff from Point A to Point B in a comfortable, safe manner. It's not meant for the track, it's not meant to zip in and out of traffic, and it's not meant to race kids in Mustangs driving down the highway.

Put bluntly, if it wasn't a family car I'd consider it. If it were a little more nimble, or a little quicker, I personally wouldn't mind having a turbocharger. But it's a family car, it's meant to carry your kids and your stuff from Point A to Point B in a comfortable, safe manner. It's not meant for the track, it's not meant to zip in and out of traffic, and it's not meant to race kids in Mustangs driving down the highway.

I couldn't have said it better. Coming from LGT, it's really nothing to shout about, not in terms of speed, handling, or agility. It's just a safe, taller vehicle which my passengers prefer. It can't corner for nuts despite being the XT version, it's heavy and sluggish unless you boost, and then your fuel efficiency goes down. It's not very luxurious or high class, or has lots of bells and whistles, and with the CVT, not that engaging to drive anyway.

I only buy it because there is not that many choices at that price.
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hi Grisson, just like to check how is the exchange of $$$ being handled?
cos also planning to get Forester next year, and with my LGT fully paid up, how do I ensure I get back all the cash.

many thanks...

From my experience, if you are trading your current car to your SE on the day of your new car collection, they will hand you the cheque on the car collection day. If you are deregistering your current car on the date when your new car arrives, you will need to wait around 4 weeks for LTA to give you back the cash for dereg to the owner of the vehicle. This is for Nissan, could be the same for Subaru.

Put bluntly, if it wasn't a family car I'd consider it. If it were a little more nimble, or a little quicker, I personally wouldn't mind having a turbocharger. But it's a family car, it's meant to carry your kids and your stuff from Point A to Point B in a comfortable, safe manner. It's not meant for the track, it's not meant to zip in and out of traffic, and it's not meant to race kids in Mustangs driving down the highway.
I couldn't have said it better. Coming from LGT, it's really nothing to shout about, not in terms of speed, handling, or agility. It's just a safe, taller vehicle which my passengers prefer. It can't corner for nuts despite being the XT version, it's heavy and sluggish unless you boost, and then your fuel efficiency goes down. It's not very luxurious or high class, or has lots of bells and whistles, and with the CVT, not that engaging to drive anyway.
I only buy it because there is not that many choices at that price.

I kinda disagree bro. For its price point, the added power is a bonus. While not a sports car, the power available on tap do give more confidence in traffic condition which usually are not found in such SUV class. ( ignore cars like x6 etc).

So while u should drive and treat it like at normal car, do be happy to know when needed the power is there to do your bidding.

Sweeping statement aside. Should have some context of where the writer is from. Many friends I know in the States have multiple vehicles, a suv/mpv for ferrying the kids and groceries, a weekend fun ride for trills. Trills depends on what they like, it could be a offroader or a performance sports car for kicks. Bottom line is, the cars are more affordable and options aplenty.

Here in SG, I for one can only afford a single car and I would try to make the best out of the resource available to me. So a spacious and comfortable day to day drive, with the knowledge that I have the capacity for "fun" when the weekends come.

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