Thứ Sáu, 30 tháng 12, 2016

2015 Forester 2.0 part 38

  • 18 May 2016 - 10:41 PM
    Sgysfj

    I think its indicated on my petrol cap Ron 95...

    Need to check

    Oso read in tis thread some SE mentioned can pump 92
  • 18 May 2016 - 11:26 PM
    BrandonTan

    I managed to hit 12.3km/ltr for my 2.0i-L. 60%highway. The FC is pretty good compared for its weight and engine capacity

    After 6 months of ownership, my FXT best mileage is from full tank to almost empty can clock 630km. Worst is 480km.


  • 18 May 2016 - 11:56 PM
    razor54

    After 6 months of ownership, my FXT best mileage is from full tank to almost empty can clock 630km. Worst is 480km.

    So far after 2 months with the FXT, best I've achieved from full tank to fuel indicator lighting up is 540km.

    On an average, it's around 9-11km/L per tank depending on more highway or more urban.

    I think it's very reasonable FC for a car with such power output. The power is pretty addictive I must say. Enjoying every drive in the car, rain or shine.
  • 19 May 2016 - 10:19 AM
    wheelogist

    So far after 2 months with the FXT, best I've achieved from full tank to fuel indicator lighting up is 540km.

    On an average, it's around 9-11km/L per tank depending on more highway or more urban.

    I think it's very reasonable FC for a car with such power output. The power is pretty addictive I must say. Enjoying every drive in the car, rain or shine.

    Thats about the actual FC. From indicator on to empty , it should usually have another 50km to 80km fuel left in the tank. So total milage is about 600km/tank of 60 litre = 10km/L
    This is almost same as my 6yrs 1.6L hyundai avante averaging 10-10.5km/L. Considering the FXT is a 2.0L turbo, it is condsidered good.
  • 19 May 2016 - 12:39 PM
    GoodCar

    I think FC is pretty much dependent on the driver. I used to drive a 2.5L V6 and achievement 12km+/L in mixed driving. Those more powerful cars can actually achieve some pretty surprising good FC coz they only require you to step lightly on the accelerator pedal to move on. I hope i can hit 10km/L with my incoming XT. Anyway, i'm average footed and not those very light footed drivers. I dun accelerate fast from stop, but I do try to keep up with traffic flow. Always take 1st lane in HW too.
    Glad that I secured my coe today at 1st bid! My contract with MI is actually a 8 bid non-guaranteed, but somehow they did it in just 1 bid. Now waiting for car collection which will be before end of May.



    Mata girl say: I hate you, I hate you, why u have I boh.......woo woo..weep weep.


    Sorry bro, my mata girl ????, she too addicted to the XT Liao, if XT price still go up some more...I cannot imagine what she will do :p

    Congratulation on your new ride:D
  • 19 May 2016 - 01:09 PM
    MQX87511

    Dunno leh. japan have so many spec.

    http://members.subar....php#t=forester

    Click on each model to see the fuel cost on the left.

    wah! Japan domestic FXT 206KW equal to 280bhp, how come it give other countries only fark 177KW/238bhp :a-aggressive:


  • 19 May 2016 - 01:18 PM
    WML888

    wah! Japan domestic FXT 206KW equal to 280bhp, how come it give other countries only fark 177KW/238bhp :a-aggressive:

    May be to give�flexibility to tune ? And all the way to 320bhp/400N-m is possible ?


  • 19 May 2016 - 01:34 PM
    Tohto

    wah! Japan domestic FXT 206KW equal to 280bhp, how come it give other countries only fark 177KW/238bhp :a-aggressive:

    I think in Japan, the XT will likely need to use the Ron 100 petrol to get the 280bhp output.

    Most others country only had Ron 98.

    USA XT are tuned to 250bhp.


  • 19 May 2016 - 01:38 PM
    Tunge

    I noticed that a lot of comments here about how they derive the FC is via

    - See mileage covered from full tank till low fuel indicator; or

    - based on the readings as stated on the monitor

    But I think the best and most accurate way to calculate FC is to reset the tripometer to zero after pumping full tank and then on the next time you pump to full tank again, take note of how much fuel is actually pumped as indicated on the receipt and divide by the mileage shown on the tripometer.


  • 19 May 2016 - 02:06 PM
    Tohto

    I noticed that a lot of comments here about how they derive the FC is via

    - See mileage covered from full tank till low fuel indicator; or

    - based on the readings as stated on the monitor

    But I think the best and most accurate way to calculate FC is to reset the tripometer to zero after pumping full tank and then on the next time you pump to full tank again, take note of how much fuel is actually pumped as indicated on the receipt and divide by the mileage shown on the tripometer.

    My record for last 4 tank. Top is manual calculation (Distance/L). Bottom is from FC meter (already converted to km/L)

    It was recorded in excel but I can't copy and paste.

    FC (km) 9.717, �9.331, �9.286, �10.023

    Meter FC 10.64, �10.00, 10.00, �10.64


    Edited by Tohto, 19 May 2016 - 02:09 PM.

  • 19 May 2016 - 02:30 PM
    Quantum

    May be to give flexibility to tune ? And all the way to 320bhp/400N-m is possible ?

    After market tuning might short mechanical parts lifespan, its structure cannot tahan so high power and torque
  • 19 May 2016 - 03:29 PM
    Icecube187

    My record for last 4 tank. Top is manual calculation (Distance/L). Bottom is from FC meter (already converted to km/L)

    It was recorded in excel but I can't copy and paste.

    FC (km) 9.717, �9.331, �9.286, �10.023

    Meter FC 10.64, �10.00, 10.00, �10.64

    Yes, I also noted that the onboard FC meter shows a better FC as compared to actual.

    Averaging out 4 tanks, my NA FC is 11km/ltr, for 70% city 30% highway.


    Edited by Icecube187, 19 May 2016 - 03:31 PM.

  • 19 May 2016 - 04:09 PM
    Sgysfj

    Yes, I also noted that the onboard FC meter shows a better FC as compared to actual.

    Averaging out 4 tanks, my NA FC is 11km/ltr, for 70% city 30% highway.

    Hi Bro

    For ur NA u using Ron 95? Wondering if NA can use 92
  • 19 May 2016 - 04:35 PM
    Jthl

    Hi Bro

    For ur NA u using Ron 95? Wondering if NA can use 92

    Ron 92 and 95 not much price difference.

    Not worth the risk for the car which is worth more than $100K.�


  • 19 May 2016 - 04:40 PM
    Sgysfj

    Ron 92 and 95 not much price difference.

    Not worth the risk for the car which is worth more than $100K.

    True also
  • 19 May 2016 - 04:51 PM
    Tohto

    Ron 92 and 95 not much price difference.

    Not worth the risk for the car which is worth more than $100K.�

    Fully agreed. already spend so much money here and still want to save a few $$ per month on petrol.


  • 19 May 2016 - 05:13 PM
    jg2000

    The Malaysia assembly plant is owned by TCMA(Which is different from TCIL), not MI.

    TC Subaru Sdn Bhd(owned by Motor Image International Pte Ltd) have an agreement with TCMA to assemble the cars. TCMA also assemble cars for brands like Nissan, Mitsubishi and Renault.

    Not only Singapore, as I believe Philippines's Subarus also from Japan factory.

    My bad - not MI but sister company TCMA - or actually, more father son companies?�� :-)


    Hi Bro

    For ur NA u using Ron 95? Wondering if NA can use 92

    For some other countries can but for Singapore, CANNOT as the version sent here is tuned for RON 95.

    Anything lower will likely cause problem to the vehicle and void warranty.



  • 19 May 2016 - 05:18 PM
    wheelogist

    True also

    From my experience, higher grade petrol gives better milage on the same car. I tried both 98 and 95. 98 always gave me higher milage/tank than 95. So cheaper 95 = less milage
    In the end total cost about the same. Higher grade petrol burns more efficiently thus smoother engine performance.
  • 19 May 2016 - 05:30 PM
    Tunge

    My record for last 4 tank. Top is manual calculation (Distance/L). Bottom is from FC meter (already converted to km/L)

    It was recorded in excel but I can't copy and paste.

    FC (km) 9.717, �9.331, �9.286, �10.023

    Meter FC 10.64, �10.00, 10.00, �10.64

    That's pretty decent FC for a 2.0L. :a-good:�Considering I'm getting similar FC on my 9yr old Lancer GLX 1.6


  • 19 May 2016 - 05:32 PM
    suprememan

    Hi,

    After a period of consideration. Aim to get 2.0i forester coming this fews mth.

    As this is the first car im going to purchase. Any guru here can share of your purchase price, freebies, insurance premium (i got NCD from Malaysia), loan interest.�

    Anything need to take note before sign the dotted line.

    Thanks for comment and feedback.


  • 19 May 2016 - 05:45 PM
    Kman08

    After market tuning might short mechanical parts lifespan, its structure cannot tahan so high power and torque

    Within means can la. Subarus are strong dont do nonsense over the limit modes and you have a car that will make you grin all the time.. 10yrs on mine still make me smile :)


    wah! Japan domestic FXT 206KW equal to 280bhp, how come it give other countries only fark 177KW/238bhp :a-aggressive:

    If i am not mistaken its the new wrx power. Cant remember now exactly but a simple tune will get it up to wrx power without any add ons.


  • 19 May 2016 - 06:40 PM
    Tohto

    Within means can la. Subarus are strong dont do nonsense over the limit modes and you have a car that will make you grin all the time.. 10yrs on mine still make me smile :)

    If i am not mistaken its the new wrx power. Cant remember now exactly but a simple tune will get it up to wrx power without any add ons.

    FXT should be same engine as WRX. Just different tuning only.
  • 19 May 2016 - 06:49 PM
    GoodCar

    Hi,

    After a period of consideration. Aim to get 2.0i forester coming this fews mth.

    As this is the first car im going to purchase. Any guru here can share of your purchase price, freebies, insurance premium (i got NCD from Malaysia), loan interest.�

    Anything need to take note before sign the dotted line.

    Thanks for comment and feedback.

    Must bo mata....another one addicted ...hahahaha


  • 19 May 2016 - 07:59 PM
    WML888

    After market tuning might short mechanical parts lifespan, its structure cannot tahan so high power and torque

    For my usage on SG road and occasional trips up north, 230+bhp/350N-m�good enough. ��


  • 19 May 2016 - 08:21 PM
    jedi2804

  • 20 May 2016 - 01:12 PM
    razor54

    Hi all, I am collecting My FXT soon, first time having turbo car, can anyone advise how to run-in the engine, especially those that can achieve 12 km/ltr or better.
    Thank you.

    Not much difference from running in a non-turbo car. Just follow the instructions from the manual of the FXT for the 1st 1600km. There's still plentiful of torque available even within the run-in rpms.

    No secrets to good FC except the pressure from your right foot and types of road conditions after your run-in period. Unless you are calculating a single trip FC which is highway cruising, it is unlikely to see 12km/L FC under normal driving in a FXT. It will hover between 9-11 km/L usually on average per tank (for my type of driving at least).

    Enjoy your new car and drive safe!

    Edited by razor54, 20 May 2016 - 01:22 PM.

  • 20 May 2016 - 01:16 PM
    Jerrimie

    You mean S# all the way� [:)]

    he wanted 12km/l on FXT ma remove snail is easiest way


  • 20 May 2016 - 01:21 PM
    razor54

    Hi all, new here. Collected my FXT end of march. 1600km now and I've noticed several problems:

    1. High pitch squeaking/screeching sound from brakes during low speed gentle braking
    2. Reverse speed sometimes 3km/h, sometimes 5km/h. Small diff but it's very noticeable
    3. Car can still move forward in D without pressing accelerator even with handbrake applied and moved up 2 clicks. Is this normal for AWD car?
    4. Exterior plastic at base of car whitening abit. Esp on rear bumper
    5. Water droplets remain in rear taillight when washing the car

    Anyone else experience these problems? Hope I'm not the only one...

    That's quite a number of issues you are facing...

    1. No screeching sound for my brakes. Screeching sounds from brakes could be due to oil contamination on the pads/rotors. Highlight it during your next servicing.
    2&3. Could be due to uneven ground gradients during those experiences?
    4. No whitening on mine after 4000km in rain or shine.
    5. Get that checked out during next servicing. There should not be water in any light housings where there is electrical current.

    If it worries you before your next servicing, you can always contact MI to check.
  • 20 May 2016 - 05:48 PM
    FXT

    That's quite a number of issues you are facing...

    1. No screeching sound for my brakes. Screeching sounds from brakes could be due to oil contamination on the pads/rotors. Highlight it during your next servicing.
    2&3. Could be due to uneven ground gradients during those experiences?
    4. No whitening on mine after 4000km in rain or shine.
    5. Get that checked out during next servicing. There should not be water in any light housings where there is electrical current.

    If it worries you before your next servicing, you can always contact MI to check.

    Thanks for the reply. I still love the car but idk why mine got so many problems

    1. According to my service adviser, the brake sound is normal cause of the recent rainy weather so rust forms abit on the brakes and gets scraped off. But from experience the sound can't be normal especially for a new car. In fact I first noticed the noises at like 850km last month and it's quite loud
    2&3. Ground is definitely level. I noticed the diff reverse speeds when reversing out of my home driveway both times. Seems like reverse speed is slower (3km/h instead of 5) after reversing when the car has been sitting overnight or 1 full day unused. But a bit weird cause I let the engine warm up until the blue cold engine light is gone and the RPMs drop to normal idle
    5. The water droplets seem to stay around the edge of the taillight not in contact with the bulb. But idk if this is normal. The Subaru BRZ review on sgcarmart also commented on water droplets in taillight

    What about the rest? Has anyone experienced these problems too?

    Edited by FXT, 20 May 2016 - 05:55 PM.

  • 20 May 2016 - 06:31 PM
    dlys
    Don't have similar problems with my FXT (8.5km mileage). All of them don't sound 'normal' and you should not accept such an answer from MI. They should replace and repair the affected parts under the warranty.
  • 20 May 2016 - 06:36 PM
    Jamesgetz

    Thanks for the reply. I still love the car but idk why mine got so many problems

    1. According to my service adviser, the brake sound is normal cause of the recent rainy weather so rust forms abit on the brakes and gets scraped off. But from experience the sound can't be normal especially for a new car. In fact I first noticed the noises at like 850km last month and it's quite loud
    2&3. Ground is definitely level. I noticed the diff reverse speeds when reversing out of my home driveway both times. Seems like reverse speed is slower (3km/h instead of 5) after reversing when the car has been sitting overnight or 1 full day unused. But a bit weird cause I let the engine warm up until the blue cold engine light is gone and the RPMs drop to normal idle
    5. The water droplets seem to stay around the edge of the taillight not in contact with the bulb. But idk if this is normal. The Subaru BRZ review on sgcarmart also commented on water droplets in taillight

    What about the rest? Has anyone experienced these problems too?


    Go back to MI and let them check the brakes and tail lamps. Mine has no sounds when braking and no water in the lamp housing. Sometimes at slow speeds when parking after car wash but hardly any sounds. Maybe some dirt/small stones got stuck in your brakes. Singapore roads damn dirty nowadays with so much construction...

    When you are reversing, shouldn't you be watching the rear camera or outside your car (rather than your speed) to make sure u don't bump into anything...

    Have you tried washing away the white patches/spots on the black plastic parts? Could be due to wax as MI/Subaru will groom the car before delivery. Or it could just be road dirt/dust which shows up easily on black plastic parts
  • 20 May 2016 - 06:51 PM
    Rachdanom
    I googled and found in US forums this "condensation" in the lights housing seems generally accepted as part of design, that it will vent away etc..

    http://www.subarufor.../247913?page=10
  • 20 May 2016 - 07:29 PM
    Icarus

    Anyone switched their fog lamp bulbs with some LEDs?... Thinking of getting the Philips Ultinon LEDs H16


    Edited by Icarus, 20 May 2016 - 07:33 PM.

  • 20 May 2016 - 08:39 PM
    Tohto

    Thanks for the reply. I still love the car but idk why mine got so many problems

    1. According to my service adviser, the brake sound is normal cause of the recent rainy weather so rust forms abit on the brakes and gets scraped off. But from experience the sound can't be normal especially for a new car. In fact I first noticed the noises at like 850km last month and it's quite loud
    2&3. Ground is definitely level. I noticed the diff reverse speeds when reversing out of my home driveway both times. Seems like reverse speed is slower (3km/h instead of 5) after reversing when the car has been sitting overnight or 1 full day unused. But a bit weird cause I let the engine warm up until the blue cold engine light is gone and the RPMs drop to normal idle
    5. The water droplets seem to stay around the edge of the taillight not in contact with the bulb. But idk if this is normal. The Subaru BRZ review on sgcarmart also commented on water droplets in taillight

    What about the rest? Has anyone experienced these problems too?

    The water droplet is normal lah. It is at a corner that the cloth cannot reach when drying the car. But is still outside. It will dry by itself.
    As for when you let go the brake, it is also normal. My previous car also same. This can help to prevent the car from rolling back.
    As for reverse, it seems the programme to be at a very slow for safety reason.
  • 20 May 2016 - 08:55 PM
    Bluemice

    To use the pin code once it was set already.

    You need to disable the system to make it ignore the key in the car before you use the code. So you can use the code to lock the car.

    After opening the car with the code, you should enable back the key function.

    alu foils does the trick quite well of blocking key signals.


    Anyone switched their fog lamp bulbs with some LEDs?... Thinking of getting the Philips Ultinon LEDs H16

    chged to 80W white cree led bulbs from rakuten


  • 20 May 2016 - 09:31 PM
    FXT

    Go back to MI and let them check the brakes and tail lamps. Mine has no sounds when braking and no water in the lamp housing. Sometimes at slow speeds when parking after car wash but hardly any sounds. Maybe some dirt/small stones got stuck in your brakes. Singapore roads damn dirty nowadays with so much construction...

    When you are reversing, shouldn't you be watching the rear camera or outside your car (rather than your speed) to make sure u don't bump into anything...

    Have you tried washing away the white patches/spots on the black plastic parts? Could be due to wax as MI/Subaru will groom the car before delivery. Or it could just be road dirt/dust which shows up easily on black plastic parts

    Not really patches/spots on the exterior black plastic. It's more like white streaks, somewhat like abrasion. Very unlikely that I unknowingly hit something though. Cause the white streaks are at different places on the rear bumper. I tried using armorall protectant gel. Didn't work. I'll see whether MI can get this fixed when they check the brakes at the same time.
  • 20 May 2016 - 09:39 PM
    FXT

    The water droplet is normal lah. It is at a corner that the cloth cannot reach when drying the car. But is still outside. It will dry by itself.
    As for when you let go the brake, it is also normal. My previous car also same. This can help to prevent the car from rolling back.
    As for reverse, it seems the programme to be at a very slow for safety reason.

    After googling water droplets in Subaru BRZ taillights, I guess the water droplets I see on my car are normal

    I read somewhere that the handbrake applies a backup drum brake (separate from the disc brake) on the rear wheels. So it's normal for AWD car to continue moving forward in D, on level ground, even with handbrake up 2 clicks without foot on accelerator? My previous FWD Toyota MPV wouldn't move with handbrake applied
  • 21 May 2016 - 12:33 AM
    Sarion

    I read somewhere that the handbrake applies a backup drum brake (separate from the disc brake) on the rear wheels. So it's normal for AWD car to continue moving forward in D, on level ground, even with handbrake up 2 clicks without foot on accelerator? My previous FWD Toyota MPV wouldn't move with handbrake applied

    c'mon, you have over 200bhp in FXT and why would you think the drum brake pads will hold when gear is in 'D'? shouldn't it be in N or P?

    the drum brake pads are meant to last almost forever, which also means they wear very slowly and doesn't grip that well.

    I have driven my previous car all the way up multi-storey carpark and parked, after dropping off family at drop-off point, then realized handbrake was on. and that was only 170bhp car.


  • 21 May 2016 - 09:16 AM
    Jamesgetz

    Not really patches/spots on the exterior black plastic. It's more like white streaks, somewhat like abrasion. Very unlikely that I unknowingly hit something though. Cause the white streaks are at different places on the rear bumper. I tried using armorall protectant gel. Didn't work. I'll see whether MI can get this fixed when they check the brakes at the same time.


    Try getting this from Stamford tyres or autobacs. in the long run, it's inevitable that black plastic parts will dull
    http://www.amazon.co...r/dp/B0055PD1H4
  • 21 May 2016 - 09:22 AM
    Jamesgetz

    After googling water droplets in Subaru BRZ taillights, I guess the water droplets I see on my car are normal

    I read somewhere that the handbrake applies a backup drum brake (separate from the disc brake) on the rear wheels. So it's normal for AWD car to continue moving forward in D, on level ground, even with handbrake up 2 clicks without foot on accelerator? My previous FWD Toyota MPV wouldn't move with handbrake applied


    Why do you keep mentioning 2 clicks? When you pull handbrake, you should lift it up with reasonable strength and distance rather than counting the number of clicks. If you need to pull the handbrake very high for it to be effective, MI can adjust it for you to be lower.

    And why are you in D gear when your handbrake is on? Shouldn't you be in P gear?
  • 21 May 2016 - 08:19 PM
    FXT
    Thanks for the replies. Will try out the meguiars plastic restorer. I applied the handbrake while waiting for traffic light when I noticed the car would still move forward. So I guess it's normal. I still have problems with the squeaking brakes though. Will need to get that checked. And has anyone else noticed the reverse speed is different sometimes? Not sure if it's a problem but it's definitely strange
  • 22 May 2016 - 12:32 AM
    Jamesgetz

    Thanks for the replies. Will try out the meguiars plastic restorer. I applied the handbrake while waiting for traffic light when I noticed the car would still move forward. So I guess it's normal. I still have problems with the squeaking brakes though. Will need to get that checked. And has anyone else noticed the reverse speed is different sometimes? Not sure if it's a problem but it's definitely strange


    At cold starts, the engine RPM will be higher so the engine may coast slightly faster without you stepping on the accelerator. But u seem to experience the other way round: car reverses faster at cold starts...

    Seriously, this is really something weird to be concerned with... Uneven ground, steering angle, throttle input could affect your reverse speed. And the speedometer won't be accurate at such low speeds and short distance.

    Pls Pay attention to your surroundings rather than noticing any difference in reverse speed, in case you ram into something or even someone... Drive safe
  • 22 May 2016 - 12:38 AM
    thefalcon

    Thanks for the replies. Will try out the meguiars plastic restorer. I applied the handbrake while waiting for traffic light when I noticed the car would still move forward. So I guess it's normal. I still have problems with the squeaking brakes though. Will need to get that checked. And has anyone else noticed the reverse speed is different sometimes? Not sure if it's a problem but it's definitely strange

    Dear Sir,�

    As a safety feature on any car, Hand brake is for use when the car is park with engine off to prevent the car to roll off. As at traffic light, you may use foot brake ( common practice ). If you like to have lower RPM, swift to "N" and use foot brake or hand brake.

    When the car is on "D" gear, it will try to move with the power suppose to, since "D" means drive. If the car can communicate, it will ask you "Why you set me to "drive" and you apply hand brake to stop me from doing it?"

    Please don't be offended, I'm just reasoning out of Logic.

    Happy Driving, FXT! �


  • 22 May 2016 - 12:42 AM
    Aviator2016

    Hi, have been considering Forester NA for awhile.

    Apart from the price quoted, what are the common items to ask or can be expected from SE?

    So far been quoted 3 free servicing 1k, 5k, 10k and floor mats.


  • 22 May 2016 - 01:37 AM
    Icecube187

    Hi, have been considering Forester NA for awhile.

    Apart from the price quoted, what are the common items to ask or can be expected from SE?
    So far been quoted 3 free servicing 1k, 5k, 10k and floor mats.

    Front + rear blackvue camera
    Front sensors
    20,30,40k (2yr) servicing package

    1,5,10k is not considered a freebie.

    Forget abt the car mats, cheap stuff buy yourself.
  • 22 May 2016 - 08:04 AM
    Hoseyboh
    Hi all
    Newbie here, just to share. Booked a XT yesterday at $120K. MI clearing stocks n need to hit target. All colours available except white. Thanks
  • 22 May 2016 - 08:48 AM
    Tunge

    Front + rear blackvue camera
    Front sensors
    20,30,40k (2yr) servicing package

    1,5,10k is not considered a freebie.

    Forget abt the car mats, cheap stuff buy yourself.


    Are all these what u managedto get fr ur SE? Or u mean these are the usual freebies to ask for but my or may not get
  • 22 May 2016 - 09:57 AM
    Rayleigh

    Hi all
    Newbie here, just to share. Booked a XT yesterday at $120K. MI clearing stocks n need to hit target. All colours available except white. Thanks

    Very good price.
  • 22 May 2016 - 10:01 AM
    Tohto

    Are all these what u managedto get fr ur SE? Or u mean these are the usual freebies to ask for but my or may not get


    MI are very stingy, so don't expect to get much from the all the SE.
  • 22 May 2016 - 10:01 AM
    Hoseyboh

    Very good price.


    Sorry, to be precise it's $120.6. Didn't read the Agreement properly.
  • 22 May 2016 - 10:20 AM
    Friendstar

    Sorry, to be precise it's $120.6. Didn't read the Agreement properly.

    Aiyo. 600 only.


    120.6 still a very good price!
  • 22 May 2016 - 11:46 AM
    wongexcel
    Today zaobao

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  • 22 May 2016 - 11:56 AM
    mrhan1982

    Hi all
    Newbie here, just to share. Booked a XT yesterday at $120K. MI clearing stocks n need to hit target. All colours available except white. Thanks

    Wa... I booked a red FL (last colour of ex-stock) a few weeks earlier than u but paid 123k (price including change leather seats to brown colour)...Zzzz.. Now their new stocks come with all colours so fast. They are getting aggressive. MI is a silent killer try to conquer more of the suv market here.

    Btw, any freebies u got from your SE besides the free carmat and first 3 servicings? I only got these. MI not so into giving freebies but they try to give us a no frills deal.�

    I'm still waiting to collect mine this coming fri or sat.

    Good to see there will be more and more xt out on the roads.�


    Today zaobao

    Looks like the XT is gaining more attention in Spore. its off-roading capabilities will be well appreciated even in our local roads. In recent years, I feel that our road conditions have become much worse than before: more pot holes, uneven patching (after digging), road works here and there, and more speed humps. My current sylphy suspension is taking quite a hit with all these road imperfections. I'm starting to hear creaking sounds from the rear suspension after 24k km.... Not sure if any bros out there are feeling the same punishments to your rides?


  • 22 May 2016 - 12:01 PM
    Swaku

    Wa... I booked a red FL (last colour of ex-stock) a few weeks earlier than u but paid 123k (price including change leather seats to brown colour)...Zzzz.. Now their new stocks come with all colours so fast. They are getting aggressive. MI is a silent killer try to conquer more of the suv market here.
    Btw, any freebies u got from your SE besides the free carmat and first 3 servicings? I only got these. MI not so into giving freebies but they try to give us a no frills deal.
    I'm still waiting to collect mine this coming fri or sat.

    Good to see there will be more and more xt out on the roads.


    Looks like the XT is gaining more attention in Spore. its off-roading capabilities will be well appreciated even in our local roads. In recent years, I feel that our road conditions have become much worse than before: more pot holes, uneven patching (after digging), road works here and there, and more speed humps. My current sylphy suspension is taking quite a hit with all these road imperfections. I'm starting to hear creaking sounds from the rear suspension after 24k km.... Not sure if any bros out there are feeling the same punishments to your rides?

    I agree the road conditions sucks these days. Many road works and they last for a long time too. That's the reason why I took out my coilover from my current car as I also buay tahan too. Looking forward to collecting the new car soon. My wife told me "No more lowering car ok!". Ha..
  • 22 May 2016 - 12:23 PM
    Hoseyboh
    Want more freebies, take long high loan can liao. The reason I got dis price cause my friend also booked a XV together lah...
  • 22 May 2016 - 12:59 PM
    Redfur
    So if u would have bought the xt alone, price will be how much?
  • 22 May 2016 - 01:43 PM
    TwinCharged

    Sorry, to be precise it's $120.6. Didn't read the Agreement properly.

    Hi Bro, is $120.6 before or after you trade in your car ?
  • 22 May 2016 - 02:19 PM
    thefalcon

    Wa... I booked a red FL (last colour of ex-stock) a few weeks earlier than u but paid 123k (price including change leather seats to brown colour)...Zzzz.. Now their new stocks come with all colours so fast. They are getting aggressive. MI is a silent killer try to conquer more of the suv market here.

    Btw, any freebies u got from your SE besides the free carmat and first 3 servicings? I only got these. MI not so into giving freebies but they try to give us a no frills deal.�

    I'm still waiting to collect mine this coming fri or sat.

    Good to see there will be more and more xt out on the roads.�


    Looks like the XT is gaining more attention in Spore. its off-roading capabilities will be well appreciated even in our local roads. In recent years, I feel that our road conditions have become much worse than before: more pot holes, uneven patching (after digging), road works here and there, and more speed humps. My current sylphy suspension is taking quite a hit with all these road imperfections. I'm starting to hear creaking sounds from the rear suspension after 24k km.... Not sure if any bros out there are feeling the same punishments to your rides?

    Agreed! �Singapore is actually urban off-road. Express way is road. housing estate is actually off-road with so many humps and multi story carpark is like driving up and down hill. LOL �


  • 22 May 2016 - 02:49 PM
    Jaris32

    Hi, have been considering Forester NA for awhile.

    Apart from the price quoted, what are the common items to ask or can be expected from SE?
    So far been quoted 3 free servicing 1k, 5k, 10k and floor mats.

    Hi there

    I bought the FNA from Jass Chan. She is patient and not pushy. We went through 4 models and 2 variants of forester before I signed the dotted line. PM me if you need her contact.

    Happy buying!
  • 22 May 2016 - 04:06 PM
    Icecube187

    Hi there

    I bought the FNA from Jass Chan. She is patient and not pushy. We went through 4 models and 2 variants of forester before I signed the dotted line. PM me if you need her contact.

    Happy buying!

    Jass is good.

    Want more freebies, book together w frens.

    Thats how i got 1.9k worth of freebies w 8bid NG n 30k loan.
  • 22 May 2016 - 04:21 PM
    Hoseyboh

    Hi Bro, is $120.6 before or after you trade in your car ?


    Hi Twincharge,
    No trade in. MI trade in price lousy.

    So if u would have bought the xt alone, price will be how much?


    Should be $121.
  • 22 May 2016 - 04:30 PM
    Ken1898
    What is the interest and loan package?
  • 22 May 2016 - 04:32 PM
    BenTong
    The FXT main flaw to me is that it does not come with an Outback body, trims, wheels and the rest....
  • 22 May 2016 - 05:14 PM
    TwinCharged

    Just PMed you ��

    Many thanks, well received :)
  • 22 May 2016 - 09:31 PM
    mrhan1982

    The FXT main flaw to me is that it does not come with an Outback body, trims, wheels and the rest....

  • 25 May 2016 - 07:17 AM
    Swaku
    Fungsiong, regarding the "Battery we have in our car is original from Japan - liquid type not maintenance free", does it mean that we have to top up the liquid now and then? Where to get this liquid? Eventually,can we replace this battery with those maintenance free type like from Amazon?

    Thanks.
  • 25 May 2016 - 07:24 AM
    BenTong

    On bullet no. 3 what is this alarm? Doesnt all cars come with alarm , including Forester, nowadays?

    Car alarm is necessary if you drive a Harrier and mark X.. Esp when u go massage in JB
  • 25 May 2016 - 09:13 AM
    Icecube187

    Understand in hill start assist the car applies brake like for 2 sec after brake is released to allow driver time to engage accelerator. I thought in drive mode there is a idling torque...wont that be enough to cover the time right foot switches from brake to accelerate?

    Yes, it all depends on the inclination of the slope. For gentle slope, I don't need to step on brake and the car holds its position. For steeper slopes, eg HDB carparks ramps, the hill assist will hold for about 2s before car rolls back.


  • 25 May 2016 - 11:41 AM
    wheelogist

    My new KIA sorento has a auto hold function which is very useful on elevated slopes. �Once activated, it will automatically hold the car stationary once you apply the brakes a little harder after car stops. �It release itself once you step on the accelerator. �It function like the handbrake. Very useful especially on steep slope like car park �exit in Ngee Ann city where Jam always occur. �Even on flat road, it helps to hold car in position, thus no need to step on brake pedal with gear in drive mode. This is very useful when you are caught in a traffic Jam.

    All cars should have this feature!


  • 25 May 2016 - 11:49 AM
    Slowpoke

    Fungsiong, regarding the "Battery we have in our car is original from Japan - liquid type not maintenance free", does it mean that we have to top up the liquid now and then? Where to get this liquid? Eventually,can we replace this battery with those maintenance free type like from Amazon?

    Thanks.

    battery water aka distilled water.... available for sale in most petrol stations�


  • 25 May 2016 - 12:11 PM
    Davidtch

    Car alarm is necessary if you drive a Harrier and mark X.. Esp when u go massage in JB

    Car alarm is useless as ppl tend to ignore.

    It is useful if:

    1. 2 way alarm; or

    2. Siren sound is some horny making out sound.


  • 25 May 2016 - 01:53 PM
    SJGDKK8
    What does the 2 bars previous and current mean? What are they measuring exactly?
    Can some kind bro advice?

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  • 25 May 2016 - 01:59 PM
    razor54

    What does the 2 bars previous and current mean? What are they measuring exactly?
    Can some kind bro advice?

    It should be the just completed trip's FC as compared to the last trip you did.
  • 25 May 2016 - 02:41 PM
    SJGDKK8

    It should be the just completed trip's FC as compared to the last trip you did.


    So it is like close to 10km per litre?
  • 25 May 2016 - 03:09 PM
    Cboonh

    ENGINE COMPARTMENT

    • It's not recommended to install alarm system; even MI does not provide such option (Subaru does have options fo alarm systems, can verify this by checking the Subaru Japan Parts catelogue)

    • It's difficult and time consuming to replace the spark plugs. We have four in the car and it'll take easily 1.5 hours. Fortunately this only needs to be done at 80k or 100k.(One of the trade-offs for having a boxer engine.)

    INTERIOR

    • When starting the engine, go through the cycle of push the start button once to activate audio and clock, another time for the full check and then press the brake together with the button to start the engine. He recommended that sequence to ensure all's tested before the engine is started. (hmmm... i only do this when inspecting used cars.. haha, may not be practical to do daily lah)
    • Air con - auto climate function will open up the external air inlet if the temperature is too low or if the air has been circulating for too long. Cannot be overridden, set up in Japan. (Can be overcome, assuming that you turn off the aircon before you power off the engine. After you start the car:
      1. Press the internal circulation button
      2. Turn the fan knob (center knob) to turn on the aircon.
      There you have it, the aircon will not switch to internal circulation mode during your drive...)
    • The paddle shifter can be used in D or M mode, although he doesn't see any need for that in Singapore traffic (personal opinion.. hahaa)
    • The auto-fold mirror accessory can be purchased and installed - S$ 160 with tax included. Well worth it in my view. (A very useful third party module (not from subaru).. saved me from leaving my doors open on a few occasions... One side caution, the side mirror folding motor may not be originally designed to automatically fold everytime you locked the door. So one can expect earlier than usual failure..)

    Thanks for sharing! Added some thoughts about the points raised. Hope it can help others too~ :D


  • 25 May 2016 - 03:19 PM
    WML888

    What does the 2 bars previous and current mean? What are they measuring exactly?
    Can some kind bro advice?

    Not easy to capture this shot...
    To achieve 6.5L/100km, did you try to "sayang" the turbo ... ? Or still running in ?
  • 25 May 2016 - 03:22 PM
    razor54

    So it is like close to 10km per litre?

    The 6.5L/100km on the left will work out to be around 15km/L for that particular trip.

    The 2 bars on the right is the overall average FC of that tank (last trip and the previous trip) since you last reset the trip meter.
  • 25 May 2016 - 03:27 PM
    SJGDKK8

    Not easy to capture this shot...
    To achieve 6.5L/100km, did you try to "sayang" the turbo ... ? Or still running in ?


    Actually was due to too many laser camera on expressway plus driving during lunch time from Tuas to Thomson and back... Clear traffic...

    This is definitely not a regular consumption... Usually reads more like 9 - 10 litres per 100km.

    The 6.5L/100km on the left will work out to be around 15km/L for that particular trip.

    The 2 bars on the right is the overall average FC of that tank (last trip and the previous trip) since you last reset the trip meter.


    Thanks for the explanation...
  • 25 May 2016 - 03:43 PM
    razor54

    Not easy to capture this shot...
    To achieve 6.5L/100km, did you try to "sayang" the turbo ... ? Or still running in ?

    Must standby the camera before you switch off the ignition to capture that shot...hahaha.

    If it's mostly highway for a single trip, my FXT can achieve around 7.5L/100km. Based on average 90+km/hr cruising speed.
  • 25 May 2016 - 04:02 PM
    LOOKS

    Just to share my experience of Blackvue cam.

    I have MI installedThe Blackvue cam system in�my FXT.�It is quite user friendly and you can download an app to view the recorded files on your phone.�The system stored the file in one minute block which�make it convenience to review the event. The system comes with 32GB memory which is sufficient normal recording of driving. The Blackvue will turn off when the engine is off.

    If you want to have recording when the car is parked, meaning 24 hour reconding,�then you need to install a device called Power magic by Blackvue. (MI sells it)�This is to prevent the battery draining when you park over a long period of time.

    With 32GB of storage, you can record about 12-14 hours non stop which is not alot.�The DR650GW-2CH can support up to 128GB of memory. With 128GB, you will get few days of recording before overwrite.

    So, if you are thinking of installing Blackvueand�with 24 hours recording in your Forester,�ask your SE for 128GB before signing the dotted line,


  • 25 May 2016 - 04:14 PM
    SJGDKK8

    Must standby the camera before you switch off the ignition to capture that shot...hahaha.

    If it's mostly highway for a single trip, my FXT can achieve around 7.5L/100km. Based on average 90+km/hr cruising speed.

    Exactly what I did. I standby my camera before I switch off the engine.

    Usually I am not very bothered by read outs in car, but I keep seeing this and wanted to know what exactly is telling me.

    Thanks again for enlightening.

    About right, managed to get 2 trips with these 6.5 & 6.8�l / 100 km on clear expressway all the way at 90 - 95 km / hr cruising speed.

    So my lunch route of 45 km used only about 3 litre of 98... Not bad consumption...


  • 25 May 2016 - 04:27 PM
    SJGDKK8

    Just to share my experience of Blackvue cam.

    I have MI installedThe Blackvue cam system in my FXT. It is quite user friendly and you can download an app to view the recorded files on your phone. The system stored the file in one minute block which make it convenience to review the event. The system comes with 32GB memory which is sufficient normal recording of driving. The Blackvue will turn off when the engine is off.

    If you want to have recording when the car is parked, meaning 24 hour reconding, then you need to install a device called Power magic by Blackvue. (MI sells it) This is to prevent the battery draining when you park over a long period of time.

    With 32GB of storage, you can record about 12-14 hours non stop which is not alot. The DR650GW-2CH can support up to 128GB of memory. With 128GB, you will get few days of recording before overwrite.

    So, if you are thinking of installing Blackvueand with 24 hours recording in your Forester, ask your SE for 128GB before signing the dotted line,


    I got my blackvue and power magic from MI. Downloaded blackvue C app too.
    I use an iphone. When in the car, I can use the wifi to view the playback if I need.
    But I am unable to use the blackvue cloud function on the blackvue c to view when I am at home, so I hardly turn on the power magic to let it record when parked.
    My question is how do u register new camera on blackvue Cloud.
    My iphone don't seem to be able to read the QR code.

    Thanks in advance if you can advice.
  • 25 May 2016 - 07:05 PM
    WML888

    I got my blackvue and power magic from MI. Downloaded blackvue C app too.
    I use an iphone. When in the car, I can use the wifi to view the playback if I need.
    But I am unable to use the blackvue cloud function on the blackvue c to view when I am at home, so I hardly turn on the power magic to let it record when parked.
    My question is how do u register new camera on blackvue Cloud.
    My iphone don't seem to be able to read the QR code.

    Thanks in advance if you can advice.

    To use the "cloud", you need to add a data device (from Blackvue) with "sim card with data plan", so that video files can be sent to the "cloud". Pro is that you can access video files remote. The con is that you need a data plan.
  • 25 May 2016 - 07:38 PM
    Rachdanom

    reading up quite a bit about detailing and paint protection etc. �Got a question before I collect my new FXT in early June. �Is it good idea to give it a wax job immediately to coat the clear coat?


  • 25 May 2016 - 08:19 PM
    razor54

    reading up quite a bit about detailing and paint protection etc. Got a question before I collect my new FXT in early June. Is it good idea to give it a wax job immediately to coat the clear coat?

    There are so many PPS products in the market now that I've lost count. All will claim that their coatings are the best. It's could be nano, ceramic, glass, titanium or whatever they want to call them.

    It'll come down to budget as well. Set a budget, do some research on reviews of the different companies. Waxing might appear to be cheaper as compared to ceramic coating or equivalent, but the latter coatings will last longer. You will be able to see the 'beading' and gloss results for a longer period. Not to mention easier to clean as dirt is easily washed off.

    I did the CS-II PPS for my last car and it manages to seal in the black in the paint after 8 years, as compared to my friend's black car bought during the same period. Of course fine swirl marks will appear after some time regardless of what coatings, but it does protect the paint to a certain degree as compared to none.

    My current FXT is now coated with ceramic coating with so called 9H hardness since week 1 from another detailer. But I'm quite disappointed with the coating after 2 months. Saw some fine swirl marks and the beading effect is not so pronounced anymore. It's not the top of the range though, at $450, but I expected it to last a little longer. Most likely will do some other coating nearer to CNY next year. Called up the detailer and he said I washed it the wrong way! I followed their washing instructions and it seems they are trying to shun away from touching it up. Can PM me if you want to know which detailer. I will not disclose it openly online.
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