mycarforum: Liverpool 2014/15 Part 2 : Qtr Century On.... part 27

Actually even their defender is tall.

Actually I think we already know that liverpool this season with or without Suarez is going to have scoring problem as last season show that liverpool with Suarez cannot break down a bus. Hence not able to score is nothing new.. And that is the reason why most of us is complaining that we need to strengthens our leaky defense. Now the defense seems to be okay liao.. Everyone forget about our initial conclusion And get frustrated???

No mah we know if we plug the defense at the beginning of the year we will still be around top 4. And if we take into consideration that the 3 "pretender" and focus on rival that can threaten for 4th place namely Man U asernal and Spurs. We are only 3~4 points away (maybe 7 if Man U win tonight). Which is actually not bad Consider how badly we are before Lucas came back.

Actually I think we already know that liverpool this season with or without Suarez is going to have scoring problem as last season show that liverpool with Suarez cannot break down a bus. Hence not able to score is nothing new.. And that is the reason why most of us is complaining that we need to strengthens our leaky defense. Now the defense seems to be okay liao.. Everyone forget about our initial conclusion And get frustrated???

No mah we know if we plug the defense at the beginning of the year we will still be around top 4. And if we take into consideration that the 3 "pretender" and focus on rival that can threaten for 4th place namely Man U asernal and Spurs. We are only 3~4 points away (maybe 7 if Man U win tonight). Which is actually not bad Consider how badly we are before Lucas came back.

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defence starts from our forward line...�

midfield is key to slowing down �or repel most attacks...

this season... defenders are exposed... especially the goalie

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defence starts from our forward line...�
midfield is key to slowing down �or repel most attacks...
this season... defenders are exposed... especially the goalie

Defend is a whole unit as a team so any area is weak the defense is weak.

I still feel Liverpool is lacking in midfield, I don't understand why BR won't play two strikers when their goal rate is so low.

I still feel Liverpool is lacking in midfield, I don't understand why BR won't play two strikers when their goal rate is so low.

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Liverpool does not have the most creative midfielder right now in the EPL. BR can play 3 strikers up front and I believe the team will still have problem scoring goals.

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Suarez is a player who can construct something out of nothing. All you need to do is to get the midfielders to play the ball to him and Suarez will finish the rest. Sturridge is not quite the kind of player like Suarez. He needs to link up with midfielder to be in a good position to score. Sturridge and Sterling/Henderson does this quite well. The trio understand each other and knows where to find one another. But Sturridge even in the absence of poor service from midfield, because he is fast, he can outrun defenders and find himself in a good scoring position.

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Balotelli and Borini are the old fashion strikers. Where they will be waiting in the box for the perfect ball. Both of their link up play and understanding with midfielders are poor. Hence, the lack of goals. Borini tend to mis-read the passes or is simply not in sync with the way the midfielders are trying to play him.

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Lambert is playing well as he is able to forge some understanding with the midfield particularly from Lallana. And Lallana is the closest player Liverpool has that resembles Alonso.

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If you look at the top teams, all of them have distinct playmaker in the midfield. City have Toure, Chelsea have F�bregas and�Hazard, Arsenal have Ozil, Ramsey.�

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Liverpool? Sterling? Too young. Gerrard? Too old. Henderson? I still think he is more of the Dirt Kyut style rather than a creative midfielder.

Wishing for a Pool win tonight !!

Any scoreline will do, even AOS, as long as Pool win to progress...

Hope the spirit of 2004 vs Olympiakos will resurface tonight.

Depends on the bookies lol

win and we may be able to kickstart our season, at least jan window we can still tell players we are in ucl

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no win => season almost over, fight for last UCL spot at most. Cups are of no value right now

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2005 when chips are down, Stevie G is the one man show

2014, who is able to step up?

lets hope John Lennon is watching over the team....

Who else watching? Rodgers not being too adventorous with the starting lineup. Dunno if he trying not to lose or don mind losing.

N gerrard's first set pc is such a disappointment.

frei scores...end of CL...

Wtf. Play like this, wtever spirit their conjure up also wont win. Nvr create anything to deserve a goal. I tink i shall go to sleep.

sub allen for coutin, switch henderson back to mid. Come on!!

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Pool totally lack confidence
Attackers reluctant to shoot
Defence as usual lost possession easily or make unnecessary mistakes
Br failed to understand or utilised the Players he bought
Set pieces whether in def or attack totally jia lat
In short br is clueless after suarez left and he needs to go

Pool down ten man
Game over

yesss!!!! captain!!!!

Unker scored
Game on again

We gave a real go at it towards the end. No complaint especially after we were down to 10.

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dust ourself off and here we go again!

Edited by Bacteria83, 10 December 2014 - 05:40 AM.

After so many years, we managed to claw back into UCL ... And now, we are out after the 1st round.. Sad..

Looking at the current state, it may take years again for us to step into UCL ...

LS brought us in, BR brings us out..
It's time FSG takes a serious view of this. We can't just have an expanded stadium in future, without a good manager and players to play us into UCL...

We miss UCL ... again

That's it. A quick end to our return to the UCL.

It will now be the Europa League. With premier league matches on Sunday/Monday......

Personally, I have reservations about the Europa League, more so now in view of our erratic league form.......

That's it. A quick end to our return to the UCL.

It will now be the Europa League. With premier league matches on Sunday/Monday......

Personally, I have reservations about the Europa League, more so now in view of our erratic league form.......

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think will be knocked out at first hurdle

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seriously, the lack of any spirit only points to a dresing room unrest. This season has to be one of the most lacklustre one in terms of spirit, attitude and heart in the past years .... Loss of LS is NOT the cause, must be something else. Can only point to many players feeling disgruntled with BR. so for this fact (if true) he has to go.�

Again..rodgers team selection must b questioned. In a must win game, he decides to play enrique, who is clearly not in form at all. N chose 3 ctr mids with no creativity. N at halftime, put in markovic, who has been struggling n expect him to somehow change the team. Put in sterling, who already has a lot to shoulder, as a striker. these is points to a manager totally out of ideas.

Again..rodgers team selection must b questioned. In a must win game, he decides to play enrique, who is clearly not in form at all. N chose 3 ctr mids with no creativity. N at halftime, put in markovic, who has been struggling n expect him to somehow change the team. Put in sterling, who already has a lot to shoulder, as a striker. these is points to a manager totally out of ideas.

Din watch but agree that starting Enrique is a strange decision. Think BR is trying to rest Moreno for next league game.

Is Can injured? Imo putting the trio of Lucas, Allen n Henderson is kinda defensive minded for a must win game at Anfield. Lucas and Henderson will be gd enough to hold the midfield and 3 attacking midfielders shld be playing eg SG, RS and either Coutinho or Lallana.

BR needs to be "rested" for the next game or the next next next game !

I really don't know what more can I say about the manager or the team he set up. The only thing I can sum up is, whatever has been said about the manager and the players, when the match starts we want them to do well and that means a liverpool win, despite our criticism.

Didn't watch the match but looking at various report, the manager seem to know his fate is sealed, from the way he quickly left the pitch after the final whistle.

Wake up and watch the second half ... [knife]

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Pool might as well buy the entire�FC Basle Team to play in BPL. Their (FC Basle) running and attacking flow so much superior over�Pool�dribbling into the goal box and many times caught Pool defenders off-guard.��

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Most important was that FC Basle strikers & midfielders shoots from outside the penalty box and 75% are on targets... [sweatdrop]

Going by the numerous rumours, I think the days is numbered for BR.

EPL buay tahan liao still dreaming�to play CL and progress? Better change the whole team this Jan transfer window.

Now, it is apparent that BR is silly and stupid to take a dig on Spurs and warn Louis van Gaal to expect a tough first season in charge at Manchester United.

Din watch but agree that starting Enrique is a strange decision. Think BR is trying to rest Moreno for next league game.

Is Can injured? Imo putting the trio of Lucas, Allen n Henderson is kinda defensive minded for a must win game at Anfield. Lucas and Henderson will be gd enough to hold the midfield and 3 attacking midfielders shld be playing eg SG, RS and either Coutinho or Lallana.

that's y in my first post during the game, after seeing the lineup it's either he don wanna lose (defensive) or don mind losing (resting key players). or he simply don think the team can cope with the xtra games (or he is the one who cant cope).

Now, it is apparent that BR is silly and stupid to take a dig on Spurs and warn Louis van Gaal to expect a tough first season in charge at Manchester United.

his dig on spurs was stupid. many pundits r now digging that quote up n saying it has bit him in the arse. warning LVG looked justifiable in the beginning, but LVG is quick to learn n made changes. whereas rodgers, even with his BPL experience, is too stubborn or stupid to make changes quickly.

Wake up and watch the second half ...

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Pool might as well buy the entire�FC Basle Team to play in BPL. Their (FC Basle) running and attacking flow so much superior over�Pool�dribbling into the goal box and many times caught Pool defenders off-guard.��

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Most important was that FC Basle strikers & midfielders shoots from outside the penalty box and 75% are on targets...

this is another obvious problem with pool. no one seem to wanna take a shot fm outside the box. the die-die want to get into the box which is almost impossible. with the lack of creativity n opponent defending in numbers, they surely must once a while try to take a shot. but....the other prob is no one in the team is good at shooting.

much as i hope BR can come good�

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i think he is losing control over the team, and the axe will fall very soon

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such a pity, considering he was the LMA manager of the year last season�

BR deserves all the stick he is getting from media, from fans

he yak too much for a rookie who has won nothing

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i did not watch last night match, but i do not expect anything different from what i have seen this season....

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The last time they played this bad, Woy was out and Suarez bought in Jan Window

Now, it is apparent that BR is silly and stupid to take a dig on Spurs and warn Louis van Gaal to expect a tough first season in charge at Manchester United.

now we know.... it wasn't his tactical acumen that brought us to 2nd last season.. it was someone's brilliance

a must win game, we go into it without Coutihno and Lallana

Did Sterling start? Terrible team selection.

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Cut it short => BR OUT!

EPL buay tahan liao still dreaming�to play CL and progress? Better change the whole team this Jan transfer window.

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No need to change the whole team lah, waste money niah

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Change one person ---> BR !

Save a few million, and yet maybe can climb to 4th placing, and recoup back the UCL spot and $ for next season�:))

BR's mistake is not to buy a proven striker

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even if it meant spending 50 million.

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Our team is based on confidence,

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when we score, we are confident and play well.

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When we don't score, we lose all confidence

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and play badly.

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hope for the best.. dint get it..

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reading the comments from bros here just confirm the fact BR caught out again..

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as much as i support the club.. feel we need a more experienced manager la..

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get rafa back!! haha

Luis Suarez is doing badly at Barcelona scoring only one goal.

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I think we should offer Barcelona 35 million and buy him back.

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BR's mistake is not to buy a proven striker

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even if it meant spending 50 million.

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Our team is based on confidence,

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when we score, we are confident and play well.

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When we don't score, we lose all confidence

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and play badly.

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fully agree

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i think it is the goals from a good striker

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l dun think it is 100% due to LS last season. there were games he didnt play or games where he was off form

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and we still played well

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Hope BR can bring in a top goal scorer in Jan and if he can turn the fortunes, maybe still can stay till end of the season or be around for next season...�

Luis Suarez is doing badly at Barcelona scoring only one goal.
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I think we should offer Barcelona 35 million and buy him back.
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Don't say liverpool petty, we throw in balotelli + 35 million offered for good will too.

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fully agree
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i think it is the goals from a good striker
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l dun think it is 100% due to LS last season. there were games he didnt play or games where he was off form
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and we still played well
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Hope BR can bring in a top goal scorer in Jan and if he can turn the fortunes, maybe still can stay till end of the season or be around for next season...�

If FSG did not provide funds for Jan transfer that means confirm the manager gone case liao.

I suspect he will be gone by Jan..... and SG become player/manager... will it happens?

BR's mistake is not to buy a proven striker

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even if it meant spending 50 million.

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Our team is based on confidence,

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when we score, we are confident and play well.

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When we don't score, we lose all confidence

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and play badly.

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i think its more than that...

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Balotelli is a proven striker, albeit a troublesome one. when announced we signed him, i tot wow, good deal

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problem i feel is BR do not have a fluid game plan to cater to the strengths of the players he have. u cannot play sg as last mf if your strikers are struggling to score goals. the gap fm mf to striker is like the pacific ocean.

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Worse still, the defence concede like no tomorrow. last season back 4 was not good enuf, but add on a 20m CB, instead of getting better, we leak more.

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i will not give him another 50M to waste. Kenny paid with his job when Carroll, downing and adams fail to live up to expectation. so why should BR have a longer tenure?

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fully agree
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i think it is the goals from a good striker
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l dun think it is 100% due to LS last season. there were games he didnt play or games where he was off form
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and we still played well
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Hope BR can bring in a top goal scorer in Jan and if he can turn the fortunes, maybe still can stay till end of the season or be around for next season...�

Not sayin that goals is not important the whole collapse doesn't just start because of lack of goal. Lack of defense is a high issue. If we had drew against Basel in the away legs. We will only require a draw to go through. Similarly if we had drew a few match in BPL instead of loss we will still be in top6

I suspect he will be gone by Jan..... and SG become player/manager... will it happens?

We know it's not a good idea to have someone who think he is able to play regular football for his age as manager

I suspect he will be gone by Jan..... and SG become player/manager... will it happens?

i dread to see this happen...

SG isn't so bright when it comes to tactics�

i dread to see this happen...
SG isn't so bright when it comes to tactics�

Agree.

I think FSG, as an investor, must be hopping mad for the failure to move into 2nd round.

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Think about all the possible ticket and broadcasting� money if they have move into the knock-out rounds.

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Considering the money FSG had invested, I don't think BR will last long.

I think FSG, as an investor, must be hopping mad for the failure to move into 2nd round.

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Think about all the possible ticket and broadcasting� money if they have move into the knock-out rounds.

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Considering the money FSG had invested, I don't think BR will last long.

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I really hope FSG is MAD now !!!

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Summon BR and give him the letter !!

i dread to see this happen...
SG isn't so bright when it comes to tactics�

I think Carragher might be able to do it. He seems like manager in the making who dares to "gan" players...

I thought he does so cos more or less it is his job.... A pundit gives analysis and critics base on their past experience as a player. Might not equate to good manager. It everything good, he gonna lose his job.

I think Carragher might be able to do it. He seems like manager in the making who dares to "gan" players...

Carra will be a Rafa i suspect... maybe Houllier... till we find that elusive magician again

Carra will be a Rafa i suspect... maybe Houllier... till we find that elusive magician again

Which magician are u talking about. We have no magician for last 20 odds year.

Carra will be like GH. Only defend and counter and no real tactics. He isn't bright enough to be Rafa type of tactician.

i think its more than that...

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Balotelli is a proven striker, albeit a troublesome one. when announced we signed him, i tot wow, good deal

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problem i feel is BR do not have a fluid game plan to cater to the strengths of the players he have. u cannot play sg as last mf if your strikers are struggling to score goals. the gap fm mf to striker is like the pacific ocean.

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Worse still, the defence concede like no tomorrow. last season back 4 was not good enuf, but add on a 20m CB, instead of getting better, we leak more.

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i will not give him another 50M to waste. Kenny paid with his job when Carroll, downing and adams fail to live up to expectation. so why should BR have a longer tenure?

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Downing now doing really well as an attacking midfielder and pushing

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West Ham to third. BR never saw how good he is in this position and

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even had Victor Moses playing as attacking mid but he wasn't any good.

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Some of the best football played was under King Kenny but the results

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just didn't go his way.

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Which magician are u talking about. We have no magician for last 20 odds year.

Carra will be like GH. Only defend and counter and no real tactics. He isn't bright enough to be Rafa type of tactician.

fowler, macmanaman, even owen, torres, suarez and of course Steven Gerrard :)

players who win games on their own... players who make us smile even though we didn't win the big one

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i think Carra can offer more than pure defence... at least he wouldn't play henderson on the left wing!

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an article on this is anfield: this is one of the first time TIA go against Rodgers

http://www.thisisanf...ampions-league/

fowler, macmanaman, even owen, torres, suarez and of course Steven Gerrard :)

players who win games on their own... players who make us smile even though we didn't win the big one

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i think Carra can offer more than pure defence... at least he wouldn't play henderson on the left wing!

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an article on this is anfield: this is one of the first time TIA go against Rodgers

http://www.thisisanf...ampions-league/

chey I though you mean manager.... lol

i dread to see this happen...

SG isn't so bright when it comes to tactics�

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FSG will be really stupid to do that. no coaching exp. And from last year, not much leadership as well.

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I appreciate and adore SG for what he WAS but NOW is the time for him to bow down with dignity.�

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FSG will be really stupid to do that. no coaching exp. And from last year, not much leadership as well.

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I appreciate and adore SG for what he WAS but NOW is the time for him to bow down with dignity.�

but at the moment, there's no one wif a better set piece than him.... his dead balls are still far beta than anyone in the squad now.... maybe an impact sub like how BR is using him now? but a CDM and a STRIKER is a must for the coming window.�

Aiya, you all give Gerrard a break la.

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He is old. But he is definitely not crippled. Any manager will favour experience over tireless legs. The influence an experience player has on the team is invaluable. It prevents the team from total collapsing during the game. One classic example is Arsenal. How many times have Arsenal collapse totally when they were shocked with early goals.

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The only problem is that BR needs to acknowledge that Gerrard can't play the full 90mins like a 20 year old teen. At his age, probably 2 - 60mins of game in a week will extract the best from him.�

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For some reason, BR has at his disposal players who are more than willing to go out there and prove a point and yet, he is not using them. Case in point, Borini. Lambert is obviously tired after starting so many games, why not let Borini have a go? Lallana has put in some excellent performance after starting consecutively for a few games only to be dropped in his crucial CL match.�

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It is ok to play around with tactics but for crucial game, it is safer to go back to basic. Let performing player continue with the momentum and rest those that are below average and let others have a go.�

The fault is all down to just one person... BR !

Tactics failed, motivation failed, used of players failed, ... everything failed...

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Maybe for the sake of Pool, he should just resign ...

but at the moment, there's no one wif a better set piece than him.... his dead balls are still far beta than anyone in the squad now.... maybe an impact sub like how BR is using him now? but a CDM and a STRIKER is a must for the coming window.�

You know we shouldn't really rely on dead ball to score goal.. And while he is still the better dead ball specialist it's only marginally better right now. He had not been very consistence

Aiya, you all give Gerrard a break la.
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He is old. But he is definitely not crippled. Any manager will favour experience over tireless legs. The influence an experience player has on the team is invaluable. It prevents the team from total collapsing during the game. One classic example is Arsenal. How many times have Arsenal collapse totally when they were shocked with early goals.
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The only problem is that BR needs to acknowledge that Gerrard can't play the full 90mins like a 20 year old teen. At his age, probably 2 - 60mins of game in a week will extract the best from him.�
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For some reason, BR has at his disposal players who are more than willing to go out there and prove a point and yet, he is not using them. Case in point, Borini. Lambert is obviously tired after starting so many games, why not let Borini have a go? Lallana has put in some excellent performance after starting consecutively for a few games only to be dropped in his crucial CL match.�
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It is ok to play around with tactics but for crucial game, it is safer to go back to basic. Let performing player continue with the momentum and rest those that are below average and let others have a go.�

There is nothing wrong with valuing experience but we can see in from this season, his experience doesn't seems to do muchz

Judge BR at the end of the season.

We'll know eventually if he deserves to be sacked.

We might be mid table or 4th place still right?�

Sturridge is coming back soon.�

By the way, we are unbeaten in 4 games.�

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Seriously guys, we are all still one team and BR is in this team.�

I am pissed with him too.

You will never walk alone.

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but at the moment, there's no one wif a better set piece than him.... his dead balls are still far beta than anyone in the squad now.... maybe an impact sub like how BR is using him now? but a CDM and a STRIKER is a must for the coming window.�

hv watched any games lately?? his set pcs hv been TERRIBLE! many times does not even clear the first defender. for some reason he had been trying the low n fast set pc, which is easily cleared by the first defender. n like J22 said...pool cant every game rely on set pcs to score goals.�

Aiya, you all give Gerrard a break la.

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He is old. But he is definitely not crippled. Any manager will favour experience over tireless legs. The influence an experience player has on the team is invaluable. It prevents the team from total collapsing during the game. One classic example is Arsenal. How many times have Arsenal collapse totally when they were shocked with early goals.

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The only problem is that BR needs to acknowledge that Gerrard can't play the full 90mins like a 20 year old teen. At his age, probably 2 - 60mins of game in a week will extract the best from him.�

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For some reason, BR has at his disposal players who are more than willing to go out there and prove a point and yet, he is not using them. Case in point, Borini. Lambert is obviously tired after starting so many games, why not let Borini have a go? Lallana has put in some excellent performance after starting consecutively for a few games only to be dropped in his crucial CL match.�

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It is ok to play around with tactics but for crucial game, it is safer to go back to basic. Let performing player continue with the momentum and rest those that are below average and let others have a go.�

we cant b the ones to give gerrard a break. he must give himself the break. should hv asked rodgers to not play him too often since his body cant take it. this of course is also rodgers' fault.

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borini is a very strange case. not sure wat he has done for rodgers to not let him hv a chance at all. this his refusal for a transfer pissed the club off? even so, since he said he wants to prove himself at the club, shouldnt rodgers give him some chance? lallana also. both these guys were rodgers main signings...but yet both were pushed aside. this rodgers is one confused man.

fowler, macmanaman, even owen, torres, suarez and of course Steven Gerrard :)

players who win games on their own... players who make us smile even though we didn't win the big one

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i think Carra can offer more than pure defence... at least he wouldn't play henderson on the left wing!

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an article on this is anfield: this is one of the first time TIA go against Rodgers

http://www.thisisanf...ampions-league/

see...even the article mentioned abt borini being exiled n lallana an unused sub. how can others see the problem but not the manager??�

Judge BR at the end of the season.

We'll know eventually if he deserves to be sacked.

We might be mid table or 4th place still right?�

Sturridge is coming back soon.�

By the way, we are unbeaten in 4 games.�

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Seriously guys, we are all still one team and BR is in this team.�

I am pissed with him too.

You will never walk alone.

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Unbeaten game might be coming to an end soon, this weekend facing Manchester United Old Trafford.

Edited by Evilernie, 11 December 2014 - 10:08 AM.

Judge BR at the end of the season.

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Afraid that by then, we are totally out of our control to regain that last UCL position.

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Currently, we are only 6 points off the 4th spot, not too far to catch. However, we are also just 8th points off the last relegation spot and watching how we struggle against team like Sunderland, Crystal Palace etc, I don't think we are safe either.

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BR has totally lost the plot and I believed even the dressing room. So, I can't imagine where we will be in by end of the season with him in-charge. Even if DS come back, looking at how the team perform lately, I doubt it will lift liverpool immediately.

hv watched any games lately?? his set pcs hv been TERRIBLE! many times does not even clear the first defender. for some reason he had been trying the low n fast set pc, which is easily cleared by the first defender. n like J22 said...pool cant every game rely on set pcs to score goals.�

we cant b the ones to give gerrard a break. he must give himself the break. should hv asked rodgers to not play him too often since his body cant take it. this of course is also rodgers' fault.
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borini is a very strange case. not sure wat he has done for rodgers to not let him hv a chance at all. this his refusal for a transfer pissed the club off? even so, since he said he wants to prove himself at the club, shouldnt rodgers give him some chance? lallana also. both these guys were rodgers main signings...but yet both were pushed aside. this rodgers is one confused man.

see...even the article mentioned abt borini being exiled n lallana an unused sub. how can others see the problem but not the manager??�

Talking about confuse man. He have the habit of praising a player to be league best only to bench him and then say he is the worse player of the year 1 week later.

Talking about confuse man. He have the habit of praising a player to be league best only to bench him and then say he is the worse player of the year 1 week later.

yup...he has done that repeatedly. how confused can a manager be. imagine spending so much money buying ur so-called star player....only to bench him game after game. doesnt that look bad on him n his ability to spot talents?�

i think its more than that...

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Balotelli is a proven striker, albeit a troublesome one. when announced we signed him, i tot wow, good deal

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problem i feel is BR do not have a fluid game plan to cater to the strengths of the players he have. u cannot play sg as last mf if your strikers are struggling to score goals. the gap fm mf to striker is like the pacific ocean.

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Worse still, the defence concede like no tomorrow. last season back 4 was not good enuf, but add on a 20m CB, instead of getting better, we leak more.

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i will not give him another 50M to waste. Kenny paid with his job when Carroll, downing and adams fail to live up to expectation. so why should BR have a longer tenure?

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You are right.

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If we want to get goals from Balotelli and Carroll for that matter

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then we need to supply a lot of accurate crossing into the box.

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Our ball to feet short pass game does not do that.

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If we are getting another manager,

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I hope its Guus Hiddink.

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His achievements include winning the European treble (Eredivisie, Dutch Cup and European Cup) with PSV Eindhoven; taking both the Netherlands and South Korea to a historic fourth place finish in the 1998 FIFA World Cup and 2002 FIFA World Cup respectively; leading Australia to their best ever finish at a World Cup at the 2006 FIFA World Cup; leading Russia to the semi-finals of Euro 2008, Russia's best performance since the breakup of the Soviet Union; and leading Chelsea to an FA Cup win against Everton in 2009. Hiddink has also previously managed Fenerbah�e, Valencia and Real Madrid.

Edited by Jamesc, 11 December 2014 - 11:22 AM.

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Unbeaten game might be coming to an end soon, this weekend facing Manchester United Old Trafford.

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i might just break my record of never betting against my team this week!!!

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bloody hell.. [lipsrsealed] [hur] [bigcry]

If we are getting another manager,

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I hope its Guus Hiddink.

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His achievements include winning the European treble (Eredivisie, Dutch Cup and European Cup) with PSV Eindhoven; taking both the Netherlands and South Korea to a historic fourth place finish in the 1998 FIFA World Cup and 2002 FIFA World Cup respectively; leading Australia to their best ever finish at a World Cup at the 2006 FIFA World Cup; leading Russia to the semi-finals of Euro 2008, Russia's best performance since the breakup of the Soviet Union; and leading Chelsea to an FA Cup win against Everton in 2009. Hiddink has also previously managed Fenerbah�e, Valencia and Real Madrid.

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Of course Guus would be the best choice.

I'm concerned later we sack BR then get this joker.�

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http://www.liverpool...r-rumours.html?

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Unbeaten game might be coming to an end soon, this weekend facing Manchester United Old Trafford.

In my heart, I hope our Pool can win MU...
But in my head, I just hope we don't get thrash by them...

BR ah BR, can you pls don't be so obstinate, and play players to their strength...
Pls listen to us...

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Of course Guus would be the best choice.

I'm concerned later we sack BR then get this joker.�

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http://www.liverpool...r-rumours.html?

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Haha not this joker.

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He has never succeeded in a club in England.

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We would never choose him.

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In my heart, I hope our Pool can win MU...
But in my head, I just hope we don't get thrash by them...

BR ah BR, can you pls don't be so obstinate, and play players to their strength...
Pls listen to us...

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this is key to his failure this year.

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Its a good stun to bring back lucas to stablise the defence. but we can see that he is still trying very hard to accommodate SG into his system.

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this is key to his failure this year.

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Its a good stun to bring back lucas to stablise the defence. but we can see that he is still trying very hard to accommodate SG into his system.

SG in AM role, i have less concern... can he become the litmanen?

SG in DM => we will get thrash

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Borini is the odd one: sign the guy for 12M, insist on playing him when he cannot score, the loan him to sunderland, perform reasonably well, came back and is being consigned to scrapheap by the manager who sign him. not saying he is the solution, but he would have been an option instead of having your CB trying to play CF

SG in AM role, i have less concern... can he become the litmanen?

SG in DM => we will get thrash

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Borini is the odd one: sign the guy for 12M, insist on playing him when he cannot score, the loan him to sunderland, perform reasonably well, came back and is being consigned to scrapheap by the manager who sign him. not saying he is the solution, but he would have been an option instead of having your CB trying to play CF

it is a big concern when you have to play Henderson on the wing which everyone know his stats will likely be near zero if you are playing Fifa or PES if you play him outside of CM role.

Pool might as well buy the entire�FC Basle Team to play in BPL. Their (FC Basle) running and attacking flow so much superior over�Pool�dribbling into the goal box and many times caught Pool defenders off-guard.��

Give him manage the whole Barcelona squard also same result one... imo not the players fault that we are where we are... hope he dun waste anymore $$ in Jan.. leave some for the next manager...

Bring back RB!

Edited by Dream, 11 December 2014 - 07:19 PM.

it is a big concern when you have to play Henderson on the wing which everyone know his stats will likely be near zero if you are playing Fifa or PES if you play him outside of CM role.

henderson is nvr a winger, neither a wide midfielder. he needs to play as box to box...

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but recently, sterling and henderson looks so jaded, whatever coutihno tried came off last season, this season everything did not happened.

Gonna face a in form manure soon.

Think gg liao

henderson is nvr a winger, neither a wide midfielder. he needs to play as box to box...
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but recently, sterling and henderson looks so jaded, whatever coutihno tried came off last season, this season everything did not happened.

Henderson had been playing at the wing for many moons liao...
Coutinho passing had always been terrible even last season with success rate of less then 50% for thru pass. Sterling is now heavily hk guard because they only need to guard him with Daniel out. The only speedy player is him. The rest of the striker are fox In the box and we know liverpool don't like to cross or maybe the manager don't like to cross

Henderson had been playing at the wing for many moons liao...
Coutinho passing had always been terrible even last season with success rate of less then 50% for thru pass. Sterling is now heavily hk guard because they only need to guard him with Daniel out. The only speedy player is him. The rest of the striker are fox In the box and we know liverpool don't like to cross or maybe the manager don't like to cross

I think it's unfair to compare Coutinho pass success rate to say Skrtel. Coutinho is always looking to make those precise thru passes to attackers, so success rate sure tends to be lower compared to those that makes meaningless sideway or backward passes.

Henderson had been playing at the wing for many moons liao...
Coutinho passing had always been terrible even last season with success rate of less then 50% for thru pass. Sterling is now heavily hk guard because they only need to guard him with Daniel out. The only speedy player is him. The rest of the striker are fox In the box and we know liverpool don't like to cross or maybe the manager don't like to cross

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i stand corrected...� i think more like box in the box .. no threat [lipsrsealed]

We are unseeded for Europa League.. -_-

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I think it's unfair to compare Coutinho pass success rate to say Skrtel. Coutinho is always looking to make those precise thru passes to attackers, so success rate sure tends to be lower compared to those that makes meaningless sideway or backward passes.

I didn't compare his to skrtel. How ever less then 50% success rate of thru pass is shocking as it show a player risk taking appetite.. It's mean he is a gigantic risk taker that is willing to make pass that is less then 50% chance of getting through. It is okay if we are leading but is a big issue if we are chasing game.

Do note that I am talking only about his thru pass success rate alone

Edited by Joseph22, 12 December 2014 - 01:34 PM.

We are unseeded for Europa League..
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I remember reading that team drop from champion league are not seeded now

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i stand corrected...� i think more like box in the box .. no threat

I though Mario did a good job inside but not enough ball into the box for him to score.

I didn't compare his to skrtel. How ever less then 50% success rate of thru pass is shocking as it show a player risk taking appetite.. It's mean he is a gigantic risk taker that is willing to make pass that is less then 50% chance of getting through. It is okay if we are leading but is a big issue if we are chasing game.

Do note that I am talking only about his thru pass success rate alone

I get what u mean. The success of a pass depends on both the initiator and the receiver, the receiver must also be in the same frequency as the initiator for a pass to be successful.

I think it's unfair to compare Coutinho pass success rate to say Skrtel. Coutinho is always looking to make those precise thru passes to attackers, so success rate sure tends to be lower compared to those that makes meaningless sideway or backward passes.

yup...i agree on this. i rather players try to make those passes rather than pass here pass there with no direction. many many times when i think they should try to make a thru pass, but yet they chose to make a safer side pass. really useless especially when they try to counter attack. have the fastest player in the world also no use if they don make that pass to make use of the speed.

I get what u mean. The success of a pass depends on both the initiator and the receiver, the receiver must also be in the same frequency as the initiator for a pass to be successful.

Problem... His miss are not receiver cannot catch is Kenna intercepted.

Don't get me wrong I am not saying he is not good. What I mean is he didn't become lousy overnight.. He is the same last season and this season. Just that lossing so much emplified this problem.

Edited by Joseph22, 12 December 2014 - 02:16 PM.

Problem... His miss are not receiver cannot catch is Kenna intercepted.

Don't get me wrong I am not saying he is not good. What I mean is he didn't become lousy overnight.. He is the same last season and this season. Just that lossing so much emplified this problem.

Again, if the receiver does not make good runs, it makes the passer's job more difficult, which leads to passes getting intercepted more. I recall he made quite a lot of deadly thru passes last season when we had SAS who were making crazy runs. That is why i can't wait for Sturridge at least to start playing, maybe we can see better link up plays.

Edited by Extinguisher, 12 December 2014 - 02:29 PM.

Actually the front as we know it, lacked of pace without Sturridge and Suarez.

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Only Sterling has pace but he needs at least a partner to create havoc.

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So instead of Lambert, why don't try Borini up front. Not that he is pacey, but he is at least faster that Lambert.

If BR goes the new manager will have a free hand

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to reshape the team and replace aging players.

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Liverpool success was built on removing old stars

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even the captain like Phil Neal when he was passed it.

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Edited by Jamesc, 12 December 2014 - 03:06 PM.

Again, if the receiver does not make good runs, it makes the passer's job more difficult, which leads to passes getting intercepted more. I recall he made quite a lot of deadly thru passes last season when we had SAS who were making crazy runs. That is why i can't wait for Sturridge at least to start playing, maybe we can see better link up plays.

And he have equal number of balls being intercepted last season as this season.

If u are a smart passer, u shall also see where the opponent are. If it's not time to pass then don't force it.

Could we get him back? foc now leh...at least he still have pace though confidence and form has dipped...but could be a good backup and faster than lambert...mouth watering with him, balo and sturridge up front... [sly]

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I remember he has a lfc tattoo somewhere on his body...so his heart should still be with us...

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Fernando Torres set to be offered up for FREE after Milan move to cancel Chelsea loan deal

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Fernando Torres is to be offered for free around Premier League clubs this January - only four years after costing a British record �50m.

Milan are seeking to cancel�the Spaniard�s�two-year loan deal agreed with Chelsea in August.

But Jose Mourinho�does not need another striker�after signing Diego Costa, Didier Drogba and Loic Remy in the summer.

And Torres� former club Atletico Madrid have turned down the chance to take him back on loan in a swap deal which would have sent Italy winger Alessio Cerci to the San Siro.

So the ex-Liverpool forward, now 30, is facing the embarrassment of looking for another loan club to continue an injury-blighted career which has struggled ever since his staggering move to Chelsea in January 2011 on a day of deadline deals which saw the arrival of Andy Carroll and Luis Suarez at Anfield.

Torres was adored at Liverpool and he scored the winning goal for Spain in a man-of-the-match performance in the Euro 2008 final - and appeared as a sub in the 2010 World Cup final.

Edited by Berncsp76, 12 December 2014 - 06:31 PM.

Does anyone know how torres really feels about Liverpool after his departure? Does he hate or love Liverpool?

Does anyone know how torres really feels about Liverpool after his departure? Does he hate or love Liverpool?

I don't think he hate Liverpool. Very sure he still regret leaving Liverpool. But that's his choice. From what I saw from his body language when he played against Liverpool in that Gerrard slipped match last season, he chose to pass the ball to William to score instead of shooting himself. Either he doesn't want to score against Liverpool or he doesn't have the confident to score. Whatever it is, I am very sure he will feel much better and feel right at home if he ever rejoin Liverpool. In fact I already predict he will want to play for Liverpool legends when he retires. Players like Alonso, Garcia etc too. Every time I see ex players like Michael Thomas, Patrick Berger, dudek, why are they not playing for other legends team? Especially Michael Thomas who have close association with arsenal too. I come to the conclusion that Liverpool is a very special club and these players just simply love Liverpool.
Just to add, I don't mind having Torres back, free transfer and mid range salary in the squad.

Could we get him back? foc now leh...at least he still have pace though confidence and form has dipped...but could be a good backup and faster than lambert...mouth watering with him, balo and sturridge up front...

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I remember he has a lfc tattoo somewhere on his body...so his heart should still be with us...

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Fernando Torres set to be offered up for FREE after Milan move to cancel Chelsea loan deal

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Fernando Torres is to be offered for free around Premier League clubs this January - only four years after costing a British record �50m.

Milan are seeking to cancel�the Spaniard�s�two-year loan deal agreed with Chelsea in August.

But Jose Mourinho�does not need another striker�after signing Diego Costa, Didier Drogba and Loic Remy in the summer.

And Torres� former club Atletico Madrid have turned down the chance to take him back on loan in a swap deal which would have sent Italy winger Alessio Cerci to the San Siro.

So the ex-Liverpool forward, now 30, is facing the embarrassment of looking for another loan club to continue an injury-blighted career which has struggled ever since his staggering move to Chelsea in January 2011 on a day of deadline deals which saw the arrival of Andy Carroll and Luis Suarez at Anfield.

Torres was adored at Liverpool and he scored the winning goal for Spain in a man-of-the-match performance in the Euro 2008 final - and appeared as a sub in the 2010 World Cup final.

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I welcome Torres with open hands... as long as he can still score goals...

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But, first and foremost, we must resolve the managerial post...

Hope FSG can axe BR and provide funds for a goal scorer and also a defender...

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No point buying players when BR is clueless in deploying players and not playing to their strengths...

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i might just break my record of never betting against my team this week!!!

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bloody hell..

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You�never know, Liverpool might pull off a win at Man U ground, don't forget 'Old Trafford' is no longer unbeatable. [thumbsup]

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I welcome Torres with open hands... as long as he can still score goals...

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But, first and foremost, we must resolve the managerial post...

Hope FSG can axe BR and provide funds for a goal scorer and also a defender...

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No point buying players when BR is clueless in deploying players and not playing to their strengths...

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How about his wage demand?

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You�never know, Liverpool might pull off a win at Man U ground, don't forget 'Old Trafford' is no longer unbeatable.

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How about his wage demand?

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If he is still interested in Pool and interested in reviving his career, then he may lower his wages...

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But like what I said earlier, we need a good manager to maximise players' ability...

BR has obviously lost his plot in the dressing room...

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Anyway, I hope we can salvage a draw against manu...

1-1

Will BR be sacked if we lose 0-2 or 0-3 to Manu ? If so, let it be a one time pain ... Cuz I really hate this BR clown to the core..

i will not wish for pool to lose just to sack BR. i wish pool win and gus hiddink to replace BR

The current style of midfieldn player is very much built on what Suarez and Sturridge has to offer. I.e pacy and tricky strikers. Lambert Balotelli and Borini and not such breed. That's the reason why the midfield finds it very difficult to link up. In fact all three strikers fall in the same class as Carroll.

There is mismatch between the midfielders and the strikers. Having Lambert and Balotelli ain't a such a bad idea as it offers the manager a different tactic options as well cover for injury.

What Rodgers need in the Jan transfer window is to get a similar class replacement for Suraez. A striker who is pacry and tricky like Suarez. Then whatever Liverpool has been building on last season wont collapse like what is happening now.

Does anyone know how torres really feels about Liverpool after his departure? Does he hate or love Liverpool?

I thot he wrote an open letter to Pool fans?

I thot he wrote an open letter to Pool fans?

I don't blame him for wanting to leave. its career move afterall.

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his letter didn't explain anything if I remember correctly.

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anyway, if his wages drop I don't mind having him back

i will not wish for pool to lose just to sack BR. i wish pool win and gus hiddink to replace BR

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I don't care much abt BR.. just wanna Pool to snatch a win..

But at this current situation now, it will be a major boost if we can get a draw...

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If BR continue his crazy tactics... then no eye see liao . [bigcry]

I don't blame him for wanting to leave. its career move afterall.

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his letter didn't explain anything if I remember correctly.

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anyway, if his wages drop I don't mind having him back

if rafa came back, likely torres will score half of what he did the last time he played for us...

free transfer, low wages, no issue take him on... he bloody make the channels run better than any of our current strikers.

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btw, suso still injured? or another one frozen out by the rodgers?

The managers says he is the best man for the Liverpool job.

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He can talk all he wants but until he can get positive results through actions and winning matches on a regular basis again and finally winning trophies, i will mark him for the sack. FSG has to recognize this even when they have given verbal support to the manager directly. So what if the manager is the type FSG wants? Until such that the manager can arrogantly proclaimed he is the best man for the job? If the supporters think the performance and the results sucks, then he has to go! If FSG can't see that, and only think about resale value of the players and the club, then FSG has to go too!

http://imgur.com/WL89THC

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BR really knows how to trash talk:

�I think the message from me is clear: I don�t think there would be anyone better to do the job here,� he said. �Seven months ago we nearly won the title unexpectedly, I had time to work with players and we took them beyond where the club has been in a long time."

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sounds like he is why we were fighting last season and not the players.

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�The club has employed someone who, without being arrogant, believes he can get the best out of a senior player or a youth player. He will always maximise talents he has and I think last year proved that. This year a new group of players have come in and we have been unfortunate with injuries. The club is in a different place from others but that is something I accept as part of my job here at Liverpool.�

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Carroll, Agger, Reina, Borini, �Allen and a whole lot more

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Edited by Vegas, 14 December 2014 - 02:49 AM.

Torres was a player that was tremendous when he was with us.
However, I seriously doubt he is half the player he once.
The pace and the confidence is gone. Will he ever regain them?
While it is the "dream" that an ex-player return, halfway thru the season to rescue/propel us to greater glory.
I would prefer to remember El Ni�o as the person who wore our number 9 with such distinction, then have that image broken.....
I would loved to be proven wrong.

if rafa came back, likely torres will score half of what he did the last time he played for us...
free transfer, low wages, no issue take him on... he bloody make the channels run better than any of our current strikers.
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btw, suso still injured? or another one frozen out by the rodgers?

I think he had been trying very hard to ship out every player that hint on another manager work

The result last season is not due to BR tactics.

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It was Suarez, Sterling and Sturridge pace and direct running.

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With three players in full flight and interchanging positions

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so it was so difficult to mark them.

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BR tactics is slow tiki taka build up and he tried that for 10 games

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in his first season and it didn't work so he switched to more direct attacking.

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I don't care which manager uses what tactics... as long as we win matches at the end of the day :))

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They can score 1-0 for 38 matches :))

if rafa came back, likely torres will score half of what he did the last time he played for us...
free transfer, low wages, no issue take him on... he bloody make the channels run better than any of our current strikers.
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btw, suso still injured? or another one frozen out by the rodgers?

Torres was good cos he has SG, Alonso n Reina passing the ball to him...

If he comes back, he will join Liverpool's bench of extraordinary players lol

Mignolet cannot pass for nuts
SG might still be able to play once a week in the hole
no one is close to Alonso in the current team...

Pre match news coming out. Simon Mignolet could be dropped for tonight's match.

Man U vs Liverpool Predictions

0-1 - Ray

1-1 :)
My wish

manure 0-1Pool

Lineup confirmed: Jones, Skrtel, Lovren, Johnson, Moreno, Henderson, Allen, Gerrard, Coutinho, Lallana, Sterling.

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minolet dropped, no strikers!

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Confirmed #LFC substitutes: Mignolet, Toure, Lambert, Lucas, Can, Balotelli, Markovic.

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BR is either a farking genius to field a team with no strikers, all playing as false nine, or he needs to be sack!

Edited by Vegas, 14 December 2014 - 08:33 PM.

May the best team win bros... Let's all ejy the game!

manure 0-1Pool

Lineup confirmed: Jones, Skrtel, Lovren, Johnson, Moreno, Henderson, Allen, Gerrard, Coutinho, Lallana, Sterling.

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minolet dropped, no strikers!

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Confirmed #LFC substitutes: Mignolet, Toure, Lambert, Lucas, Can, Balotelli, Markovic.

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BR is either a farking genius to field a team with no strikers, all playing as false nine, or he needs to be sack!

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Flood the mid and hit on counter att seem to be his choice. Hope lallana and coutinho stay on the wing, henderson as box to box.

manure 0-1Pool

Lineup confirmed: Jones, Skrtel, Lovren, Johnson, Moreno, Henderson, Allen, Gerrard, Coutinho, Lallana, Sterling.
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minolet dropped, no strikers!
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Confirmed #LFC substitutes: Mignolet, Toure, Lambert, Lucas, Can, Balotelli, Markovic.
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BR is either a farking genius to field a team with no strikers, all playing as false nine, or he needs to be sack!

No Lucas... Cannot defend... No striker cannot score....

How huh??

toure has been playing so well....n gets dropped in an impt match. lucas also...in a game where defence is as impt as attack, gets dropped. i would say the 2 impt guys that made the defence stable is dropped for today. really puzzling.�

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my prediction: 3-0.

May the best team win bros... Let's all ejy the game!

Thks
may the best team wins
Man U is on form n higher on the table plus at home...game is Man U's to lose... pressure on Man U

As Liverpool fan, I think Man u has 60% chance to win but...
Liverpool always raise its game against Man U

YNWA

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