mycarforum: Liverpool 2014/15 Part 2 : Qtr Century On.... part 18

Season in perspective....

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Note: every storm cloud have a silver lining

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Currently Liverpool is occupying 5th Spot and 4 pts behind Man City (2nd at the moment).

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YNWA.

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Yeah if we cannot win it, lets try to finish higher than Man City.

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What it mean to us? It mean we are in a good position to win the league if we start playing well now.

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You know, i was feeling this same way after the City loss. Thinking it's not that bad� Then the same after villa, after boro� then i woke up� [bigcry]

Jose know what he want as striker. That's the only thing I give him

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We also know what we want in a striker and BR also wanted

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Costa but we couldn't afford to pay as much as Chelsea with

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their oil money. Afterall he Costa too much for us to pay.

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I just wished they kept the holiday�on Thursday

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so we can see the Pool game and not have to go to work.

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Hoping the RM players have an eye on their clash with Barca this weekend and get distracted (incidentally, that would be the first competitive game for Suarez in Barca colours)

Hoping the RM players have an eye on their clash with Barca this weekend and get distracted (incidentally, that would be the first competitive game for Suarez in Barca colours)

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I think even when RM switched off, they can beat us 2-0.

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On their best day, I think 4-0 is very possible.

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So for Pool -RM match, I say RM win by 3-0
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Edited by Icedbs, 20 October 2014 - 03:29 PM.

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You know, i was feeling this same way after the City loss. Thinking it's not that bad Then the same after villa, after boro then i woke up�

ThAt is why it's a big if. Lol

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win the league?
Haha. unless diego costa tear all his ligaments. Won't even come close to smelling chelsea.
If we play chelsea now, i predict at least a 0-3 loss for us.
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U gotta give it to Jose, the machine is back. It's a straight fight between chelsea and man city for the title. And i think it's very clear that Jose slip up less often than Pelligrini.�

LFC vs hull next week. Expect another struggle.

And last season, although we lost to Chelsea, pool was the better team with plenty of positive football attributes while chelsea was struggling to cope with pool's attack.

This season, chelsea had dealt decisively with their shortcomings and then where is pool now? Pool didn't build on where it has left. Sigh.....

And last season, although we lost to Chelsea, pool was the better team with plenty of positive football attributes while chelsea was struggling to cope with pool's attack.

This season, chelsea had dealt decisively with their shortcomings and then where is pool now? Pool didn't build on where it has left. Sigh.....

No choice. We always like to sell our star player of the season.

And last season, although we lost to Chelsea, pool was the better team with plenty of positive football attributes while chelsea was struggling to cope with pool's attack.

This season, chelsea had dealt decisively with their shortcomings and then where is pool now? Pool didn't build on where it has left. Sigh.....

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well chelsea has the big name manager and the transfer kitty to match. They have really forgone quantity for quality especially in midfield and forwards. Every player they buy may not be superstars but are all quality players.

In defence, actually their main players like ivanovic and azipulecta (his name dam hard to spell) all were relatively unknown.�

Of course they got like 2 damn good keepers alternating in GK. lol.

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Well at least mourinho is coaching his team to be dam good now, while we have to see what BR has to come up with.

BR is still a fairly inexperienced manager lah, have to see if he comes good especially when the chips are relatively down.

So far the young managers lauded last year - ponchettino, martinez, BR are all struggling.

Part of the issue is definitely due to inexperience and things not working out the way they wanted (though Martinez has been a BPL manager for a fair number of years).

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I think even when RM switched off, they can beat us 2-0.

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On their best day, I think 4-0 is very possible.

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So for Pool -RM match, I say RM win by 3-0
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If CR scores, it will be 5 - 0 to RM .... [sweatdrop]

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How to stop CR ....

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If CR scores, it will be 5 - 0 to RM ....

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How to stop CR ....

How BPL big teams�used to do is kick his leg.. then he turn silent for the whole match.

Jus watched the saints-sunderland highlights. Gd chance rodgers will buy tadic n pelle. Hehe

Jus watched the saints-sunderland highlights. Gd chance rodgers will buy tadic n pelle. Hehe

we already become southsea liao.. you want to be southamsea??

If I am not wrong CR has never scored at Anfield.

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Real Madrid and Liverpool have 15 European Cups between them

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but Real Madrid has never beaten Liverpool

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and I hope Iker Casillas makes a few bloopers

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so Pool does not lose that proud record.

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Real has a real weakness

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and it is Alvaro Arbeloa

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and Sterling should run at him.

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Pool's coaches all know about

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Arbeloa lack of positional sense.

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We are not scoring goals, but after last night match, we are still above Manu :))

We have a less potent strike force, and we spent less, and yet we are still above them :))

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Ok, looking forward to another great european night at Anfield :))

I hope you are right. I have to buy blood pressure reducing pills lately. =x

We are having a really bad season

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We are joint 4th and above Arsenal,

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Man U and Spurs but thats not really saying much.

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We need to be closer to Cheslea.

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We are having a really bad season
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We are joint 4th and above Arsenal,
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Man U and Spurs but thats not really saying much.
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We need to be closer to Cheslea.
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I think this year target is still top 4... But will really be close this time round..
If we can find our strike force back and our Defence can stay tight, we will have a chance..
That's IF ..

I think RM will thrash us 0-5....at least...

ok...im not as pessimistic...i think will lose at least 0-3.

I hope we play with pride and tackle like tigers.

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A bit of good news, Bale is sidelined and Ronaldo

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have never scored at Anfield. He can never get pass

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GJ but that was GJ in his pime and a bit faster than now.

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I hope we play with pride and tackle like tigers.

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A bit of good news, Bale is sidelined and Ronaldo

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have never scored at Anfield. He can never get pass

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GJ but that was GJ in his pime and a bit faster than now.

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Hope BR don't think Pool's attacking force can rip a hole in Madrid's defence. �Think we better play 2-5-4 (2 goalies because Mingolet cmi, 5 defenders and 4 midfield)� [shakehead]

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Seriously though, pool will probably line up 4-5-1�

We have match winners if players are in from like

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Sterling, Coutinho, Henderson and free kicks from

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Gerrard.

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We have match winners if players are in from like

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Sterling, Coutinho, Henderson and free kicks from

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Gerrard.

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Aiyoh, cannot always depend on unker's freekicks and thunderbolts lah...

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Aiyoh, cannot always depend on unker's freekicks and thunderbolts lah...

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Haha no choice.

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We don't have Suarez battling and twisting and turning�

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and Sturridge raw speed and acceleration to get us goals.

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actually casillas also very lousy now..

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im sure sterling is only slower than CR7.. can makan ramos and pepe for breakfast , lunch and dinner...

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lose by 1 or 2 goals ok liao..

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lose by 1 or 2 goals ok liao..

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mlmlwml� [shakehead]

I miss the time when we thrashed RM 4-0 in 2009 under RB..

Torres, SG and Dossena scored...

We were so freaking strong at home in UCL :))

That was the time...

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Could we play to the same level again this time round?

Don't know...

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But, let's keep our chins up and we cheer our team on !

Yeah !!

Will Singtel MIO Channel show live for tomorrow Pool vs RM game - 2,45am...

I miss the time when we thrashed RM 4-0 in 2009 under RB..

Torres, SG and Dossena scored...

We were so freaking strong at home in UCL :))

That was the time...

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Could we play to the same level again this time round?

Don't know...

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But, let's keep our chins up and we cheer our team on !

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now is BR hope score wont be 0-4

now is BR hope score wont be 0-4

Hahaha ..: what a coincidence

Anyway, hope the players can wake up from their slumberland and do their skills and salary a justice and make a good European night memorable for Anfield and us, fellow Pool supporters :))

Nobody watching??.. played not that bad so far but still down a goal. Gd movements by madrid n gd finish by ronaldo.

All the gd work done in 1st 20mins gone in a few mins. No one marking 2 madrid players at far post.

The trashing ia on...

If can avoid AOS scoreline consider damn good liao. Lollllll.

Halftime. Some records to b broken today. Ronaldo has nvr scored at anfield...gone. madrid has nvr won at anfield...gone. pool has nvr conceded more than 3 goals at anfield...soon to go.

This is interesting.,.lallana in for balo. I tink its the 1st time pool playing without striker.

Time to give the new boys some experience

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Edited by Jamesc, 23 October 2014 - 04:14 AM.

RM losing concentration and thinking Barca

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Pool press for 20 minutes and made if difficult for RM.

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Then they stop pressing and RM scored a goal.

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Then Pool gave up and let 2 more in.

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Gave over, Pool put the new boys in the second

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half to gain some experience.

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RM are a team of super stars and played well.

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Liverpool fans singing - you will never walk alone

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even when the team are 3 - 0 down and none

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have left anfield.

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heng ha .... only 0-3� [:)]

Madrid eased off a bit in 2nd half. I wonder wat the score will b if they full throttle.

heng ha .... only 0-3�

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As far as UCL goes, whether it was 0-1, 0-3 or 0-8 it's still the same. We�are unlikely to�get out of the group stages. Rather they focus on BPL properly.

Hopefully, this thrashing by RM will wake Rogers up from his slumber.

Liverpool fans singing - you will never walk alone

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even when the team are 3 - 0 down and none

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have left anfield.

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Thats why we are the Pool supporters ! :)

We will never ditch Liverpool even when the chips are down ! :)

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Anyway, back to game .... again, naive defensive cost us the points again, and of course, poor attacking too ...

Maybe, just maybe, Mario will not be playing anymore? He simply don't have the way of playing for Pool...

Ok, a poor performance after all...

Compared to last season, we are totally no where near it at all...

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Haiz...

Look forward to EPL ba, better catch hold of 4th placing so that at least we can still watch another season of UCL next year :)

real have barca this weekend.. hope Luis gets them for us!!.. haha

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well lose by 2-3 goals good enough..

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but another demoralising defeat and worse performance.. bpl is their #1 priority now.. dont even qualify for europa league from UCL..

Luckily or unluckily, we are now at 5th spot...

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Everybody know where's the problem, including BR and SG.

But, looks like it will take lots of time to remedy the defence and attack...

Defence is woeful to say the least, strikers are almost non-existent.

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The only thing we have now, is just purely luck !

Really hope we can survive with the whatever luck we have, before we can get reinforcement either thru' better players joining us, or when our existing players�UP their standards...

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Till then, just prepare for roller-coaster ride...

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YNWA

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Har har . . . bro, I'll wait at the roller-coaster ticketing booth this season.

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Hopefully, this thrashing by RM will wake Rogers up from his slumber.

~~Bala~~ Balo was a panic buy.

Madrid eased off a bit in 2nd half. I wonder wat the score will b if they full throttle.

They gibe face lah . . . [sweatdrop]

Edited by Count-Bracula, 23 October 2014 - 08:56 AM.

Look on the bright side they perform better then my predicted 0-4 only let in 3 goals. We had improve

my prediction of 0-3 loss is correct. if only i had bet on it...at least pool lose but i win. hehehe.

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anyway, they actually did pretty well in the 1st 20mins. only after madrid scored they lost some faith n did not press hard. the attack was not bad, jus didnt hv the finisher that hv been lacking so far. sturridge would hv made a difference.�

It could have been worse .... but Lludogorets won and the group is wide open again. Pool needs to beat Basel at home, that is the crucial match ... and beat ludogorets away .... not expecting them to get anything out of the away match to Real.... Good chance to get through to the next round.

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And for goodness sake, get rid of that bloody italian .... and I do not why BR is not giving any chance to Suso.... Lambert is fit and at least he works for the team unlike Balotelli.

It could have been worse .... but Lludogorets won and the group is wide open again. Pool needs to beat Basel at home, that is the crucial match ... and beat ludogorets away .... not expecting them to get anything out of the away match to Real.... Good chance to get through to the next round.

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And for goodness sake, get rid of that bloody italian .... and I do not why BR is not giving any chance to Suso.... Lambert is fit and at least he works for the team unlike Balotelli.

i think balo will b dropped agn for next match. suso is injured if im not wrong. mayb will see him play only in cup games. i do wish to see borini play. front 3 of him, sterling n coutinho looks better than with balo.

i heard mario asked for pepe's shirt at half time. BR is pissed.�

i think balo will b dropped agn for next match. suso is injured if im not wrong. mayb will see him play only in cup games. i do wish to see borini play. front 3 of him, sterling n coutinho looks better than with balo.

To me I felt Balo is paying for someone else incompetent. Balo is balo. U have to play to his strength. No I see is ppl trying to make him play like another player.

I rather play borini than lambert

To me I felt Balo is paying for someone else incompetent. Balo is balo. U have to play to his strength. No I see is ppl trying to make him play like another player.

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so what is balo strength?

He's not a good header of the ball despite his physique. At very best, only average.

He has a powerful shot sometimes but he needs to create his own opening which he's currently woeful at.

He's not drogba. He can muscle people off the ball but he seldom does it.

He doesn't do much running off the ball.�

His pace is ok but nowhere close to fast.

He often lays off the ball lazily.�

I rather play borini than lambert

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so what is balo strength?

He's not a good header of the ball despite his physique. At very best, only average.
He has a powerful shot sometimes but he needs to create his own opening which he's currently woeful at.
He's not drogba. He can muscle people off the ball but he seldom does it.
He doesn't do much running off the ball.�
His pace is ok but nowhere close to fast.
He often lays off the ball lazily.�

You see, he need to create his own opening. Isn't that telling u something?? br expect him to create his own opening aka playing him like Suarez.

He is not Suarez. Period. Stop playing him like Suarez.

You see, he need to create his own opening. Isn't that telling u something?? br expect him to create his own opening aka playing him like Suarez.

He is not Suarez. Period. Stop playing him like Suarez.

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if you don't do your own running off the ball into free areas and anticipate the moves, no midfield in the world can keep giving u silver platter opportunities lah.

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In a sense you're right, the midfield is not creating enough opportunities. But he's also at fault, cos he doesn't do jackshit when the ball comes to him.

the days of when robbie fowler/RVN can only stand in the box and wait for tap ins are gone.

Anyway balo is definitely not a fox in the box.�

anyway the team doesn't expect him to be suarez what. Have u seen them give him the ball and ask him to do something special?

Not in the games i've seen. In fact i feel sterling is the one who always kana this task.

I rather play borini than lambert

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so what is balo strength?

He's not a good header of the ball despite his physique. At very best, only average.

He has a powerful shot sometimes but he needs to create his own opening which he's currently woeful at.

He's not drogba. He can muscle people off the ball but he seldom does it.

He doesn't do much running off the ball.�

His pace is ok but nowhere close to fast.

He often lays off the ball lazily.�

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Currently known strength: He managed to convince BR, pool scouts etc to work out his move to Anfield?� [laugh]

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if you don't do your own running off the ball into free areas and anticipate the moves, no midfield in the world can keep giving u silver platter opportunities lah.

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In a sense you're right, the midfield is not creating enough opportunities. But he's also at fault, cos he doesn't do jackshit when the ball comes to him.

the days of when robbie fowler/RVN can only stand in the box and wait for tap ins are gone.

Anyway balo is definitely not a fox in the box.�

anyway the team doesn't expect him to be suarez what. Have u seen them give him the ball and ask him to do something special?

Not in the games i've seen. In fact i feel sterling is the one who always kana this task.

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Maybe BR believes he can create a hybrid between Barca and the German national team?�

Create your own opening ie facing a defender 1 on 1 and get your shot away without it being blocked.�

I think that's a basic ability of a striker lah.�

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Not to bamboozle the defender but to create the opening for ur shot to go through the defender.

If not 70%, at least 50% of the time.�

whether u want to do it as classy as suarez, as efficient as RVP or as ugly as mark hughes doesn't matter.

Edited by Lala81, 23 October 2014 - 10:23 AM.

Liverpool fans singing - you will never walk alone

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even when the team are 3 - 0 down and none

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have left anfield.

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yeah, i would have sung too

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but cannot otherwise wake the wife and kids up, and get scolding for being crazy

anyway the team overall is not doing well. Just that balo is a luxury player at this time.

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Inter were happy to sell him.

City were happy to sell him.

Milan were happy to sell him.�

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Maybe if he was playing for RM or bayern, he's a luxury that they can afford.�

He can be explosive occasionally. And very unpredictable.�
That are his strengths.

It could have been worse .... but Lludogorets won and the group is wide open again. Pool needs to beat Basel at home, that is the crucial match ... and beat ludogorets away .... not expecting them to get anything out of the away match to Real.... Good chance to get through to the next round.

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And for goodness sake, get rid of that bloody italian .... and I do not why BR is not giving any chance to Suso.... Lambert is fit and at least he works for the team unlike Balotelli.

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sibei heng ludogorets won

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now just hope that RM can win all their remaining grp games (except for the pool return leg)

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actually i rather see lambert than balo too, he has been given enough chances. let him play for the reserve team until he shows some form then put back to the squad!

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if you don't do your own running off the ball into free areas and anticipate the moves, no midfield in the world can keep giving u silver platter opportunities lah.
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In a sense you're right, the midfield is not creating enough opportunities. But he's also at fault, cos he doesn't do jackshit when the ball comes to him.

the days of when robbie fowler/RVN can only stand in the box and wait for tap ins are gone.
Anyway balo is definitely not a fox in the box.�

anyway the team doesn't expect him to be suarez what. Have u seen them give him the ball and ask him to do something special?
Not in the games i've seen. In fact i feel sterling is the one who always kana this task.

I actually thought that he do pretty well running into open space just that ppl passing always got intercepted.

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sibei heng ludogorets won
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now just hope that RM can win all their remaining grp games (except for the pool return leg)
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actually i rather see lambert than balo too, he has been given enough chances. let him play for the reserve team until he shows some form then put back to the squad!

Playing lambert or balo is the same as long as BR don't realise he need to change tactic to fit them in.

Playing lambert or balo is the same as long as BR don't realise he need to change tactic to fit them in.

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I would give borini a chance at this point. But can he play lone striker?

why not try false 9.. 4 -5 -1

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make it less predictable..

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could be

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sterling

lallana henderson gerrard can markovic

moreno lovren skrytel manquillo

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either lose alot or win alot..

To me I felt Balo is paying for someone else incompetent. Balo is balo. U have to play to his strength. No I see is ppl trying to make him play like another player.

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I am shallow ... I dont like him.

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Please enlighten me ...what are his strenghts and what is the best way to play him or play to his strength.

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I am sure that BR knows what he is buying .....

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sibei heng ludogorets won
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now just hope that RM can win all their remaining grp games (except for the pool return leg)
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actually i rather see lambert than balo too, he has been given enough chances. let him play for the reserve team until he shows some form then put back to the squad!

cannot... later balo angry chut pattern again and pool have to find another one to replace him...

sad night but well expected result... they will bounce back... hopefully we see it in next match

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yeah, i would have sung too
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but cannot otherwise wake the wife and kids up, and get scolding for being crazy

stay up to catch the game is steady enuff already...

like balo said, he prefers to play with another striker. means he needs a partner to draw the defenders away leaving him with more space. that itself is a weakness. he cant do anything if a defender stays close to him. he cant make space, he cant pass, he don know when to pass.

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to me his only strength is his powerful shot. that's all. he has strength, but so far has not shown or used it.�

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that's y i say play borini better. not as a lone striker, but a part of front 3. he, sterling n coutinho/lallana can interchange positions.

However, McManaman, who played for Liverpool from 1990-99, remains unconvinced about the 24-year-old.
"I have seen him many, many times and whether it was at [Inter or AC Milan] or Manchester City or now, his football doesn't deserve the reputation he's got. He's only a 16 million-pound forward; he's not a 20 million-pound forward, he's not a 30 million-pound forward. He's nowhere near as good as Sergio Aguero or Diego Costa, and that's why he's probably only 16 million pounds."

Ha think borini was almost sold for 14mil pounds.

well balo is still better than Erik Meijer. But barely.

Dirk Kuyt en route to Southampton

Kuyt could fly in Southampton

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Just in from The Mirror, Dirk Kuyt might be making his way to the Premier League from Turkish League powerhouse Fenerbahce during the winter window.

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Ronald Koeman is overseeing an impressive start to Southampton's season so far this season, with his squad sitting third in the table with 16 points in their first eight games. Kuyt would ostensibly provide cover for super-scoring front man Graziano Pelle, one of the many revelations for Saints thus far in 2014.

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There's history here as well. Koeman went after the Netherlands international when he managed Feyenoord in the Eredivisie in 2012. Kuyt bucked Liverpool for Fenerbahce that time around, but perhaps the two countrymen will connect on this second try.

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Kuyt -- who had 71 goals in 285 matches at Anfield and 24 goals in 104 international appearances -- is out of contract with the Istanbul club at the end of the season.

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link: http://www.espnfc.co...m-across-europe

While i think kuyt is very professional and still fit. He's not fast enough for the BPL definitely at this age.�

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I would give borini a chance at this point. But can he play lone striker?

I think really depend on BR tactics.

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I am shallow ... I dont like him.
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Please enlighten me ...what are his strenghts and what is the best way to play him or play to his strength.
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I am sure that BR knows what he is buying .....
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BR star player are not bought by him so far. Hard for me to say BR know what he is buying.

Balo?? He need a good provider. So far Pc had been mis placing his passes.

like balo said, he prefers to play with another striker. means he needs a partner to draw the defenders away leaving him with more space. that itself is a weakness. he cant do anything if a defender stays close to him. he cant make space, he cant pass, he don know when to pass.
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to me his only strength is his powerful shot. that's all. he has strength, but so far has not shown or used it.�
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that's y i say play borini better. not as a lone striker, but a part of front 3. he, sterling n coutinho/lallana can interchange positions.

As long as BR don't play borini at wings he should do fine.

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I am shallow ... I dont like him.

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Please enlighten me ...what are his strenghts and what is the best way to play him or play to his strength.

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I am sure that BR knows what he is buying .....

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Actually I think BR didn't know what he is buying.

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All he knows is that he is a big talent at 24, sells for really cheap at 16m, and at that price, it is a risk worth taking. If he perform, his value will go way beyond 16m, if he doesn't, his value can't be worse than 16m, At the time when the transfer window is about to close, such proposition is hard to resist so he went in for it.

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I feel that the issue with Pool is that the owners are having an "investment" philosophy...invest on young talent, hope they turn into some star and then bring in profits like the Suarez deal. Nothing wrong with such philosophy, just that the pace in BPL these-days doesn't allow such luxury time. Even ManU throw their investment philosophy aside and went for all the proven star players..never mind if they are old as long they are proven. At the very least, have a mix of young and proven world class players. And not mostly all young or have some older ones but they are merely mediocre at best.

Edited by Icedbs, 23 October 2014 - 12:14 PM.

Well they did buy lallana who's not young. And also lambert to add some experience.�

Our attack is pathetic to say the least... and our defense is porous at its worst...

Which means, we lack bite and when we concede, our morale just gone down...

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Now, any team, will know how to counter us...

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We really need the defence to wake up... tighten up and don't let the cross come in..

isn't defence the form of attack ?!

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We can't always depend on DS�if our defence constantly let in goals...�

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Hmm.. bought the better players from Soton, and yet they are above us, and scoring goals for fun ... haiz..

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Hope BR and the players can wake up, and I would rather play the youngers if need be..

And our youngters just won 3-2 against Real Madrid :)

So, there is still hope in our youth :))

Our attack is pathetic to say the least... and our defense is porous at its worst...

Which means, we lack bite and when we concede, our morale just gone down...

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Edited by Mason016, 23 October 2014 - 01:28 PM.

im curious.. any bros where have any view of passing up on loic remy?�

juz found it incredulous that he could fail a medical at a top club.. and get taken by another...�

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heart defect or not... he is performing better than balo at � price...�

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strikers will ultimately be judged by no. of goals scored...�

Balo will come gd, when DS is back. He really need a partner. His movement and work rate has improved alot since his man city days. He is too static to play as a lone striker, we are asking him to change his way of playing for many yrs therefore the slow result.

He do know how to att the ball or create a target for the mid or winger once in dangerous position. Out of the two own goals QPR conceded was due to his positioning.

You can see that he is really trying and playing a cool face. Too much pressure on his shoulder and media trying make him a scapegoat.

As long as he wear the liverpool shirt i will give him my full support.

YNWA (crouch, kyut, lucus, henderson, come on U Balo milo boy!)

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Actually I think BR didn't know what he is buying.
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All he knows is that he is a big talent at 24, sells for really cheap at 16m, and at that price, it is a risk worth taking. If he perform, his value will go way beyond 16m, if he doesn't, his value can't be worse than 16m, At the time when the transfer window is about to close, such proposition is hard to resist so he went in for it.
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I feel that the issue with Pool is that the owners are having an "investment" philosophy...invest on young talent, hope they turn into some star and then bring in profits like the Suarez deal. Nothing wrong with such philosophy, just that the pace in BPL these-days doesn't allow such luxury time. Even ManU throw their investment philosophy aside and went for all the proven star players..never mind if they are old as long they are proven. At the very least, have a mix of young and proven world class players. And not mostly all young or have some older ones but they are merely mediocre at best.

Wanted to praise you on this post but it seems like I praised you before so have to wait.

I agree with what you said. They bought him because he is cheap at 16 million. But he doesn't suit BR liverpool style of play currently.

Personally I don't like strikers who are too tall or too short. Must have decent pace and skill, and strong. An example, I will always prefer Noh Alam Shah than Indra Sahdan or Alexander Duric.

Frankly speaking BR should be solely responsible for liverpool's current problems. I feel his ability to handle the press is beginning to sound more patronising every single day. And I don't like it at all.

Balo will come gd, when DS is back. He really need a partner. His movement and work rate has improved alot since his man city days. He is too static to play as a lone striker, we are asking him to change his way of playing for many yrs therefore the slow result.

He do know how to att the ball or create a target for the mid or winger once in dangerous position. Out of the two own goals QPR conceded was due to his positioning.

You can see that he is really trying and playing a cool face. Too much pressure on his shoulder and media trying make him a scapegoat.

As long as he wear the liverpool shirt i will give him my full support.

YNWA (crouch, kyut, lucus, henderson, come on U Balo milo boy!)

Crouch is more skilful. Surprisingly for a tall player like him.

Liverpool supporters have always demand effort, and giving 100%.

Crouch is more skilful. Surprisingly for a tall player like him.

Liverpool supporters have always demand effort, and giving 100%.

When we just got crouch he went thru a first few weeks of terrible dry spell. For someone his height he do have some elegant touch.

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Actually I think BR didn't know what he is buying.
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All he knows is that he is a big talent at 24, sells for really cheap at 16m, and at that price, it is a risk worth taking. If he perform, his value will go way beyond 16m, if he doesn't, his value can't be worse than 16m, At the time when the transfer window is about to close, such proposition is hard to resist so he went in for it.
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I feel that the issue with Pool is that the owners are having an "investment" philosophy...invest on young talent, hope they turn into some star and then bring in profits like the Suarez deal. Nothing wrong with such philosophy, just that the pace in BPL these-days doesn't allow such luxury time. Even ManU throw their investment philosophy aside and went for all the proven star players..never mind if they are old as long they are proven. At the very least, have a mix of young and proven world class players. And not mostly all young or have some older ones but they are merely mediocre at best.

The philosophy is okay if u are able to unearth gem. Now the scout and manager foresight is still in question.

When we just got crouch he went thru a first few weeks of terrible dry spell. For someone his height he do have some elegant touch.

I dare say he has one of the better leg work in Liverpool when he was here. Especially in close confinement.

I used to joke with my friend that we have a tall striker (crouch) who can shoot very well with legs and poor with header and a short striker (Bellamy) who is good at header and poor at shooting.

You see, he need to create his own opening. Isn't that telling u something?? br expect him to create his own opening aka playing him like Suarez.

He is not Suarez. Period. Stop playing him like Suarez.

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MB is a real disappointment for me. Even at "just" 16M. At first i thought ok lah given the price and that he is young, sure at least won't be a waste. But gawd i was wrong....the way he shoot also like secondary school. Just back swing and kick. Sigh...

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MB is a real disappointment for me. Even at "just" 16M. At first i thought ok lah given the price and that he is young, sure at least won't be a waste. But gawd i was wrong....the way he shoot also like secondary school. Just back swing and kick. Sigh...

Sometimes when we look at a player, we can see whether he has brain or not, and ?????????

im curious.. any bros where have any view of passing up on loic remy?�

juz found it incredulous that he could fail a medical at a top club.. and get taken by another...�

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heart defect or not... he is performing better than balo at � price...�

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strikers will ultimately be judged by no. of goals scored...�

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Loic remy, this issue with his heart. I think it's better safe than sorry. Even though i have no idea what condition he has.

From a business point of view, i can see why they didn't pursue.

The philosophy is okay if u are able to unearth gem. Now the scout and manager foresight is still in question.

I dare say he has one of the better leg work in Liverpool when he was here. Especially in close confinement.

I used to joke with my friend that we have a tall striker (crouch) who can shoot very well with legs and poor with header and a short striker (Bellamy) who is good at header and poor at shooting.

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Lol we've bought all sorts here.

Tall but skinny like F. Fall over constantly from defenders manhandling but never gets the foul called against him.

Tall and seems robust but constantly also fall over cos his balance is poor for a big guy.

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Loic remy, this issue with his heart. I think it's better safe than sorry. Even though i have no idea what condition he has.

From a business point of view, i can see why they didn't pursue.

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Lol we've bought all sorts here.

Tall but skinny like F. Fall over constantly from defenders manhandling but never gets the foul called against him.

Tall and seems robust but constantly also fall over cos his balance is poor for a big guy.

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comes to mind... crouch, mario, morientes, heskey, diouf, meijer, .. anymore floppers??

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comes to mind... crouch, mario, morientes, heskey, diouf, meijer, .. anymore floppers??

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Pool seems to have few good hits and and many bad misses with strikers� [shakehead] �Sack the scout and get a new one lah.�

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Pool seems to have few good hits and and many bad misses with strikers� �Sack the scout and get a new one lah.�

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sometimes it may not be the scout problem. They also need to work within a specific set of guidelines dictated by the owners. And we know that when comes to owners, their main interest� is ROI which may not always means immediate good performance on the pitch.

Good strikers are always prized. I usually criticise the scouts/management more if they buy lousy defenders or lousy midfielders lol.

Before Costa really showed his stuff at atletico last year, we already wanted to buy. But just no deep enough pockets or strong enough reputation to succeed.�

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Few of the players that they pursued, Salah, Henrik M, Willian are all good players. Just that we couldn't land them.

either the strikers are very good .. owen, fowler, torres, suarez

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or very the lousy... (the rest)

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even good strikers with high scoring rates also turn out to be best defenders..� who help to defend the opposition net by not scoring..

Good strikers are always prized. I usually criticise the scouts/management more if they buy lousy defenders or lousy midfielders lol.

Before Costa really showed his stuff at atletico last year, we already wanted to buy. But just no deep enough pockets or strong enough reputation to succeed.�

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Few of the players that they pursued, Salah, Henrik M, Willian are all good players. Just that we couldn't land them.

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salah looks like another shaqiri type..� alot of hype but may not reach full potential in a star studded team..

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Mkihertaria? & willian were the more promising buys... but these 3 are all very speedy..

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well we definitely cant attract them.. either Liverpool as a city is not good enough.. example being London..

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we dint have the $$$ to pay transfer fees... due to oil rich $$

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But costa was also coverted by AW.. seems he has many regrets over players that he dint sign recently.. CR7, drogba, costa...

"We had an incident last year with a player and it was dealt with. It's exactly the same," Rodgers said.�"I heard about it when I came off the pitch. I don't like that.�It's something that doesn't happen here, it shouldn't happen here.�For me, if you want to do that it's something you do at the end of the game. I will deal with that tomorrow (Thursday)."
Balotelli has scored just once in 10 appearances for the Reds and Rodgers was scathing when asked to compare his forward's lethargic effort against Real to the more whole-hearted endeavours of his team-mates.

"I felt we needed more movement centrally, so I moved Raheem (Sterling) there to occupy the centre-backs," Rodgers said.�"In the second half you could see every player pressing and working.�At Liverpool that is the minimum we expect. You could see Adam Lallana�when he came on he was tireless in his work."

haha this is the worst i've heard BR criticise any LFC player.

He must really be sibei pissed...

But costa was also coverted by AW.. seems he has many regrets over players that he dint sign recently.. CR7, drogba, costa...

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Ha Le Professor mah.�

AW is notoriously a football geek. He spends his spare time watching the lesser known leagues.

I'm not surprised he seen these top players in action long ago. But somehow he don't act lor... ...

Salah haha will have wasted his potential going to chelsea.

End up another de bruyne or even worse...

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salah looks like another shaqiri type..� alot of hype but may not reach full potential in a star studded team..

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Mkihertaria? & willian were the more promising buys... but these 3 are all very speedy..

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Lol. I think this is true. This season will really show BR as a manager. He's cocking things up now, but we'll see how the season goes come May.

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At some point between Sunday and Wednesday, Brendan Rodgers will have gathered Colin Pascoe and his coaching staff around a table, probably with some fondue (he seems like a fondue kinda guy. Maybe sushi, actually...), some scented candles and a Yanni CD. They will have discussed the best way to deal with a Real Madrid team that had won their previous seven games by an aggregate score of 33-4.
The group will have enjoyed the molten cheese-covered meats/weird combination of raw fish and cold rice, looked at their squad, considered the players available to them, evaluated what would be the best method of stopping Cristiano Ronaldo and chums, and possibly even getting something out of the game themselves, and eventually come to a definitive conclusion: we'll pick Joe Allen.

It's an interesting time to be Brendan Rodgers. Of course, Brendan Rodgers will tell you that any time is interesting to be Brendan Rodgers, because Brendan Rodgers is brilliant. A man who educates players, rather than training them. Who can live without water for days, but not a second without hope. Who is his own biggest mentor.

But this is a particularly interesting time for Brendan, firstly because it's not entirely clear what's expected of him, and secondly because this is the season in which we'll discover exactly how good he is.

Last season's title challenge came about due to something of a perfect storm for Liverpool. They had the best player in the Premier League, one of the best goalscorers, an explosive youngster beginning to make an impact, a relatively clean fitness record, no added workload of European competition and the added bonus of basically everybody else being in varying degrees of shambles.

Now Luis Suarez has gone, Daniel Sturridge is injured, Raheem Sterling genuinely has looked tired, they have the Champions League to concern themselves with and their rivals are gradually getting their heads together. The opening two paragraphs to this piece were not necessarily a criticism of Rodgers or his coaching staff, but simply an illustration of the state Liverpool currently find themselves in.

In short, last season was their big chance; if they didn't win the Premier League then, the chances are they won't do it for a few years yet. Unless something extraordinary happens, they blew their best opportunity for a while.

So what constitutes success for Liverpool and Brendan this season? He will tell you they want to win the league, to kick on from last season etc and so on and other such platitudes, but he must know that isn't especially realistic. Basically everyone around Liverpool has improved (whether Arsenal have is debatable given their defence, but Alexis Sanchez will pep up any side) while they themselves are worse, in their first-choice XI anyway. No other realistic title challenger lost a player they didn't want to lose, so any hopes of correcting the mistakes of last term are optimistic, to say the least.

And really, that's OK. Rodgers is basically ahead of schedule anyway - the aim when he was appointed was to get back into the Champions League in three years, and with that goal comfortably nailed inside two, Rodgers is now playing with house money. It does confuse things in terms of what's expected of him now, though. The logical progression from making the top four is to have a proper go at the top spot, but given the factors already outlined, something a little more modest must be expected.

Whatever the expectations, this is the season that we'll find out how good Rodgers really is. A common and oft-discussed phenomenon is second season/album syndrome, when a manager or band has initial, relatively instant success but can't follow it up, but obviously that doesn't apply to Rodgers. He isn't the Strokes or the Stone Roses, arriving with a bang but not able to follow it up to the same standard, but rather more like Radiohead. Much like Rodgers, they produced a first record that carried promise but weren't quite there, before coming up with a sophomore effort that exceeded expectations and made them critical darlings.

The third album is when you prove none of what came before is a fluke, but as things stand, Rodgers doesn't appear to be halfway through recording 'OK Computer'. Liverpool's season isn't going to plan for any number of reasons, and Rodgers' decision-making is a big part of that. Sterling's much-discussed fatigue may well be conveniently blamed on England, but it wasn't Roy Hodgson who played the 19-year-old for 120 minutes (plus penalties) of a League Cup tie against Middlesbrough. A couple of his signings do, at this early stage, look questionable at best, out of their depth at worst. And his approach to Mario Balotelli has been risky to say the least, publicly describing the striker as a risk, the last toy on the shelf when everything else had gone and basically laughing off comparison to Luis Suarez. Rodgers may have decided that tough love is the way to go with Balotelli, but while it would be unfair to blame the Italian's listlessness entirely on the manager, it's clear that his approach to motivation isn't working so far.

If Rodgers isn't careful, this season will be more comparable to 'Yes Please!', the Happy Mondays' third effort and the album that basically bankrupted Factory records, after Tony Wilson sent the band to Barbados, the theory being that they could get away from the ruinous amounts of drugs they were consuming in the UK. Of course, the flaw in that plan was they forgot that Barbados was the crack capital of the world, which proved a little problematic when chaps like Bez and Shaun Ryder were involved.

Radiohead showed they were the real thing with their third record. The coming months will tell us whether Rodgers is the real thing too.

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Reds see off Spanish counterparts 3-2 with youngster grabbing a dramatic last-gasp winner - and getting a hug of his mum.

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The under-19s. [thumbsup]

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I see a lot of people criticising MB here.

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Jordan Henderson?

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He is not Liverpool quality, he is useless, we shouldn't have bought him,

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he is not worth 20 million?

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Any of you here also criticised Allen and Lucas?�

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I see a lot of people criticising MB here.

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Jordan Henderson?

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He is not Liverpool quality, he is useless, we shouldn't have bought him,

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he is not worth 20 million?

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Any of you here also criticised Allen and Lucas?�

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JH - defended. Now i feel he's being overrated by many critics.

Allen - neutral. F him a bit when he missed that bloody sitter though.

Lucas - critcised. praised. then criticised again. Think he should move to a slower league where his attributes will be clearer to see.

Hope we end up like Arsenal. Always kana criticised somewhere along the season for their mid to end slump, injury crisis.�

Then still end up 4th lol.

I see a lot of people criticising MB here.

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Jordan Henderson?

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He is not Liverpool quality, he is useless, we shouldn't have bought him,

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he is not worth 20 million?

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Any of you here also criticised Allen and Lucas?�

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hoping against hope that MB will shine with DS back in partnership

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if that also doesnt happen, then i think he has no more future in pool

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MB is a real disappointment for me. Even at "just" 16M. At first i thought ok lah given the price and that he is young, sure at least won't be a waste. But gawd i was wrong....the way he shoot also like secondary school. Just back swing and kick. Sigh...

Actually If u see beyong his miss kicks he actually position himself very well in attack. Provide a much needed through pass at time and win most of the high ball but right towards the keeper.

I just felt that he is been used wrongly. That's my opinion though.

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comes to mind... crouch, mario, morientes, heskey, diouf, meijer, .. anymore floppers??

I won't consider crouch as flopper. Just that when he started to score constantly... Torres is bought.

I see a lot of people criticising MB here.
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he is not worth 20 million?
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I still critics Allen. In fact the only player I critice on ur list is Allen.

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