Seat side panel and the box in the middle wrapped. steering not wrapped.What Colour you chose? Just the steering wheel or include the seats? Can share some pic bro?
I booked my FNA at end of Apr and got my COE first bid after I booked, which is $51010. My NG discount is only $1000, hence it should be 6 bid NG instead of 8 bid.But I think no difference between 6 and 8 bids NG, MI will firm your COE in first two bids.
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Wow thats 10k off what I got..thats the FNA price now. Such is buying cars...like stock market.
Thats 25k of what I've got but I got 5 years free servicing. Guess that's the only consolation.
What Colour you chose? Just the steering wheel or include the seats? Can share some pic bro?
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If I had known that the S$500 fee to change the leather colour (from dark grey) actually included an upgrade to the quality of the leather, plus longer warranty (standard warranty from MI's leather vendor, Leather Etc Pte Ltd, is 1 year), I'd have definitely considered it for my 2016 Legacy. Cuz for just a colour change, $500 seemed like a splurge. CO would have killed me. But leather quality upgrade + long warranty are easy to justify.
I also didnt know but thinking deeper: 1) quality of leather wont make palpable improvement in comfort. Durability wise, by definition leather is animal skin and needs oils to be conditioned so still need to conditionIf I had known that the S$500 fee to change the leather colour (from dark grey) actually included an upgrade to the quality of the leather, plus longer warranty (standard warranty from MI's leather vendor, Leather Etc Pte Ltd, is 1 year), I'd have definitely considered it for my 2016 Legacy. Cuz for just a colour change, $500 seemed like a splurge. CO would have killed me. But leather quality upgrade + long warranty are easy to justify.
2) leather warranty is to cover mainly premature wear. But in fact if dont take care, whether better or worse quality, will still crack and decolour especially for high abrasion areas. Its ppl lack of maintenance rather than lack of quality that makes leather crack and wear off.
Id rather pocket the $500.
Only "benefit" I see is able to see dirt easier on non-black and serve as indicator for cleaning.
Edited by Rachdanom, 02 June 2016 - 12:18 PM.
Thanks, you've actually made me feel better about not upgrading (or even knowing we can upgrade). You definitely have a point. But it also might be true that, all things remaining equal (you clean and condition regularly), better quality leather may look nice, stay supple, and resist cracking and abrasion, for longer than the standard leather. I guess we'll find out in a few years.I also didnt know but thinking deeper: 1) quality of leather wont make palpable improvement in comfort. Durability wise, by definition leather is animal skin and needs oils to be conditioned so still need to condition
2) leather warranty is to cover mainly premature wear. But in fact if dont take care, whether better or worse quality, will still crack and decolour especially for high abrasion areas. Its ppl lack of maintenance rather than lack of quality that makes leather crack and wear off.
Id rather pocket the $500.
Only "benefit" I see is able to see dirt easier on non-black and serve as indicator for cleaning.
I wonder though. Standard MI leather from Leather Etc Pte Ltd comes with 4 free leather conditioning sessions, in addition to the 1 year warranty. So how many sessions come with the 4-year warranty? Care to share, SJGDKK8?
Husbands who listen to their CO usually are much better off and with more successful. Cos help us think with our heads. While those who don't listen think with the small Brother.If I had known that the S$500 fee to change the leather colour (from dark grey) actually included an upgrade to the quality of the leather, plus longer warranty (standard warranty from MI's leather vendor, Leather Etc Pte Ltd, is 1 year), I'd have definitely considered it for my 2016 Legacy. Cuz for just a colour change, $500 seemed like a splurge. CO would have killed me. But leather quality upgrade + long warranty are easy to justify.
So consider yourself blessed.. Unless you don't think so?
Husbands who listen to their CO usually are much better off and with more successful. Cos help us think with our heads. While those who don't listen think with the small Brother.
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this happen to my friend who bought a KIA K3 from C&C.
1. he signed up for 4bid NG.
2. during last bid on 18/5/16(2nd bid). About 3:30pm the SE called my friend asking him wanna top up $2K for guarantee COE?
3. my friend told the SE nevermind, if never get never mind just wait for 3rd and 4th bid.
4. after the COE result. the SE text my friend said that his COE is secured at $47,020 Cat A.
5. he is collecting the car next week.
So I think is on case to case. still confuse about the tactic of the SE on 4bid NG, 6 bid NG and 8bid NG!!
may be if buyer never nego and pay the listed price, then can get car on the following week. hahaha
Just curious, what would happen if after all bids on Non-G COE still cannot get. Will they renegotiate the price?
By right refund deposit lor
this happen to my friend who bought a KIA K3 from C&C.
1. he signed up for 4bid NG.
2. during last bid on 18/5/16(2nd bid). About 3:30pm the SE called my friend asking him wanna top up $2K for guarantee COE?
3. my friend told the SE nevermind, if never get never mind just wait for 3rd and 4th bid.
4. after the COE result. the SE text my friend said that his COE is secured at $47,020 Cat A.
5. he is collecting the car next week.
So I think is on case to case. still confuse about the tactic of the SE on 4bid NG, 6 bid NG and 8bid NG!!
may be if buyer never nego and pay the listed price, then can get car on the following week. hahaha
By right refund deposit lor
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just curious that the subbies don't come with navigation. almost all the other cars brands we test drove have this by default. i'm surprised.
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found a nice lady. Jass Chan.
now trying to decide between forester and outback.
i find the turbo foresters have better drive but wifey likes the outback for the huge space and comfort. lol
just curious that the subbies don't come with navigation. almost all the other cars brands we test drove have this by default. i'm surprised.
Won't go much wrong with either one...
yeah.
found a nice lady. Jass Chan.
now trying to decide between forester and outback.
i find the turbo foresters have better drive but wifey likes the outback for the huge space and comfort. lol
just curious that the subbies don't come with navigation. almost all the other cars brands we test drove have this by default. i'm surprised.
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Want to take my FXT to Malaysia for a ride next week. Now need VEP to enter Malaysia. I tried to register at their website but still waiting for them to send me a link to register. As they said the actual date of implementation is in July. Without VEP registration, any problem at the checkpoint.
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just curious that the subbies don't come with navigation. almost all the other cars brands we test drove have this by default. i'm surprised.
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Many other brands that offer nav built into their HUs rely on locally supplied-and-fitted HUs (Eurostyle in the case of Kia, and another OEM vendor that supplies both Hyundai and Nissan, if I remember right) that aren't the same as the stock HUs in overseas models. Why? To keep OMV low. So, you end up with a China-made HU that gets the job done and provides nav, but doesn't always have the best UI/UX or performance.
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In contrast, the HU in the FXT, Outback and Legacy are the stock Japanese HUs, minus Eyesight and Starlink. Made in Japan, but shipped to Singapore separately from our cars, then installed locally. The result is lower OMV without sacrificing the "real" stock HU. I assume that adding SG navigation would require cost and effort in Japan by Subaru HU vendor Fujitsu Ten - cost and effort that's probably higher than with China-made OEM units, and therefore too much for MI.
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Stripped down? How so? I actually bought a Subaru because they threw in more stuff for the money compared to the competition, not less. Looking at the competition, Honda Sensing's only brought in by PI, and Hyundai's and Kia's equivalent also aren't offered by Komoco and C&C.
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Depends on front seat adjustement, which is hard to get consistent across different makes/models you'd want to compare.
Navigation sys is subjective also.seen pple dun like the built in gps platform and use ext gps or hp gmap/ waze which is much better
I at 1st felt shortchanged too then thinking deeper why pay more for something I will seldom use in Sg, and I dont drive up north. More things also mean more things that spoil. Just few bucks suction holder does the job.
Another update on xt fc. After 570km on mix traffic, I still have 1/4 tank left. The trip computer indicated another 140km to go before empty tank. So far the trip computer seems pretty accurate. Getting 11km/L is quite eat on this car unless u do like 70% or more city driving.
That is fantastic mileage, you must be doing 90% highway. BTW what petrol are you using?
Another update on xt fc. After 570km on mix traffic, I still have 1/4 tank left. The trip computer indicated another 140km to go before empty tank. So far the trip computer seems pretty accurate. Getting 11km/L is quite eat on this car unless u do like 70% or more city driving.
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Stripped down? How so? I actually bought a Subaru because they threw in more stuff for the money compared to the competition, not less. Looking at the competition, Honda Sensing's only brought in by PI, and Hyundai's and Kia's equivalent also aren't offered by Komoco and C&C.
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Stripped down compared to JDM. just like my Legacy 4th gen, JDM version already with Eyesight, traction control and keyless start, plus Bilstein suspension. Tuned with STI there means Brembo brake and STI rims plus other STI goodies, not like over here, just tune your engine map and nothing else.
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so for current Forester, JDM XT default with Eyesight 3 will give you all the associated safety features like auto-braking, plus auto high-beam, blindspot detection, rear traffic detection when reversion out of parking lot, etc.
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in USA, Australia, and even Japan, this option is just like $3k. not like something that we can't afford or ridiculous prices like options in some continental makes.
Many other brands that offer nav built into their HUs rely on locally supplied-and-fitted HUs (Eurostyle in the case of Kia, and another OEM vendor that supplies both Hyundai and Nissan, if I remember right) that aren't the same as the stock HUs in overseas models. Why? To keep OMV low. So, you end up with a China-made HU that gets the job done and provides nav, but doesn't always have the best UI/UX or performance.
In contrast, the HU in the FXT, Outback and Legacy are the stock Japanese HUs, minus Eyesight and Starlink. Made in Japan, but shipped to Singapore separately from our cars, then installed locally. The result is lower OMV without sacrificing the "real" stock HU. I assume that adding SG navigation would require cost and effort in Japan by Subaru HU vendor Fujitsu Ten - cost and effort that's probably higher than with China-made OEM units, and therefore too much for MI.
So, you win some, you lose some. Up to you what's more important. FWIW, I appreciate the Japanese-made HU, which has great UI/UX, and rock-solid Siri Eyes Free and Subaru Voice Command integration. YMMV.
Of course, the ideal solution would be for Subaru to use the new Impreza HUs that have Carplay and Android Auto built in, but that probably won't happen until a model face-lift or refresh.
Stripped down? How so? I actually bought a Subaru because they threw in more stuff for the money compared to the competition, not less. Looking at the competition, Honda Sensing's only brought in by PI, and Hyundai's and Kia's equivalent also aren't offered by Komoco and C&C.
Depends on front seat adjustement, which is hard to get consistent across different makes/models you'd want to compare.
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Stripped down compared to JDM. just like my Legacy 4th gen, JDM version already with Eyesight, traction control and keyless start, plus Bilstein suspension. Tuned with STI there means Brembo brake and STI rims plus other STI goodies, not like over here, just tune your engine map and nothing else.
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so for current Forester, JDM XT default with Eyesight 3 will give you all the associated safety features like auto-braking, plus auto high-beam, blindspot detection, rear traffic detection when reversion out of parking lot, etc.
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I hear you. Obviously, I'd like Eyesight and nav too. The full Starlink works, plus apps, would be even nicer. Let's not even get started on the 3.6l flat six engine option. Eyesight and auto-braking could save lives.
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I thought you meant stripped down compared to other comparable offerings in the Singapore market, which was curious. But if you mean stripped down compared to JDM, that's the case with practically every Japanese make sold here, right?
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Again, it comes down to the ARF tax regime pegged to OMV. I get your point that Eyesight wouldn't inflate OMV by as much as some other options out there. But it would still make a considerable difference to dealer margins and, therefore, selling price. ARF above $20k is 140%, after all, so your hypothetical $3k increase in OMV would translate to $4.2k in ARF. OMV is actually already creeping up for many Subaru models. When the 6th-gen Legacy was launched last year, OMV was something like $18k. It's now almost $22k, thanks in part to 2016 improvements like BSD and Siri Eyes Free. Add Eyesight and the price might not be the bargain it currently is vs Sonata, K5, Accord and Camry.
The new facelift forester come with starlink iirc
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Thanks for the heads up! If true, that would be pretty cool. But the picture looks like the current Legacy/Outback HU leh. Some people use "Starlink" loosely to refer to the Fujitsu Ten OEM head unit, cuz they don't know what else to call it. FXT owners, are your HUs the same as the Legacy/Outback ones? Maybe the 2016 face-lift just upgrades the HU to the Legacy/Outback one. Anyone know for sure?
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I hear you. Obviously, I'd like Eyesight and nav too. The full Starlink works, plus apps, would be even nicer. Let's not even get started on the 3.6l flat six engine option. Eyesight and auto-braking could save lives.
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I thought you meant stripped down compared to other comparable offerings in the Singapore market, which was curious. But if you mean stripped down compared to JDM, that's the case with practically every Japanese make sold here, right?
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Again, it comes down to the ARF tax regime pegged to OMV. I get your point that Eyesight wouldn't inflate OMV by as much as some other options out there. But it would still make a considerable difference to dealer margins and, therefore, selling price. ARF above $20k is 140%, after all, so your hypothetical $3k increase in OMV would translate to $4.2k in ARF. OMV is actually already creeping up for many Subaru models. When the 6th-gen Legacy was launched last year, OMV was something like $18k. It's now almost $22k, thanks in part to 2016 improvements like BSD and Siri Eyes Free. Add Eyesight and the price might not be the bargain it currently is vs Sonata, K5, Accord and Camry.
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Thanks for the heads up! If true, that would be pretty cool. But the picture looks like the current HU leh. Some people use "Starlink" loosely to refer to the Fujitsu Ten OEM head unit, cuz they don't know what else to call it.
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I at 1st felt shortchanged too then thinking deeper why pay more for something I will seldom use in Sg, and I dont drive up north. More things also mean more things that spoil. Just few bucks suction holder does the job.
Actually it is true, Subaru cars have less intelligent gadgets... When I tried Xtrail I was pretty impressed with the 360 parking view and self tilted mirror etc... But some folk like me dun really find a need for them... Maybe so...it's rather stripped down compared to the other SUVs in it's class no? take 2 common contenders. Tucson and X trail.
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anyway just nitpicking. it's a pretty good car lah
Nearly every other brand including volve XC60, Renault kadjar or Q5 their cheaper version don't come with huge moon roof, actually none. If I was in a sedan it don't matter... But in a SUV the sunroof is a must for me. My initial choice was FNA instead of FXT so to me it was kinda my rational of buying forester.
Actually it is true, Subaru cars have less intelligent gadgets... When I tried Xtrail I was pretty impressed with the 360 parking view and self tilted mirror etc... But some folk like me dun really find a need for them... Maybe so...
Ppl say to cool car faster during a hot day thats about it.
Edited by Rachdanom, 03 June 2016 - 02:47 PM.
Nearly every other brand including volve XC60, Renault kadjar or Q5 their cheaper version don't come with huge moon roof, actually none. If I was in a sedan it don't matter... But in a SUV the sunroof is a must for me. My initial choice was FNA instead of FXT so to me it was kinda my rational of buying forester.
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Edited by Little_prince, 03 June 2016 - 02:51 PM.
it's rather stripped down compared to the other SUVs in it's class no? take 2 common contenders. Tucson and X trail.
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Maybe the Outback's a more direct competitor for those two? Yes, 2.5 NA vs 2.0 NA, but part of the appeal of the Outback (road tax aside) is you get 2.5 NA for the price of 2.0 NA. Outback got moonroof, rear aircon, rear parking cam, and iirc should have BSD too for the latest model. But of course 360 cam is even better lah, and there's no nav at all, let alone sat nav. And if you bring the FXT into the picture, the FXT's engine makes up for everything else.
Outback has rear detection radar.. Tested it , sensitive for cars from 100m away...?
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I believe Tucson BSD is like the Sonata's - beep super loud. Do you think you can tahan if every single time a car is near you, it beeps? Lagi worse if you know the car is there, and still use your judgement to change lanes, but kena disturbed by beep beep beep?
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Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy the forester tremendously. But who doesn't want more features.
I believe Tucson BSD is like the Sonata's - beep super loud. Do you think you can tahan if every single time a car is near you, it beeps? Lagi worse if you know the car is there, and still use your judgement to change lanes, but kena disturbed by beep beep beep?
Front camera collision avoidance and auto brake however apparently the EU countries are going to make it in all cars by 2022 or something... i think that can save lives.
Edited by Rachdanom, 03 June 2016 - 03:26 PM.
Outback has rear detection radar.. Tested it , sensitive for cars from 100m away...?
but cant detect human traffic ...
It also has blind side detection.. but only flashes warning, doesn't not give audible warnings
overall Outback is a good choice also...
The boot space is fantastic.
Features wise is better than the forester I think. If only they have 2.0 TC outback. That would be perfect. Lol
yeah.
found a nice lady. Jass Chan.
now trying to decide between forester and outback.
i find the turbo foresters have better drive but wifey likes the outback for the huge space and comfort. lol
just curious that the subbies don't come with navigation. almost all the other cars brands we test drove have this by default. i'm surprised.
Outback vs Forester.. same price, higher OMV.. smaller sunroof, higher back passenger drivetrain tunnel at the back.. no turbo.. slightly higher road tax.. better finishing, bigger boot.. better insulation.
U can only decide for yourself.. ask your wife test drive also
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Another update on xt fc. After 570km on mix traffic, I still have 1/4 tank left. The trip computer indicated another 140km to go before empty tank. So far the trip computer seems pretty accurate. Getting 11km/L is quite eat on this car unless u do like 70% or more city driving.
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Hahaha. Next car need to buy auto parking function.
Even the Koreans models like sorento has it now.
Maybe the next forester and outback would have in a few yrs time
That is fantastic mileage, you must be doing 90% highway. BTW what petrol are you using?
Starling is not bad. It connects to Siri for my iphone. It's good for hands free calling, playing a certain song in your music library, etc. But of course it is not a full integration like car play. Alternatively, Subaru's voice recognition is not bad too. Can use voice to tune radio, make calls, etc.
I can't get starlink to read my msg from iphone. Any bro manage to get this to work? It always say need to set up then ask me choose device then still cannot.
Regarding the lack of other passive safety features like blind spot monitoring, auto parking, etc. I feel I dun need them. I used to have blind spot monitoring and I find it quite irritating when then side mirror flashes whenever a car is at my sides. I end up looking at the sides for no reason.... I also dun need auto parking. I can park fairly well, parallel too. It's actually quite easy to parallel park forester. I did it with 1 go for first attempt. It's not a very wide car so I have no problems with mall carparks or any multi storey carparks.
Edited by mrhan1982, 03 June 2016 - 06:29 PM.
Only thing lacking in my forester xt I feel is the gps. So I head over to pcshow and got a morbella n53 5 inch gps for $129. Problem solved.
Starling is not bad. It connects to Siri for my iphone. It's good for hands free calling, playing a certain song in your music library, etc. But of course it is not a full integration like car play. Alternatively, Subaru's voice recognition is not bad too. Can use voice to tune radio, make calls, etc.
I can't get starlink to read my msg from iphone. Any bro manage to get this to work? It always say need to set up then ask me choose device then still cannot.
Regarding the lack of other passive safety features like blind spot monitoring, auto parking, etc. I feel I dun need them. I used to have blind spot monitoring and I find it quite irritating when then side mirror flashes whenever a car is at my sides. I end up looking at the sides for no reason.... I also dun need auto parking. I can park fairly well, parallel too. It's actually quite easy to parallel park forester. I did it with 1 go for first attempt. It's not a very wide car so I have no problems with mall carparks or any multi storey carparks.
To get the HU to read your messages, go to your iPhone Settings, then Bluetooth, then tap the "i" next to your car's Bluetooth profile, then turn on "Show Notifications". That's it.
Nearly every other brand including volve XC60, Renault kadjar or Q5 their cheaper version don't come with huge moon roof, actually none. If I was in a sedan it don't matter... But in a SUV the sunroof is a must for me. My initial choice was FNA instead of FXT so to me it was kinda my rational of buying forester.
Actually it is true, Subaru cars have less intelligent gadgets... When I tried Xtrail I was pretty impressed with the 360 parking view and self tilted mirror etc... But some folk like me dun really find a need for them... Maybe so...�
I don't even use the reverse camera screen for parking..
Purely using the 2 side mirror and the reverse sensor sound.
Complete requirement by getting a seperate standalone 7" GPS...
Outback vs Forester.. same price, higher OMV.. smaller sunroof, higher back passenger drivetrain tunnel at the back.. no turbo.. slightly higher road tax.. better finishing, bigger boot.. better insulation.
U can only decide for yourself.. ask your wife test drive also
Paiseh bro, it's 82069191.
Thank ,bro
Making a decision is like making choice of whether u like a comfortable and spacious wife
Or a little bit wild and carefree girlfriend
My fren test drive outback and fat with me.he noticed outback engine is louder . Though the interior finishing is better.
Making a decision is like making choice of whether u like a comfortable and spacious wife
Or a little bit wild and carefree girlfriend
Most importantly must take new one.
Don't go for test drive car let everyone zua before
Most like to zua during test drives.
But then again. Subaru engines are hardy
My fren test drive outback and fat with me.he noticed outback engine is louder . Though the interior finishing is better.
Making a decision is like making choice of whether u like a comfortable and spacious wife
Or a little bit wild and carefree girlfriendHow to know whether your car is a brand new car or test car/demo car/showroom car? Mileage? What is the mileage when you collect your ride? Any bro care to share? Thank you.
My mileage during car collection.Attached Thumbnails
It's a mixed of roughly 60% hw and 40% city. Using esso 8000. Going for 2nd tank tonight. Did 630 and fuel light came on with 100km left on trip computer.
Did you drive i mode all the way and keep rpm below 2000rpm?
I squeeze my se hard and collected 3 days after reg. On a Sunday some more.A lot of forester now. Initially collecting my fna today but end up postpone to next week. Think the technicians are too busy with so many cars to be delivered. Thats 2 weeks after car register!
Yep. Especially for Subaru cars.
Most like to zua during test drives.
But then again. Subaru engines are hardyit's not about engine hardy. it's about engine new and not being conditioned but zua already.
My fren test drive outback and fat with me.he noticed outback engine is louder . Though the interior finishing is better.
Making a decision is like making choice of whether u like a comfortable and spacious wife
Or a little bit wild and carefree girlfriend
Tip of the day: NEVER call your Wife SPACIOUS.
Lol
#HappyWifeHappyLife
Tip of the day: NEVER call your Wife SPACIOUS.
Lol
#HappyWifeHappyLife
it's not about engine hardy. it's about engine new and not being conditioned but zua already.
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Please advise how to join FB and whatsapp group, just get my forester too...
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I had ask the same question
Demo cars would be sold off cheaper
Which is why u see the display list at counter of demo cars will list engine/chassis number together with discount price
Oohh twin scroll more refined... Didn't noticed.. Was enjoying the panoramic driver viewHi Bro,
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You mean there is a demo car list at the counter ?
I will like to check this also.
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When I booked my XT last week, SE told me it was the last unit available. So I don't know if my car is the demo unit or not.
We can based on the mileage during car collection but no one can guarantee that the odometer was not tempered before.
Unless we can counter check against the demo car engine / chasis number.
Hi Bro,
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You mean there is a demo car list at the counter ?
I will like to check this also.
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When I booked my XT last week, SE told me it was the last unit available. So I don't know if my car is the demo unit or not.
We can based on the mileage during car collection but no one can guarantee that the odometer was not tempered before.
Unless we can counter check against the demo car engine / chasis number.
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I dun think any authorized agent will go that low to sell their car.
Hi all,
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Just took the plunge today. Can advise how to join FB and whatsapp group?
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Thanks.
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Yes there was a list of demo cars, discount range from $1000 to $3000 I think. But when new rules announced, those demos were sold out very fast...
There were chasis or engine number on the list.
Don't worry, AD won't do such tricks. But smaller PI may given they have limited stock.
Furthermore, if they pass off demo as new, a any defects found eg scratches it will give them more trouble.
And lastly, most of the demo cars were 2015 models... On ur purchase agreement its stated to be 2016 mfg carsHi Bro,
You mean there is a demo car list at the counter ?
I will like to check this also.
When I booked my XT last week, SE told me it was the last unit available. So I don't know if my car is the demo unit or not.
We can based on the mileage during car collection but no one can guarantee that the odometer was not tempered before.
Unless we can counter check against the demo car engine / chasis number.
Hi Bro,
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You mean there is a demo car list at the counter ?
I will like to check this also.
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When I booked my XT last week, SE told me it was the last unit available. So I don't know if my car is the demo unit or not.
We can based on the mileage during car collection but no one can guarantee that the odometer was not tempered before.
Unless we can counter check against the demo car engine / chasis number.
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Probably the SE means "Last Unit" in the existing stock... not demo unit. I don't think MI will pull this kind of stunt.. LOL
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Test Drive/Showroom units will come with around 3k discounts and they seem to sell out fast.�
Thats the reason why u buy from AD. Peace of mind.
I'm very confident most or all ADs won't sell a demo car as new. Thats lying and make them susceptible to legal issues. Plus their reputation.
Agree.
Thats the reason why u buy from AD. Peace of mind.
I'm very confident most or all ADs won't sell a demo car as new. Thats lying and make them susceptible to legal issues. Plus their reputation.
Demo car should be able to tell from mileage? AD will not go so low and adjust mileage?
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Show room car kana molest only should be acceptable if discount is significant.
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Demo car kana r*ped confirm not acceptable�
Demo car should be able to tell from mileage? AD will not go so low and adjust mileage?
Show room car kana molest only should be acceptable if discount is significant.
Demo car kana r*ped confirm not acceptable
If discount is good why not la.: Coe and ARF and still virgin wud
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For me anything less than 5k is considered not worth getting a r*ped car�
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Don't think AD offer so much..
same - I have no desire for sunroof. To me, it just adds weight on top (worsens CG) and more parts to fail/leak.
In fact I bought my current Subaru because it doesn't come with sunroof, unlike the MI units.
to cool the car down after parking in the sun, I just open the windows abt 2cm or so when starting to drive off.
Have u seen a leaky sunroof?
I noticed a few SE going through the car features very quickly with their customer, all done in less than 30 mins. Glad that my SE really took the time to slowly show me the various features of the car which is quite a lot. This is my third ride and he's the most detailed so far.
Edited by Swaku, 05 June 2016 - 11:27 AM.
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