A lot of news from Pool.... just only one news will excite me now...
the departure of BR...
http://www.thisisanf...s-role-in-saga/
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Vilifying the young forward is the easy option for those unwilling to ask the hard questions about what is really happening at LFC, writes Sean Duffy.
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The timing could scarcely have been worse for FSG. On the day that saw the brightest prospect at their Liverpool venture declare his intention to leave the club, the very concept upon which their ownership model has been based appears to have been blown out of the water.
Michel Platini�s declaration that�FFP regulations are to be eased�will have been met with much greater alarm in Boston than the news that�Raheem Sterling�has decided he no longer wants to play for the club.
First to Sterling. There has been no little blowback from the statement leaked yesterday by the player�s representatives, confirming what many feared � that he sees his future away from Liverpool. Fans and ex-players have been heavy on incredulity; sneering at the audacity of the little upstart, and of course the role being played by his sinister agent.
Certainly, Sterling�s actions in all of this have left a sour taste. His interview with the BBC last month served as an opening salvo in what appears to be a rather cynical ploy on the part of the player and his agent to engineer a move away from the club.
This latest move, coming just before the final game of the season, appears to be an even more brazen attempt to drive a wedge between the player, the manager and the supporters. Yet in the rush to castigate Sterling in this rather tasteless squabble, it appears that a number of glaringly obvious points are being overlooked.
The first is to remember that Sterling is a London-born kid of 20. Ostensibly, he has no emotional bond with the club. Of course, supporters expect that any player who dons the red shirt will be immediately infused with a love of the club, the ground and the fans. In many instances � and with many players down the years � this has indeed proven the case. Yet in Sterling�s case, this does not necessarily stand to reason.
Three years ago, when Sterling was holding out for a better contract, there was no shortage of Liverpool fans lining up to abuse him for his apparent greed. He should sign the new deal, put his head down, forget about the money and concentrate on his football. Who was he to hold the club to ransom? Sound familiar?
In the end, Sterling did sign that contract, albeit on terms of �35,000 a week, which effectively succeeded in merely kicking the can down the road. In this latest wrangle, fans and pundits alike have been quick to ask the question: what has he done in the game? Comparisons have been made with Scott Sinclair and Aaron Lennon. These types of reactions bear all the hallmarks of the jilted lover proclaiming �I never wanted her anyway.��(Ed note: Like Brendan�s claim he never wanted Depay then.)
In reality, Sterling and his representatives have long had a belief in what the player�s potential was, both from a playing and earnings perspective. The ugliness of this affair has masked some basic truths about the strategy being employed here by Liverpool.
Let�s assume for a moment that it is all about money. Other clubs around England and Europe can, and will, offer him more. If we take Sterling�s side of the argument; that he wants to play at the highest level � those same clubs can offer him that as well.
With regards to future recruitment, Sterling watched�Luis Suarez, depart for Barcelona last summer. Suarez went on to form the most devastating attack in a generation with Leo Messi and Neymar. Liverpool replaced him with Rickie Lambert and�Mario Balotelli.
So what is it exactly that Liverpool are offering him here? Less money, inferior standards of football, inferior teammates and a management and payment structure which seems completely incapable of devising a strategy that can attract and keep the best talent.
Much of the sneering with regards to his contribution to date has been coloured by the player�s performances in the past two months. That is an extremely short-sighted approach when appraising the worth of such a talented player.
Such was the ineptitude of the aforementioned signings that Sterling has spent much of the season trying to fill in at centre forward, being dry humped by centre halves twice his size, back to goal, 20 yards outside the opposition penalty area. With the team malfunctioning around him, it is hardly surprising that his performances dipped.
There are three questions that should be raised with respect to Sterling�s form. Has the player become a victim of the upheaval at the club this season? Has the player let his own standards drop intentionally in a bid to underline that disaffection? And is that disaffection indicative of a wider problem in the squad with regards to the role of�Brendan Rodgers�as manager?
The BBC�s Ben Smith reported on Monday that Sterling may have been minded to sign a new deal if there was the prospect of a change of manager at the club. While such a sentiment has understandably made the blood boil, it does raise the question about how a player who once seemed to be Rodgers� prot�g� of is now apparently intent on leaving the club because of the manager�s continued presence.
The disintegration of Liverpool�s season would suggest that all is not well atMelwood. Of course, Sterling himself is in no small part to blame for that. Yet it cannot be argued that the squad suffered from an alarming disintegration of morale at two separate times this campaign, periods which effectively encompassed two thirds of the season. Perhaps it is naive to merely castigate the player for being unhappy when there appears to be many other factors amiss with the administration of the club.
Liverpool�s absentee landlords have thus far been given a free ride from supporters, mainly on account of not being Tom Hicks or George Gillett. Their commitment to redevelop Anfield and to run the club on a frugal footing has been met with something approaching stoic approval from fans. However, the reality is that this model is never going to furnish Liverpool supporters with the glory they crave. Even before Platini�s shameless U-turn, FSG�s model was effectively about trying to build success on the cheap.
Yet the model they have employed at Liverpool is one which is based on extracting market value once inexpensive youth products have been developed. In the case of Sterling, that potential has already been identified and is being sought by the top clubs. John W Henry and Tom Werner can hardly expect to tug on non-existent heart strings, with misguided notions of what loyalty entails once a player has realised his market value, especially when they appear intent on running the club in a manner which insists upon rational market behaviour.
That Liverpool were not willing to pay the player what he could earn elsewhere is indicative of where the club�s ambition currently lies. Hoping the player would be content to remain on inferior terms to those being offered elsewhere smacks of blind negligence. Liverpool and FSG should have had Sterling tied down to a long term deal long ago. His imminent departure is the direct consequence of the constraints of their own approach, and an unwillingness to adequately assess the value of one of their own assets.
Liverpool are now faced with the reality of losing their brightest prospect since�Steven Gerrard�emerged into the first team 17 years ago. Sterling will almost certainly go on to be one of the finest players in Europe over the next decade. Whether that is under Rodgers, Manuel Pellegrini or anyone else is irrelevant. The player has the raw materials to be great.
Liverpool have known that for some time, yet the mechanisations at every level of the club appear to have led us to this juncture. The effrontery with which the player has conducted himself has understandably seen a united front of anger develop against the player. Yet in uniting against Sterling, many supporters are overlooking some crucial nuances in the debate.
This was a situation Liverpool should have had control over. They have lost control of it, and in so doing, appear to have further cemented the perception of the club as also-rans in the context of the elite.
This week�s announcement by UEFA that FFP regulations will be softened effectively leaves the whole premise behind the FSG model in ruins. It would be outrageous had there been a viable strategy for success in place to begin with.
hard truth.
fsg need to think hard n fast on their next course of actions. with reported growing unhappiness towards the manager, they must decide if rodgers is the man they wanna stick with. with the changes happening, they must re-strategise n re-look their business model. will pool improve or will the club become a mid table team?
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n abt the FFP u-turn, it's such a disgrace. UEFA really is jus trying to please the rich clubs.�
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In case anyone doesn't understand the meaning, here is a link
http://baike.baidu.c...91/13254805.htm
The reporters are being "asked" to release the same news as a "smoke screen" to what is going on behind the scene. Of course the prsss doesn't really know it's a smoke screen and the going ons and can only speculate so for now I think looking at the odds movement should be more accurate.
Edited by Bismarck, 21 May 2015 - 09:30 AM.
http://www.liverpool...g-term-lfc-deal
http://www.liverpool...erpool-contract
Klopp as next liverpool manager 2/1 now.
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In case anyone doesn't understand the meaning, here is a link
http://baike.baidu.c...91/13254805.htm
The reporters are being "asked" to release the same news as a "smoke screen" to what is going on behind the scene. Of course the prsss doesn't really know it's a smoke screen and the going ons and can only speculate so for now I think looking at the odds movement should be more accurate.
If u r right then we know why the best man performs so badly in the last 7 or 8 games... he probably knew that his days are numbered.
Hopefully flanno comes back as gd as b4. N fm there he will improve. Unlike enrique who came back half the player he was. N ibe has already said, his advisors r his parents, so unless the parents r snobs, he should b well advised.
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FSG is silly to offer 25K per wk to Ibe... that is lowballing your own employees....
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what were they thinking?
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Flanno only gets an extension....
So alot depends on whether he can get back in shape
If u r right then we know why the best man performs so badly in the last 7 or 8 games... he probably knew that his days are numbered.
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Then I really hope coming match will be his last game :))
Come on, make my dream come true :))
Klopp as next liverpool manager 2/1 now.
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Odds are a good way to confirm if the news is true. But 2/1 is still quite far off for now.
FSG is silly to offer 25K per wk to Ibe... that is lowballing your own employees....
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what were they thinking?
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Flanno only gets an extension....
So alot depends on whether he can get back in shape
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In a more rational world, this would be a good policy.
But unfortunately the football world is never rational.
This just increase the chance his head will be turned when his contract is nearing renewal the next time.
if u want to pay reasonable wages, yeah sure. But the player needs to feel that he's going to play a lot and improve by leaps and bounds, and develop under a good manager.
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Lol now, the manager is someone whom his most improved product of RS also don't want to stay...
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FSG is silly to offer 25K per wk to Ibe... that is lowballing your own employees....
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what were they thinking?
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Flanno only gets an extension....
So alot depends on whether he can get back in shape
for now, 25k is still acceptable. since he performances still not there yet. but if the upcoming season he performs well, i hope they quickly revise the terms n offer the pay accordingly. don wait till last 2yrs left then wanna act on it.
Will Origi be in Pool next season ?
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After watching him play, I think he and Ibe will make�good partners. Both are strong runner and Origi is a CF whilct Ibe a Winger.
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Odds are a good way to confirm if the news is true. But 2/1 is still quite far off for now.
Yes still far off. But the odds has shorten.
Currently a lot of news are coming out. Reporters get news and leaks from clubs, agents, tea ladies, "friends" of players etc etc releasing and recycle various sources sure can hit one piece of news correct. But if someone inside or related got wind of something going on, they will sure place some bets. When betting companies see an unusual amount of bets placed in short time, surely they will suspend the bets and we will see that as quite a good reference of what will happen soon.
Still have to wait and see what will happen next.
Will Origi be in Pool next season ?
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After watching him play, I think he and Ibe will make�good partners. Both are strong runner and Origi is a CF whilct Ibe a Winger.
Personally I don't mind any player as long as they are decent enough and most importantly the manager knows how to use them.
He is after all a Belgian international. Cannot be that bad right?
But then again we have an Italian international......
And also Croatian international.......
And Serbian international......
All first choice some more.......
Hmmm,.....
Thank god we still have the best man for the job
for now, 25k is still acceptable. since he performances still not there yet. but if the upcoming season he performs well, i hope they quickly revise the terms n offer the pay accordingly. don wait till last 2yrs left then wanna act on it.
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Lol based on what they did to RS, they won't lol.
Personally I don't mind any player as long as they are decent enough and most importantly the manager knows how to use them.
He is after all a Belgian international. Cannot be that bad right?
But then again we have an Italian international......
And also Croatian international.......
And Serbian international......
All first choice some more.......
Hmmm,.....
Thank god we still have the best man for the job
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Best man can't make use of Djimi Traore i think
That one too high level. Only RB can ...�
Suddenly remembered this guy who murdered real madrid at the bernebau. The one man midfield.
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http://en.wikipedia....Mohamed_Sissoko
Personally I don't mind any player as long as they are decent enough and most importantly the manager knows how to use them.
He is after all a Belgian international. Cannot be that bad right?
But then again we have an Italian international......
And also Croatian international.......
And Serbian international......
All first choice some more.......
Hmmm,.....
Thank god we still have the best man for the job
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Hmmmm........... BR should attach himself to Singapore for 1 month on how to churn out a good dish of 'Rojak' .....
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So many countries players and he can't blend them together ...
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Lol based on what they did to RS, they won't lol.
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Best man can't make use of Djimi Traore i think
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Suddenly remembered this guy who murdered real madrid at the bernebau. The one man midfield.
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http://en.wikipedia....Mohamed_Sissoko
Yah still remember him. Decent enough to play for us and juventus. If he is still at liverpool, he will be classified as not skilful enough, not good passer, cannot attack, cannot score, cannot play as wingback, totally useless and release on a free and transfer to some Danish or Swiss club lol
Yah still remember him. Decent enough to play for us and juventus. If he is still at liverpool, he will be classified as not skilful enough, not good passer, cannot attack, cannot score, cannot play as wingback, totally useless and release on a free and transfer to some Danish or Swiss club lol
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ya man. He's really a ZERO offensive threat player. Even his passing also quite cui at times.
No lah, release on a free, go to other BPL club, then score against us at anfield.� �
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Hmmmm........... BR should attach himself to Singapore for 1 month on how to churn out a good dish of 'Rojak' .....
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So many countries players and he can't blend them together ...
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Maybe he needs a blender to help him
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ya man. He's really a ZERO offensive threat player. Even his passing also quite cui at times.
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Haha but football is not all about just 11 skilful players, we need the likes of carragher or a batty or deschamps or a mascherano in the team. Too bad some manager cannot see it.
All I remember him for is getting into a fight or bad argument on the pitch with Alan shearer in a champions league match.
Personally I don't mind any player as long as they are decent enough and most importantly the manager knows how to use them.
He is after all a Belgian international. Cannot be that bad right?
But then again we have an Italian international......
And also Croatian international.......
And Serbian international......
All first choice some more.......
Hmmm,.....
Thank god we still have the best man for the job
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Only the best manager can bring the best out of the players :)
Oh well.... we don't have the best manager, even though he thinks he is himself
Wah batty is a thug man.
All I remember him for is getting into a fight or bad argument on the pitch with Alan shearer in a champions league match.
Players like Batty and vinnie jones are more like gangsters than footballers
Wah batty is a thug man.
All I remember him for is getting into a fight or bad argument on the pitch with Alan shearer in a champions league match.
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I tot was batty vs le saux
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I tot was batty vs le saux
I watch nbc for the BPL stream and le saux is one of the commentators.
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I tot was batty vs le saux
Right.. Fight in the middle of match.
We need that now. We play like pussies!
RB�will be out of the equation... once he signs as RM's manager...
Less one option in the market if the best man leaves .... or will he leave?
RB�will be out of the equation... once he signs as RM's manager...
Less one option in the market if the best man leaves .... or will he leave?
If I am rafa I will become rm manager. Keep on waiting for the job that never going to come, what for?
Kelantan 1: 3 Singapore
Well done Lions12.
SG50! Yay!!
Sooooooo quiet?
Ehhh .... EPL season over?
Sooooooo quiet?
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Liverpool already over since ... last year ...
Will only make happy noise when BR leaves :))
Ehhh .... EPL season over?
Sooooooo quiet?
Last game...all start tomorrow nite.
News flash: M'sia FA Cup
Kelantan 1: 3 Singapore
Watched the whole match just now, kelantan had a lot of chance but Lady Luck not with them. Thought when Khairul nizam injured and Amri overwork Singapore in danger Liao and true enough kelantan equalized. But sub striker suhaimi came in and scored a nice individual goal and penalty in injury time to win the match for Singapore. Well done Lions xii.
Watched the whole match just now, kelantan had a lot of chance but Lady Luck not with them. Thought when Khairul nizam injured and Amri overwork Singapore in danger Liao and true enough kelantan equalized. But sub striker suhaimi came in and scored a nice individual goal and penalty in injury time to win the match for Singapore. Well done Lions xii.
Our season long gone. Anyway I did watch the lion match. Yes well done fandi and team. Good fighting spirit from lion. I dont know their team but the tall Indian defender quite good. Cleared most of the danger throw at our lion. The mmidfield not so sure. Our striker kharuil something play well. Hold up play very well. The stadium almost empty during cup presenatation. Seem like playing close door match. So much for sportmantship.
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Our season long gone. Anyway I did watch the lion match. Yes well done fandi and team. Good fighting spirit from lion. I dont know their team but the tall Indian defender quite good. Cleared most of the danger throw at our lion. The mmidfield not so sure. Our striker kharuil something play well. Hold up play very well. The stadium almost empty during cup presenatation. Seem like playing close door match.
All the kelantan supporters dulan go home Liao
Anyway back to our Liverpool, we cannot continue like that. Things have to change. If FSG is naive to think they can buy potential young talents at undervalued price and hope the best man for the job can develop them and wait for Liverpool become great again better think twice now with sterling wanting to leave. Other clubs richer than us will take their pick once any of our young players start to fulfill their potential.
Good looking gals are very important
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to the success of a football club.
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Alexis Sanchez signed for Arsenal
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because the ladies in the night clubs
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in London are better looking�than in Liverpool.
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Now Arturo Vidal wants to sign for Arsenal
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cos his friend Alexis Sanchez is there.
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It's chicken and egg, guess the good looking ladies also like to watch attractive football
Everything's too boring at Anfield currently :)
Its our last game...
Stoke vs Liverpool...
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For goodness sake, pls win our last game to thank our supporters....
Pls lah ....
Looking at the lineup, . Tink the players will also b confused on wat their position will b.
Basically Lucas will be the defensive midfield, Allen and Henderson Central midfield, Coutinho and lallana attacking midfield, gerrard the non-existence midfield.
Edited by Bismarck, 24 May 2015 - 09:58 PM.
lol!! Thats a new role created by gerrard. Indeed a legend. rodgers should instead put ibe at rwb instead of henderson. Licas n gerrard defensive. Wif henderson, lallana n coutinho upfront.Basically Lucas will be the defensive midfield, Allen and Henderson Central midfield, Coutinho and lallana attacking midfield, gerrard the non-existence midfield.
Sterling must be laughing at BR and liverpool now.�
I tink can really sick n tired of playing at RB. Purposely give goals.
lol!! Thats a new role created by gerrard. Indeed a legend. rodgers should instead put ibe at rwb instead of henderson. Licas n gerrard defensive. Wif henderson, lallana n coutinho upfront.
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Seems like the best man for the job is doing this on purpose, trying to tell owners that there is no good strikers to put in starting lineup.
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Stoke doesnt look overrun in midfield at all.�
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Stoke's goals are really good.
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3-0 down liao�
good night lads, switched channels liao. Don't think I can stomach a BR team anymore.�
I bet with you guys, he will put in Lambert at 85th minute�
4- 0 what the
again playing with no out-out striker. KNN.�
What kind of manager is that?
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5-0 44 mins 15 sec
What a contrast to last year performance!
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How is he (BR) going to face the pool's supporters back home?!
he really needs to b fired right aft the game.
5-0
OH....MY ....GOD...
he really needs to b fired right aft the game.
1 half too late. Even against mighty ac milan, we only go 3-0 down at half time...
When it fail, repeat go back try again to fail again. f**k!
.....the best man for the job just lost 25,000,000 Liverpool�fans worldwide ���
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Suddenly I feel like watching second half to see the total humiliation�
If this match doesnt turn the supporters against the best man for the job, then I really Ting peh ling.�
Un Un Un Un Unbelieveable.
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Very bad first half...No leadership and no co-ordinations.
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Where is the spirit to fight back esp when we lost our last home game of the season and need to make amends to this last game of the season, even if it is an away game.
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surely they disappointed the fans badly!!!
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All half-hearted...
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No amount of past achievements count for anything if we continue such perfs. No one will want to join us...even prospective managers/coach.
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total LOSS of control in dressing room ?? SG leading a mutiny for the last game ?�
Un Un Un Un Unbelieveable.
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Very bad first half...No leadership and no co-ordinations.
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don't anyhow say hor, got best liverpool player/captain ever leh
maybe we are all wrong about sterling. watching the way BR coach the team every week, maybe a nightmare exp for someone so young�
yeah...mayb the last few mths really proved to sterling that rodgers is a bloody idiot n he wont develop under such a manager. N only he dares to do something abt it.maybe we are all wrong about sterling. watching the way BR coach the team every week, maybe a nightmare exp for someone so young�
Guys, dun worry, this game is planed by the players all along.
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They want a new Manager next Season - bring in Rafa plssss wahahahaha
No words to say...... It's a debacle, total humiliation....!!!
Stoke looks like they have the most fluid potent attacking force in the football world now.
based on last 2 matches, we should buy Diouf, Bolaise and Charlie Adam�
I really run out of words to say liao. And I am tired of criticising and making fun of the best man for the job and this whole thing. I think no matter how all of us try to make a joke out of this disastrous result, in the end the hurt will still come back to us. I really hope something can change. Someone here please start a new thread as soon as the season ends and get this thread locked and either delete or hide somewhere. Really sick of it and feels like no end to it.�
based on last 2 matches, we should buy Diouf, Bolaise and Charlie Adam�
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We "bought" Adam... Sigh..... Everyone looks like World Class/Top Notch player when playing against us!
He would surely regret it now
I would be surprise if after this humiliating result fsg will still be employing the best man for the job
Ibe n kolo in. Who got subbed out? Shouldnt it b gerrard?
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Ibe for Moreno and Kolo for Can. Please lor, unker will be subbed 88th minute for max effect�
Lets hope the players are just trying get BR sacked...
I really run out of words to say liao. And I am tired of criticising and making fun of the best man for the job and this whole thing. I think no matter how all of us try to make a joke out of this disastrous result, in the end the hurt will still come back to us. I really hope something can change. Someone here please start a new thread as soon as the season ends and get this thread locked and either delete or hide somewhere. Really sick of it and feels like no end to it.�
I agree. When the final whistle blows please start a new thread and let's not get too negative in the new thread. Leave all bad things behind.
Edited by Extinguisher, 24 May 2015 - 11:24 PM.
Consolation. Gerrard paid stokes defenders to give him a farewell gift.
Yah top scorer for the team haha. Maybe sterling benched also to make sure of this.
Such a sorry state.
Good night everyone. We need it.�
Hope to see gd news tomrw. Gd nite for today.
Yes.... Totally agreed.... I hope tat tmr headline will b Rogers sack!!!!
Not sure if anyone posted this.
Slashed price on Sterling and Balo merchandise
"If the owners want me to go, I go, it's as simple as that. But I feel I've still got a lot to offer here. There's a lot that's happened here this year to make the job difficult." - Brendan Rodgers
http://www.telegraph...eport-card.html
Maybe a rodgers out thread first
Anyone still supporting BR?
On what grounds can we still support BR?
I have never seen our Pool lost 6-1 to such a team called Stoke?
If this isn't called humiliation, I don't know what to say?
FSG, can you see what happen? Time to say bye bye to BR...
Pls, I don't want to see us regelated next season!
Someone pls help start new thread. And no hope in title pls.
Maybe a rodgers out thread first
Ok, I will start a new thread ...
Pls support me, and don't support BR
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