mycarforum: Honda Vezel part 84

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Vezel is too common. More like Comfort Cab now as they can be easily spotted everywher anytime, why spend thousand K on something that look nothing special. 1.5L no power to accelerate, look big outside but intetrior space is like Jazz. Dissapointing Haiz

Haha, you are right, vezel is just a b&b car, who cares if it is common or not.
Only $111k, use for 10 yrs , bum around, who cares about power to accelerate etc...
I have my 911 for that.

The interior is fabulously big though.

Mass market car , how special you want? Muayhahhahaha

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Vezel is too common. More like Comfort Cab now as they can be easily spotted everywher anytime, why spend thousand K on something that look nothing special. 1.5L no power to accelerate, look big outside but intetrior space is like Jazz. Dissapointing Haiz

Let me be very frank here.....such a write up is totally unconstructive and is tendamount to "noise" from an empty can. Everyone has their right to comment either positive or negative but what sets "noise" apart from value is to counter negativity with recommendations or constructive inputs.

I am prepared for brickbats ;)

Haha, you are right, vezel is just a b&b car, who cares if it is common or not.
Only $111k, use for 10 yrs , bum around, who cares about power to accelerate etc...
I have my 911 for that.

The interior is fabulously big though.

Mass market car , how special you want? Muayhahhahaha

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Yeah, value for money definitely.

Let me be very frank here.....such a write up is totally unconstructive and is tendamount to "noise" from an empty can. Everyone has their right to comment either positive or negative but what sets "noise" apart from value is to counter negativity with recommendations or constructive inputs.

I am prepared for brickbats ;)

Just my opinion, not here to impress Vezel owner. So be it :)
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Yeah, value for money definitely.

Just my opinion, not here to impress Vezel owner. So be it :)
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I don't own a Vezel, but I am impressed by Vezel! [laugh]

In the end I chose not to settle for a Vezel, but here are some of my thoughts.

Too common for my taste now, I will say that outright.
The performance sounds like a letdown.
I dislike the front end.
I like the rear end and profile however.
Have had a few conflicting stories about its comfort level. No comment, have not driven or sat in one.
Interior design is not a place I cannot stand, but it is too "conflicted" in my opinion. Clashing shapes and lack of coherence.
Based on Jazz, it is actually quite impressively practical and spacious, but not as dramatically so as the donor of the platform.
Price (at least up to now) is quite good.
Technology-wise it doesn't really have much to brag about though.
Being made by Honda in Japan, it definitely sounds like a reliably well-put together option.

If I must be honest, Vezel is not the kind of car I want. But it is arguably the "safest choice". I wouldn't go for it much myself, but it is easily one of the most practical choices I can think of. Economical, well-priced, family-sized, reliable (?), easy to service (almost any workshop will handle a Vezel now, I should think.).

People who are victimized by those unscrupulous, unethical and perpetually telling lies car PIs/dealers should make report to CASE or authority to stamp them out and bring justice to the consumers. By doing so we can then prevent innocent buyers from the long, tormented process which ended up with no cars or financially loss or both.

In the end I chose not to settle for a Vezel, but here are some of my thoughts.

Too common for my taste now, I will say that outright.

The performance sounds like a letdown.

I dislike the front end.

I like the rear end and profile however.

Have had a few conflicting stories about its comfort level. No comment, have not driven or sat in one.

Interior design is not a place I cannot stand, but it is too "conflicted" in my opinion. Clashing shapes and lack of coherence.

Based on Jazz, it is actually quite impressively practical and spacious, but not as dramatically so as the donor of the platform.

Price (at least up to now) is quite good.

Technology-wise it doesn't really have much to brag about though.

Being made by Honda in Japan, it definitely sounds like a reliably well-put together option.

If I must be honest, Vezel is not the kind of car I want. But it is arguably the "safest choice". I wouldn't go for it much myself, but it is easily one of the most practical choices I can think of. Economical, well-priced, family-sized, reliable (?), easy to service (almost any workshop will handle a Vezel now, I should think.).

Do you mind to tell us which car you chose?�

Each one will have their own likes and dislikes.

Qashqai was also one of my considerations as i posted much earlier.
After a few weeks of looking around, i made the decision.
A similar one to many folks here and to car reviewers worldwide.

For Qashqai, other than an arguably more upmarket exterior design and the fact that it is from AD, it lost out in almost every other department including performance.

The Vezel interior is imo the best for the comparative price of the car.

Does this mean there is no better car in its category?
Of course not! But for a dollar to dollar comparison, the Vezel is the best in SG.
Exactly what i need for replacing a thrash around B&B car.

Mine is black on brown full leather (not half leather)
well technically, it will belong to my ex gf, not me.
I am just in charge of signing checks.
Muayhahaha

Today I just booked the HRV for my ex gf too

I prefer to buy from AD, although it MIT

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Currently, KM has no stock have to wait till dec

Today I just booked the HRV for my ex gf too

I prefer to buy from AD, although it MIT

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Currently, KM has no stock have to wait till dec

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Congrats

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Got any additional freebies other than the standard ones like Rike Cool film & 3 yrs free servicing?

Was driving a Subaru WRX (Auto) before the Vezel..

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Mostly city driving....can be 6 to 7kml..... If 100 percent highway, best was 8.75kml....My friend same car can do better but maybe its the way i drive. hehe

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Just returned from subaru TPY.

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The Forester priced at $120k Gtd COE quite tempting ...& can also try to ask for 5 years / 100k free servicing . Only thing bad is FC cos 4WD

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heard that the qashqai quieter ride and less crashy ride than the Vezel though.

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Each one will have their own likes and dislikes.

Qashqai was also one of my considerations as i posted much earlier.
After a few weeks of looking around, i made the decision.
A similar one to many folks here and to car reviewers worldwide.

For Qashqai, other than an arguably more upmarket exterior design and the fact that it is from AD, it lost out in almost every other department including performance.

The Vezel interior is imo the best for the comparative price of the car.

Does this mean there is no better car in its category?
Of course not! But for a dollar to dollar comparison, the Vezel is the best in SG.
Exactly what i need for replacing a thrash around B&B car.

Mine is black on brown full leather (not half leather)
well technically, it will belong to my ex gf, not me.
I am just in charge of signing checks.
Muayhahaha

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Was driving a Subaru WRX (Auto) before the Vezel..

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Mostly city driving....can be 6 to 7kml..... If 100 percent highway, best was 8.75kml....My friend same car can do better but maybe its the way i drive. hehe

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Subaru famous for low FC trade off for performance

Maybe suitable for those with low mileage like my wife just use to pick up children & weekend use.

But $120K really tempting price for a SUV, looks really good to me quite huge car

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Edited by wookie_fan, 25 September 2015 - 11:15 PM.

Qashqai is generally said to be the more comfortable car with the stronger engine here (1.2 turbo), but the Vezel is said to have a more communicative steering wheel.

Do you mind to tell us which car you chose?�

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mine is in a different sort of category altogether. :mellow:

The Vezel is a very interesting car. Outside the dimension is smaller than say an Altis or a k3. But the space inside is enormous.

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When I drive I feel a little scare at times when I need to squeeze as I cant see over the side doors as much as a regular sedan.

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Colleague saw my rear leg room and were shocked, Yesterday reset my odometer and make my 20km plus trip in clear traffic from airport to AMK.... woohoo...on board average shows 23kml when I completed my journey.

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In 30 percent highway, 70 percent city driving though, it will drop to about 14kml to 15kml.

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BTW, I heard its only 126k for Forester 2.0 XT. Cheap for�a turbo real SUV!

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Subaru famous for low FC trade off for performance

Maybe suitable for those with low mileage like my wife just use to pick up children & weekend use.

But $120K really tempting price for a SUV, looks really good to me quite huge car

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Edited by Melvincyc, 25 September 2015 - 11:20 PM.

The Vezel is a very interesting car. Outside the dimension is smaller than say an Altis or a k3. But the space inside is enormous.

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When I drive I feel a little scare at times when I need to squeeze as I cant see over the side doors as much as a regular sedan.

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Colleague saw my rear leg room and were shocked, Yesterday reset my odometer and make my 20km plus trip in clear traffic from airport to AMK.... woohoo...on board average shows 23kml when I completed my journey.

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In 30 percent highway, 70 percent city driving though, it will drop to about 14kml to 15kml.

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BTW, I heard its only 126k for Forester 2.0 XT. Cheap for�a turbo real SUV!

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I can feel your happiness with your Vezel...envy.....but u know abt my situation stuck with AD so i cant do nuts now.

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Have been looking at Vezel but the price $110k seem to be high despite falling COE thats why i looking at Forester now.

Too bad Forester cannot switch from 4WD to 2WD option otherwise it will be really competitive

Edited by wookie_fan, 25 September 2015 - 11:37 PM.

I can feel your happiness with your Vezel...envy.....but u know abt my situation stuck with AD so i cant do nuts now.
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Have been looking at Vezel but the price $110k seem to be high despite falling COE thats why i looking at Forester now.
Too bad Forester cannot switch from 4WD to 2WD option otherwise it will be really competitive

Price a bit high considering COE has fallen indeed. They blame it on exchange rate not sure how true.

My friend tested the forester XT. Told me it's bumpy....I find strange since its on 4 wheel independent suspension. U got test drive yet?

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heard that the qashqai quieter ride and less crashy ride than the Vezel though.
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Thats ok lah, its not going to be noisier nor less comfortable than my car.
My car is loud inside the cabin, feels every bit of the road and has stiff suspension it hurts my old bones.
Moreover, i gotta be copareful when i reverse park, in cas ethe curb hits my undercarraige.
So cant complain.

If i wanted quiet and comfort and smoothness, i would be buying another Mercedes.
I wanted low price yet best in class. And in that category nothing beats the Vezel for now

Price a bit high considering COE has fallen indeed. They blame it on exchange rate not sure how true.

My friend tested the forester XT. Told me it's bumpy....I find strange since its on 4 wheel independent suspension. U got test drive yet?

Yup, i tested it on Sat but drove quite slowly so cant feel any bumpiness cause i have never drove such a huge car before

All i can say is the car was huge & very quiet. Simple interior but acceptable for the price

Still aiming the Vezel for my own running around because i work outdoors with high mileage

Edited by wookie_fan, 25 September 2015 - 11:49 PM.

Hi there all Vezel owners & would be Vezel owners

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We have been comparing PIs & prices in this thread.�

Should we also take note of the workshops offered when we choose the PI?

I have no experience in buying from PI but I had pleasant experience from AD servicing as my car lasted me a solid nine yrs without problems.

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Also I really quite scared of workshops chut pattern when it comes to warranty claim because PI only pay them $1500 for warranty I heard

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Pls advise

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Edited by wookie_fan, 26 September 2015 - 01:52 AM.

Hi all.. Gonna make a decision soon.. Anyone can share, Altis vs vezel. Pros and cons?

Which choice?

Please advise.. Thanks

If this helps, I created a thread on an ad by Borneo Motors in the General Discussion section.

There's an offer on Altis.

Go read:)

Edited by X5actor, 26 September 2015 - 10:16 AM.

Booked mine yesterday.... May not be the cheapest but still the cheapest from the PIs I visited yesterday.... Offer the highest for my car and the guy gave me all the accessories I requested... PM me if anyone is interested....

If this helps, I created a thread on an ad by Borneo Motors in the General Discussion section.

There's an offer on Altis.

Go read:)

Subaru forester 2.0 na now at $115.9k
Very tempting offer for a pure suv, not a crossover.

Subaru forester 2.0 na now at $115.9k
Very tempting offer for a pure suv, not a crossover.

Sounds not bad
Can full cash settle?
Or must take loan?

Sounds not bad
Can full cash settle?
Or must take loan?

Must take loan
Full cash i think need to top up.

Sounds not bad
Can full cash settle?
Or must take loan?

Must take loan min $30K only

No loan penalty $2500�

Subaru forester 2.0 na now at $115.9k
Very tempting offer for a pure suv, not a crossover.

Bro the lastest px list dtd 23 Sep is $121 smth

Are u sure the px is $115.9 now anot?

If really true i go buy now leh

Hi all.. Gonna make a decision soon.. Anyone can share, Altis vs vezel. Pros and cons?

Which choice?

Please advise.. Thanks

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Altis - small Thailand car with matured design but backed by AD warranty

Vezel - the other way round

Congrats

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Got any additional freebies other than the standard ones like Rike Cool film & 3 yrs free servicing?

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�thanks bro,

�I forget to ask for freebies :a-bang:

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�was busy bargaining to up the price�of�the�trade in car,�until�SE�agrees to cut his commission�and added $1K to my old car��

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�thanks bro,

�I forget to ask for freebies

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�was busy bargaining to up the price�of�the�trade in car,�until�SE�agrees to cut his commission�and added $1K to my old car��

Agree, i'll rather go for pricing rather than freebies.

You need good negotiation skills to deal with SE.

Great work!

PI just called me tuesday can collect my vezel liao!

Each one will have their own likes and dislikes.

Qashqai was also one of my considerations as i posted much earlier.
After a few weeks of looking around, i made the decision.
A similar one to many folks here and to car reviewers worldwide.

For Qashqai, other than an arguably more upmarket exterior design and the fact that it is from AD, it lost out in almost every other department including performance.

The Vezel interior is imo the best for the comparative price of the car.

Does this mean there is no better car in its category?
Of course not! But for a dollar to dollar comparison, the Vezel is the best in SG.
Exactly what i need for replacing a thrash around B&B car.

Mine is black on brown full leather (not half leather)
well technically, it will belong to my ex gf, not me.
I am just in charge of signing checks.
Muayhahaha

Bro, can share with us & post your brown full leather ?

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I planning to change to brown colour for my white ride.

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Thanks

Must take loan min $30K only
No loan penalty $2500�

Bro the lastest px list dtd 23 Sep is $121 smth
Are u sure the px is $115.9 now anot?
If really true i go buy now leh

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Altis - small Thailand car with matured design but backed by AD warranty
Vezel - the other way round

Yes bro
U might want to call motor image to confirm

Interested in the vezel and checked out a few PIs recently, one of them told me there is no need to install solar film as the windows are already tinted with UV protection from Japan. Installing additional solar film may fail LTA inspection. Really?

Yes bro
U might want to call motor image to confirm

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Booked mine yesterday.... May not be the cheapest but still the cheapest from the PIs I visited yesterday.... Offer the highest for my car and the guy gave me all the accessories I requested... PM me if anyone is interested....

how much u booked it for?? and hw many bids coe?

PI just called me tuesday can collect my vezel liao!

hahha... congrats! when did u ordered ur vezel?? took hw long then can collect?

Must take loan
Full cash i think need to top up.

u took loan or?? hw much u bought for vezel??

Went down to ubi today been to a few PI, all same price 111.8k guarantee COE but have to wait almost 5 months then can get car

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I see another submariner fan. Great choice btw

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hahha... congrats! when did u ordered ur vezel?? took hw long then can collect?

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3 weeks after ordering. My PI has ready stock�

Today I just booked the HRV for my ex gf too

I prefer to buy from AD, although it MIT

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Currently, KM has no stock have to wait till dec

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Btw, apart from MIT vs MIJ. I hope you know the spec and performance between HRV & Vezel is different?

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I'm asking because my cousin's classmate is in KM and he mentioned that 9 out of 10 HRV buyers thought the spec and technology is the same between HRV & Vezel, many do not know it's actually DOHC(Vezel) vs SOHC(HRV).

Interested in the vezel and checked out a few PIs recently, one of them told me there is no need to install solar film as the windows are already tinted with UV protection from Japan. Installing additional solar film may fail LTA inspection. Really?

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Depend on the film. Possible to use those kinds of film that have very VLT reduction with UV rejection. As long as VLT meets standards required, film on tinted glass is acceptable.

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Btw, apart from MIT vs MIJ. I hope you know the spec and performance between HRV & Vezel is different?
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I'm asking because my cousin's classmate is in KM and he mentioned that 9 out of 10 HRV buyers thought the spec and technology is the same between HRV & Vezel, many do not know it's actually DOHC(Vezel) vs SOHC(HRV).

Does the Vezel non hybrid share the same CVT gearbox as the HRV? I know that the Vezel's engine is DOHC Earthdream L15B engine but no info on the CVT gearbox. Kah motors has stated the HRV gearbox as EarthDream CVT.

I am not a fan of CVT but the Vezel's CVT gearbox felt more responsive then any other CVT gearbox that i have tried.

Does the Vezel non hybrid share the same CVT gearbox as the HRV? I know that the Vezel's engine is DOHC Earthdream L15B engine but no info on the CVT gearbox. Kah motors has stated the HRV gearbox as EarthDream CVT.

I am not a fan of CVT but the Vezel's CVT gearbox felt more responsive then any other CVT gearbox that i have tried.

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Hybrid uses a seven-speed dual-clutch transmission imaginatively named the 7DCT, which is quite obviously not the same as the CVT transmission utilized by the HR-V or gasoline Vezel.

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EarthDreams doesn't seem to be particularly used much by the Japanese marketing side, but I would expect the HR-V and Vezel CVT to be very similar.

if purely based on "technology" comparison

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SOHC - is more suitable for city start-stop driving (better low-end power)

DOHC - is more suitable for long haul driving (better high-end power)

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can google for more info about SOHC vs DOHC

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however, if purely based on "mindset" comparison ...

everyone wants DOHC because "dual" is definitely better than "single" in whatever ways

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I'm asking because my cousin's classmate is in KM and he mentioned that 9 out of 10 HRV buyers thought the spec and technology is the same between HRV & Vezel, many do not know it's actually DOHC(Vezel) vs SOHC(HRV).

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Edited by Wt_know, 27 September 2015 - 07:44 AM.

Went down to ubi today been to a few PI, all same price 111.8k guarantee COE but have to wait almost 5 months then can get car

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To get shorten the waiting time, you have to pay premium for it or you can go for the "S" Version, Hybrid version which got lesser buyers.

if purely based on "technology" comparison
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SOHC - is more suitable for city start-stop driving (better low-end power)
DOHC - is more suitable for long haul driving (better high-end power)
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can google for more info about SOHC vs DOHC
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however, if purely based on "mindset" comparison ...
everyone wants DOHC because "dual" is definitely better than "single" in whatever ways
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So, for city driving in SG.... SOHC seems to be more suitable...am I correct?
Unless for those that always go choinging in Malaysia frequently.

actually, my 1st question is are you comfortable with PI and can you deal with PI?

if no ... please get a HRV from AD and save the headeache

if yes, then can consider Vezel

power-wise is subjective ... and ... Vezel/HRV is not a powerful car to begin with ...

value-for-money and after-sales-support is more critical

whether is SOHC or DOHC, the car will move from point A to B safely

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So, for city driving in SG.... SOHC seems to be more suitable...am I correct?
Unless for those that always go choinging in Malaysia frequently.

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Edited by Wt_know, 27 September 2015 - 09:20 AM.

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Btw, apart from MIT vs MIJ. I hope you know the spec and performance between HRV & Vezel is different?

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I'm asking because my cousin's classmate is in KM and he mentioned that 9 out of 10 HRV buyers thought the spec and technology is the same between HRV & Vezel, many do not know it's actually DOHC(Vezel) vs SOHC(HRV).

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� :TT_TT: � I am one of the 9 HRV buyer that do not know the difference

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�I have been with KM�for the past 6 yrs,

�I enjoy the fuss free�R&M with�KM

�my 2 Honda rides never have any issues,

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�seriously I "never" check my oil level, battery ... just trust KM

�btw, I not working in KM.

Interested in the vezel and checked out a few PIs recently, one of them told me there is no need to install solar film as the windows are already tinted with UV protection from Japan. Installing additional solar film may fail LTA inspection. Really?

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I added the solar firm... if u park in open carpark it is better to have it...

actually, my 1st question is are you comfortable with PI and can you deal with PI?
if no ... please get a HRV from AD and save the headeache
if yes, then can consider Vezel
power-wise is subjective ... and ... Vezel/HRV is not a powerful car to begin with ...
value-for-money and after-sales-support is more critical
whether is SOHC or DOHC, the car will move from point A to B safely
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Ok. Got it!

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To get shorten the waiting time, you have to pay premium for it or you can go for the "S" Version, Hybrid version which got lesser buyers.

Pocket not deep enough, still got time for me. Just want to change ride since mine is getting old and have some value

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�I have been with KM�for the past 6 yrs,

�I enjoy the fuss free�R&M with�KM

�my 2 Honda rides never have any issues,

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�seriously I "never" check my oil level, battery ... just trust KM

�btw, I not working in KM.

Agree, im the same type of person like u - �Hassle free style

Really no time to check anything, just leave it to AD to sort it out.

Specs wise, I cant feel the difference but HRV a little over priced thats all

Bottom line is individual preference, some ppl go to AD for convenience

Edited by wookie_fan, 27 September 2015 - 02:25 PM.

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�btw, I not working in KM.

I also have this kind of mentally, religiously service my car ONLY with AD. But my AD screwed up once for me and i went to outside workshop. Outside workshop maybe small compare to AD but are just as good or better. At least i wont get apprentice handling my car and screwing up. AD everything is follow the manual but the skills of the mechanics are just as important.

I'm a Honda owner myself n have a Civic from Kah.

Like most buyers who buy from AD, i'm willing to pay abit more for better support n peace of mind getting from AD. That said this Vezel has got me thinking twice.

Normally it's the same car n u pay say $10k+ more for a Jap 1.6l car but for this Vezel v HRV, u not only pay the usual price diff but U get an inferior product on top of that. Not only DOHC but other significant differences makes it hard to stomach the extra cash forked out. For once, I will consider PI shld I intend to get this car. For a careful person like me this says a lot so hopefully Kah will take notice that a loyal customer like me is thinking of changing loyalties!

Went down to ubi today been to a few PI, all same price 111.8k guarantee COE but have to wait almost 5 months then can get car

Now KM selling HRV for 119K with lots of freebies like 3 yrs servicing, better interest rates etc

On the other hand PI wanna up price for Vezel at 112K

Pricing getting closer now

I'm a Honda owner myself n have a Civic from Kah.

Like most buyers who buy from AD, i'm willing to pay abit more for better support n peace of mind getting from AD. That said this Vezel has got me thinking twice.

Normally it's the same car n u pay say $10k+ more for a Jap 1.6l car but for this Vezel v HRV, u not only pay the usual price diff but U get an inferior product on top of that. Not only DOHC but other significant differences makes it hard to stomach the extra cash forked out. For once, I will consider PI shld I intend to get this car. For a careful person like me this says a lot so hopefully Kah will take notice that a loyal customer like me is thinking of changing loyalties!

For those who havent buy yet, the difference is less than 10K now

Edited by wookie_fan, 27 September 2015 - 03:23 PM.

Now KM selling HRV for 119K with lots of freebies like 3 yrs servicing, better interest rates etc
On the other hand PI wanna up price for Vezel at 112K
Pricing getting closer now

For those who havent buy yet, the difference is less than 10K now

Not forgetting those accessories item like HU, solar file which I believe it need a top up also.
But then, you have a choice to select what you want as compare to AD which is fixed.
But all in all, it still cheaper with difference level of peace of mind buying from PI.

Edited by Credor, 27 September 2015 - 03:27 PM.

Now KM selling HRV for 119K with lots of freebies like 3 yrs servicing, better interest rates etc

On the other hand PI wanna up price for Vezel at 112K

Pricing getting closer now

For those who havent buy yet, the difference is less than 10K now

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Shit, just 2 days, the price drop $2K :TT_TT:

warranty is 5 yr.

for better interest rate of�1.88%�need $40K min loan

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$40K loan is�too much, so I forgo getting another lorlex and use the $ for HRV :TT_TT:

I also have this kind of mentally, religiously service my car ONLY with AD. But my AD screwed up once for me and i went to outside workshop. Outside workshop maybe small compare to AD but are just as good or better. At least i wont get apprentice handling my car and screwing up. AD everything is follow the manual but the skills of the mechanics are just as important.

It all depends on your luck, AD or outside workshop.

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My humble opinion

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Good-mechanics familiar with the car as they always service the same car day in & out,

Bad-Service Advisor will tend try to sell parts unnecessarily for commision.

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Outside workshop

Good-Slightly cheaper

Bad-May not be able to diagnose when there is a problem, then become very troublesome

They can also chop you with inferior parts if u you dunno anything abt cars

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Shit, just 2 days, the price drop $2K

warranty is 5 yr.

for better interest rate of�1.88%�need $40K min loan

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$40K loan is�too much, so I forgo getting another lorlex and use the $ for HRV

Aiyah

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We dun win everyday, what abt those who paid $125K earlier on? If you gotta change car then bobian one.

COE seem to be quite stable now...may drop a little in 2016 due to economic outlook.�

Edited by wookie_fan, 27 September 2015 - 03:36 PM.

Now KM selling HRV for 119K with lots of freebies like 3 yrs servicing, better interest rates etc
On the other hand PI wanna up price for Vezel at 112K
Pricing getting closer now

For those who havent buy yet, the difference is less than 10K now

If the difference is smaller more will swing to ad

Not forgetting those accessories item like HU, solar file which I believe it need a top up also.
But then, you have a choice to select what you want as compare to AD which is fixed.
But all in all, it still cheaper with difference level of peace of mind buying from PI.

The freebies not really fixed, depends on SE �wheter AD or PI

Of course I agree Vezel is slightly cheaper & better than HRV.

But It all depends on the buyer prefer AD or PI warranty & after sales service only.

Now that the price difference not too big, some will swing to AD.

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Edited by wookie_fan, 27 September 2015 - 03:54 PM.

Current HRV PREMIUM is $122,999
Comes with 1 year road tax as compared to PI's normally 6 months?
Interest rate at 1.88 compared to 2.28? For 5 year loan of about $73,000, Kah motor loan saves u $1,460 over 5 years.

Current Vezel price is $110,000?
Then with the above perks, HRV is still about 11k higher.

Unless Kah motor can provide even more perks, it seems Vezel still is the way to go.
I am a noob in dealing with PI. not sure if I should go for Vezel.
How about old car trade in? If Kah motor can fetch in more than PI, then it gets even closer.
I currently drive a 8 year old jazz and Kah motor taking in at 24k. Not sure how much the PI can take.
Anyone can advise?

Current HRV PREMIUM is $122,999
Comes with 1 year road tax as compared to PI's normally 6 months?
Interest rate at 1.88 compared to 2.28? For 5 year loan of about $73,000, Kah motor loan saves u $1,460 over 5 years.

Current Vezel price is $110,000?
Then with the above perks, HRV is still about 11k higher.

Unless Kah motor can provide even more perks, it seems Vezel still is the way to go.
I am a noob in dealing with PI. not sure if I should go for Vezel.
How about old car trade in? If Kah motor can fetch in more than PI, then it gets even closer.
I currently drive a 8 year old jazz and Kah motor taking in at 24k. Not sure how much the PI can take.
Anyone can advise?

I think $122 is old price. Read ot somewhere hrv is at $119 but i cant be certian.
Yoou can ask them how much is the trade in. A couple of months they offerd $5k overtrade with 1.88% discount.
If this still holds then at $114k it is definitely better to take from kah motor.
Actually for a small engine and bhp, you probabaly can't feel the difference betweem vezel and hrv in day to day driving.

Edited by Jostar888, 27 September 2015 - 04:32 PM.

I think $122 is old price. Read ot somewhere hrv is at $119 but i cant be certian.
Yoou can ask them how much is the trade in. A couple of months they offerd $5k overtrade with 1.88% discount.
If this still holds then at $114k it is definitely better to take from kah motor.
Actually for a small engine and bhp, you probabaly can't feel the difference betweem vezel and hrv in day to day driving.

$122,999 is the new price. In fact it is $128,999
It's inclusive of $5k over trade discount and $1k Honda to Honda trade in.
Both these 2 discounts, PI won't have. But still it is 11k difference.
I am willing to take the small engine and bhp for better servicing, warranty, no frills deal. But 11k is too much i guess. Haiz. Dilemma.

Bro, can share with us & post your brown full leather ?
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I planning to change to brown colour for my white ride.
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Thanks

Ok, when i get the car, nov/dec

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Shit, just 2 days, the price drop $2K
warranty is 5 yr.
for better interest rate of�1.88%�need $40K min loan
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$40K loan is�too much, so I forgo getting another lorlex and use the $ for HRV

$2k is like 10 good lunches, just eat roti john for 10days and you would have saved it back already, no worries lah.....

I think $122 is old price. Read ot somewhere hrv is at $119 but i cant be certian.
Yoou can ask them how much is the trade in. A couple of months they offerd $5k overtrade with 1.88% discount.
If this still holds then at $114k it is definitely better to take from kah motor.
Actually for a small engine and bhp, you probabaly can't feel the difference betweem vezel and hrv in day to day driving.

I forgot to mention OMV!

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Vezel price include CEVS rebate, which means the OMV for Vezel will be lower than HRV?

So the price difference is even closer if OMV is factored in

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Anyone knows whats the OMV for these 2 models?

Edited by wookie_fan, 27 September 2015 - 05:32 PM.

Current HRV PREMIUM is $122,999
Comes with 1 year road tax as compared to PI's normally 6 months?
Interest rate at 1.88 compared to 2.28? For 5 year loan of about $73,000, Kah motor loan saves u $1,460 over 5 years.

Current Vezel price is $110,000?
Then with the above perks, HRV is still about 11k higher.

Unless Kah motor can provide even more perks, it seems Vezel still is the way to go.
I am a noob in dealing with PI. not sure if I should go for Vezel.
How about old car trade in? If Kah motor can fetch in more than PI, then it gets even closer.
I currently drive a 8 year old jazz and Kah motor taking in at 24k. Not sure how much the PI can take.
Anyone can advise?

Just go to 2 places where most of the PIs are stationed at Car Mall or AML.

But I doubt PI can offer you more than 24K for your old Jazz...whats your OMV for your Jazz?

Ok, when i get the car, nov/dec

$2k is like 10 good lunches, just eat roti john for 10days and you would have saved it back already, no worries lah.....

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I wanna to praise your post but not enuff points

Btw, I looked at your profile, are you property invester or agent?�

Just pmed u, need some advise

Edited by wookie_fan, 27 September 2015 - 05:37 PM.

Wookie_fan,

OMV

HRV 1.5 LX = S$22,340

Vezel 1.5 CVT = S$18,278

Wookie_fan,

OMV

HRV 1.5 LX = S$22,340

Vezel 1.5 CVT = S$18,278

Hi Ct33833 Thanks

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OMV

HRV 1.5 LX = S$22,340

Vezel 1.5 CVT = S$18,278 (still must minus $5,000 CEVS rebate correct?) = $13,278?

Hi Ct33833 Thanks
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OMV
HRV 1.5 LX = S$22,340
Vezel 1.5 CVT = S$18,278 (still must minus $5,000 CEVS rebate correct?) = $13,278?

Vezel CEVS now $10k

Vezel CEVS now $10k

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Thanks whiteangelcsh

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OMV

HRV 1.5 LX = S$22,340

Vezel 1.5 CVT = S$18,278�(still must minus $10,000 CEVS rebate correct?) = $8,278?

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Those already bought Vezel already get good price at ard $110K & that time COE also higher.

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Now those havent buy yet sure kenna paper loss if COE remain $55K PI still wanna increase price to $112. Means PI charging $57K for car after $10 CEVS rebate? Siow!

Edited by wookie_fan, 27 September 2015 - 06:46 PM.

Hi Ct33833 Thanks

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OMV

HRV 1.5 LX = S$22,340

Vezel 1.5 CVT = S$18,278 (still must minus $5,000 CEVS rebate correct?) = $13,278?

Hi,

basing on PI spec given, Vezel CO2 emission is 115g/KM, seems very much lower than that of HRV which is about 155. If someone could confirm this will be good.

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If Vezel's CO2 is really 115g/KM, then basing on LTA website� http://www.lta.gov.s...df-09077e101468�, the rebate is S$10K. that is to say that Vezel's ARF = S$18,278 - S$10,000 = S$ 8,278.

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Then the PARF will be only about 4K.

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So those who are comparing Vezel vs HRV , I like to add my thoughts among others�comments that have been mentioned in this thread...

1. Despite the lower ARF($8k PI�vs $22k KM), the PIs are not passing the saving back to the consumers. �

2. Considering scrap value of $4k of Vezel vs $ 11K of HRV, the depreciation of both models are almost the same. But not forgetting�HRV has agent warranty whereas Vezel has outside workshop wty.

3. But Vezel is still a better spec car. even simple thing like headlights, vezel is LED whereas HRV is conventional halogen, letting alone made in Japan vs made in Thailand.

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Sorry to add more confusion but I hope to provide more complete info so that all could make a more informed decision.�

Hi,

basing on PI spec given, Vezel CO2 emission is 115g/KM, seems very much lower than that of HRV which is about 155. If someone could confirm this will be good.

�

If Vezel's CO2 is really 115g/KM, then basing on LTA website� http://www.lta.gov.s...df-09077e101468�, the rebate is S$10K. that is to say that Vezel's ARF = S$18,278 - S$10,000 = S$ 8,278.

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Then the PARF will be only about 4K.

�

So those who are comparing Vezel vs HRV , I like to add my thoughts among others�comments that have been mentioned in this thread...

1. Despite the lower ARF($8k PI�vs $22k KM), the PIs are not passing the saving back to the consumers. �

2. Considering scrap value of $4k of Vezel vs $ 11K of HRV, the depreciation of both models are almost the same. But not forgetting�HRV has agent warranty whereas Vezel has outside workshop wty.

3. But Vezel is still a better spec car. even simple thing like headlights, vezel is LED whereas HRV is conventional halogen, letting alone made in Japan vs made in Thailand.

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Sorry to add more confusion but I hope to provide more complete info so that all could make a more informed decision.�

I'm sure your post will help others in making the final decision

Hi,
basing on PI spec given, Vezel CO2 emission is 115g/KM, seems very much lower than that of HRV which is about 155. If someone could confirm this will be good.
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If Vezel's CO2 is really 115g/KM, then basing on LTA website� http://www.lta.gov.s...df-09077e101468�, the rebate is S$10K. that is to say that Vezel's ARF = S$18,278 - S$10,000 = S$ 8,278.
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Then the PARF will be only about 4K.
�
So those who are comparing Vezel vs HRV , I like to add my thoughts among others�comments that have been mentioned in this thread...
1. Despite the lower ARF($8k PI�vs $22k KM), the PIs are not passing the saving back to the consumers. �
2. Considering scrap value of $4k of Vezel vs $ 11K of HRV, the depreciation of both models are almost the same. But not forgetting�HRV has agent warranty whereas Vezel has outside workshop wty.
3. But Vezel is still a better spec car. even simple thing like headlights, vezel is LED whereas HRV is conventional halogen, letting alone made in Japan vs made in Thailand.
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Sorry to add more confusion but I hope to provide more complete info so that all could make a more informed decision.�

So price is more or less same after considering the omv amd cevs.

Warranty hrv win
Country made vezel win
Spec vezel win in terms of hp and led lights
But the additional hp of 10bhp is actually not significant.
Dohc vs sohc, can't feel the difference to be honest.

Perhaps any vezel bros and sistas who has alao tested hrv can offer more insight?

I wanna to praise your post but not enuff points
Btw, I looked at your profile, are you property invester or agent?�
Just pmed u, need some advise

Er, Which part of my profile indicates that i am property investor or property agent leh?

Er, Which part of my profile indicates that i am property investor or property agent leh?

I read & enjoyed some of your posts in property forums. Hoping to get some info here help me in my car & property decisions

So price is more or less same after considering the omv amd cevs.

Warranty hrv win
Country made vezel win
Spec vezel win in terms of hp and led lights
But the additional hp of 10bhp is actually not significant.
Dohc vs sohc, can't feel the difference to be honest.

Perhaps any vezel bros and sistas who has alao tested hrv can offer more insight?

Even if price was the same, i would probably do a Vezel instead of the HRV.
The specs and manufacturing country is almost everything for a low end B&B car.

118bhp and 129bhp is almost 10% difference
SOHC vs a more performance oriented DOHC
Confirm can feel the difference in the drive between the two especially at higher revs.

Anyway, there is nothing to debate really, its one of the cheapest cars around.
Just buy and thrash it for 10yrs, be it Vezel or HRV.

Muayhahahhaha.

Hi,

basing on PI spec given, Vezel CO2 emission is 115g/KM, seems very much lower than that of HRV which is about 155. If someone could confirm this will be good.

�

If Vezel's CO2 is really 115g/KM, then basing on LTA website� http://www.lta.gov.s...df-09077e101468�, the rebate is S$10K. that is to say that Vezel's ARF = S$18,278 - S$10,000 = S$ 8,278.

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Then the PARF will be only about 4K.

�

So those who are comparing Vezel vs HRV , I like to add my thoughts among others�comments that have been mentioned in this thread...

1. Despite the lower ARF($8k PI�vs $22k KM), the PIs are not passing the saving back to the consumers. �

2. Considering scrap value of $4k of Vezel vs $ 11K of HRV, the depreciation of both models are almost the same. But not forgetting�HRV has agent warranty whereas Vezel has outside workshop wty.

3. But Vezel is still a better spec car. even simple thing like headlights, vezel is LED whereas HRV is conventional halogen, letting alone made in Japan vs made in Thailand.

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Sorry to add more confusion but I hope to provide more complete info so that all could make a more informed decision.�

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omv above 20K = 50% maximum loan also.

The gap between HRV n Vezel is getting very small. As times goes it is going to be more difficult for buyers. But hopefully it benifits buyers so that PI price can't go up n AD keep price low.

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Depend on the film. Possible to use those kinds of film that have very VLT reduction with UV rejection. As long as VLT meets standards required, film on tinted glass is acceptable.

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HONDA VEZEL FEATURES

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Additional Features Security Package Auto Brake Hold Function Electronic Control Parking Brake VSA (Vehicle Stability Assist) Cruise Control Engineering Koashisuto (ECON mode/Coaching Function) Privacy Glass with UV Cut Function

HONDA VEZEL FEATURES

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Additional Features Security Package Auto Brake Hold Function Electronic Control Parking Brake VSA (Vehicle Stability Assist) Cruise Control Engineering Koashisuto (ECON mode/Coaching Function) Privacy Glass with UV Cut Function
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I'm not sure what you are trying to tell me.

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I'm not sure what you are trying to tell me.

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Your last post

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Interested in the vezel and checked out a few PIs recently, one of them told me there is no need to install�solar film�as the windows are already tinted with UV protection from Japan. Installing additional�solar film�may fail LTA inspection. Really?

No wonder People say, Singaporeans sibei kiasu, until really boh por!
Must consider until the last drop of blood and squeeze out the last drop of sweat meh?
Want to compare the tyres used?
Want to compare the fuel pump from which supplier?
Want to compare the starter motor and radiator from which factory or not?

Come on lah, its just a bloody B&B car, can afford buy, cannot afford dont buy.
If like agent, buy HRV, if like high specs buy PI.
Simple thing complicate so much for fark?

dont be such sad bunch can?

Ok i'm outta here

Edited by Throttle2, 27 September 2015 - 09:49 PM.

Your last post

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Interested in the vezel and checked out a few PIs recently, one of them told me there is no need to install�solar film�as the windows are already tinted with UV protection from Japan. Installing additional�solar film�may fail LTA inspection. Really?

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that one is someone else posted. as I said before, whether the glass is privacy tinted or not, it's okay to install solar film so long as the film does not reduce visible light transmission to the point where it does not meet LTA's requirements.

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e.g. if you install a clear film that rejects 75% UV and heat but does not affect VLT, it's still legal.

It's just that it's arguably unnecessary when the glass itself is already tinted. Of course a film will improve the heat rejection more.

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that one is someone else posted. as I said before, whether the glass is privacy tinted or not, it's okay to install solar film so long as the film does not reduce visible light transmission to the point where it does not meet LTA's requirements.

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e.g. if you install a clear film that rejects 75% UV and heat but does not affect VLT, it's still legal.

It's just that it's arguably unnecessary when the glass itself is already tinted. Of course a film will improve the heat rejection more.

pai seh wrong post�

anyone deal with Car House before & collected their ride recently, can share ur experience please? Hv read frm FB some review but also wld like to hear reviews from here... TIA...

Edited by crazysiao, 27 September 2015 - 10:00 PM.

Imho...xv is underpowered and plasticky for the interior. Qq may be better in terms of built.

Qatar is a strong contender but xv is old school. Every light is halogen at this age of time. Interior design also very old school aka dial control ac. Direct copy and paste from Impreza. Vezel based on jazz yet Honda make an effort to differentiate them.

No wonder People say, Singaporeans sibei kiasu, until really boh por!
Must consider until the last drop of blood and squeeze out the last drop of sweat meh?
Want to compare the tyres used?
Want to compare the fuel pump from which supplier?
Want to compare the starter motor and radiator from which factory or not?

Come on lah, its just a bloody B&B car, can afford buy, cannot afford dont buy.
If like agent, buy HRV, if like high specs buy PI.
Simple thing complicate so much for fark?

dont be such sad bunch can?

Ok i'm outta here

Yeah bro totally with u in this. Over 500 pages in this tread and still so many qns. Wanted to praise u but no power to do so. Cheers everyone!

Qatar is a strong contender but xv is old school. Every light is halogen at this age of time. Interior design also very old school aka dial control ac. Direct copy and paste from Impreza. Vezel based on jazz yet Honda make an effort to differentiate them.

Yes. Xv is really very basic imho. Actually if we were to compare just the omv, subaru's omv is a bit low.

No wonder People say, Singaporeans sibei kiasu, until really boh por!
Must consider until the last drop of blood and squeeze out the last drop of sweat meh?
Want to compare the tyres used?
Want to compare the fuel pump from which supplier?
Want to compare the starter motor and radiator from which factory or not?

Come on lah, its just a bloody B&B car, can afford buy, cannot afford dont buy.
If like agent, buy HRV, if like high specs buy PI.
Simple thing complicate so much for fark?

dont be such sad bunch can?

Ok i'm outta here

Bro...though bnb its still 100k. Last time 100k can get a much wider range of cars and pple where got compare so much....during then i also suka suka just buy. Not everyone's as blessed as you bro. It may be a bnb to u but not to many...no offence bro but that is the sad truth in sg for many of us...

anyone deal with Car House before & collected their ride recently, can share ur experience please? Hv read frm FB some review but also wld like to hear reviews from here... TIA...

Initially I place my order with JXX but the delivery was supposed to be in July/August but was told it was delayed to Dec instead. Hence I cancelled my original deal and after talking to Car House, I placed my deposit. I placed my order during our National Day and as promised, got my car in Sept. As compared to my previous PI, Car House Rep keeps updating me the status of my car to curb my worries.

Hehe...u better keep out of this forum then.

Here mostly poorer ppl with our very expensive vezel. We paid what we feel like a bomb for the car.

No wonder People say, Singaporeans sibei kiasu, until really boh por!
Must consider until the last drop of blood and squeeze out the last drop of sweat meh?
Want to compare the tyres used?
Want to compare the fuel pump from which supplier?
Want to compare the starter motor and radiator from which factory or not?

Come on lah, its just a bloody B&B car, can afford buy, cannot afford dont buy.
If like agent, buy HRV, if like high specs buy PI.
Simple thing complicate so much for fark?

dont be such sad bunch can?

Ok i'm outta here

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I think it's precisely it's a B&B car that's why people compare like that.

You have to understand some of the folks here are�financially borderline in terms of car ownership.

If may be wiser for some of them�not to buy the car at all. That's why they squeezed more.

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The more financially sound ones are probably alreadyenjoying the rides or asked more relevant questions on maintenance and upkeeping.

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I also believe a huge bulk of them are first time owners and not sure what to expect (muahahaha!!)� So it evidently questions like�"whether SOHC or DOHC is more suitable in local roads" will appear.

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Not everyone treat this a 2nd car leh. Let's cut them some slack shall we.

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Anyway, for first time buyer and noobs, Mine advise: Go for AD, pay abit more knowing you can just drive the car into the service centre and collect it at the end of the day without worries. Pay abit more knowing that when shit happens, call the dealer for advise rather than hearing 10�advise from 10 different workshops. It's a 100k+ car for 10yrs, not a modded Nintendo Wii.

Edited by Pocus, 28 September 2015 - 10:33 AM.

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I think it's precisely it's a B&B car that's why people compare like that.
You have to understand some of the folks here are�financially borderline in terms of car ownership.
If may be wiser for some of them�not to buy the car at all. That's why they squeezed more.
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The more financially sound ones are probably alreadyenjoying the rides or asked more relevant questions on maintenance and upkeeping.
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I also believe a huge bulk of them are first time owners and not sure what to expect (muahahaha!!)� So it evidently questions like�"whether SOHC or DOHC is more suitable in local roads" will appear.
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Not everyone treat this a 2nd car leh. Let's cut them some slack shall we.
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Anyway, for first time buyer and noobs, Mine advise: Go for AD, pay abit more knowing you can just drive the car into the service centre and collect it at the end of the day without worries. Pay abit more knowing that when shit happens, call the dealer for advise rather than hearing 10�advise from 10 different workshops. It's a 100k+ car for 10yrs, not a modded Nintendo Wii.

Even if its my 2nd car i treat it with respect and not to trash it around. I still take care of it like how i took care of my primary car as im a poor car lover...lol

Even if its my 2nd car i treat it with respect and not to trash it around. I still take care of it like how i took care of my primary car as im a poor car lover...lol

Car in sinkieland jin expensive so have to maintain for longevity.

But i cant said aay the same for exterior care, washing and spending more on polishing.
Life is too short to waste time on this.

Back then, we could use 110k to buy 2 altis or 2 Lancer, or 2 vios with almost 30k change back.

Even a PI Camry then less than 100k.

Yeah..the vezel is BNB, but it's ain't cheap. At this price, I can buy a AMG merz or M3 in other ccountries ....

Back then, we could use 110k to buy 2 altis or 2 Lancer, or 2 vios with almost 30k change back.

Even a PI Camry then less than 100k.

Yeah..the vezel is BNB, but it's ain't cheap. At this price, I can buy a AMG merz or M3 in other ccountries ....

Agreed. Actually even camry from bm was only at 80plus k.

Agreed. Actually even camry from bm was only at 80plus k.

I remembered there was a time even a mazda 323 cost 120k.
Downpayment was at least 30%.
When they introduced 0 % Downpayment, anyone can buy a car. 2008/09 had the lowest coe.
In fact the most part coe was above 40k

Back then, we could use 110k to buy 2 altis or 2 Lancer, or 2 vios with almost 30k change back.

Even a PI Camry then less than 100k.

Yeah..the vezel is BNB, but it's ain't cheap. At this price, I can buy a AMG merz or M3 in other ccountries ....

Back then i could buy a 4000sft semi detach for $2mil.
So best to keep in todays context.

A B&B car is currently priced between $100k to $130k
Accept it. Becos you and i contribute to its price

Anyway the point is not too much About the money.
The Vezel is commoditised by now so there is no need for us to be overly kiasu and compare everything.
Prepare your finances well, get the color of your choice, enjoy it, use it.

Dont be a slave to it, bottomline.
Sorry , becos some of you really sound like you are
perhaps reality is some of you cant truly afford a car.

if anyones next post is about haolian etc... Plse save it
I think we are way past that by now right?

I know i am a rough man, not very high class and speak poorly sometimes.
I dont mean to offend but more to stir thoughts for the better

I just feel that we are better off in this thread talking more about experiences and sharing knowledge on the car.

For example, from the owners, any issues so far?
Mechanical problems? What to do?
What shop is vezel friendly? What are the essential add ons
Group buys on upgrades and mods. Also post more pics to share the subtlr differences in each others cars. Stuff like that.

I know i am a rough man, not very high class and speak poorly sometimes.
I dont mean to offend but more to stir thoughts for the better

I just feel that we are better off in this thread talking more about experiences and sharing knowledge on the car.

For example, from the owners, any issues so far?
Mechanical problems? What to do?
What shop is vezel friendly? What are the essential add ons
Group buys on upgrades and mods. Also post more pics to share the subtlr differences in each others cars. Stuff like that.

Agree with u. No offense taken.
Stir some thoughts, pratical talk and sharing information.
Not nitty gritty stuff. Some of the things i read here can be either amusing at best or downright boliao.
Like u said, its a bnb car, why compare this compare that till the cow come home liao.
From some post some ppl want power yet want fc yet want comfort then hiam price again

Dun mind me saying and highlight that first, this is a PUBLIC OPEN forum. I dun think it is appropriate to suggest what is, and what is not to be discussed here.

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The forum caters to the mass audience of ppl of all ages, all walks of life and from different financial backgrounds. Some buyers may be very careful about their purchase and may ask tons of questions, especially the 1st time buyers. We have all done the same in one way or another in our earlier days.

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Anyway, I dun think its necessary to discuss or to stir thoughts whether someone should afford a car or not. Who are we to judge anyway? I know my low income colleague bought a B&B car so that he can send his aged, hardly can walk mum to the dialysis centre. And another who needs to send both parent to the hospital regularly.

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Perhaps for those who wants to be more specified in their discussion can join forums where they�have specified topics in�separate threads (General Discussion, Engine and Mods, Exterior etc),� Maybe the HRV/Vezel forum?

I know i am a rough man, not very high class and speak poorly sometimes.
I dont mean to offend but more to stir thoughts for the better

I just feel that we are better off in this thread talking more about experiences and sharing knowledge on the car.

For example, from the owners, any issues so far?
Mechanical problems? What to do?
What shop is vezel friendly? What are the essential add ons
Group buys on upgrades and mods. Also post more pics to share the subtlr differences in each others cars. Stuff like that.

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Bro, just side track a bit, but are you the cigar loving guy who posted quite a bit in SBF some 10 years back? That time you drove Volvo S80 I believe. Had some discussions with you on investment stuff etc..

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I think it's precisely it's a B&B car that's why people compare like that.

You have to understand some of the folks here are�financially borderline in terms of car ownership.

If may be wiser for some of them�not to buy the car at all. That's why they squeezed more.

�

The more financially sound ones are probably alreadyenjoying the rides or asked more relevant questions on maintenance and upkeeping.

�

I also believe a huge bulk of them are first time owners and not sure what to expect (muahahaha!!)� So it evidently questions like�"whether SOHC or DOHC is more suitable in local roads" will appear.

�

Not everyone treat this a 2nd car leh. Let's cut them some slack shall we.

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Anyway, for first time buyer and noobs, Mine advise: Go for AD, pay abit more knowing you can just drive the car into the service centre and collect it at the end of the day without worries. Pay abit more knowing that when shit happens, call the dealer for advise rather than hearing 10�advise from 10 different workshops. It's a 100k+ car for 10yrs, not a modded Nintendo Wii.

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Well said! Wanna praise but unable.

Chill guys, this is only a car forum for all to read, gain knowledge and enjoy.

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I have been driving my Vezel for 10 months now and still feel shiok every time I start the car. True that sound insulation can be better but we cannot have everything, right? I have been slowly poisoning my car and these latest were fixed a couple of weeks ago. Because my driving is 70/30 highway/city, I am also getting around 16km/l (meter reading).

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wah, the lit reflectors and chrome side-skirt garnish are chio. your rim also quite fierce, but the chrome color a bit strange looking?

Dun mind me saying and highlight that first, this is a PUBLIC OPEN forum. I dun think it is appropriate to suggest what is, and what is not to be discussed here.

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But hor, by posting this suggestion that ppl should NOT suggest what should and should not be discussed, you are already suggesting that we should not suggest things to say and not say, i.e. you are going against your own suggestion. Haha, no offence.

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Anyway i think what T2 mean is to try to keep to the topic�about�this car (vezel)�and not go off course into other topics which is a very fair suggestion. Yes�as a whole, MCF is a public and open FORUM but within the FORUM, there are many�THREADS and we should try to keep to it.�The "2nd Sept COE exercise"�thread has now currently gone off course�into the age-old argument of cars being a need or want which has been discussed till death.

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But hor, by posting this suggestion that ppl should NOT suggest what should and should not be discussed, you are already suggesting that we should not suggest things to say and not say, i.e. you are going against your own suggestion. Haha, no offence.

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Bro is this a suggestionception? 1 sentence got 5 'suggest' appear

Sounds like rapping anyway, haha

Edited by Akszaksz, 30 September 2015 - 03:55 PM.

Need some advice from you guys,will the side airbags of the driver and front�passengers seats

be deactivated if I change it to leather seats??�

Chill guys, this is only a car forum for all to read, gain knowledge and enjoy.

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I have been driving my Vezel for 10 months now and still feel shiok every time I start the car. True that sound insulation can be better but we cannot have everything, right? I have been slowly poisoning my car and these latest were fixed a couple of weeks ago. Because my driving is 70/30 highway/city, I am also getting around 16km/l (meter reading).

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Agreed with you that Vezel's sound insulation is bad...

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You can try installing sound insulation for the whole car...should be less than $1.5k.

Edited by Imac, 30 September 2015 - 06:34 PM.

Agreed with you that Vezel's sound insulation is bad...

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You can try installing sound insulation for the whole car...should be less than $1.5k.

I haven't collect my vezel yet but I don't think it's worse than Nissan Sunny right?

I haven't collect my vezel yet but I don't think it's worse than Nissan Sunny right?

You can compare. Never drive before but sat in a frens car before...i can only say its as noisy as fit/jazz.

You can compare. Never drive before but sat in a frens car before...i can only say its as noisy as fit/jazz.

Ok la i drove fit before, not that noisy.
Sunny is still quieter

The thing about Honda cars is because they want you to hear the roar of the vtec engine.. one of the best or if not the best NA engines in the world??

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Yea the older vtec engines are the bomb.. but i guess as what some say.. just add some sound proofing.. most hondas i've sat or driven are not that quiet..

Dun mind me saying and highlight that first, this is a PUBLIC OPEN forum. I dun think it is appropriate to suggest what is, and what is not to be discussed here.

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The forum caters to the mass audience of ppl of all ages, all walks of life and from different financial backgrounds. Some buyers may be very careful about their purchase and may ask tons of questions, especially the 1st time buyers. We have all done the same in one way or another in our earlier days.

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Anyway, I dun think its necessary to discuss or to stir thoughts whether someone should afford a car or not. Who are we to judge anyway? I know my low income colleague bought a B&B car so that he can send his aged, hardly can walk mum to the dialysis centre. And another who needs to send both parent to the hospital regularly.

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Perhaps for those who wants to be more specified in their discussion can join forums where they�have specified topics in�separate threads (General Discussion, Engine and Mods, Exterior etc),� Maybe the HRV/Vezel forum?

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On the contrary, as you said "this�is a PUBLIC OPEN forum",�anyone can post what he�wants, so�why T2 cannot�suggest �what is appropriate and�not appropriate to be discussed here.

JUST RELAX!!!

Edited by lausai88, 30 September 2015 - 09:04 PM.

Any Bros can advise me how long usually LTA takes to inspect and pass the vehicle before we can register?

Need some advice from you guys,will the side airbags of the driver and front�passengers seats
be deactivated if I change it to leather seats??�

You mean merely changing leather seats only or you referring to leather wrapping the pillar as well?

Technically should not have any issue with changing leather seats as the connectors r below the seats. So far never heard of cases that they are deactivated. Many have change their leather seat.

BUT if leather wrapping the pillar then it might pose an issue as if the airbag is activated, it might be able to penetrate thru the leather. The current plastic cover is of a softer or thinner material which allows the air bag to penetrate thru should it opens.

But again, there are cases where stock car got into head on collision, even steering air fails to deploy. Logic every simple. If u serve NS before and have went to range you should know what is IA. But car manufacturer will never tell you that.

Hi guys, finally got my account AGAIN. Previous account was locked due to 2 years not in use. Hahahaha. Got to sign up new account with another email.

Anyway, I ordered my vezel X model on 2 Aug and collected on 8 sept as promised.

I asked the PI (newly opened, less than 6 months) if they have ready stock. They say yes n I got them to show me the chassis no. So confirm they got ready stock, I took a gamble n ordered with them, a saving of 3k when compared with the rest of the PI. Thinking that since they r new, they will be hard up for business n reputation. Best is when I parked there, I was just right in front of their showroom n saw a couple was that collecting their silver vezel. So I told myself they delivers, at least I seen it with my own eyes.

True enough. I got it in a month. My deal was a 1 bid guaranteed COE. So they secured the 2nd COE bidding in August. At that time, major player was offering me at least 111k for immediate delivery, which is about 1 month. BS I would say, since my previous ride was a Rush, so I know how PI works.

Anyway, I just realized today that the taillight on the boot door is merely reflector only. The actual taillight is at the body. The boot door only has reverse light only. Quite disturb by the auto start stop n CTBA. Also, I realized that if I accelerate gradually, sometime the rpm went as high as 4-5k. As if the gear have not been changed. I guess still not use to CVT. Heard lots of story about it.

Overall, I'm a happy owner.

Edited by BuffyNo2, 01 October 2015 - 12:28 AM.

Any Bros can advise me how long usually LTA takes to inspect and pass the vehicle before we can register?

1 day. PI receive the letter or email from LTA, they can proceed to Vicom for inspection Liao
As for how long LTA send this letter or email out, usually it's about 2-3 days to a week.

Once cleared Vicom, registration is done their online and is 1 working day again.

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Anyway, I just realized today that the taillight on the boot door is merely reflector only. The actual taillight is at the body. The boot door only has reverse light only. ...............

why dont you join this fb group.

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Edited by trajet2b, 01 October 2015 - 07:11 AM.

1 day. PI receive the letter or email from LTA, they can proceed to Vicom for inspection Liao
As for how long LTA send this letter or email out, usually it's about 2-3 days to a week.

Once cleared Vicom, registration is done their online and is 1 working day again.

Bro, thanks for the info! Congrats and enjoy ur ride!

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Good morning. Thanks for the info. I understand the FB is very PI. Hence nv go n see. On the other hand, there is a sgvezel club? I saw a Thai brining spares, which includes these LED taillight. But pricy.
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Bro, thanks for the info! Congrats and enjoy ur ride!

No worries man.

Edited by BuffyNo2, 01 October 2015 - 07:42 AM.

Good morning. Thanks for the info. I understand the FB is very PI. Hence nv go n see. On the other hand, there is a sgvezel club? I saw a Thai brining spares, which includes these LED taillight. But pricy.
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No worries man.

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This FB group is not by PI.

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All Admins are Vezel/HRV owners.

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We share and exchange info and do meet ups.

Edited by trajet2b, 01 October 2015 - 08:05 AM.

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