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Honda Vezel part 76

  • 03 August 2015 - 05:34 PM
    Axeman24

    Just hear from my colleague he placed his order with Hup Long last week. They guarantee delivery within next month as they have stock on hand. I can't remember how much he paid, but he mention that he had to pay 2k more for it. I guess is how urgent you wish to collect your car. Good luck to all.


  • 03 August 2015 - 05:41 PM
    Iceshelterx

    Test drive HRV last sat and really wanted to buy it...

    Look like vezel hybrid is better choice...


  • 03 August 2015 - 05:59 PM
    Rationalexuberance

    Saw at least 10 Vezels arrived at JDM waiting for customers collection.

    Swee!

    All the best to you.

    As pple are trying to climb out from bad deals from this dealer, you are entering the lions den.

    Please share your grievances when they come soon.

    Cheers


  • 03 August 2015 - 06:14 PM
    atka166

    Hi Vezel Friends! I've also been watching this space regarding the Vezel and I'm especially interested in the Hybrid version. I have a few questions - hope some friends here can help out:

    1) What is the OMV for the Vezel Hybrid? I'm a bit cash tight at the moment so may need to stretch my loan as much as possible - can get 60% loan if the OMV <= $20,000, right?

    2) I have read a lot about the buying experience from PIs, but can my friends here share their experience for the on-going maintenance of PI cars. Can the PI service centres handle the maintenance and repairs properly? I am worried especially if I buy the Hybrid model from them, the mechanical/electrical systems are very complex - not sure whether the PI workshops can handle properly or not.

    3) Anyone here have experience with Hybrid cars? How long do the Lithium Ion batteries last? Like how many charge-discharge cycles can it take before the whole battery needs to be replaced? From my experience with handphones/lap-tops, rechargeable batteries will loose their charge-holding capabilities and then become useless after some time. I imagine if the Hybrid car's battery need replacement the cost will be quite high! Any advice?

    Thanks all!


  • 03 August 2015 - 06:43 PM
    Rationalexuberance

    Hi Vezel Friends! I've also been watching this space regarding the Vezel and I'm especially interested in the Hybrid version. I have a few questions - hope some friends here can help out:

    1) What is the OMV for the Vezel Hybrid? I'm a bit cash tight at the moment so may need to stretch my loan as much as possible - can get 60% loan if the OMV <= $20,000, right?

    2) I have read a lot about the buying experience from PIs, but can my friends here share their experience for the on-going maintenance of PI cars. Can the PI service centres handle the maintenance and repairs properly? I am worried especially if I buy the Hybrid model from them, the mechanical/electrical systems are very complex - not sure whether the PI workshops can handle properly or not.

    3) Anyone here have experience with Hybrid cars? How long do the Lithium Ion batteries last? Like how many charge-discharge cycles can it take before the whole battery needs to be replaced? From my experience with handphones/lap-tops, rechargeable batteries will loose their charge-holding capabilities and then become useless after some time. I imagine if the Hybrid car's battery need replacement the cost will be quite high! Any advice?

    Thanks all!

    We have a private whatsapp chat grp where all known Vezel hybrid owners & would-be owners who booked & serious buyers still thinking gather.

    Feel free to PM me to chat a while on whatsapp 1st or even meet up. Brought a few of them to a joy ride in the hybrid. No need to type so much, just feel the ride and you will know if it's meant to be owned by you bro.

    Cheers!!


  • 03 August 2015 - 06:49 PM
    lach90


    All the best to you.

    As pple are trying to climb out from bad deals from this dealer, you are entering the lions den.

    Please share your grievances when they come soon.

    Cheers


    Care to shed some light?
    I think some of us (including me) are considering JDM but still lack information their reliability. Sure lot of buyers will appreciate any inputs. Thanks

    Just hear from my colleague he placed his order with Hup Long last week. They guarantee delivery within next month as they have stock on hand. I can't remember how much he paid, but he mention that he had to pay 2k more for it. I guess is how urgent you wish to collect your car. Good luck to all.


    I contacted them a few days ago and was quoted with COE rebate. So it's kind of a deal breaker hearing so many warning against any deals without rebates. Was wondering why so many got from Hup Long.

    Reputation?
    Package?
    Track record?

    New to the market but they seem to be many buyer's choice.
  • 03 August 2015 - 07:08 PM
    Ken138
    JDM... Saw their price .un un un un un un un un un un un un un un un un. Unbelievable !! :-)
    Really hope real deal !! Or is it too good to be true ?
    Just Dun Mention ... ;-)
  • 03 August 2015 - 07:38 PM
    Kieran1975

    Saw at least 10 Vezels arrived at JDM waiting for customers collection.

    Swee!

    JDM.... :a-noway::a-noway::a-noway:


  • 03 August 2015 - 07:49 PM
    tyco_kia

    Care to shed some light?
    I think some of us (including me) are considering JDM but still lack information their reliability. Sure lot of buyers will appreciate any inputs. Thanks

    I contacted them a few days ago and was quoted with COE rebate. So it's kind of a deal breaker hearing so many warning against any deals without rebates. Was wondering why so many got from Hup Long.

    Reputation?
    Package?
    Track record?

    New to the market but they seem to be many buyer's choice.

    honestly I wouldn't know the answer but I suspect it's because of price because every singaporean is price-conscious� [cool]


  • 03 August 2015 - 07:56 PM
    trajet2b

    Just hear from my colleague he placed his order with Hup Long last week. They guarantee delivery within next month as they have stock on hand. I can't remember how much he paid, but he mention that he had to pay 2k more for it. I guess is how urgent you wish to collect your car. Good luck to all.

    paid $2K more for next month delivery, imho is a good deal. you dont have to worry with HL.

    Their track records speaks for itself.

    Unlike most of them, who takes your booking and then order from Japan, HL indent their inventory first.

    Thats why they can promise and keep to their delivery schedule.

    no vested interest in them, just from my own observation since last october.�


    Edited by trajet2b, 03 August 2015 - 07:56 PM.

  • 03 August 2015 - 08:58 PM
    Saggice

    All the best to you.

    As pple are trying to climb out from bad deals from this dealer, you are entering the lions den.

    Please share your grievances when they come soon.

    Cheers

    wah heng I never book from them, I was just passing by only and was stunned because vezels took up almost their own shop.

    And its quite crowded with folks admiring those vezels and enquiring.


  • 03 August 2015 - 09:10 PM
    Mkl22


    paid $2K more for next month delivery, imho is a good deal. you dont have to worry with HL.
    Their track records speaks for itself.

    Unlike most of them, who takes your booking and then order from Japan, HL indent their inventory first.
    Thats why they can promise and keep to their delivery schedule.

    no vested interest in them, just from my own observation since last october.�


    Never bought a car from them before but they have been in the business for a long long time. They were our other choice had my parents not bought a wish from Ricardo. HL is very upfront and clear. Of course not the cheapest but in the middle. They of course will be one of my choice to consider if I were to buy car now
  • 03 August 2015 - 09:16 PM
    kelvinlbl

    JDM... Saw their price .un un un un un un un un un un un un un un un un. Unbelievable !! :-)
    Really hope real deal !! Or is it too good to be true ?
    Just Dun Mention ... ;-)

    Bro go to join Singapore Vezel HRV club and read what happen to JDM before u make decision.
  • 03 August 2015 - 09:31 PM
    kelvinlbl

    From what I gather they will start bidding when the car is reaching Singapore. They only started bidding for me when they confirm car was being delivered. One bid then secured Liao. I think in this dropping COE climate the longer they start the biding the better for you. As I said I got a rebate of slightly more the 1k... I think if wait next bidding maybe can get a better rebate?.. So that's my only regret. Sign contract too early.


    Bro,usually PI bid COE when LTA car inspection is finish or COE price to their advantage. (PI hv 6-8 bids to play the game)
  • 04 August 2015 - 12:06 AM
    lach90

    Seems like Hup Long have great reviews by many.�

    Definitely shortlisting them.�

    My last question is probably what is the standard package I should request?�

    E.g. 3 years warranty, 2 years services, road tax, pioneer HU, camera etc ....

    Any bros care to share what their PI offered with their purchase?

    It will be better if its with Hup Long ! I got a good feeling they will be my choice� [:)]


  • 04 August 2015 - 02:37 AM
    Rationalexuberance

    Care to shed some light?
    I think some of us (including me) are considering JDM but still lack information their reliability. Sure lot of buyers will appreciate any inputs. Thanks

    I contacted them a few days ago and was quoted with COE rebate. So it's kind of a deal breaker hearing so many warning against any deals without rebates. Was wondering why so many got from Hup Long.

    Reputation?
    Package?
    Track record?

    New to the market but they seem to be many buyer's choice.

    meet up over kopi n i show you in detail..

    recently..suspected fraud..


  • 04 August 2015 - 07:57 AM
    Highmount

    Guys, I'm thinking of getting a Vezel myself. Can recommend me some reliable PI? Would Hup Long be one of them?

    Thanks


  • 04 August 2015 - 08:51 AM
    Dswm

    Just hear from my colleague he placed his order with Hup Long last week. They guarantee delivery within next month as they have stock on hand. I can't remember how much he paid, but he mention that he had to pay 2k more for it. I guess is how urgent you wish to collect your car. Good luck to all.

    i had a colleague who, after i referred him to hup long (where i ordered my vezel from), booked one immediately and got it within the month as well.

    to me, if you like the car (even without test driving it, mind you) and if the price is right, the conditions are acceptable, and all within your 'tolerance level', those are sufficient reasons to book. it becomes complicated when one brings in factors that are beyond one's control.... in the end, don't regret (the car sits idle on the car park lot longer than we do driving it).

    for some it's a matter of urgency (to get the car soon), others may be loyalty to brand, someone else prefers to wait for prices to fall further, others more may have heard good things about Vezel, many are new & inexperienced car buyers altogether, others wish to do more research, still some who don't trust PIs, many more are seasoned & mature buyers..... what ever the reason... enjoy the ride and make the most of the car (even though, the decision to buy a car in S'pore is crazy!).


  • 04 August 2015 - 09:04 AM
    Akszaksz

    Any reviews on cartimes, leco auto & abwin?


  • 04 August 2015 - 09:36 AM
    Hwang79

    paid $2K more for next month delivery, imho is a good deal. you dont have to worry with HL.

    Their track records speaks for itself.

    Unlike most of them, who takes your booking and then order from Japan, HL indent their inventory first.

    Thats why they can promise and keep to their delivery schedule.

    no vested interest in them, just from my own observation since last october.�

    I was offered the same deal too when I placed my order a few months back. But I didn't take it as 2K meant a lot to me and I wasn't in need of a new car and ok to wait for about 3 months (just additional 2 months).

    They delivered my Vezel 3 months later as agreed. I'm a happy owner of my Vezel now.� :a-happy:


  • 04 August 2015 - 10:27 AM
    Penknife

    All the best to you.

    As pple are trying to climb out from bad deals from this dealer, you are entering the lions den.

    Please share your grievances when they come soon.

    Cheers

    can you elaborate more?

    their facebook looks legit and i would assume so.

    and why i said legit is because there are customers posing with the car on the company's facebook. it's a common practice among car dealers who, i assume, want to portray themselves as legit.

    as a consumer, if i think the dealer is lousy, i won't want them to take a picture of me with my new ride and the number plate.�


  • 04 August 2015 - 10:37 AM
    Penknife

    i had a colleague who, after i referred him to hup long (where i ordered my vezel from), booked one immediately and got it within the month as well.

    to me, if you like the car (even without test driving it, mind you) and if the price is right, the conditions are acceptable, and all within your 'tolerance level', those are sufficient reasons to book. it becomes complicated when one brings in factors that are beyond one's control.... in the end, don't regret (the car sits idle on the car park lot longer than we do driving it).

    for some it's a matter of urgency (to get the car soon), others may be loyalty to brand, someone else prefers to wait for prices to fall further, others more may have heard good things about Vezel, many are new & inexperienced car buyers altogether, others wish to do more research, still some who don't trust PIs, many more are seasoned & mature buyers..... what ever the reason... enjoy the ride and make the most of the car (even though, the decision to buy a car in S'pore is crazy!).

    hup leong doesn't have hybrid.


  • 04 August 2015 - 11:06 AM
    Honker

    Seems like Hup Long have great reviews by many.�

    Definitely shortlisting them.�

    My last question is probably what is the standard package I should request?�

    E.g. 3 years warranty, 2 years services, road tax, pioneer HU, camera etc ....

    Any bros care to share what their PI offered with their purchase?

    It will be better if its with Hup Long ! I got a good feeling they will be my choice� [:)]

    Lach, I got mine from HL too. Got my car in 22 days. they gave me V7 iroad cam, leather seat, pioneer dvd bt, 3 years warranty, 6 months road tax and such..... I paid 2k more for 1 month delivery and they exceeded my expectations. Now im thinking whether I should install bodykit, getting poisoned by all the online forum photos of Vezel w bodykit!

    Anyway, my SE quite steady, he is very prompt in replying all my msgs when I was in doubt so I will definitely recommend HL and this SE. Extra money for assurance and service attitude, it was all well worthed it.


  • 04 August 2015 - 11:14 AM
    Honker

    Any reviews on cartimes, leco auto & abwin?

    I did my research online before buying from Hup Long. I also did research on the company u mentioned. CarTimes seems to be a good choice too. My reservist fren signed with Leco during May but hasn't gotten his car yet, I didn't ask him whats the terms on the contract he agreed with them so I can comment on Leco� just yet. For Abwin, I didn't do any research at all, so cant comment too, haha.

    Good luck to your car hunting venture!


  • 04 August 2015 - 11:35 AM
    Sean73

    Wanna buy from a PI?

    Do check this FB group that is not MODERATED by any PI,

    no point to join a FB Group set up by a PI and delete all honest comments about their practice and barred you from the group to make it look like all is well.

    https://www.facebook...RVClub/?fref=nf

    and looking at the people that posts with their real FB profile instead of PI or SE hiding behind a fake profile and post wonderful stuffs about their own self.


  • 04 August 2015 - 11:41 AM
    Sean73

    Care to shed some light?
    I think some of us (including me) are considering JDM but still lack information their reliability. Sure lot of buyers will appreciate any inputs. Thanks

    I contacted them a few days ago and was quoted with COE rebate. So it's kind of a deal breaker hearing so many warning against any deals without rebates. Was wondering why so many got from Hup Long.

    Reputation?
    Package?
    Track record?

    New to the market but they seem to be many buyer's choice.

    Bro,

    Check this FB group that was set up by people that bought a Vezel and is not moderated by any PI or SE.

    No point to join a group that is moderated by a PI / SE and delete honest comment about their practice and even barred people from that group to make it looks so damm good :-)

    https://www.facebook...RVClub/?fref=nf


  • 04 August 2015 - 11:47 AM
    Sean73

    Congrats Honker for the new car :P

    No offend please, jus my 2 cent.

    Priced 2-3k more and throw in iroad v7 which cost about $300 plus minus. Not forgetting no rebates... which in turns the PI will be laughing to the bank.... I think i should ask the boss "your shop is to sell or to rob" instead. And there is actually �cheap(or would say reasonable) and good thing in buying car.. its just how much effort you put into before signing the SA and not from some bulls**t brainwashing PIs.

    Think i know which PI.. presumely quite well known.. very straight forward.. however no rebates turns me off..thou they guarantee delivery which i am sure they will since their profit is so much higher than the rest.

    But i rather be the buy "cheap" or i should say buy "reasonable" car from reasonable and reliable PIs.

    Honker since you say u book recently after your friend got his car at May, i presume you make your order on somewhere May to June.

    An estimation when quoted:

    Price of Vezel X 113k-117k �est during time of June no rebates.. June's 1st coe was 66k

    1) 113k - 66k= 47k car price

    2) 113k - 61k= 52k

    3) 113k - 58k= 55k

    4) 113k - 55k= 58k

    By looking at above calculation, depend on which Coe you secured = to the car price that you are paying.

    It's not about "their price is $2k to $3k more" than other PIs but its at least 5k to 10k more !

    I'm just sharing my thought n experience.. some people willing to pay more maybe for peace of mind..some might just wanna save a little bit more to lessen their loan... so it all comes with all individuals.

    In the end of the day.. just buy and be happy and enjoy the ride :D

    Very True,

    COE has dropped and will drop for the next coming bid too for a Cat A COE,

    What if it happens to increase again?

    Those that bought in Feb to May, how many have collected their vehicle before June while the COE was high?

    If you wanna take that risk and be without a car and you do not mind that your dealer just keep on delaying to BID for your COE and it makes you happy then enjoy your nightmares :-)


  • 04 August 2015 - 11:52 AM
    Sean73

    Hi,
    The reason why zion doesnt bid for coe 1st is I personally believe when the car not even here in sg and why we started bidding coe. True that u secure the coe bid at a cheap price . But what if the car come 6 to 7 mths later. Wun u lose out 6 mths of ur coe? Just my 2cents worth.. happen to a few vezel friends. Bid during feb.. car till date nt here yet.

    Patrick

    Bro,

    Your buying a mass market Japanese car and not a conti car, you do not need to wait that long to get your car.

    3 to 4 months is more than sufficient to drive off with your car unless it's a new model that LTA wants to do the MTO test.

    COE for cat A and B must be used within 06 months from the day of securing, your COE would only starts to depreciate once you register your vehicle.


  • 04 August 2015 - 01:04 PM
    lach90

    Lach, I got mine from HL too. Got my car in 22 days. they gave me V7 iroad cam, leather seat, pioneer dvd bt, 3 years warranty, 6 months road tax and such..... I paid 2k more for 1 month delivery and they exceeded my expectations. Now im thinking whether I should install bodykit, getting poisoned by all the online forum photos of Vezel w bodykit!

    Anyway, my SE quite steady, he is very prompt in replying all my msgs when I was in doubt so I will definitely recommend HL and this SE. Extra money for assurance and service attitude, it was all well worthed it.

    That's a really good package IMO.

    I'll PM you to get the name of the SE !

    Bro,

    Check this FB group that was set up by people that bought a Vezel and is not moderated by any PI or SE.

    No point to join a group that is moderated by a PI / SE and delete honest comment about their practice and even barred people from that group to make it looks so damm good :-)

    https://www.facebook...RVClub/?fref=nf

    Thanks for the advice. I will join the group and take a look !


  • 04 August 2015 - 02:20 PM
    Akszaksz

    Thanks for the advice. I will join the group and take a look !

    Prepared to be poisoned... Real poisonous! [bounce1][bounce1]


  • 04 August 2015 - 03:39 PM
    happy_honda

    I booked from them End May, collecting this weekend.

    Pros:

    No worry about delivery, got stock even. Fast response from SE, no pushing

    Cons:

    Very stiff price and freebies. Charge "GST" for head unit upgrade (really sucks)

    So if you want your Vezel as soon as possible, go for them. If you can wait, there are also other reliable PIs around with much lower price

    Seems like Hup Long have great reviews by many.�

    Definitely shortlisting them.�

    My last question is probably what is the standard package I should request?�

    E.g. 3 years warranty, 2 years services, road tax, pioneer HU, camera etc ....

    Any bros care to share what their PI offered with their purchase?

    It will be better if its with Hup Long ! I got a good feeling they will be my choice� [:)]


  • 04 August 2015 - 04:43 PM
    Iceshelterx

    Need some clarification on the booking...

    So we need to down payment 40-50% or just put deposit first?


  • 04 August 2015 - 05:02 PM
    happy_honda

    Need some clarification on the booking...

    So we need to down payment 40-50% or just put deposit first?

    10K for COE bidding, another 0~10K for booking deposit

    40%~50% down payment to PI? Big No


  • 04 August 2015 - 05:04 PM
    daddygalaxy

    Need some clarification on the booking...

    So we need to down payment 40-50% or just put deposit first?

    Typically $10k first for PI to bid COE.

    Rest of balance payment : 1 week or 3 days before PI register car (i.e collect car)


  • 04 August 2015 - 05:24 PM
    Nichi

    Need some clarification on the booking...

    So we need to down payment 40-50% or just put deposit first?

    For mine its just 10k deposit.

    the remainder of the downpayment at a later period when the car is ready


  • 04 August 2015 - 05:32 PM
    Sl8ker

    Hi all just traded in my audi a4 for a vezel as my audi was giving me gearbox issues collecting car after NDP what shld i do i paid 107500 for a vezel S�


  • 04 August 2015 - 05:44 PM
    Akszaksz

    Hi all just traded in my audi a4 for a vezel as my audi was giving me gearbox issues collecting car after NDP what shld i do i paid 107500 for a vezel S�

    Hmm.. not very clear on what your question is on "what should I do?"... are you saying you have paid 107500 upfront before car collection? :a-panic:


  • 04 August 2015 - 06:30 PM
    Andyngps

    Hi all just traded in my audi a4 for a vezel as my audi was giving me gearbox issues collecting car after NDP what shld i do i paid 107500 for a vezel S�


    107.5k is a good price for S if it's guaranteed bids abd delivery date.
  • 04 August 2015 - 08:36 PM
    Chjas


    Lach, I got mine from HL too. Got my car in 22 days. they gave me V7 iroad cam, leather seat, pioneer dvd bt, 3 years warranty, 6 months road tax and such..... I paid 2k more for 1 month delivery and they exceeded my expectations. Now im thinking whether I should install bodykit, getting poisoned by all the online forum photos of Vezel w bodykit!
    Anyway, my SE quite steady, he is very prompt in replying all my msgs when I was in doubt so I will definitely recommend HL and this SE. Extra money for assurance and service attitude, it was all well worthed it.


    Mid july when i was shopping for Vezel, HL's vezel in showroom were not the improved version.

    Anyway, end of the day, i signed with another PI, hope delivery in end Sept as written on SA.
  • 04 August 2015 - 09:56 PM
    Vinzntonic

    107.5k is a good price for S if it's guaranteed bids abd delivery date.

    Maybe he book from JDM?


  • 04 August 2015 - 10:08 PM
    Sl8ker

    Hmm.. not very clear on what your question is on "what should I do?"... are you saying you have paid 107500 upfront before car collection? :a-panic:

    hi bro no i ment as in what do i do in terms of checking as i have not owned a jap car since awhile now ,

    and yes paid 107.5k for vezel S 2 bids gtee COE


  • 04 August 2015 - 10:45 PM
    Bonjoey

    hi bro no i ment as in what do i do in terms of checking as i have not owned a jap car since awhile now ,

    and yes paid 107.5k for vezel S 2 bids gtee COE


    From which PI?
  • 04 August 2015 - 11:04 PM
    lach90

    hi bro no i ment as in what do i do in terms of checking as i have not owned a jap car since awhile now ,

    and yes paid 107.5k for vezel S 2 bids gtee COE

    107.5k is unbelievably low for Vezel S.

    Care to share which dealer you got from ?


  • 04 August 2015 - 11:05 PM
    menace66
    Hi guys,

    I am on the verge of signing up for a new Vezel. I have narrowed down my choices to JDM and Auto Selection. The reason is purely based on prices. They are both selling at $104,8xx guaranteed COE without topups.

    I have a better feel at Auto Selection. The place seems nice and professional. Freebies are printed out so there are no inconsistencies. Not sure though if they are willing to give out more if requested. And it seems that their business is quite good. Always have to wait my turn to get tended to both times i am there. The only negative is that their COE rebate is at $48k whereas JDM is at $50.8k.

    However, I am leaning towards JDM for the higher rebate value since we are in a falling COE environment right now. Sales lady also said she can give me more extras once i am very sure about signing. I have been reading up on FB and here and found quite a fair bit of warnings abt JDM. I read abt one FB user's bad experience but are all experiences with them the same?

    Anyone has any thoughts or experiences pls share to enlighten me b4 its too late... After which my wife will kill me if anything goes wrong. LoL.

    Edited by menace66, 04 August 2015 - 11:06 PM.

  • 04 August 2015 - 11:18 PM
    menace66

    hi bro no i ment as in what do i do in terms of checking as i have not owned a jap car since awhile now ,

    and yes paid 107.5k for vezel S 2 bids gtee COE


    Looking thru sgcarmart, only Jiayi advertised at this price. 2 bid guaranteed COE but I believe definitely there should be top ups i assume? Maybe their Cat A COE level is very low?
  • 04 August 2015 - 11:22 PM
    noobydoo

    Hi guys,

    I am on the verge of signing up for a new Vezel. I have narrowed down my choices to JDM and Auto Selection. The reason is purely based on prices. They are both selling at $104,8xx guaranteed COE without topups.

    I have a better feel at Auto Selection. The place seems nice and professional. Freebies are printed out so there are no inconsistencies. Not sure though if they are willing to give out more if requested. And it seems that their business is quite good. Always have to wait my turn to get tended to both times i am there. The only negative is that their COE rebate is at $48k whereas JDM is at $50.8k.

    However, I am leaning towards JDM for the higher rebate value since we are in a falling COE environment right now. Sales lady also said she can give me more extras once i am very sure about signing. I have been reading up on FB and here and found quite a fair bit of warnings abt JDM. I read abt one FB user's bad experience but are all experiences with them the same?

    Anyone has any thoughts or experiences pls share to enlighten me b4 its too late... After which my wife will kill me if anything goes wrong. LoL.

    I also intend to get my Vezel soon. But from what I research so far low COE rebate is a big no no as the PI will drag your COE bidding in order to maximise their profits. They probably will wait until the COE drop�until closest to the rebate value then they bid for you?


  • 04 August 2015 - 11:37 PM
    menace66


    I also intend to get my Vezel soon. But from what I research so far low COE rebate is a big no no as the PI will drag your COE bidding in order to maximise their profits. They probably will wait until the COE drop�until closest to the rebate value then they bid for you?

    Yes. That is probably gonna be the case. To maximise profits or to be sure they have a vehicle for the COE before bidding. I was told that when the bidding will be done is not fixed. They will most likely only start bidding once they are sure ur car is otw or alrdy arrived in SG especially jow when COE is on the downtrend. This is not an issue for me as long as the car is delivered on time.

    To me buying a car from a PI is just buying which package suits urself the most. This encompasses ur own risk appetite. Guaranteed or non guaranteed. Rebate levels. Top up levels. Etc etc. For myself personally, i do not want to take the risk of topping up more after planning my finances for a certain price. So i pass on the risk to the dealer and sleep better at night.

    Edited by menace66, 04 August 2015 - 11:41 PM.

  • 04 August 2015 - 11:54 PM
    Andyngps


    Maybe he book from JDM?


    Oh...hope it is not too good to be true...
  • 05 August 2015 - 12:05 AM
    menace66

    Oh...hope it is not too good to be true...


    My hunch is dat trade in car is taken at a very low price(at least 5k less than other dealers) so can sell Vezel S at a low price as well. No such thing as a free lunch. 107.5k for a Vezel S is definitely an impossible price.
  • 05 August 2015 - 03:14 AM
    rovwei


    Congrat on your new ride.

    Paying $2k-$3K above normal price and get in return a vid cam is quite worth it.


    Vid cam cost more than 2-3k? I think at most $ 300.
  • 05 August 2015 - 05:28 AM
    trajet2b

    Vid cam cost more than 2-3k? I think at most $ 300.

    I am sorry i think you misses the poster point. The way I see it.

    the main thing is "I got my Vezel delivered to me after 22 days which the contract wrote 1 month guaranteed COE, no top up or rebate."�

    the car cam was an additional gift.

    Its is not 2-3K extra for the cam.

    you try getting cheapest vezel in 22 days? �see can get or not?


  • 05 August 2015 - 06:01 AM
    Eaton

    My hunch is dat trade in car is taken at a very low price(at least 5k less than other dealers) so can sell Vezel S at a low price as well. No such thing as a free lunch. 107.5k for a Vezel S is definitely an impossible price.

    ????????
  • 05 August 2015 - 07:50 AM
    menace66

    Hi guys,

    I am on the verge of signing up for a new Vezel. I have narrowed down my choices to JDM and Auto Selection. The reason is purely based on prices. They are both selling at $104,8xx guaranteed COE without topups.

    I have a better feel at Auto Selection. The place seems nice and professional. Freebies are printed out so there are no inconsistencies. Not sure though if they are willing to give out more if requested. And it seems that their business is quite good. Always have to wait my turn to get tended to both times i am there. The only negative is that their COE rebate is at $48k whereas JDM is at $50.8k.

    However, I am leaning towards JDM for the higher rebate value since we are in a falling COE environment right now. Sales lady also said she can give me more extras once i am very sure about signing. I have been reading up on FB and here and found quite a fair bit of warnings abt JDM. I read abt one FB user's bad experience but are all experiences with them the same?

    Anyone has any thoughts or experiences pls share to enlighten me b4 its too late... After which my wife will kill me if anything goes wrong. LoL.


    Nobody care to comment? Another point to note is that ppl keep saying JDM's price is too good. Which in my post above i already rebutted koz Auto Selection is selling at the same price. Hope some of the fellow forummers can come fw to share their experiences with either dealers to save my ass from a mistake. Thanks in advance. :)
  • 05 August 2015 - 08:05 AM
    trajet2b

    Nobody care to comment? Another point to note is that ppl keep saying JDM's price is too good. Which in my post above i already rebutted koz Auto Selection is selling at the same price. Hope some of the fellow forummers can come fw to share their experiences with either dealers to save my ass from a mistake. Thanks in advance. :)

    bro,�

    go join this group.�

    https://www.facebook...SGVezelHRVClub/

    There seems to be some dispute with some buyers.�

    Not all treated equally. Got one buyer receive his car in dirty condition, very low on petrol and without HU. In other words car not ready for handover. Quite a few got other surprises....delays...etc


  • 05 August 2015 - 09:15 AM
    Sl8ker

    to all brothers , i traded in my audi a4 at a below market value of 90k hence why my vezel s is at 107.5 k and i bought from vincar and its after many many many persuasions and nego to this price selling price was 112.5k

    also why am i restricted till i get 8 more approved post ? how do i get an approved post may anyone assist ?


  • 05 August 2015 - 09:31 AM
    Akszaksz

    to all brothers , i traded in my audi a4 at a below market value of 90k hence why my vezel s is at 107.5 k and i bought from vincar and its after many many many persuasions and nego to this price selling price was 112.5k

    also why am i restricted till i get 8 more approved post ? how do i get an approved post may anyone assist ?

    The approved post also confused me initially.

    It actually just referring to normal post, no one to approve. haha.

    Anyway, once you have post count of 10 or more, the restriction is lifted.


  • 05 August 2015 - 09:35 AM
    Sl8ker

    but it states is have 2 more post for today lols so guess i am left with one after this�


  • 05 August 2015 - 09:43 AM
    Akszaksz

    but it states is have 2 more post for today lols so guess i am left with one after this�

    I suggest u use the 1 left today, then tmr u use another 5.

    Then no more restriction for ya. lol


  • 05 August 2015 - 10:22 AM
    Honker

    I am sorry i think you misses the poster point. The way I see it.

    the main thing is "I got my Vezel delivered to me after 22 days which the contract wrote 1 month guaranteed COE, no top up or rebate."�

    the car cam was an additional gift.

    Its is not 2-3K extra for the cam.

    you try getting cheapest vezel in 22 days? �see can get or not?

    �I paid 2 - 3k more for 1 month delivery instead having to wait for 3 months. The vid cam is a freebie for me to seal off the deal.


    Nobody care to comment? Another point to note is that ppl keep saying JDM's price is too good. Which in my post above i already rebutted koz Auto Selection is selling at the same price. Hope some of the fellow forummers can come fw to share their experiences with either dealers to save my ass from a mistake. Thanks in advance. :)

    Mate, join the FB vezel forum and you will understand why nobody commenting on JDM and Auto. Seems like some of our fellow members over there having problems with delivery.


  • 05 August 2015 - 10:30 AM
    lach90

    Nobody care to comment? Another point to note is that ppl keep saying JDM's price is too good. Which in my post above i already rebutted koz Auto Selection is selling at the same price. Hope some of the fellow forummers can come fw to share their experiences with either dealers to save my ass from a mistake. Thanks in advance. :)

    I did�a detailed calculation on Hup Long vs JDM and here's my opinion.

    Hup Long prices�is about $4k pricier than JDM - however they also offered $3k higher trade-in value for my current ride.

    So essentially its�only $1000 premium.

    Also Hup Long has�1 month delivery package for additional $2k, which kinda makes sense to take considering�the trade-in�value for my current ride will also drop by $2k�if I opt for the 3 month delivery package.��

    So I guess it boils down to your risk appetite and urgency.

    While delivery period is not crucial for me,�I still�consider Hup Long the winner at the moment (rather pay slightly more for its reputation).

    Might head down this weekend to talk to them and find out more.

    Just�2 cents.�Good luck bro !


  • 05 August 2015 - 10:39 AM
    Nav14

    I did�a detailed calculation on Hup Long vs JDM and here's my opinion.

    Hup Long prices�is about $4k pricier than JDM - however they also offered $3k higher trade-in value for my current ride.

    So essentially its�only $1000 premium.

    Also Hup Long has�1 month delivery package for additional $2k, which kinda makes sense to take considering�the trade-in�value for my current ride will also drop by $2k�if I opt for the 3 month delivery package.��

    So I guess it boils down to your risk appetite and urgency.

    While delivery period is not crucial for me,�I still�consider Hup Long the winner at the moment (rather pay slightly more for its reputation).

    Might head down this weekend to talk to them and find out more.

    Just�2 cents.�Good luck bro !

    I am amazed why people are trading in their cars with dealers where they buy their new cars from. Unless it is due for scrap where the price offered will make little difference or the extra in extremely bad condition. Otherwise, anyone who wants to make an extra few thousand and and which they feel woulld be useful extra money for themselves, then should take the trouble to sell it themselves. Just a simple ad in SgCarmart , and one will be a few thousand dollars richer.


  • 05 August 2015 - 10:58 AM
    Yellogorilla

    Noob here (can see the post count). I had booked an X and waiting for delivery.

    Like some of the folks here, trying to get the best deal, worried about the reliability of the PI etc ...

    Other than reading the posts here, FB group, vezel-hrv club, I also visited the showrooms and called the dealers to save some legwork.

    Generally, IMO different strokes for different folks, so the best deal is really subjective (The ultimate deal high COE rebate, gteed COE, lowest price and immediate stock. Sorry! can't find!).

    Writing off the dealer based on some bad comments might be too quick to judge considering this is a dog-eat-dog industry, using trolls to badmouth competitors are highly possible. Likewise, good comments gave a slight nudge towards the dealer but does not mean they are 100% reliable.

    Call, visit, call, visit, call, visit, visit, more visits, decides.


  • 05 August 2015 - 11:44 AM
    Sean73

    Noob here (can see the post count). I had booked an X and waiting for delivery.

    Like some of the folks here, trying to get the best deal, worried about the reliability of the PI etc ...

    Other than reading the posts here, FB group, vezel-hrv club, I also visited the showrooms and called the dealers to save some legwork.

    Generally, IMO different strokes for different folks, so the best deal is really subjective (The ultimate deal high COE rebate, gteed COE, lowest price and immediate stock. Sorry! can't find!).

    Writing off the dealer based on some bad comments might be too quick to judge considering this is a dog-eat-dog industry, using trolls to badmouth competitors are highly possible. Likewise, good comments gave a slight nudge towards the dealer but does not mean they are 100% reliable.

    Call, visit, call, visit, call, visit, visit, more visits, decides.

    Yes, there are bound to be trolls around in this forum or others.

    The best is to join meet ups not arranged by PI or SE then u will get to know whether are there any truth or not.


  • 05 August 2015 - 12:04 PM
    Sl8ker

    most important is what PI or SE promise and read the fine print on the COE as according to JDM one bid garuntee but when they bid is another story all together�


  • 05 August 2015 - 01:13 PM
    happy_honda

    I am amazed why people are trading in their cars with dealers where they buy their new cars from. Unless it is due for scrap where the price offered will make little difference or the extra in extremely bad condition. Otherwise, anyone who wants to make an extra few thousand and and which they feel woulld be useful extra money for themselves, then should take the trouble to sell it themselves. Just a simple ad in SgCarmart , and one will be a few thousand dollars richer.

    fully agree about the trade-in

    My lesson: I trade in my 1 year + jazz for 15K and the dealer even so thick faced to ask me top up my roadtax, which is due more than one month later

    then I saw their are advertising the car for 26K+ on Sgcarmart...So you know how much profit they are getting


  • 05 August 2015 - 01:26 PM
    Spring

    I am amazed why people are trading in their cars with dealers where they buy their new cars from. Unless it is due for scrap where the price offered will make little difference or the extra in extremely bad condition. Otherwise, anyone who wants to make an extra few thousand and and which they feel woulld be useful extra money for themselves, then should take the trouble to sell it themselves. Just a simple ad in SgCarmart , and one will be a few thousand dollars richer.

    You have a point on selling your own car�in sgcarmart to get better prices.

    That said, some dealers esp ADs will give you an overtrade for your ride and even though they quote you lower, the overtrade more than makes up for the lower price quoted. You will not be able get this difference if you got no car to trade in eg Your car worth $30k, they give you a $5k overtrade but value your car only at $28k so take in your car at $33k so you still better off by $3k.

    However, this may not be applicable for PIs


  • 05 August 2015 - 01:37 PM
    lach90

    I am amazed why people are trading in their cars with dealers where they buy their new cars from. Unless it is due for scrap where the price offered will make little difference or the extra in extremely bad condition. Otherwise, anyone who wants to make an extra few thousand and and which they feel woulld be useful extra money for themselves, then should take the trouble to sell it themselves. Just a simple ad in SgCarmart , and one will be a few thousand dollars richer.

    You are absolutely right that selling the car myself fetches a much better price.

    Initially I was worried that the paperwork would be a hassle but found out that Sgcarmart has a service to settle it for both parties

    Thanks for the advice!


    fully agree about the trade-in

    My lesson: I trade in my 1 year + jazz for 15K and the dealer even so thick faced to ask me top up my roadtax, which is due more than one month later

    then I saw their are advertising the car for 26K+ on Sgcarmart...So you know how much profit they are getting

    :o:o :o��


  • 05 August 2015 - 02:00 PM
    Akszaksz

    I am amazed why people are trading in their cars with dealers where they buy their new cars from. Unless it is due for scrap where the price offered will make little difference or the extra in extremely bad condition. Otherwise, anyone who wants to make an extra few thousand and and which they feel woulld be useful extra money for themselves, then should take the trouble to sell it themselves. Just a simple ad in SgCarmart , and one will be a few thousand dollars richer.

    Just to share why I trade-in my car to PI which i will be getting new car from them.

    No doubt direct selling can fetch better price and SGcarmart even offered services to complete the transaction. But for my case the estimated delivery date for new car is nov/dec.

    Most PI/Dealer quoted from 54K to 65K for my car. (Note: my car is a 3 owner car)

    I cannot afford to have down time. From the market price & what other owners or dealers are selling (2 owner car). it's about 66k to 69k.

    Some dealers even scared to take in my car as the hand over is ard December. Even if I can sell at 68K now, but if i sell it later due to the handover date, definitely I can't sell it for 68K.

    Signing a SA & PA from the PI, i managed to lock the price for my new & old car. Might not be good news for New car if COE dipped alot. But at least got a COE Rebate at 52K. But definitely good and likely hassle-free for locking the price of my old car.

    So i guess it's up to individual scenario & expectation?


    Edited by Akszaksz, 05 August 2015 - 02:01 PM.

  • 05 August 2015 - 02:46 PM
    Andyngps

    I am amazed why people are trading in their cars with dealers where they buy their new cars from. Unless it is due for scrap where the price offered will make little difference or the extra in extremely bad condition. Otherwise, anyone who wants to make an extra few thousand and and which they feel woulld be useful extra money for themselves, then should take the trouble to sell it themselves. Just a simple ad in SgCarmart , and one will be a few thousand dollars richer.


    For 1:1 exchange and it may be safer sometimes if say the pi cannot deliver. At least you still have your ride.
  • 05 August 2015 - 03:25 PM
    Bonjoey

    bro,�

    go join this group.�

    https://www.facebook...SGVezelHRVClub/

    There seems to be some dispute with some buyers.�

    Not all treated equally. Got one buyer receive his car in dirty condition, very low on petrol and without HU. In other words car not ready for handover. Quite a few got other surprises....delays...etc


    I joined the group only to be bombarded by pis messages.
  • 05 August 2015 - 03:52 PM
    Penknife

    I am amazed why people are trading in their cars with dealers where they buy their new cars from. Unless it is due for scrap where the price offered will make little difference or the extra in extremely bad condition. Otherwise, anyone who wants to make an extra few thousand and and which they feel woulld be useful extra money for themselves, then should take the trouble to sell it themselves. Just a simple ad in SgCarmart , and one will be a few thousand dollars richer.

    my car is due for scrap soon, Nov 2015.

    so it doesn't make sense if i sell it to a direct buyer.�


  • 05 August 2015 - 04:24 PM
    Cumzilla

    wonder why so many ppl like to choose white, on the road so far i had seen is black twice, blue once, the rest all whites, ratio shd be a whopping 9 : 1 !!! [speechless]


  • 05 August 2015 - 04:37 PM
    LYC

    wonder why so many ppl like to choose white, on the road so far i had seen is black twice, blue once, the rest all whites, ratio shd be a whopping 9 : 1 !!! [speechless]

    but i thought white improved model now no stock? haha


  • 05 August 2015 - 04:45 PM
    Cumzilla

    but i thought white improved model now no stock? haha

    those are old whites, now improved whites out of stock, so next time old whites + new whites�= MORE whites!!! [speechless]��


  • 05 August 2015 - 04:46 PM
    Akszaksz

    wonder why so many ppl like to choose white, on the road so far i had seen is black twice, blue once, the rest all whites, ratio shd be a whopping 9 : 1 !!! [speechless]

    White is nice, but personally won't go for white.

    Reason:

    • Will be lazy to maintain/wash/polish. (New car will wash often, but number of washing depreciate together with the car's age, lol)
    • Not the type of person who will spend alot on keeping the cosmetic shine shine, or respray.
    • If no maintain, will be just like the colour of the yellowish-with after 5-7 years white cars that you see on the road now.
    • Despite lazy to wash, see dirty liao mood also not good, haha.

    Unless I know I will change car before the age goes 5 yr old, otherwise i'm not in for white.

    But that's just me, haha!


  • 05 August 2015 - 04:47 PM
    LYC

    those are old whites, now improved whites out of stock, so next time old whites + new whites�= MORE whites!!! [speechless]��

    hahahaha. I'm contributing to the new whites. Bought white coz my previous car also white.


  • 05 August 2015 - 05:14 PM
    Kar_lover

    You have a point on selling your own car�in sgcarmart to get better prices.

    That said, some dealers esp ADs will give you an overtrade for your ride and even though they quote you lower, the overtrade more than makes up for the lower price quoted. You will not be able get this difference if you got no car to trade in eg Your car worth $30k, they give you a $5k overtrade but value your car only at $28k so take in your car at $33k so you still better off by $3k.

    However, this may not be applicable for PIs

    But sometimes selling car direct to buyer also troublesome as buyer need to source own loan, then need to go LTA do transfer, etc etc. You will also meet low-baller, story-teller, aeroplane pilot and all the other kind of pattern.�And�also there is the possibility that�after a few days/weeks/mnths down the road, buyer start harassing you saying this spoil, that missing, etc etc etc. Whereas if you sell to dealer - it is a clean break. No trouble no hassle. So earn a few thousand less but a lot more convenience�may be ok for some.


  • 05 August 2015 - 05:15 PM
    happy_honda

    but i thought white improved model now no stock? haha

    Mine is improved white, to be collected this Friday...


  • 05 August 2015 - 05:18 PM
    Nav14

    But sometimes selling car direct to buyer also troublesome as buyer need to source own loan, then need to go LTA do transfer, etc etc. You will also meet low-baller, story-teller, aeroplane pilot and all the other kind of pattern.�And�also there is the possibility that�after a few days/weeks/mnths down the road, buyer start harassing you saying this spoil, that missing, etc etc etc. Whereas if you sell to dealer - it is a clean break. No trouble no hassle. So earn a few thousand less but a lot more convenience�may be ok for some.

    Not necessarily sell to direct seller but opening up to more dealers ,where some of the more aggressive ones can still offer you a few thousand more than the second hand car dealers linked to the new car dealers.


  • 05 August 2015 - 05:32 PM
    Kar_lover

    Not necessarily sell to direct seller but opening up to more dealers ,where some of the more aggressive ones can still offer you a few thousand more than the second hand car dealers linked to the new car dealers.

    Oh but one problem is other dealer will want your car soon, if not�on the spot.�Trading in with the dealer you get your new car from ensures a smooth transition from one car to the other.


  • 05 August 2015 - 11:21 PM
    menace66
    COE results are out. Based on new COE, checking with my 2 narrowed down dealers, price are as follows.

    JDM: 105,888. Guaranteed COE no topups. Rebate at 53k.

    Auto Selection: 104,800. Guaranteed COE no topups. Rebate at 48k.

    After speaking to both on the phone, I have decided to sign with Auto Selection. My decision based on the fact that JDM is not so upfront when I asked abt the price. Its advertised as 104,888 but was only told it was non-guaranteed COE when I asked. Add $1k for guaranteed no topups. So just this non-upfront approach was enough to sway me elsewhere.

    Just sharing my experience. I prefer straight forward ppl that are transparent.
  • 06 August 2015 - 12:03 AM
    Erykool
    So in summary can I say that when going to visit a pi show room should ask the following

    1. Price
    2. Coe rebate amount
    3. Guaranteed Coe with or without top up?
    4. How many bids? And in how many months?
    5. Expected delivery date or ready stock Sale?
    6. List of accessories or freebies?
    7. Warranty?
    8. Refund of deposit takes how long if dun wan top up or non guaranteed.

    Doing a checklist and dun wan to miss anything out...
  • 06 August 2015 - 12:16 AM
    menace66

    So in summary can I say that when going to visit a pi show room should ask the following

    1. Price
    2. Coe rebate amount
    3. Guaranteed Coe with or without top up?
    4. How many bids? And in how many months?
    5. Expected delivery date or ready stock Sale?
    6. List of accessories or freebies?
    7. Warranty?
    8. Refund of deposit takes how long if dun wan top up or non guaranteed.

    Doing a checklist and dun wan to miss anything out...

    Yes. Should ask about all these but more importantly, it should be stated in the sales agreement. It should also state the compensation agreed upon for late delivery.

    Edited by menace66, 06 August 2015 - 12:17 AM.

  • 06 August 2015 - 02:54 AM
    Vampalienx

    COE results are out. Based on new COE, checking with my 2 narrowed down dealers, price are as follows.

    JDM: 105,888. Guaranteed COE no topups. Rebate at 53k.

    Auto Selection: 104,800. Guaranteed COE no topups. Rebate at 48k.

    After speaking to both on the phone, I have decided to sign with Auto Selection. My decision based on the fact that JDM is not so upfront when I asked abt the price. Its advertised as 104,888 but was only told it was non-guaranteed COE when I asked. Add $1k for guaranteed no topups. So just this non-upfront approach was enough to sway me elsewhere.

    Just sharing my experience. I prefer straight forward ppl that are transparent.

    Bro menace66,�

    did u really sign on the dot with Auto Selection already?

    Base on the price you given it seems like car price it self is already $56,888 after deducting actual paid price of $104,800 - $48,000(coe rebate).

    Did the SA indicate date of confirmed delivery of your car or estimated date only?

    Cos' my concern is unless nex coe price hovers close to 48-50k than maybe ur PI might secure the COE bid for you.. anything above that they might hang till the very last hope.

    If you yet to sign on the line... try hunting around with more comparism before commiting.

    Just sharing my 2cent observations. All the best� [:)]


    Edited by Vampalienx, 06 August 2015 - 02:55 AM.

  • 06 August 2015 - 06:53 AM
    Andyngps

    wonder why so many ppl like to choose white, on the road so far i had seen is black twice, blue once, the rest all whites, ratio shd be a whopping 9 : 1 !!! [speechless]


    White is popular in SG. Personally i feel white looks bigger.
  • 06 August 2015 - 07:49 AM
    menace66


    Bro menace66,�

    did u really sign on the dot with Auto Selection already?

    Base on the price you given it seems like car price it self is already $56,888 after deducting actual paid price of $104,800 - $48,000(coe rebate).

    Did the SA indicate date of confirmed delivery of your car or estimated date only?

    Cos' my concern is unless nex coe price hovers close to 48-50k than maybe ur PI might secure the COE bid for you.. anything above that they might hang till the very last hope.

    If you yet to sign on the line... try hunting around with more comparism before commiting.

    Just sharing my 2cent observations. All the best� [:)]


    Hi bro,

    Will be signing today. And will try to get a confirmed delivery date. I have looked ard quite a lot. Since I am not a risk taker, i wanted the guranteed COE no topups package. And from that, the best offer will be from JDM. But since there has been some bad reviews and from my experience with dem I have decided against it.

    From the way I see it, prices are all pretty much the same. Its juz where the risk is allocated to. I have a good feel at Auto Selection so will go with dat. Contractually they are supposed to get the COE no matter what, so it does not bother me when they will bid for it. And yes, I agree they will probably not bid as long as there is a chance to get COE lower and closer to the $48k rebate value.

    Either way, whichever COE package we opt for, there will be pros and cons. Juz a matter of which one we prefer. Cheers. :)
  • 06 August 2015 - 08:08 AM
    Octopus

    Hi all, I have some questions on Vezel...

    1)� The LED headlights is there a light bulb inside? In case light spoilt can it be replaces like typical halogen headlight?

    2)� Does the LED headlight do hi-beam as well? Hi-beam from the same twin square projector lense?

    3)� How is the visiability of LED headlight from the driver's point of view? Is it consider as good as HID projector headlight?

    4)� The rear lights I noticed that the portion on the boot lid does not light up? Shouldn't there be LED lights at that portion as well? Cos I saw those light-tubes ones (not available locally) both the boot lid portion and the stationery portion lighted same time.


  • 06 August 2015 - 08:16 AM
    menace66
    A question that I have if any experts can answer, if I opt for guaranteed COE, no topups in the SA.

    What will happen in case the dealer fails to bid for my COE within the stipulated delivery date of my car and ends up in a non-delivery?

    Is the dealer liable for any compensation due to me since it is clearly stated it is "guaranteed"?

    Edited by menace66, 06 August 2015 - 08:18 AM.

  • 06 August 2015 - 08:56 AM
    Kaicar

    wonder why so many ppl like to choose white, on the road so far i had seen is black twice, blue once, the rest all whites, ratio shd be a whopping 9 : 1 !!! [speechless]

    To me white Vezel look elegant and bigger in size. As to maintain the cleanness of a white car is totally impossible to me [thumbsdown]

    So I chosen blue. [sleeping]


  • 06 August 2015 - 08:59 AM
    jhtm71

    Just checking whether has anybody�gotten the new "S Model" with the Nano aircon and improved rear suspension. I was supposed to have this in July but till now, my PI is not replying on the delivery date.


  • 06 August 2015 - 09:13 AM
    Nav14

    Oh but one problem is other dealer will want your car soon, if not�on the spot.�Trading in with the dealer you get your new car from ensures a smooth transition from one car to the other.

    Advertise when your new car is about to be ready. I am amazed that� if 2-3k difference in price of a new car can have an impact on making a decision to buya car, why not indulging in extra legwork to sell your existing car on your own for an extra 2-3k?�

    I have been monitoring the bids by dealers on the "auction" feature at Sgcarmart and some of the bids for well kept cars can be close to asking prices of the same car by other second hand car dealers, even if one does not want to go through the trouble of selling to a direct buyer.


  • 06 August 2015 - 09:18 AM
    Akszaksz

    To me white Vezel look elegant and bigger in size. As to maintain the cleanness of a white car is totally impossible to me [thumbsdown]

    So I chosen blue. [sleeping]

    same sentiments!


  • 06 August 2015 - 09:43 AM
    menace66

    Advertise when your new car is about to be ready. I am amazed that� if 2-3k difference in price of a new car can have an impact on making a decision to buya car, why not indulging in extra legwork to sell your existing car on your own for an extra 2-3k?�
    I have been monitoring the bids by dealers on the "auction" feature at Sgcarmart and some of the bids for well kept cars can be close to asking prices of the same car by other second hand car dealers, even if one does not want to go through the trouble of selling to a direct buyer.


    I asked almost every Vezel dealet with a good package about trade in price of my current car. Best offer was from Auto Selection which offered 4k more than any other dealers. 1 to 1 exchange with new car upon delivery.

    This offer was only 1k less than the eventual deal which I settled for selling my car on sgcarmart to another 2nd hand dealer which alrdy had a buyer in hand. Juz fyi for those looking to trade in their cars.
  • 06 August 2015 - 09:56 AM
    Akszaksz

    I asked almost every Vezel dealet with a good package about trade in price of my current car. Best offer was from Auto Selection which offered 4k more than any other dealers. 1 to 1 exchange with new car upon delivery.

    This offer was only 1k less than the eventual deal which I settled for selling my car on sgcarmart to another 2nd hand dealer which alrdy had a buyer in hand. Juz fyi for those looking to trade in their cars.

    Ya. And if you tell the 2nd hand dealer that u can only hand-over by Nov/Dec (Assuming that's the estimated delivery of your new vezel), most likely they will either downsize the offer or they will give it a pass.

    Also in such situation, difficult to direct sell as most buyer would not want to wait till nov/dec then get your car. Of coz you can try selling when dates are nearer, but depreciation does not stop & wait for you.


  • 06 August 2015 - 11:09 AM
    menace66

    A question that I have if any experts can answer, if I opt for guaranteed COE, no topups in the SA.

    What will happen in case the dealer fails to bid for my COE within the stipulated delivery date of my car and ends up in a non-delivery?

    Is the dealer liable for any compensation due to me since it is clearly stated it is "guaranteed"?


    Anyone can help with this question? Thanks in advance. :)
  • 06 August 2015 - 11:15 AM
    Akszaksz

    Anyone can help with this question? Thanks in advance. :)

    I'm a newbie here too (Getting new car for my 1st time)

    So correct me if i'm wrong.

    Your PI will bear the top up since yours is a "without topup" package.

    They either use Open Cat, or higher bids for Cat A in next bidding, And make sure you can get the COE before car delivery.

    Some PI bids for COE in their own company name, not sure whether those are use for such situation when they can't secure COE for those 1 gtd bid without topup.


  • 06 August 2015 - 11:34 AM
    Dino-Lee

    So in summary can I say that when going to visit a pi show room should ask the following

    1. Price
    2. Coe rebate amount
    3. Guaranteed Coe with or without top up?
    4. How many bids? And in how many months?
    5. Expected delivery date or ready stock Sale?
    6. List of accessories or freebies?
    7. Warranty?
    8. Refund of deposit takes how long if dun wan top up or non guaranteed.

    Doing a checklist and dun wan to miss anything out...

    These are very good points. Just to add that it is also important to understand if the PI is a direct importer. I have not experience it myself (touch wood) but a couple of PI told me that during recall,�if your car is affected, the direct importers are required by LTA to fix it, even if after warranty period. If the PI is a direct importer, they will be able to show you the Bill of Landing of the vehicles. �


  • 06 August 2015 - 11:42 AM
    Penknife

    anyone has any experience with Emperor Motors?�


  • 06 August 2015 - 02:18 PM
    Dscheng

    To me white Vezel look elegant and bigger in size. As to maintain the cleanness of a white car is totally impossible to me [thumbsdown]

    So I chosen blue. [sleeping]

    Actually white is not so hard to maintan le. I still think that Black colour is worst.. imagine the after rain white spot on black surface.

    Btw that purple blue also nice on vezel. But i still prefer white la. Individual preference.�


  • 06 August 2015 - 02:40 PM
    daddygalaxy

    So in summary can I say that when going to visit a pi show room should ask the following

    1. Price
    2. Coe rebate amount
    3. Guaranteed Coe with or without top up?
    4. How many bids? And in how many months?
    5. Expected delivery date or ready stock Sale?
    6. List of accessories or freebies?
    7. Warranty?
    8. Refund of deposit takes how long if dun wan top up or non guaranteed.

    Doing a checklist and dun wan to miss anything out...

    Repost my advise: Believe what is written only (Black & White).

    Don't care what the sales fellow tell you.....believe what they write on the sales agreement.

    Be specific....list down what you want in the agreement.

    1) Delivery date. If not.....then how? Courtesy car to drive till delivery or discount $x every week delay?

    2) All accessories promised (Yes. List all down. models number if possible)

    3) "Guaranteed COE without top up" exact words

    4) Rebate at what $ level.

    5) Number of bids..... (not so important if you already corner the PI with delivery date & guaranteed COE w/o top up)

    I considered myself lucky. Had a no-frills experience with my PI.

    PI delivered my ride as promised.....even bid higher COE for me (paper gain)� [:p]


    Edited by daddygalaxy, 06 August 2015 - 02:41 PM.

  • 06 August 2015 - 03:31 PM
    Vins

    Repost my advise: Believe what is written only (Black & White).

    Don't care what the sales fellow tell you.....believe what they write on the sales agreement.

    Be specific....list down what you want in the agreement.

    1) Delivery date. If not.....then how? Courtesy car to drive till delivery or discount $x every week delay?

    2) All accessories promised (Yes. List all down. models number if possible)

    3) "Guaranteed COE without top up" exact words

    4) Rebate at what $ level.

    5) Number of bids..... (not so important if you already corner the PI with delivery date & guaranteed COE w/o top up)

    I considered myself lucky. Had a no-frills experience with my PI.

    PI delivered my ride as promised.....even bid higher COE for me (paper gain)� [:p]

    ur so damn lucky...


  • 06 August 2015 - 04:58 PM
    ray_bat

    Here is a link to the Vezel factbook pdf from the Honda Japanese site ( It's in Japanese though ) .-�http://www.honda.co..../VEZEL_1312.pdf


  • 06 August 2015 - 06:43 PM
    noobydoo

    A question that I have if any experts can answer, if I opt for guaranteed COE, no topups in the SA.

    What will happen in case the dealer fails to bid for my COE within the stipulated delivery date of my car and ends up in a non-delivery?

    Is the dealer liable for any compensation due to me since it is clearly stated it is "guaranteed"?

    What is the delivery date that your PI promised?


  • 06 August 2015 - 06:56 PM
    menace66

    What is the delivery date that your PI promised?


    Deed has been done. Signed with Auto Selection. Delivery in Dec/Jan. Temporary car will be given in case any delay. Overall satisfied with my experience.

    Salesperson was transparent and clear. Before anything, i told them honesty is most important. I have done my homework, so best to be transparent so dat I won't lose trust in them.

    No extra freebies besides those alrdy in their list packaged with the car.


    ur so damn lucky...


    U guys make it sound as though 90% of all dealers are out to rip us apart. :(
  • 06 August 2015 - 08:27 PM
    Vampalienx

    Deed has been done. Signed with Auto Selection. Delivery in Dec/Jan. Temporary car will be given in case any delay. Overall satisfied with my experience.

    Salesperson was transparent and clear. Before anything, i told them honesty is most important. I have done my homework, so best to be transparent so dat I won't lose trust in them.

    No extra freebies besides those alrdy in their list packaged with the car.

    U guys make it sound as though 90% of all dealers are out to rip us apart. :(

    Bro menace66 congrats.. n welcome to Vezel club� [thumbsup]


  • 06 August 2015 - 08:56 PM
    menace66


    Bro menace66 congrats.. n welcome to Vezel club� [thumbsup]


    Thanks buddy. Cannot wait liao. Only been a few hrs alrdy impatient. Dunnoe how to last 4mths waiting. Haha.
  • 06 August 2015 - 09:34 PM
    Vinzntonic

    Deed has been done. Signed with Auto Selection. Delivery in Dec/Jan. Temporary car will be given in case any delay. Overall satisfied with my experience.

    Salesperson was transparent and clear. Before anything, i told them honesty is most important. I have done my homework, so best to be transparent so dat I won't lose trust in them.

    No extra freebies besides those alrdy in their list packaged with the car.

    U guys make it sound as though 90% of all dealers are out to rip us apart. :(

    What colour and model u ordered?


  • 06 August 2015 - 11:01 PM
    menace66


    What colour and model u ordered?


    Vezel X black color bro.
  • 06 August 2015 - 11:15 PM
    Imac

    A question that I have if any experts can answer, if I opt for guaranteed COE, no topups in the SA.

    What will happen in case the dealer fails to bid for my COE within the stipulated delivery date of my car and ends up in a non-delivery?

    Is the dealer liable for any compensation due to me since it is clearly stated it is "guaranteed"?

    PI will register your car using Open Cat COE.

    Don't worry for them, most of them have a few Open Cat COE on hand....if not, they will buy one from open market for you.


  • 07 August 2015 - 12:41 AM
    menace66


    PI will register your car using Open Cat COE.

    Don't worry for them, most of them have a few Open Cat COE on hand....if not, they will buy one from open market for you.


    Thanks for the reply bro. Yeah I shouldn't worry. Got the guaranteed no topup package so I can sleep well at night. Let the dealers worry abt the COE instead. :)
  • 07 August 2015 - 09:13 AM
    Vinzntonic

    Vezel X black color bro.

    Wah.. no offence to you... not a very popular color but waiting time as long as white?


  • 07 August 2015 - 09:27 AM
    Kaicar


    Wah.. no offence to you... not a very popular color but waiting time as long as white?


    Actually black also quite popular. I saw a lot on the road.
  • 07 August 2015 - 09:53 AM
    Lucille

    Deed has been done. Signed with Auto Selection. Delivery in Dec/Jan. Temporary car will be given in case any delay. Overall satisfied with my experience.

    Salesperson was transparent and clear. Before anything, i told them honesty is most important. I have done my homework, so best to be transparent so dat I won't lose trust in them.

    No extra freebies besides those alrdy in their list packaged with the car.

    U guys make it sound as though 90% of all dealers are out to rip us apart. :(


    Rip apart maybe too strong a word. Let's put it this way. They run a business. Their objective is to maximize their margin in what ever way possible. This is done hrough ethical means or otherwise. Thus, it's absolutely critical to protect yourself at all times. If not, you may just be 'ripped apart'
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