mycarforum: Honda Vezel part 67

Can share which workshop said that? I wanna make sure I don't go to them... Lol..

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http://www.autosprit...contact-us.html

I went to the Toh Guan outlet

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Go_francis, on 09 May 2015 - 4:05 PM, said:

According to the guy at the workshop, some engine parts will not last after 4th year, if we keep using RON 95 or below. Also, the could be improved mileage if we use RON 98.
I have just pumped RON98 (I last pumped RON95)... It costs me about $0.20 more per litre.

WHen I used RON95, it clocked 440KM (38L +)...
I always pump when there was still 1 bar on the petrol indicator.
Filling up a full tank from there would be 38Litres +

I will monitor the fuel comsumption.

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I would interpret the manual as "You can use premium grade gasoline but the performance of the engine does not improve significantly."

which means no difference�to improved mileage.

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Edited by trajet2b, 09 May 2015 - 07:33 PM.

According to the guy at the workshop, some engine parts will not last after 4th year, if we keep using RON 95 or below. Also, the could be improved mileage if we use RON 98.
I have just pumped RON98 (I last pumped RON95)... It costs me about $0.20 more per litre.

WHen I used RON95, it clocked 440KM (38L +)...
I always pump when there was still 1 bar on the petrol indicator.
Filling up a full tank from there would be 38Litres +
I will monitor the fuel comsumption.

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Workshop guy lied

Regular in Japan is fuel with at least 89 RON. Premium is 96 RON and above.

Ah nope. In Japan their regular gas is 92 octane, their premium gas is 100 octane. They don't hv 95 octane... And I believe these numbers are RON and not PON as used by USA and Canada.

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And both stocks are significantly cheaper than SG after currency conversion!! TMD.... #$%25'>!#$%^& Another example of living in the world's most expensive country but with 3rd world country salaries...

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Their 100 octane fuel costs ard S$1.85/L when currency rates was 70yen to S$1... today it should be even cheaper.

Hmm... The JDM Vezel can accept E10 fuel... meaning we can drive our Vezel to Thailand and use their fuel there LOL. Thailand market swears by gasohol... Even their top grade 95 octane fuel are E10.

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Most of their cars (including brand new ones) accepts E20...� which is gasoline mixed with 20% Ethanol

Ah nope. In Japan their regular gas is 92 octane, their premium gas is 100 octane. They don't hv 95 octane... And I believe these numbers are RON and not PON as used by USA and Canada.

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And both stocks are significantly cheaper than SG after currency conversion!! TMD.... #$%25'>!#$%^& Another example of living in the world's most expensive country but with 3rd world country salaries...

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Their 100 octane fuel costs ard S$1.85/L when currency rates was 70yen to S$1... today it should be even cheaper.

Hmm... The JDM Vezel can accept E10 fuel... meaning we can drive our Vezel to Thailand and use their fuel there LOL. Thailand market swears by gasohol... Even their top grade 95 octane fuel are E10.

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Most of their cars (including brand new ones) accepts E20...� which is gasoline mixed with 20% Ethanol

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please check other sites.

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wiki and a few other sites say what i have mentioned! The standards in Japan states that to classify as premium it must be greater of equal to 96RON.

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Japan: Since 1986, "regular" is >=89�RON, and "high octane" is >=96�RON, lead free. Those values are defined in standard JIS K 2202. Sometimes "high octane" is sold under different names, such as "F-1".

http://www.hkd.mlit....ku/e/e35_36.pdf

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http://www.acfa.org....ards_95_RON.pdf

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so what is usually sold is

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Regular = 90RON

High Octane = 98-100 RON

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i drive a JDM which need high octane. and i have done quite a lot so checks to determine the min RON i need to pump.

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ALL VEZELs need only Regular. thus you can pump 92RON in Singapore. But fuel efficiency wise is a different story (see JAMA paper). you need to experiment and see which is better. Min Octane is only to prevent pre ignition.

Edited by Mkl22, 11 May 2015 - 09:36 AM.

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I saw some markings, I believe this is not the marking for the solar film but for the glass�and cannot find any other marking on the film.

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i think there are no markings for solar flims. the original X tinted windows should have the markings "M2L3". This is the version that passes the LTA test. it is rumoured that the improved X will be "M?L2" that will fail LTA test.

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Not an expert in this, but wouldn't LTA be checking the car also during the inspection for carbon emission etc?

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Probably yes...

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Actually cannot totally blame them. Honda HQ would never have allowed an authorised dealer to take stock from Japan, or else their production capacity in South East Asia would be totally wasted.

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And If all that Thailand produces is the low spec and older tech HR-V, what can Kah Motors do? The same applies to Borneo as well. When PIs were selling the Wish with Valvematic engines, Borneo was still selling Dual VVT-i.

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Being an AD is sometimes like a pawn, being moved around by HQ to fight a losing battle.

For once reduce profit margin. You cannot expect to sell Thai or Indo assembled units at Japan model premium.

bros & sis Vezel owners, pls help advise... at my 1000km servicing, workshop used w40 for engine oil; so for my next servicing at 11,000km, it is recommended i get them to change to w30?

Hi Vezel owners I'm looking to buy a Vezel. Anybody got good PI sales person to recommend? PM me please.

For once reduce profit margin. You cannot expect to sell Thai or Indo assembled units at Japan model premium.

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That would be tantamount to admitting that Thai or Indo build quality not as good as Japan... which no carmakers will ever admit.

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I do agree with you and hope it happens, but I very much doubt it will. Good luck to Kah then.

bros & sis Vezel owners, pls help advise... at my 1000km servicing, workshop used w40 for engine oil; so for my next servicing at 11,000km, it is recommended i get them to change to w30?

This is something I cannot tahan know local workshop. Modern engine are make to run know w30 or even w20 oil. But many local workshop are still using w40 which is for car made 20 yrs ago. They must go and upgrade/update themselves about how much had change on the engine manufacturing.
Most Toyota and Honda JDM car are default to use w20 engine oil.

Dswm, on 11 May 2015 - 2:14 PM, said:

bros & sis Vezel owners, pls help advise... at my 1000km servicing, workshop used w40 for engine oil; so for my next servicing at 11,000km, it is recommended i get them to change to w30?

just did my 1K service. use 0W20. Engine is smooth. will monitor till next service.

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FYI Honda Malaysia is also using 0W20. Yes no typo.

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My friend Mazda 3, AD servicing also use 0W20 I was told.

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Both engines are start/stop type.

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http://www.honda.com...uine-Engine-Oil-

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http://paultan.org/2...ew-engine-oils/

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our local mech are stuck in the old era.� Now EO is API Service SN and our L15B is a new generation engine which produces low carbon emission unlike traditional engines with no CEV rebate.

Just did my first car servicing (1000km) last weekend and changed to Mobil w30 oil. Got 12 quarts at $10 each so will be using w30 at least up till 20000km. First tank of petrol since using w30 already can see about 0.5km/l improvement (30-70 highway/city), will be interesting to see how much better it will be with w20 haha

just did my 1K service. use 0W20. Engine is smooth. will monitor till next service.

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FYI Honda Malaysia is also using 0W20. Yes no typo.

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My friend Mazda 3, AD servicing also use 0W20 I was told.

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Both engines are start/stop type.

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http://www.honda.com...uine-Engine-Oil-

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http://paultan.org/2...ew-engine-oils/

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our local mech are stuck in the old era.� Now EO is API Service SN and our L15B is a new generation engine which produces low carbon emission unlike traditional engines with no CEV rebate.

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thanks, bro, for sharing.

Hi,

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Can people out there advised me how to off the idle/stop icon� "A" on our instrument panel. It is always there despite I've on the switch on the�gear panel...�

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Edited by Trol, 12 May 2015 - 09:05 AM.

bros & sis Vezel owners, pls help advise... at my 1000km servicing, workshop used w40 for engine oil; so for my next servicing at 11,000km, it is recommended i get them to change to w30?

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Bro, since you are alri using w40, no choice lah. However would suggest that you do a 5K servicing using w30. You will never regret it.

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Call your workshop in advance to request for w30 oil. If they don't have, bring your own.

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Can people out there advised me how to off the idle/stop icon� "A" on our instrument panel. It is always there despite I've on the switch on the�gear panel...�

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Bro, here is the switch to off the idling stop. It has to be press everytime you start the engine as it is auto ON during start.

Actually another way is not to fully depress the brake padel when stop (just enough to stop the car).

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Edited by Dino-Lee, 12 May 2015 - 10:22 AM.

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Bro, since you are alri using w40, no choice lah. However would suggest that you do a 5K servicing using w30. You will never regret it.

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Call your workshop in advance to request for w30 oil. If they don't have, bring your own.

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thanks for the advise. some bros are even saying use w20.

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Bro, here is the switch to off the idling stop. It has to be press everytime you start the engine as it is auto ON during start.

Actually another way is not to fully depress the brake padel when stop (just enough to stop the car).

Hi Dino,

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The "A" icon remains on despite if I presses the switch to either ON or OFF

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Today, I took out the "- battery terminal" and fixed back after 5 mins. The next issue follows

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Now, "A" icon cannot be seen in the instrumental panel despite I presses the switch to ON or OFF now�!

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I sent to the workshop using OBD 2 and scanned. No code is found !

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By the way, once we activated the electric handbrake, is there a pilot light lighted on the switches ?

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By the way, once we activated the electric handbrake, is there a pilot light lighted on the switches ?

Not on the switch itself. You will see a red parking light on your display panel.

Hi Dino,
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The "A" icon remains on despite if I presses the switch to either ON or OFF
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Today, I took out the "- battery terminal" and fixed back after 5 mins. The next issue follows
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Now, "A" icon cannot be seen in the instrumental panel despite I presses the switch to ON or OFF now�!
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I sent to the workshop using OBD 2 and scanned. No code is found !
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By the way, once we activated the electric handbrake, is there a pilot light lighted on the switches ?

The Orange A icon is the warning light for start / stop function. The green and orange icon will not light up when the engine is idling or driving. The green icon will only light up when start / stop is activated, meaning the engine cut off when you step hard on the brake when the car stop.

Not on the switch itself. You will see a red parking light on your display panel.

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Hi Trajet,

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Thanks and confirmed that you are right as I've tested my neighbour's vezel and it behaves the same...

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The one who told me that " pilot light " can be lighted on hand brake switches will be slaughtered..Hahaha

The Orange A icon is the warning light for start / stop function. The green and orange icon will not light up when the engine is idling or driving. The green icon will only light up when start / stop is activated, meaning the engine cut off when you step hard on the brake when the car stop.

�Hi, Can I say that even if we pressed the Start/Stop button on the gear shift panel, the Orange A icon will not shown in the instrumental panel ?

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The green icon, are you referring to the "ECON" ?

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Hi Dino,

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The "A" icon remains on despite if I presses the switch to either ON or OFF

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Today, I took out the "- battery terminal" and fixed back after 5 mins. The next issue follows

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Now, "A" icon cannot be seen in the instrumental panel despite I presses the switch to ON or OFF now�!

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I sent to the workshop using OBD 2 and scanned. No code is found !

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By the way, once we activated the electric handbrake, is there a pilot light lighted on the switches ?

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One more thing, I have not tried but heard other bro mentioined that once you pull out the battery, some functions will not work. It will take a couple of days for the system to "reset" back to orignal� setting. One of the function is like what you mentioned, the idling start/stop would not work. Don't worry, just leave it for a couple of days and it will come back.

�Hi, Can I say that even if we pressed the Start/Stop button on the gear shift panel, the Orange A icon will not shown in the instrumental panel ?

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The green icon, are you referring to the "ECON" ?

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Thanks

In my case the orange 'A" icon will not light up when the start / stop button is depressed, only the small led on the button is lighted up. Can someone also confirm this?

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The green "A" icon in the instrument panel will be shown when start / stop is activated.

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One more thing, I have not tried but heard other bro mentioined that once you pull out the battery, some functions will not work. It will take a couple of days for the system to "reset" back to orignal� setting. One of the function is like what you mentioned, the idling start/stop would not work. Don't worry, just leave it for a couple of days and it will come back.

I think the auto power window function for driver door with be override, have to reset by holding on to the switch to fully open and close the window.

Remember someone ever ask how to keep the HU on when off the engine. Can do so by putting the gear lever to neutral instead of park position before switching off the engine. A orange warning icon will appear on the instrument panel accompany with beep sound when you do this. It will goes off once the gear lever is put to park.

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To restart the engine just depress the brake paddle and press the start button.

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To switch turn off the HU, you have to press the start engine switch twice to turn off the HU.

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That would be tantamount to admitting that Thai or Indo build quality not as good as Japan... which no carmakers will ever admit.

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I do agree with you and hope it happens, but I very much doubt it will. Good luck to Kah then.

Statement maybe more true if we are talking about luxury models but for goodness sake Altis, Vezel, City, these models are bread and butter models. Models�targeted at mass market. Reducing profit margin MAY not be as good as admitting lower quality of Thai and Indo assembled car but to gain market share.

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So how to gain market share when you are selling these models at the same premium as JDMs? Kah are you reading this?

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One more thing, I have not tried but heard other bro mentioined that once you pull out the battery, some functions will not work. It will take a couple of days for the system to "reset" back to orignal� setting. One of the function is like what you mentioned, the idling start/stop would not work. Don't worry, just leave it for a couple of days and it will come back.

Absolutely agreed. At the moment once the negative terminal was connected, Handbrake, Stop brake icon wasn't displayed at all .Well, all gained back memory this morning....It is all ok now...

In my case the orange 'A" icon will not light up when the start / stop button is depressed, only the small led on the button is lighted up. Can someone also confirm this?

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The green "A" icon in the instrument panel will be shown when start / stop is activated.

Noted, meaning mine vezel is as normal as all of yours...Hahaha

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I hated some mechanics whom don't know and yet give wrong information !!!

hello all,

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any comments on what should be included in a contract with PI?

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essentials

final agreed price
model
features of model (need to include???)
deposit amt
payment milestones - e.g. 5k deposit, additional 10k deposit after loan approval with documentation proof. Remaining downpayment + 1st month installment payable 3days before car collection but after VITAS inspection approval
Gtd�COE with no topup
COE rebate amt
OMv amt
no top up for CEVS, colours
CEVS value to be clearly stated
gtd delivery date by mmddyyy. if no delivery how???
warranty yrs / mileage
value of trade in car (if any)
loan amt and interest rate, monthly installment amt etc
inculsive of GSt, IU, registration plate, rebate of remaining rd tax(of trade in if any), 6mths rd tax
self 1st year insurance or PI's authorised insurance agent
engine / chassis no (already available?)

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Accessories to be included

HU model
steering audio
cameras /sensors
solar flim
floor mat
GPS / any other gadgets / rims change etc

Add me in :)

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LYC, White, X model (Swift Garage), Booked 26 Apr, Dly est 1st wk of Jul

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Collected my car from Leco Auto.

Please update......thanks� [laugh]

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Well given the vast difference in equipment list, you will need to install the side and curtains airbags and knew airbags too.
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And all the interior LED lights, auto engine stop... the $$ and time you spend, plus the already higher price you've paid for the HRV....well I don't know what to say LOL
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Anyway I don't think its legal to just install the airbags like that...

Without the side air bags, the car will be a 2 star Jncap.... As of now it is only 4 star with side curtain.
No 6 bags no buy... It is 2015 and still these bloody AD brings in under spec safety car. Even the out going A4 I saw have only 2 bags in front..... What a rip off.

Stupid COE and progressive tax making everyone worse off.

Collected my car from Leco Auto.

Please update......thanks�

Kindly update my status.

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Collected my car on 16 May 2015 (FINALLY!!)

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Zippu, from Exodus Global, Hybrid-Z, Green.

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Thank you.

Not sure if anyone is still maintaining the list. but i've booked X, Blue from Autolink yesterday. Looking at delivery in Aug/Sept.

Without the side air bags, the car will be a 2 star Jncap.... As of now it is only 4 star with side curtain.
No 6 bags no buy... It is 2015 and still these bloody AD brings in under spec safety car. Even the out going A4 I saw have only 2 bags in front..... What a rip off.

Stupid COE and progressive tax making everyone worse off.

The salesman at KM�told me�that "the airbags were hardly used, so no need so many".� Also, "LED lights expensive to maintain/ replace.� So halogen bulbs better."

The salesman at KM�told me�that "the airbags were hardly used, so no need so many".� Also, "LED lights expensive to maintain/ replace.� So halogen bulbs better."

Tell the KM salesman next time he take a plane to anyway, no need lift vest as seldom used and got $100 discount from his airfare. Shake head. He think we stupid or what?

The salesman at KM�told me�that "the airbags were hardly used, so no need so many".� Also, "LED lights expensive to maintain/ replace.� So halogen bulbs better."

Is that why Bolehland and Sawadee Land HRVs got full 6 airbags and LED headlights as standard? Cos they used the airbags on a daily basis? LOL

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Its so frustrating and sad that Salesmen are still using such 1990s excuses in a vain attempt to smoke a well informed customers.

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Tell him, LED almost never burn out, and they don't produce any heat, so there's no need to worry about hazed out headlight covers a few years down the road. Even HID headlamps can haze out the lamp covers due to high heat.

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What's there to maintain when LED are designed with virtually no maintenance in mind?

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Aiya, just buy from PI and case close la. For the super dark rear windows, you can buy original window glass from Honda stockists who sells Thailand made glass panels and replace the glass. You still get full Honda original parts all the way�

The salesman at KM�told me�that "the airbags were hardly used, so no need so many".� Also, "LED lights expensive to maintain/ replace.� So halogen bulbs better."

I thought halogen bulbs will blow over a period of time.� LED is expensive but it is a one time cost and light up your view better. Compared to halogen bulbs that blows and you need to change it couple of times (depending on your luck) over the life time of your car.\

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As for airbags, IMO, of course you hope that you don't need it in your life time, but it will definitely safe your life if there is happen to have one time you need it.

The salesman at KM�told me�that "the airbags were hardly used, so no need so many".� Also, "LED lights expensive to maintain/ replace.� So halogen bulbs better."

then should sell hrv under 100k, since overall cost reduced.

i saw a HRV today�

The salesman at KM�told me�that "the airbags were hardly used, so no need so many".� Also, "LED lights expensive to maintain/ replace.� So halogen bulbs better."

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Might as well say, cut hole in the floor and use legs to push the car maciam flintstones so can save petrol.�

then should sell hrv under 100k, since overall cost reduced.

This is called shooting yourself in the foot and worse, not realiasing it. lol

There is no shame in admiitting�ignorant if one bothers to find the answers and gain knowledge. halogen or LED better?

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There is great shame in not admitting igonrant and yet pretending to know the answers.

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Clever enough dun act clever.

Tell him, LED almost never burn out, and they don't produce any heat, so there's no need to worry about hazed out headlight covers a few years down the road. Even HID headlamps can haze out the lamp covers due to high heat.

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LED actually produce quite a bit of heat at that kind of brightness of automotive application, but most of it is concentrated behind the diode on the electrical board rather than from the lights itself since it's not burning something.

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As a result most LED modules actually have a fan inside just to keep the circuitry cool. But as you say they won't be likely to haze the lenses because there is not much if any heat coming onto the lenses.

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Chances of LED needing replacement is much lower than a halogen setup... and then of course LED usually are array.... if one diode mati sure got more in the assembly still working right?

Edited by 7hm, 18 May 2015 - 03:42 PM.

Hi guys
Just booked my improved vezel on sat.
My Se told me the windows wil be tinted original from factory but I'm still reading in forum that they will be changed out.
Is that true for all new improved vezel?

The salesman at KM�told me�that "the airbags were hardly used, so no need so many".� Also, "LED lights expensive to maintain/ replace.� So halogen bulbs better."

Piangz.... The airbags very important. Just watch the video of the comfort taxi that smashed into the tree..... I believe that 1st gen taxi got no airbags.....

If u gonna house your kids in the rear, make sure get a car with rear curtain airbags. Safety is more paramount than any other feature. You don't bang people but people bang u.

Edited by Voxy28, 18 May 2015 - 08:43 PM.

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One more thing, I have not tried but heard other bro mentioined that once you pull out the battery, some functions will not work. It will take a couple of days for the system to "reset" back to orignal� setting. One of the function is like what you mentioned, the idling start/stop would not work. Don't worry, just leave it for a couple of days and it will come back.

Never happened to mine. I pulled out mine to install volt stab and everything seems to work fine.

Honda Shuttle ... Hope to see the car in PI showroom soon

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Honda Shuttle ... Hope to see the car in PI showroom soon

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http://www.mycarforu...wave-successor/

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wah! quite attractive

1.5L iVtec +GDI�130Bhp with AWD variant [thumbsup]

SUV or MPV? how come got AWD?

if price similar as Vezel, sure hot sell��

Heard custom resume fuel chk .. Bro pse exercise cautions

Hi guys
Just booked my improved vezel on sat.
My Se told me the windows wil be tinted original from factory but I'm still reading in forum that they will be changed out.
Is that true for all new improved vezel?

Depend on which variant u booked. If grade s or hybrid the rear glass will fail. G model confirm pass

Depend on which variant u booked. If grade s or hybrid the rear glass will fail. G model confirm pass

booked the X improved version.

i knew the current s version had this problem but thought the improved� x model will also be affected so i wanted to check

Hi guys
Just booked my improved vezel on sat.
My Se told me the windows wil be tinted original from factory but I'm still reading in forum that they will be changed out.
Is that true for all new improved vezel?

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Hi, who did you buy the improved X from? SE dare to confirm will pass as original? When is your delivery?

Is that why Bolehland and Sawadee Land HRVs got full 6 airbags and LED headlights as standard? Cos they used the airbags on a daily basis? LOL

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Its so frustrating and sad that Salesmen are still using such 1990s excuses in a vain attempt to smoke a well informed customers.

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Tell him, LED almost never burn out, and they don't produce any heat, so there's no need to worry about hazed out headlight covers a few years down the road. Even HID headlamps can haze out the lamp covers due to high heat.

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What's there to maintain when LED are designed with virtually no maintenance in mind?

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Aiya, just buy from PI and case close la. For the super dark rear windows, you can buy original window glass from Honda stockists who sells Thailand made glass panels and replace the glass. You still get full Honda original parts all the way�

Bro, do you know who stocks the original vezel windows then? Thian Seng Motor?

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I've booked an improved X like Yjchan and my SE never promise me that it will pass as original. Instead if the windows fail, they will replace with clear mirrors and then add solar film. But i'm thinking if the option to re-install X version "M2L3" windows is possible, maybe i will do it depending on cost. It could be that the affected windows are not only the rear and tail windows but also the windscreen and front windows too. Said to be 99% UV protection wor.....

wah! quite attractive

1.5L iVtec +GDI�130Bhp with AWD variant

SUV or MPV? how come got AWD?

if price similar as Vezel, sure hot sell��

Many JDM cars and MPV offers AWD because of their snowy weather, esp if u drive in Hokkaido.

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But these aint true blue SUVs, so please don't take the Fit Shuttle and attempt to climb rocks and rough terrain with it.

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Hi, who did you buy the improved X from? SE dare to confirm will pass as original? When is your delivery?

Bro, do you know who stocks the original vezel windows then? Thian Seng Motor?

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I've booked an improved X like Yjchan and my SE never promise me that it will pass as original. Instead if the windows fail, they will replace with clear mirrors and then add solar film. But i'm thinking if the option to re-install X version "M2L3" windows is possible, maybe i will do it depending on cost. It could be that the affected windows are not only the rear and tail windows but also the windscreen and front windows too. Said to be 99% UV protection wor.....

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my car del in sept.

I suspect he did not know as well. I told him that if they had to change to clear windows that solar films will have to be included for me.

booked the X improved version.

i knew the current s version had this problem but thought the improved� x model will also be affected so i wanted to check

This is officially from Honda for the improved model. So for rear side window all model from X and above = Fail. (17% only)

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Hi, who did you buy the improved X from? SE dare to confirm will pass as original? When is your delivery?

Bro, do you know who stocks the original vezel windows then? Thian Seng Motor?

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I've booked an improved X like Yjchan and my SE never promise me that it will pass as original. Instead if the windows fail, they will replace with clear mirrors and then add solar film. But i'm thinking if the option to re-install X version "M2L3" windows is possible, maybe i will do it depending on cost. It could be that the affected windows are not only the rear and tail windows but also the windscreen and front windows too. Said to be 99% UV protection wor.....

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UV protection has nothing to do with tinting. Rest assured.�

mine is X version not hybird X so i assume is 27%?

pass?

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This is officially from Honda for the improved model. So for rear side window all model from X and above = Fail. (17% only)

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UV protection has nothing to do with tinting. Rest assured.�

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mine is X version not hybird X so i assume is 27%?

pass?

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Mine is improved X as well. Not the hybrid X.

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That's how i interpret the chart....27%. Pass?

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can provide the link to where you got the info? Can't navigate the japanese site to find this page.

extract from�http://www.onemotori...on_allowed.html

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The following requirements must be met when installing tinted films:

a) They must not be of the reflective type.
b) The resultant light transmittance for the front windscreen and two front side windows must be at least 70%.
c) The resultant light transmittance for the rear windscreen and the rear passenger windows must be at least 25%.
d) The front windscreen must not prevent, obstruct or interfere with the transmission of signals between the In-vehicle Unit (IU) and Electronic Road Pricing (ERP) facility.

Note: To ensure that the tinted films comply with the above requirements, you may wish to send your vehicle for testing at any of the�LTA-authorised vehicle inspection centres .

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technically speaking, if factory fitted rear class is not tinted films, it falls outside the scope

Just checked. Think tinted glass req the same

Tinted glass

The following requirements must be met when installing tinted glass:

a) They must comply with internationally recognised standards for safety glasses.
b) The resultant light transmittance for the front windscreen and two front side windows must be at least 70%.
c) The resultant light transmittance for the rear windscreen and the rear passenger windows must be at least 25%.
d) The front windscreen must not prevent, obstruct or interfere with the transmission of signals between the In-vehicle Unit (IU) and Electronic Road Pricing (ERP) facility.

Note: To ensure that the tinted glasses comply with the above requirements, you may wish to send your vehicle for testing at any of the LTA-authorised vehicle inspection centres.

HRV English manual. Enjoy!

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Honda Shuttle ... Hope to see the car in PI showroom soon

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http://www.mycarforu...wave-successor/

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looks like the Mobilo

mine is X version not hybird X so i assume is 27%?
pass?
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Yup pass, sorry my mistake missed out the hybrid word in front lol

Bro, can PM me too pls? Thks a mil! Will invite you for the buffet :)

Dave

Time to replace my existing 9 years JDM Toyota wish soon. Can PM methe list too. Thx bro.

those bro who pm me regarding the deal please give me some time to organise the info. I will reply to u shortly. Thanks.

Hi bro,

Please send a copy to me. Thx.

Yup pass, sorry my mistake missed out the hybrid word in front lol

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Noted. Thanks!

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Thanks Penknife for the link to LTA guidelines as well.

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Referred to my old Japanese textbook and added some comments directly onto the photo HomelyBetty shared. Enjoy...

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I never like SUV before but this Vezel have caught my eye. I been eyeing Vezel & Kia Forte K3 and since then contemplating to choose either one. Current ride civic fd got less than 3yrs more to go..shall i go for Japan or Korean??�

I never like SUV before but this Vezel have caught my eye. I been eyeing Vezel & Kia Forte K3 and since then contemplating to choose either one. Current ride civic fd got less than 3yrs more to go..shall i go for Japan or Korean??�

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depends on what you desire.

If it's exceptional value for money with equipment niceties like puddle lamps, dual-zone air-con with rear vents, electric memory and cooled driver's seat and front parking sensors, get the K3 Forte.

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If it's value holding (resale value), practicality (the MagicSeats), efficiency and competent performance, get the Vezel. Vezel also has collision-mitigation automatic emergency braking if I understand the bros here correctly.

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If it's reliability you're after... cannot go wrong with either. Though I think C&C may treat you quite differently from the PI co.s.

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one last thing... don't forget, Vezel is JDM car, the instrument display is probably in Japanese... someone else here can clarify please.

edit 2:

Forgot the Vezel hasn't got a multi-function display in the instruments. Just a basic trip computer.

Edited by 7hm, 20 May 2015 - 05:47 PM.

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depends on what you desire.
If it's exceptional value for money with equipment niceties like puddle lamps, dual-zone air-con with rear vents, electric memory and cooled driver's seat and front parking sensors, get the K3 Forte.
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If it's value holding (resale value), practicality (the MagicSeats), efficiency and competent performance, get the Vezel. Vezel also has collision-mitigation automatic emergency braking if I understand the bros here correctly.
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If it's reliability you're after... cannot go wrong with either. Though I think C&C may treat you quite differently from the PI co.s.
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one last thing... don't forget, Vezel is JDM car, the instrument display is probably in Japanese... someone else here can clarify please.
edit 2:
Forgot the Vezel hasn't got a multi-function display in the instruments. Just a basic trip computer.

It is not in japanese. And what kind of multi function are you referring to?

It is not in japanese. And what kind of multi function are you referring to?

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Those LCD screens that can display all kinds of info. Like those you find in the contis. Typically in the middle between dials. Toyota Altis has one for example. Typically called multifunction display (MFD).

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I forgot Vezel don't have one, just the small circular display on the right. Somehow thinking every new car have already [dizzy]

Edited by 7hm, 20 May 2015 - 07:31 PM.

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depends on what you desire.
If it's exceptional value for money with equipment niceties like puddle lamps, dual-zone air-con with rear vents, electric memory and cooled driver's seat and front parking sensors, get the K3 Forte.
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If it's value holding (resale value), practicality (the MagicSeats), efficiency and competent performance, get the Vezel. Vezel also has collision-mitigation automatic emergency braking if I understand the bros here correctly.
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If it's reliability you're after... cannot go wrong with either. Though I think C&C may treat you quite differently from the PI co.s.
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edit:
one last thing... don't forget, Vezel is JDM car, the instrument display is probably in Japanese... someone else here can clarify please.
edit 2:
Forgot the Vezel hasn't got a multi-function display in the instruments. Just a basic trip computer.

May I know what is this multi-function display?

May I know what is this multi-function display?

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Since we were using KIA K3 as example...
Example is the LCD between the two dials.

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Edited by 7hm, 20 May 2015 - 07:35 PM.

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Those LCD screens that can display all kinds of info. Like those you find in the contis. Typically in the middle between dials. Toyota Altis has one for example. Typically called multifunction display (MFD).
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I forgot Vezel don't have one, just the small circular display on the right. Somehow thinking every new car have already

You are referring to the one that shows you your average fuel consumption and mileage etc? Vezel got ah. The led ring on the dial turns green if you are accelerating softly and blue when heavy footing. Actually imho vezel is quite well equipped internally.

Edited by Andyngps, 20 May 2015 - 07:41 PM.

You are referring to the one that shows you your average fuel consumption and mileage etc?

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That one ya. But I think it doesn't really give you much other info like configuring the car settings right? Then it's not considered MFD imo.

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Since we were using KIA K3 as example...
Example is the LCD between the two dials.

That's a good to have feature but that would be 1 more thing to distract drivers. Hahaha...

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That one ya. But I think it doesn't really give you much other info like configuring the car settings right? Then it's not considered MFD imo.

I see. Oh ya, in this aspect there's no frill for vezel. But i was considering kia too but in the end I choose vezel because it is jdm, honda engine, power to weight ratio, resale value, well quipped with practical functionalities and reliability.

I think Vezel has something similar but just not as multi function. Check out the display on the right which is not very obvious.

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Edited by Cereal, 20 May 2015 - 07:49 PM.

I think Vezel has something similar but just not as multi function. Check out the display on the right which is not very obvious.

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That's what I'm referring to. Just trip computer, doesn't count as MFD to me.

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...still waiting for the time all cars have nice swee swee HUD. I want to have a HUD so don't have to look down for speedometer but only Peugeot or Citroen DS5 have... or Mercedes-Benz/BMW if you got the $$$$$

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But whether you want to have a MFD depends on you. I'm tech savvy and like to have gadgets that tell me everything I can possibly want to know... so I like to have MFD. Others love the no-frills experience of some cars and I understand... I also want to enjoy a no-frills motoring sometimes... but on a day-to-day basis I would prefer a tech-laden ride [drivingcar]

Since you guys are on this topic comparing the Kia Forte K3 and the Vezel, allow me to do a quick run down since I'm quite well informed with the Forte :)

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We use the latest Forte SX Sport model as comparo

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Advantage Forte SX Sport has over the Vezel:

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-� factory HIDs and factory sunroof.... well obviously LEDs is the future but HID still wins in terms of absolute illumination distance and beam spread... for now la.

-� Rear aircon vents.

- Dual zone climate control with LG Air purifier built in.

-� Power driver's seat with 2 memory settings.

-� heated front seats, vented for driver as well

-� Full suite of controls on the steering wheel including CC, audio, Bluetooth, trip computer, menu selection

-� Semi OEM integrated large screen HU with GPS, reverse cam, WMA, MP3 audio. This unit is local fitted and made in China, but its designed for the Forte and it fit perfectly in dash. No ugly 2DIN unit that sticks out from the dash.

-� Forte offers conventional parking brake lever vs Vezel push button parking brake, The lever allows handbrake turns easily... hehe ok this point is silly... moving on. :)

-� Speedometer not limited to 180km/h... not that you can drive faster than 180 everyday in SG.

- Overall quieter cabin.

-� Conventional torque converter 6AT... I still don't think CVT is robust enough for heavy duty, long term use.

-� Paddle shifter

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used to like forte, but after vezel came out, my interest switch to vezel. It seems that forte is getting more and more complicated electronic devices, I will be concerned about its reliability. Would prefer something simple and straight forward.�

used to like forte, but after vezel came out, my interest switch to vezel. It seems that forte is getting more and more complicated electronic devices, I will be concerned about its reliability. Would prefer something simple and straight forward.�

picano is straight forward also right?

Hi all.

Long time lurker but first post.
Got my Vezel X earlier this month and already felt comfortable driving the car since was mentally prepared after picking up all the tips shared in here.

Things I have noticed about the Vezel but may have missed out in the threads.
- the meter showing avg km/l actually takes idling state into account.
I watched my avg km/l drop from 14 to 12 while waiting to pick up someone.

- quite a few times the engine stop doesnt happen even when I dont disable it. I have a habit of immediately pushing into neutral gear upon stopping but I dont know if its the steering moving or the neutral gear causing it. (I have a heavy brake foot)

- during the engine stop, the following action starts up the engine
releasing the brake pedal
Slight turn of steering wheel
switch from neutral to drive mode

White Vezel X (pi: wheelersdealers)

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That's what I'm referring to. Just trip computer, doesn't count as MFD to me.
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...still waiting for the time all cars have nice swee swee HUD. I want to have a HUD so don't have to look down for speedometer but only Peugeot or Citroen DS5 have... or Mercedes-Benz/BMW if you got the $$$$$
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But whether you want to have a MFD depends on you. I'm tech savvy and like to have gadgets that tell me everything I can possibly want to know... so I like to have MFD. Others love the no-frills experience of some cars and I understand... I also want to enjoy a no-frills motoring sometimes... but on a day-to-day basis I would prefer a tech-laden ride

Mazda3 got too right?.

- Overall quieter cabin.

-� Paddle shifter

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For cabin quietness, have you actually tried sitting in a Vezel? No offense, honest question only! I haven't test drive either unfortunately [blush]
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For paddle shifters... I thought Vezel come with them? To emulate a 6-speed...

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Mazda3 got too right?.

I think it has a small one on the right side for standard model (left side is digital tacho)... but I'm not sure how multifunction. The Deluxe/Sport have analogue tach with digital speedo in the central dial, but the left & right side are info displays. I can't recall what they can show, but I know on the larger CX5/M6 which use triple-barrel designs, the right tube is a MFD.

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If you referring to HUD, yep yep, Mazda 3 is the cheapest car on market with a HUD. Only "B&B" model I can think of with one... Though I find its implementation could be better.

Edited by 7hm, 21 May 2015 - 04:14 PM.

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For cabin quietness, have you actually tried sitting in a Vezel? No offense, honest question only! I haven't test drive either unfortunately
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For paddle shifters... I thought Vezel come with them? To emulate a 6-speed...

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I think it has a small one on the right side for standard model (left side is digital tacho)... but I'm not sure how multifunction. The Deluxe/Sport have analogue tach with digital speedo in the central dial, but the left & right side are info displays. I can't recall what they can show, but I know on the larger CX5/M6 which use triple-barrel designs, the right tube is a MFD.
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If you referring to HUD, yep yep, Mazda 3 is the cheapest car on market with a HUD. Only "B&B" model I can think of with one... Though I find its implementation could be better.

Vezel S version got paddle shifters. As for cabin quietness, it will not impress. If want to compare, not as loud as the following: altis, vios, lancer, jazz, city, sx4, subaru xv, impreza. My opinion only. Deps a lot on your tyres. If you have quiet tyres, the cabin is ok. I changed mine and it work wonders. But quite a few vezel owners did do SP. To me, sound proofing cam be enhanced aftermarket. What cannot be changed is the reliability. Henceforth I still stick to vezel. I still like the display when engine is started. Not to mention i will choose vezel aircon display over others anytime

Edited by Andyngps, 21 May 2015 - 07:41 PM.

Hi fellow forumers,�

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I am now encountering a terrible experience with a particular PI. I put a downpayment for a Vezel X from them in Mar at a time when the COE dip momentarily - they are supposed to deliver in end May as per contract but now they are now giving a lot of excuses for not delivering.�

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I think they are using gangstar tactics to either get me to top up or walk away from a deal which they are not making good money even though they have earlier committed!

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Have any forumers encountered something similar and any advice??�

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Tks in advance!

Hi fellow forumers,�

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I am now encountering a terrible experience with a particular PI. I put a downpayment for a Vezel X from them in Mar at a time when the COE dip momentarily - they are supposed to deliver in end May as per contract but now they are now giving a lot of excuses for not delivering.�

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I think they are using gangstar tactics to either get me to top up or walk away from a deal which they are not making good money even though they have earlier committed!

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Have any forumers encountered something similar and any advice??�

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Tks in advance!

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if you bought guaranteed without top up then you have a case..otherwise, your COE bid is non guarantee....they are not gangsters, just that you never read what you signed..

Hi fellow forumers,�

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I am now encountering a terrible experience with a particular PI. I put a downpayment for a Vezel X from them in Mar at a time when the COE dip momentarily - they are supposed to deliver in end May as per contract but now they are now giving a lot of excuses for not delivering.�

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I think they are using gangstar tactics to either get me to top up or walk away from a deal which they are not making good money even though they have earlier committed!

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Have any forumers encountered something similar and any advice??�

�

Tks in advance!

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If you feel not right, you can pull out of the deal..but wait...will they forfeit your deposit for breaking the contract?

Hi fellow forumers,�

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I am now encountering a terrible experience with a particular PI. I put a downpayment for a Vezel X from them in Mar at a time when the COE dip momentarily - they are supposed to deliver in end May as per contract but now they are now giving a lot of excuses for not delivering.�

�

I think they are using gangstar tactics to either get me to top up or walk away from a deal which they are not making good money even though they have earlier committed!

�

Have any forumers encountered something similar and any advice??�

�

Tks in advance!

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I am looking to buy Vezel too, can you PM me the name of the PI so that I can avoid them in my hunt?

Thanks.

Hi fellow forumers,�

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I am now encountering a terrible experience with a particular PI. I put a downpayment for a Vezel X from them in Mar at a time when the COE dip momentarily - they are supposed to deliver in end May as per contract but now they are now giving a lot of excuses for not delivering.�

�

I think they are using gangstar tactics to either get me to top up or walk away from a deal which they are not making good money even though they have earlier committed!

�

Have any forumers encountered something similar and any advice??�

�

Tks in advance!

No offense to my question I hope but how was your attitude when you approached your PI about this?

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If you approached them with the "want to make things work" concept, things should typically work out :)

What do u mean by "want to make things work" concept? I would believe that since the buyer/seller agreed the price, and buyer has paid the deposit, seller should deliver as promised.

I have a colleague who is experiencing same situation, she paid for guaranteed coe some more.

No offense to my question I hope but how was your attitude when you approached your PI about this?
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If you approached them with the "want to make things work" concept, things should typically work out :)

Name the PIs lah

somehow, i feel the ride is different after switching from 95 to 98 petrol. anyone share the same?

Hi all.

Long time lurker but first post.
Got my Vezel X earlier this month and already felt comfortable driving the car since was mentally prepared after picking up all the tips shared in here.

Things I have noticed about the Vezel but may have missed out in the threads.
- the meter showing avg km/l actually takes idling state into account.
I watched my avg km/l drop from 14 to 12 while waiting to pick up someone.

- quite a few times the engine stop doesnt happen even when I dont disable it. I have a habit of immediately pushing into neutral gear upon stopping but I dont know if its the steering moving or the neutral gear causing it. (I have a heavy brake foot)

- during the engine stop, the following action starts up the engine
releasing the brake pedal
Slight turn of steering wheel
switch from neutral to drive mode

White Vezel X (pi: wheelersdealers)

FYI, all start-stop systems (regardless of brand) behaves in this manner.

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So do not shift into N while waiting at the lights. Your engine will not switch off.

somehow, i feel the ride is different after switching from 95 to 98 petrol. anyone share the same?

I only tried vpower before and sure can feel the diff.

somehow, i feel the ride is different after switching from 95 to 98 petrol. anyone share the same?

Its a really old discussion, but many modern high tech engines runs better with 98 octane fuel, engine tends to be quieter and there's more power on hand. Fuel economy Is typical slightly better too.

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And it has little to do with the actual octane numbers.

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Its the additives the respective manufacturers adds to their fuel mix that makes all the difference.

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FYI, in Thailand, esp Bangkok, 95 octane is their premium grade gas and they are E10 (10% Ethanol mix) �as well. Even�the current gen Ford Fiesta 1.6 got noticeable difference when I switch from their�cheaper E20 gas to 95 octane �

I only tried vpower before and sure can feel the diff.

And our Vpower stocks and Bolehland Vpower 97 or Racing are quite different in terms of additives used.

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Ours seems to be the same grade as what North America and Europe Vpower....

Hi fellow forumers,�

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I am now encountering a terrible experience with a particular PI. I put a downpayment for a Vezel X from them in Mar at a time when the COE dip momentarily - they are supposed to deliver in end May as per contract but now they are now giving a lot of excuses for not delivering.�

�

I think they are using gangstar tactics to either get me to top up or walk away from a deal which they are not making good money even though they have earlier committed!

�

Have any forumers encountered something similar and any advice??�

�

Tks in advance!

I think just talk to them nicely. If they think the deal cannot go through, just cancel and return you everything. If they still think can go through, then when can they finally deliver? No point to buy from a PI which you encountered bad experience and not forgetting after getting the car, the after-sales service. PI does not have the financial power as an AD. Definitely they will not want to make a loss unlike AD. If your deal is not guarantee, then you would need to top up or withdraw.�

I think just talk to them nicely. If they think the deal cannot go through, just cancel and return you everything. If they still think can go through, then when can they finally deliver? No point to buy from a PI which you encountered bad experience and not forgetting after getting the car, the after-sales service. PI does not have the financial power as an AD. Definitely they will not want to make a loss unlike AD. If your deal is not guarantee, then you would need to top up or withdraw.�

Sorry, sent comments to you by mistake. Ignore.

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Good day!!

Hi fellow forumers,�

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I am now encountering a terrible experience with a particular PI. I put a downpayment for a Vezel X from them in Mar at a time when the COE dip momentarily - they are supposed to deliver in end May as per contract but now they are now giving a lot of excuses for not delivering.�

�

I think they are using gangstar tactics to either get me to top up or walk away from a deal which they are not making good money even though they have earlier committed!

�

Have any forumers encountered something similar and any advice??�

�

Tks in advance!

�

Can u provide name of PI?

Since you guys are on this topic comparing the Kia Forte K3 and the Vezel, allow me to do a quick run down since I'm quite well informed with the Forte :)

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We use the latest Forte SX Sport model as comparo

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Advantage Forte SX Sport has over the Vezel:

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-� factory HIDs and factory sunroof.... well obviously LEDs is the future but HID still wins in terms of absolute illumination distance and beam spread... for now la.

-� Rear aircon vents.

- Dual zone climate control with LG Air purifier built in.

-� Power driver's seat with 2 memory settings.

-� heated front seats, vented for driver as well

-� Full suite of controls on the steering wheel including CC, audio, Bluetooth, trip computer, menu selection

-� Semi OEM integrated large screen HU with GPS, reverse cam, WMA, MP3 audio. This unit is local fitted and made in China, but its designed for the Forte and it fit perfectly in dash. No ugly 2DIN unit that sticks out from the dash.

-� Forte offers conventional parking brake lever vs Vezel push button parking brake, The lever allows handbrake turns easily... hehe ok this point is silly... moving on. :)

-� Speedometer not limited to 180km/h... not that you can drive faster than 180 everyday in SG.

- Overall quieter cabin.

-� Conventional torque converter 6AT... I still don't think CVT is robust enough for heavy duty, long term use.

-� Paddle shifter

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I was on the side line of FORTE vs VEZEL X vs M3 at that time; well Vezel's advantage were :

- SUV - higher and better frontal view , especially for long distance drive

- Better fuel consumption

- Lower long term maintenance cost �; Lower cost of spare parts ( 3 Options : Japan , Malaysia or Thailand )

- Better and easier to resell if intend to change in less than 10 years�

- More Solid Looks (personal preference.... but in term of looks still prefer M3)

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Actually advance features at times are like double edge sword , Nice to have but when spoil quite expensive to fix and may not use it often �:

- Rear Aircon : good if most of the time of travel are more than 2 , some warn about airduct cleaning especially when run at the bottom of the car more dust will collect and servicing will require to open center console

- Ventilated seat : Personally like this feature alot , concern will be 3 years down the road if dust clog can it be clean easily ?�

- Paddle shift & Bluetooh : How often will it be in use ?�

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*Could have added 2-5k for S version where there is Paddle Shift & Bluetooth�

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I was on the side line of FORTE vs VEZEL X vs M3 at that time; well Vezel's advantage were :

- More Solid Looks (personal preference.... but in term of looks still prefer M3)

- Paddle shift & Bluetooh : How often will it be in use ?�

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*Could have added 2-5k for S version where there is Paddle Shift & Bluetooth�

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Vezel appearance wise is a mixed bag for me. I find the front 'face' really ugly, but I really like the side profile and rear clusters. I don't find the K3's shape overall appealing, to me it's a bit understated especially compared to the sculpted-looking Elantra. Too rounded and bulbous, but at the same time it's still got a business like classy handsomeness. Problem is that the large KIA badge kind of spoils the look as a whole. I respect the brand a lot, but I find their logo with its big lettering just kind of ugly.

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As for paddle shifters, it depends on how engaged a driver you are. If you are not a manumatic/tiptronic type of person who prefer to let an automatic (or in this case a CVT) just do its own thing, you will never care for or even like paddle shifters, let alone a +- manual-gate on the stick. But for some (like me) the auto-box just doesn't do what we want it to do sometimes (well my current car's, anyway) and we want to take matters into control. I would inherently prefer paddle shifters over a gear-stick manual gate only, as it requires less movement of the hands, though in its own way pulling a stick is also very enjoyable.

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Bluetooth I think is a must have feature in any modern car now. People are on phone so often. If not for calls, for music streaming. But maybe it's just because I'm on the tech-forward side. Besides, Bluetooth is no longer an "advanced feature", even bargain basement phones usually have Bluetooth.

Edited by 7hm, 22 May 2015 - 03:13 PM.

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I was on the side line of FORTE vs VEZEL X vs M3 at that time; well Vezel's advantage were :

- SUV - higher and better frontal view , especially for long distance drive

- Better fuel consumption

- Lower long term maintenance cost �; Lower cost of spare parts ( 3 Options : Japan , Malaysia or Thailand )

- Better and easier to resell if intend to change in less than 10 years�

- More Solid Looks (personal preference.... but in term of looks still prefer M3)

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Actually advance features at times are like double edge sword , Nice to have but when spoil quite expensive to fix and may not use it often �:

- Rear Aircon : good if most of the time of travel are more than 2 , some warn about airduct cleaning especially when run at the bottom of the car more dust will collect and servicing will require to open center console

- Ventilated seat : Personally like this feature alot , concern will be 3 years down the road if dust clog can it be clean easily ?�

- Paddle shift & Bluetooh : How often will it be in use ?�

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*Could have added 2-5k for S version where there is Paddle Shift & Bluetooth�

Ah well if you are able to service your Forte outside and that workshop offers comphrensive aircon cleaning equipment, their technicians can actually connect a cleaning jet (with special non liquid and non abrasive fan coil cleaner) into the fan suction area behind the glovebox.

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Hehe I use my paddle shifters in my FD1 on a daily basis, need it to blast through messy traffic and some blur aunties driving big expensive cars doing 50km/h on the right most lane! [furious] � [smash]

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Bluetooth is required to connect your phone to the onboard speaker and mic ya. Else how do you take calls when you are driving?

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I am looking to buy Vezel too, can you PM me the name of the PI so that I can avoid them in my hunt?
Thanks.

Please dun PM. Just list out here, spread it to help other.

Please dun PM. Just list out here, spread it to help other.

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Which is???

Would like to know if anyone has booked the Vezel after the recent COE bidding exercise. I went to AML earlier today and was informed by some PIs that it has gone OOS and the new stocks will only be here 3 to 6 months later.

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I was on the side line of FORTE vs VEZEL X vs M3 at that time; well Vezel's advantage were :
- SUV - higher and better frontal view , especially for long distance drive
- Better fuel consumption
- Lower long term maintenance cost �; Lower cost of spare parts ( 3 Options : Japan , Malaysia or Thailand )
- Better and easier to resell if intend to change in less than 10 years�
- More Solid Looks (personal preference.... but in term of looks still prefer M3)
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Actually advance features at times are like double edge sword , Nice to have but when spoil quite expensive to fix and may not use it often �:
- Rear Aircon : good if most of the time of travel are more than 2 , some warn about airduct cleaning especially when run at the bottom of the car more dust will collect and servicing will require to open center console
- Ventilated seat : Personally like this feature alot , concern will be 3 years down the road if dust clog can it be clean easily ?�
- Paddle shift & Bluetooh : How often will it be in use ?�
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*Could have added 2-5k for S version where there is Paddle Shift & Bluetooth�

Agreed. Actually if a car is known to be reliable and efficient, one does not need to have those extra features. I always fall back onto the car eng/powertrain which I feel is most important.

Agreed. Actually if a car is known to be reliable and efficient, one does not need to have those extra features. I always fall back onto the car eng/powertrain which I feel is most important.

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Same here bro, too many electronic components would also mean more maintenance cost coming your way too.

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Same here bro, too many electronic components would also mean more maintenance cost coming your way too.

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Toyotas and Hondas also have a lot of electronics on other models, so I don't really see the comparison... :mellow:

Lexus have their RemoteTouch system and electroluminescent cluster as well as ventilated memory seats, but nobody has complaint about their electronics... [knife]

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Toyotas and Hondas also have a lot of electronics on other models, so I don't really see the comparison...
Lexus have their RemoteTouch system and electroluminescent cluster as well as ventilated memory seats, but nobody has complaint about their electronics...

I rem once i asked KM agent why honda got smart key entry when so many jap brands already got. He said it is a honda, no need all these features. People still buy. I was like...duh.....but anyway vezel now got most of the practical features required at least to me...

Hi like to check if anyone actually took up high loan instead of 50% downpayment?
Saw an ads saying 90% loan with 8 years repayment scheme, wonder how true is it.

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Same here bro, too many electronic components would also mean more maintenance cost coming your way too.

That is so untrue... unless you are driving a French car or VW....

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FYI, all the wear and tear parts in� my FD1 are all pure mechanical parts with no electronic elements in it.

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And these mech parts are expensive to replace...

Hi like to check if anyone actually took up high loan instead of 50% downpayment?
Saw an ads saying 90% loan with 8 years repayment scheme, wonder how true is it.

I believe this is a lease.

Booked�Silver X Model from Autolink yesterday (23-May), will deliver latest by mid September or early.

Other popular PI(s) also need to queue until Sep or October.

Hope can collect ASAP.�
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Honda Vezel Falls under CAT - A �COE pricing. Please take note !

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Any comment on this Honda Vezel ? Looks similar to Toyota Rav4 in terms of physical shape. Only bad thing is that it falls under Cat B category. haiz....�

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Booked�Silver X Model from Autolink yesterday (23-May), will deliver latest by mid September or early.

Other popular PI(s) also need to queue until Sep or October.

Hope can collect ASAP.�
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wahah...� now buy book can only collect in Sep. What if COE drop below the rebate price? Will the PI reduce the final price accordingly or if become their profit?

I am also eyeing vezel as my current ride coe end in this year oct.

last week, went to turf club look look cc.

the best offer was 115,888. coe rebate at 57k. book now still can get jul or aug shipment otherwise oct nov shipment.

still considering.

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any advise?

Hey guys, i am looking at Vezel vs K3.

As this will be my first car, i have couple of questions, in terms of the cost of servicing/maintenance/parts repair, does it matters if its a PI or for AD like CNC?

And can i use citibank loan(1.48%) instead of the inhouse loan?

And in terms of FC, Vezel will be a better choice right, as i have seen conflicting comments elsewhere.�

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I really like the looks of Vezel, but im not comfortable as it is from a PI. maybe because this will be my first car...

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Edited by drwatson, 24 May 2015 - 04:10 PM.

Hey guys, i am looking at Vezel vs K3.

As this will be my first car, i have couple of questions, in terms of the cost of servicing/maintenance/parts repair, does it matters if its a PI or for AD like CNC?

And can i use citibank loan(1.48%) instead of the inhouse loan?

And in terms of FC, Vezel will be a better choice right, as i have seen conflicting comments elsewhere.�

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I really like the looks of Vezel, but im not comfortable as it is from a PI. maybe because this will be my first car...

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My advice is you must get the guarantee COE regardless you want to buy from PI or CnC.�

CnC failed to secure the COE for me after 6 bids and refund me. I also want to buy K3 but this experience totally turn me off.

After test drive Mazda3, Altis, Elantra and HR-V, i decided to go with Vezel.�

It is really up to your preference, every car has it own pros and cons.�
But at the end i shortlisted Altis and Vezel but like Vezel more than Altis,probably i want to try compact SUV.

Do more research and decide based on your need.

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I was on the side line of FORTE vs VEZEL X vs M3 at that time; well Vezel's advantage were :

- SUV - higher and better frontal view , especially for long distance drive

- Better fuel consumption

- Lower long term maintenance cost �; Lower cost of spare parts ( 3 Options : Japan , Malaysia or Thailand )

- Better and easier to resell if intend to change in less than 10 years�

- More Solid Looks (personal preference.... but in term of looks still prefer M3)

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Actually advance features at times are like double edge sword , Nice to have but when spoil quite expensive to fix and may not use it often �:

- Rear Aircon : good if most of the time of travel are more than 2 , some warn about airduct cleaning especially when run at the bottom of the car more dust will collect and servicing will require to open center console

- Ventilated seat : Personally like this feature alot , concern will be 3 years down the road if dust clog can it be clean easily ?�

- Paddle shift & Bluetooh : How often will it be in use ?�

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*Could have added 2-5k for S version where there is Paddle Shift & Bluetooth�

My personal experience when i struggle to choose between this few car. (k3 vs Altis vs M3 vs Elantra vs HRV vs Vezel)

- I really like the design especially the LED Day light, auto fold side mirror when you lock/unlock car

- rear aircon

- rear passenger space

- many features

- fuel consumption sure not comparable to Altis

But, the CnC sales man ruined it. Told me no need to pay for guarantee COE to save money but after 3 months failed to secure COE.

Wasted 3 months just for the COE.

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Altis

- the first car i tested and comfortable with it

- But feel bore with the interior design and similar feeling as my current Nissan

- rear passenger space is awesome due to flat floor design

- price is higher than K3 so i settled with CnC�

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After 3 months of wait, i open my range to explore other option including those from PI

Mazda 3

- i love it after test drive

- rear passenger seat shoulder room is impressive but the leg room is the biggest concern

- i almost want to buy this car but the leg room really turn me off because i have 2 kids, and another coming soon

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Elantra

- not a fan of elantra but still give it a try

- the overall experience is fine but don't like the interior and felt K3 is better

- no doubt rear passenger space is good

- price is not cheap neither (114,888 when i asked)

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HR-V

- i know the similar modal is Vezel and decided to take a look

- my first intention is to check out how much Civic but attracted by HR-V display unit

- Test drove it and really like the overall design n interior.

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Vezel

- no test drive available and from PI. Which many ppl is concern with. But look at the cars at the market, many are from PI and no issue with it.

- went down to Automobile megamart, touch it and felt it. I really love it and price is lower than Altis

- brought my wife down to view Vezel and convinced her to get Vezel. And we booked it, estimate to arrive by June/July, pass VITAS at Aug/Sep.�

Note: no joke. this car is really hot. every PI told me need to wait until Sep or longer.

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For those interested, please do more research and buy base on your need and your family need.

Hope my experience can help someone to escape the bad experience from non-guarantee COE.�

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P/S: must get guarantee COE without top-up

My personal experience when i struggle to choose between this few car. (k3 vs Altis vs M3 vs Elantra vs HRV vs Vezel)
K3
- I really like the design especially the LED Day light, auto fold side mirror when you lock/unlock car
- rear aircon
- rear passenger space
- many features
- fuel consumption sure not comparable to Altis
But, the CnC sales man ruined it. Told me no need to pay for guarantee COE to save money but after 3 months failed to secure COE.
Wasted 3 months just for the COE.
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Altis
- the first car i tested and comfortable with it
- But feel bore with the interior design and similar feeling as my current Nissan
- rear passenger space is awesome due to flat floor design
- price is higher than K3 so i settled with CnC�
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After 3 months of wait, i open my range to explore other option including those from PI
Mazda 3
- i love it after test drive
- rear passenger seat shoulder room is impressive but the leg room is the biggest concern
- i almost want to buy this car but the leg room really turn me off because i have 2 kids, and another coming soon
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Elantra
- not a fan of elantra but still give it a try
- the overall experience is fine but don't like the interior and felt K3 is better
- no doubt rear passenger space is good
- price is not cheap neither (114,888 when i asked)
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HR-V
- i know the similar modal is Vezel and decided to take a look
- my first intention is to check out how much Civic but attracted by HR-V display unit
- Test drove it and really like the overall design n interior.
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Vezel
- no test drive available and from PI. Which many ppl is concern with. But look at the cars at the market, many are from PI and no issue with it.
- went down to Automobile megamart, touch it and felt it. I really love it and price is lower than Altis
- brought my wife down to view Vezel and convinced her to get Vezel. And we booked it, estimate to arrive by June/July, pass VITAS at Aug/Sep.�
Note: no joke. this car is really hot. every PI told me need to wait until Sep or longer.
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For those interested, please do more research and buy base on your need and your family need.
Hope my experience can help someone to escape the bad experience from non-guarantee COE.�
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P/S: must get guarantee COE without top-up

Hrv and vezel are quite different. Only chassis similar. Hrv's eng is SOHC, lower specs than vezel's DOHC. Hrv lack of led headlights, dtrl, eng cut off, ctba. Even the interior lights a bit different. Hrv's one ratheer old fashion.

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