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since u are using a narrower tire compared to mine 225/55/17
i suggest try 230 front and back
and pump once every 2 weeks of driving to see how much deflation u get
within the 2 weeks monitor how comfortable or bumpy the ride once nears the two week gauge how the ride comfort and fuel consumption is then pump the tire pressure that is best for u, trial and error
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i so far pump 240 front and back
and by end of two weeks my deflation will reach btw 211 to 220 by then i know i need to pump again
fuel consumption have been averaging btw 16.8 to 19.5km/l �80%expressway and 20%city driving
best half tank distance 430km, best full tank 630km
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Bro, the exhaust pipe behind and the exhaust box below the driver side very ugly... thinking of spraying it to black color.
But must use Very High Temperature paint/spray,�
I think it helps to prevent rust too.
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The undercarriage including the exhaust should be rust resistance. Moreover spray it black may make your next buyer (if you decide to sell) think that you kena major accident before which resulted in a re-spray paint job.�
I'm thinking to change the exhaust, wondering if it affect the FC.
I'm thinking to change the exhaust, wondering if it affect the FC.
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See LTA regulation :
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Exhaust system
�The exhaust system, which consists of the exhaust manifold, catalytic converter and muffler, is used as part of a vehicle's exhaust emission control system to ensure that the exhaust emission meets our environmental requirements. Any modification to the exhaust system would therefore require LTA's approval. The following should be submitted to LTA for evaluation:
a) Certification from the product manufacturer stating that the proposed aftermarket exhaust system is suitable for the make and model of the vehicle.
b) Certifications or test reports from LTA/NEA recognised test laboratories to show that the aftermarket exhaust system when fitted to the vehicle on a per make and model basis complied with prevailing exhaust emission standards.
Note: Removing catalytic converters and mufflers are not allowed as it will adversely affect the exhaust emission characteristics of the vehicle.
Vehicle owners found modifying or tampering with the exhaust system may face a Court fine of up to $1,000 or 3 months' imprisonment upon conviction in Court.
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See LTA regulation :
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Exhaust system
�(e.g. exhaust manifolds, catalytic converters, mufflers, etc.)
The exhaust system, which consists of the exhaust manifold, catalytic converter and muffler, is used as part of a vehicle's exhaust emission control system to ensure that the exhaust emission meets our environmental requirements. Any modification to the exhaust system would therefore require LTA's approval. The following should be submitted to LTA for evaluation:
a) Certification from the product manufacturer stating that the proposed aftermarket exhaust system is suitable for the make and model of the vehicle.
b) Certifications or test reports from LTA/NEA recognised test laboratories to show that the aftermarket exhaust system when fitted to the vehicle on a per make and model basis complied with prevailing exhaust emission standards.
Note: Removing catalytic converters and mufflers are not allowed as it will adversely affect the exhaust emission characteristics of the vehicle.
Vehicle owners found modifying or tampering with the exhaust system may face a Court fine of up to $1,000 or 3 months' imprisonment upon conviction in Court.�
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Thanks for sharing, yeah i mean legal exhaust system. Something nicer.. haha!
any bros know if any workshop help to spray the exhaust pipe with VHT paint?
Since you buying the VHT paint for your exhaust, why not go to autobac and buy a lot of under carriage 3m rubberised paint and spray the whole car undercarrige..including the wheel arches. I bought about 6 can of the rubberised paint and I go to man exhaust to help me spray it while putting on the tail pipe. Pay labour of course.
You guys have to see the vezel undercarriage...that's the reason why I wanted it spray. .
Beside the exhaust itself most of the undercarriage are cover up. You mean spray on the panel as well?Since you buying the VHT paint for your exhaust, why not go to autobac and buy a lot of under carriage 3m rubberised paint and spray the whole car undercarrige..including the wheel arches. I bought about 6 can of the rubberised paint and I go to man exhaust to help me spray it while putting on the tail pipe. Pay labour of course.
You guys have to see the vezel undercarriage...that's the reason why I wanted it spray. .
Beside the exhaust itself most of the undercarriage are cover up. You mean spray on the panel as well?
Beside the exhaust itself most of the undercarriage are cover up. You mean spray on the panel as well?
The under carriage panel can be taken out its in 2 pics ...then you can see the bare metal of the under carriage.thats of course you have to go workshop to jack up the car.
I'm looking at the blue vezel and wonder if you guys can give any opinions as to what color leather seats should suit best?
If fellow broses who already have the blue vezel maybe can share your valuable input?
My wife prefers tanned brown leather seats but I'm not sure if it'd suit the blue exterior. ..
Sorry, can't contribute much on the technical aspects car performance etc, can only ask at the aesthetics, but I hope to learn more from you guys!
Cheers and happy cny :)))
Hi guys, it's my first post here but have been following this thread ever since I've decided to be an aspiring vezel-ian. In fact it will be my very first car purchase too. Very very greenhorn!
I'm looking at the blue vezel and wonder if you guys can give any opinions as to what color leather seats should suit best?
If fellow broses who already have the blue vezel maybe can share your valuable input?
My wife prefers tanned brown leather seats but I'm not sure if it'd suit the blue exterior. ..
Sorry, can't contribute much on the technical aspects car performance etc, can only ask at the aesthetics, but I hope to learn more from you guys!
Cheers and happy cny :)))
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Another method to try is to switch off the Econ mode. Understand from some bro here that travel mostly in city by switching off Econ mode gives better FC.
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Thought Econ is like non-turbo mode ? How does it help by switching off Econ ?
I'm thinking to change the exhaust, wondering if it affect the FC.
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bro i've never really thought of changing exhaust, but if you have researched any good lobang let us noe yeh?
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increased performance if any however usually leads to more fuel consumption
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Edited by Rationalexuberance, 26 February 2015 - 09:43 AM.
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bro i've never really thought of changing exhaust, but if you have researched any good lobang let us noe yeh?
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sweet looking exhaust
but agree with u will affect FC
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Thought Econ is like non-turbo mode ? How does it help by switching off Econ ?
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for city driving switch off econ ode better
expressway driving econ mode on better
thank you for your advise and i will try 230... hopefully i can get at least 500km per tank :)
i just use almost half of my tank and only hit 250km and i didnt step hard on accelerator (less than 2rpm)
haizzz whats wrong i also don't know....
any other input from other owners? or am i the only one facing such high FC ?
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Gotten my X model, stock 16"rims, eco mode for 8months and averaging at about 13-14km/l.
Not too far from yours.
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Basically, i travel relatively short distances on highway and daily commute involves lots of stops & jams.
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Tyre pressure is 210/200 or less(as i did not bother to check/pump).
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Anyway, planning to increase to 230 after my wife give birth in a month's time. The ride will be too rough for her now.
Also to change engine oil from 0w50 to 30 during next servicing.
Edited by seankwa, 26 February 2015 - 09:57 AM.
Anyone tried the S mode yet? Tried it just now on an empty road. Pretty impress that the vezel climbs to 100km/H pretty quick. Initial sprint off the line was a bit slow but picks up speed pretty well after.
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I am considering to get this car, was doing some research here but there is too much post, read until 230am and only managed to cover 30% of it....
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Any Vezel owner here had drove to Malaysia?�
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I have a question on the rpm at high speed. As I drive to Malaysia a lot, with my current Honda City, 130km/h is slightly over 3,000 rpm and 140km/h is more than 3,500rpm, I find it taxing on my engine on long distance.
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Can anyone who drove at Malaysia before share what is Vezel rpm when traveling around 130-150km/h?
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Thanks in Advance
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Hi All,
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I am considering to get this car, was doing some research here but there is too much post, read until 230am and only managed to cover 30% of it....
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Any Vezel owner here had drove to Malaysia?�
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I have a question on the rpm at high speed. As I drive to Malaysia a lot, with my current Honda City, 130km/h is slightly over 3,000 rpm and 140km/h is more than 3,500rpm, I find it taxing on my engine on long distance.
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Can anyone who drove at Malaysia before share what is Vezel rpm when traveling around 130-150km/h?
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Thanks in Advance
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if i'm gg in on sunday by tuas will let u know,wanna push the speed limit and see if i shud go delimit it
irritating dat jdm honda has to limit speed at 180km/h
i wonder why Subaru does not do that. However my ex-legacy gt wagon limited at 215km/h. That bugger cud have easily smashed past that speed,at near 210km/h u still feel decent acceleration.
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it'll be interesting to find out the limits for vezel
Edited by Rationalexuberance, 26 February 2015 - 10:30 AM.
Hi guys, it's my first post here but have been following this thread ever since I've decided to be an aspiring vezel-ian. In fact it will be my very first car purchase too. Very very greenhorn!
I'm looking at the blue vezel and wonder if you guys can give any opinions as to what color leather seats should suit best?
If fellow broses who already have the blue vezel maybe can share your valuable input?
My wife prefers tanned brown leather seats but I'm not sure if it'd suit the blue exterior. ..
Sorry, can't contribute much on the technical aspects car performance etc, can only ask at the aesthetics, but I hope to learn more from you guys!
Cheers and happy cny :)))
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Hi pspower, welcome to MCF.�
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This may not be the answer you're looking for though;
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Car seat leather can easily change, car seats can easily change, even cars can change, but wife, is for keeps, so...
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What Wife WANTS, Wife GETS.
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Translation - "since she'd already voiced out, what's a little compromise if it can make your significant other happy?"
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i have a blue vezel and we chose the typical greyish coloured leather seats as we feel it sits nicely against the blue exterior. actually, at different angles and at different times of the day, the exterior can look blueish, purplish or even a mixture of both!�
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Got a graphite-colored with blue threads for my ride....i left it to my wife to choose lah, to give her something to do while I chatted with SE. Anyway, got a hyperactive kid so was thinking a lighter colored seats might get pretty dirty easily...
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hahaha....sian right?
well, no choice....at least you get to benefit from a new car before others .. :)
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somehow i feel that more to come...but in terms of magnitude, probably same or lesser..
i think fair range should be 40-50k.
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anyway, good luck to all! only in singapore u punt your car purchase like punting the stock market.
Yup in other countries cars are no diff from any house hold appliances e.g washing machine, vaccum cleaner lol
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Hi pspower, welcome to MCF.�
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This may not be the answer you're looking for though;
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Car seat leather can easily change, car seats can easily change, even cars can change, but wife, is for keeps, so...
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What Wife WANTS, Wife GETS.
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Translation - "since she'd already voiced out, what's a little compromise if it can make your significant other happy?"
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P.S. Sorry, me = henpeck.�
My dream colour would be Maroon exterior with tanned brown interior damn conti siah.
Hi All,
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I am considering to get this car, was doing some research here but there is too much post, read until 230am and only managed to cover 30% of it....
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Any Vezel owner here had drove to Malaysia?�
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I have a question on the rpm at high speed. As I drive to Malaysia a lot, with my current Honda City, 130km/h is slightly over 3,000 rpm and 140km/h is more than 3,500rpm, I find it taxing on my engine on long distance.
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Can anyone who drove at Malaysia before share what is Vezel rpm when traveling around 130-150km/h?
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Thanks in Advance
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bro, this is my first time driving a higher stance car then my previous sedans, and I find that the crosswind effect is more obvious when driving in Malaysia. Especially passing trailers.�
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I'm wasn't noticing about the rpm at the moment, but after 120km/h no more Green Ring even light footed.
if i'm gg in on sunday by tuas will let u know,wanna push the speed limit and see if i shud go delimit it
irritating dat jdm honda has to limit speed at 180km/h
i wonder why Subaru does not do that. However my ex-legacy gt wagon limited at 215km/h. That bugger cud have easily smashed past that speed,at near 210km/h u still feel decent acceleration.�
it'll be interesting to find out the limits for vezel
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Thanks bro!
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bro, this is my first time driving a higher stance car then my previous sedans, and I find that the crosswind effect is more obvious when driving in Malaysia. Especially passing trailers.�
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I'm wasn't noticing about the rpm at the moment, but after 120km/h no more Green Ring even light footed.
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Edited by KaEN, 26 February 2015 - 11:09 AM.
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i have a blue vezel and we chose the typical greyish coloured leather seats as we feel it sits nicely against the blue exterior. actually, at different angles and at different times of the day, the exterior can look blueish, purplish or even a mixture of both!�
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I saw a blue vezel yesterday morning at CBP. If its you, Swee ride Bro!
if i'm gg in on sunday by tuas will let u know,wanna push the speed limit and see if i shud go delimit it
irritating dat jdm honda has to limit speed at 180km/h
i wonder why Subaru does not do that. However my ex-legacy gt wagon limited at 215km/h. That bugger cud have easily smashed past that speed,at near 210km/h u still feel decent acceleration.�
it'll be interesting to find out the limits for vezel
haha bro, dun chiong too fast else the road chips flies and hit the bumper spoiling your paintwork.�
haha bro, dun chiong too fast else the road chips flies and hit the bumper spoiling your paintwork.�
hehe..understooded.
just wanna test e car from time to time..car engine must zua also..those who zua everyday and change EO religiously have a pristine engine
Bro Bros....anyone can advise whether to use 0-30W or 5-30W for our new vezel?? Xiexie...:)
something�to share
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"< Naming Concept of VEZEL >
VEZEL is a name coined from an English word �bezel� which means the oblique faces of a cut gem together with the �V� for �vehicle.� The name represents Honda's passion to create a vehicle which offers multifaceted charm and value, just like a cut gem, which changes its look depending on the angle."
Hi guys wondering how much more KM can I cover with 3 Bar Left?
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bro.. your FC very good...hybrid?
bro.. your FC very good...hybrid?
No leh normal model G
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Hi pspower, welcome to MCF.�
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This may not be the answer you're looking for though;
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Car seat leather can easily change, car seats can easily change, even cars can change, but wife, is for keeps, so...
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What Wife WANTS, Wife GETS.
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Translation - "since she'd already voiced out, what's a little compromise if it can make your significant other happy?"
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P.S. Sorry, me = henpeck.�
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totally agreeing on letting wife make the final call. don't want to drive in future with her nagging on my left ear. thanks! think i will go with tanned brown leather :)
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have a noob question on FC. How do you guys actually calculate FC on the vezel? On my altis there is a panel which will indicate km/l.
Does Vezel have this?�
If you are doing manual calculation, do you simply divide total distance by 40L? Am asking this because usually I will pump when reserve light turns on.. and I do not know how many litres have I consumed at this point.
Advice?
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totally agreeing on letting wife make the final call. don't want to drive in future with her nagging on my left ear. thanks! think i will go with tanned brown leather :)
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have a noob question on FC. How do you guys actually calculate FC on the vezel? On my altis there is a panel which will indicate km/l.
Does Vezel have this?�
If you are doing manual calculation, do you simply divide total distance by 40L? Am asking this because usually I will pump when reserve light turns on.. and I do not know how many litres have I consumed at this point.
Advice?
I always pump auto-stop. When reserve light comes on, I pump back to auto stop level. See Km travel on your car dial for this tank. See number of litres pump on receipt. Do the division and you get km/l
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totally agreeing on letting wife make the final call. don't want to drive in future with her nagging on my left ear. thanks! think i will go with tanned brown leather :)
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have a noob question on FC. How do you guys actually calculate FC on the vezel? On my altis there is a panel which will indicate km/l.
Does Vezel have this?�
If you are doing manual calculation, do you simply divide total distance by 40L? Am asking this because usually I will pump when reserve light turns on.. and I do not know how many litres have I consumed at this point.
Advice?
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Yup, Vezel has the FC meter, as well as range meter....
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As for manual calculation, guess bros ans sis here will record the distance covered for last tank, and divide by the fuel consumed....tio boh?
I always pump auto-stop. When reserve light comes on, I pump back to auto stop level. See Km travel on your car dial for this tank. See number of litres pump on receipt. Do the division and you get km/l
i have a manual calculation list i kept in 2 small booklets since 2008. i calculate and write down everytime i pump.
From 1st hand 2.0L NA Tucson, to 2nd hand Legacy 2.0GT Wagon, to 2nd hand 2.4L NA Accord JDM (CU2), and now Vezel Hybrid.hee
i have a manual calculation list i kept in 2 small booklets since 2008. i calculate and write down everytime i pump.
From 1st hand 2.0L NA Tucson, to 2nd hand Legacy 2.0GT Wagon, to 2nd hand 2.4L NA Accord JDM (CU2), and now Vezel Hybrid.hee
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very tok gong! amazing....I gave up monitoring after one year....just simply aggar aggar from distance travelled
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totally agreeing on letting wife make the final call. don't want to drive in future with her nagging on my left ear. thanks! think i will go with tanned brown leather :)
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have a noob question on FC. How do you guys actually calculate FC on the vezel? On my altis there is a panel which will indicate km/l.
Does Vezel have this?�
If you are doing manual calculation, do you simply divide total distance by 40L? Am asking this because usually I will pump when reserve light turns on.. and I do not know how many litres have I consumed at this point.
Advice?
Bros there are Apps that you can download to help track the FC, Gas Manager or Oil Calculator. Try it!
No leh normal model G
what oil u pull?? engine oil?? lol....what is the FC bro?? full tank...750km?
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very tok gong! amazing....I gave up monitoring after one year....just simply aggar aggar from distance travelled
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Haha you and me both juice.
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I kept track for maybe the first 2 or 3 tanks (in my entire driving life) and hecked care ever since, the only thing I (roughly) keep track of is how many times I visited the petrol kiosk every month (through my credit card bills).�
Hi guys wondering how much more KM can I cover with 3 Bar Left?
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Press on the toggle stick near the dial until you see the display showing "Range". The indicated number would be the number of KM you could push the car further. Do note that this number fluctuates. Of course, there is always the trusted Yellow light LED that shows up when the fuel level is too low.�
i have a manual calculation list i kept in 2 small booklets since 2008. i calculate and write down everytime i pump.
From 1st hand 2.0L NA Tucson, to 2nd hand Legacy 2.0GT Wagon, to 2nd hand 2.4L NA Accord JDM (CU2), and now Vezel Hybrid.hee
Power..now petrol station dun like u liao. Pump so little.
i have a manual calculation list i kept in 2 small booklets since 2008. i calculate and write down everytime i pump.
From 1st hand 2.0L NA Tucson, to 2nd hand Legacy 2.0GT Wagon, to 2nd hand 2.4L NA Accord JDM (CU2), and now Vezel Hybrid.hee
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Impressive. Did you also indicate by the side what petrol was used for each pump?�
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So far, any insights?
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Bro,
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Press on the toggle stick near the dial until you see the display showing "Range". The indicated number would be the number of KM you could push the car further. Do note that this number fluctuates. Of course, there is always the trusted Yellow light LED that shows up when the fuel level is too low.�
Thanks Bro for the reply. As you notice I haven't clear my 1k service. And this is my 1st tank of petrol n didn't know that there will be indication light.
Thanks Bro for the reply. As you notice I haven't clear my 1k service. And this is my 1st tank of petrol n didn't know that there will be indication light.
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Bro, you really got to share how you could achieve 750Km with only 1 tank of petrol. I believe most of us will be wondering and salivating.�
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Bro, you really got to share how you could achieve 750Km with only 1 tank of petrol. I believe most of us will be wondering and salivating.�
No Leh...560KM with 3Bar Left...how to get 750KM?? Lol
Any bro have the vezel manual in English??
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I just manage to find the attached...not too clear...:)
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https://www.dropbox..../Vezel.pdf?dl=0
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Impressive. Did you also indicate by the side what petrol was used for each pump?�
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So far, any insights?
aiyoh..brand of petrol no leh haha..
mostly either shell in sg or caltex in jb..others rarely..only wen convenient or urgent
Power..now petrol station dun like u liao. Pump so little.
hiak hiak hiak
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very tok gong! amazing....I gave up monitoring after one year....just simply aggar aggar from distance travelled
my character flaw hehe.turn it into smeting useful
like buying car..i will try to dissect thoroughly all related costs n churn a deprec table to find yoy depre cost..not simply divide by remaining yrs
I always pump auto-stop. When reserve light comes on, I pump back to auto stop level. See Km travel on your car dial for this tank. See number of litres pump on receipt. Do the division and you get km/l
i pump until cannot pump anymore haha..to e brim..slowly squirt squirt
hiak hiak hiak
my character flaw hehe.turn it into smeting useful
like buying car..i will try to dissect thoroughly all related costs n churn a deprec table to find yoy depre cost..not simply divide by remaining yrs
i pump until cannot pump anymore haha..to e brim..slowly squirt squirt
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i also like to pump full full then slowly squirt squirt to the max�
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btw for one bar to drop for FC from full tank how far a distance have any of u managed?
i did 1 bar at best 145-150km in the beginning
now can do only 135 to 140km
subsequently the 9th to 8th to 7th bar drops like 40 to 60km intervals
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Edited by Soonkuay76, 26 February 2015 - 04:25 PM.
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i also like to pump full full then slowly squirt squirt to the max�
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btw for one bar to drop for FC from full tank how far a distance have any of u managed?
i did 1 bar at best 145-150km in the beginning
now can do only 135 to 140km
subsequently the 9th to 8th to 7th bar drops like 40 to 60km intervals
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1st bar abt 170-190km if i'm not wrong.
oh but my hybrid bars measurements may differ. different dashboard altogether
i can get 750km for full tank easily 50/50 driving with occasional full throttle
my next aim by driving normally on normal mode is to hit 800plus km for for full tank. during hot weather,fc drops alot
1st bar abt 170-190km if i'm not wrong.
oh but my hybrid bars measurements may differ. different dashboard altogether
i can get 750km for full tank easily 50/50 driving with occasional full throttle
my next aim by driving normally on normal mode is to hit 800plus km for for full tank. during hot weather,fc drops alot
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yah hybrid better milage bro! my friend's prius can tong 800++ hope u can achieve that too
mine normal petrol engine but always trying many ways to reduce FC haha , but am already very happy with the earth dreams engine
so much better than my golf and colt r in terms of fuel efficency
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i also like to pump full full then slowly squirt squirt to the max�
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btw for one bar to drop for FC from full tank how far a distance have any of u managed?
i did 1 bar at best 145-150km in the beginning
now can do only 135 to 140km
subsequently the 9th to 8th to 7th bar drops like 40 to 60km intervals
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My understanding is that pumping too full will stress the fuel filter...likewise if run the tank till close to empty...
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yah hybrid better milage bro! my friend's prius can tong 800++ hope u can achieve that too
mine normal petrol engine but always trying many ways to reduce FC haha , but am already very happy with the earth dreams engine
so much better than my golf and colt r in terms of fuel efficency
prius designed for super petrol savings..confirmed can go further..haha..but i am enjoying not 100pct of 1 world, buy 85pct of both worlds,very very happy. both sporty drive and good fc.
not saying which car is better..but see what we want. i have a firm belief hybrid tech is e way to go..electric motor is like a turbo booster for the car. if they can wack a 100bhp electric motor in the vezel..plus the 130bhp LEB engine..shiokness man..i dun mind having a 150-200kg battery pack behind. can go further n faster
Hi, any Bros has the latest price list�for the HRV from Kah motor?
Thanks
Kah Motor having $13k discount. Don't know what's the catch? Haha
i noticed even the tyre portion side was not properly covered up, any ideas what and how to go about doing it ?
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The under carriage panel can be taken out its in 2 pics ...then you can see the bare metal of the under carriage.thats of course you have to go workshop to jack up the car.
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Bro,
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Gotten my X model, stock 16"rims, eco mode for 8months and averaging at about 13-14km/l.
Not too far from yours.
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Basically, i travel relatively short distances on highway and daily commute involves lots of stops & jams.
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Tyre pressure is 210/200 or less(as i did not bother to check/pump).
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Anyway, planning to increase to 230 after my wife give birth in a month's time. The ride will be too rough for her now.
Also to change engine oil from 0w50 to 30 during next servicing.
Not bad ya your FC as you are mostly on short distances. mine is 50:50 highway n city drive but being seeing consistent increase in FC over the past few tanks.
Should i send in my car for check? lol i never hit more than 480km per tank. And to be exact, i think i only hit once 480km on my first tank and its getting from bad to worst as my last tank hit a little bit more than 400km.... sounds really bad but something isn't right... especially after my 1st 1000km servicing, i realise FC gets higher... will it be something to do with engine oil?
What are the brand and specs?
Finally!! This mega Vezel thread deserves to be pinned.
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Hopefully when the COE comes down to 50K or below, I may finally bite the bullet and buy the Vezel, over the Qashqai.
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I'm curious though that some PIs registered new Vezels to sell as second-hand units... why? Financing? Some loophole I'm blur about?
its X model.... everything stock except for 17inch rim
I mean your eng oil bro. And how many litres of petrol did you pump each time? If assuming u pump 36l, 480km is about 13.3km/l. If it is 16 inch, you may get 14 and above. So seems ok to me. But since you did mention a decrease of fc after your 1k servicing which usually just change the eng oil and filter, and if it is using mineral oil, it is possible to have a decrease in fc. Until you use synthetic at 10k then prob it may get better. Im a noob too but this is just what I experience for all my past rides.
Edited by Andyngps, 26 February 2015 - 06:54 PM.
I mean your eng oil bro. And how many litres of petrol did you pump each time? If assuming u pump 36l, 480km is about 13.3km/l. If it is 16 inch, you may get 14 and above. So seems ok to me. But since you did mention a decrease of fc after your 1k servicing which usually just change the eng oil and filter, and if it is using mineral oil, it is possible to have a decrease in fc. Until you use synthetic at 10k then prob it may get better. Im a noob too but this is just what I experience for all my past rides.
oh sorry for the wrong info.... hmm i usually pump around 38l +- .... hmm ya FC is definately going up since my 1st tank...
I will check it out what engine oil is used cos i never ask during my 1st servicing... I'm really noob when it comes to car :p i suspect it could be due to the engine oil ya maybe
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I saw a blue vezel yesterday morning at CBP. If its you, Swee ride Bro!
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no, not me � . but yes, swee!
Finally!! This mega Vezel thread deserves to be pinned.
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Hopefully when the COE comes down to 50K or below, I may finally bite the bullet and buy the Vezel, over the Qashqai.
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I'm curious though that some PIs registered new Vezels to sell as second-hand units... why? Financing? Some loophole I'm blur about?
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I think you should book the Vezel now, and agree on the price based on $50K COE.� Otherwise, once the COE goes down to below $50K, many ppl may rush in and COE will go up.� You may miss the boat then.
Should i send in my car for check? lol i never hit more than 480km per tank. And to be exact, i think i only hit once 480km on my first tank and its getting from bad to worst as my last tank hit a little bit more than 400km.... sounds really bad but something isn't right... especially after my 1st 1000km servicing, i realise FC gets higher... will it be something to do with engine oil?
wat engine oil was used?
usually right after a servicing, the next 200km or so,fc sux big time. i duno why is this so even for the right engine oil. experienced this all e time for my 2 ex-cars.oh sorry for the wrong info.... hmm i usually pump around 38l +- .... hmm ya FC is definately going up since my 1st tank...
I will check it out what engine oil is used cos i never ask during my 1st servicing... I'm really noob when it comes to car :p i suspect it could be due to the engine oil ya maybe
a wild guess is even after using back the same manufacture recommended w20 engine oil,after a servicing ur engine will naturally experience less friction,more revvy and smooth. But ECU is still signalling to spray more petrol into the chambers as needed in pre-servicing ignition. need some time for ECU to adjust to lean out e petrol injection and fc goes back to normal.
the next full tank shud see improvement. however if w40 oil was used..habis
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My understanding is that pumping too full will stress the fuel filter...likewise if run the tank till close to empty...
i heard safety precautions also abt not pumping too full,but not of fuel filter. if that's true,wud wanna find out what reason n wat goes on inside the whole injection system from tank to engine
Edited by Rationalexuberance, 26 February 2015 - 07:49 PM.
HRV specs.
Bro. Rez like censored leh...cannot see the specs...
hi guys, any comments about Swift Garage? so far haven't seen a lot of purchase from this PI before...
ok to get the Vezel from them if package is good?
Edited by pspower, 26 February 2015 - 09:41 PM.
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Sorry. Im noob in this also
Edited by Justbear, 26 February 2015 - 09:56 PM.
Eh? How come the HRV has only 2 x 3-pt seat belt in the rear, when Vezel has all 3 as 3-pt belts?? All the more reason NOT to buy from Kah Motor = more expensive, OMV not unnecessarily higher and less equipment???
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Then again, I have owned a PI Honda before and was very very happy with it for 8 1/2 years.
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Also to change engine oil from 0w50 to 30 during next servicing.
Bro, u sure kah? 0w50? Change to w30 and feel the difference. I find using w30 is super good, more quiet and better FC.
Edited by Dino-Lee, 26 February 2015 - 10:51 PM.
bro, this is my first time driving a higher stance car then my previous sedans, and I find that the crosswind effect is more obvious when driving in Malaysia. Especially passing trailers.�
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I'm wasn't noticing about the rpm at the moment, but after 120km/h no more Green Ring even light footed.
Same experience with u when driving in Malaysia highway. Best FC is between 80-100km/h.
All 3 models do not have LED headlights.
Eh? How come the HRV has only 2 x 3-pt seat belt in the rear, when Vezel has all 3 as 3-pt belts?? All the more reason NOT to buy from Kah Motor = more expensive, OMV not unnecessarily higher and less equipment???
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Then again, I have owned a PI Honda before and was very very happy with it for 8 1/2 years.
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Every PI is purchase with risk. Old or new Pi same theory. Of course new Pi higher risk same as Cb Volks auto. If PI demand more than 10k deposit then leave. Die die put 2k deposit first, if they want your business they will accept, then when bidding COE then issue cashier order 10k for bidding then check one motoring web to confirm coe under your name to be safe. That's my advice.hi guys, any comments about Swift Garage? so far haven't seen a lot of purchase from this PI before...
ok to get the Vezel from them if package is good?
Edited by Stone78, 26 February 2015 - 11:47 PM.
Vezel Hybrid can achieve 18km/l easily in real world usage, but on much larger and draggier 215/55/17 Sport tyres and heavy rims. Also, the body design isn't as slippery as the Prius, with the Vezel being a tall body with substantially higher drag coefficient.
To achieve this kind of FC shouts volumes about the maturity of Honda hybrid technology, and it's willingness to be the David vs the goliath known as Toyota. Full marks for effort!
Prius has a 45L fuel tank, so naturally it can go further. Real world Prius FC is around 19-20km/l, but they are using Eco tyres of 195/65/15 size, 15", with top class rolling resistance.
Vezel Hybrid can achieve 18km/l easily in real world usage, but on much larger and draggier 215/55/17 Sport tyres and heavy rims. Also, the body design isn't as slippery as the Prius, with the Vezel being a tall body with substantially higher drag coefficient.
To achieve this kind of FC shouts volumes about the maturity of Honda hybrid technology, and it's willingness to be the David vs the goliath known as Toyota. Full marks for effort!
Thanks to you bro,we made the right choice!
it's a NEW EXPERIENCE every single time i take Little Green Monster for a ride!
Stone78, on 26 Feb 2015 - 11:45 PM, said:Every PI is purchase with risk. Old or new Pi same theory. Of course new Pi higher risk same as Cb Volks auto. If PI demand more than 10k deposit then leave. Die die put 2k deposit first, if they want your business they will accept, then when bidding COE then issue cashier order 10k for bidding then check one motoring web to confirm coe under your name to be safe. That's my advice.
Good Advice.
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Best is zero deposit. You sign indemnity form. They put in bid for COE, if secured, you then pay them the $10K.
This is a win win situation for both new PI and for customer protection.
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Best is zero deposit. You sign indemnity form. They put in bid for COE, if secured, you then pay them the $10K.
This is a win win situation for both new PI and for customer protection.
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So far, any PI willing to do that?
5k should be a reasonable deposit for both customer and PI.... But of course, as a customer, best is zero deposit :)
Credor, on 27 Feb 2015 - 06:33 AM, said:Credor, on 27 Feb 2015 - 06:33 AM, said:Credor, on 27 Feb 2015 - 06:33 AM, said:Credor, on 27 Feb 2015 - 06:33 AM, said:So far, any PI willing to do that?
5k should be a reasonable deposit for both customer and PI.... But of course, as a customer, best is zero deposit :)
Bro you never�ask you never know.
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There is as low as $2K and $0DP, �going on right now.
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Yes I know there�is new PI out there is doing $0 DP.
Ask around and agree on the terms.�
The terms should be fair to both parties.
One�might get lucky for your dp protection.
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LIke i said earlier, This is a win win for both.
New PI being given a chance to provide competitive pricing and delivery.
Car buyers have peace of mind with deposit and not risk losing it if both parties stick to the agreed terms.
Edited by trajet2b, 27 February 2015 - 06:50 AM.
Every PI is purchase with risk. Old or new Pi same theory. Of course new Pi higher risk same as Cb Volks auto. If PI demand more than 10k deposit then leave. Die die put 2k deposit first, if they want your business they will accept, then when bidding COE then issue cashier order 10k for bidding then check one motoring web to confirm coe under your name to be safe. That's my advice.
Bro. From what I gathered, it is different now. Most PI requires a deposit of 10K and above. In the past it is still possible to book at 2-5k. In any case so many bros collected their rides from the list of PIs listed. So just go for those. If it is too good to be true, usually it is.
HRV spec
Just for the engine itself, I would go for jdm DOHC.
All 3 models do not have LED headlights.
Good for Vezel owner as it is more chio and sporty�as compare to HRV.
I also wonder what Kah Motors is thinking!? AD price is already higher than PI and yet bring in HRV with lower specs and looks.
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How to compete to PI Vezel � Unless they throw in 5 or 10 years free maintenance like what BM and C&C (for their K3)
Edited by IloveVezel, 27 February 2015 - 08:44 AM.
Good for Vezel owner as it is more chio and sporty�as compare to HRV.
I also wonder what Kah Motors is thinking!? AD price is already higher than PI and yet bring in HRV with lower specs and looks.
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How to compete to PI Vezel� Unless they throw in 5 or 10 years free maintenance like what BM and C&C (for their K3)
No DRL too right? Even their so call 5 yrs free servicing you will need to pay one. They will tell you the free servicing does not cover certain stuff. Some even say only free labour. Must really get them to tell you the fine prints.
i have a manual calculation list i kept in 2 small booklets since 2008. i calculate and write down everytime i pump.
From 1st hand 2.0L NA Tucson, to 2nd hand Legacy 2.0GT Wagon, to 2nd hand 2.4L NA Accord JDM (CU2), and now Vezel Hybrid.hee
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Bro. From what I gathered, it is different now. Most PI requires a deposit of 10K and above. In the past it is still possible to book at 2-5k. In any case so many bros collected their rides from the list of PIs listed. So just go for those. If it is too good to be true, usually it is.
Just for the engine itself, I would go for jdm DOHC.
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Ian from swift told me after they helped a few Volks Auto clients get their rides at near cost, now they dun take deposit for car.
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Only 10k deposit when going for COE bidding soon. All that is needed to firm the details of the deal is an in-principle approval of loan to prove credit worthiness of client. Final balance downpayment upon registration of vehicle.
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I think so far this is 2nd best practice to mitigate risk.
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Can further delay payment of 10k deposit, mayb 1 day b4 COE bidding and they must start bidding once deposit paid. I think the industry should set a rule, or we can add clauses in the SA, that bidding must take place once 10k deposit received. Cannot chin chai hold the money till 3rd bid or 4th bid.
So far, any PI willing to do that?
5k should be a reasonable deposit for both customer and PI.... But of course, as a customer, best is zero deposit :)
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IMO best is whatever high deposit they can collect, but engage a 3rd party bank as a custodian to the funds.
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Until paperwork is done up and endorsed by both parties, bank verify, then can proceed to take the money already deposited into the temporary transaction account.
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Lehcheh, but can be very fast as well, depending on Bank's effectiveness. Since you have many deals a mth, the bank can dedicate human resource to such transactions.
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Pte OTC shares and securities trading platforms also functions this way. When we click on BUY or SELL, a contract is initiated willingly, this triggers the right for the institute to attain claim of funds deposited in the acct monitored by the bank.
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Even clients cannot chin chai withdraw back the money, have to request and prove with paperwork.
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Ian from swift told me after they helped a few Volks Auto clients get their rides at near cost, now they dun take deposit for car.
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Only 10k deposit when going for COE bidding soon. All that is needed to firm the details of the deal is an in-principle approval of loan to prove credit worthiness of client. Final balance downpayment upon registration of vehicle.
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I think so far this is 2nd best practice to mitigate risk.
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Can further delay payment of 10k deposit, mayb 1 day b4 COE bidding and they must start bidding once deposit paid. I think the industry should set a rule, or we can add clauses in the SA, that bidding must take place once 10k deposit received. Cannot chin chai hold the money till 3rd bid or 4th bid.
Agreed. But so far for mine, they already started bidding right at first bid. So bobian still need to give the 10K first. Maybe LTA or they should practice an auto email send to you to inform you that your bid has been submitted. Then this will also rid those smelly traders for telling you 4 or 6 bids but never bid until the last.
Good for Vezel owner as it is more chio and sporty�as compare to HRV.
I also wonder what Kah Motors is thinking!? AD price is already higher than PI and yet bring in HRV with lower specs and looks.
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I pity KM, and i lagi pity vege heads who die die trust AD and buy from them. sigh.
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in this case it's not about opinions anymore, it's about comparing fact to fact, deal to deal side by side.
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btw, BM dropped their 5yr maintenance (max 12 times servicing) recently after COE dropped.
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why would you pay the same price, let alone 10k more, for less accessories and a dated engine just for the sake of "credibility" of the AD. If KM brings in JDM, everything same specs, bring in original accessories to compete, then i will seriously consider, despite the ugly sounding name
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Agreed. But so far for mine, they already started bidding right at first bid. So bobian still need to give the 10K first. Maybe LTA or they should practice an auto email send to you to inform you that your bid has been submitted. Then this will also rid those smelly traders for telling you 4 or 6 bids but never bid until the last.
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yah man!! i like the point on LTa sending email, or sms once the deposit is paid under your name plus when your bid is submitted
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IMO i do not agree that there i such thing as free. Everything is factor in the selling price.You buy high, you get more "free" stuff. You buy low, you get less. The 5 years free servicing is factor into the selling price.
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Just imagine, previously normal package is free first 3 servicing and 3 years or 60K km warranty. There are many people that will find own workshop after first 3 servicing and even more after the 3 years warranty. I did the same, using only AD workshop when changing parts and using own workshop for normal servicing.
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Super agree with this. Even for deals with PIs, you take on more loans, u get more freebies certainly. You take on no loan, you have to be very good with your negotiation skill to get more out from them.
Edited by Vroomvroom, 27 February 2015 - 11:33 AM.
Bro. From what I gathered, it is different now. Most PI requires a deposit of 10K and above. In the past it is still possible to book at 2-5k. In any case so many bros collected their rides from the list of PIs listed. So just go for those. If it is too good to be true, usually it is.
Just for the engine itself, I would go for jdm DOHC.
Now Pi Standard practice is 10k down but if they really want your business then they will consider lower deposit. They don't want them look for other PI. Don't let those notorious Pi earn our hard earn money if buay song.
have another silly question� , hopefully any bro/sis can provide advice...
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it's regarding warning of the car engine temperature.
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when we start the car, the blue warning light comes on for a few seconds, then goes off. this indicates that the car is suitably cooled and not overheated.
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if i'm not wrong, the Vezel console (see photo showing 22 degree C) displays the temperature of the interior of the car right? it does not reflect the car engine temperature, right?
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so now, how to tell? only when the warning light comes on as red? will there be amber light? will that be too late?
Edited by Dswm, 27 February 2015 - 12:04 PM.
Now Pi Standard practice is 10k down but if they really want your business then they will consider lower deposit. They don't want them look for other PI. Don't let those notorious Pi earn our hard earn money if buay song.
True bro. But most PI may not adhere. Reason being if say deposit is only 2k or lesser than 5k, they do run into risk of customers giving up the ride say if in the event of coe decreasing significantly.
Super agree with this. Even for deals with PIs, you take on more loans, u get more freebies certainly. You take on no loan, you have to be very good with your negotiation skill to get more out from them.
the real free stuff is to eat into their margins..still very profitable
dun get me wrong though..not against PIs or dealers..friends afterall
forum participants comprise of..say..20-30pct of car owners in sg at best?
many other vege heads to kena chop. this balances out the high average margins for dealers
True bro. But most PI may not adhere. Reason being if say deposit is only 2k or lesser than 5k, they do run into risk of customers giving up the ride say if in the event of coe decreasing significantly.
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customer giving up the ride PI also didnt lugi anything bcoz deposit wont be refund back and Car still can sell to others. If PI run road then we lose our money and nobody will pity us even our fantastic gov cant do much so we now must protect ourselves. Too many types of scams around these days.
Edited by Stone78, 27 February 2015 - 12:57 PM.
They will lugi if say they bid for your coe successfully or they ordered the car and increase their inventory. I mean that's what I heard lah. I agreed also because of the scam a lot of us are not protected. I would see government having a more conceited effort to put this to an end. I know it will never happen but perhaps the deposit can go into a bank that partnered with the PI and held on custody.�
customer giving up the ride PI also didnt lugi anything bcoz deposit wont be refund back and Car still can sell to others. If PI run road then we lose our money and nobody will pity us even our fantastic gov cant do much so we now must protect ourselves. Too many types of scams around these days.
Edited by Andyngps, 27 February 2015 - 01:13 PM.
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it's regarding warning of the car engine temperature.
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when we start the car, the blue warning light comes on for a few seconds, then goes off. this indicates that the car is suitably cooled and not overheated.
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if i'm not wrong, the Vezel console (see photo showing 22 degree C) displays the temperature of the interior of the car right? it does not reflect the car engine temperature, right?
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so now, how to tell? only when the warning light comes on as red? will there be amber light? will that be too late?
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dun be silly bro, to say yourself silly, as there are no silly questions. So you are not silly �:0)
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-blue light if i'm not wrong lites up when we 1st start the car in the morning cold. This shows we shud let the engine idle a while to heat up aqeduately. Once blue indicator goes off, means suitable to start driving as the engine oil is warm and runny enough to coat all metal contact parts internally.
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- the 22 degC should be ambient temperature..i.e outside air temperature
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-i understand your concerns on temperature level of honda cars, i would prefer a gauge to show the heat too. may wanna get an ALL-IN-ONE electronic gauge to show vital signs of the car. Someone shared previously in this chatroom where we can use our smartphones to link wirelessly and get a live data screen. Don't like the ahbeng gauges that flood the dashboard; have to drill and screw onto dashbard too..damaging it, to me that's plain stupid. If we really have to wait for a red warning lite to show overheating, dats really a bit too late.
Edited by Rationalexuberance, 27 February 2015 - 01:22 PM.
They will lugi if say they bid for your coe successfully or they ordered the car and increase their inventory. I mean that's what I heard lah. I agreed also because of the scam a lot of us are not protected. I would see government having a more conceited effort to put this to an end. I know it will never happen but perhaps the deposit can go into a bank that partnered with the PI and held on custody.
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Maybe the PI could consider progressive payment just like the property developers. It would give us the piece of mind and the cash flow the PI needs. I would not mind paying a bit of admin for this facility. PI should listen to customers' voices and innovate to get more business.
have another silly question�
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it's regarding warning of the car engine temperature.
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when we start the car, the blue warning light comes on for a few seconds, then goes off. this indicates that the car is suitably cooled and not overheated.
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if i'm not wrong, the Vezel console (see photo showing 22 degree C) displays the temperature of the interior of the car right? it does not reflect the car engine temperature, right?
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in my previous ride, there was the engine temperature dial showing a needle between 'Cold & 'Hot', so it was quite easy to tell if the car will be overheating.�
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so now, how to tell? only when the warning light comes on as red? will there be amber light? will that be too late?
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If I am not wrong, the 22 degree C is outside temperature, not interior or engine temperature. As Vezel do not have temperature gauge for water, overheating of the engine is only made known when the warning light turns red. When it is blue, as when we are starting�up car, it shows that the engine is cool. After warming up, the blue light will go off.
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As most of the engines of cars are made of aluminium now, a lot of the engines will already be super hot when the water temperature warning light turns red. Once red, you better stop straight away. Do not try to carry on a bit more. I have experiences that my previous car's engine cracked once the red warning light turns on. Not a very good warning system. Once red, get ready to change engine. Aluminium engines are weaker when dealing with overheating problems.
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Not sure how Vezel's warning system work, I will believe it will roughly be the same. So I insist to transfer my water temperature meter from my previous car over to my Vezel, so I can monitor if the water temperature starts climbing out of nowhere.
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Hope this helps.
Edited by GetzGT, 27 February 2015 - 01:24 PM.
Are we suppose to get any confirmation letter or notice letter or something that after our PI tell us that they had secured our COE bidding?
Thanks.
Hi bros,
Are we suppose to get any confirmation letter or notice letter or something that after our PI tell us that they had secured our COE bidding?
Thanks.
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Likely 80pct of the time you wun hear even the sound of a pin drop from them.
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Have to call and call and find proof hehe
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Any Vezel Owners in West Area? I just like to sit in one and have a feel of the ride before committing to the purchase.
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Hi bros,
Are we suppose to get any confirmation letter or notice letter or something that after our PI tell us that they had secured our COE bidding?
Thanks.
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Not sure what is the practice of your PI. My PI, when secured my COE, he will call me to ask me to log in onemotoring to check on my COE using Singpass log in. He needs me to give him the COE number so he can then register the car for a license plate number with LTA.
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COE will be under our name and not the PI.
Hello,
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Any Vezel Owners in West Area? I just like to sit in one and have a feel of the ride before committing to the purchase.
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�5min drive to west coast mac
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HI ALL!! LET'S HAVE A VEZEL OWNER / POTENTIAL OWNER meet up!!
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1st MARCH Sunday 8.30/9.00 pm West Coast Macdonalds?
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free parking, nice long wide road for a spin! And full throttle 0-100 tests!
Edited by Rationalexuberance, 27 February 2015 - 01:32 PM.
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