mycarforum: Honda Vezel part 44

Hi Bro Dino, with regards to your doubt on the Elect. Hand Brake...

I tried activated the Electronic-Brake during driving (at slow speed cos dunno what gonna happen) and release it, I noted that it seems to be deactivated the moment I release my hand. And the car can still drove off, still in the "D" mode. So it does brake the car but in lighter force, just like you controlling the Mech type Hand-Brake.

I tried again activating the Elect-Brake & HELD on to it, during driving situation (slow speed again), it will hold as long as my finger is pulling the button, just like the Mech-Hand Brake, until the car completely stopped.

So in clonclusion, the Electronic Hand Brake function just like the Mech Hand Brake, except that you cannot control the pressure / force of the Brake like a Mech type where the harder you pull the harder it brakes. The Elect. Hand Brake will release as soon as you release your finger off the button. And the Elect. Hand Brake force is not so hard as compare to the Mech. type.

Safety Note : For those who wish to try out, pls do so in a "deserted" Car Park. �

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Wow bro, thanks for the testing. Great relieve to read this. [thumbsup] � �

I tried a few times & perceived the following :

1. If your foot is on the Brake pedal, it would not work. (Cos it means that you are in control & decision of how near you want to close in).

2. It is relative to speed to determine the CTBA kick-in distance.

If anyone has confirmed this, do share with us.

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yo bro, you are right on #1 and 2. To add on #2, like what Soonkuay said, if your foot at throttle, CTBA will kick in.

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i know it has been discussed b4 regarding the CEV coefficient of 0.92.

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When is the exact date of implementation?

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Is it a confirmed thing that Vezel CVT will enjoy 15k rebate after the implementation?

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And for potential buyers who are not rush, would you want to consider that rebate if you know the date. If delivery of car will be after that date, should add a clause in the sales agreement if you book anytime soon, that any additional rebate implemented, savings passed directly to buyer.

bro Rationalexuberance,

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I agree with you. New buyer should ask for in writing that what they are paying now is current CEV Rebate of $10K

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If upon registration, CEV $15K (or less) be accorded, then PI must reimburse for the lower PARF value.

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New buyers do take note on this.

Hi Aarcee,

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Welcome to the forum. I am pretty new myself and like you, I came because I am looking for a new ride. I think yours is more of a finance question so hopefully the following is useful.

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There are various loan / lease types available, from 50% ~ 80%, at varying interest rates from 1.8% ~ 2.5% P.A., with different repayment periods from 5 to 7 years. As there are 3 different sub-models of the Vezel (more if you count the Hybrid) selling at different prices, we shall take $120,000.00 for simple reference.

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If you are taking a 50% loan, you will be paying 1/2, or $60,000.00 down payment upfront, and assuming a 5-year loan at 2% interest P.A., you will be paying around $1,150.00 monthly for 5 years, or roughly $130,000.00 in total.

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If you are taking a 80% loan, you will be paying 20%, or $24,000.00 down payment upfront, and assuming a 7-year loan at 2% interest P.A., you will be paying around $1,350.00 monthly for 7 years, or roughly $137,500.00 in total.

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Most PIs require $10k payment to start your COE bidding process, and some will ask for additional deposit like 10% of the car price, all these have to be paid upon booking and will count towards your down payment, with the rest payable when your car is ready for collection. Go talk to as many PIs as you can / like and shortlist those whose packages you feel most comfortable with.

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Talking about PIs, there are many good PIs around, but it only takes one Volks Auto to spoil your day, so you really need to be careful and do your homework diligently. Even if I am to tell you right here right now XXX is a really good and responsible PI with fair prices, how do you know I am not just one of their employees masquerading as a helpful forumer trying to scam you?

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If you need something as a starting point, there's an excellent post-chain right here on this thread listing down all the people here who has either collected or booked their rides and from there you can see who are the PIs that consistently delivers and pleases. You can also find other excellent advises over the pages as well as on other threads; what to look out for when booking, what to ask and what to reject etc., do spend some time to go through them if you can.�

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Golden rule; cheap is not always good and price is not everything.

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The above is just a feel of what you can expect, most PIs are opened to discussions and negotiations, and how far you manage to go will really depend on your bargaining skills. Hope this helps.

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Good luck to us both on our car hunt.�

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Thanks Bro, that's a good reply and appreciate taking time for this. Been to two PI's still confused whether to go ahead or not. The initial payment of 40% worries me a bit... �on another note .. seriously thinking whether to go for a 2nd hand or not... because i may be not be here for long ( probably another 3 years ) .

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any bro's to suggest. �As of now dont think anybody can predict the resale value of Vezel and if i go for a second hand car now ... then all the added risk of not knowing how the car is...cost of servicing/parts etc.. �Sorry if i deviate from the forum topics.. but thats the actual worry i am going through...�

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regards

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bro Rationalexuberance,

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I agree with you. New buyer should ask for in writing that what they are paying now is current CEV Rebate of $10K

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If upon registration, CEV $15K (or less) be accorded, then PI must reimburse for the lower PARF value.

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New buyers do take note on this.

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bro..honda vezel now cev rebate only 10K?? 113g/km should be 15k right?

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CO2 emission 113 g/km (As tested by LTA)

I'm thinking of ordering Vezel 1.5 S. Anyone heard of Zion Auto Gallery Sin Ming, as their pricing is the lowest among other PIs. Appreciate your'll advice.�

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bro..honda vezel now cev rebate only 10K?? 113g/km should be 15k right?

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CO2 emission 113 g/km (As tested by LTA)
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bro,

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We are talking about the CEV Fixed Coefficient of 0.92 formula

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PI with a minimum of 5 vehicles in a single Bill Lading can apply to have the above new formula used to upgrade from current band A3 to A2.�

I tried a few times & perceived the following :

1. If your foot is on the Brake pedal, it would not work. (Cos it means that you are in control & decision of how near you want to close in).

2. It is relative to speed to determine the CTBA kick-in distance.

If anyone has confirmed this, do share with us.

TIA �

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I have the same experience as what you had described. Another thing which I like to highlight is that the sensors is field of view is a little wider than the car body. As such, it could activate when you try to filter into the next lane because you are stuck in the current which is not moving. The trick is not to stop too close the the car in front of you. Even if you could manoeuvre out, the CTBA sensor may still detect a "close" obstacle.

I'm thinking of ordering Vezel 1.5 S. Anyone heard of Zion Auto Gallery Sin Ming, as their pricing is the lowest among other PIs. Appreciate your'll advice.�

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My friend bought an S from Regal Motors. The price is good and delivery is fast.

Although�they represent Lorisner, they do sell Vezel too

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do check them out

https://www.facebook...200962713434990

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take your time. do not rush

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My friend bought an S from Regal Motors. The price is good and delivery is fast.

Although�they represent Lorisner, they do sell Vezel too

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do check them out

https://www.facebook...200962713434990

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take your time. do not rush

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Thanks Bro,

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But i'm just curious that Zion Auto's pricing for X & S models are generally $4000 to $10,000 lower than others.

I had called and asked, they seems providing most of the accessories that others also provides.

The only different is they only provide 1 years warranty.

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Would like to know if they are the right PIs to go with:)

Anyone here has got their Vezel from them:)

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Thanks.�

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i know it has been discussed b4 regarding the CEV coefficient of 0.92.
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When is the exact date of implementation?
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Is it a confirmed thing that Vezel CVT will enjoy 15k rebate after the implementation?
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And for potential buyers who are not rush, would you want to consider that rebate if you know the date. If delivery of car will be after that date, should add a clause in the sales agreement if you book anytime soon, that any additional rebate implemented, savings passed directly to buyer.

My Vezel was registered in late Dec 14 and had a CEVS of $15k. My PI was pushing for the higher CEVS and I had additional rebates. It could be due to the 0.92 coefficient. However, his recent batches of vezel did not manage to get the $15k CEVS.

So still unclear how this thing works.

I'm thinking of ordering Vezel 1.5 S. Anyone heard of Zion Auto Gallery Sin Ming, as their pricing is the lowest among other PIs. Appreciate your'll advice.�

my frens also saw that low price but they afraid is another volks auto

My Vezel was registered in late Dec 14 and had a CEVS of $15k. My PI was pushing for the higher CEVS and I had additional rebates. It could be due to the 0.92 coefficient. However, his recent batches of vezel did not manage to get the $15k CEVS.

So still unclear how this thing works.

was it shown in ur log card and were u given the additional savings of 5k? becos it seems all prices now assume CEV 10K rebate for vezel X or S

My Vezel was registered in late Dec 14 and had a CEVS of $15k. My PI was pushing for the higher CEVS and I had additional rebates. It could be due to the 0.92 coefficient. However, his recent batches of vezel did not manage to get the $15k CEVS.

So still unclear how this thing works.

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the $15K CEVS rebate experience is so typical of our friends working in stat boards.....

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did you get a $5K reduction in your car price? which PI did you get your car from?

My Vezel was registered in late Dec 14 and had a CEVS of $15k. My PI was pushing for the higher CEVS and I had additional rebates. It could be due to the 0.92 coefficient. However, his recent batches of vezel did not manage to get the $15k CEVS.

So still unclear how this thing works.

Which version is yours? Hybrid? Hybrid is A2 ($15K)

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minimum ARF payable is $5K.

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like i said there is certain restriction (min 5 vehicels in single bill lading) to appy for the fixed Coefficient 0.92 factor.

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anyway if your current co2 value x 0.92 is within the same band there is no upgrade.

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This is for those with co2 readings like 129 or so...(129x0.92 is 118 which will go into the different band)

Edited by trajet2b, 11 February 2015 - 06:27 PM.

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Thanks Bro,

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But i'm just curious that Zion Auto's pricing for X & S models are generally $4000 to $10,000 lower than others.

I had called and asked, they seems providing most of the accessories that others also provides.

The only different is they only provide 1 years warranty.

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Would like to know if they are the right PIs to go with:)

Anyone here has got their Vezel from them:)

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Thanks.�

Seriously,

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i would not give a second thought if it is $10K cheaper

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Thanks Bro,

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But i'm just curious that Zion Auto's pricing for X & S models are generally $4000 to $10,000 lower than others.

I had called and asked, they seems providing most of the accessories that others also provides.

The only different is they only provide 1 years warranty.

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Would like to know if they are the right PIs to go with:)

Anyone here has got their Vezel from them:)

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Thanks.�

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my enquiry and their response�from them left me with a decision to stay far away from them...... personal conclusion -�value your $$ :)

Edited by Vantivetech, 11 February 2015 - 06:55 PM.

Hi vezelians,

May I know wat is min parf range for X model? And also its OMV range?

Which version is yours? Hybrid? Hybrid is A2 ($15K)
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minimum ARF payable is $5K.
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like i said there is certain restriction (min 5 vehicels in single bill lading) to appy for the fixed Coefficient 0.92 factor.
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anyway if your current co2 value x 0.92 is within the same band there is no upgrade.
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This is for those with co2 readings like 129 or so...(129x0.92 is 118 which will go into the different band)

Mine is Vezel 'x' non hybrid.

CEVS is $14.7k since minimum parf is $5k and omv is $19.7k

Got my vezel from prime motor at benoi.

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Wow bro, thanks for the testing. Great relieve to read this. � �

Praise me la..

hehehe just kidding.. � [:p]

Glad to share.. � [:)]

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Thanks Bro,
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But i'm just curious that Zion Auto's pricing for X & S models are generally $4000 to $10,000 lower than others.
I had called and asked, they seems providing most of the accessories that others also provides.
The only different is they only provide 1 years warranty.
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Would like to know if they are the right PIs to go with:)
Anyone here has got their Vezel from them:)
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The saving is not worth for only 1 year of warranty. Most PI should offer 3 year warranty as standard. U are already paying over 100k for a car, my opinion is dun compromise on warranty.

Mine is Vezel 'x' non hybrid.

CEVS is $14.7k since minimum parf is $5k and omv is $19.7k

Got my vezel from prime motor at benoi.

bro, can pm me your registration number?

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did Prime on pass you some rebate?

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did you check your PARF value?

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Thanks

I'm thinking of ordering Vezel 1.5 S. Anyone heard of Zion Auto Gallery Sin Ming, as their pricing is the lowest among other PIs. Appreciate your'll advice.�

If I am not mistaken, they are also 1 of the Importer for Vezel..

So probably why they have 1-tier less of charges against those who got the cars from them.. � [confused]

bro, can pm me your registration number?
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did Prime on pass you some rebate?
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did you check your PARF value?
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Yes. Got some rebates. It is a win-win deal.

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I have the same experience as what you had described. Another thing which I like to highlight is that the sensors is field of view is a little wider than the car body. As such, it could activate when you try to filter into the next lane because you are stuck in the current which is not moving. The trick is not to stop too close the the car in front of you. Even if you could manoeuvre out, the CTBA sensor may still detect a "close" obstacle.

Good pointer..

So for those who likes to race & "car-chase" or tailgate one, do switch OFF CTBA..

[laugh] � [laugh] � [laugh]

Yes. Got some rebates. It is a win-win deal.

Cool. At least Prime Motors is [thumbsup] �.

Good pointer..

So for those who likes to race & "car-chase" or tailgate one, do switch OFF CTBA..

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http://www.honda.co....gy/safety/cbta/

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City Brake Assist (CTBA)

City Brake Assist (City-Brake Active System or CTBA) is specifically designed to help avoid or mitigate low speed accidents. It is standard on the Jazz RS range, and is part of Honda�s international effort to reduce collisions.

While driving at speeds of between 5km/h and 30km/h, the CTBA gives audio and visual warnings to the driver when the system recognises a high risk of collision. The system uses a laser radar unit fitted to the windscreen behind the rear mirror to detect potential collisions and to mitigate the level of damage in an unavoidable crash. If the driver does not take action to slow down, the system will apply the brakes automatically. Note: CTBA is not intended as a replacement for driver braking.

False starts are reduced with City Brake Assist. When the car is stationary or travelling slowly (less than 10km/h) and CBTA senses that the driver has stepped on the accelerator pedal too hard with an obsticle approximately four metres of the front of the car, it will provide an audio and visual warning. The system will then assist the driver by applying the brakes. This helps reduce accidents in situations where the driver accidentally steps on the accelerator instead of the brake.

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Edited by trajet2b, 11 February 2015 - 07:46 PM.

bro, can pm me your registration number?
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did Prime on pass you some rebate?
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did you check your PARF value?
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How come your CEVS rebate is 14.7k? Btw ur min parf is 5k??

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my enquiry and their response�from them left me with a decision to stay far away from them...... personal conclusion -�value your $$ :)

Bro, what do u mean about this? They serve u with bad response? What makes u wanna stay far from them?

Praise me la..

hehehe just kidding.. �

Glad to share.. �

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praise alri lah .... i had to praise someone first before i can praise�u .... [:)]

How come your CEVS rebate is 14.7k? Btw ur min parf is 5k??

Since omv is $19.7k.. And min parf is $5k. What is left is $14.7k for CEVS.

Hi bros, whats the different btween the 3 model X,S AND G? Planning to go view the car this coming friday... Haha

Hi bros, whats the different btween the 3 model X,S AND G? Planning to go view the car this coming friday... Haha

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As far as I know,G has halogen headlights, 2 airbags, no steering control, local fitted rims (for dealers I spoke to at least). X has 6/8 air bags, LED lights, factory fitted 16 inch rims. S has peddle shifter, roof rails and 17 inch factory fitted rims.

Since omv is $19.7k.. And min parf is $5k. What is left is $14.7k for CEVS.

CEV is ARF less actual ARF paid, which is either $10k or $15k. Btw, mine is $10k...

Edited by saysay, 11 February 2015 - 09:17 PM.

Huskyboy, on 11 Feb 2015 - 9:00 PM, said:

Since omv is $19.7k.. And min parf is $5k. What is left is $14.7k for CEVS.

can you tell us what is your PARF value? $3K?

Any bro or sis have done paint protection other than ceramic pro? Thinking of getting it done but price is quite ex; wondering if there are good alternatives ?thanks a bunch
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Bro, I am holding back my plan for paint protection waiting for your 5 layers 9H ceramic $500 kangtao.� Can pm contact...
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Just pumped shell 98 as an experiment and am enjoying best FC to date. 17.3 kml after about 250 km.

Usually pump SPC 95 with FC of about 15 to 15.5 kml (rarely 16). Tyre pressure is 220 back 230 front. Any bros can advise if there is a diff between Shell 95 and Shell 98?

Just pumped shell 98 as an experiment and am enjoying best FC to date. 17.3 kml after about 250 km.

Usually pump SPC 95 with FC of about 15 to 15.5 kml (rarely 16). Tyre pressure is 220 back 230 front. Any bros can advise if there is a diff between Shell 95 and Shell 98?

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am a staunch believer of using RON98 versus RON95, brand aside.

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the drive is so much more responsive and ignition timing does not need to be retarded to account for the lower octane. this helps explains why you experience a better drive with RON98.

Just pumped shell 98 as an experiment and am enjoying best FC to date. 17.3 kml after about 250 km.

Usually pump SPC 95 with FC of about 15 to 15.5 kml (rarely 16). Tyre pressure is 220 back 230 front. Any bros can advise if there is a diff between Shell 95 and Shell 98?

I always admire fellow Bro/Sis who can achieve so high FC..
Unfortunately, I only achieve 12-km/L..

Since omv is $19.7k.. And min parf is $5k. What is left is $14.7k for CEVS.

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OMV is $19.7K.

Minimum ARF, do note it's ARF (Additional Registration Fees) has a minimum sum at $5K so you have $2.5K Parf rebate (Preferential Additional Registration Fees rebate) at the end of the COE lifespan of 10 years when you scrap your car.

So if CEVS is $15K for rebate off the ARF payable, $19.7K - $15K = $4.7K (This falls below the minimum sum of $5K for ARF payable), so you'll have to top up another $0.3K back from the rebates to make sure you have the minimum sum of $5K payable for ARF, thus your effective CEVS rebate is $14.7K.

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It's like the CPF minimum sum kind of thing, lol. Sad to say.

you should check out mister cars also.

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dont rush.

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Thanks bro for the heads up.� :wub:

Edited by mistercars, 12 February 2015 - 12:01 AM.

Hi everyone...

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Just a quick question, has any bros tried off their CTBA and then switch off the engine and on it again, does the light for the CTBA comes on again as default or will it be off permanently?

Hi everyone...
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Just a quick question, has any bros tried off their CTBA and then switch off the engine and on it again, does the light for the CTBA comes on again as default or will it be off permanently?

Bro... CTBA is always turn on by default everytime u start ur engine.

Bro... CTBA is always turn on by default everytime u start ur engine.

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oh thanks bro, i thought if i off it, it will be off permanently, haha.

I always admire fellow Bro/Sis who can achieve so high FC..
Unfortunately, I only achieve 12-km/L..

12 February 2015 - 10:26 AM
Googoo

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Thanks for your analyse & explain bro :)) appreciate that:)

Are you one of the Vezel's owner?

X or S ?�

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How do you guys think if paying $3,000 more for getting a 1.5 S

(S = 17" sports rims, reflective black Side Skirts Body kits (instead of matt black on X), Paddle shifts, extra Chrome finishes on top, etc?)

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Good day:)

Cheers!

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S also got leather wrap gear knob, roof rail, heated seats (useless in singapore) and sports pedal if i am not wrong.. for me if the diff is only $3000, i would think getting a S is not bad if u like the 17 inch rims because u go outside change rim and tyres to 17 inches already $1000 to 2000 plus liao?.

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refer to here for the difference..�http://www.honda.co....ype/detail/#gas

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also the omv most likely higher.. although a little bit only. haha.�

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Edited by Googoo, 12 February 2015 - 10:28 AM.

12 February 2015 - 11:03 AM
Ongkmeng

WOW 105 pages !!

Am interested to get this ride, waiting to see KM prices. The only thing, coming from a 07' Jazz driver it is the CVT again. hopefully it wouldn't be a boring drive.

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KM is bringing thai-made HRV in June 15. Prices�are listed in : http://www.honda.com...price_sheet.asp

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12 February 2015 - 11:08 AM
Dafansu

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KM is bringing thai-made HRV in June 15. Prices�are listed in : http://www.honda.com...price_sheet.asp

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more ex than PI. Interesting

12 February 2015 - 11:42 AM
Vantivetech

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more ex than PI. Interesting

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more crappy then PI too

12 February 2015 - 12:03 PM
kingfisher1688

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1 thing to note about Zion is, theirs is a 4-bid guaranteed COE package BUT not without top-ups and their advertised price doesn't really state their COE cap or rebate.
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They used to be 1-bid guaranteed without top-ups and only started doing this 4-bids thing over the past few weeks after the announcement of increased COE quota for this quarter, probably in anticipation of COE fluctuations.
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What this means is, they could have based their (advertised) price on a low COE cap, and if they are not able to secure the COE for the customer after the 4-bids, the customer will have to top up to get his or her COE, and that can potentially wipe out any "discounts" you see right now.
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Having said all this, Zion is also one of the guys I have in mind (that's why I know their recent change in COE package). I did a bit of homework and it seems to me that they are one of those no-gimmick companies, they know what they have to offer, they offer you what they have, you want it, you take it, you don't want it, no hard feelings either, hence the seemingly lower prices. But I won't dwell too deeply into what homework have I done or how, as this is something which every car buyer, at least those thinking to go for PIs, should do as ultimately you make your own choices and you should be the one responsible for them.�
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What I can say though, is that there are at least a couple of guys on that "collected / booked" list here that have successfully collected their rides from Zion, and that would be a good first step towards your research.
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Just my $0.02. And good luck to you on your PI hunt.�

to minimise our risk, one way I could think of, is to leave the Pi out of the equation for the Coe. do your own Coe bidding.

12 February 2015 - 12:03 PM
Rationalexuberance

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S also got leather wrap gear knob, roof rail, heated seats (useless in singapore) and sports pedal if i am not wrong.. for me if the diff is only $3000, i would think getting a S is not bad if u like the 17 inch rims because u go outside change rim and tyres to 17 inches already $1000 to 2000 plus liao?.
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stock 17" S model rims are original enkei japan made. gd value. replica rims aredy cost a bomb

12 February 2015 - 12:11 PM
Rationalexuberance

If you look at the collected list, there is no doubt Hup Long is one of the more reliable ones. I hope they are not�complacent and maintain their track record. But they are not cheap.
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I am sure there are new PIs that is equally good if were�given a chance.
Yes, everyone here to make money, but if their overheads is not as high as big PI probably they should be able to offer competitive pricing.�
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The important issue is delivery and not running away with your money.
If you can think of a way or to discuss with your PI on�how to�protect your deposit and how consumer and PI be binded by a contract, that would be an ideal situation.�
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This way new PI be given a chance to prove their worth and consumer will gain with competitive pricing.
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Otherwise the big PI will monopolise this trade.

i wanna ask for opinions bros/sis.

say the only deposit required is $10k for COE bidding and to proceed with the deal to be put on paper contractually,the PI only requires in principle approval of ur loan to ensure repayment credibility on buyer side.

i.e cash deposit only $10k.

would it be a safer step to take?

leaving fast deliver etc out of the qn.

personally i wud like it, less risk. and feels that they have e financial backing,not afraid u pull out of the deal.

12 February 2015 - 12:18 PM
trajet2b

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In fact, Rational just replied your query, I think he's one of the earliest ones from this thread to have gotten his Vezel, he would be able to offer some really great advice.�

bro,

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Are you sure about that? Unless he is using a different nick before, we never seen him before until recently.

12 February 2015 - 12:19 PM
wkloh

bro, sorry if you have answered this b4, asking again...wat engine oil you use?[/quote]

Actually my journey is 15(CT)/85(HW). That's the major cause.

12 February 2015 - 12:36 PM
Kennethwong

bro, sorry if you have answered this b4, asking again...wat engine oil you use?[/quote]

Engine Oil 0W-30 IMM.jpg

Actually my journey is 15(CT)/85(HW). That's the major cause.

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0w-30 is good for our engine. Total oil use is 3.8L so you need 4 of these :-)

12 February 2015 - 12:43 PM
aarcee

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Another alternative you might want to consider is leasing; you don't have to pay anything upfront, servicing, road tax and insurance are taken care of, and you get a replacement car every time the car goes to the workshop. If you're not looking for anything fancy or brand new you can probably get something decent for about $1k~$1.3k a month, or less. That is about the same as what you would be paying for monthly installment if you buy a new car, after having already put down a hefty down payment.

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Upside is the worry-and-hassle-free arrangement, downside is of course, when the lease is up, you return the car and don't get anything back.

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Thanks Bro..

12 February 2015 - 12:54 PM
wkloh

You never walk alone

Thanks for the comfort.. �

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You are not alone....

Another kindness..

Thanks for the comfort.. �

12 February 2015 - 12:58 PM
Rationalexuberance

bro,
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Are you sure about that? Unless he is using a different nick before, we never seen him before until recently.

i'm only no. 38 or 39 in e taken delivery list hehe. started to see this thread when considering vezel. from page 150plus i tink. many guys took their rides b4 me..haha..dat was wat i was looking for to give me confidence on vezel n aftermkt parts..ready supply n competitive price

12 February 2015 - 01:03 PM
Advancer

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S also got leather wrap gear knob, roof rail, heated seats (useless in singapore) and sports pedal if i am not wrong.. for me if the diff is only $3000, i would think getting a S is not bad if u like the 17 inch rims because u go outside change rim and tyres to 17 inches already $1000 to 2000 plus liao?.

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refer to here for the difference..�http://www.honda.co....ype/detail/#gas

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also the omv most likely higher.. although a little bit only. haha.�

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Something that most people doesn't know about the S and hybrid models is that they have additional soundproofing on the chassis against road noise as compared to G and X model.

Edited by Advancer, 12 February 2015 - 01:04 PM.

12 February 2015 - 01:04 PM
Rationalexuberance

[quote name="wkloh" post="5412798" timestamp="1423714797"]

bro, sorry if you have answered this b4, asking again...wat engine oil you use?[/quote]

Engine Oil 0W-30 IMM.jpg

Actually my journey is 15(CT)/85(HW). That's the major cause.[/quote]

oh u bought that? gd deal

do check for SAE API/SN and manufacture date..bro Niltram taught me. thats e latest specs n criteria for engine oil.

called thian seng last week..retailing at 15bucks per quart aso..qty disc may apply if buy more. they also have 0w20 for mobil one

12 February 2015 - 01:05 PM
wkloh

�

Thanks for your analyse & explain bro :)) appreciate that:)

Are you one of the Vezel's owner?

X or S ?�

�

How do you guys think if paying $3,000 more for getting a 1.5 S

(S = 17" sports rims, reflective black Side Skirts Body kits (instead of matt black on X), Paddle shifts, extra Chrome finishes on top, etc?)

�

Good day:)

Cheers!

Hi Danial, the calculator goes beyond the 3k tinggi.. Of course "S" is the highest spec among petrol model...

But for that 3k, the applicable Loan is different already. Unless $$$ is no really an issue for you, then go for the better spec one.

I know the tempt cos I also swirled into it before until the reality kicks in.. Its really heart sore.. what's 3k only if we are paying over 100k... but the different in loan is 10%. So no choise gotta "wave & go for 2nd best"..

Cruel reality.. �

Luckily the "X" is afterall not such a bad ride too. Enjoying it.. �

Edited by wkloh, 12 February 2015 - 01:05 PM.

12 February 2015 - 01:06 PM
efssc

bro,

�

Are you sure about that? Unless he is using a different nick before, we never seen him before until recently.

�

Hmmm... Wow... Never expect to be asked for confirmation on a forum... let me see...

�

Yup, Rationalexuberance, seen his post quite a lot and he's on the collected list as well, a Hybrid model I think.�

�

Been seeing your posts quite a bit as well, ever since the Volks Auto saga you've been giving out good advises and tips for bros here to look out for so as to not fall prey to scams, and you have my respect for that too.�

Edited by efssc, 12 February 2015 - 01:09 PM.

12 February 2015 - 01:06 PM
Rationalexuberance

Something that most people doesn't know about the S and hybrid models is that they have additional soundproofing on the chassis against road noise as compared to G and X model.

i also din noe till u told me bro. yah my ride not as noisy as compared to bros who have related probs. wind noise have..becos of e fat side mirrors. if install visors will be louder

12 February 2015 - 01:06 PM
TanWL1970

i wanna ask for opinions bros/sis.

say the only deposit required is $10k for COE bidding and to proceed with the deal to be put on paper contractually,the PI only requires in principle approval of ur loan to ensure repayment credibility on buyer side.

i.e cash deposit only $10k.

would it be a safer step to take?

leaving fast deliver etc out of the qn.

personally i wud like it, less risk. and feels that they have e financial backing,not afraid u pull out of the deal.

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Yes, I would go for this. It show that the company is financially sound and serious about delivery to the customer. As their money can only comes in after delivery (a motivation to work faster).

But on the other hand, as PI cater to a wide range of brands and models, they might not want to do this to slow moving models. For models like vezel which are catching on and fast moving, one buyer pull out of the deal, there still many behind waiting to take over.

Win Win for all.

12 February 2015 - 01:16 PM
Rationalexuberance

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Yes, I would go for this. It show that the company is financially sound and serious about delivery to the customer. As their money can only comes in after delivery (a motivation to work faster).
But on the other hand, as PI cater to a wide range of brands and models, they might not want to do this to slow moving models. For models like vezel which are catching on and fast moving, one buyer pull out of the deal, there still many behind waiting to take over.
Win Win for all.

thanks for ur honest feedback bro. My SE fren was sharing w me yday that this has been their practice all e while..n i almost niao him on e spot..lucky i din cos on 2nd thot it minimize risks for all parties..give and take. lucky i din niao him..otherwise i'll be a bad fren

12 February 2015 - 01:22 PM
sebastianlow

Saw it at Leco Prestige, they had 2 Vezels there but both sold. I did not walk through all the shops but called the ones�that had advertised this car, all of them do not have physical stock yet. Anyone know if Leco is reliable?

Bro.. i went yesterday also... but they take in car very low....:(

12 February 2015 - 01:40 PM
wkloh

to minimise our risk, one way I could think of, is to leave the Pi out of the equation for the Coe. do your own Coe bidding.

Or you can ask them to bid for you & at your instruction. Sometimes they may charge you Admin fees for each bidding cycle. So ask b4 action.

Up-side is you decide your appetite of COE price & your urgency for collecting the ride (Condition that you already secure a Stock-Car). Down-side is very "challenging" to study & monitor the COE gradient.

Since the Risk (top-up or reimburse) of COE is no longer on the PI side, they will not hesitate to bid for you. And the worry of whether they will bid or not bid for you (due to contracted Z-numbers of bids) is eliminated. Get or don get is purely your responsibility already. But some PI don do such thing at all. They comes as a complete bundle, Car + COE.

But to be fair, you can't just hog onto their stock & drag to pend on an unrealistic COE. The parking lot & finance of bringing in the car also need money one..

bro, sorry if you have answered this b4, asking again...wat engine oil you use?[/quote]

Engine Oil 0W-30 IMM.jpg

Actually my journey is 15(CT)/85(HW). That's the major cause.

Oops.. Sorry my wrong.. to-ba-lik..

My ride is 85%(CT)/15%(HW)..

12 February 2015 - 01:56 PM
Googoo

Something that most people doesn't know about the S and hybrid models is that they have additional soundproofing on the chassis against road noise as compared to G and X model.

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yes i remember seeing this somewhere. someone posted this info before here �but because it was not listed in the honda website link which i show (or maybe i miss it out) so i normally don't tell people about this.. this is also one main reason i wanted the S �or hybrid version. to me, with all these extra features add up, it is more worth while to get the S model.

12 February 2015 - 02:00 PM
Rationalexuberance

�
yes i remember seeing this somewhere. someone posted this info before here �but because it was not listed in the honda website link which i show (or maybe i miss it out) so i normally don't tell people about this.. this is also one main reason i wanted the S �or hybrid version. to me, with all these extra features add up, it is more worth while to get the S model.

agree...gd aftermkt insulation not cheap..

12 February 2015 - 02:06 PM
kingfisher1688

Or you can ask them to bid for you & at your instruction. Sometimes they may charge you Admin fees for each bidding cycle. So ask b4 action.

Up-side is you decide your appetite of COE price & your urgency for collecting the ride (Condition that you already secure a Stock-Car). Down-side is very "challenging" to study & monitor the COE gradient.

Since the Risk (top-up or reimburse) of COE is no longer on the PI side, they will not hesitate to bid for you. And the worry of whether they will bid or not bid for you (due to contracted Z-numbers of bids) is eliminated. Get or don get is purely your responsibility already. But some PI don do such thing at all. They comes as a complete bundle, Car + COE.

But to be fair, you can't just hog onto their stock & drag to pend on an unrealistic COE. The parking lot & finance of bringing in the car also need money one..

Oops.. Sorry my wrong.. to-ba-lik..

My ride is 85%(CT)/15%(HW)..

�

To minimise $ being absconded by PI, the low risk way is to bid �for your COE .

With COE secured, one only have to put deposit for the car body booking (10% of $54k? ) instead of COE bidding deposit($10k + 10% of car body price?

�

The waiting time is purely on the delivery of the car.�

�

If anything goes wrong, one will lose $5.4k(car price deposit) vs $15.4k (COE deposit + car price deposit).

�

If i am missing anything here, please correct me. Thanks.

12 February 2015 - 02:10 PM
Rationalexuberance

�
To minimise $ being absconded by PI, the low risk way is to bid �for your COE .
With COE secured, one only have to put deposit for the car body booking (10% of $54k? ) instead of COE bidding deposit($10k + 10% of car body price?
�
The waiting time is purely on the delivery of the car.�
�
If anything goes wrong, one will lose $5.4k(car price deposit) vs $15.4k (COE deposit + car price deposit).
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If i am missing anything here, please correct me. Thanks.
agree..but too many pple lazy to find out e strategy involved n steps required to bid

the "waste of time" to bid is more valuable dan the risk of 10k hehe

Edited by Rationalexuberance, 12 February 2015 - 02:11 PM.

12 February 2015 - 02:20 PM
Vantivetech

Hi Danial, the calculator goes beyond the 3k tinggi.. Of course "S" is the highest spec among petrol model...

But for that 3k, the applicable Loan is different already. Unless $$$ is no really an issue for you, then go for the better spec one.

I know the tempt cos I also swirled into it before until the reality kicks in.. Its really heart sore.. what's 3k only if we are paying over 100k... but the different in loan is 10%. So no choise gotta "wave & go for 2nd best"..

Cruel reality.. �

Luckily the "X" is afterall not such a bad ride too. Enjoying it.. �

�

pardon my ignorance but why would the "S" model be with a different loan criteria? Is it because the "S" model has OMV >$20K?

�

anyone with "S" model can affirm?

12 February 2015 - 02:29 PM
wkloh

�

pardon my ignorance but why would the "S" model be with a different loan criteria? Is it because the "S" model has OMV >$20K?

�

anyone with "S" model can affirm?

ya

12 February 2015 - 02:31 PM
Jaymessofly

Hey guys,

I recently booked a Blue Vezel Z Hybrid model from Autolink in November.

Till now still no news about the car, suspect it's still in Japan.

Anybody who bought from Autolink having the same experience?

�

12 February 2015 - 03:02 PM
trajet2b

Hey guys,

I recently booked a Blue Vezel Z Hybrid model from Autolink in November.

Till now still no news about the car, suspect it's still in Japan.

Anybody who bought from Autolink having the same experience?

�

bro,

�

you should know Autolink style. For the attractive price usually the delivery will take atleast 3 to 4 months.

�

Is it not in your sales agreement?

Edited by trajet2b, 12 February 2015 - 03:03 PM.

12 February 2015 - 03:18 PM
xxLIM

Any1 collected x model white vezel from vincar. Please pm me.

12 February 2015 - 03:21 PM
Jaymessofly

bro,

�

you should know Autolink style. For the attractive price usually the delivery will take atleast 3 to 4 months.

�

Is it not in your sales agreement?

Haha, first time buying car from them.

Agreement was 3-4months. Ordered in Nov thought by Feb should be able to at least see the car.
But now car also no news yet, suspect still in Japan. Spoke to my SA, but he said no news either.

�

Any other Z model hybrid owners out there? Care to share your experience?

Can't wait to get my hands on my car.

Edited by Jaymessofly, 12 February 2015 - 03:23 PM.

12 February 2015 - 03:22 PM
Rationalexuberance

Hey guys,

I recently booked a Blue Vezel Z Hybrid model from Autolink in November.
Till now still no news about the car, suspect it's still in Japan.

Anybody who bought from Autolink having the same experience?

�
bro..i din see any incoming blue hybrid in their shipment list due february when i was making my decision. there was the green which i took on immediate registration.. i think nxt shipment all white. do call in to check..n wat was on ur sales agreement?

either way i'm so happy to know another hybrid owner! we shud all gather in a line up with all the different colors!! will b a gd sight!

Edited by Rationalexuberance, 12 February 2015 - 03:24 PM.

12 February 2015 - 03:25 PM
kingfisher1688

Anyone deal with New Car Quotation (PI at Sin Ming Lane) ?

�

Pricing seems reasonable.

�

�

12 February 2015 - 03:28 PM
Rationalexuberance

�
pardon my ignorance but why would the "S" model be with a different loan criteria? Is it because the "S" model has OMV >$20K?
�
anyone with "S" model can affirm?
highly likely yes bro. some S model omv below 20k..some above...rightly it shud be above..else..likely underdeclared
Anyone deal with New Car Quotation (PI at Sin Ming Lane) ?
�
Pricing seems reasonable.
�
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which PI bro?

Edited by Rationalexuberance, 12 February 2015 - 03:27 PM.

12 February 2015 - 03:29 PM
Jaymessofly

bro..i din see any incoming blue hybrid in their shipment list due february when i was making my decision. there was the green which i took on immediate registration.. i think nxt shipment all white. do call in to check..n wat was on ur sales agreement?

either way i'm so happy to know another hybrid owner! we shud all gather in a line up with all the different colors!! will b a gd sight!

Hahaha, dk when will my car arrive also.
But will definitely meet up to portray our hybrids!

You changed any parts or accessories for yours?

Before you bought the green hybrid, Autolink actually offered me to swap my blue for the green which arrived. But had to top up 5k, lol.

12 February 2015 - 03:35 PM
Rationalexuberance

bro,
�
We are talking about the CEV Fixed Coefficient of 0.92 formula
�
PI with a minimum of 5 vehicles in a single Bill Lading can apply to have the above new formula used to upgrade from current band A3 to A2.�
bro does this mean some cars may skip e coefficient being applied, then not be rewarded with e additional cev rebates?
Hahaha, dk when will my car arrive also.
But will definitely meet up to portray our hybrids!

You changed any parts or accessories for yours?

Before you bought the green hybrid, Autolink actually offered me to swap my blue for the green which arrived. But had to top up 5k, lol.

wah u cud have rendered me car-less bro haha. didn't change anything.

ok..i PM reply u. (Erik, if ure reading this,pls help our dear fren)

Edited by Rationalexuberance, 12 February 2015 - 03:36 PM.

12 February 2015 - 03:36 PM
kingfisher1688

highly likely yes bro. some S model omv below 20k..some above...rightly it shud be above..else..likely underdeclared

which PI bro?

�

New Car Quotation is the name of the PI (located in Sin Ming Lane).

�

From Sgcarmart, 1.6X is selling at $48,888 without COE.

12 February 2015 - 03:53 PM
Zippu

Hey guys,

I recently booked a Blue Vezel Z Hybrid model from Autolink in November.

Till now still no news about the car, suspect it's still in Japan.

Anybody who bought from Autolink having the same experience?

�

Jaymessofly, i booked my green Hybrid-Z�late Oct 2014. STILL waiting.�SA said late Jan15, but PI said delay and�will�arrive�early Feb15 instead. STILL waiting... no definite date yet. :(

12 February 2015 - 03:53 PM
indulge

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�

Hinge protector

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12 February 2015 - 04:06 PM
oxycover

�

Thanks Oxy, for the heads up.

�

Yup, caution is never wrong, especially when it involves big ticket items such as a car, that's why I have been on the hunt for months, and still yet to make a move; I've been threading really carefully and taking my time.�

�

Either that or I'm just an indecisive uncle.�

�

It's okay, I was researching/comparing for quite a while too (it was almost stressful!) The most annoying thing was that most SE would prefer you to go down to negotiate. Can understand why they prefer that but it's inconvenient.

�

Btw, not saying that Zion isn't good/reliable. I've seen carplate with Zion on it, but I guess like everything else, it depends on a bit of luck too.

12 February 2015 - 04:28 PM
Rationalexuberance

�

New Car Quotation is the name of the PI (located in Sin Ming Lane).

�

From Sgcarmart, 1.6X is selling at $48,888 without COE.

�

vezel x at dat body price looks attractive, a cool 48k with all the premium std free gifts wud be good!

�

Have no experience nor heard of this PI b4 though.

12 February 2015 - 04:33 PM
oxycover

�

vezel x at dat body price looks attractive, a cool 48k with all the premium std free gifts wud be good!

�

Have no experience nor heard of this PI b4 though.

�

Tried finding them on Bizfile, but can't find. Better make sure you know the real company name before committing

�

And 48k is really a v good price!

12 February 2015 - 04:34 PM
turboless

�

New Car Quotation is the name of the PI (located in Sin Ming Lane).

�

From Sgcarmart, 1.6X is selling at $48,888 without COE.

haha confirm is a scam there is no 1.6X model :)

12 February 2015 - 04:36 PM
kingfisher1688

�

Tried finding them on Bizfile, but can't find. Better make sure you know the real company name before committing

�

And 48k is really a v good price!

�

Thanks for the advice.

�

Really helpful!

12 February 2015 - 04:47 PM
kingfisher1688

haha confirm is a scam there is no 1.6X model :)

Sorry, my bad. Its my typo error...LOL

12 February 2015 - 04:47 PM
Vantivetech

�

Tried finding them on Bizfile, but can't find. Better make sure you know the real company name before committing

�

And 48k is really a v good price!

�

reincarnated volks auto ? :)

12 February 2015 - 05:13 PM
kingfisher1688

�

reincarnated volks auto ? :)

�

Scary, really no info in Bizfile. �

12 February 2015 - 05:27 PM
oxycover

Scary, really no info in Bizfile.

�
Oops, apologies my bad.
�
Their name is: New CarQuotations (without a space between car and quotations) and it can be found on Bizfile. Company was just set up last year though.

Edited by oxycover, 12 February 2015 - 05:49 PM.

12 February 2015 - 05:27 PM
Dino-Lee

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Aiyah bro ... you are out to poison people again. BTW, i have fixed my visor alri. Ordered some accessaries alri but mostly same same with yours. Did not ordered those bigger, bulky items. When installed, I drive over.

12 February 2015 - 05:54 PM
indulge

�

Aiyah bro ... you are out to poison people again. BTW, i have fixed my visor alri. Ordered some accessaries alri but mostly same same with yours. Did not ordered those bigger, bulky items. When installed, I drive over.

�

Your turn to poison me �... i am running out of idea what to buy... addicted to taobao liao.�

12 February 2015 - 06:00 PM
LawrenceLee_110640

Lol, I shall go see the accessories from taobao

12 February 2015 - 06:21 PM
wkloh

�

vezel x at dat body price looks attractive, a cool 48k with all the premium std free gifts wud be good!

�

Have no experience nor heard of this PI b4 though.

IMO, $48k with all freebies.. �

Most unlikely.. �

Just my $0.02.

12 February 2015 - 06:35 PM
angrynor

Bro.. i went yesterday also... but they take in car very low....:(

�

they offered me the highest trade in for my old car thou... So i guess it depends on the make etc?

12 February 2015 - 06:47 PM
trajet2b

IMO, $48k with all freebies.. �

Most unlikely.. �

Just my $0.02.

$48K without COE, there is�still money to be made by PI.

Actual cost after CEV rebate is well below $48K

�

I am sorry if i really sound like a broken record.

If you can protect your money and willing to gamble on time, it may be worth a try.

12 February 2015 - 08:08 PM
archcherub

trying to look around to see who should i buy from... went to LECO .... going to autolink..soon.. any brother can help?

Look for Ray from Hup Long lor.

�

i didnt get my car in January 2015... which was what I was hoping.

though to be fair to him, he did say no promises, but he try his best to get for me before CNY.

�

which i am gonna get on CNY eve, thanks to his efforts. despite the license plate maker, the car firm closing waaay before CNY eve, he make effort to arrange the car for me, so i give credits where credit is due...
if he never deliver, i sure not happy lah.

�

but he really make effort to help me get car for CNY, so u can really consider Hup Long la.

he is experienced enough to give good advice

�

After take car, I will take many many photos and post here!!!!! damn excited... the more i see Vezels on the road, the more i find them chio!!!!!!!

12 February 2015 - 08:41 PM
indulge

Any bro have this installed? Is it secured firmly?

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12 February 2015 - 09:10 PM
her0

Went to Hup Long to take a look at the Vezel X and was quoted $115k with delivery in 1 month time. First time buying a new car. Current ride is a 2nd hand car. The price is it negotiable, or can only negotiate on the accessories? The SE was saying they expect the price to rise as Japan export tax going to rise soon.
In a dilemma as my wife prefer a upgrade from our Vios to a 7 seater, whereas I am seduce by the Vezel.

Edited by her0, 12 February 2015 - 09:26 PM.

12 February 2015 - 09:24 PM
Anja98

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12 February 2015 - 09:24 PM
Estima21

Went to Hup Long to take a look at the Vezel X and was quoted $115k with delivery in 1 month time. First time buying a new car. Current ride is a 2nd hand car. The price is it negotiable, or can only negotiate on the accessories? The SE was saying they expect the price to rise as Japan export tax going to rise soon.

Hi , pm send. Better offer..

mycarforum

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