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Honda Vezel part 36

  • 26 January 2015 - 05:13 PM
    Latio2005A

    For which model? Vezel X?

    Which PI?

    I checked the weekend papers again. Maybe my eyes lao hua�.I can only find the one with $113K advert. Maybe my bad.�


  • 26 January 2015 - 05:34 PM
    Advancer


    I checked the weekend papers again. Maybe my eyes lao hua.I can only find the one with $113K advert. Maybe my bad.�


    If it's really $103k, it could well be another volks auto.
  • 26 January 2015 - 05:38 PM
    Johnson

    For which model? Vezel X?

    Which PI?

    Wow 103k with reverse calculation, the COE is something like 50k in order for them to have gd margin. After 6 bids of waiting dunno the COE will fall till that range or not? Probably maybe asked to top up.


  • 26 January 2015 - 05:41 PM
    Joe2638

    For references

    cool, I have yet to get my car but have already bought some on-line. [sweatdrop]


  • 26 January 2015 - 05:49 PM
    danxiaogui86

    I am also interested in this car, looking around for the best deal. Anyone don't mind to share?

    If there group purchase discount that will be great too.

    Looking at Vezel X or S series.


  • 26 January 2015 - 05:59 PM
    Fuelsaver

    ya man bo bian gotta get it sea shipped for this item. I was considering to get those chrome trimmings but dunno looks nice or not on the actual until see your poisons.


    Lol 200 over pages of poisons tio poison deep deep.

    i still can lun...


  • 26 January 2015 - 06:10 PM
    LEEST
    Done my 1st 1k servicing at Upper Thomson Optima Car. They poured Shell Ultra Helix 5W40, change oil filter, checked battery, pumped air tyre to 250(suggested by the boss), clean air con filter, lastly car wash.Total damage is $138 before gst.
  • 26 January 2015 - 06:59 PM
    trajet2b

    For those Vezel $103K 6 bid non guarantee.

    Even if you got time to wait and not hurriedly need to drive off a Vezel,

    Dont be naive like some of us where you plonk in DP and to expect a refund when the 6 bid process ran out.

    Unless of course, if you can protect your DP or best of all NO DP or arrange for a bankers guarantee, i would strongly suggest you�NOT to do it.

    Everyone would say, this is Singapore, it would not happen.�Trust me,�Don't learn the hard way.

    Singapore got a lot of scammers in variety of packages.


  • 26 January 2015 - 07:43 PM
    Andyngps

    LOL... There are more from bros here
    Center console led oso not bad

  • 26 January 2015 - 11:05 PM
    Krytorn
    The vezel manual is recommending Honda Ultra Leo 0w-20. Anyone know where we can get this engine oil ?
    Honda Ultra Leo 0w-20
    image.jpg
  • 26 January 2015 - 11:35 PM
    Dino-Lee

    Just curious how bros and sis here stay ard punggol and sengkang area ? =)


    Hi bro, I am staying in Punggol. You also staying around here? If free we can have a mini gathering.
  • 26 January 2015 - 11:52 PM
    indulge

    Hi bro, I am staying in Punggol. You also staying around here? If free we can have a mini gathering.


    Punggol here
  • 26 January 2015 - 11:52 PM
    Dino-Lee

    Done my 1st 1k servicing at Upper Thomson Optima Car. They poured Shell Ultra Helix 5W40, change oil filter, checked battery, pumped air tyre to 250(suggested by the boss), clean air con filter, lastly car wash.Total damage is $138 before gst.


    Hi sis, is that syntactic oil that u used? When is your second servicing? At 5k or 10k?

    Air tyre at 250 is a bumpy ride. I pump 200/220 rear/front for a smoother ride.
  • 26 January 2015 - 11:58 PM
    Dino-Lee

    Bro... The window visor is from local
    Later i pm you the taobao links

    Bro... The boot mat is a killer for shipping fee


    Hi bro, pm me the cup holder & speaker ring link. Thanks bro.
  • 27 January 2015 - 12:41 AM
    Rationalexuberance

    AD will need to pay about 200 for basic svc.


    138 b4 gst is still on the high side bah. Engine oil they shud be earning abt 40pct margin..dats high. If is shell helix still ok. Instead if Texas Oil!! Mobil shud be slightly better.

    Edited by Rationalexuberance, 27 January 2015 - 12:51 AM.

  • 27 January 2015 - 12:42 AM
    Andyngps

    Done my 1st 1k servicing at Upper Thomson Optima Car. They poured Shell Ultra Helix 5W40, change oil filter, checked battery, pumped air tyre to 250(suggested by the boss), clean air con filter, lastly car wash.Total damage is $138 before gst.


    How is ur fc so far sis? Any improvement? $138 is considered an ok price. At least its helix. But doubt at W40 you can see much improvement in ur fc. Probably got to wait until after 10km when engine is fully run in (debatable).

    Edited by Andyngps, 27 January 2015 - 12:45 AM.

  • 27 January 2015 - 12:47 AM
    Rationalexuberance

    The vezel manual is recommending Honda Ultra Leo 0w-20. Anyone know where we can get this engine oil ?
    Honda Ultra Leo 0w-20
    attachicon.gifimage.jpg

    Honda ultra low i not sure, amsoil w20 i know

    How is ur fc so far sis? Any improvement? $138 is considered an ok price. At least its helix. But doubt at W40 you can see much improvement in ur fc. Probably got to wait until after 10km when engine is fully run in.

    Just my opinion. I think a transparent way of offering is... cost of goods plus 20pct margin plus labour plus misc (if any) plus gst. And super fast servicing can demand higher labour charge.

    Edited by Rationalexuberance, 27 January 2015 - 12:47 AM.

  • 27 January 2015 - 12:52 AM
    indulge

    bros... which tip is nice?

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  • 27 January 2015 - 01:04 AM
    Rationalexuberance
    OMG Indulge..u really are indulging in poison!! Poisoning our minds too!! I need to tahan, wife dun like too many mods... at one go haha..


    Wow 103k with reverse calculation, the COE is something like 50k in order for them to have gd margin. After 6 bids of waiting dunno the COE will fall till that range or not? Probably maybe asked to top up.

    Cant stand the COE criteria game. Just nego on the price of the car plus free gift. Watever COE is just bid and get it. We shud enjoy the COE depre ourselves. If its high its high,if low its low. If we take max loan available. Ask for at least 2-3k worth of free gifts. Straight forward. I like.

    Edited by Rationalexuberance, 27 January 2015 - 01:09 AM.

  • 27 January 2015 - 01:11 AM
    Rationalexuberance

    bros... which tip is nice?


    I like A03....004,021 and 036..will shortlist these few
  • 27 January 2015 - 06:41 AM
    LEEST

    Hi sis, is that syntactic oil that u used? When is your second servicing? At 5k or 10k?

    Air tyre at 250 is a bumpy ride. I pump 200/220 rear/front for a smoother ride.


    Yeap. Shell Ultra Helix. Next servicing at 6k.
    Tried 200/210,it is too dragging for me. 230/220 is better and comfortable. Trying out 250 to see if can hv better FC
  • 27 January 2015 - 07:26 AM
    Knoogy

    Hi bro, I am staying in Punggol. You also staying around here? If free we can have a mini gathering.


    yup i am staying at punggol too Near the mrt.
  • 27 January 2015 - 08:45 AM
    seankwa

    yup i am staying at punggol too Near the mrt.

    indulge, Dino-Lee

    Same same punggol.


    Hi sis, is that syntactic oil that u used? When is your second servicing? At 5k or 10k?

    Air tyre at 250 is a bumpy ride. I pump 200/220 rear/front for a smoother ride.

    The ride at 250 is way too harsh.

    Even at 230, my mom is complaining its too bumpy at the rear.


  • 27 January 2015 - 09:01 AM
    Cheefarn

    The vezel manual is recommending Honda Ultra Leo 0w-20. Anyone know where we can get this engine oil ?
    Honda Ultra Leo 0w-20
    attachicon.gifimage.jpg

    Bro there is no need to insist on Honda brand syn oil. Honda OEM the oil from major Japs oil manufacturers anyway. They don't manufacture any engine oil

    I am a FD1 owner and yes our Honda engines needs and should use 20wt engine oil whenever possible for max efficiency and fuel economy.

    I get my oil from http://mxtradings.com/

    They sell only top quality syn oil from USA and the prices are really affordable.

    I am using Pennzoil Ultra 5W-20 fully syn for many years already. Shell Helix Ultra simple CMI when compared to these top quality oils


  • 27 January 2015 - 09:07 AM
    Rationalexuberance

    Bro there is no need to insist on Honda brand syn oil. Honda OEM the oil from major Japs oil manufacturers anyway. They don't manufacture any engine oil

    I am a FD1 owner and yes our Honda engines needs and should use 20wt engine oil whenever possible for max efficiency and fuel economy.

    I get my oil from http://mxtradings.com/

    They sell only top quality syn oil from USA and the prices are really affordable.

    I am using Pennzoil Ultra 5W-20 fully syn for many years already. Shell Helix Ultra simple CMI when compared to these top quality oils

    good feedback!!


  • 27 January 2015 - 09:30 AM
    Googoo

    just to share, i used to read the technical specifications of the engine oil which i buy. basically i look at flash point�and viscosity index� Of course there are more things to look for (like API SN, brand etc) but generally i just look at this 2..�

    Flash point - the lowest temperature at which the oil gives off vapors which can ignite. It is dangerous for the oil in a motor to ignite and burn, so a high flash point is desirable),

    Viscosity -�a measure of how much the oil's viscosity changes as temperature changes. A higher viscosity index indicates the viscosity changes less with temperature than a lower viscosity index.

    reference from�http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_oil.

    you can Google for the specifications of the engine oil that u r buying.�


  • 27 January 2015 - 09:54 AM
    Fuelsaver

    138 b4 gst is still on the high side bah. Engine oil they shud be earning abt 40pct margin..dats high. If is shell helix still ok. Instead if Texas Oil!! Mobil shud be slightly better.

    most ws around this price, some higher cos of better brand eo like shell, motul, liquimoly, hks, some lower cos of less known brand.


  • 27 January 2015 - 10:08 AM
    indulge

    Bro there is no need to insist on Honda brand syn oil. Honda OEM the oil from major Japs oil manufacturers anyway. They don't manufacture any engine oil

    I am a FD1 owner and yes our Honda engines needs and should use 20wt engine oil whenever possible for max efficiency and fuel economy.

    I get my oil from http://mxtradings.com/

    They sell only top quality syn oil from USA and the prices are really affordable.

    I am using Pennzoil Ultra 5W-20 fully syn for many years already. Shell Helix Ultra simple CMI when compared to these top quality oils


    Bro... How many quart should i buy?
  • 27 January 2015 - 10:11 AM
    Cheefarn

    Bro... How many quart should i buy?

    My 1.8L R18A needs 4 qt

    Your L15 should require around 4 qt too

    Check your owner's manual for exact info.

    1 qt =946ml


  • 27 January 2015 - 10:14 AM
    poundpuppy

    The ride at 250 is way too harsh.

    Even at 230, my mom is complaining its too bumpy at the rear.

    Agreed. �The suspension is very firm and that makes the ride harsher than others. �My car came 250 kPA... could feel every bump in the road...


    Edited by poundpuppy, 27 January 2015 - 10:15 AM.

  • 27 January 2015 - 11:37 AM
    Krytorn

    Bro there is no need to insist on Honda brand syn oil. Honda OEM the oil from major Japs oil manufacturers anyway. They don't manufacture any engine oil

    I am a FD1 owner and yes our Honda engines needs and should use 20wt engine oil whenever possible for max efficiency and fuel economy.

    I get my oil from http://mxtradings.com/

    They sell only top quality syn oil from USA and the prices are really affordable.

    I am using Pennzoil Ultra 5W-20 fully syn for many years already. Shell Helix Ultra simple CMI when compared to these top quality oils


    Thanks, I'll definitely want to try out 5w-20 engine oil these days
  • 27 January 2015 - 11:49 AM
    Dswm

    just a quick update, FC is about 15km/L...60% highway....

    About the same as you.....averaging 15km/l with 50% city-driving, 50% highway.� [rolleyes]

    By the way, along the same stretch of road from Toa Payoh to Yio Chu Kang, using CTE:

    - with eco mode, was able to clock up 21km/l

    - without eco mode, managed 19.5km/l

    But I think I drive with a heavy right foot (habit).... [:(]


  • 27 January 2015 - 11:53 AM
    Fuelsaver

    indulge, Dino-Lee

    Same same punggol.


    The ride at 250 is way too harsh.

    Even at 230, my mom is complaining its too bumpy at the rear.

    not sure about tyre pressure, but i test drove it n rear is so bumpy, even being driver i can feel kinda discomfort. torsion beam setup for vezel is quite stiff, unlike toyotas.


  • 27 January 2015 - 11:58 AM
    Soonkuay76

    tyre pressure is one thing the tyre itself is another

    for those who are on 17inch your tire height how high.

    My toyo t1 sport is 55�

    i choose the spec because it have more give than say 50 or 45 -meaning thicker width to absorb the road harshness�

    i usually pump up to 240 and fuel consumption still btw 16.8km/l to18.2km/l

    85%expressway and 15% city

    going for my 10k km servicing soon. Time for synthetic oil lor


  • 27 January 2015 - 12:45 PM
    LEEST

    How is ur fc so far sis? Any improvement? $138 is considered an ok price. At least its helix. But doubt at W40 you can see much improvement in ur fc. Probably got to wait until after 10km when engine is fully run in (debatable).

    Bro, i finished my second tank today.
    Based on meter, first tank average at 14.7km/l, 2nd tank at 15.4km/l. Based on my own calculation, first tank at 12km/l, 2nd tank 14.3km/l. I drive 546km for second tank, with one bar left and petrol light alerted.

    Mechanic advised me to pump shell 98 instead of 95 for my new engine. I tried and hope will hv better fc and drive with it
  • 27 January 2015 - 05:29 PM
    trajet2b
    pokadot, on 27 Jan 2015 - 5:20 PM, said:pokadot, on 27 Jan 2015 - 5:20 PM, said:

    wow...that is a lot of things done for $138. Must complain to my workshop, which only change oil and the filter only.


    My workshop told me that it uses 4.5L. So who is correct?

    Ignore the cross over text in the attachment page.

    This is from Vezel manual

    3.1l� or 3.3l with oil filter.

    oil_zps130c352b.jpg

    this is English version

    oil2_zps8059a845.jpg


    Edited by trajet2b, 27 January 2015 - 05:35 PM.

  • 27 January 2015 - 05:35 PM
    Vantivetech

    curious..... does the vezel owners manual come�printed for us in English or Japanese?


  • 27 January 2015 - 07:01 PM
    LEEST

    Good to hear you are getting 14-15km/l and its now better than your first few tanks! You can consider lowering your tyre pressure bah. 250 is too bumpy and damaging imho. Lol. 235 is good enough. You may not see much diff compared to 250 as long as you check your tyre pressure once a week and maintain at 235.


    Thanks for ur advice,bro. Will try out?

    Ignore the cross over text in the attachment page.

    This is from Vezel manual

    3.1l� or 3.3l with oil filter.

    oil_zps130c352b.jpg


    this is English version

    oil2_zps8059a845.jpg



    Thanks for sharing. I am not sure exact litre poured it. But, when i looked at and shaked the balance 4L Shell Helix bottle on the floor, still hv some left. Was told can not over pour coz the engine might hv difficulities to start.
  • 27 January 2015 - 07:57 PM
    Xiaojav

       

    IMHO, it will be advisable to follow the recommended tyre pressure stated on the car manual. Increasing tyre pressure may cause more wear on your tyres, also not advisable for long drives since tyres will heat up more.

    I think this is when you are on manufacturer tyres?� :huh:


  • 27 January 2015 - 07:58 PM
    pokadot

    Ignore the cross over text in the attachment page.

    This is from Vezel manual

    3.1l� or 3.3l with oil filter.

    oil_zps130c352b.jpg

    this is English version

    oil2_zps8059a845.jpg

    Bro, thanks for sharing. I have to bring this up to my workshop because I am charged by the amount of engine oil used. I hoped they do something to rectify this before I complain all the way to the boss.

    Possible to PM me the source of this documentation. I would like to print the relevant pages and bring it to the workshop.


    Edited by pokadot, 27 January 2015 - 08:00 PM.

  • 27 January 2015 - 08:14 PM
    Xiaojav

    Bro there is no need to insist on Honda brand syn oil. Honda OEM the oil from major Japs oil manufacturers anyway. They don't manufacture any engine oil

    I am a FD1 owner and yes our Honda engines needs and should use 20wt engine oil whenever possible for max efficiency and fuel economy.

    I get my oil from http://mxtradings.com/

    They sell only top quality syn oil from USA and the prices are really affordable.

    I am using Pennzoil Ultra 5W-20 fully syn for many years already. Shell Helix Ultra simple CMI when compared to these top quality oils

    Errr. Why is everyone bringing their own oil? Thought service center will provide when the servicing is included? 1k servicing coming up. If there is an advantage, what is the recommendation?

    [wave]


  • 27 January 2015 - 08:21 PM
    Dino-Lee

    Collected my freebie hard tonneau cover from my PI. They are selling Vezel X model with very good deal. Waiting time 3 mths.When i saw the price, my heartache coz my baby is lot more exp. But I enjoy fast delivery service. You gain some and will lost some at the same time

    Pm me if need details.

    Hi sis, appreciate if you could post a picture of your hard tonneau cover here. Is it fixed or does it come with string attached to the boot door? I am still waiting for my hard tonneau cover promised by my SE for nearly 2 months now.


  • 27 January 2015 - 08:36 PM
    trajet2b
    pokadot, on 27 Jan 2015 - 7:58 PM, said:

    Bro, thanks for sharing. I have to bring this up to my workshop because I am charged by the amount of engine oil used. I hoped they do something to rectify this before I complain all the way to the boss.

    Possible to PM me the source of this documentation. I would like to print the relevant pages and bring it to the workshop.

    This is the Vezel literal translation to English.

    The language and word formatting is not perfect though.

    http://api.viglink.c....Vezel.pdf?dl=0


  • 27 January 2015 - 08:39 PM
    InitialE24


    i dun enjoy my ride on eco mode :)



    U enjoy saving money?
  • 27 January 2015 - 08:49 PM
    trajet2b
    Dino-Lee, on 27 Jan 2015 - 8:21 PM, said:Dino-Lee, on 27 Jan 2015 - 8:21 PM, said:

    Hi sis, appreciate if you could post a picture of your hard tonneau cover here. Is it fixed or does it come with string attached to the boot door? I am still waiting for my hard tonneau cover promised by my SE for nearly 2 months now.

    you can attach or detach the strings at both sides.

    post-148460-0-70607700-1418034730_thumb.

    HardTonneauCover_zps68a7cef0.jpg


    Edited by trajet2b, 27 January 2015 - 08:51 PM.

  • 27 January 2015 - 08:50 PM
    indulge

    U enjoy saving money?

    save abit but ride not comfortable :D


  • 27 January 2015 - 08:52 PM
    Jeddie

    Got my free tonneau hard cover too...its like the one in qoo selling for 288....exactly the same....


  • 27 January 2015 - 09:08 PM
    Wattokkingu
    [quote name="Xiaojav" post="5399254" timestamp="1422359874"]


    I think this is when you are on manufacturer tyres?� :huh:[/quote?

    from my understanding, the tyre pressure should remain as per manufacturer spec regardless of tire size.
  • 27 January 2015 - 09:41 PM
    LEEST


    Hi sis, appreciate if you could post a picture of your hard tonneau cover here. Is it fixed or does it come with string attached to the boot door? I am still waiting for my hard tonneau cover promised by my SE for nearly 2 months now.


    Hi,bro! My tonneau cover comes without string. It is same as second picture posted with luggage bags inside.
  • 27 January 2015 - 11:03 PM
    xanc

    indulge - i know what u mean, but my wife and i treat it like a game, see if we can hit higher average with each tank!�

    LEEST - try both modes and see which you prefer, for me, its a form of discipline and saving money on eco mode..

    Wattokkingu - bro, i think it's down to individual, just like how bro indulge likes the oomph without eco.. =P �manual is usually the guideline.. as long as you dont over or under inflate till the point that it'll endanger your ride, i think it's fine..�


  • 28 January 2015 - 12:05 AM
    Dino-Lee
    So far we have 5 vezel bro staying in Punggol; xanc, indulge, knoogy, seankwa & myself. Anyone else pls check-in.
  • 28 January 2015 - 12:44 AM
    csoyzx

    So far we have 5 vezel bro staying in Punggol; xanc, indulge, knoogy, seankwa & myself. Anyone else pls check-in.

    i also staying at punggol.. but not yet collect car


  • 28 January 2015 - 01:35 AM
    Dino-Lee

    i also staying at punggol.. but not yet collect car


    When yr car coming bro?
  • 28 January 2015 - 01:40 AM
    indulge

    indulge - i know what u mean, but my wife and i treat it like a game, see if we can hit higher average with each tank!�

    LEEST - try both modes and see which you prefer, for me, its a form of discipline and saving money on eco mode..

    Wattokkingu - bro, i think it's down to individual, just like how bro indulge likes the oomph without eco.. =P �manual is usually the guideline.. as long as you dont over or under inflate till the point that it'll endanger your ride, i think it's fine..�


    Especially when moving off from a red light... Its just too slow :)
    Maybe can eco mode on cruising

    Edited by indulge, 28 January 2015 - 01:40 AM.

  • 28 January 2015 - 04:16 AM
    Dominto

    i also staying at punggol.. but not yet collect car


    Same Same Here
  • 28 January 2015 - 08:50 AM
    csoyzx

    When yr car coming bro?

    Car awaiting Vitas.. Earliest before CNY.. Latest end feb
  • 28 January 2015 - 08:52 AM
    efssc

    I am a new joinee to this forum mainly because i am planning to buy ... ! I have gone through couple of threads .. but didnt see much details on the financials. sorry if this is a repost.�

    I am looking for a detailed costs if i buy and probably a preferred PI who is reliable. Just want to calculate how much loan and how much upfront ..�

    Appreciate any reply.

    Regards

    Aarcee

    Hi Aarcee,

    Welcome to the forum. I am pretty new myself and like you, I came because I am looking for a new ride. I think yours is more of a finance question so hopefully the following is useful.

    There are various loan / lease types available, from 50% ~ 80%, at varying interest rates from 1.8% ~ 2.5% P.A., with different repayment periods from 5 to 7 years. As there are 3 different sub-models of the Vezel (more if you count the Hybrid) selling at different prices, we shall take $120,000.00 for simple reference.

    If you are taking a 50% loan, you will be paying 1/2, or $60,000.00 down payment upfront, and assuming a 5-year loan at 2% interest P.A., you will be paying around $1,150.00 monthly for 5 years, or roughly $130,000.00 in total.

    If you are taking a 80% loan, you will be paying 20%, or $24,000.00 down payment upfront, and assuming a 7-year loan at 2% interest P.A., you will be paying around $1,350.00 monthly for 7 years, or roughly $137,500.00 in total.

    Most PIs require $10k payment to start your COE bidding process, and some will ask for additional deposit like 10% of the car price, all these have to be paid upon booking and will count towards your down payment, with the rest payable when your car is ready for collection. Go talk to as many PIs as you can / like and shortlist those whose packages you feel most comfortable with.

    Talking about PIs, there are many good PIs around, but it only takes one Volks Auto to spoil your day, so you really need to be careful and do your homework diligently. Even if I am to tell you right here right now XXX is a really good and responsible PI with fair prices, how do you know I am not just one of their employees masquerading as a helpful forumer trying to scam you?

    If you need something as a starting point, there's an excellent post-chain right here on this thread listing down all the people here who has either collected or booked their rides and from there you can see who are the PIs that consistently delivers and pleases. You can also find other excellent advises over the pages as well as on other threads; what to look out for when booking, what to ask and what to reject etc., do spend some time to go through them if you can.�

    Golden rule; cheap is not always good and price is not everything.

    The above is just a feel of what you can expect, most PIs are opened to discussions and negotiations, and how far you manage to go will really depend on your bargaining skills. Hope this helps.

    Good luck to us both on our car hunt.� [thumbsup]


    Edited by efssc, 28 January 2015 - 08:55 AM.

  • 28 January 2015 - 09:07 AM
    seankwa

    Had a particularly exciting ride to work this morning.

    Saw and waved hands with the owner of a silver Vezel along TPE towards changi.

    The best part of it... we share the same carplate number!!

    (not considering the alphabets, of course).

    Not sure whether you are here bro but i must say...

    That's one sexy silver ass you got!! :D


  • 28 January 2015 - 09:17 AM
    indulge

    Had a particularly exciting ride to work this morning.
    Saw and waved hands with the owner of a silver Vezel along TPE towards changi.

    The best part of it... we share the same carplate number!!
    (not considering the alphabets, of course).

    Not sure whether you are here bro but i must say...
    That's one sexy silver ass you got!! :D


    Bro Sean... If u see a black one passby ur place... Likely is me :)
  • 28 January 2015 - 09:29 AM
    Vantivetech

    Saw this on SGCarmart..... not sure if I am in violation of anything but hopefully not.

    If this is in violation, mods please delete or let me know.

    Kaizen Automobile Pte Ltd
    Tel: 65478332
    Updated:�28-Jan-2015
    - 1.5 X i-VTEC (A)
    $109,700 1 bid guaranteed COE without top-ups, Cat A rebate at $65K.
  • 28 January 2015 - 09:37 AM
    Rationalexuberance

    Hi Aarcee,

    Welcome to the forum. I am pretty new myself and like you, I came because I am looking for a new ride. I think yours is more of a finance question so hopefully the following is useful.

    There are various loan / lease types available, from 50% ~ 80%, at varying interest rates from 1.8% ~ 2.5% P.A., with different repayment periods from 5 to 7 years. As there are 3 different sub-models of the Vezel (more if you count the Hybrid) selling at different prices, we shall take $120,000.00 for simple reference.

    If you are taking a 50% loan, you will be paying 1/2, or $60,000.00 down payment upfront, and assuming a 5-year loan at 2% interest P.A., you will be paying around $1,150.00 monthly for 5 years, or roughly $130,000.00 in total.

    If you are taking a 80% loan, you will be paying 20%, or $24,000.00 down payment upfront, and assuming a 7-year loan at 2% interest P.A., you will be paying around $1,350.00 monthly for 7 years, or roughly $137,500.00 in total.

    Most PIs require $10k payment to start your COE bidding process, and some will ask for additional deposit like 10% of the car price, all these have to be paid upon booking and will count towards your down payment, with the rest payable when your car is ready for collection. Go talk to as many PIs as you can / like and shortlist those whose packages you feel most comfortable with.

    Talking about PIs, there are many good PIs around, but it only takes one Volks Auto to spoil your day, so you really need to be careful and do your homework diligently. Even if I am to tell you right here right now XXX is a really good and responsible PI with fair prices, how do you know I am not just one of their employees masquerading as a helpful forumer trying to scam you?

    If you need something as a starting point, there's an excellent post-chain right here on this thread listing down all the people here who has either collected or booked their rides and from there you can see who are the PIs that consistently delivers and pleases. You can also find other excellent advises over the pages as well as on other threads; what to look out for when booking, what to ask and what to reject etc., do spend some time to go through them if you can.�

    Golden rule; cheap is not always good and price is not everything.

    The above is just a feel of what you can expect, most PIs are opened to discussions and negotiations, and how far you manage to go will really depend on your bargaining skills. Hope this helps.

    Good luck to us both on our car hunt.� [thumbsup]

    One simple rule of thumb is...the more loan you take, the more discount or free gifts that you essentially need & you should ask for. Nowadays leather seats and entry level HU are standard offers, nothing special. Ask for MORE, there is much room to give.�

    To add on the topic of cheating PIs/Dealers...i believe the best kind are those who are able to engage the services of a bank to hold custody of the deposits of customers. I'm not sure in detail how this can work when dealing on the administrative side of things, however this is kind of custodian deposit handling has long been used by online spread betting companies and brokers. So if the company folds, none of the deposit by the client is affected. The main issue is, can that money be used to bid for cars. In fact since SG has this unique COE and requires bidding with $10k min deposit, perhaps a rule to protect buyers & sellers can be set to level the playing field.

    Eg Min deposit =$10,000 (into custodian account which is allowed to be used for bidding) + $5000 (a nominal amount for dealers to be paid to contractually seal the agreement T&Cs. Any additional nominal deposit above $5000, LTA can set a rule that it will also be locked in the custodian account. Larger amount of deposit can be pegged according to percentage of OMV range for the particulalr vehicle in qn.

    Both parties to the contract can only take back or receive payment of the monies if the purchase/sales agreement proceed smoothly and car delivery/receipt is made, or the contract is rescinded and agreed upon amicably.

    As such, the only risk that buyers face is $5000 or can be less. Dealers will not be afraid of buyers running road as the custodian acct protects both parties to the deal. If buyer run road, dealer can prove, dealer takes the deposit.�


  • 28 January 2015 - 09:39 AM
    seankwa

    Bro Sean... If u see a black one passby ur place... Likely is me :)

    Day n night, i beo outside my window but no c ur poisonous ride yet leh. Lol...


  • 28 January 2015 - 09:44 AM
    indulge


    Day n night, i beo outside my window but no c ur poisonous ride yet leh. Lol...


    Almost everyday around 9.30pm... I will cut across ur side to my carpark
  • 28 January 2015 - 12:24 PM
    Pat62

    Unfortunately it is all true. Approx 6 weeks wait for car to clear paperwork after reach port to even reach showroom

    Thanks.

    I was told Vicom use to be very fast but now need 2-3 weeks. So, I am not sure if there is this added timeframe. Thought I saw report that LTA is looking into speeding up. So, I am puzzled with this new info from my PI.

    I think in earlier postings in this forum, once a PI applies for VITAS, there should be a date for VITAs given by LTA. PI told me that VITAS application was submitted on 20 Jan 15 but he is still not informed by LTA of the date for the VITAS. So, there is still no fixed date for VITAS. So, again I am puzzled.


  • 28 January 2015 - 12:51 PM
    indulge

    Shud front or rear tyres be of higher pressure?

    Bro... front tyres higher pressure. Engine heavy :)


  • 28 January 2015 - 01:04 PM
    indulge

    For those bros who have pioneer DVD player... do remember to update your software..

    http://pioneer.com.s...are/index.html/


  • 28 January 2015 - 01:05 PM
    TanWL1970

    Thanks.

    I was told Vicom use to be very fast but now need 2-3 weeks. So, I am not sure if there is this added timeframe. Thought I saw report that LTA is looking into speeding up. So, I am puzzled with this new info from my PI.

    I think in earlier postings in this forum, once a PI applies for VITAS, there should be a date for VITAs given by LTA. PI told me that VITAS application was submitted on 20 Jan 15 but he is still not informed by LTA of the date for the VITAS. So, there is still no fixed date for VITAS. So, again I am puzzled.

    This is again normal. After LTA received the application, LTA will decide how many slots they are�going to give to each car dealer. So just have to wait patiently. By the way you secured your COE already right?


  • 28 January 2015 - 01:20 PM
    Pat62

    This is again normal. After LTA received the application, LTA will decide how many slots they are�going to give to each car dealer. So just have to wait patiently. By the way you secured your COE already right?

    Did not remember VICOM+VITAS can take more than 4 weeks. That is why I am a bit impatient.

    Have not secured COE�(as far as I know) as my deal is 2 bid guaranteed (without top-up) after VITAS.


  • 28 January 2015 - 02:19 PM
    Rationalexuberance

    For those bros who have pioneer DVD player... do remember to update your software..

    http://pioneer.com.s...are/index.html/


    Update via our phones?
  • 28 January 2015 - 02:25 PM
    indulge

    Update via our phones?


    Via usb thumbdrive
  • 28 January 2015 - 04:29 PM
    Coolsurfer

    Shud front or rear tyres be of higher pressure?

    The manual puts the front as slightly higher than the rear. I think should follow.�


  • 28 January 2015 - 08:57 PM
    LEEST
    Activated CTBA twice these two days when drove too fast and close to gantry. I just continue my driving and the CTBA light will just go off.Would like to double check v bros, am I right to do so? TQ!
  • 28 January 2015 - 09:07 PM
    Rationalexuberance

    Activated CTBA twice these two days when drove too fast and close to gantry. I just continue my driving and the CTBA light will just go off.Would like to double check v bros, am I right to do so? TQ!


    Did your car stall?
  • 28 January 2015 - 10:00 PM
    LEEST
    [quote name="Rationalexuberance" post="5400363" timestamp="1422450430"]

    Did your car stall?[/quot

    Loud sound like crashed on something
  • 28 January 2015 - 10:24 PM
    Cool88

    Finally VezelX was registered this morning, and managed to pick up this afternoon. The drive is good, suspension is great, now learning all the cool stuffs in the vehicle. Very impressed with the technology come with the car.

    Thanks to all Bro & Sis who have been contributing and sharing the dos and don'ts.

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  • 28 January 2015 - 10:32 PM
    Cool88

    Adding myself to the collected list� [:)]

    Disclaimer:
    This list serves as a reference guide for potential new buyer.
    Prices and Sales Agreement terms may vary between those who have collected from the same PI.
    We do not take any responsibility for any error, as we take info posted by members at face value.
    It is your responsibility to exercise due diligence.

    Collected:
    01) Airwaver3,White, S model, Collected (Zion Auto)
    02) Soonkuay, White, X model, Collected (Cartimes)
    03) tanwl1970, White, G model, Collected (Cartimes)
    04) seankwa, Black, X model, Collected (Leco Prestige)
    05) hermit, White, X model, Collected (Leco Prestige)
    06) Nick007, Black, X model, Collected (Apex)
    07) Dswm, Blue, G model, Collected (Hup Long)
    08) kennethwong, Black, X model, Collected (Vincar)
    09) Coolsurfer, White, G model Collected (Hup Long)
    10) Shieldheart, White X model, Collected (Leco Prestige)
    11) xanc, Blue, X model, Collected (Autolux)
    12) Dino-lee, White, X model, Collected (Hup Long)
    13) Eoh75, White, X Model, Collected (Hup Long)
    14) Mcriffen, Black, S Model, Collected (Hup Long)
    15) Mygdi, White, X model, Collected
    16) jacteh, Blue, X model, Collected (Autolink)
    17) tttwei, Blue, X model, Collected (Autolink)
    18) Renalee, White, X model, Collected. (Hup Long)
    19) Loko, White, X model, collected. (Zion Auto)
    20) fishball81, Maroon, X model, collected. (Autolux)
    21) Indulge, Black, X model, collected. (Cartimes)
    22) wkloh, White, X model, collected. (TLC Auto)
    23) logic69, Maroon , X model, collected. (Shawn from Autolux)
    24) pokadot, White, X model, collected (Leco Automobile)
    25) ivtec, White, S model, collected
    26) Marck, White, X model (Leco Prestige)
    27) ToiletRoll, White, X model (Cartimes)
    28) LeonardoWong (??)
    29) Niltrams, White Hybrid Z model (Autolink)
    30) fatboysalim, Black S model (Exodus Global)
    31) Krytorn, White, X model.
    32) Leest, White (Leco)
    33) Xiaojav, X White
    34) Elinpeh, White, X Model. (Hup Long)
    35) InitialE24, Black, X model

    36) Jeddie,�black, x model (Leco Prestige)
    37) huskyboy, white, x model, (Prime Motor)

    38) Cool88, White, X model (AutoVista)

    Booked:
    01) Mitlancer71, Silver, X model, awaiting to secure COE (5 more bids to go)
    02) Alex, Blue, X model
    03) Mooscenic, Black, X model
    04) Fgn, Blue, X model (Nov).
    05) Tak, Silver, X model, Jan 2015
    06) Pat62, Maroon, X model. Feb 15 (Autolink)
    07) Kenneth, Silver, X model. Early Jan 2015
    08) chanlccs, Silver, X model. Mid Jan 2015 (JDM)
    09) SY70. X model
    10) birdylai, Silver, X model, Mid Feb2015
    11) playing, White, X model
    12) XDD33, Blue, X model
    13) archcherub, White, X model, Jan 2015 shipment (Hup Long)
    15) samwng, Maroon, X model, Mid Feb'15 (Autolink)
    16) turboless, Blue, S model
    17) Dogbaby_25, White, X model (Prime)
    18) Oxycover, White, X Model, Jan 2015 shipment (Hup Long)
    19) Zippu, Green (?), Z Model, Jan 2015 (Exodus)
    20) Winup22 (??)����

    21) Mervynwn, Silver X model
    22)�TimothyJ, White, X Model, Feb 2015 (Vincar)
    23) jaytan, White, X Model
    24) limejuice, Blue, G Model, Jan booked (Hup Long) Collection B4 CNY
    25) Eugene, Black, X Model, collection b4 CNY ( Cartimes)
    26) Mp3skater, Blue, S Model, Jan Booked (Autolink) Collection March 2015
    27) Shortie, Blue, X Model, Jan booked (Hup Long) Collection March 2015
    28) Angrynor, Pearl White, X Model (Leco Prestige) Collection no later than 31 March 2015
    29)william-pearl white x model(prime) b4 cny..

    30) Csoyzx, Pearl White X Model (Cartimes) Earliest before CNY.. Latest before Feb

    31) smeagol, Black, X model (Leco Prestige) collection by mid-april


  • 28 January 2015 - 10:40 PM
    indulge

    Finally VezelX was registered this morning, and managed to pick up this afternoon. The drive is good, suspension is great, now learning all the cool stuffs in the vehicle. Very impressed with the technology come with the car.

    Thanks to all Bro & Sis who have been contributing and sharing the dos and don'ts.

    Nice! [thumbsup]


  • 28 January 2015 - 11:33 PM
    Dino-Lee

    Finally VezelX was registered this morning, and managed to pick up this afternoon. The drive is good, suspension is great, now learning all the cool stuffs in the vehicle. Very impressed with the technology come with the car.
    Thanks to all Bro & Sis who have been contributing and sharing the dos and don'ts.

    Swee bro ... Your next target is to dress up your car.

    Edited by Dino-Lee, 28 January 2015 - 11:34 PM.

  • 28 January 2015 - 11:52 PM
    GetzGT
    Staying in Sengkang. Should be getting my car next Friday.
  • 29 January 2015 - 01:36 AM
    Rationalexuberance

    Bro... front tyres higher pressure. Engine heavy :)

    Nice, i wonder for hybrid how. batteries behind also quite heavy...Uniform pressure?


  • 29 January 2015 - 02:14 AM
    indulge



    Nice, i wonder for hybrid how. batteries behind also quite heavy...Uniform pressure?


    LOL... Thats how i remind myself front or back higher pressure
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