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Gotten the auto dimming rear mirror online as MI says they don't carry.

Gotten the auto dimming rear mirror online as MI says they don't carry.

from subaruonlineparts.com or somewhere else?
By the way, any change to other brand of tyres? I saw the reveiew from tirerack on the OE Bridgestone Dueler HT400 225/55r18 that comes with th car not very good, less than 30% says will buy again. How's it's performance? Saw more popular size is 235/55r18 and 245/50r18.

Anyone trade in the tire when just out collected car?

Was researching this a little too. Was interested also in the auto dimming side mirrors (with approach lights). Understand that the rear view mirror can work independently, and it can be used to power the side dimming mirrors.

Found out that the USDM are able to install this by default as there is existing wiring harness that is hidden below the sun glass compartment housing. Plug and play. (reference here: http://www.subarufor...6/topics/407578). And install instruction here (http://techinfo.suba...-h501ssg000.pdf)
However for European and JDM, seems like may not have this harness.

Personally have not open up the sunglass compartment to check yet, but will be doing it in time. The dimming mirrors is a feature I miss and would like. :)

Nice... auto dimming side mirrors too :)

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But changing the side and rear mirrors (not done by MI) will void warranty? And since they don't carry them here :(

Haha... �Like that drive a bit restraint.

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On top of that what is more important is to reduce the number of time your car has to stop in a journey.

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In my experience, many drivers like to chiong from one traffic light to another. The whole journey is slam acceleration, slam brakes.�

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For me, depending on traffic condition (When there is no one behind me), I will release my accelerator and let the car cruise comfortablely till the traffic junction. Usually, I can continue to drive without braking to a stop.

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As I am tend to remember the traffic light behaviour on the roads I drive, I can predict when it will turn green or red to help me modulate my driving style.

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The end result is better FC and less brake pad wear and tear. I must say that all these is done without being any road hog.

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I have tried driving crazily and driving sanely from North to West for a journey that will take about 25 min. The time difference the 2 styles is only about 3 minutes.

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Many a time, the traffic lights regulate our journey duration rather than our driving styles.

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For me, is not so much to save money but a challenge to be more efficient in driving.�

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my fuel economy (premium not XT) figures for first tank is about 12.5km/1L. �morning and evening work route during peak hours (70% highway 30%urban) is about 6.8 to 7.6 L/100km based on trip computer, depending on traffic flow. short trips 100% urban ranges from 8.8 to 11.2 L/KM based on trip computer.

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i find that this car is quite efficient when cruising on highway and urban 50 to 60 kmh without too many traffic lights. my driving pattern is following these driving tips shared by hiroshi masuoka.

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Haha... �Like that drive a bit restraint.
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On top of that what is more important is to reduce the number of time your car has to stop in a journey.
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In my experience, many drivers like to chiong from one traffic light to another. The whole journey is slam acceleration, slam brakes.�
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For me, depending on traffic condition (When there is no one behind me), I will release my accelerator and let the car cruise comfortablely till the traffic junction. Usually, I can continue to drive without braking to a stop.
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As I am tend to remember the traffic light behaviour on the roads I drive, I can predict when it will turn green or red to help me modulate my driving style.
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The end result is better FC and less brake pad wear and tear. I must say that all these is done without being any road hog.
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I have tried driving crazily and driving sanely from North to West for a journey that will take about 25 min. The time difference the 2 styles is only about 3 minutes.
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Many a time, the traffic lights regulate our journey duration rather than our driving styles.
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For me, is not so much to save money but a challenge to be more efficient in driving.�
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Dude, it's usually not about how fast you reach the destination, rather its about how you reach the destination.

It can be a boring and uneventful journey or an excited and fun filled journey thanks to the potential of your ride.

Some cars are meant for the first type of journey. Some are built for the second type.

Its your choice. ;)

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Checked with Workshop known for Subaru expert told me there is no LTA compliance exhuast.
Please help to confirm who can supply? Thanks in advance.

Anyone knows where else to get the body kits for forester?
MI is selling 600+ for the front lip.
Seems kinda expensive

Haha... Fair enough, is the journey not the destination.

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I'm not so into driving fast on a straight line. To me the feeling comes when you go round a bend faster than the rest. [laugh] ��

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I have met many drivers who drive like a reckless cheetah on a straight line. They will keep on pressing you from behind�

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Then just before the bend, they become a snail and suddenly they are 10 car length away after we exit the bend.

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I absolutely look down on such drivers.� :huh:

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With FXT though, I don't think I can do that anymore. Must give way to others liao.

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Must remember, with more power comes more responsibility.

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Dude, it's usually not about how fast you reach the destination, rather its about how you reach the destination.

It can be a boring and uneventful journey or an excited and fun filled journey thanks to the potential of your ride.

Some cars are meant for the first type of journey. Some are built for the second type.

Its your choice. ;)

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Someone just installed it at BMCSports I think.

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Checked with Workshop known for Subaru expert told me there is no LTA compliance exhuast.
Please help to confirm who can supply? Thanks in advance.

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Edited by Pioneer, 16 September 2015 - 01:52 PM.

I have tried driving crazily and driving sanely from North to West for a journey that will take about 25 min. The time difference the 2 styles is only about 3 minutes.

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Many a time, the traffic lights regulate our journey duration rather than our driving styles.

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For me, is not so much to save money but a challenge to be more efficient in driving.�

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True that... driving fast only cuts a few minutes and maybe one's life shorter as well.

Getting there safely is more important.

Forester auto-dimming mirror interior only is it?

I thought the exterior also.

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Been wondering, is there a compass in the interior rear view mirror? I recall reading about it in the user manual.

Haha... Fair enough, is the journey not the destination.

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I'm not so into driving fast on a straight line. To me the feeling comes when you go round a bend faster than the rest. ��

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I have met many drivers who drive like a reckless cheetah on a straight line. They will keep on pressing you from behind�

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Then just before the bend, they become a snail and suddenly they are 10 car length away after we exit the bend.

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I absolutely look down on such drivers.�

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With FXT though, I don't think I can do that anymore. Must give way to others liao.

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Got happy feeling when you go around a bend faster than a 5-series who zoom ahead then choose to brake there.... [drivingcar]

Haha... Fair enough, is the journey not the destination.

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I'm not so into driving fast on a straight line. To me the feeling comes when you go round a bend faster than the rest. ��

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I have met many drivers who drive like a reckless cheetah on a straight line. They will keep on pressing you from behind�

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Then just before the bend, they become a snail and suddenly they are 10 car length away after we exit the bend.

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I absolutely look down on such drivers.�

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With FXT though, I don't think I can do that anymore. Must give way to others liao.

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Must remember, with more power comes more responsibility.

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Forester XT with AWD cannot scramble its way around curves under power meh?? Should be do-able within limits, even though the body roll might be scary.�

I too prefer to measure the other driver's "hell-driver" level by the way he/she takes a curve/expressway exit/flyover ramp at speed --- straightline speeding and tailgating means nothing. Actually, a SUV's higher driving position makes it easier for me to anticipate traffic up ahead --- better for overtaking.

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Me driving a 2007 Murano and waiting for COE levels to come down before booking a FXT.

Edited by Ml2spin, 16 September 2015 - 03:51 PM.

Someone just installed it at BMCSports I think.
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I checked with them. There is no LTA compliance exhuast.
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My bad, I just saw it on their Facebook. HKS is approved. Wonder why he told me not approved yesterday. Lol

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Paiseh is BMS Motorsports

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My bad, I just saw it on their Facebook. HKS is approved. Wonder why he told me not approved yesterday. Lol

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Checked with Workshop known for Subaru expert told me there is no LTA compliance exhuast.
Please help to confirm who can supply? Thanks in advance.

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I will be collecting my FXT on the 22nd Sept.

can I check where can I purchase the original DRL beside from Motor Image & where can install?

thanks!

Checked with Workshop known for Subaru expert told me there is no LTA compliance exhuast.
Please help to confirm who can supply? Thanks in advance.

Hear the roar on YouTube. Sweeeeeeeee.

With is higher CG, it can never be compared to a sport sedan with a lower CG, spec for spec.

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FXT's brakes are not exactly very bitty. Haha.. Tailgate is dangerous thing to do with it.

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Forester XT with AWD cannot scramble its way around curves under power meh?? Should be do-able within limits, even though the body roll might be scary.�

I too prefer to measure the other driver's "hell-driver" level by the way he/she takes a curve/expressway exit/flyover ramp at speed --- straightline speeding and tailgating means nothing. Actually, a SUV's higher driving position makes it easier for me to anticipate traffic up ahead --- better for overtaking.

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Me driving a 2007 Murano and waiting for COE levels to come down before booking a FXT.

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Haha... Fair enough, is the journey not the destination.

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I have met many drivers who drive like a reckless cheetah on a straight line. They will keep on pressing you from behind�

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Then just before the bend, they become a snail and suddenly they are 10 car length away after we exit the bend.

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totally agree with u on some drivers slowing down to become a snail when it comes to a bend... i always call them straight road hero.. only a hero when comes to straight road.. always kana taligate by such people and only to shake them off when it comes to bend...

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tons of straight road heroes in singapore.. �wait... maybe becos i am a straight�road snail.. hahahahahahah

So you like the Forester? Cat B price drop is now very tempting.

yes I prefer the forester over Xtrail.. different animal. I like the Xtrail at first look. Second look feels that the interior is too clustered.. 3rd look totally write off.. only thing that's making me consider the Xtrail is the seats are really comfortable.

I have also tried other cars because my younger brothers one have a 2.5 CX5, another Sorento, and another CRV.

I like sorento for being able to stuff in 6 mid size adults, and 5 kids.. and nothing else.
CRV.. really nothing to like except it's a Honda..
2.5 CX5, interior not bad but not as good as what some critics have say until.. anywhere the MP3 function on the CX5 is really stupid.. don't have memory and always goes back to track1.. handling ok, not bad.. but it's more Expensive than the FXT.. and CX5 does not have 350nm of torque..

The cheap, simple yet functional cabin of the FXT grows to me.. and after the 3rd visit to showroom.. I actually prefer the simple dashboard of this car.

So, finally booked it last Sunday $127,800 6 bid guaranteed COE, waiting for next week COE bidding.

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I am new to this forum and was hoping someone could help with a question I have.

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What does free 5 years / 100,000km servicing mean ? � Is it just free labour for the items on the standard servicing checklist or includes some consumables ? � Apologies if this question had been asked and answered before. � I drive a 2.0XT dark metallic grey.

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Thanks.

yes I prefer the forester over Xtrail.. different animal. I like the Xtrail at first look. Second look feels that the interior is too clustered.. 3rd look totally write off.. only thing that's making me consider the Xtrail is the seats are really comfortable.

I have also tried other cars because my younger brothers one have a 2.5 CX5, another Sorento, and another CRV.

I like sorento for being able to stuff in 6 mid size adults, and 5 kids.. and nothing else.
CRV.. really nothing to like except it's a Honda..
2.5 CX5, interior not bad but not as good as what some critics have say until.. anywhere the MP3 function on the CX5 is really stupid.. don't have memory and always goes back to track1.. handling ok, not bad.. but it's more Expensive than the FXT.. and CX5 does not have 350nm of torque..

The cheap, simple yet functional cabin of the FXT grows to me.. and after the 3rd visit to showroom.. I actually prefer the simple dashboard of this car.

So, finally booked it last Sunday $127,800 6 bid guaranteed COE, waiting for next week COE bidding.

Other than the equipment of this car is outdated, did u consider its worst FC amount it's peer? Ty

Hi Everyone,

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I am new to this forum and was hoping someone could help with a question I have.

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What does free 5 years / 100,000km servicing mean ? � Is it just free labour for the items on the standard servicing checklist or includes some consumables ? � Apologies if this question had been asked and answered before. � I drive a 2.0XT dark metallic grey.

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Thanks.

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Inclusive of labour, consumable spares, such as lub. oil, filter, wiper blades etc.. within the 100,000km service period or 5 years, which ever come first.�

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Normal wear and tear not included. Such as tyres, battery etc..

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Hope this assist.

Other than the equipment of this car is outdated, did u consider its worst FC amount it's peer? Ty

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Car interior looking abit�dated and spartan�doesn't mean it's equipment is outdated. Please get this straight. It's equipment level does not lose to it's competitors and it's the reason why many choose this car (including me), even if it looks Spartan and has not much curves. You use SGcarmart�do a comparision on the equipment level of the Forester with it's peers of the same price and class, you'll be surprised.

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FC is relative to power. It may have the worst FC but it's also WAY more powerful than the rest�in it's class. It's up to you if you are willing to sacrifice power for FC. Also, this ride can be driven decently too and ave FC can hit 9.5 to�10km/l realistically in local roads which is almost the same as it's peers. For 2.0 Turbo with 350nm of torque, not bad liao.

Edited by Pocus, 18 September 2015 - 10:14 AM.

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Car interior looking abit�dated and spartan�doesn't mean it's equipment is outdated. Please get this straight. It's equipment level does not lose to it's competitors and it's the reason why many choose this car (including me), even if it looks Spartan and has not much curves. You use SGcarmart�do a comparision on the equipment level of the Forester with it's peers of the same price and class, you'll be surprised.

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FC is relative to power. It may have the worst FC but it's also WAY more powerful than the rest�in it's class. It's up to you if you are willing to sacrifice power for FC. Also, this ride can be driven decently too and ave FC can hit 9.5 to�10km/l realistically in local roads which is almost the same as it's peers. For 2.0 Turbo with 350nm of torque, not bad liao.

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Well said, I seconded that.

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Equipment and features certainly are much better compare to other made at this price point.

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Also FC is really not that bad, for my travelling pattern of 90% highway 10% urban, with a few red line acceleration in S# or S mode on every single drive (usually in manual paddle shifter mode), I've been able tto get avg of 12.8km/l tank after tank.

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Overall, really like this car and no horse run!

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Well said, I seconded that.

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Equipment and features certainly are much better compare to other made at this price point.

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Also FC is really not that bad, for my travelling pattern of 90% highway 10% urban, with a few red line acceleration in S# or S mode on every single drive (usually in manual paddle shifter mode), I've been able tto get avg of 12.8km/l tank after tank.

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Overall, really like this car and no horse run!

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LOL realistically speaking, 90%highway is a rare travel pattern.

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my is about 60-70% highway , getting about 9.5 to 10.4l/100km which is 10.5 to 9.6km/l, mostly on i-mode.

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If I feeling crazy and switch to S and S# the whole journey, FC meter can go to 8km/l..lol

Edited by Pocus, 18 September 2015 - 10:30 AM.

In Japan the satin white paint is an optional extra. I think because it requires 1 layer more than the other colours. Here is in Singapore it is the same price ;)
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Downside is when it rains the car gets dirty - need a bit more looking after than colours like silver. Also, I find the metal body is easy to clean, but the the white bumper is harder to wash the dirt off. Not very noticable, but if you look closely the grey stains from the rain tend to soak in.

I like my cars to look dirty outside.. of course I usually have coated the paint with some good collinite wax.. people usually don't want to walk too close or near dirty cars.. prevent unwanted scratches. In ocotber, if u see any white FXT that's extremely dirty, likely to be my car hehe

What is the kerb weight of this car?

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Other than the equipment of this car is outdated, did u consider its worst FC amount it's peer? Ty

seriously if FC is a consideration, one should go for below 1.5L or even hybrid.. but the higher cost of the hydrid makes cost wise back to square one. Maybe diesel but what if LTA reverse their discount for diesel surcharge for private cars? They have screwed CNG cars before so....

Anyway I drive around 2000km a month so petrol is $270-$400 so not that big worry, and I'm ok with 1km for 7 to 9km mileage on a car that can deliver some relatively good performance
I think if one if thinking of good FC, then went to get another car that cost 20-50k more to save that $100-$300 per month of petrol doenst make sense...

Maybe it's better to use that 20-50k extra $$ into some bank shares or blue chip shares.. receive dividend offset the increase monthly fuel cost, and still have potential upside.. of course must buy at right time, don't buy when it's at all time high la

What is the kerb weight of this car?
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somewhere more than 1000kg, less than 2000kg

somewhere more than 1000kg, less than 2000kg

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LOL... it's actually around 1600kg

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the price point really attractive. almost 10-20k cheaper than others in its class?

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so tempting....

the price point really attractive. almost 10-20k cheaper than others in its class?
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so tempting....

10 to 20k cheaper because its OMV is ~10k cheaper than its competitor

seriously if FC is a consideration, one should go for below 1.5L or even hybrid.. but the higher cost of the hydrid makes cost wise back to square one. Maybe diesel but what if LTA reverse their discount for diesel surcharge for private cars? They have screwed CNG cars before so....

Anyway I drive around 2000km a month so petrol is $270-$400 so not that big worry, and I'm ok with 1km for 7 to 9km mileage on a car that can deliver some relatively good performance
I think if one if thinking of good FC, then went to get another car that cost 20-50k more to save that $100-$300 per month of petrol doenst make sense...

Maybe it's better to use that 20-50k extra $$ into some bank shares or blue chip shares.. receive dividend offset the increase monthly fuel cost, and still have potential upside.. of course must buy at right time, don't buy when it's at all time high la
somewhere more than 1000kg, less than 2000kg

I am heavy footed. I read for review tht it is 7km/L. My currently drive use give 10km/L but after 7 yrs it give me 7km/l. I cant imagine if i get 4 to 5km/l per with forester, i got to visit and pump pertol every 2 days. Too troublesome for me

seriously if FC is a consideration, one should go for below 1.5L or even hybrid.. but the higher cost of the hydrid makes cost wise back to square one. Maybe diesel but what if LTA reverse their discount for diesel surcharge for private cars? They have screwed CNG cars before so....

Anyway I drive around 2000km a month so petrol is $270-$400 so not that big worry, and I'm ok with 1km for 7 to 9km mileage on a car that can deliver some relatively good performance
I think if one if thinking of good FC, then went to get another car that cost 20-50k more to save that $100-$300 per month of petrol doenst make sense...

Maybe it's better to use that 20-50k extra $$ into some bank shares or blue chip shares.. receive dividend offset the increase monthly fuel cost, and still have potential upside.. of course must buy at right time, don't buy when it's at all time high la
somewhere more than 1000kg, less than 2000kg

I am heavy footed. I read for review tht it is 7km/L. My currently drive use give 10km/L but after 7 yrs it give me 7km/l. I cant imagine if i get 4 to 5km/l per with forester, i got to visit and pump pertol every 2 days. Too troublesome for me

10 to 20k cheaper because its OMV is ~10k cheaper than its competitor

I am heavy footed. I read for review tht it is 7km/L. My currently drive use give 10km/L but after 7 yrs it give me 7km/l. I cant imagine if i get 4 to 5km/l per with forester, i got to visit and pump pertol every 2 days. Too troublesome for me

I am heavy footed. I read for review tht it is 7km/L. My currently drive use give 10km/L but after 7 yrs it give me 7km/l. I cant imagine if i get 4 to 5km/l per with forester, i got to visit and pump pertol every 2 days. Too troublesome for me

Don't get the XT lor, get the normal 2.0. I saw some said here that the FC is not that bad and it is not over-powered nor� under-powered. But of course, one has to test drive to judge for themselves.

Hi Everyone,

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I am new to this forum and was hoping someone could help with a question I have.

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What does free 5 years / 100,000km servicing mean ? � Is it just free labour for the items on the standard servicing checklist or includes some consumables ? � Apologies if this question had been asked and answered before. � I drive a 2.0XT dark metallic grey.

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Thanks.

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Warranty itself means factory covers the car against defects and failures that are not normal wear and tear for five years.

Example, your engine, when properly maintained or suspension with appropriate care, fail prematurely under normal conditions, this is considered failure under warranty.

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Servicing plan is not necessarily part of warranty, but Subaru used to offer five years servicing plan.

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Well said, I seconded that.
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Equipment and features certainly are much better compare to other made at this price point.
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Also FC is really not that bad, for my travelling pattern of 90% highway 10% urban, with a few red line acceleration in S# or S mode on every single drive (usually in manual paddle shifter mode), I've been able tto get avg of 12.8km/l tank after tank.
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Overall, really like this car and no horse run!

Agree, given the horse power, AWD, the drive, the equipment (sound system, HUGe sunroof)
Passenger space, boot size. This is a very good package.

To me the interior design and the form is actually good. Only the materials doesn't feel luxury, which I feel you can improve with a few hundred bucks with workshops that does interior.

This is more like a car with substance then look. A bit of the "clothing" it will help.

Forester is overall outdated to me, imo, but it definitely has things where they count with a decent sound system and powerful engine.

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Interior design is a bit too 'workmanlike' for my taste, but it's mostly well screwed together, except for the flimsy door bin plastic.

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However Subaru's latest technologies have been casually stripped off by MotorImage which kind of puts me off.

And Subie is pretty slow to embrace some of the trends that would add a higher tech feel, like for example the Forester still uses reflector HIDs rather than bi-xenon projectors and their tail lights are still bulbs.

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Car interior looking abit�dated and spartan�doesn't mean it's equipment is outdated. Please get this straight. It's equipment level does not lose to it's competitors and it's the reason why many choose this car (including me), even if it looks Spartan and has not much curves. You use SGcarmart�do a comparision on the equipment level of the Forester with it's peers of the same price and class, you'll be surprised.

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FC is relative to power. It may have the worst FC but it's also WAY more powerful than the rest�in it's class. It's up to you if you are willing to sacrifice power for FC. Also, this ride can be driven decently too and ave FC can hit 9.5 to�10km/l realistically in local roads which is almost the same as it's peers. For 2.0 Turbo with 350nm of torque, not bad liao.

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Well said.

For SUV to have similar performance, it will cost at least $100k more.

For car like BMW X3, Volvo XC60, Audi Q5 or Range Rover. And all this car FC also very similar to the FXT.

10 to 20k cheaper because its OMV is ~10k cheaper than its competitor

I am heavy footed. I read for review tht it is 7km/L. My currently drive use give 10km/L but after 7 yrs it give me 7km/l. I cant imagine if i get 4 to 5km/l per with forester, i got to visit and pump pertol every 2 days. Too troublesome for me

I am heavy footed. I read for review tht it is 7km/L. My currently drive use give 10km/L but after 7 yrs it give me 7km/l. I cant imagine if i get 4 to 5km/l per with forester, i got to visit and pump pertol every 2 days. Too troublesome for me

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It depends how you take �care of your car. FC may not always get worst when it is well maintain.

My current 2.0L NA conti when I bought it was 4.5yrs old. The 1st half year when driving it, the FC was about 8-8.5km/L.

Currently, car is 9yr3mth. My average FC is 9.5-10.5km/L. I travel about 3000km per month and no change in my driving pattern.

Currently I am also eyeing the FXT as replacement car.

Random question on stock tyres:
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How is the stock Bridgestone Dueler doing?
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If you are given a choice what would you rather get?�

I would get Pirelli Scorpion Verde All Season Plus if it can be found in Singapore... I'm on Pirelli Pzero Nero on current car.. live it deeply

Sometimes heavy foot comes from the fact that the car you have been driving cars that are not fast enough for you.

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Maybe you bought cars looking at their FC more than the torque and bhp and then realised you have to step more to reach the speed you want.

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10 to 20k cheaper because its OMV is ~10k cheaper than its competitor

I am heavy footed. I read for review tht it is 7km/L. My currently drive use give 10km/L but after 7 yrs it give me 7km/l. I cant imagine if i get 4 to 5km/l per with forester, i got to visit and pump pertol every 2 days. Too troublesome for me

I am heavy footed. I read for review tht it is 7km/L. My currently drive use give 10km/L but after 7 yrs it give me 7km/l. I cant imagine if i get 4 to 5km/l per with forester, i got to visit and pump pertol every 2 days. Too troublesome for me

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Well said.

For SUV to have similar performance, it will cost at least $100k more.

For car like BMW X3, Volvo XC60, Audi Q5 or Range Rover. And all this car FC also very similar to the FXT.

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I think the current Q5 or X3 or T5 DrivE XC60 all can do more than 12.5km/l leh.

Sometimes heavy foot comes from the fact that the car you have been driving cars that are not fast enough for you.

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Maybe you bought cars looking at their FC more than the torque and bhp and then realised you have to step more to reach the speed you want.

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my old car 100hp... need to floor the pedal to pick up sometimes and that affects the overall fc.

new ride can get up to speed with 10% of pedal... ends up same fc result liao... but burn more when idling [dizzy]

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I think the current Q5 or X3 or T5 DrivE XC60 all can do more than 12.5km/l leh.
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My colleague driving new X3 for more than half year. Always hear him complain FC less than 10km/L.
12.5km/L is ideal case lah, I think not easy to get here.

And these car cost at least $100k more.

Toyota Harrier look good. But performance no way close to FXT and it is $20k more.

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I think the current Q5 or X3 or T5 DrivE XC60 all can do more than 12.5km/l leh.

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XC60 12.5km/l? From feedback don't think so. Local traffic�FC is closer to 11km/l, slightly better than FXT due to FWD. And why are we even comparing those? They are all 200k and above! LOL

10 to 20k cheaper because its OMV is ~10k cheaper than its competitor

I am heavy footed. I read for review tht it is 7km/L. My currently drive use give 10km/L but after 7 yrs it give me 7km/l. I cant imagine if i get 4 to 5km/l per with forester, i got to visit and pump pertol every 2 days. Too troublesome for me

I am heavy footed. I read for review tht it is 7km/L. My currently drive use give 10km/L but after 7 yrs it give me 7km/l. I cant imagine if i get 4 to 5km/l per with forester, i got to visit and pump pertol every 2 days. Too troublesome for me

u should consider a XC90 with a 70-80litre tank..

My colleague driving new X3 for more than half year. Always hear him complain FC less than 10km/L.
12.5km/L is ideal case lah, I think not easy to get here.

And these car cost at least $100k more.

Toyota Harrier look good. But performance no way close to FXT and it is $20k more.

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If can afford a car that costs S$200k or more... why complain about the FC? �Unless he/she wants to be environmentally cautious? Then should buy a hybrid car

10 to 20k cheaper because its OMV is ~10k cheaper than its competitor

I am heavy footed. I read for review tht it is 7km/L. My currently drive use give 10km/L but after 7 yrs it give me 7km/l. I cant imagine if i get 4 to 5km/l per with forester, i got to visit and pump pertol every 2 days. Too troublesome for me

I am heavy footed. I read for review tht it is 7km/L. My currently drive use give 10km/L but after 7 yrs it give me 7km/l. I cant imagine if i get 4 to 5km/l per with forester, i got to visit and pump pertol every 2 days. Too troublesome for me

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If FC is your one of your concern, suggest Vezel Hybrid and it's a Cat B car with 150bhp :)

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Too bad they don't have Tesla Model S or X here in SG :(

Edited by SimonChua_160516, 18 September 2015 - 04:01 PM.

Thank you Whitemondeo and 7hm for your helpful replies.

I recall I signed the agreement during the time when the promotion for the free 5 year/100k km servicing was on. I confirmed this today with the sales person and also found the price list for that period which states the same.

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If can afford a car that costs S$200k or more... why complain about the FC? �Unless he/she wants to be environmentally cautious? Then should buy a hybrid car

I fully agreed on that. .

But with the same FC, you have 90% power left untapped.

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I was also very into FC, still I guess, so like many, I never thought of getting a Subaru.

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Sure, Subaru cars can be considered as ugly, cheap or cheap to some and TBH, I have never considered a FXT. I tested Veloster Turbo, CX-5 and QQ and was on the verge on signing for the 1.2T QQ but at las, the delivery was going to be in Oct/Nov and the 2.0L version was available but cost 12-14k more.�

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It was a random thought that prompted me to look at the FXT in the showroom. I realised the car looks so much better in real life. Someone should sack the Subaru photographer.

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In the end, I realised that this is the cheapest car for its BHP and Torque and that kinda convinced me.

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As I go online to learn more about Subaru, I realised I am bought over by their philosophy in car design.

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My previous car, Astra GTC, 1.4cc turbo charged engine with about 200Nm torque also 10km/l. Subaru Forester with 240BHP and 350Nm Torque also 10km/l.

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I have owned a mx-5, the supposedly best handling budget car. I wasn't impressed. For me, it has been always about torque, torque and more torque. I don't need speed, I need acceleration.

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I think the current Q5 or X3 or T5 DrivE XC60 all can do more than 12.5km/l leh.

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my old car 100hp... need to floor the pedal to pick up sometimes and that affects the overall fc.

new ride can get up to speed with 10% of pedal... ends up same fc result liao... but burn more when idling

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XC60 12.5km/l? From feedback don't think so. Local traffic�FC is closer to 11km/l, slightly better than FXT due to FWD. And why are we even comparing those? They are all 200k and above! LOL

recently I have project at Tuas, daily driving about 100km, in car computer display FC 7.6L/100km, best once 6.8L/100km in evening time, convert to 14.7km/L,

very good FC for�2.0T, AWD SUV,

recently I have project at Tuas, daily driving about 100km, in car computer display FC 7.6L/100km, best once 6.8L/100km in evening time, convert to 14.7km/L,
very good FC for�2.0T, AWD SUV,

maybe next time you drive to KL at 90km/hr all the way can reach 1L=18km?

Don't get the XT lor, get the normal 2.0. I saw some said here that the FC is not that bad and it is not over-powered nor� under-powered. But of course, one has to test drive to judge for themselves.

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If only The normal 2.0 come with the same sound systems. I was considering the XT not because of the power (redundant to me) but because of the better sound systems.

Haha.. Wouldn't it make more sense to just get the 2.0 and spend 1-2k to upgrade the Audio System?

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Very strange that people buy a car based on the audio system.

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If only The normal 2.0 come with the same sound systems. I was considering the XT not because of the power (redundant to me) but because of the better sound systems.

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If only The normal 2.0 come with the same sound systems. I was considering the XT not because of the power (redundant to me) but because of the better sound systems.

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Errr....the sound system is not exactly that light years away compared to the Premium 2.0. It just comes with better brand speakers and an amp that all.

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I believe you can get better speakers and Amp outside.

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But based on your past few post, I guess not only do you not like the Forester, you seemed to have a strong biased and dislike for Forester or Subaru cars in general.

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Oh well, maybe the Hyundai Tuscon or CX5 would suit you better. It's your money dude....cheers.. [wave]

Edited by Pocus, 18 September 2015 - 11:33 PM.

But with the same FC, you have 90% power left untapped.

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I was also very into FC, still I guess, so like many, I never thought of getting a Subaru.

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Sure, Subaru cars can be considered as ugly, cheap or cheap to some and TBH, I have never considered a FXT. I tested Veloster Turbo, CX-5 and QQ and was on the verge on signing for the 1.2T QQ but at las, the delivery was going to be in Oct/Nov and the 2.0L version was available but cost 12-14k more.�

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It was a random thought that prompted me to look at the FXT in the showroom. I realised the car looks so much better in real life. Someone should sack the Subaru photographer.

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In the end, I realised that this is the cheapest car for its BHP and Torque and that kinda convinced me.

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As I go online to learn more about Subaru, I realised I am bought over by their philosophy in car design.

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My previous car, Astra GTC, 1.4cc turbo charged engine with about 200Nm torque also 10km/l. Subaru Forester with 240BHP and 350Nm Torque also 10km/l.

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I have owned a mx-5, the supposedly best handling budget car. I wasn't impressed. For me, it has been always about torque, torque and more torque. I don't need speed, I need acceleration.

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I think driving at peak torque consumes much less power than peak power (peak power is consumed when driving at peak HP).

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But if you habitually drive equally fast in the Astra and in the Forester, the Forester clearly has better fuel efficiency considering that it is AWD and weigh much more.�

It is like choosing a laptop based on the colour of the free laptop bag it comes with.�

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Errr....the sound system is not exactly that light years away compared to the Premium 2.0. It just comes with better brand speakers and an amp that all.

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I believe you can get better speakers and Amp outside.

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But based on your past few post, I guess not only do you not like the Forester, you seemed to have a strong biased and dislike for Forester or Subaru cars in general.

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Oh well, maybe the Hyundai Tuscon or CX5 would suit you better. It's your money dude....cheers..

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It is like choosing a laptop based on the colour of the free laptop bag it comes with.�
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even if 2.0 comes with Mark levinson system or Macintosh system.. high chance wouldn't buy.. some people ?? only.. got to say the least not important point to justify why don't buy... Why is this so?? Bec the person knows other more important point is true and quite unmatched at this price point of 119k or 127k SUV AWD.
In today's context of 60k coe, and at a price of below 130k.. I really cannot convince myself to get other SUV models that are below 130k.. only other choice is Vezel, Suzuki, Sangyong, Toyota Rush.. but same specs?

I think driving at peak torque consumes much less power than peak power (peak power is consumed when driving at peak HP).

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But if you habitually drive equally fast in the Astra and in the Forester, the Forester clearly has better fuel efficiency considering that it is AWD and weigh much more.�

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Considering a Forester can make enough power to cruise at 14km/l on highway, I think it's more "efficient" than my old car that has to work at 3,500rpm to cruise at 90km/l [:p]

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Considering a Forester can make enough power to cruise at 14km/l on highway, I think it's more "efficient" than my old car that has to work at 3,500rpm to cruise at 90km/l

Just curious, your new Mondeo is the 2.0T or 1.5T.

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Errr....the sound system is not exactly that light years away compared to the Premium 2.0. It just comes with better brand speakers and an amp that all.

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I believe you can get better speakers and Amp outside.

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But based on your past few post, I guess not only do you not like the Forester, you seemed to have a strong biased and dislike for Forester or Subaru cars in general.

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Oh well, maybe the Hyundai Tuscon or CX5 would suit you better. It's your money dude....cheers..

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In my opinion,�the�2 version made a great difference to me. Upon hearing the concert quality (11 speaker) from Superb few years back during my test drive, I have made up my mind that my next car must have such kind of sound quality. Too bad Superb is no longer selling here. I got to look for an alternative. And pls do not�recommend me to mod the car. This is out of my preference and noob to that (+ void warranty).

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CX5 sound quality�only equivalent to Forester XT unless it come with the Bose systems . Not sure their basic model come with that.

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As for Tucson, although 6 speaker, upon hearing, I feel that it is a grade above the Forester Premium which I can live with such sound quality although not a wow factor.

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Btw, Forester is my 1st choice when I start test driving on SUV. The main concerns that deter me is the lowest OMV with higher insurance & FC as compare with�its peer. Tucson is never in my radar until I test drive last week.

In my opinion,�the�2 version made a great difference to me. Upon hearing the concert quality (11 speaker) from Superb few years back during my test drive, I have made up my mind that my next car must have such kind of sound quality. Too bad Superb is no longer selling here. I got to look for an alternative. And pls do not�recommend me to mod the car. This is out of my preference and noob to that (+ void warranty).

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CX5 sound quality�only equivalent to Forester XT unless it come with the Bose systems . Not sure their basic model come with that.

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As for Tucson, although 6 speaker, upon hearing, I feel that it is a grade above the Forester Premium which I can live with such sound quality although not a wow factor.

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Btw, Forester is my 1st choice when I start test driving on SUV. The main concerns that deter me is the lowest OMV with higher insurance & FC as compare with�its peer. Tucson is never in my radar until I test drive last week.

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Maybe you can try out the Passat's DYNAUDIO system...

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As for Tucson, Hyundai sound systems are surprisingly good. Their engineers are picking out good hardware and tuning it well. It's not about how many drivers are in a speaker, it's about how they produce the sound... for me I am very particular about crispness and treble.

As for Forester's system, it is not bad, fairly strong mids and bass is definitely above average.

Just curious, your new Mondeo is the 2.0T or 1.5T.

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2.0 EcoBoost... same output figures as Forester coincidentally (240hp/350Nm)

Edited by 7hm, 19 September 2015 - 08:43 PM.

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In my opinion,�the�2 version made a great difference to me. Upon hearing the concert quality (11 speaker) from Superb few years back during my test drive, I have made up my mind that my next car must have such kind of sound quality. Too bad Superb is no longer selling here. I got to look for an alternative. And pls do not�recommend me to mod the car. This is out of my preference and noob to that (+ void warranty).
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CX5 sound quality�only equivalent to Forester XT unless it come with the Bose systems . Not sure their basic model come with that.
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As for Tucson, although 6 speaker, upon hearing, I feel that it is a grade above the Forester Premium which I can live with such sound quality although not a wow factor.
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Btw, Forester is my 1st choice when I start test driving on SUV. The main concerns that deter me is the lowest OMV with higher insurance & FC as compare with�its peer. Tucson is never in my radar until I test drive last week.

not encouraging u to get or discouraging u... But all look at annual depreciation.. if forester having Low omv but sell higher and have higher selling price translating to higher depreciation.. then of course not worth it. But at 119 for NA with omv of 15k and 20+% of gross profit.. Compared to others at 130-140+ at 20k omv.. and high 20+% of profit..

anyway omv and ARF is paid to government so seriously why pay more?

But it's yr $$ so u decide what makes u happy

I'm driving an XV but just thought I should ask on this thread too... Anyone knows where I can get subaru touch up paint? Got a small chip from a stone at the lower side of the passenger door yesterday on the expressway.

Went to MI today but they don't sell the touch up paint. Instead they say they will touch up for me during my next servicing which is 5 months away...

Don't forget, higher OMV -> Higher Selling Price -> Higher Loan -> Pay more Interest.

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In short, it is not entirely bad to have lower OMW. In this case, �The profit margin for FXT is not higher than most other ADs.�

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not encouraging u to get or discouraging u... But all look at annual depreciation.. if forester having Low omv but sell higher and have higher selling price translating to higher depreciation.. then of course not worth it. But at 119 for NA with omv of 15k and 20+% of gross profit.. Compared to others at 130-140+ at 20k omv.. and high 20+% of profit..

anyway omv and ARF is paid to government so seriously why pay more?

But it's yr $$ so u decide what makes u happy

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what I know during my test drive, the SE told me that the OMV is 13.8k not 15k. This is even cheaper than a1.5L bread and butter sedan. I understand where you are coming from but�due to above concerns I have highlighted earlier and�the least attractive look among its peer, I need to think twice.

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If Tucson does not reduce its price after few mth, maybe I will get either premium or XT. but none of the brand has my prefer dark blue in colour.

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not encouraging u to get or discouraging u... But all look at annual depreciation.. if forester having Low omv but sell higher and have higher selling price translating to higher depreciation.. then of course not worth it. But at 119 for NA with omv of 15k and 20+% of gross profit.. Compared to others at 130-140+ at 20k omv.. and high 20+% of profit..

anyway omv and ARF is paid to government so seriously why pay more?

But it's yr $$ so u decide what makes u happy

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Btw, Forester is my 1st choice when I start test driving on SUV. The main concerns that deter me is the lowest OMV with higher insurance & FC as compare with�its peer. Tucson is never in my radar until I test drive last week.

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As many have mentioned before:

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OMV, it's low, but the selling price is low too, it's not like MI profit margin very high.

eg. Ford Kuga Trend OMV is 21k but selling for 141K official price. Sure most buyers will get discount price instead of the 141k price, but MI give discount too. So you figure.

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Insurance: It's already been debunk Subaru's insurance is the same as other cars of it's class, especially for the Forester and other B&B lineup, I think repeated this at least 3 times liao. Don't believe us just call MI and ask them to quote you.

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FC: if peers you mean lower CC lower powered cars, ok fine. Anyway let's not go deeper since it's covered in other post.

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Just curious: Besides CX5 and Tuscon, what other cars you looked?

Have you looked at the Ford Kuga? I got a feeling you'll love it,(1) they got decent sound system by Sony, (2) looks nice with correct curves, (3) decent 1.5l turbo engine yet fuel efficient for it's class, (4) has your fav dark blue color. You should go take a look. It's my 2nd choice before I chose the Forester.

Don't place too much emphasis on OMV. Different dealers play differently with the system. Double the OMV doesn't mean you get double. But higher OMV definitely means higher depreciation.

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If you wish to "value" a car, better to refer to overseas pricing (UK/US websites), very transparent.�

E.g.:

1. Forester XT 30k pounds�(cheaper than a base�BMW 3)

2. QQ 1.2 highest spec 24k

3. CX-5 2.0 25k

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Compare this against the S$ selling price and you get an idea of "how much car you are really buying per S$".

(of course the features and specs may differ a little, but you get the picture)

SE already told me my insurance is 1.8k. If don't use theirs will need to remove some discount. Tucson SE quote me 1.1k insurance.

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Yes Kuga sound systems & handling is�good�but failed my OC approval due to her complaint that the rear width is smaller (crampy) than forester and Tucson.

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Insurance: It's already been debunk Subaru's insurance is the same as other cars of it's class, especially for the Forester and other B&B lineup, I think repeated this at least 3 times liao. Don't believe us just call MI and ask them to quote you.

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Just curious: Besides CX5 and Tuscon, what other cars you looked?

Have you looked at the Ford Kuga? I got a feeling you'll love it,(1) they got decent sound system by Sony, (2) looks nice with correct curves, (3) decent 1.5l turbo engine yet fuel efficient for it's class, (4) has your fav dark blue color. You should go take a look. It's my 2nd choice before I chose the Forester.

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Edited by Axela72, 20 September 2015 - 12:03 AM.

what I know during my test drive, the SE told me that the OMV is 13.8k not 15k. This is even cheaper than a1.5L bread and butter sedan. I understand where you are coming from but�due to above concerns I have highlighted earlier and�the least attractive look among its peer, I need to think twice.

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If Tucson does not reduce its price after few mth, maybe I will get either premium or XT. but none of the brand has my prefer dark blue in colour.

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But how Subaru make their car omv so long?

Hi,
Any bros has any recommendation/comment whether 95 or 98 petrol grade will be suitable? Understand that I can use 95.

Look at other brand with such OMV, some during promotion can even sell at below 100k. Cruze for example at 16.3k OMV list price at 120k. Now promotion at 100k

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But how Subaru make their car omv so long?

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From all the post, i think there is no point of you hovering over cars at this price point/range. You should be looking at probably the lexus nx200t or the lexus rx if you prefer jap cars, or the bmw x5 or the xc90 if you prefer euro. All are built to impress with high quality comfort / performance.

Dun think any of the jap cars at this price point fullfill your requirements.

I think you should really think hard, maybe give it a try and know what's its like. Than buy n regret

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In my opinion,�the�2 version made a great difference to me. Upon hearing the concert quality (11 speaker) from Superb few years back during my test drive, I have made up my mind that my next car must have such kind of sound quality. Too bad Superb is no longer selling here. I got to look for an alternative. And pls do not�recommend me to mod the car. This is out of my preference and noob to that (+ void warranty).
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CX5 sound quality�only equivalent to Forester XT unless it come with the Bose systems . Not sure their basic model come with that.
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As for Tucson, although 6 speaker, upon hearing, I feel that it is a grade above the Forester Premium which I can live with such sound quality although not a wow factor.
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Btw, Forester is my 1st choice when I start test driving on SUV. The main concerns that deter me is the lowest OMV with higher insurance & FC as compare with�its peer. Tucson is never in my radar until I test drive last week.

Edited by Redsurfer777, 20 September 2015 - 01:04 AM.

But how Subaru make their car omv so long?

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They bring in very low spec units and do a lot of local work such as local leather and reverse sensors.

Toyota does a similar thing, though theirs is even more extreme - air-con system also local!

Hi,
Any bros has any recommendation/comment whether 95 or 98 petrol grade will be suitable? Understand that I can use 95.

Like most turbo cars, 95 for long run economy, 98 if you are feeling naughty(or rich) for a spirited run.

Bro pocus, any meet up for foresters?

btw, Nissan Qashqai 1.2L OMV is 19k. List price 116.8k

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Look at other brand with such OMV, some during promotion can even sell at below 100k. Cruze for example at 16.3k OMV list price at 120k. Now promotion at 100k

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"CX5 sound quality�only equivalent to Forester XT unless it come with the Bose systems . Not sure their basic model come with that."

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Alexa72,

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No the basic Mazda CX-5 model (2.0L Standard) does not come with the BOSE sound system.� Only its 2.0L Premium, 2.5L Luxury and 2.2L Diesel comes with the BOSE Audio System with 9 BOSE speakers.

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Cheers:)

btw, Nissan Qashqai 1.2L OMV is 19k. List price 116.8k
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And incidentally both nissan and subaru dealers falls under the same parent company.

So you like the Qashqai now?
You know I felt that since you not into this car, perhaps there no point harping over it in this thread.

Perhaps you should participate on other threads to find the car you really want.

Rims anyone? Stamford tyres lok yang.

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If you are so concern about the OMV and selling price...And from all you had post, you should not buy the FXT. As you may regret later, better buy others car.
It look to me that you are having a heart and mind war...in one way you want the car, another way finding all reason not to get this car..

Bro pocus, any meet up for foresters?

I also want to know.
Has not sign on one yet, but good to join a MU from existing owners to know more about the car...

If you are so concern about the OMV and selling price...And from all you had post, you should not buy the FXT. As you may regret later, better buy others car.
It look to me that you are having a heart and mind war...in one way you want the car, another way finding all reason not to get this car..

I also want to know.
Has not sign on one yet, but good to join a MU from existing owners to know more about the car...

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Waiting for you to commit to the fun side! :P

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Waiting for you to commit to the fun side! :P

Current car left 10mth and no more loan.. so hope to see COE go down a bit more.
Once sign on has to start paying loan. Just see how long my back side itchy can tahan..

Current car left 10mth and no more loan.. so hope to see COE go down a bit more.
Once sign on has to start paying loan. Just see how long my back side itchy can tahan..

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Was in somewhat the same situation. My itch couldn't be contained. lol

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Steady that you can lun! more power to you! :)

just booked the xt on sat - bought the black edition

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was searching around for user feedback on the car and saw that the main concern was with FC and OMV.

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my 2 cents thoughts:

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Have you test drove the car yet? we buy car based on our driving experience as well not by just looking at the paper. Its an easy, fun to drive and seriously very powerful car.

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Valid point on FC - if you drive 100km every day, you shd look at harrier which will�have a�better FC. it cost 25k more thou. count ur driving pattern (KM�per year) �and calculate the incremental cost to that you can rationalize. But also remember this is a 240hp car, same as a BMW 428i. you really expect this to have good FC?

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OMV - the lower I pay, the happier I am.�Don't think�so far on the resale value - think�of depreciation, its a big factor when pple buy 2nd hand cars. I don't care what omv I have, as long as its the right depreciation I will buy..

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just booked the xt on sat - bought the black edition
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was searching around for user feedback on the car and saw that the main concern was with FC and OMV.
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my 2 cents thoughts:
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Have you test drove the car yet? we buy car based on our driving experience as well not by just looking at the paper. Its an easy, fun to drive and seriously very powerful car.
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Valid point on FC - if you drive 100km every day, you shd look at harrier which will�have a�better FC. it cost 25k more thou. count ur driving pattern (KM�per year) �and calculate the incremental cost to that you can rationalize. But also remember this is a 240hp car, same as a BMW 428i. you really expect this to have good FC?
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OMV - the lower I pay, the happier I am.�Don't think�so far on the resale value - think�of depreciation, its a big factor when pple buy 2nd hand cars. I don't care what omv I have, as long as its the right depreciation I will buy..
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congrats on your booking! Black edition also means your car is black? What is the effective price for black edition? This coming wed Coe bidding right?

thanks ! black edition is top up 5K into an existing XT.

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The difference is you have�a strut bar and antiroll bars, additional DRL and some body kit. I booked the space grey one

discount quite standard - I got $3k off list price.

thanks ! black edition is top up 5K into an existing XT.

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The difference is you have�a strut bar and antiroll bars, additional DRL and some body kit. I booked the space grey one

discount quite standard - I got $3k off list price.

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Last time I ask they said $8k more..

thanks ! black edition is top up 5K into an existing XT.

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The difference is you have�a strut bar and antiroll bars, additional DRL and some body kit. I booked the space grey one

discount quite standard - I got $3k off list price.

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Can PM me your final price after discount and any freebies you get.

now the price is $5k leh. so mine is list price +5 -3.

now the price is $5k leh. so mine is list price +5 -3.

Black Edition started at 8K more which is not worth it that time cos I could do the same outside for less.

Along the way they realise its unpopular due to the price and reduce to 5k. The thing I like about the BE is the interior with suede leather, c.f. Panels and sti trims. These stuff you can't do outside..

I see - I didn't think much before deciding. I remember my first car Latio where I opt for the 4at and not cvt all for 3 k less, and I regret for 4 years.

This one 5k plus u also have also performance related add ons.

If it's a merc or bmw , the AMG kit or the M sports will set u back 15 - 20k. Thanks for letting me know.

I didn't get much freebies, straight forward sale. Just standard solar film n reverse sensor.

last dun have additional drl n sti rims.

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Last time I ask they said $8k more..

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Can PM me your final price after discount and any freebies you get.

Bro pocus, any meet up for foresters?

Hey bro, sorry I missed your post earlier. Can PM me or Pioneer?

For those interested to join the Forester whatsapp group, can let us know via PM.

It a fast moving chat group useful for current owners and would-be owners alike.

A meet up was mention but not finalized yet though. Stay tuned.

thanks ! black edition is top up 5K into an existing XT.
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The difference is you have�a strut bar and antiroll bars, additional DRL and some body kit. I booked the space grey one
discount quite standard - I got $3k off list price.

Nice! Hope both of us will get the car this Wednesday!

Edited by Chucky2007, 21 September 2015 - 07:55 AM.

Finally I booked a Silver FXT this saturday..... :) Standard deal with standard freebies....

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Was told new batch of cars just arrived.....� popular color like white is still available, but i went for Silver instead...� Easier to maintain, as i work in Tuas.. car gets dirty very fast....

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Car should deliver in 3 weeks time :)

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Black Edition started at 8K more which is not worth it that time cos I could do the same outside for less.

Along the way they realise its unpopular due to the price and reduce to 5k. The thing I like about the BE is the interior with suede leather, c.f. Panels and sti trims. These stuff you can't do outside..

Can advise where you guys get the body kit from outside?
Also the STI accessories?

The leather I believe u can customise it outside at around a starting price of 800sgd?

Finally I booked a Silver FXT this saturday..... :) Standard deal with standard freebies....
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Was told new batch of cars just arrived.....� popular color like white is still available, but i went for Silver instead...� Easier to maintain, as i work in Tuas.. car gets dirty very fast....
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Car should deliver in 3 weeks time :)
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Congrats!

Spotting more and more new foresters on the road these days. Just this morn saw 5-6 on the way to work. :)

Just booked a Forester 2.0i for 117.8k 6 bids non guarantee. No freebies except a floor mat... Wondering how bad is the servicing at MI? If its so bad rather go to my usual workshop outside. Also hope COE will drop a bit on Wed, else maybe gotta wait, suspect AD will play a bit on coe

Does Premium version also have electric tailgate?

Does Premium version also have electric tailgate?

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Nope, only the XT version has the electric tailgate�

Does Premium version also have electric tailgate?

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I'm afraid, no.� I last checked in early Aug '15.

Congrats!

Spotting more and more new foresters on the road these days. Just this morn saw 5-6 on the way to work. :)

soon it will be the Altis of SUV..

soon it will be the Altis of SUV..

That award goes to Vezel.

soon it will be the Altis of SUV..

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Don't worry, that belong to the Vezel & Harrier� :secret-laugh:

That award goes to Vezel.

Ditto. Vezel for the win!

Imho, Forester quite is quite a niche segment. :)

Hi,

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Does anyone know if MI will bring in eyesight (currently version 3) feature for its series?

Why do we always get a strip down version of what other countries get? I know it boils down to cost but they can at least make it an optional addon. In the past, simple technology like 6 airbags and stability control were standard and Singapore only get it as standard in recent years. I feel the government should make it mandatory for every car. Cost may be higher though.

What are the performance add on? I thought it is all just cosmetics enhancement?

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I see - I didn't think much before deciding. I remember my first car Latio where I opt for the 4at and not cvt all for 3 k less, and I regret for 4 years.

This one 5k plus u also have also performance related add ons.

If it's a merc or bmw , the AMG kit or the M sports will set u back 15 - 20k. Thanks for letting me know.

I didn't get much freebies, straight forward sale. Just standard solar film n reverse sensor.

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Got 1 strut bar top and 2 anti roll bar bottom front and back. I consider these performance add on :)

Got 1 strut bar top and 2 anti roll bar bottom front and back. I consider these performance add on :)

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These items should improve the handling of the XT.

Hey bro, sorry I missed your post earlier. Can PM me or Pioneer?

For those interested to join the Forester whatsapp group, can let us know via PM.

It a fast moving chat group useful for current owners and would-be owners alike.

A meet up was mention but not finalized yet though. Stay tuned.

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If got Forester meetup I might want to attend to check out how you guys are doing! I been seeing quite a few of them last few weeks.

Hi,

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Does anyone know if MI will bring in eyesight (currently version 3) feature for its series?

Why do we always get a strip down version of what other countries get? I know it boils down to cost but they can at least make it an optional addon. In the past, simple technology like 6 airbags and stability control were standard and Singapore only get it as standard in recent years. I feel the government should make it mandatory for every car. Cost may be higher though.

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I agree.� I have been reading up reviews of certain car models over past months and realized the local ADs here (not sure about the PIs) often bring the "lesser" specs/features models.� Disappointing:(

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I reckon it is just simple mathematics.� No thanks to the COE premiums.� It's already so expensive to buy a car in Singapore with the COE in place.� So the ADs will need to juggle with this and the profit margins of their sales.� How best can an AD get its cars sold, and to sell it at a higher�profit.� So one way is not to bring in high specs/features models for price competitiveness.

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Just my personal observation.

Got something that is after market but it serves as a warning. Doesn't control the brakes on car.�

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May be good in its own way.

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Hi, interested in Forester 2.0 premium. Any SE to recommend?

If anyone else interested, we can combine in bulk purchase:))

Got something that is after market but it serves as a warning. Doesn't control the brakes on car.�
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I already have this installed in my car. Its called "my wife"

I already have this installed in my car. Its called "my wife"

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Aiyah, I have one installed too!�

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I already have this installed in my car. Its called "my wife"

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Acutally, for subaru forester, its already quite top end model, eqivalent to the us touring without the eyesight option.
Same for Mitsubishi outlander, also the premium without the equivalent eyesight stuffs.

Think to bring in with eyesight, its the tax on the addon stuffs that will increase the price by a lot.

I think lta should not tax on safefty addon stuffs.

If not wrong, by putting in eyesight, price might be another 20k more. But then again, they can also add one more model like xt premium that has eyesight.

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I agree.� I have been reading up reviews of certain car models over past months and realized the local ADs here (not sure about the PIs) often bring the "lesser" specs/features models.� Disappointing:(
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I reckon it is just simple mathematics.� No thanks to the COE premiums.� It's already so expensive to buy a car in Singapore with the COE in place.� So the ADs will need to juggle with this and the profit margins of their sales.� How best can an AD get its cars sold, and to sell it at a higher�profit.� So one way is not to bring in high specs/features models for price competitiveness.
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Just my personal observation.

I asked about eyesight, they say it's management decision not to bring in, avoid potential customer complaints if malfunction

It's kinda strange that more competition among the brands they still provide less features. But at least MI did put in the airbags and the traction control. Not like some jap AD only 2 air bags n no traction control.

It is their prerogative and dealing with inaccurate/accident as a result of eyesight can be difficult to manage especially lawsuit.

Then, they are choosing the easy way and not upholding the leading edge research from subaru ...

sad!!

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I asked about eyesight, they say it's management decision not to bring in, avoid potential customer complaints if malfunction

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It is their prerogative and dealing with inaccurate/accident as a result of eyesight can be difficult to manage especially lawsuit.
Then, they are choosing the easy way and not upholding the leading edge research from subaru ...
sad!!
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i guess they also want to place the omv below s$20k so if add eyesight option in, with additional omv of $3-4k, plus additional ARF because overall omv moves up, they would have to sell the car above $140-150k

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Forester XT with AWD cannot scramble its way around curves under power meh?? Should be do-able within limits, even though the body roll might be scary.�

I too prefer to measure the other driver's "hell-driver" level by the way he/she takes a curve/expressway exit/flyover ramp at speed --- straightline speeding and tailgating means nothing. Actually, a SUV's higher driving position makes it easier for me to anticipate traffic up ahead --- better for overtaking.

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Me driving a 2007 Murano and waiting for COE levels to come down before booking a FXT.

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Ian.....just get it lah. I am driving one myself. hahaha.

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