mycarforum: 2015 Forester 2.0 part 5

I believe the major reason�power is not their top priority,�

but they still want to enjoy reputed Subaru AWD, Boxer engine with 10k cheaper,

honestly speaking, FXT attracted me by its�power/AWD/Boxer engine and 5 stars safety rating,

otherwise I will choose Vezel, QQ, Xtrail, Harrier,�which have much better interior and equipments

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This is the exact reason i booked FXT.

The same reasons why I bought the XT too.� The power must be there when I need it.� Furthermore, price wise acceptable.

Let see how many kaki here (including potential new owners) starting with me;

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1) Whitemondeo/ Satin White Pearl/ 2014 - XT�

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Here we go again!

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List of Forester Owners

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1) Whitemondeo/ Satin White Pearl/ 2014 - XT

2) cboonh/ Satin White Pearl/ XT (still waiting for ride)

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Here we go again!

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List of Forester Owners

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1) Whitemondeo/ Satin White Pearl/ 2014 - XT

2) cboonh/ Satin White Pearl/ XT (still waiting for ride)

3) Kingfisher/Dark Metallic Grey/Premium (collecting in early Aug)

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More importantly, better FC.
Want a smoothly ride and is less firm and bumpy.
Don't need X-mode function.
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I think the option�that saved the 2.0i is having most options as the XT, esp the sunroof. So it's only down to whether you need such powerful engine.
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It's akin to Swift and Swift Sport.
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Nice move there Subaru.
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Thanks for sharing, really appreciate that!
But I thought it is AWD and heavy body contributes more on FC, not turbo especially in SG road.

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Posted Today, 03:02 PM

Cboonh, on 30 Jul 2015 - 2:31 PM, said:

Here we go again!

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List of Forester Owners

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1) Whitemondeo/ Satin White Pearl/ 2014 - XT

2) cboonh/ Satin White Pearl/ XT (still waiting for ride)

3) Kingfisher/Dark Metallic Grey/Premium (collecting in early Aug)

4) Laurence Lau/Ice Silver Metalic/XT (going for 2nd bidding 5th Aug)

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Sharing some links found online for the forester. For folks who can't wait to get their drive (like me!), or to keep a copy for future reference. :)

Owner's Manual 2016 Forester (note that this is for the canadian/us LHD models, there's other Subaru models too, their 2016 model should be MY15 models)
http://m.subaru.ca/W...WebPageID=16400

2015 Forester eBrochure
http://www.subaru-gl...rester/15my/KE/

List of Forester Owners

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1) Whitemondeo/ Satin White Pearl/ 2014 - XT

2) cboonh/ Satin White Pearl/ XT (still waiting for ride)

3) Kingfisher/Dark Metallic Grey/Premium (collecting in early Aug)

4) Laurence Lau/Ice Silver Metalic/XT (going for 2nd bidding 5th Aug)

5) Dtsw/Bronze/2015 XT

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Hey Pocus, understand that you have a quote of about 1.3k for the inhouse AIG insurance. Do you know what the excess is?�

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I asked the SE and he quoted me 1.4k excess which is quite shocking to me. Not sure if this is normal.

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TIA.

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not sure anyone responded to your query.

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"excess" mean when you do a own claim, you need to fork out say, $1.4k before any repair can be made.

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if your repair amount to 10k, you need to fork out 1.4k and the rest the insurance will take care of it.

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If your repair cost like bumper scratch is 500, it make no sense to self claim and further more, 30% of NCD will be written off once you claim it.

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not sure anyone responded to your query.
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"excess" mean when you do a own claim, you need to fork out say, $1.4k before any repair can be made.
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if your repair amount to 10k, you need to fork out 1.4k and the rest the insurance will take care of it. We
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If your repair cost like bumper scratch is 500, it make no sense to self claim and further more, 30% of NCD will be written off once you claim it.

Thanks for responding!

Exactly. So basically the higher your excess,the higher your liability in the event of an accident caused by oneself. My understanding is that some of us adjust the excess amount to our own comfort level. Usually when excess goes up, premium comes down, vice versa.

I'm asking how come given such a high excess value, the premium is still so high. Not sure if the excess quoted (not premium) given my the SE is salah.

So I wanted to find out from the bros here who booked if the excess quoted by the in-house AIG insurance is similar..

Edited by Cboonh, 30 July 2015 - 04:37 PM.

Thanks for responding!

Exactly. So basically the higher your excess,the higher your liability in the event of an accident caused by oneself. My understanding is that some of us adjust the excess amount to our own comfort level. Usually when excess goes up, premium comes down, vice versa.

I'm asking how come given such a high excess value, the premium is still so high. Not sure if the excess quoted (not premium) given my the SE is salah.

So I wanted to find out from the bros here who booked if the excess quoted by the in-house AIG insurance is similar..

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highlighted in red is not relevant.

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high excess is related to premium. There are people that gamble on lower premium but with high excess.

List of Forester Owners

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1) Whitemondeo/ Satin White Pearl/ 2014 - XT

2) cboonh/ Satin White Pearl/ XT (still waiting for ride)

3) Kingfisher/Dark Metallic Grey/Premium (collecting in early Aug)

4) Laurence Lau/Ice Silver Metalic/XT (going for 2nd bidding 5th Aug)

5) Dtsw/Bronze/2015 XT

6) DomiNome / Satin White Pearl / XT (going 1st bid 5th Aug)

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highlighted in red is not relevant.

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high excess is related to premium. There are people that gamble on lower premium but with high excess.

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What i mean by liability is the excess we have to pay in the event of self-claim. Anyway, i understand what you are trying to say, let's not debate on the technicalities.

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Back on the excess. So high excess rightly leads to lower insurance yearly premium. For my case, it feels like a double whammy leh, high premium and high excess.� [shocked] � �

Thanks for responding!

Exactly. So basically the higher your excess,the higher your liability in the event of an accident caused by oneself. My understanding is that some of us adjust the excess amount to our own comfort level. Usually when excess goes up, premium comes down, vice versa.

I'm asking how come given such a high excess value, the premium is still so high. Not sure if the excess quoted (not premium) given my the SE is salah.

So I wanted to find out from the bros here who booked if the excess quoted by the in-house AIG insurance is similar..

Yes, my case same as you, premium 1.4k, excess also 1.4k from AIG,

next year I switched to other company,

Yes, my case same as you, premium 1.4k, excess also 1.4k from AIG,

next year I switched to other company,

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Ah okay, thanks for confirming!

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If I do not want to take up the inhouse AIG insurance, understand that there's a $300 increase in car price.

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I may be exploring that option. look see look see...

Hi All,
Glad to see many FXT owner here. I am just about to shoot for FXT last Tuesday but was hold back to monitor the COE. Current car left 20 months.
Saw most of you chose white color which I am still in dilemma btw black white or even silver, quite limited choices though....

Hi All,
Glad to see many FXT owner here. I am just about to shoot for FXT last Tuesday but was hold back to monitor the COE. Current car left 20 months.
Saw most of you chose white color which I am still in dilemma btw black white or even silver, quite limited choices though....

During my test drive, saw the pearl white in Leng Kee showroom was very nice.

Did you guys buy with guarantee or non-guarantee COE?

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What is your reason?

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I'm in dilemma on which to choose...the difference is $2k.

During my test drive, saw the pearl white in Leng Kee showroom was very nice.

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The pearl white is a beauty ! � However, it needs tender loving care, must be cleaned regularly, else it is an outstanding color ! �

Pardon me but I include those who mentioned they are owners/would-be owners�from this thread in the list.

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List of Forester Owners

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1) Whitemondeo/ Satin White Pearl/ 2014 - XT

2) cboonh/ Satin White Pearl/ XT (still waiting for ride)

3) Kingfisher/Dark Metallic Grey/Premium (collecting in early Aug)

4) Laurence Lau/Ice Silver Metalic/XT (going for 2nd bidding 5th Aug)

5) Dtsw/Bronze/2015 XT

6) DomiNome / Satin White Pearl / XT (going 1st bid 5th Aug)

7) Quantum / ??? / XT

8) Airtrek_newbie /??? / Premium

9) db597 / ??? / XT

10) nckeong / ??? /XT

11) etoh77 / ??? / Premium

12 ) Aideyin / ??? / Premium

13) engineoperator / ??? / XT

14) ctleo / ??? / XT

15) Frakymjaykay / ??? / XT

16) subarudreamer / ??? /��XT

17) Pocus / Silver / XT

Edited by Pocus, 30 July 2015 - 11:35 PM.

During my test drive, saw the pearl white in Leng Kee showroom was very nice.

So are you choosing white?

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The pearl white is a beauty ! � However, it needs tender loving care, must be cleaned regularly, else it is an outstanding color ! �

Even though I have not make up my mind which color, In my opinion white is easier to take care as not obvious for scratches. Dust can be seen on black too.
The only color I feel striking is white the rest too dull compare to the color other brand has to offer...too bad...

So are you choosing white?

Even though I have not make up my mind which color, In my opinion white is easier to take care as not obvious for scratches. Dust can be seen on black too.
The only color I feel striking is white the rest too dull compare to the color other brand has to offer...too bad...

Ops, no offense to the rest...

Sharing some links found online for the forester. For folks who can't wait to get their drive (like me!), or to keep a copy for future reference. :)

Owner's Manual 2016 Forester (note that this is for the canadian/us LHD models, there's other Subaru models too, their 2016 model should be MY15 models)
http://m.subaru.ca/W...WebPageID=16400

2015 Forester eBrochure
http://www.subaru-gl...rester/15my/KE/

Just take note not everything may be relevant to our rides.

For instance, I was told we do not have passenger seatbelt detention. We also do not have childseat detection for front passenger seat so that it will disable the airbag.

Bummer for me. I always want to put my childseat in front.

Chose white as it's the one that caught me and my wife's attention when we entered the showroom.

Near my office, there's dark grey, black, red and blue (all foresters) but no whites!�

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Other reasons:

CO insisted on this colour though i'm the one that does the cleaning and maintenance
White is slightly cooler in the sun
Good visibility to other road users in the dark
Not a "loud" colour
Current ride is black, want a change
It looks good on forester, even better with a little cosmetic upgrade

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BUT

It turns yellowish over time�
Its hard to bring out the colour's depth even with very good detailing(waxing/polishing) when compared to a black/dark car
Common on the road

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Edited by DomiNome, 31 July 2015 - 12:18 AM.

Sharing some links found online for the forester. For folks who can't wait to get their drive (like me!), or to keep a copy for future reference. :)

Owner's Manual 2016 Forester (note that this is for the canadian/us LHD models, there's other Subaru models too, their 2016 model should be MY15 models)
http://m.subaru.ca/W...WebPageID=16400

2015 Forester eBrochure
http://www.subaru-gl...rester/15my/KE/

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Thanks for this! A bit too late for me, digested the US 2013 version for knowledge� :ouch-it-hurts: ...

Chose white as it's the one that caught me and my wife's attention when we entered the showroom.
Near my office, there's dark grey, black, red and blue (all foresters) but no whites!�
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Other reasons:
CO insisted on this colour though i'm the one that does the cleaning and maintenance
White is slightly cooler in the sun
Good visibility to other road users in the dark
Not a "loud" colour
Current ride is black, want a change
It looks good on forester, even better with a little cosmetic upgrade
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BUT
It turns yellowish over time�
Its hard to bring out the colour's depth even with very good detailing(waxing/polishing) when compared to a black/dark car
Common on the road
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Agree with you, good and bad...
Wondering what kind of mod can be done on the exterial without too Beng...

So are you choosing white?

Even though I have not make up my mind which color, In my opinion white is easier to take care as not obvious for scratches. Dust can be seen on black too.
The only color I feel striking is white the rest too dull compare to the color other brand has to offer...too bad...

Ops, no offense to the rest...

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I have not book yet.

Current car COE left about 11mth, still got time to wait a while...

Chose white as it's the one that caught me and my wife's attention when we entered the showroom.

Near my office, there's dark grey, black, red and blue (all foresters) but no whites!�

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Other reasons:

CO insisted on this colour though i'm the one that does the cleaning and maintenance

White is slightly cooler in the sun

Good visibility to other road users in the dark

Not a "loud" colour

Current ride is black, want a change

It looks good on forester, even better with a little cosmetic upgrade

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BUT

It turns yellowish over time�

Its hard to bring out the colour's depth even with very good detailing(waxing/polishing) when compared to a black/dark car

Common on the road

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Don't worry it turning yellowish over time. �My first white car (Mondeo) in 2003 lasted 5 years without turning yellowish. �However, many commented my Euro R look yellowish within the first year of ownership.�

List of Forester Owners

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1) Whitemondeo/ Satin White Pearl/ 2014 - XT

2) cboonh/ Satin White Pearl/ XT (still waiting for ride)

3) Kingfisher/Dark Metallic Grey/Premium (collecting in early Aug)

4) Laurence Lau/Ice Silver Metalic/XT (going for 2nd bidding 5th Aug)

5) Dtsw/Bronze/2015 XT

6) DomiNome / Satin White Pearl / XT (going 1st bid 5th Aug)

7) Quantum / Silver / 2014 - XT

8) Airtrek_newbie /??? / Premium

9) db597 / ??? / XT

10) nckeong / ??? /XT

11) etoh77 / ??? / Premium

12 ) Aideyin / ??? / Premium

13) engineoperator / ??? / XT

14) ctleo / ??? / XT

15) Frakymjaykay / ??? / XT

16) subarudreamer / ??? /��XT

17) Pocus / Silver / XT

i seldom wash car ..so silver for me ..if i buy

Joining the party...2015 Forester Premium� crystal pearl white.

Looking to sign on the dotted line too.

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Current car still got 9 more months to go.�

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Aiming at the XT too.�

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CO thinks the car too powerful and prefers a Qashqai over the FXT.�

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Test driven the 2.0i many months ago and already find it powerful already. But for 8k more and 100BHP more.. Easy choice.�

Signed the dotted line for FXT pearl white too.

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Looks like there will be a lot of pearl white Forester on the road� [;)]

Chose white as it's the one that caught me and my wife's attention when we entered the showroom.

Near my office, there's dark grey, black, red and blue (all foresters) but no whites!�

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Other reasons:

CO insisted on this colour though i'm the one that does the cleaning and maintenance

White is slightly cooler in the sun

Good visibility to other road users in the dark

Not a "loud" colour

Current ride is black, want a change

It looks good on forester, even better with a little cosmetic upgrade

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BUT

It turns yellowish over time�

Its hard to bring out the colour's depth even with very good detailing(waxing/polishing) when compared to a black/dark car

Common on the road

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Great list~ �I think white looks great on the forester too. *biased view* :)

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Before going down to the showroom, my missus and I actually thought the red looked quite good. This is based on the 360 view on subaru's website. After going down and seeing the panel colour display, we realised it was a tad too dark for our liking. In the end we chose white.�

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Currently driving a pearl white now (some say "off-white" lol ). Not an expert in car detailing, but it's not too difficult to maintain i must say. Modern paint work on cars are quite good. It can really take some abuse and not degrade too bad. Easy to restore also.

Looking to sign on the dotted line too.

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Current car still got 9 more months to go.�

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Aiming at the XT too.�

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CO thinks the car too powerful and prefers a Qashqai over the FXT.�

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Test driven the 2.0i many months ago and already find it powerful already. But for 8k more and 100BHP more.. Easy choice.�

if you are not so interesting to power, select FXT is waste

indeed Qashqai is better option, with higher OMV, FWD got much better FC, embedded GPS, 19" Sport rim,

Is the interior only available in black for both models?

Looking to sign on the dotted line too.

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Current car still got 9 more months to go.�

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Aiming at the XT too.�

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CO thinks the car too powerful and prefers a Qashqai over the FXT.�

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Test driven the 2.0i many months ago and already find it powerful already. But for 8k more and 100BHP more.. Easy choice.�

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Just ask her to drive on the i mode..

Looking to sign on the dotted line too.

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Current car still got 9 more months to go.�

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Aiming at the XT too.�

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CO thinks the car too powerful and prefers a Qashqai over the FXT.�

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Test driven the 2.0i many months ago and already find it powerful already. But for 8k more and 100BHP more.. Easy choice.�

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LOL, I feel that complaining a car too powerful is like complaining one have too much money.

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She don't have to floor the pedal to use all the power, in fact all she now have to do is to tap it lightly.�Let the�CVT do it job, the car will still move smoothly like a normal car.

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Remember this:

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In terms of power, the XT can drive like a Qashqai, but a Qashqai can never drive like an XT.

Edited by Pocus, 31 July 2015 - 02:06 PM.

In Japan the satin white paint is an optional extra. I think because it requires 1 layer more than the other colours. Here is in Singapore it is the same price ;)

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Downside is when it rains the car gets dirty - need a bit more looking after than colours like silver. Also, I find the metal body is easy to clean, but the the white bumper is harder to wash the dirt off. Not very noticable, but if you look closely the grey stains from the rain tend to soak in.

i seldom wash car ..so silver for me ..if i buy

me too, my previous car was pearl white, ended up�at yellowish �

List of Forester Owners

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1) Whitemondeo/ Satin White Pearl/ 2014 - XT

2) cboonh/ Satin White Pearl/ XT (still waiting for ride)

3) Kingfisher/Dark Metallic Grey/Premium (collecting in early Aug)

4) Laurence Lau/Ice Silver Metalic/XT (going for 2nd bidding 5th Aug)

5) Dtsw/Bronze/2015 XT

6) DomiNome / Satin White Pearl / XT (going 1st bid 5th Aug)

7) Quantum / Silver / 2014 - XT

8) Airtrek_newbie /??? / Premium

9) db597 / ??? / XT

10) nckeong / ??? /XT

11) etoh77 / ??? / Premium

12 ) Aideyin / ??? / Premium

13) engineoperator / ??? / XT

14) ctleo / ??? / XT

15) Frakymjaykay / RED / XT

16) subarudreamer / ??? /��XT

17) Pocus / Silver / XT

Looking to sign on the dotted line too.

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Current car still got 9 more months to go.�

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Aiming at the XT too.�

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CO thinks the car too powerful and prefers a Qashqai over the FXT.�

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Test driven the 2.0i many months ago and already find it powerful already. But for 8k more and 100BHP more.. Easy choice.�

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this difference in price of 8k is very artificial because 2.0na ran OOS. It used to be 13k-18k difference until the latest pricelist. I believe this price difference will be restored once stock rolls in

Just collected my ride today which is dark grey metallic premium. All is well, just need some time to accustom to the new car from my previous Airwave. And gonna hoot on 4d this wkd! Huat ah!!!

Guys, anyone know what is STI model? The front grill looks nice, any way to modify the FXT into this?

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Edited by cacho, 31 July 2015 - 10:32 PM.

Guys, anyone know what is STI model? The front grill looks nice, any way to modify the FXT into this?

Sexually Transmitted Infection Forester. Sports grille about 600 SGD, you can vinyl wrap or plasti diip to achieve the same effect for < $100.

Edited by DomiNome, 31 July 2015 - 11:18 PM.

Sexually Transmitted Infection Forester. Sports grille about 600 SGD, you can vinyl wrap or plasti diip to achieve the same effect for < $100.

Thanks. How to include the red skirting line at the edge of the grill? Any wrapping expert workshop in Singapore or Malaysia?

Thanks. How to include the red skirting line at the edge of the grill? Any wrapping expert workshop in Singapore or Malaysia?

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You can start with�http://www.sgcarmart...ting.php?CAT=32

The wrappers will know how to include the red pinstripe.

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You can start with�http://www.sgcarmart...ting.php?CAT=32
The wrappers will know how to include the red pinstripe.

Thanks bro!

Just collected my ride today which is dark grey metallic premium. All is well, just need some time to accustom to the new car from my previous Airwave. And gonna hoot on 4d this wkd! Huat ah!!!

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Congrats bro! Enjoy the ride and wish you huat huat!� [bounce2] � �

Guys, anyone know what is STI model? The front grill looks nice, any way to modify the FXT into this?

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Check out this vid. This guy added quite a number of things onto his ride to make it more STI-like and JDM-ish.

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Also there's this subaru forester forum (subaruforester.org), it's a forum dedicated to forester and has an international community. Truckloads full of poisons/ideas that you can do to the car in there. Beware! Having said there, a lot of technical sharing and diy tips too.

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Have fun!

Those who test-drive the Forester XT; how is the actual econ? 9km/l?

Does it require 98 RON or 95 RON?

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Then also, I been wondering, Subaru insurance usually higher, or is this a false info I've been given?

Guys, anyone know what is STI model? The front grill looks nice, any way to modify the FXT into this?

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Now MotorImage offers the so-called "Black-Edition" FXT for $5k extra. Has this same grille and some more STI garnishes like a rear under-diffuser, carbon interior trim and alcantara+leather STI badged seats from the factory.

Those who test-drive the Forester XT; how is the actual econ? 9km/l?

Does it require 98 RON or 95 RON?

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Then also, I been wondering, Subaru insurance usually higher, or is this a false info I've been given?

RON 95 can.

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insurance I think only the WRX and STI will have higher insurance, it's already proven that Forester owner's insurance are within normal range.

Insurance premium the norm but the excess is higher right?

RON 95 can.

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insurance I think only the WRX and STI will have higher insurance, it's already proven that Forester owner's insurance are within normal range.

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Whew. False alarm then. Because an extra 10�/?, adds up to maybe $5 extra if i always pump at half-tank, so it's $5/week, $20/month, adds up...!!!!

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Other thing I'm wondering about... this car, got puddle lamps, footwell lighting/ambience lighting? What about the rear sensors, does it show you on a display, or can view camera only?

When I ask them can install front sensors, they told me can if top up, but when I ask them how can I tell whether it's front or rear beeping, they say the car will show on the MFD.

Then also ...the headlamps, I know the mainbeam are HID xenon reflectors, but when I went to look up, it seems the high-beam are white-temperature halogen bulbs. Anyone can confirm it's not a full bi-xenon cluster?

Insurance premium the norm but the excess is higher right?

Only if you take up the in house insurance plan. Checked with AIG, the excess for this particular model is higher (1.4k). I think Pocus pointed out before that AIG offers 'new for old' replacement in the event if the car is totaled. Probably one of the reasons..

I've asked for a few quotes from other insurers, quotes are lower (900-1.3k), and the excess is normal range. ($0-600).. AIG more branded lo.

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Check out this vid. This guy added quite a number of things onto his ride to make it more STI-like and JDM-ish.
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Also there's this subaru forester forum (subaruforester.org), it's a forum dedicated to forester and has an international community. Truckloads full of poisons/ideas that you can do to the car in there. Beware! Having said there, a lot of technical sharing and diy tips too.
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Have fun!

Can't view the video from my handphone or tablet. Not sure why. Do you have the link?

Those who test-drive the Forester XT; how is the actual econ? 9km/l?
Does it require 98 RON or 95 RON?
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Then also, I been wondering, Subaru insurance usually higher, or is this a false info I've been given?

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Now MotorImage offers the so-called "Black-Edition" FXT for $5k extra. Has this same grille and some more STI garnishes like a rear under-diffuser, carbon interior trim and alcantara+leather STI badged seats from the factory.

The last roUnd like two weeks back I saw the black edition model in MI on silver body still selling at 9k extra which doesn't feel worth it.

List of Forester Owners

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1) Whitemondeo/ Satin White Pearl/ 2014 - XT

2) cboonh/ Satin White Pearl/ XT (still waiting for ride)

3) Kingfisher/Dark Metallic Grey/Premium (collecting in early Aug)

4) Laurence Lau/Ice Silver Metalic/XT (going for 2nd bidding 5th Aug)

5) Dtsw/Bronze/2015 XT

6) DomiNome / Satin White Pearl / XT (going 1st bid 5th Aug)

7) Quantum / Silver / 2014 - XT

8) Airtrek_newbie /??? / Premium

9) db597 / ??? / XT

10) nckeong / ??? /XT

11) etoh77 / ??? / Premium

12 ) Aideyin / ??? / Premium

13) engineoperator / ??? / XT

14) ctleo / ??? / XT

15) Frakymjaykay / ??? / XT

16) subarudreamer / ??? /��XT

17) Pocus / Silver / XT

18) Koolman1968 / Dark Metallic Grey / 22 Jul 2015 XT

Hello Bros, just added myself to the list. Have been following this Forester discussion for a while and found the sharing very educational and interesting. Hope to contribute my inputs soon.

Can any bros share pic of how/where front and rear blackvue installed in FXT look? Thanks

Satin white pearl is popular, I see.

I'm wondering... does the FXT have any interior ambience lighting or puddle lamps (under the exterior mirrors)? I can't seem to find concrete info on this.

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Then also, alamak, poison makes me want to replace the reflector main-beams.

The latest Forester catalog named the white color as Crystal White Pearl, NOT Satin White Pearl.

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Are they the same?

The latest Forester catalog named the white color as Crystal White Pearl, NOT Satin White Pearl.
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Are they the same?

Satin white is more whitish, Crystal white is more metallic.

Imho Crystal white is less proned to yellowing due. From far Crystal white will look darker

Edited by Pocus, 02 August 2015 - 01:19 AM.

Other thing I'm wondering about... this car, got puddle lamps, footwell lighting/ambience lighting? What about the rear sensors, does it show you on a display, or can view camera only?
When I ask them can install front sensors, they told me can if top up, but when I ask them how can I tell whether it's front or rear beeping, they say the car will show on the MFD.

Then also ...the headlamps, I know the mainbeam are HID xenon reflectors, but when I went to look up, it seems the high-beam are white-temperature halogen bulbs. Anyone can confirm it's not a full bi-xenon cluster?

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Someone got some answers for these questions of mine? Am really wondering.

Plus very curious to know it it has ambience/mood lighting and puddle lamps.

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Also, can someone kindly post photograph of the key fob? I saw a picture of it in the user manual (I like to read those when I am particularly interested in a car)... it looks like it came from 2002... :a-no:

Edited by 7hm, 02 August 2015 - 02:17 AM.

got 2 ambient lighting 1 at the storage holder at the roof, and another at the center console. there is no lighting at the footwell.

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Anyone feels that some how the break/ accelerator pedals are located too much to the left. Even s short drive made me quite uncomfortable. Left leg always being squeezed and cannot imagine drive in this manner for many hours to Genting.

got 2 ambient lighting 1 at the storage holder at the roof, and another at the center console. there is no lighting at the footwell.

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So it casts some light down on the cabin and shines on the storage tray? Blue color? What about door handles or puddle lamps?

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Footwell lighting... maybe can install aftermarket... ahh poison.

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The key looks nicer than the one I saw in the user manual. Maybe because it's last year's manual.

The one in the manual look like this [:|] :

[smash]

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...yeah, I took a look at 2016 (2015 to us) Forester manual ... the remote key looks like yours. Really leh, looks much nicer. At least up to date look. But eh, the emergency start up procedure looks a bit weird. Press the Start Button with the remote key itself.

Maybe it communicate with NFC... [idea]

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So it casts some light down on the cabin and shines on the storage tray? Blue color? What about door handles or puddle lamps?
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Footwell lighting... maybe can install aftermarket... ahh poison.
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The key looks nicer than the one I saw in the user manual. Maybe because it's last year's manual.
The one in the manual look like this :

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...yeah, I took a look at 2016 (2015 to us) Forester manual ... the remote key looks like yours. Really leh, looks much nicer. At least up to date look. But eh, the emergency start up procedure looks a bit weird. Press the Start Button with the remote key itself.
Maybe it communicate with NFC...

So it seems like you are getting the XT after considering so many car.
I think those footwell light,door light are not important. This can be be done outside. Important is a good engine, GB, safety spec......
I put this on my No 1 choice now but when times come still need CO to agreed.

So it seems like you are getting the XT after considering so many car.
I think those footwell light,door light are not important. This can be be done outside. Important is a good engine, GB, safety spec......
I put this on my No 1 choice now but when times come still need CO to agreed.

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not my personal no.1 still but the COs' no.1

[dead]

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not my personal no.1 still but the COs' no.1

Your no. 1 is the mondeo? I loved the mondeo too.

Edited by Pocus, 02 August 2015 - 04:34 PM.

Satin white is more whitish, Crystal white is more metallic.

Imho Crystal white is less proned to yellowing due. From far Crystal white will look darker

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Thanks Pocus for the explanation!

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So seems like both white are as good !!!

Anyone feels that some how the break/ accelerator pedals are located too much to the left. Even s short drive made me quite uncomfortable. Left leg always being squeezed and cannot imagine drive in this manner for many hours to Genting.

Hi, I got the same feeling too but don't see anyone talking about that so thought I am the weirdo... think the problem is in fact not much room for left leg cause the discomfort. Still thinking will it be the deal breaker for me as sometimes do need to travel long distance even though every other things meet my requirement.
Anyone has the same feeling and get use to it over time even for long distance travel?

got 2 ambient lighting 1 at the storage holder at the roof, and another at the center console. there is no lighting at the footwell.
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Don't forget the boot light

Hi, I got the same feeling too but don't see anyone talking about that so thought I am the weirdo... think the problem is in fact not much room for left leg cause the discomfort. Still thinking will it be the deal breaker for me as sometimes do need to travel long distance even though every other things meet my requirement.
Anyone has the same feeling and get use to it over time even for long distance travel?

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OKOK... [laugh] �at least I am not alone.�

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I am not a big size man but the discomfort feeling�on left leg is there and in fact quite serious.� I am not sure how AngMo with big size body can tahan this.� Personally I�foresee a problem for me to sit in that manner for more than 1 hour.� Maybe that is the problem with men sit with leg opened.

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OKOK... �at least I am not alone.�
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I am not a big size man but the discomfort feeling�on left leg is there and in fact quite serious.� I am not sure how AngMo with big size body can tahan this.� Personally I�foresee a problem for me to sit in that manner for more than 1 hour.� Maybe that is the problem with men sit with leg opened.

Have you triggered your order? What car in your list?

Have you triggered your order? What car in your list?

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My dream car is Lexus NX200 but too expensive.� Not yet trigger still got some time till 2017.

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I am looking at Subaru FXT, Toyota Harrier, Nissan Xtrail and Odyssey. �

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OKOK... �at least I am not alone.�

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I am not a big size man but the discomfort feeling�on left leg is there and in fact quite serious.� I am not sure how AngMo with big size body can tahan this.� Personally I�foresee a problem for me to sit in that manner for more than 1 hour.� Maybe that is the problem with men sit with leg opened.

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Move seat backwards some, left knee outwards and�fold�your left�inwards and�leave the foot under the right leg. Try that?�

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Long distance use cruise control. or use left leg

Can't view the video from my handphone or tablet. Not sure why. Do you have the link?

The last roUnd like two weeks back I saw the black edition model in MI on silver body still selling at 9k extra which doesn't feel worth it.

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Here's the link:�http://youtu.be/IcbF5bczjHI

Edited by Cboonh, 02 August 2015 - 11:25 PM.

Hi current owners of the FXT. I test drove the FXT and maybe I was going a little fast but I find the brakes to be a little soft. It doesn't bite very well when I try to brake.�

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Maybe bcos I'm coming from a conti car where the brakes tend to be effective. Or maybe it's just me.

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Any comments or feedback on this?

Just updated mine. Collecting tmr :)

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List of Forester Owners

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1) Whitemondeo/ Satin White Pearl/ 2014 - XT

2) cboonh/ Satin White Pearl/ XT (still waiting for ride)

3) Kingfisher/Dark Metallic Grey/Premium (collecting in early Aug)

4) Laurence Lau/Ice Silver Metalic/XT (going for 2nd bidding 5th Aug)

5) Dtsw/Bronze/2015 XT

6) DomiNome / Satin White Pearl / XT (going 1st bid 5th Aug)

7) Quantum / Silver / 2014 - XT

8) Airtrek_newbie / Silver�/ 2015 Premium ( collecting 4 Aug :) )

9) db597 / ??? / XT

10) nckeong / ??? /XT

11) etoh77 / ??? / Premium

12 ) Aideyin / ??? / Premium

13) engineoperator / ??? / XT

14) ctleo / ??? / XT

15) Frakymjaykay / RED / XT

16) subarudreamer / ??? /��XT

17) Pocus / Silver / XT

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1) Whitemondeo/ Satin White Pearl/ 2014 - XT

2) cboonh/ Satin White Pearl/ XT (still waiting for ride)

3) Kingfisher/Dark Metallic Grey/Premium (collecting in early Aug)

4) Laurence Lau/Ice Silver Metalic/XT (going for 2nd bidding 5th Aug)

5) Dtsw/Bronze/2015 XT

6) DomiNome / Satin White Pearl / XT (going 1st bid 5th Aug)

7) Quantum / Silver / 2014 - XT

8) Airtrek_newbie / Silver / 2015 Premium (collecting 4 Aug :) )

9) db597 / ??? / XT

10) nckeong / ??? /XT

11) etoh77 / ??? / Premium

12 ) Aideyin / ??? / Premium

13) engineoperator / ??? / XT

14) ctleo / ??? / XT

15) Frakymjaykay / RED / XT

16) subarudreamer / ??? /��XT

17) Pocus / Silver / XT�

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18) Picnic / Pearl White / XT�

Hi current owners of the FXT. I test drove the FXT and maybe I was going a little fast but I find the brakes to be a little soft. It doesn't bite very well when I try to brake.�

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Maybe bcos I'm coming from a conti car where the brakes tend to be effective. Or maybe it's just me.

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Any comments or feedback on this?

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Tested drove on Sun.

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yes...find that brakes not so responsive too.

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prolly can upgrade brake hose to improve it?

has anyone done that?

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Just FYI, i asked about the Black Ed, the SE gave me a $3000 discount.

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So it casts some light down on the cabin and shines on the storage tray? Blue color? What about door handles or puddle lamps?

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Footwell lighting... maybe can install aftermarket... ahh poison.

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The key looks nicer than the one I saw in the user manual. Maybe because it's last year's manual.

The one in the manual look like this :

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...yeah, I took a look at 2016 (2015 to us) Forester manual ... the remote key looks like yours. Really leh, looks much nicer. At least up to date look. But eh, the emergency start up procedure looks a bit weird. Press the Start Button with the remote key itself.

Maybe it communicate with NFC...

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Mine is almost the same as photo except without the red button.

Hi, I got the same feeling too but don't see anyone talking about that so thought I am the weirdo... think the problem is in fact not much room for left leg cause the discomfort. Still thinking will it be the deal breaker for me as sometimes do need to travel long distance even though every other things meet my requirement.
Anyone has the same feeling and get use to it over time even for long distance travel?

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I have no problem for the past 11months. �Perhaps, you may have to adjust the seating position to suit you comfortably.�

Hi current owners of the FXT. I test drove the FXT and maybe I was going a little fast but I find the brakes to be a little soft. It doesn't bite very well when I try to brake.�
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Maybe bcos I'm coming from a conti car where the brakes tend to be effective. Or maybe it's just me.
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Any comments or feedback on this?

Yes, compare to this class other brand SUVs, Forester's brake dics plate diameter too small, so its brake force weak relatively.

Yes, compare to this class other brand SUVs, Forester's brake dics plate diameter too small, so its brake force weak relatively.

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Now that you guys mentioned, I remember reading about complains of weak braking in the previous generation of Imprezas, especially the 2.0Rs.Many mitigate by replacing the stock rubber brake hose with steel braided hose.

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Not sure if current Foresters are still using rubber hose. My test drive felt ok and didn't brake hard to feel.

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Ok, another stuff to improve after I get my car.

Can i ask those that got yr fxt. How many coe bid then u get yr car?
Also the reverse camera does it come with those color line indicator? Also does the car come with reverse sensor?

The black edition look nice but abit too x for the add on? Also for those that buy, did u buy at the price of 128800? I try to bargain but did not manage to get a price down.

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Mine is almost the same as photo except without the red button.

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I have no problem for the past 11months. �Perhaps, you may have to adjust the seating position to suit you comfortably.�

Did you also face the same leg discomfort initially? What is your longest driving hours? Just like to know if time can change or get use to it eventual Ly.

Did you also face the same leg discomfort initially? What is your longest driving hours? Just like to know if time can change or get use to it eventual Ly.

Mon-Fri, Avg 1hours to work. (East to West). �Followed by 1 to 1.5 hours drive home and no discomfort on the paddles at all.�

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Tested drove on Sun.
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yes...find that brakes not so responsive too.
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prolly can upgrade brake hose to improve it?
has anyone done that?
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Just FYI, i asked about the Black Ed, the SE gave me a $3000 discount.

Funnily I found the brakes a little too grabby at low speeds. Seemed to stop well for me.

Can i ask those that got yr fxt. How many coe bid then u get yr car?
Also the reverse camera does it come with those color line indicator? Also does the car come with reverse sensor?
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Yes the reverse camera has the colour indicator lines and it has the reverse sensor.

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I didn't use the camera when parking after the test drive. I usually use the mirrors and listen to the beeping sound� [:)]

Now that you guys mentioned, I remember reading about complains of weak braking in the previous generation of Imprezas, especially the 2.0Rs.Many mitigate by replacing the stock rubber brake hose with steel braided hose.

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Not sure if current Foresters are still using rubber hose. My test drive felt ok and didn't brake hard to feel.

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Ok, another stuff to improve after I get my car.

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Up to now one of the main points for Forester from my fam is that it's tall, boxy, solid feeling... I have zero doubts it will survive a crash...

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But then, I'm one of those few people who never felt safer in a raised up car. Plus, taller cars with higher C.O.G. will be more likely to roll over.

Anyway, that also makes me want to ask you guys, you find the car roll around a lot or not much?

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But then now you guys mention the brakes seem weak... that's not reassuring.

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Up to now one of the main points for Forester from my fam is that it's tall, boxy, solid feeling... I have zero doubts it will survive a crash...
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But then, I'm one of those few people who never felt safer in a raised up car. Plus, taller cars with higher C.O.G. will be more likely to roll over.
Anyway, that also makes me want to ask you guys, you find the car roll around a lot or not much?
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But then now you guys mention the brakes seem weak... that's not reassuring.

Change the rear roll bar to something firmer. Quite a number of wowo owners do that for their xc90 and 60s.

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Up to now one of the main points for Forester from my fam is that it's tall, boxy, solid feeling... I have zero doubts it will survive a crash...
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But then, I'm one of those few people who never felt safer in a raised up car. Plus, taller cars with higher C.O.G. will be more likely to roll over.
Anyway, that also makes me want to ask you guys, you find the car roll around a lot or not much?
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But then now you guys mention the brakes seem weak... that's not reassuring.

Subaru famous boxer engine lower down COG, so not feeling roll around while cornering

Change the rear roll bar to something firmer. Quite a number of wowo owners do that for their xc90 and 60s.

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any recommendation?

The black edition is the addition of the following to the standard trim?

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- STI Front Under Spoiler

- STI Rear Under Spoiler

- STI Leather Gear Knob

- STI Tower Bar

- Front LED DRL

- Carbon Fiber Panel

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Seems a bit expensive to pay $5k, although some bros was given some discount...

It was 8k more for the black edition a few weeks ago when i booked my 2.0 premium.
Seems like its going at great discount now.

It was 8k more for the black edition a few weeks ago when i booked my 2.0 premium.
Seems like its going at great discount now.

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Yah. When I test drive the XT, ask about the black edition. Was told $8k more.

The black edition is the addition of the following to the standard trim?
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- STI Front Under Spoiler
- STI Rear Under Spoiler
- STI Leather Gear Knob
- STI Tower Bar
- Front LED DRL
- Carbon Fiber Panel
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Seems a bit expensive to pay $5k, although some bros was given some discount...

The seats had special trim too. Was $8k more 2 weeks back.

Forget the black edition.

More useful poison available by Cusco.

http://www.cusco.co....forester_s.html

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Take note of the following parts which I felt will help in handling without sacrificing comfort:

- 697 540 A

- 692 541 A (but too invasive to boot)

- 687 492 RS

- 677 492 RE

- 692 311 B20

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Total price should be cheaper than the BE but you get the effect.

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Current ride was on Cusco bars for 7 years, no complains!

Edited by Pocus, 04 August 2015 - 09:25 AM.

Forget the black edition.

More useful poison available by Cusco.

http://www.cusco.co....forester_s.html

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Take note of the following parts which I felt will help in handling without sacrificing comfort:

- 697 540 A

- 692 541 A (but too invasive to boot)

- 687 492 RS

- 677 492 RE

- 692 311 B20

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Total price should be cheaper than the BE but you get the effect.

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Current ride was on Cusco bars for 7 years, no complains!

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Nice share!

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I was reading up a little bit on the brake functionality upgrade. To improve braking performance there are a few things that came up repeatedly,

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1) Upgrade the brake assembly, i.e. disc, calipers, brake pads etc (obvious, but will burn a big hole in the pocket, maybe overkill?)

2) Changing the stock tires (mixed reviews on the stock bridgestone Dueler tires)�

3) Install a Master cylinder brace (reduces flex on the firewall when stepping on the brakes, giving you a surer feel)

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The last of the three option is probably the least expensive and it offers quite a noticeable improvement from what I've read,,, I will probably do more research on the brakes.

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Nice share!

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I was reading up a little bit on the brake functionality upgrade. To improve braking performance there are a few things that came up repeatedly,

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1) Upgrade the brake assembly, i.e. disc, calipers, brake pads etc (obvious, but will burn a big hole in the pocket, maybe overkill?)

2) Changing the stock tires (mixed reviews on the stock bridgestone Dueler tires)�

3) Install a Master cylinder brace (reduces flex on the firewall when stepping on the brakes, giving you a surer feel)

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The last of the three option is probably the least expensive and it offers quite a noticeable improvement from what I've read,,, I will probably do more research on the brakes.

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More posion. This one is useless one.

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Psst psst!! This HKS blow off valve (for our Forester)�is to disturb others and piss off the TPs. LOL

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Note:

For those who like to mod or watch initial D, you would have know most cars have a "codename"

eg. AE86, EG6, FD2R, ZC31A, etc.

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Our current Forester is the SJ series.

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Forester 2.0: SJ5

Forester XT: SJG

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The codes will be useful if your are sourcing for parts of ordering from stocklist in the futures. Hope it helps.

Forget the black edition.

More useful poison available by Cusco.

http://www.cusco.co....forester_s.html

�

Take note of the following parts which I felt will help in handling without sacrificing comfort:

- 697 540 A

- 692 541 A (but too invasive to boot)

- 687 492 RS

- 677 492 RE

- 692 311 B20

�

Total price should be cheaper than the BE but you get the effect.

�

Current ride was on Cusco bars for 7 years, no complains!

wah lan ehh

jin poisonus!!! I already have targeted few bars to get ...!

Edited by Lejx, 04 August 2015 - 02:02 PM.

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More posion. This one is useless one.
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Psst psst!! This HKS blow off valve (for our Forester)�is to disturb others and piss off the TPs. LOL

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Note:
For those who like to mod or watch initial D, you would have know most cars have a "codename"
eg. AE86, EG6, FD2R, ZC31A, etc.
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Our current Forester is the SJ series.
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Forester 2.0: SJ5
Forester XT: SJG
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The codes will be useful if your are sourcing for parts of ordering from stocklist in the futures. Hope it helps.

Psst Psst! Interesting! Totally no functional purpose?

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Nice share!
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I was reading up a little bit on the brake functionality upgrade. To improve braking performance there are a few things that came up repeatedly,
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1) Upgrade the brake assembly, i.e. disc, calipers, brake pads etc (obvious, but will burn a big hole in the pocket, maybe overkill?)
2) Changing the stock tires (mixed reviews on the stock bridgestone Dueler tires)�
3) Install a Master cylinder brace (reduces flex on the firewall when stepping on the brakes, giving you a surer feel)
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The last of the three option is probably the least expensive and it offers quite a noticeable improvement from what I've read,,, I will probably do more research on the brakes.

Sti brembo wil be best

Sti brembo wil be best

Yaaaa. Probably will end up with a big hole in the pocket too!

Yaaaa. Probably will end up with a big hole in the pocket too!

Bros, I checked with MI with regards to doing enhancements to my FXT and they told me that they will void the warranties on the car. I am seriously considering to enhance the brake system. Any bros have similar experience?

Forget the black edition.
More useful poison available by Cusco.
http://www.cusco.co....forester_s.html
�

Take note of the following parts which I felt will help in handling without sacrificing comfort:
- 697 540 A
- 692 541 A (but too invasive to boot)
- 687 492 RS
- 677 492 RE
- 692 311 B20
�
Total price should be cheaper than the BE but you get the effect.
�
Current ride was on Cusco bars for 7 years, no complains!

bro,thanks for sharing Cusco bars. are they available in SG? or got to buy online from Japan?

Anyone has an update about the MY2016 SG launching date? It was already launched in Australia.

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15:32 talks about braking..seems ok according to the reviewer. Acceleration is top notch, 0-60 mph (0-97km/h) in 6.46 seconds according to their testing. Dunno if it's the same for the sg version of the forester.. should be similar iirc.

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Found something interesting! Ever wonder what the feature 'Pin code access' is? Was curious and googled it.

Basically it allows you to lock the keys in the car and later access the car via a series of button presses (trunk button). Why do i want to do that? Previously always have to bring at least the key fob along if i wanna go swimming/jogging. With this feature, I can lock the keys in and unlock the cars without keys when I'm done! Quite a nifty feature!

From the brochure from subaru, the premium and xt both has this feature. Here's a video showing how it works, and how to program it. Enjoy!

Edited by Cboonh, 04 August 2015 - 11:53 PM.

Psst Psst! Interesting! Totally no functional purpose?

Only useful if you intend to boost your turbo to 1.5bar and above. It's suppose to vent gas from the compressor out to the atmosphere, preventing compressor surge.

Our stock dump valve is good enough for the job in stock condition.

bro,thanks for sharing Cusco bars. are they available in SG? or got to buy online from Japan?

There is a dealer here who deals cusco parts, but not sure if they Mark up the price alot. May explore buying online and shipping here instead but will research more once I get my ride.

Forester got any poisons for better fuel consumption anot

The discussions are getting exciting!

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I would agree the stock setup requires a tat more pedal distance before you can feel the bite. Nevertheless www.edmunds.com remarked that the FXT has one of the best braking distance in its class, following may not be apple to apple but gives a gauge:

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"Forester 2.0XT stopped from 60 mph in 119 feet, a good number for this class"
"CX-5 Grand Touring equipped with all-season tires came to a stop from 60 mph in 121 feet, which is a bit better than average for the class"
"...all-wheel-drive 2015 Honda CR-V came to a stop from 60 mph in 119 feet, which is a few feet shorter than average for the class"

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Coupled with this article www.myturbodiesel.com/wiki/brake-faq-mythbusting-why-you-may-not-want-big-brake-upgrade/ I'll leave everything as stock.

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Forester got any poisons for better fuel consumption anot

Throttle controller by blitz
http://www.blitz.co....rocon_plus.html

Basically mimicking drive mode like i, s and s# modes but in a more extreme way. You can either a save more fuel with their eco mode, or burn more with sports mode.

But if you ask me, ill give it a miss unless the car is sluggish.

Throttle controller by blitz
http://www.blitz.co....rocon_plus.html

Basically mimicking drive mode like i, s and s# modes but in a more extreme way. You can either a save more fuel with their eco mode, or burn more with sports mode.

But if you ask me, ill give it a miss unless the car is sluggish.

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More fun:

http://pivotjp.com/p.../tha/tha-e.html

Coupled with this article www.myturbodiesel.com/wiki/brake-faq-mythbusting-why-you-may-not-want-big-brake-upgrade/ I'll leave everything as stock.

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Excellent article there.

Throttle controller by blitz
http://www.blitz.co....rocon_plus.html

Basically mimicking drive mode like i, s and s# modes but in a more extreme way. You can either a save more fuel with their eco mode, or burn more with sports mode.

But if you ask me, ill give it a miss unless the car is sluggish.

I tested FXT�0 to 100km/h sprint, about 7.8s at 37 degree ambient temperature?

close to 7.5s paper statement,

U.S tested 0 to 60mph 7.2s

I tested FXT�0 to 100km/h sprint, about 7.8s at 37 degree ambient temperature?
close to 7.5s paper statement,
U.S tested 0 to 60mph 7.2s

I guess ambient temperature plays a part. Try at night you should get slightly faster timing. The launching matters too.

Anyway let's not get carried with the century sprint, it's after all a 1.7tonner with power to weight ratio of about 142
bhp/tonne.

2.0-liter turbocharged SUBARU BOXER^� 4-cylinder?

Will�boxer engine with turbocharger give you maintenance problems after 3 years, around 55,000KM? Most likely?�

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It's COE outcome day. Hope to get good news at 1100 hrs.

Good luck to all the folks in for the bids today! [;)]

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2.0-liter turbocharged SUBARU BOXER^� 4-cylinder?

Will�boxer engine with turbocharger give you maintenance problems after 3 years, around 55,000KM? Most likely?�

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There's 5 years warranty and maintenance, why worry?

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