mycarforum: 2015 Forester 2.0 part 2

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The positives

1. The egine performance is really nice. The pick up speed and torque is one of the best in the SUV class. Almost effortless when the Forester fully pack with passengers/load while going up slope.

2. Good ventilation which kept Engine temperature low and bonnet cool.

3. Hardly notice any changes when switching gear. The lineartronic CVT live up to it reputation and the chain belt should be more robust than the 3rd generation belt drive gear.

4. Good driver view with wide window screen. Give driver a sense of the road situation.

5. Using Petrol Esso 8000 is even smoother and no lag in slow or fast drive.

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Neutral points

1. Petrol Esso 5000 is nice drive as well but occassionally lag/knock in slow drive (10-20KM/H)

2. Average 9.2 L/100Km in Singapore traffic. Intersting to see yours at 9.5 KM/L (or should it be L/100KM)

3. Suspension is acceptable compare with Europrean car.

4. Every morning the blue temperature guage will light up. This forester need warming up (15 sec), the light goes away, before driving off.

6. The 18" Brigdstone tyre is slightly noise. Next tyre change should try comfort tyre.

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Downside points

1. Driving at > 80KM/h felt a bit of rattling as well, at the rear. Adjusted the boot cover and firmly lock it, the rattling gone for now.

2. Cannot upgrade the 7" audio system with GPS.

3. Side mirrow will not close when the car is lock. Apparently can't tell if the car is lock.

4. The reverse speed is too slow. Need to step on the accelerator.

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Conclusion

This Forester met driver need for safe, smooth drive and as well as race (240 HP, 6.8 sec -> 100 KM/H at sport #). Like driving a WRX sport car! For lady driver, it is easy drive and parking. Forester look big and tough but fun to drive.

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Edited by ctleo, 03 July 2015 - 10:59 PM.

Yes, I am getting 9.5km/l which also means the car's economy reading is showing 10.5L/100km. Some how more used to thinking of it as km/l after all these years.

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I'm happy with just pumping 95 octane, which is the minimum recommended for the FXT. Not sure if higher octane will give more power, some people say it's a waste to pump a higher grade than that.

Ok I took a look at the Forester XT. Summary of my views:

- Huge exterior, masculine look
- quite high for rear passengers to mount up, as high as CX-5. Ford Kuga and Tiguan is lower.
- Spacious interior, bigger than CX-5 definitely.
- Boot size looks the same as Tiguan. Not very big. Ford Kuga still wins in boot space.
- Squarish interior that looks rugged and practical compared to CX5's sleek interior or Kuga's luxurious interior.
- I read people complaining about cheap trims but it's not as bad as I thought.
- Paranomic roof is not as big as competitors, window cover must slide manually instead of electronically controlled.
- metal pedals are very sporty.
- paddler shifters! No stick shift though.
- Full leather seats, not partial unlike some competitors
- comes if a new Harmon Kardon HU with touchscreen function, very nice compared to the older HU in catalogs. But the speakers sounds boxy, perhaps not setup properly as I didn't explore.
- no rear air con vents!

Driving
- normal driving is great! (I came from sports hatch), it's quiet, smooth and not as bumpy as I thought. Definitely baby friendly.
- steering a bit light at slow speed, but gains weight as you speed up for better control.
- handles great for an SUV. Very confident at the corners, awd is one thing, I think the 18" tyres helped in a way.
- switch to sport mode and sport sharp mode. I expected a WRX style acceleration and the feeling of being thrown into the seat but nope, the pull is gradual and not spontaneous enough to throw you to the back of the seat. You still feel the torque pull and the speed climb, and the meter jumps very fast to 120km/h but it's more linear. Maybe it's due to the CVT, perhaps would be better if I switch to manual mode. But keep in mind that it's after all an SUV, not a sports hatch or coupe.
- turning radius is surprising good for a SUV this size.

Other things like maintenance and FC, can't comment based on test drive.

Edited by Pocus, 05 July 2015 - 05:15 PM.

Ok I took a look at the Forester XT. Summary of my views:

- Huge exterior, masculine look
- quite high for rear passengers to mount up, as high as CX-5. Ford Kuga and Tiguan is lower.
- Spacious interior, bigger than CX-5 definitely.
- Boot size looks the same as Tiguan. Not very big. Ford Kuga still wins in boot space.
- Squarish interior that looks rugged and practical compared to CX5's sleek interior or Kuga's luxurious interior.
- I read people complaining about cheap trims but it's not as bad as I thought.
- Paranomic roof is not as big as competitors, window cover must slide manually instead of electronically controlled.
- metal pedals are very sporty.
- paddler shifters! No stick shift though.
- Full leather seats, not partial unlike some competitors
- comes if a new Harmon Kardon HU with touchscreen function, very nice compared to the older HU in catalogs. But the speakers sounds boxy, perhaps not setup properly as I didn't explore.
- no rear air con vents!

Driving
- normal driving is great! (I came from sports hatch), it's quiet, smooth and not as bumpy as I thought. Definitely baby friendly.
- steering a bit light at slow speed, but gains weight as you speed up for better control.
- handles great for an SUV. Very confident at the corners, awd is one thing, I think the 18" tyres helped in a way.
- switch to sport mode and sport sharp mode. I expected a WRX style acceleration and the feeling of being thrown into the seat but nope, the pull is gradual and not spontaneous enough to throw you to the back of the seat. You still feel the torque pull and the speed climb, and the meter jumps very fast to 120km/h but it's more linear. Maybe it's due to the CVT, perhaps would be better if I switch to manual mode. But keep in mind that it's after all an SUV, not a sports hatch or coupe.
- turning radius is surprising good for a SUV this size.

Other things like maintenance and FC, can't comment based on test drive.

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Sharing. It is comes with Harmon Kardon speakers not the HU as HK does not produce HU :-)

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How's the servicing at MI? Heard from other subaru owners do their servicing outside instead.

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The price of the car is reasonable compared to other makes and one of a few MIJ SUV.�

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Power from the car is very addictive... auto-tailgate is also a nice feature!

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Ok I took a look at the Forester XT. Summary of my views:

- Huge exterior, masculine look
- quite high for rear passengers to mount up, as high as CX-5. Ford Kuga and Tiguan is lower.
- Spacious interior, bigger than CX-5 definitely.
- Boot size looks the same as Tiguan. Not very big. Ford Kuga still wins in boot space.
- Squarish interior that looks rugged and practical compared to CX5's sleek interior or Kuga's luxurious interior.
- I read people complaining about cheap trims but it's not as bad as I thought.
- Paranomic roof is not as big as competitors, window cover must slide manually instead of electronically controlled.
- metal pedals are very sporty.
- paddler shifters! No stick shift though.
- Full leather seats, not partial unlike some competitors
- comes if a new Harmon Kardon HU with touchscreen function, very nice compared to the older HU in catalogs. But the speakers sounds boxy, perhaps not setup properly as I didn't explore.
- no rear air con vents!

Driving
- normal driving is great! (I came from sports hatch), it's quiet, smooth and not as bumpy as I thought. Definitely baby friendly.
- steering a bit light at slow speed, but gains weight as you speed up for better control.
- handles great for an SUV. Very confident at the corners, awd is one thing, I think the 18" tyres helped in a way.
- switch to sport mode and sport sharp mode. I expected a WRX style acceleration and the feeling of being thrown into the seat but nope, the pull is gradual and not spontaneous enough to throw you to the back of the seat. You still feel the torque pull and the speed climb, and the meter jumps very fast to 120km/h but it's more linear. Maybe it's due to the CVT, perhaps would be better if I switch to manual mode. But keep in mind that it's after all an SUV, not a sports hatch or coupe.
- turning radius is surprising good for a SUV this size.

Other things like maintenance and FC, can't comment based on test drive.

I tested Forester XT, X3, XC60,�VW�Tiguan, Land Rover Discovery, all 2.0T version,

performance wise only, Forester is outstanding, my personal feeling its pickup is equal or above others

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The latest price for the 2.0XT was around $134k.
Make me relook into this car. I like the performance of this car. No car at similar price and size had the same performance. But the interior design look a bit simple.
As I clock about 30k km a year, so FC is some concern for me. How is the FC for 50/50 driving pattern?
How about the maintenance cost? Never own a Subaru before.
I also heard that insurance is very high for Subaru car. What is the expected insurance with 50% NCD, age above 40yr?
The last obstacle for me may be CO, she don't like this brand.

went to test both Forester i(Premium) and XT version. Premium is $120k & $133K.

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Essentially the main difference is premium version is slightly draggy during pickup, but when up to cruising speed no much difference.

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For the 13k difference, I can live with the slight drag during pickup.

I also heard that insurance is very high for Subaru car. What is the expected insurance with 50% NCD, age above 40yr?

If it's 50% NCD shouldn't be too bad. Maybe around 1.3k or less.

It's the WRXes that are having killer insurance

Edited by Pocus, 12 July 2015 - 07:39 PM.

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slightly above 2k is i remember correctly. Have to buy from AD during the negotiation.

For 2k insurance, what is your NCD %?

Hi, anyone still keen on 2015 Forester? If yes, I may have better deal. Pls pm me if u are interested.

Can PM me..

As I clock about 30k km a year, so FC is some concern for me. How is the FC for 50/50 driving pattern?

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For the FC, the current 2.0 FXT is a big improvement over the previous generation. But it is a 4WD vehicle and weights 1.7 tons afterall, so don't expect it to be a fuel sipper.

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To be fair, need to compare like with like - in this case we should focus on the torque since in Singapore we're not really going to have much chance to rev to the redline. In terms of torque the 2.0 Forester XT has the power of a 3.5L naturally aspirated engine. It produces 350Nm of torque at 2400rpm. If you compare to a Lexus RX350, you get 346Nm of torque at 4700rpm (need to rev it more). For this category of power output the FC of the Forester is pretty good.

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If you only want a fuel sipper, then maybe a Honda Vezel (HRV) is more appropriate. But you get 155Nm at 4800rpm. Totally different class.

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For the FC, the current 2.0 FXT is a big improvement over the previous generation. But it is a 4WD vehicle and weights 1.7 tons afterall, so don't expect it to be a fuel sipper.

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To be fair, need to compare like with like - in this case we should focus on the torque since in Singapore we're not really going to have much chance to rev to the redline. In terms of torque the 2.0 Forester XT has the power of a 3.5L naturally aspirated engine. It produces 350Nm of torque at 2400rpm. If you compare to a Lexus RX350, you get 346Nm of torque at 4700rpm (need to rev it more). For this category of power output the FC of the Forester is pretty good.

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If you only want a fuel sipper, then maybe a Honda Vezel (HRV) is more appropriate. But you get 155Nm at 4800rpm. Totally different class.

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My current 2.0L conti I am getting FC �of 9.5-10.5km/l.

So the FC of 9-10km/l is OK for me.

I am looking into Forester mainly for the performance. Don't seem to find any others car with similar size and performance for the price.�

For 2k insurance, what is your NCD %?

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Just renewed my policy with MI. Base on 30% NCD age 45 �(no driver under 40yo allowed to drive my car.) = SGD1,308.00

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Best to check with your SA at MI once you are about to sign.

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Just renewed my policy with MI. Base on 30% NCD age 45 �(no driver under 40yo allowed to drive my car.) = SGD1,308.00

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Best to check with your SA at MI once you are about to sign.

go DirectAsia, bery cheap about deal at $900+ based on your condition

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My current 2.0L conti I am getting FC �of 9.5-10.5km/l.
So the FC of 9-10km/l is OK for me.
I am looking into Forester mainly for the performance. Don't seem to find any others car with similar size and performance for the price.�

9-10km/l is considered and optimistic number. From what I read the FC can go as low as 8km/l for mostly urban driving. 7km/l if you drive like a racer.

Just have to brace ourself on what to expect.

9-10km/l is considered and optimistic number. From what I read the FC can go as low as 8km/l for mostly urban driving. 7km/l if you drive like a racer.

Just have to brace ourself on what to expect.

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Have you bought one already?�

Read in others thread you also looking at Ford Kuga, so far I have not go and take a look at this car.

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Have you bought one already?�
Read in others thread you also looking at Ford Kuga, so far I have not go and take a look at this car.

Nope, but most probably going for the XT. I ruled out the Kuga already due to price

Edited by Pocus, 13 July 2015 - 02:35 PM.

can't go wrong with a MIJ forester ... pity , space is a little tight for me

One of my favorite video of the XT. I admit after watching this, more determine to get it.

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My current 2.0L conti I am getting FC �of 9.5-10.5km/l.

So the FC of 9-10km/l is OK for me.

I am looking into Forester mainly for the performance. Don't seem to find any others car with similar size and performance for the price.�

if 50/50 driving pattern, sure can 9 to 10 km/l.�

normally I drive 80% unban 8.5km/L,�ever 80% highway clocked 12 to 13km/L,

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My current 2.0L conti I am getting FC �of 9.5-10.5km/l.

So the FC of 9-10km/l is OK for me.

I am looking into Forester mainly for the performance. Don't seem to find any others car with similar size and performance for the price.�

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If you're worried about FC, let's do the maths on how the difference it costs.

To start with, we can assume a typical profile:

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- Drive 20,000Km per year

- FC average of 10km/L

- More efficient car gets 10% better FC

- Petrol is $2/L

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Cost difference is 20,000Km / 10Km/L x 10% �x $2/L = $400 per year.

Even after the 10 year lifespan of the car, this adds up to only $4K.

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Now consider this in total cost of ownership perspective:

A Mazda CX5 2.5L costs $18K more (much less HP and 2WD only)

An Audi Q5 2.0T costs $100K+ more

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It is pretty much impossible to recover the price difference between more/less efficient cars from petrol savings. So just drive whatever you want and enjoy the ride.

pity , space is a little tight for me

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Wow... I find the Forester to be pretty spacious with an airy cabin.

You must be used to driving large luxury cars.

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If you're worried about FC, let's do the maths on how the difference it costs.
To start with, we can assume a typical profile:
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- Drive 20,000Km per year
- FC average of 10km/L
- More efficient car gets 10% better FC
- Petrol is $2/L
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Cost difference is 20,000Km / 10Km/L x 10% �x $2/L = $400 per year.
Even after the 10 year lifespan of the car, this adds up to only $4K.
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Now consider this in total cost of ownership perspective:
A Mazda CX5 2.5L costs $18K more (much less HP and 2WD only)
An Audi Q5 2.0T costs $100K+ more
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It is pretty much impossible to recover the price difference between more/less efficient cars from petrol savings. So just drive whatever you want and enjoy the ride.

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Wow... I find the Forester to be pretty spacious with an airy cabin.
You must be used to driving large luxury cars.

My mileage is about 30k km per year..

if 50/50 driving pattern, sure can 9 to 10 km/l.�

normally I drive 80% unban 8.5km/L,�ever 80% highway clocked 12 to 13km/L,

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The FC of turbo charged cars depend a lot on your driving style. I generally drive sensibly, but occasionally enjoy some boost to overtake / build up speed on the express way.

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When I do short 1-2Km trips to the neighbourhood shops/market I see as low as 5km/L.

But there was once I drove to KL via the Tuas checkpoint.

Cruising at around the legal 110km/h speed limit most of the way..

Including the idling at the checkpoint I got 14km/L (7.1L/100Km).

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Overall, 9-10Km/L average for 50/50 driving pattern is quite normal for most people to achieve with the Forester XT.

My mileage is about 30k km per year..

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With 30,000Km per year for 10 years you're looking at $6K more on petrol per year compared to a more fuel efficient Mazda CX5 "SkyActive"�2.5L... this still only pays for 1/3rd of the price difference between the 2 cars!

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Another thing to note is the Forester XT happily accepts 95 octane petrol. Some turbocharged contis need 98 octane.. the difference in petrol costs can easily neutralise the 10% better FC figures.

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The FC of turbo charged cars depend a lot on your driving style. I generally drive sensibly, but occasionally enjoy some boost to overtake / build up speed on the express way.
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When I do short 1-2Km trips to the neighbourhood shops/market I see as low as 5km/L.
But there was once I drove to KL via the Tuas checkpoint.
Cruising at around the legal 110km/h speed limit most of the way..
Including the idling at the checkpoint I got 14km/L (7.1L/100Km).
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Overall, 9-10Km/L average for 50/50 driving pattern is quite normal for most people to achieve with the Forester XT.

Thank you for the information on your FC.
Now the most difficult part is to get CO agreed on this car. She will use the car occasionally...

Thank you for the information on your FC.
Now the most difficult part is to get CO agreed on this car. She will use the car occasionally...

Haha I am glad I won't have this problem if I buy forester. 2 years ago I was looking at SUVs and I came very close to buying either this or cx 5. Me and my wife test drove both as well as crv. In the end I felt I still prefer sedan and didn't proceed. This year we are thinking again and if we want to buy we'll get a used forester, mainly for my wife to drive.

Edited by Bismarck, 13 July 2015 - 10:43 PM.

go DirectAsia, bery cheap about deal at $900+ based on your condition

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Well noted and thanks. �

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Mine covered under AIG which include Malaysia, Act of God..etc all repair done at Motor Image.�

Seems that after the recent dip in Cat B COE, the old price of the Forester still holds.

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The CEVs has increased by 5k.

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The CEVs has increased by 5k.

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Lastest price is $133,800 for XT. Including CEVS increase of $5k.

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Lastest price is $133,800 for XT. Including CEVS increase of $5k.

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About there. I got my XT at $135k with COE of $71+K before CEVS increase. Now COE is expected to be about $65k? Car price drop $1+k only.

Thank you for the information on your FC.
Now the most difficult part is to get CO agreed on this car. She will use the car occasionally...

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Interestingly, a lot of ladies like to drive SUVs - my wife totally liked it right from the start. Being in a taller vehicle, the view is more commanding, making them feel less vulnerable than in a lower sedan car.

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If you drive up to Malaysia, when stopped at red lights the motorcyles next to you find it harder to look through your window to see if there's a handbag to steal. Being higher, it is harder for them to do a quick smash and grab.

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Interestingly, a lot of ladies like to drive SUVs - my wife totally liked it right from the start. Being in a taller vehicle, the view is more commanding, making them feel less vulnerable than in a lower sedan car.

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If you drive up to Malaysia, when stopped at red lights the motorcyles next to you find it harder to look through your window to see if there's a handbag to steal. Being higher, it is harder for them to do a quick smash and grab.

unfortunately Forester doors don't have atuolock function, if forgot to lock especially in Malaysia, it's dangerous

I'm also keen on the Forester.

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For those who purchased the Forester, what freebies did you managed to get from your SE? It seems like the car comes with solar film, reverse camera etc, what else did you ask for?

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Thanks...

any plans to change to a legal deep growl exhaust ?

I've had an XT overtaking me with barely a warble from its exhaust haha. Hvn't test drive yet, only seen it at roadshows. Am currently driving a Lancer GT with Rockford Fosgate sound system so was wondering if the H/K on the XT is better.

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The DIT engine in the current Forester XT uses equal length headers. This makes the boxer growl very subdued compared to the previous generation. Both inside and outside of the cabin the equal headers make the engine noise more friendly for family / wife use (not to mention your neighbours won't hate you), but takes away the sonic excitement from die hard fans. Some fans even modify the headers back to unequal lengths to get back the sound.

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For the HK speakers, I find me to be pretty good when the car is stationary. But once you get going at higher speeds, there's a fair amount of road noise which makes you need to turn up the volume. You're not going to hear each pin drop in a classical concert hall. Having said that, the sound proofing has come a long way already from the previous generation.

Just went and test drive the XT. I will said I like the car a lot. The engine is very very smooth. CVT is very different from my previous toyota. It do not have the rubbery feeling.
And the latest model come with a touch screen LCD.
Space is big enough for me.
Very tempting now.......

I'm also keen on the Forester.

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For those who purchased the Forester, what freebies did you managed to get from your SE? It seems like the car comes with solar film, reverse camera etc, what else did you ask for?

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Thanks...

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When I bought my Forester it came standard with solar film, BlackVue front and back cameras, floor mats and 5Y servicing. Didn't get any freebies apart from these standard issue, but managed to negotiate to keep the same price even if I don't use their compulsory car loan.

unfortunately Forester doors don't have atuolock function, if forgot to lock especially in Malaysia, it's dangerous

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That is true, the door does not autolock after a while if you park the car and leave it alone. However, the door lock switch position is not visible from the outside (unlike some cars where the lock pops up from the window sill). An outsider will only know it is unlocked if he uses the door handle to try opening the door.

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This is one of the points why I mentioned in my first post that there is some lack of attention to detail. Apart from the door lock, I find the sunglasses compartment (next to the rear view mirror) is too small to store my "fit-overs". Wing mirrors also do not auto tilt down when you reverse (my Honda Accord did that), and rear window wiper doesn't auto-activate when it is raining (my A class does it).

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It is small ergonomic things like this that make the overall package feel lacking in luxury. But these are actually all things that you can easily get around yourself.

any plans to change to a legal deep growl exhaust ?

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How moddable is the Forester XT. I got the impression this version (SJ) doesn't come with many 3P parts and stuff.

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Apart from Exhaust, any 3P suspension system to raise and widen�the vehicle's wheelbase�for better off-roading? Where to you guys get Forester stuff online?

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I like the STI front lip and if I really getting the car might get it too, got chiong ones online?

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The look of the stock�rims is a love or hate thing. For me it's more hate and love, I'd change to something more conventional or paint it matt black to look more rugged.

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Also, I got questions for XT owners:

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How many litres is a full tank?

Usually how many KM you travel before the tank empty light comes on.

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Is the front seat able to detect a child or child seat and disable passenger airbag?

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thanks

Edited by Pocus, 14 July 2015 - 11:48 PM.

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How moddable is the Forester XT. I got the impression this version (SJ) doesn't come with many 3P parts and stuff.

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Apart from Exhaust, any 3P suspension system to raise and widen�the vehicle's wheelbase�for better off-roading? Where to you guys get Forester stuff online?

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I like the STI front lip and if I really getting the car might get it too, got chiong ones online?

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The look of the stock�rims is a love or hate thing. For me it's more hate and love, I'd change to something more conventional or paint it matt black to look more rugged.

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Also, I got questions for XT owners:

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How many litres is a full tank?

Usually how many KM you travel before the tank empty light comes on.

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Is the front seat able to detect a child or child seat and disable passenger airbag?

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To add on some more question to existing owner.

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3) What is your service interval? 10k km?

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When I bought my Forester it came standard with solar film, BlackVue front and back cameras, floor mats and 5Y servicing. Didn't get any freebies apart from these standard issue, but managed to negotiate to keep the same price even if I don't use their compulsory car loan.

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Thanks for your input. I didn't know Blackvue front and back cameras are included. I know there is reverse camera but I didn't know about the front.

some poisons

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/For-2013-2015-Subaru-Forester-Headlight-with-Angel-Eye-and-Bi-xenon-Projector-/161749417291?hash=item25a9043d4b&vxp=mtr#ht_4724wt_1153

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How moddable is the Forester XT. I got the impression this version (SJ) doesn't come with many 3P parts and stuff.

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There are a fair number of STI parts available for modding. I also see 3rd party sway bars, power braces and some ECU upgrades available on the internet. I've also seen some people install DLRs on the bumper - not sure if Singapore legal.

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I don't touch the mods yet though, as they will void the 5Y warranty from Motorimage. Maybe when the car is older can start to take the risk...

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1) Petrol I can run 500-600km in Singapore conditions before filling up. The low fuel light comes on when there is only 1 bar level on the indicator (full bars is 12).

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2) Not sure about the baby seat, I only have a furry kid and he loves riding in the boot.

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3) Service interval is 1K, 5K, 10K, 20K, 30K.... So once run in the interval is either 10K or 6 months. Seems quite normal and Motorimage gave a 5Y free servicing package. Every time I go they try to sell me rust proofing - I just say no.

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Thanks for your input. I didn't know Blackvue front and back cameras are included. I know there is reverse camera but I didn't know about the front.

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Maybe depends on the offer. When I bought in January it came with front/back BlackVue. There's also the reverse camera, so you have 3 cameras in total. Later on at the first servicing I got them to install the PowerMagic box so that the BlackVue can record even when the car is off (does not come with the package).

Here are the STI parts:

http://www.sti.jp/PA...r_sj/index.html

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There are a fair number of STI parts available for modding. I also see 3rd party sway bars, power braces and some ECU upgrades available on the internet. I've also seen some people install DLRs on the bumper - not sure if Singapore legal.
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I don't touch the mods yet though, as they will void the 5Y warranty from Motorimage. Maybe when the car is older can start to take the risk...
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1) Petrol I can run 500-600km in Singapore conditions before filling up. The low fuel light comes on when there is only 1 bar level on the indicator (full bars is 12).
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2) Not sure about the baby seat, I only have a furry kid and he loves riding in the boot.
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3) Service interval is 1K, 5K, 10K, 20K, 30K.... So once run in the interval is either 10K or 6 months. Seems quite normal and Motorimage gave a 5Y free servicing package. Every time I go they try to sell me rust proofing - I just say no.

Thanks for the info, sorry but for (1) how much is 1 full tank? 50l or 60l?

TIS.

The STI website is poison, but luckily not a lot of parts. I can imagine some parts I want to get in the long run...

Edited by Pocus, 15 July 2015 - 08:10 PM.

Thanks for the info, sorry but for (1) how much is 1 full tank? 50l or 60l

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60 L bro

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60 L bro

Thks bro, I was under the impression 60l is the total capacity including spare.

for this new forester XT , any owner did load her with ,more than 5 adults ? hows the feel when driving it �? does it feel wobbly ?

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asking this because , used to drive a 2010 tucson , and loaded with 5 adults + a kid , man ..the ride is so wobbly�

Yeah, the fuel tank is 60L - I checked the manual to confirm. When the low fuel light goes on, there is around 10L remaining left.

for this new forester XT , any owner did load her with ,more than 5 adults ? hows the feel when driving it �? does it feel wobbly ?

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asking this because , used to drive a 2010 tucson , and loaded with 5 adults + a kid , man ..the ride is so wobbly�

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Not sure what you mean by wobbly. I find the suspension to be rather bouncy when driving with just 1-2 people in the car. It gets better as more people / luggage are loaded up the vehicle. If during the test drive you're already happy, when you load 5 adults you'll like it even more.
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Had upgraded to XT as family car for 6 months now. Like the performance dearly. Fuel consumption for a performance car is usually not very fantastic. Just like an F1 car right? They get mostly 3-4km/l on their "V-Power".

City driving averages 11L/100km 50/50. Took it across the causeway up north to Ipoh recently, average consumption worked to be 9L/100km(car computer) at "high" speed. 110-170kph occasionally to clear valves. (Haven't checked my fuel used receipt vs km travelled)

Car is extremely stable at highway speed(170) at about 55%throttle position! Room for higher velocity but at expense of fuel consumption. That is what performance car is all about anyway. Fuel grade used 95 octane, as per the refuel panel placard. Is says use 95. Doesn't say use 95 or higher. So i believe it is a recommended grade.

Drivability is decent with good all round view. Only gripe is reversing near a curb, just give some room to your wheel as we cannot see the much below the rear wheel area. Sunroof is of good size, too big will be too hot in our climate.

Cabin spaciousness quite good for a 6-footer, family members are average sized, car seem big for them, to climb onto. Quality of interior material could be better but no big issue.

Tried a XC60. Only suv with similar specs or performance. Price is $60k more! Could jolly spend this amount on my holidays for next 5 years with change! So no brainer.

Acceleration is smooth with the current CVT in Sports I. sports # mode would definitely gives more spirited drive, with slightly gear shift feel.

Overall very nice drrive!

Thanks for the reviews and feedback on the car� [:)]

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The current price makes the XT attractive but with the recent announcement about more COEs in the next quarter, the price may drop a little more... fingers crossed...

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Cheers�

Thanks for the reviews and feedback on the car�

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The current price makes the XT attractive but with the recent announcement about more COEs in the next quarter, the price may drop a little more... fingers crossed...

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Cheers�

but all�potential buyers�all�have the same thinking, then COE... :a-no:

you thought only you smart

Edited by MQX87511, 16 July 2015 - 10:35 AM.

Had upgraded to XT as family car for 6 months now. Like the performance dearly. Fuel consumption for a performance car is usually not very fantastic. Just like an F1 car right? They get mostly 3-4km/l on their "V-Power".

City driving averages 11L/100km 50/50. Took it across the causeway up north to Ipoh recently, average consumption worked to be 9L/100km(car computer) at "high" speed. 110-170kph occasionally to clear valves. (Haven't checked my fuel used receipt vs km travelled)

Car is extremely stable at highway speed(170) at about 55%throttle position! Room for higher velocity but at expense of fuel consumption. That is what performance car is all about anyway. Fuel grade used 95 octane, as per the refuel panel placard. Is says use 95. Doesn't say use 95 or higher. So i believe it is a recommended grade.

Drivability is decent with good all round view. Only gripe is reversing near a curb, just give some room to your wheel as we cannot see the much below the rear wheel area. Sunroof is of good size, too big will be too hot in our climate.

Cabin spaciousness quite good for a 6-footer, family members are average sized, car seem big for them, to climb onto. Quality of interior material could be better but no big issue.

Tried a XC60. Only suv with similar specs or performance. Price is $60k more! Could jolly spend this amount on my holidays for next 5 years with change! So no brainer.

Acceleration is smooth with the current CVT in Sports I. sports # mode would definitely gives more spirited drive, with slightly gear shift feel.

Overall very nice drrive!

good deal, spent Jap/Kor SUV's price (even Lower), bought Conti SUV's performance and quality [thumbsup]

but one disadvantage, noticed XT OMV very low, only 17k+, even lower than Vezel, Qashiqa, why?

but all�potential buyers�all�have the same thinking, then COE...

Also do consider if you have existing ride and planning to trade in.

lower COE will drive up new car demand and lower used car demand. Used car value will be affected too. How much I dunno. But may end up not much difference.

Lower COE will benefit new car buyers without anything to trade in.

Edited by Pocus, 16 July 2015 - 10:36 AM.

ot a bit...wish that MI will bring in Outback with 2.0 turbo charged version

Thanks for the reviews and feedback on the car�

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The current price makes the XT attractive but with the recent announcement about more COEs in the next quarter, the price may drop a little more... fingers crossed...

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Cheers�

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I also just test drive and like the car a lot.

Normally I don't like CVT. But this car CVT felt very different from others CVT I drove before� :a-m1212:

Now waiting on the side line, hoping COE can go down further... ...1 more yr left for my current car.

Edited by Tohto, 16 July 2015 - 11:45 AM.

For those who owns this car, I'm curious if you find the road noise a little loud?

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When I test drive end last year, I didn't notice it much... But I guess its because the SE was talking to me and I got distracted :(

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I read the road noise can be bad and the speakers aren't great (although its HK). Any feedback on this?

i find it quiet. maybe because its not using performance tires. On my previous Toyota Mark x, which i am always using Michelin, PS3 or PSS. i find it a big difference.

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The sound systems they have in the forester seems to be acceptable, they do have a amp under the passenger seat, this is for the XT model

For those who owns this car, I'm curious if you find the road noise a little loud?

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When I test drive end last year, I didn't notice it much... But I guess its because the SE was talking to me and I got distracted :(

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I read the road noise can be bad and the speakers aren't great (although its HK). Any feedback on this?

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Road noise a lot of time depends on the tyre used, if scare of noisy, can change to a more quiet tyre after the 1st set wear out.

Or trade in immediately after collection of car.

Edited by Tohto, 16 July 2015 - 01:50 PM.

For those who owns this car, I'm curious if you find the road noise a little loud?

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When I test drive end last year, I didn't notice it much... But I guess its because the SE was talking to me and I got distracted :(

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I read the road noise can be bad and the speakers aren't great (although its HK). Any feedback on this?

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Depends on what is your reference standard. Road noise compared to a Honda Jazz the Forester is more quiet.. compared to a Honda Accord it is more noisy. I didn't test drive CX5/CRV etc for long enough to be able to remember how they compared.

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Also, during warm up from a cold engine in the morning the engine idle is noisy. Probably because the RPM is around 1,500 during warm up. This is higher than my other cars that warm up around 1,200 rpm only. Once it is warmed up and the rpm drops to normal and the idling is quiet.�

Edited by db597, 16 July 2015 - 01:46 PM.

For those who owns this car, I'm curious if you find the road noise a little loud?

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When I test drive end last year, I didn't notice it much... But I guess its because the SE was talking to me and I got distracted :(

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I read the road noise can be bad and the speakers aren't great (although its HK). Any feedback on this?

depends on what car are you compare to, if you previously driving BMW, definitely feel Forester road noise loud, if previous car is Jap/Kor B&B cars, Forester will be quite,

Edited by MQX87511, 16 July 2015 - 02:08 PM.

Yeah... I guess road noise is relative and dependent on which car I'm coming from...

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Thanks

Yeah... I guess road noise is relative and dependent on which car I'm coming from...
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Coming from a colt turbo on AD08s, it's like heaven. Lol

I just checked the JDM spec of the Forester XT and notice some difference:

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- JDM's engine spec is 280PS and 350nm, looks like export version is de-tuned, most probably to cater for lower fuel RON grade of other countries.

- Memory seats adjustments

- Collision Mitigation

- Engine stop at braking. Helps in Economy.

- CF pattern trims

- masked headlights for a fiercer look

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Why don't the export version have these goodies? [:(]

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When I bought my Forester it came standard with solar film, BlackVue front and back cameras, floor mats and 5Y servicing. Didn't get any freebies apart from these standard issue, but managed to negotiate to keep the same price even if I don't use their compulsory car loan.

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Just booked the Forester 2.0X.

No freebies and no Blackvue camera.

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Did you break in your Subaru ? Or just drive normally for the 1st �1kkm?

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Just booked the Forester 2.0X.

No freebies and no Blackvue camera.

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Did you break in your Subaru ? Or just drive normally for the 1st �1kkm?

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2.0XT? Did you get it at 133k?

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2.0XT? Did you get it at 133k?

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Sorry , there is a typo.

I booked the 2.0i version.

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I got it only at a very slight disc below the listed price of 120.8k

Did u get it for $118k with no other freebies ??
I am waiting for SG50 sales and hope the coming bidding will see lower COE :)

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Sorry , there is a typo.
I booked the 2.0i version.
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I got it only at a very slight disc below the listed price of 120.8k

How is the over trade for old car?

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Just booked the Forester 2.0X.

No freebies and no Blackvue camera.

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Did you break in your Subaru ? Or just drive normally for the 1st �1kkm?

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usually they will tell you to drive gently until the first service.�

Did u get it for $118k with no other freebies ??
I am waiting for SG50 sales and hope the coming bidding will see lower COE :)
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Yes, me waiting too.... the fear is to book liao then see price drop another 5 to 10k.... will feel like carrot haha.

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I think this is human greed at work.

Was told that the Forester 2.0 Premium selling so well at $120K that wef from 20 July, there will be a 3K increase to $123K. Don't know zhun or not....

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those guys had already migrated to the FB side...a lot of new to present foresters there......

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can check it out..

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Do you have the name of the FB page? Heard there is a "secret" Forester group...... [:p] can't find any trace. Would like to join as I'm a current Forester owner and looking to get the 2015 version soon. Any chances of sharing the link to the "secret" group? Thanks
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Was told that the Forester 2.0 Premium selling so well at $120K that wef from 20 July, there will be a 3K increase to $123K. Don't know zhun or not....

Yes...that is what the SE told me this morning.

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Further more...once this batch sold out, the next batch will be quite some time away...

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The longer you have to wait, the �higher chance that COE will sky rocket.

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So dont wait any longer, quickly go and book one now...

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Yes, me waiting too.... the fear is to book liao then see price drop another 5 to 10k.... will feel like carrot haha.

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I think this is human greed at work.

LOL, you are not alone.

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After much thought, i decided to sign on the dotted line since I am not sure how strong is the pent up demand of people waiting to get a new car.

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Alot of people are monitoring the COE price now.......

Did u get it for $118k with no other freebies ??
I am waiting for SG50 sales and hope the coming bidding will see lower COE :)
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yup, there are no freebies given to me.

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If lower COE means i will get the Car this coming round, provided AD dont under bid.

How is the over trade for old car?

The over trade for my old car is reasonable...

Of course, we need to let dealer earn to cover cost of sprucing up the old car for putting on the market and risk of holding stock.

Yes...that is what the SE told me this morning.

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Further more...once this batch sold out, the next batch will be quite some time away...

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The longer you have to wait, the �higher chance that COE will sky rocket.

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So dont wait any longer, quickly go and book one now...

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Aiyo...They told me month ago that price is increasing.� But it really depends on market responses.

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Nobody will know how the COE price movement.� However, logically speaking, it should come down if we can wait.

$118k for Forester 2.0i premium is definitely an attractive price.�

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But I find it too tall and don't feel stable and confident around corners despite the double wishbone suspension.�

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Tested Qashqai and it has a more planted feel.�

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The large sunroof is a plus point though, gives you the open feel.�

Yes...that is what the SE told me this morning.

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Further more...once this batch sold out, the next batch will be quite some time away...

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The longer you have to wait, the �higher chance that COE will sky rocket.

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So dont wait any longer, quickly go and book one now...

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Was told another shipment on its way but didn't ask when arriving. I'm not in a hurry to get car so can afford to wait a while more. Current ride already paid up so every month I delay, I save $1K+ on installment;� provided price of new car doesn't shoot up too much. Its a gamble I'm prepared to take.
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Was told another shipment on its way but didn't ask when arriving. I'm not in a hurry to get car so can afford to wait a while more. Current ride already paid up so every month I delay, I save $1K+ on installment;� provided price of new car doesn't shoot up too much. Its a gamble I'm prepared to take.
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Now comparing the Forester XT with Toyota Harrier...really not sure which one to get. By the way, how is the stock audio quality for XT? Not sure can change it to pioneer with DVD

Now comparing the Forester XT with Toyota Harrier...really not sure which one to get. By the way, how is the stock audio quality for XT? Not sure can change it to pioneer with DVD

actually it's very easy to decide between this 2 models, totally different segment, �one is performance and off road�orientation another is comfort�and Fuel economy�orientation, subject to which one you want,

Now comparing the Forester XT with Toyota Harrier...really not sure which one to get. By the way, how is the stock audio quality for XT? Not sure can change it to pioneer with DVD

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PI vs AD. No brainer.

one for the beng and the other for the seng.

Now comparing the Forester XT with Toyota Harrier...really not sure which one to get. By the way, how is the stock audio quality for XT? Not sure can change it to pioneer with DVD

Not only is the Harrier more expensive by at least 10k, it's less powerful, it has less options like the lack of sunroof and auto-tailgate, cruise control, auto-conveniences. Plus the dash screen software are all in Japanese so you have guess some of the options. It's main grip is PIs so you have to shop carefully.

The main attraction about the Harrier over the XT is probably the frugal engine, rear AC vents and more luxurious looking interior.

So you got there, it's your choice.

Edited by Pocus, 20 July 2015 - 10:29 AM.

one for the beng and the other for the seng.

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I don't agreed the XT is for the beng.�

The engine is quiet and no loud exhaust (unless you modify it, which I will not if I got one)

I test drive it and love it very much. Very powerful engine and smooth pick up. The CVT GB just don't felt like all others CVT I had driven before (I am always anti CVT, but not this car)

Of course, the Harrier interior look/feel more luxury and better FC. But for me, the performance of the XT will easily over shine the Harrier. You need car like BMW X3 or Audi Q5 to have same performance as the XT but they are at least $100k more ex.

Edited by Tohto, 20 July 2015 - 10:49 AM.

Now comparing the Forester XT with Toyota Harrier...really not sure which one to get. By the way, how is the stock audio quality for XT? Not sure can change it to pioneer with DVD

surprised you are dilemma between this 2 models

XT: �powerful engine��+ off road +ADW +�Handling +high FC + Simple interior

Harrier: Dull Engine + FWD + Low FC + luxury interior + comfortable,

you want XC60, X3, Land Rover's�performance, handling but pocket not deep enough,�then go �XT,

you want comfortable driving, enjoy luxury interior,� go Harrier

If you want both go for XC60 or X3 or Land Rover,� ��

Not only is the Harrier more expensive by at least 10k, it's less powerful, it has less options like the lack of sunroof and auto-tailgate, cruise control, auto-conveniences. Plus the dash screen software are all in Japanese so you have guess some of the options. It's main grip is PIs so you have to shop carefully.

The main attraction about the Harrier over the XT is probably the frugal engine, rear AC vents and more luxurious looking interior.

So you got there, it's your choice.

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Just to add on, the latest XT already come with full �LCD touch screen, so is different from what you will see from their website.

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Just to add on, the latest XT already come with full �LCD touch screen, so is different from what you will see from their website.

aiya, IM still�hasn't updated their website, misleading a lot of potential buyers heading to other brands :a-no: ��

aiya, IM still�hasn't updated their website, misleading a lot of potential buyers heading to other brands ��

Yah loh.

For those wondering, this is the best pic of the new touchscreen HU I can find on the internet.

Edited by Pocus, 20 July 2015 - 11:57 AM.

Tonight back home I will take a photo from the catalog and post.

Now comparing the Forester XT with Toyota Harrier...really not sure which one to get. By the way, how is the stock audio quality for XT? Not sure can change it to pioneer with DVD

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Given one has a turbo, from a performance point of view the FXT and the Harrier are not in the same category:

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Power: 240hp vs 149hp (Forester is +61% more)

Torque: 350Nm vs 193Nm (Forester is +81% more)

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From a performance point of view, it's more like a NX200t than a Harrier. However, that is a totally difference price point - even the Harrier is already more expensive.

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I like the interior of the Harrier, more stylish and layout whereas the FXT feels functional / nothing special. But driving experience goes to the FXT - not just the acceleration but also around the bends when exiting the AYE/PIE at high speed you really feel it stick to the road. Also, the AWD makes the FXT a genuine offroader, whereas the FWD Harrier is just for "SUV looks". For 99% of Singaporeans that won't matter though...

I just checked the JDM spec of the Forester XT and notice some difference:

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- JDM's engine spec is 280PS and 350nm, looks like export version is de-tuned, most probably to cater for lower fuel RON grade of other countries.

- Memory seats adjustments

- Collision Mitigation

- Engine stop at braking. Helps in Economy.

- CF pattern trims

- masked headlights for a fiercer look

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Why don't the export version have these goodies?

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The JDM spec requires "Hai Oku gasoline" - in Japan meaning 98-100 octane, and I believe the quality in terms of impurities is also better. The US version gets 250hp and still requires premium fuel (98 octane).

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Our local version (Singapore/Malaysia/Philippines/Australia all the same) runs on 95 Octane for 240hp. For Singaporeans this makes sense in case we travel up to Malaysia/Thailand where some places may have no 98 octane. Also given the cheaper price I don't mind the trade off.

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In Japan the collision mitigation is an option. In fact, they sell the base car very cheap with no features, then you add everything as an option (even radio need to add, leather seats need to add, pearl white paint need to pay more etc). So there is no standard JDM version that has all the items you mention.

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The JDM XT doesn't have engine auto start/stop either. Only the non-turbo can have such a feature. I have tried cars with engine auto start/stop and to me it is annoying actually.

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The JDM XT doesn't have engine auto start/stop either. Only the non-turbo can have such a feature. I have tried cars with engine auto start/stop and to me it is annoying actually.

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That's not true actually. Plenty of cars that are turbocharged have this feature.

I wonder how come XT OMV so low? It's less than 20k normally..

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This version will be swee

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http://www.autoblog..../#slide-3418653

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Edited by Rayoflight, 20 July 2015 - 06:44 PM.

Here is the photo shot from the latest catalog.
The latest car will have this LCD.

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Heart goes to Harrier but PI on the harrier is really a turn off. Some more quite new model, spare part will be issue in Singapore.

Heart goes to Harrier but PI on the harrier is really a turn off. Some more quite new model, spare part will be issue in Singapore.

Spare are never a problem for popular models. Wish was a pi for the longest time from 2004 till 2008/9 when Borneo brought it in. Spares were plentiful. Ask all the workshops if you do not believe.

I wonder how come XT OMV so low? It's less than 20k normally..
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This version will be swee
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http://www.autoblog..../#slide-3418653
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This Forester ts is exclusive to Japan. But if you are talking about the looks, it's not difficult to get these parts, in fact most of the stuff is sold here by motorimage.

From THE black grille and front lips to the rims.

Can we fix our own HU into Forester? Got a spare pioneer 8750 left from previous car

Now comparing the Forester XT with Toyota Harrier...really not sure which one to get. By the way, how is the stock audio quality for XT? Not sure can change it to pioneer with DVD

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I'm in similar position with you i.e. comparing Harrier vs Forester. But I'm looking at the Premium model so the price difference is substantial. $120K vs average of $147 for a Harrier Elegance with Panoramic Roof.

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I had been eyeing the Harrier as from pictures, the interior looks really lush. But after sitting in the car two times with different PI, somehow I didn't feel it was what I am looking for and didn't like the red "leather" trim all round the dash and car door. Doubt it may be easy to maintain after a few years.

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When I sat in the Forester Premium, whilst it was more basic, it had everything I need and I love the sunroof as it really made the whole interior brighter and more spacious. The steering wheel with all the fancy buttons is also a selling point as I'm looking for something like this.

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I have no qualms about the rest of Forester drive etc as my current ride is a 2006 Forester NA so I am totally convinced about reliability, drivability, safety etc, Seating in the new 2015 Forester, its like a totally different car altogether.

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I was looking at changing brands after 9 years and have viewed Mazda, Harrier, Volvo.� But having sat inside all the cars, somehow I felt Forester is the one I feel most comfortable with . The savings comparing to the other cars are also significant and I rather keep the money for family holidays etc.

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All that said, I have not made my booking yet but will likely do so soon as I expect the COE to soften in next couple of months.
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Just booked a Forester 2.0i for 117.8k 6 bids non guarantee. No freebies except a floor mat... Wondering how bad is the servicing at MI? If its so bad rather go to my usual workshop outside. Also hope COE will drop a bit on Wed, else maybe gotta wait, suspect AD will play a bit on coe

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I'm in similar position with you i.e. comparing Harrier vs Forester. But I'm looking at the Premium model so the price difference is substantial. $120K vs average of $147 for a Harrier Elegance with Panoramic Roof.
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I had been eyeing the Harrier as from pictures, the interior looks really lush. But after sitting in the car two times with different PI, somehow I didn't feel it was what I am looking for and didn't like the red "leather" trim all round the dash and car door. Doubt it may be easy to maintain after a few years.
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When I sat in the Forester Premium, whilst it was more basic, it had everything I need and I love the sunroof as it really made the whole interior brighter and more spacious. The steering wheel with all the fancy buttons is also a selling point as I'm looking for something like this.
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I have no qualms about the rest of Forester drive etc as my current ride is a 2006 Forester NA so I am totally convinced about reliability, drivability, safety etc, Seating in the new 2015 Forester, its like a totally different car altogether.
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I was looking at changing brands after 9 years and have viewed Mazda, Harrier, Volvo.� But having sat inside all the cars, somehow I felt Forester is the one I feel most comfortable with . The savings comparing to the other cars are also significant and I rather keep the money for family holidays etc.
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All that said, I have not made my booking yet but will likely do so soon as I expect the COE to soften in next couple of months.
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My car is due in April 2017. Still can wait a little while. Mostly drive short distance from home to school by my wife. But once a while drive to north all the way to Ipoh. It will be a fun ride on the XT compared with sedan if I am in Malaysia. One of my colleague is also eyeing this forester. Maybe we can all buy together ...ha ha ha

Can we fix our own HU into Forester? Got a spare pioneer 8750 left from previous car

Why you want to do it when the latest LCD HU was very good. It integrated nicely into the dash.
Had all the hand free call, voice command for the radio...etc...
Set up of the vehicle information system also through here...

Just booked a Forester 2.0i for 117.8k 6 bids non guarantee. No freebies except a floor mat... Wondering how bad is the servicing at MI? If its so bad rather go to my usual workshop outside. Also hope COE will drop a bit on Wed, else maybe gotta wait, suspect AD will play a bit on coe

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Congratulations and seems like you got a good deal. Maybe not this month but with softening COE prices I would be pretty confident you end up with your new ride soon :-)

Just booked a Forester 2.0i for 117.8k 6 bids non guarantee. No freebies except a floor mat... Wondering how bad is the servicing at MI? If its so bad rather go to my usual workshop outside. Also hope COE will drop a bit on Wed, else maybe gotta wait, suspect AD will play a bit on coe

�Glad to see several like minded bros booking this car.

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what do you mean AD will play a bit on COE?�

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I am also hoping to get the COE this Wed.

Why you want to do it when the latest LCD HU was very good. It integrated nicely into the dash.
Had all the hand free call, voice command for the radio...etc...
Set up of the vehicle information system also through here...

Kid needs to watch movie.

Kid needs to watch movie.

Legally and safety reason the LCD on the dash should not be playing movie when are is on the move.

Why you want to do it when the latest LCD HU was very good. It integrated nicely into the dash.
Had all the hand free call, voice command for the radio...etc...
Set up of the vehicle information system also through here...

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Looks nice but pity no Navigation. Not sure how to add as MI say if any work done outside, warranty may be voided. But don't think they offer GPS either so may still need to get those stand alone units and place on dashboard......
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Looks nice but pity no Navigation. Not sure how to add as MI say if any work done outside, warranty may be voided. But don't think they offer GPS either so may still need to get those stand alone units and place on dashboard......
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Google maps on HP work so well, just mount the phone on a bracket If GPS is really a must.

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Congratulations and seems like you got a good deal. Maybe not this month but with softening COE prices I would be pretty confident you end up with your new ride soon :-)

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I mean they will put ours order in their order book and wait �to see if COE drops. and to give you a lower COE.

Spare are never a problem for popular models. Wish was a pi for the longest time from 2004 till 2008/9 when Borneo brought it in. Spares were plentiful. Ask all the workshops if you do not believe.

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Quite true, if buy PI make you get a popular car (eg. Vezel, harrier also quite) where there are demand for spares.

But it's the initial part where you have to be careful, the PIs.

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Also try to find out their car recall policies. I know some larger and more reputable PIs used to honor recalls and parts replacements but at the cost of the premium of the car. Some sell cheap cheap and then close shop. If car kena recall in Japan, you are on your own.

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Small recall no problem can ignore, but big recall on critical parts like engine firmware, braking system or electronic or gearbox system, will be a headache.

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So shop wisely...

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Looks nice but pity no Navigation. Not sure how to add as MI say if any work done outside, warranty may be voided. But don't think they offer GPS either so may still need to get those stand alone units and place on dashboard......
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Who needs GPS in Singapore? lol

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But I believe if you want to change HU, sure can but you will forego some of the features like steering controls and Bluetooth call system. I believe the 3rd party HU bracket can be bought online from Japan or OEM.

Edited by Pocus, 20 July 2015 - 11:38 PM.

More Forester XT picture, for those who like to tune up their cars a little.

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*note: some modification may not be legal in SG.

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Edited by Pocus, 20 July 2015 - 11:53 PM.

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Who needs GPS in Singapore? lol

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I do :-). Especially in all the new housing estates. They all look alike ! I also do head up to JB / KL every few months so GPS is very helpful
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Forester XT doesn't have HID/xenon headlamps?

Forester XT doesn't have HID/xenon headlamps?

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Forester XT does comes with HID headlamps.

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Just that it's not the projector type.

It's very funny since they got LED DRL. It's like old-tech and new-tech combined.

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Note: The 4 leds on each side of the bumpers are add-ons, not standard. The headlamps we getting do not had the black�shades inside, it's all chrome.

Edited by Pocus, 21 July 2015 - 12:19 AM.

Looks so much better with roof rails!

Just curious of anyone(especially owners) knows the current 2.0 XT has any issues? Seems lots of seller of less than 1.5 years Forester 2.0XT. There is know engine stalling and failing to start issues in US. My Sister who reside in US owns it and has encounter this issue 3x in 15 mths,

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Just no good reason why are there so many seller of this relatively new SUV, at least 6~8 sales of this current model in Sgcarmart in less than a year? Or is the "problematic service" of motor image resulting new owner selling away the car? Being ex WRX owner, I can understands that!!!!!

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Any insight appreciated - drop me a PM is convenient�to disclose in the open.

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Thanks

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